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Regarding GIFs, would you like to have them 'autoplay' or 'click to play'?

My internet connection is freaking awesome. I want all GIFs to autoplay by default.
1 (5.9%)
I'm aware that there are folks with poor connection. So i think only big files should be click to play.
11 (64.7%)
My internet connection sucks big time. Please make all GIFs click to play.
5 (29.4%)

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GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« on: July 08, 2019, 08:49:25 PM »
Do you think even very small (~1mb) files should be click to play?

No one ever answered so i ask here. :)
« Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 09:08:13 PM by b_lumenkraft »

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 09:48:45 PM »
It's unanimous, so far.  :)
At home I sometimes run into slow downloads on certain threads, so I appreciate the click-to-run feature for large GIFs, etc.
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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 09:52:56 PM »
Unanimous equals good! :)

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2019, 09:58:04 PM »
please define 'big'

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2019, 10:41:28 PM »
Having to do a click  to see a gif?
What a shocking waste of my valuable time.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2019, 11:07:32 PM »
My internet connection is freaking awesome. I'm also aware that there are folks with a poor connection. I also find autoplay anything to be annoying. Please make all GIFs click to play.

That's my vote + explanation.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2019, 11:15:13 PM »
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I'm aware that there are folks with poor connection. So i think only big files should be click to play.

while this is also true, the reasons may differ. my main reason is that i hate ANYTHING to start playing/moving before i'm ready or willing to start watching.

autoplay is something that even on main browser level can in one or another way be prohibited.

i like gifs that start on click with either a click to start mention below or in picture, depending on feasibility and ease of production.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2019, 11:40:27 PM »
It may be all click-to-animate, but please differentiate static images from animated ones somehow, maybe thick red border visible till you click on the image to animate, please?

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2019, 12:30:31 AM »
As Haphazard says .. click to play . Maybe it's an age thing .. and eyesight .. but I hate the autoplaying world we are increasingly exposed to . I delight in what folk bring video wise but I really would like control .. even when it's only a couple of frames jumping over and back .. but at a speed I can't choose . b.c.
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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2019, 12:38:32 AM »
lol .. sorry b-l .. completely forgot your question this morning .. I was devouring the day , not broadcasting .. .. so anyway .. as above .. yes .. I would prefer everything click n play .. even your little page~flicker ones .. but then only 'cause I would like some control as consumer .. b.c.
2007 + 5 = 2012 + 4 = 2016 + 3 = 2019 ...

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2019, 07:35:22 AM »
I voted the last one not because my internet sucks but while some animations are awesome many don't hold any interest. Besides what is the problem is it that hard to click a mouse to see something.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2019, 07:38:50 AM »
please define 'big'

small     = < 1 mb
medium    = 1-3 mb
big       = > 3 mb

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2019, 07:42:26 AM »
My internet connection is freaking awesome. I'm also aware that there are folks with a poor connection. I also find autoplay anything to be annoying. Please make all GIFs click to play.

That's my vote + explanation.

Thanks so much for your opinion! :)

The problem with this approach is, if you resize a small GIF so it wouldn't autoplay, you also make the file size bigger.

PS: Apparently you are not alone finding autoplay annoying. :)
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 08:04:00 AM by b_lumenkraft »

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2019, 07:49:42 AM »
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I'm aware that there are folks with poor connection. So i think only big files should be click to play.

while this is also true, the reasons may differ. my main reason is that i hate ANYTHING to start playing/moving before i'm ready or willing to start watching.

autoplay is something that even on main browser level can in one or another way be prohibited.

i like gifs that start on click with either a click to start mention below or in picture, depending on feasibility and ease of production.

Honestly, i never considered autoplay to be simply annoying. Now that i think of it it makes sense.

That's great feedback, Mag. Thanks.

b_lumenkraft

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2019, 07:50:51 AM »
It may be all click-to-animate, but please differentiate static images from animated ones somehow, maybe thick red border visible till you click on the image to animate, please?

This is a thing i don't control.

But when there is a click to play GIF i would always add the disclaimer '(Click to play)'.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2019, 07:55:44 AM »
lol .. sorry b-l .. completely forgot your question this morning .. I was devouring the day , not broadcasting .. .. so anyway .. as above .. yes .. I would prefer everything click n play .. even your little page~flicker ones .. but then only 'cause I would like some control as consumer .. b.c.

Thanks, B.C.

I think i'm gonna do that in the future.

My thinking was when i resize a small GIF to 701 pixels, the file size increases, sometimes dramatically. I wanted to prevent that.

But the 'want to have control over the media as a user' argument is a good one.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2019, 07:58:28 AM »
I voted the last one not because my internet sucks but while some animations are awesome many don't hold any interest. Besides what is the problem is it that hard to click a mouse to see something.

Thanks, Interstitial. I never considered that. Good, i made a poll! :)

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2019, 07:59:50 AM »
Having to do a click  to see a gif?
What a shocking waste of my valuable time.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2019, 08:07:24 AM »
Another vote for click to play please.
I use mobile  data  the bandwidth is restricted sometimes due to atmospherics or demand.   Also the Mbytes used from auto playing stuff  mounts over a month sometimes causing me to overrun the cap on my data plan. 

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2019, 08:17:35 AM »
Another vote for click to play please.
I use mobile  data  the bandwidth is restricted sometimes due to atmospherics or demand.   Also the Mbytes used from auto playing stuff  mounts over a month sometimes causing me to overrun the cap on my data plan.

Thanks a lot, KiwiGriff.

That's a valuable input. 'Click to play' it is!! :)

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2019, 08:29:14 AM »
The problem with this approach is, if you resize a small GIF so it wouldn't autoplay, you also make the file size bigger.


We could just modify the forum software to make all gifs/videos click to play, regardless of size.

By the way, I mentioned it in a different thread but gif's are antiquated formats anyway. If you make the animation a video like mp4 or webm you can reduce the filesize at least 80% without losing quality.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2019, 08:54:39 AM »
The problem with this approach is, if you resize a small GIF so it wouldn't autoplay, you also make the file size bigger.


We could just modify the forum software to make all gifs/videos click to play, regardless of size.

Eager to hear what Neven thinks of this (IMHO good) idea.

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By the way, I mentioned it in a different thread but gif's are antiquated formats anyway. If you make the animation a video like mp4 or webm you can reduce the filesize at least 80% without losing quality.

Yes, that's correct. But GIF is some kind of a standard. It's easy to share on every platform.

MP4 and WebM are not there yet. :(

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2019, 10:45:22 AM »
Having to do a click  to see a gif?
What a shocking waste of my valuable time.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2019, 11:04:45 AM »


euphemism

I laughed so hard, my cat's flight reflex kicked in...  :o

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2019, 11:12:27 AM »
Depending on your browser, there may be add-ons available for this. Might be worth a poke around internetland.

Used to be that you could hit SHIFT + ESC in Firefox, and animations would stop loading. There's also settings you can change in about:config to do with autoplaying (gif & videos).  I mostly use Palemoon here, and the only setting I have changed relating to autoplay is
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media.autoplay.enabled | type=boolean | value=falsebut that's just for videos (all sites).

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2019, 11:35:20 AM »
Animations are a bit irritating. In future I think I'll try posting a few lines of text and 3 or 4 large images instead.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2019, 11:52:36 AM »
Hi Uniquorn .. you post many of the best animations .. and the bigger the better .. your big ones are usually click to play and please everyone . Your little ones that self play or have 4 playing at once are more challenging . I would hate my poor intrnet to cause you to reduce your valuable imput .. b.c.
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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2019, 12:05:52 PM »
Animations are a bit irritating.

Your animations are many things. Things like educative, interesting, brilliant, and much more. The word irritating doesn't come to mind, sir. :)
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 12:15:05 PM by b_lumenkraft »

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2019, 12:13:07 PM »
on reflection .. and looking at Nares thread .. I would continue to be happy with little gifs self play .. b.c.
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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2019, 03:45:57 PM »
I'm alsi happy with self play for small gifs. It saves me clicks, especially useful when using my phone. For larger gifs click to play is best. I find animations to be much better than several images, as the differences are much more apparent.

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2019, 04:08:32 PM »
I find animations to be much better than several images, as the differences are much more apparent.

Totally agree! Sometimes a GIF shows more than 1000 pictures. ;)

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2019, 04:08:41 PM »
euphemism
I laughed so hard, my cat's flight reflex kicked in...  :o
Consider yourself reported to the ASPCA*  >:( - wait, that's only for the U. S. of A.  So, I've gone to "wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animal_welfare_organizations" and for Germany there is only one organization listed: Deutsche Arbeitsgemeinschaft zum Schutz der Eulen.  Consider yourself reported to them - of course, as owl lovers, they may think scaring cats is okay.  Maybe you're safe for another day.  :o
 :P

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Re: GIF size, your Internet, and what is usable?
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2019, 04:13:52 PM »
I can assure you, Tor, no animals were harmed during laughing this laugh!  ;D  ;)

Nice try with the owls though!