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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #150 on: November 21, 2023, 03:27:40 AM »
latest reading 421.88ppm

https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/

That's actually not a new data point, but the value for November 16, recalibrated from the 421.89 I have in my post. There is no data for November 17+18 (too variable). The latest value now is 420.72 ppm for November 19, which may indicate that we are almost back to normal after the spike.

The keelingcurve.ucsd.edu website doesn't say what date their "latest reading" refers to, which makes it almost useless as a source for raw data.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #151 on: November 26, 2023, 03:02:39 PM »
Another weekly average is available from Mauna Loa Laboratory on CO2.

Week beginning on November 19, 2023:     421.21 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago:                 418.38 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago:              395.26 ppm
Last updated: November 26, 2023

The annual increase is at 2.83 ppm, which is above the last ten year average of 2.60 ppm/a. The daily readings have somewhat stayed at the elevated level it switched to on Nov 13. Some of the days were "unavailable" due to high intra-day variations.
The values have risen now by 3 ppm (this was the seasonal minimum two months ago) and is now only 3 ppm below the last seasonal maximum in May 2023.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #152 on: November 26, 2023, 05:12:16 PM »
  Worth mentioning IMO , a reading at 434 ppm , and another at 429

  434 is the highest I have ever seen
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #153 on: November 27, 2023, 05:09:28 AM »
Sorry Chris, but those are hourly averages...
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #154 on: December 03, 2023, 04:07:07 PM »
Another weekly Mauna Loa CO2 average is available.

Week beginning on November 26, 2023:     420.59 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago:                   417.81 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago:                396.21 ppm
Last updated: December 03, 2023

Since Nov 25 only one day passed the quality criteria of NOAA. All other days were "unavailable". Therefore is no further evaluation possible.
At least, it seems that the values slowly return to the lower ("normal") level.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #155 on: December 03, 2023, 05:46:21 PM »
Thanks for your analysis, Stephan. I am guessing the last daily value under 420 ever in our lifetime is in the rear mirror; sad.

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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #156 on: December 05, 2023, 10:04:10 PM »
Thanks for your analysis, Stephan. I am guessing the last daily value under 420 ever in our lifetime is in the rear mirror; sad.
You're probably right. 420 ppm = 50% higher than pre-industrial has been quite a benchmark. Maybe next seasonal minimum will go below this threshold for a few hours or days...
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #157 on: December 05, 2023, 10:10:02 PM »
It is the fifth of a month. Therefore new monthly averages of Mauna Loa CO2 have been published.

November 2023:       420.46 ppm
November 2022:       417.47 ppm
November 2013:       395.16 ppm
Last updated: Dec 05, 2023

The annual increase is at 2.99 ppm (or 2.95 if I use the reading from last November, the value had been corrected insignificantly). Thie is much higher than the 10y average of 2.53 ppm/a and mirrors the increased production of CO2 by human activity; independent from the talks at COP 28. It is also higher than the expected rate which should be (linearly fitted 1958-2023) at 2.44 ppm/a.

I set an index of 100 [338.75 ppm] for 1980. November 2023 is at 124.1 compared to that index.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #158 on: December 06, 2023, 09:38:54 AM »
& here is the graph + global CO2 ppm
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #159 on: December 06, 2023, 08:51:28 PM »
Week beginning on November 26, 2023:     420.59 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago:                   417.81 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago:                396.21 ppm
Last updated: December 03, 2023

The value has been updated today, after a daily average (420.04 ppm) has been added for December 1st. The new weekly average for the week beginning November 26th is 420.31 ppm.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #160 on: December 10, 2023, 05:38:17 PM »
At the end of each weekend I deliver the latest weekly average on Mauna Loa CO2.

Week beginning on December 03, 2023:     421.02 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago:                  419.23 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago:               396.43 ppm
Last updated: December 10, 2023

Once again I will not evaluate the data. Only two days had acceptable averages; the measurements were completely shut down from Dec 2 to Dec 5. I wonder whether they will "repair" the gap within the next days...
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #161 on: December 12, 2023, 06:33:05 PM »
Should see a gap up here on the 14th as an upper low and vorticity maximum pass north of ML, switching the flow to northerly aloft and mixing in higher CO2 mid-lat air.

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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #162 on: December 17, 2023, 02:53:54 PM »
After two weeks of "unavailable" or even non-existing data a weekly average that can be evaluated has been pulished by NOAA.

Week beginning on December 10, 2023:     422.20 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago:                   418.81 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago:               396.39 ppm
Last updated: December 17, 2023

The annual increase is at 3.39 ppm which is clearly above the 10 year avearage of 2.58 ppm/a. The last two days showed again a jump by 1.5 ppm on a higher level. This finally made it above the 3 ppm/a increase rate. Nevertheless, even if this had not happened, the annual increase would have been at 2.9 ppm/a.

The gap I wrote about last week has not been filled yet. Maybe these two days will be missing forever.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #163 on: December 18, 2023, 06:25:03 PM »
My last update for the year (I won't be home over the holiday season). Next time I post about this will probably be in the new "2024 Mauna Loa CO2 levels" thread.

2023 is on track for an annual increase of about 2.6 ppm (currently 2.57 ppm for NOAA, 2.60 ppm for Scripps, with 2 1/2 weeks to go).

Closing the gap that Stephen mentioned in his last post wouldn't really change much in terms of the current year-to-year comparison, because 2022 also had a considerable gap around that time (caused by the eruption of the Mauna Loa volcano), comparing "no data" with "no data". Getting it back before next December would be nice though.

2022/23 had almost no increases at all during December and January -- an opportunity for 2023/24 to show some near-record weekly increases? We will see.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #164 on: December 22, 2023, 12:25:39 PM »
thanks Ren  ....great work    ......happy hols ......see you next year

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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #165 on: December 23, 2023, 08:23:13 PM »
A day earlier than usual (Christmas?) NOAA published the latest weekly Mauna Loa CO2 average.

Week beginning on December 17, 2023:     422.24 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago:                   419.05 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago:                397.72 ppm
Last updated: December 23, 2023

Although the daily averages slowly drop from the upper level they have jumped onto (see my last posting) the annual increase is at 3.19 ppm, much higher than in the average of the last ten years (2.45 ppm/a). The houry values moved smoothly. A slight correction may occur; this "week" contained only 5 days. I'll keep you updated.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #166 on: December 31, 2023, 12:37:47 PM »
The last weekly average of 2023 on Mauna Loa CO2 is available.

Week beginning on December 24, 2023:     421.75 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago:                   419.41 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago:                397.53 ppm
Last updated: December 30, 2023

Once again the record is incomplete. From Dec 22 to Dec 25 they recorded no measurements. So this weekly average contains only four days. On these days the values were sufficiently stable.
The annual increase of 2.34 ppm is below the 10 y average of 2.42 ppm/a.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #167 on: January 05, 2024, 08:43:33 PM »
The last month's average of Mauna Loa CO2 for 2023 is available.

December 2023:       421.86 ppm
December 2022:       418.99 ppm
December 2013:       396.84 ppm
Last updated: Jan 05, 2024

Although six days are still missing in the record, we can assume this average is valid enough for a further analysis. The annual increase for December 2023 is at 2.87 ppm. This is higher than the 10 years' average of 2.50 ppm, and compared to previous years in the very upper part.
The increase rate is also higher than the expected rate which should be (linearly fitted 1958-2023) at 2.44 ppm/a.

I set an index of 100 [338.75 ppm] for 1980. December 2023 is at 124.5 compared to that index.
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Re: 2023 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« Reply #168 on: January 05, 2024, 11:18:33 PM »
& here is the graph plus one for global CO2 ppm to October 23.

As the years have gone by the linear fit for the upward trend becomes less and less viable.
The future trend though is dependent on 2 parameters; the trend in CO2 emissiions and the trend in CO2 capture by the land and ocean sinks. The first is largely under human control, the 2nd a mixture of envionmemtal reaction to human action and the impact of climate change.



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« Reply #169 on: February 02, 2024, 08:53:29 PM »
Tamino offers some analysis and comments concerning CO2 acceleration on his WordPress blog.  A commenter on his blog suggested recent data looked (on a graph) like the upward acceleration had ended in recent years.  Do look at his analysis.  His conclusion:
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it is possible, but by no means demonstrated, that the concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere is no longer accelerating upward; it is certainly still rising but perhaps no longer at an ever-increasing rate. It is also possible that it is still rising at an ever-increasing rate. My advice to readers in general, is to pay close attention in the next several years to the CO2 concentration data rather than the “emissions” data.

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« Reply #170 on: February 05, 2024, 09:34:39 PM »
This is my answer to this statement.
There is no stop in the ever increasing increase rate of CO2 concentration.
Increase of increase rate = acceleration.
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« Reply #171 on: February 06, 2024, 04:24:31 AM »
Tamino is referring to change over the last single decade - increases continue but acceleration may or may not be happening this decade.

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« Reply #172 on: February 06, 2024, 06:19:34 PM »
Tamino is referring to change over the last single decade - increases continue but acceleration may or may not be happening this decade.

That's a true but meaningless statement, because it is true for every decade since the 1960s. Look at the data for any decade in isolation, and you don't see a clear trend. The year-to-year variability is too large.
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« Reply #173 on: February 06, 2024, 09:05:37 PM »
NOAA's data includes a de-seasonalised value. So I made a graph using that data.

Although the simple 12 month change is still highly variable, the CO2 ppm graph shows even more strongly a gradual acceleration in CO2 ppm, the 3 degree polynomial trend having an R2 value of 0.999.

That is not to say CO2 emissions when/if they are reduced might reduce the growth in CO2 ppm, BUT looking at the graph the big reduction in CO2 emissions during the COVID crisis has had little impact on the growth in CO2 ppm.

Which leaves us with the great unknown - the effectiveness of the land and ocean sinks.
 
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« Reply #174 on: February 09, 2024, 01:10:26 PM »
it would appear to be logical that the effectiveness of the sinks is declining............and emissions from wetlands and permafrost, for example, are increasing

https://www.arcticcirc.net/arcticnews/2022/8/4/thawing-permafrost-emissions-arctic-lakes-groundwater

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« Reply #175 on: February 09, 2024, 08:15:33 PM »
The ocean sink declines as we warm the planet so there´s that.
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