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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1150 on: August 02, 2020, 03:36:27 PM »
NSIDC daily extent

7-day average:  (5976 − 6246) / 7  =  −39
14-day average: (5976 − 6789) / 14  =  −58

2020-07-18  6.789
2020-07-19  6.710    −79
2020-07-20  6.600  −110
2020-07-21  6.475  −125
2020-07-22  6.330  −145
2020-07-23  6.301    −29
2020-07-24  6.311    +10
2020-07-25  6.246    −65
2020-07-26  6.204    −42
2020-07-27  6.130    −74
2020-07-28  6.221    +91
2020-07-29  6.090  −131
2020-07-30  6.069    −21
2020-07-31  6.036    −33
2020-08-01  5.976    −60

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1151 on: August 02, 2020, 03:57:56 PM »
Hi.

I made 2 analysis with the data from NSIDC provided by Wipneus. The first analysis looks to the changes from July 21st to July 30th. The true is that I choose the 21st just randomly, without a reason. The second analysis is from July 25th to July 30th. I think that July 25th was the beginning of the storm that had an impact on the ASI.

At first, after looking at the numbers, I did not know what to think. There is a bigger lost on area that it is on extent. I was expecting that. But the drops, in both analyses, are concentrated on the Central Arctic Basin, not on Chukchi and Beaufort.

On a 2nd thought, the drops on Chukchi and Beaufort were important when they are measure on percentage (2nd analysis). So, what I think is that the CAB had a hit north of Chukchi and Beaufort. I need to analyze the frontier of both seas versus the CAB, to see is that is true. But that is beyond the analysis that I am looking to do now.

I include the numbers of both analyses.

Maybe a picture could help to clarify this further:  here is a delta map, showing the change in NSIDC sea ice concentration over the past 7 days (i.e., 1 August minus 25 July 2020).  The strongest drops in concentration are in the area north of Chukchi and Western Beaufort where the cyclone was positioned.  As always, these could be real drops in sea ice concentration or transient weather effects affecting the surface wetness of the ice.


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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1152 on: August 02, 2020, 05:50:14 PM »
NSIDC Total Area as at 01-Aug-2020 (5 day trailing average) 3,760,497 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 3,760,497    km2      
-712,504    km2   <   2010's average.
-368,947    km2   <   2019
-1,520,858    km2   <   2000's average.
         
Total Change   -64    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -4    k   loss
Central Seas___   -60    k   loss
         
Peripheral Seas         
Okhotsk______    1    k   gain
Bering _______   -0    k   loss
Hudson Bay___    1    k   gain
Baffin  Bay____   -1    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -1    k   loss
Greenland____   -3    k   loss
Barents ______   -0    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Seas         
Chukchi______   -13    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -5    k   loss
CAA_________   -10    k   loss
East Siberian__   -8    k   loss
Central Arctic_   -22    k   loss
Laptev_______    1    k   gain
Kara_________   -3    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 64 k, 9 k less than the 2010's average loss of 73 k         
         
- 2020 area is at position #1 in the satellite record.         
- 2020 Area is 713 k less than the 2010's average         
- 2020 Area is 1,521 k less than the 2000's average         
- 2020 Area is 398 k less than 2016         
- 2020 Area is 369 k less than 2019          
- 2020 Area is 210 k less than 2012         
___________________________________________         
NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 01-Aug-2020 (5 day trailing average) 6,072,962 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 33 k, 59 k less than the 2010's average loss of 92k         
         
- 2020 EXTENT is at position #1 in the satellite record.         
- 2020 EXTENT is 670 k less than the 2010's average         
- 2020 EXTENT is 1,563 k less than the 2000's average         
- 2020 EXTENT is 666 k less than 2016         
- 2020 EXTENT is 132 k less than 2019          
- 2020 EXTENT is 347 k less than 2012

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Now both area and extent losses are below average. Is this transient as a new pattern emerges or is it a general decline in melting?  Given the general warmth in, e.g. the CAA & Hudson Bay, + the Atlantic Front, I am even more puzzled by the data.         
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1153 on: August 03, 2020, 03:39:00 AM »
<Cherry picking is not data. O>
« Last Edit: August 03, 2020, 04:32:24 AM by oren »

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1154 on: August 03, 2020, 05:24:13 AM »
<Cherry picking is not data. O>

Posting a data sheet with one day NSIDC sea ice extent and area for all regions is cherry picking?

This is a data thread and relevant to the sea ice melting season. This also helps readers understand where the 5-day average could possibly be headed.

There is only certain data allowed in this thread? Why delete the data sheet?

<You do not post this regularly, only on dates of your choosing. You highlight small increases while all around show decreases. I find that to be cherry-picking. If you wish, post a chart of Beaufort area and extent, not just the last day, then it will be in context. O>
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1155 on: August 03, 2020, 05:32:00 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

August 2nd, 2020:
     5,669,846 km2, a drop of -48,032 km2.
     2020 is the lowest on record.
     Highlighted 2020 & the 4 years with a daily lowest min in Sept. (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007).
     In the graph are today's 10 lowest years.
     Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent
« Last Edit: August 03, 2020, 05:42:51 AM by Juan C. García »
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1156 on: August 03, 2020, 10:41:46 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  5,669,846 KM2 as at 02-Aug-2020

Below average extent loss for the 11th day in a row, but still lowest in the satellite record

- Extent loss on this day 48k, 23 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 71k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 8,778 k, 845 k, 10.7% more than the 10 year average of 7,933 k.
- Extent is at position #1 in the satellite record
- Extent is  183 k LESS than 2019,
- Extent is  531 k LESS than 2016,
- Extent is  364 k LESS than 2012
- Extent is  429 k LESS than 2007
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On average 79.7% of melting from maximum to minimum done, and 43 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining melt (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in Sept 2020 of 3.65 million km2, 0.47 million km2 above the 2012 minimum of 3.18 million km2.

For a record low, remaining melt needs to be  23.5% or more above average.
For the 2020 minimum to be above the 2019 minimum of 3.96 million km2,  remaining melt needs to be  15.3% or more below the previous 10 years average remaining melt.

In every year from 2007 to 2019, with the exception of 2009, remaining melt results in an extent below 3.96 million km2, which was the 2nd lowest extent of 2019.
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1157 on: August 03, 2020, 12:17:19 PM »
Semimonthly BOE evaluation --- Sorry for the delays and missed posts. Sometimes life gets in the way of ice. Numbers updated through August 2nd instead of July 31st.

As of August 2nd, extent is 5,669,846 km2. With on average 42 days to go until the end of the melt season on September 13th, we now require a daily drop of -111,187 km2 for a BOE to occur. (See Attachment 1).

Total extent loss so far this season is -8,777,795 km2. This has resulted in the current season average daily drop of -57,749 km2. Since the year 2007, this is the 4th fastest average daily loss from maximum to July 31st (2007-2020). (See Attachment 2). ~numbers slightly off here in order to work with the late posting.

Total extent loss from maximum to July 31st is highest on record in the post-2007 era.. (See Attachment 3).

Looking only at the month of July, 2020 lost -3,162,434 km2, averaging -102,014 km2 per day. This is the largest loss since in the post-2007 era. (See Attachment 4).
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1158 on: August 03, 2020, 12:25:08 PM »
And for comparisons to other years:

The following attachment is for actual previous years daily average melt from August 1st to their respective minimums. (Attachment 1).

The following section is for what the previous years would have needed for a BOE to occur: From August 1st to each years respective minimum, our current BOE requirement of -108,100 (-111,187 as of Aug 2) km2 is the 4th lowest value, of which 2018 is the leader. (See attachment 2).
These numbers will vary depending on the date of 2020s minimum, with extra days decreasing this average.
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1159 on: August 03, 2020, 03:21:19 PM »
NSIDC Total Area as at 02-Aug-2020 (5 day trailing average) 3,705,988 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 3,705,988    km2      
-693,260    km2   <   2010's average.
-326,324    km2   <   2019
-1,501,391    km2   <   2000's average.
         
Total Change   -55    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -12    k   loss
Central Seas___   -42    k   loss
         
Peripheral Seas         
Okhotsk______    1    k   gain
Bering _______   -0    k   loss
Hudson Bay___   -4    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -2    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -1    k   loss
Greenland____   -5    k   loss
Barents ______   -0    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Seas         
Chukchi______   -14    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -1    k   loss
CAA_________   -9    k   loss
East Siberian__   -2    k   loss
Central Arctic_   -13    k   loss
Laptev_______    0    k   gain
Kara_________   -4    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 55 k, 19 k less than the 2010's average loss of 74 k         
         
- 2020 area is at position #1 in the satellite record.         
- 2020 Area is 693 k less than the 2010's average         
- 2020 Area is 1,501 k less than the 2000's average         
- 2020 Area is 380 k less than 2016         
- 2020 Area is 326 k less than 2019          
- 2020 Area is 156 k less than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 02-Aug-2020 (5 day trailing average) 5,996,425 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 77 k, 11 k less than the 2010's average loss of 88k         
         
- 2020 EXTENT is at position #1 in the satellite record.         
- 2020 EXTENT is 658 k less than the 2010's average         
- 2020 EXTENT is 1,556 k less than the 2000's average         
- 2020 EXTENT is 635 k less than 2016         
- 2020 EXTENT is 121 k less than 2019          
- 2020 EXTENT is 334 k less than 2012
         
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1160 on: August 03, 2020, 03:36:24 PM »
Central Arctic Sea & Extent Graphs side by side.
Test to see what it looks like
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« Reply #1161 on: August 03, 2020, 03:40:59 PM »
Central Arctic Sea & Extent Graphs side by side.
Test to see what it looks like
It looks great.
G., can you perhaps make a table of each year's CAB sea ice area minimum? I think it would be interesting.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1162 on: August 03, 2020, 03:45:37 PM »
NSIDC daily extent

7-day average:  (5852 − 6204) / 7  =  −50
14-day average: (5852 − 6710) / 14  =  −61

2020-07-19  6.710
2020-07-20  6.600  −110
2020-07-21  6.475  −125
2020-07-22  6.330  −145
2020-07-23  6.301    −29
2020-07-24  6.311    +10
2020-07-25  6.246    −65
2020-07-26  6.204    −42
2020-07-27  6.130    −74
2020-07-28  6.221    +91
2020-07-29  6.090  −131
2020-07-30  6.069    −21
2020-07-31  6.036    −33
2020-08-01  5.976    −60
2020-08-02  5.852  −124

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1163 on: August 03, 2020, 05:55:33 PM »
Central Arctic Sea & Extent Graphs side by side.
Test to see what it looks like
It looks great.
G., can you perhaps make a table of each year's CAB sea ice area minimum? I think it would be interesting.
Attached
BUT it is not the CAB - Central Arctic BASIN per Wipneus - 4.432 million Km2,

It is for the NSIDC Central Arctic SEA CAS - 3.224 million km2.

& it was 2007 wot dunnit
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« Reply #1164 on: August 03, 2020, 06:52:41 PM »
Thanks a lot, I did mean NSIDC data using their regions.
I remind new readers Wipneus did not come up with "his" regions himself, these originated with a now-defunct website called Cryosphere Today,  CT.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1165 on: August 03, 2020, 06:55:25 PM »
Attached

This means that in terms of ice area NSDIC in the Central Arctic 2020 is in 7th place after 2016, 2012, 2011, 2007, 2017, 2013.

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« Reply #1166 on: August 03, 2020, 08:52:18 PM »
Arctic Sea Ice area - evaluation "relative area wise" July 20 - August 02. After the GAAC has lost its dominance. The order of the seas has changed. But not of all of them.

The big laggard:
CAB        - 13%
Slow decrease:
Laptev    - 22%
Beaufort - 25%
Average:
Grønland - 30%
Kara       - 31%
CAA        - 36%
Fast decrease:
Chukchi  - 43%
Hudson   - 45%
ESS        - 45%
Baffin     - 57%
The fastest:
Barents  - 84%, almost melted out completely.
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1167 on: August 04, 2020, 05:29:19 AM »
Attached

This means that in terms of ice area NSDIC in the Central Arctic 2020 is in 7th place after 2016, 2012, 2011, 2007, 2017, 2013.

How is it in 7th place?
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1168 on: August 04, 2020, 05:31:54 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

August 3rd, 2020:
     5,612,934 km2, a drop of -56,912 km2.
     2020 is the lowest on record.
     Highlighted 2020 & the 4 years with a daily lowest min in Sept. (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007).
     In the graph are today's 10 lowest years.
     Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent
« Last Edit: August 04, 2020, 05:42:58 AM by Juan C. García »
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #1169 on: August 04, 2020, 05:45:46 AM »
Attached

This means that in terms of ice area NSDIC in the Central Arctic 2020 is in 7th place after 2016, 2012, 2011, 2007, 2017, 2013.

How is it in 7th place?
Meaning that at its current 2243K CAB area 2020 has already passed the minimum area of most years, except these 6, according to NSIDC data.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1170 on: August 04, 2020, 06:07:13 AM »
Ahhhh... the yearly battle.against 2012 extent and area August drops is approaching...slope is flattening out tho

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« Reply #1171 on: August 04, 2020, 02:14:52 PM »

This means that in terms of ice area NSDIC in the Central Arctic 2020 is in 7th place after 2016, 2012, 2011, 2007, 2017, 2013.

How is it in 7th place?
Meaning that at its current 2243K CAB area 2020 has already passed the minimum area of most years, except these 6, according to NSIDC data.

Talking about current "places" when there's only one entrant still running and all the others have finished seems a bit confusing.  What might be less confusing is to say that 2020 can't finish in lower than 7th place.   
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1172 on: August 04, 2020, 04:29:04 PM »
NSIDC daily extent

7-day average:  (5790 − 6130) / 7  =  −49
14-day average: (5790 − 6600) / 14  =  −58

2020-07-20  6.600
2020-07-21  6.475  −125
2020-07-22  6.330  −145
2020-07-23  6.301    −29
2020-07-24  6.311    +10
2020-07-25  6.246    −65
2020-07-26  6.204    −42
2020-07-27  6.130    −74
2020-07-28  6.221    +91
2020-07-29  6.090  −131
2020-07-30  6.069    −21
2020-07-31  6.036    −33
2020-08-01  5.976    −60
2020-08-02  5.852  −124
2020-08-03  5.790    −62

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1173 on: August 05, 2020, 06:05:09 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

August 4th, 2020:
     5,554,165 km2, a drop of -58,769 km2.
     2020 is the lowest on record.
     Highlighted 2020 & the 4 years with a daily lowest min in Sept. (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007).
     In the graph are today's 10 lowest years.
     Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent
« Last Edit: August 05, 2020, 06:17:21 AM by Juan C. García »
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #1174 on: August 05, 2020, 04:13:47 PM »
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« Reply #1176 on: August 05, 2020, 04:37:51 PM »
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1177 on: August 05, 2020, 04:45:05 PM »
My God gerontocrat! That's awful. I wish you have made backups.
Perhaps we from the forum could each give some money for you to buy a (2nd hand?) laptop.

I wish you strength with the sudden hole in your life/routine.
A virtual hug from me.
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All right, Nanning, if anyone opens a pot to help Gerontocrat, I'm in.
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1178 on: August 05, 2020, 04:48:33 PM »
In the mean time, while I don't know how to find exact area numbers, Nico's graph for the last two days suggest an averaged drop not much different from the past week, in other words around -60k km^2 per day.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1179 on: August 05, 2020, 04:49:26 PM »

I'm in too!

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1180 on: August 05, 2020, 04:59:32 PM »
Hi all, been a lurker here for awhile but thought I could add some area data quickly.  Here is the 1 day and 5 day area totals based off of Nico's site.  These are in millions of sq. km.

Edit:  Updated with headers and more clean data
« Last Edit: August 05, 2020, 05:11:24 PM by madweather »

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1181 on: August 05, 2020, 04:59:36 PM »
Sorry folks but...

Dog + Coffee + Laptop = DISASTER.

Laptop may not be repairable and as my budget does not run to a new laptop that's me out of action indefinitely.ĺ
Sorry to hear that, g, but I am curious...how did you manage to post that? Did you go to the library? I may need to use your trick someday.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1182 on: August 05, 2020, 05:05:45 PM »
Perhaps we from the forum could each give some money for you to buy a (2nd hand?) laptop.
G., I am sure there will be good participation, please if you are interested (and you should be I hope) a thread should be opened to provide the required budget and a means of collection.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1183 on: August 05, 2020, 05:07:28 PM »
Hi all, been a lurker here for awhile but thought I could add some area data quickly.  Here is the 1 day and 5 day area totals based off of Nico's site.  These are in millions of sq. km.
Welcome madweather, and thanks.
Just note headings are missing, and the last number on the right seems wrong.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1184 on: August 05, 2020, 05:11:22 PM »
In the mean time, while I don't know how to find exact area numbers, Nico's graph for the last two days suggest an averaged drop not much different from the past week, in other words around -60k km^2 per day.

you can go here,
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxhcmN0aXNjaGVwaW5ndWlufGd4OjU1OGIwZWI0NGI2ZDI5YTM
but Juan C. Garcia and Nico have another source, I think, because they have the information before the update of this link, but still with a difference of a few thousand km2.
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1185 on: August 05, 2020, 05:21:39 PM »
Time for a GoFundMe. I'd put up some money to help. I'm sure others would as well.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1186 on: August 05, 2020, 05:35:12 PM »
Everyone who wants to contribute please connect with Be Cause via PM.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1187 on: August 05, 2020, 05:52:53 PM »
  .. or not ! .. I've got things covered .. I offered to cover Gero in circumstances like this a year or 2 ago so now i am .. however I'm delighted to see community in action .. b.c.
2007 + 5 = 2012 + 4 = 2016 + 3 = 2019 + 2 = 2021 
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1188 on: August 05, 2020, 06:03:35 PM »
I'm good for fifty quid.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1189 on: August 05, 2020, 07:00:30 PM »
I do not post that much, but I'm here daily checking numbers.
Please, let me know where I can contribute toward a new laptop for Gero. His graphs are so essentials and truly missed.
Thanks everybody for all the work and love you put in this space.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1190 on: August 05, 2020, 07:21:01 PM »
  .. or not ! .. I've got things covered .. I offered to cover Gero in circumstances like this a year or 2 ago so now i am .. however I'm delighted to see community in action .. b.c.

I echo the sentiment of others, G has been a tremendous resource - please let me (us) know what we can do - I have years of experience in data recovery, if needed.  (It sounds like the drives should be intact ... but whatever I can do to help).

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1191 on: August 05, 2020, 07:25:49 PM »
Could someone else take over G's spot temporarily?
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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1192 on: August 05, 2020, 07:43:11 PM »
NSIDC daily extent

7-day average:  (5783 − 6221) / 7  =  −63
14-day average: (5783 − 6475) / 14  =  −49

2020-07-21  6.475
2020-07-22  6.330  −145
2020-07-23  6.301    −29
2020-07-24  6.311    +10
2020-07-25  6.246    −65
2020-07-26  6.204    −42
2020-07-27  6.130    −74
2020-07-28  6.221    +91
2020-07-29  6.090  −131
2020-07-30  6.069    −21
2020-07-31  6.036    −33
2020-08-01  5.976    −60
2020-08-02  5.852  −124
2020-08-03  5.790    −62
2020-08-04  5.783      −7

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1193 on: August 05, 2020, 07:45:47 PM »
I do not post that much, but I'm here daily checking numbers.
Please, let me know where I can contribute toward a new laptop for Gero. His graphs are so essentials and truly missed.
Thanks everybody for all the work and love you put in this space.

+1

same here

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1194 on: August 05, 2020, 08:20:39 PM »
Time for a GoFundMe. I'd put up some money to help. I'm sure others would as well.

If someone can organise it I'm good for 50 GBP too.

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1195 on: August 05, 2020, 08:29:35 PM »
Can we send money through Paypal?

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1196 on: August 05, 2020, 09:00:18 PM »

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1197 on: August 05, 2020, 09:24:48 PM »
Can you chose the name that shows up on the gofundme page. Or is it the name on the credid card that shows up ?

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Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #1198 on: August 05, 2020, 09:25:39 PM »
Thanks to all.

It will be done ASAP.. hopefully normal service resumes early next week.

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« Reply #1199 on: August 05, 2020, 09:27:53 PM »
Alexander, i think your real name shows up. Maybe there is a setting to donate anonymously, but i don't see it. There are other payment methods other than CC though.