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How many will die of Covid19 in the 2020s directly and indirectly

Less than 10,000
10 (14.7%)
10,000-100,000
9 (13.2%)
100,000-1,000,000
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One to ten million
13 (19.1%)
Ten to a hundred million
14 (20.6%)
Hundred million to one billion
9 (13.2%)
Over a billion
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #6750 on: May 23, 2020, 11:44:51 AM »
These are the reasons why nations should wrestle deaths away from C19 and not just give up the fight:

Oxford COVID-19 vaccine to begin phase II/III human trials


http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-05-22-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-begin-phase-iiiii-human-trials


Convalescent plasma treatment of severe COVID-19: A matched control study


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.20.20102236v1

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. Conclusions Convalescent plasma transfusion is a potentially efficacious treatment option for patients hospitalized with COVID-19; however, these data suggest that non-intubated patients may benefit more than those requiring mechanical ventilation.


Vitamin-D and COVID-19: do deficient risk a poorer outcome?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2/fulltext

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Martineau is pragmatic: “At best vitamin D deficiency will only be one of many factors involved in determining outcome of COVID-19, but it's a problem that could be corrected safely and cheaply; there is no downside to speak of, and good reason to think there might be a benefit”.


There is every reason to expect treatment to keep improving. Social distancing, hand hygiene, indoor masking and contact tracing should be enough to keep the numbers down while it is warm. By the time fall gets here a combination of vaccines and improved treatments might be enough to avoid a second wave altogether.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #6751 on: May 23, 2020, 12:30:26 PM »
Ken Rice has got (one of) the open sourced Imperial College model(s) working:

https://andthentheresphysics.wordpress.com/2020/05/16/the-imperial-college-code/

Regarding the UK he concludes:

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Almost 30000 fewer [deaths] if lockdown had started a week earlier.
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« Reply #6752 on: May 23, 2020, 12:37:52 PM »
Another Large Study Finds No Benefit to Hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1212886

Hydroxychloroquine does not help COVID-19 patients, and indeed may increase deaths, according to a large, international study published Friday in The Lancet.

http://www.thelancet-press.com/embargo/hydroxychloroquine.pdf

The new study, led by investigators at Brigham and Women's Hospital Center in Boston, included data from 671 hospitals on six continents.

Researchers compared the outcomes of nearly 15,000 COVID-19 patients received the drug or a similar compound, chloroquine, plus an antibiotic with those of about 81,000 COVID-19 patients who had not received the drugs. It was an observational study, meaning patients were not randomized to get a particular drug or a placebo.

"We were unable to confirm a benefit of hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine, when used alone or with" an antibiotic, the study authors wrote. What's more, the patients who got the drugs were more likely than the others to die in the hospital.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #6753 on: May 23, 2020, 01:41:18 PM »
Preventing 'Cytokine Storm' May Ease Severe COVID-19 Symptoms
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-cytokine-storm-ease-severe-covid-.html

... Their treatment, a common type of prescription drug called prazosin, sold under the brand name Minipress, an alpha blocker, might break a cycle of hyperinflammation before it ramps up, their findings from mouse studies and a recent analysis of medical claims data suggest.

"The approach we're advocating involves treating people who are at high risk early in the course of the disease, when you know they're infected but before they have severe symptoms," says Vogelstein. If the trial's results suggest the drug is safe and effective against COVID-19, it could potentially help many people recover safely at home and lessen the strain on hospital resources, he says.

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High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation Has No Current Benefit In Preventing or Treating COVID-19
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-high-dose-vitamin-d-supplementation-current.html

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Combining Remdesivir With Other Meds Could Boost COVID-Fighting Power
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-combining-remdesivir-meds-boost-covid-fighting.html

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Italy Virus Death Toll Could Be 19,000 Higher Than Reported: Agency
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-italy-virus-death-toll-higher.html

Italy's death toll from the novel coronavirus in March and April could be nearly 19,000 higher than the official figure of 32,000, the national social security agency said Thursday.

The Istituto Nazionale della Previdenza Sociale (INPS), the largest social security and welfare institute in Italy, said in a new study that the official death figures were not "reliable".

Its study showed that 156,42 total deaths were recorded in Italy in March and April, which is 46,909 higher than the average number of fatalities in those months recorded between 2015 and 2019.

But only 27,938 deaths linked to coronavirus were reported during that period by the Civil Protection Agency, whose toll forms the basis of national statistics, the INPS said.

That meant there were 18,971 more deaths than normal during this period, with the vast majority of 18,412 recorded in the coronavirus-ravaged north of the country.

"Given the fact that the number of deaths is quite stable in these times, we can—with necessary caution—attribute a large portion of these deaths during these past two months to the epidemic," the INPS said.

It added that the increase in deaths was likely not only due to the disease, but from people suffering from other illnesses unable to get healthcare due to hospitals being overwhelmed by the coronavirus pandemic.

As of Friday, the pandemic has claimed 32,486 deaths in Italy, of which 26,715 have been in Lombardy alone—Europe's worst affected region.
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« Reply #6754 on: May 23, 2020, 03:12:53 PM »
She didn't predict that. She said it was possible, but there is no way of telling, because there are still so many unknowns, on so many levels.

Qusetion (paraphrased): Do you have an IFR estimate?

Answer:"I think the epidemic has largely come and gone in this country, so it would be definitely less than 1/1000, probably closer to 1/10000."

You see the 'I think'? And can you post everything she says in that particular segment, instead of minequoting?

What's the problem with a lower IFR? Why does it have to be maximized? The data is still very incomplete and possibly faulty. That's why there's a lot of pushback from serious scientists, and I can guarantee you they aren't white supremacist Trumputin conspiracy theorists.

I suppose I should take her seriously but not literally? 

This conversation has gotten quite ridiculous.  You accuse everyone of inflating the severity of this crisis, then you promote sources that do the opposite. 

IFR is very likely greater than 0.5.  A much lower IFR means a different policy response is warranted.  Promoting a much lower IFR than reality corresponds to promoting, above honest appraisal, a policy response that is appropriate for that lower IFR.


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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #6755 on: May 23, 2020, 06:31:44 PM »
World...
5.3 million cases so far, increasing at 100k per day,
0.34 million dead, 5,000 new deaths per day.

UK study said that 17% of Londoners had antibodies, 5% of rest of the population had antibodies.
i.e. in the UK only 1 in 14 people with proven exposure.

People starting to be on the move again.
Hospital staff are holding their breath.

Carelessness costs lives?
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« Reply #6756 on: May 23, 2020, 10:22:53 PM »
I think there is only one place on the planet that has seen a glimp of the real face of COVID-19. And that's Wuhan. All the rest only has seen some kind of baby COVID-19. And i remember a you-tube movie that was showing 28 bodies outside of houses waiting to be picked up, on a piece of street maybe a couple hundred yards long. In the care-home in my neighbourhood more elderly died than in Qatar and Singapore together. And here it only started half way march, that's almost after the winter.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #6757 on: May 23, 2020, 10:31:53 PM »
Some Countries Are Hardly Testing for COVID-19 At All
https://www.axios.com/poor-countries-coronavirus-testing-d60610b5-52c4-4a42-96ce-4f603bd8bcec.html



Coronavirus testing is barely scratching the surface in much of the developing world.

By the numbers: Americans are more than 200 times as likely to have been tested as people in countries like Nigeria and Somalia, according to data compiled by the International Rescue Committee (IRC).

The lack of tests in many poorer countries can be attributed to political dysfunction, poor infrastructure and shortages of testing kits and lab capacity.

Big proportions of tests are coming back positive in countries like Somalia (45%), Afghanistan (30%), Chad (29%) and Mexico (29%), suggesting many cases remain undetected. Roughly 15% of tests in the U.S. and 6% in Germany return positive results.

In the Democratic Republic of Congo, Miliband notes, samples have to be transported to labs in Kinshasa. That's no easy task in a country where very few cities are connected to the capital by road.

In Yemen, Tanzania, Northeast Syria and even Nigeria, which is home to 200 million people, so little testing is being conducted that the available data is of limited value.

"We've got countries where there are hardly any tests going on at all," Miliband says, "and we've got countries in South Asia where we're getting enough testing to be very worried."

In Pakistan, he notes, it took 45 days to reach 5,000 cases, but just two more for the tally to double to 10,000.

It's far cheaper to prevent outbreaks from spreading within countries than to respond to massive outbreaks later — particularly given the risk they could spread around the world.
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« Reply #6758 on: May 23, 2020, 11:19:01 PM »
Trump Lashes Out At the Scientists Whose Findings Contradict Him
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/trump-lashes-scientists-findings-contradict-200522135430191.html

The US president called one study "a Trump enemy statement"; another "a political hit job".

Twice this week, Trump has not only dismissed the findings of studies but suggested - without evidence - that their authors were motivated by politics and to undermine his efforts to roll back coronavirus restrictions.



... Trump has long been sceptical of mainstream science - dismissing human-made climate change as a "hoax", suggesting that noise from wind turbines causes cancer and claiming that exercise can deplete a body's finite amount of energy. It is part of a larger scepticism of expertise and backlash against "elites" that has become increasingly popular among Trump's conservative base.

But undermining Americans' trust in the integrity and objectivity of scientists is especially dangerous during a pandemic when the public is relying on its leaders to develop policies based on the best available information ...

"If the president is politicising science, if he's discounting health experts, then the public is going to be fearful and confused," Gostin said, calling it "dismaying".

... Asked this week what evidence he had that hydroxychloroquine was effective in preventing COVID-19, Trump responded: "Are you ready? Here's my evidence: I get a lot of positive calls about it."

Trump's criticism of the studies comes as his allies have been eager to counter messages from public health experts who say the president is putting lives at risk by pushing states to quickly reopen in an election year.

Republican political operatives have been recruiting pro-Trump doctors to go on television to advocate for reviving the US economy as quickly as possible, without waiting to meet federal safety benchmarks.

... "I think there are real dangers," Gostin said, "for the president to play scientist and doctor on TV."

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« Reply #6759 on: May 23, 2020, 11:50:57 PM »
Brazil Surges to Second Place In Covid-19 Cases Worldwide
https://amp.france24.com/en/20200523-brazil-s-total-covid-19-cases-surpass-330-000-as-who-calls-south-america-a-new-epicenter



Brazil overtook Russia Friday as the country with the second-highest number of coronavirus infections worldwide behind the United States, as the Americas emerged as a new epicenter of the pandemic.

The South American country has now registered 330,890 infections and 21,048 deaths from the new coronavirus, though experts say under-testing means the real figures may be 15 times higher or more.

Brazil's death toll rose by 1,001 in 24 hours, the third time in four days it has come in over 1,000.



But the crisis is not expected to peak in Brazil until June.

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More Than 40 Diagnosed With COVID-19 After Frankfurt Church Service
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/brazil-world-highest-coronavirus-cases-live-updates-200522235119619.html

More than 40 people have tested positive for the novel coronavirus following a church service in Frankfurt, Germany's financial centre, earlier this month, the head of the city's health department told a news agency.

"Most of them are not seriously ill. As far as we know only one person has been admitted to hospital," Rene Gottschalk told the dpa agency.

The service took place on May 10 at a Baptist church, the department's deputy chief Antoni Walczok told local newspaper Frankfurter Rundschau.

"The situation is very dynamic," Walczok told the paper, adding the church did not violate official guidelines aimed at containing the spread of the virus.
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« Reply #6760 on: May 24, 2020, 01:03:56 AM »


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According to the most updated information, and under CDC’s “best estimate about viral transmission and disease severity in the United States,” the agency believes that 35 per cent of people infected by the coronavirus show no symptoms – but are nonetheless capable of spreading the virus.

The agency also noted that 40 per cent of coronavirus transmissions occur before people get sick.
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« Reply #6761 on: May 24, 2020, 04:35:16 AM »


New York Times covers front page with 1,000 Covid-19 death notices

The New York Times has filled the entire front page of Sunday’s paper with the death notices of victims from across the country.

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Trump Plays Golf at His Virginia Club as U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Nears 100,000
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/trump-plays-golf-virginia-club-coronavirus-deaths-rise.amp

On a day when the number of deaths in the United States from the coronavirus got close to reaching the 100,000-mark, the presidential motorcade arrived at the Sterling club at 10:27 a.m. Reporters at the scene noted that while Secret Service members were all wearing masks, Trump and his golfing buddies went mask free. Footage from the golf outing appeared to show Trump riding in his golf cart by himself without a caddy. And there were at least some exceptions to social distancing rules as Trump could be seen patting another golfer on the shoulder at one point.

Trump’s lack of golf has clearly been on his mind lately. “I’d really like to play golf but it’s too busy right now,” he told reporters earlier this month. He also called into a PGA golf program on NBC last weekend and talked about how much he yearned for the sport. “I do miss it. I haven’t played, really, since this problem that we have started. I haven’t been able to play golf for a while. I’ve been very busy, and I think that it’s just one of those things, but we’re getting back to normal,” Trump said.

Andrew Kaczynski posted a clip on Twitter of Trump calling into Fox and Friends to complain Obama was playing golf when there were a whopping two cases of Ebola in the United States.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KFILE/status/1264224632976150529

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« Reply #6762 on: May 24, 2020, 08:47:16 AM »
Cholera Riots refers to civil disturbances associated with an outbreak or epidemic of cholera.

<Long quote removed. How are mostly 19th century riots relevant here? kassy>

Link >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholera_Riots
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« Reply #6763 on: May 24, 2020, 03:33:08 PM »
Thanks, blum. I hadn't heard of cholera riots...something to add to my possible course on language and disease.

Meanwhile:

The numbers are in — and the rich are making out like bandits during this pandemic

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...analysis of Federal Reserve data shows a record flow of greenbacks let the corporate rich pour trillions of dollars into their accounts as they fired tens of millions.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/05/the-numbers-are-in-and-the-rich-are-making-out-like-bandits-during-this-pandemic/
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« Reply #6764 on: May 24, 2020, 04:27:35 PM »
How are mostly 19th century riots relevant here? kassy>

We see history repeating, Kassy. Conspiracy theories, irrational believes due to lag of knowledge, the ones doing the right things are getting smeared and blamed, politicians don't let a good crisis go to waste, etc. Then and now.

The parallels are uncanny.
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« Reply #6765 on: May 24, 2020, 06:06:15 PM »
Crumbs for the Hungry but Windfalls for the Rich

Billions are going to zillionaires under the guise of pandemic relief.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/23/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-economic-response.html
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« Reply #6766 on: May 24, 2020, 08:04:16 PM »
The saddest part is that all that money could have gone to save lives and the economy.  Instead, they waste it in inefficient enterprises that will now spend it in inefficient ways. If it was given to the people it would have been spent where it was needed the most.
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« Reply #6768 on: May 25, 2020, 04:44:42 PM »
Hot off assorted presses here in the UK, Boris Johnson's "aide" Dominic Cummings is in hot water for breaching lockdown several times:

https://CoV-eHealth.org/2020/05/25/uk-covid-19-messaging-episode-2/

Meanwhile up the M5 motorway from here, Western-super-Mare General Hospital announced this morning that it:

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This is a precautionary measure in order to maintain the safety of staff and patients in response to the high number of patients with Coronavirus in the hospital.

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« Reply #6769 on: May 25, 2020, 05:00:53 PM »
South America is scaringly entering the stats.  :-[
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« Reply #6770 on: May 25, 2020, 05:49:10 PM »
The Netherlands is removing restrictions with bars reopening on june the 1st.

The 1,5m rule still applies but there will be more contacts.

Things like barbers and dentists are already open.

Recently we had some clusters in meat packing plants. The infected workers were of course mostly east european workers who mostly live to close together so that is one way to keep a chain of spread alive.
 
But the interestingly enough i read in a newspaper that all the cases in the biggest cluster were all asymptomatic. Sadly the paper did not say how they found them but i think a case in another meat plant plus them being and identified problem place lead to much more general testing.

BTW it also included three inspectors who are veterinarians (so probably dutch and evidence of spread in the workplace).

We will see what the dutch numbers after june 1st do.

It is a traditional holiday too which is always busy so that might be problematic for the bars. The government refused to let the horeca test the implementation of the rules earlier.

And on a side note we have clusters in several mink farms including one quite bad one with mink to human transfers. The farmers want the government to cull (some of) the farms.
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« Reply #6771 on: May 25, 2020, 09:13:14 PM »
I think I mentioned that my daughter works at a small bar near the middle of Utrecht, Kafé België.

She's a bit freaked out about going back, since it is basically impossible for anyone to be 1.5 m away from anyone one if there are more than like 3 people in the bar at once. But of course she misses her coworkers and many of the patrons.

Here, there is a big outbreak in high rises a few blocks from my house that mostly houses East African immigrants...same issues of overcrowding, but also there doesn't seem to have been enough targeted educations toward these communities, and there are different cultural obstacles to overcome. Somalis (and many others from the Middle East and East Africa) tend to stand very close together while talking, and they still tend to do this, from what I've seen, often without masks.
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« Reply #6772 on: May 25, 2020, 09:32:28 PM »
U.S. Limits Travel From Brazil Amid Worsening Coronavirus Outbreak
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2300KP

(Reuters) - The White House on Sunday said it was restricting travel from Brazil to the United States, two days after the South American nation became the world's No. 2 hotspot for coronavirus cases.

The travel ban was a blow to right-wing Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, who has followed the example of U.S. President Donald Trump in addressing the pandemic, fighting calls for social distancing and touting unproven drugs.

The new restrictions come into force on May 28, the embassy said, prohibiting most non-U.S. citizens from traveling to the United States if they have been in Brazil in the last two weeks. Green card holders, close relatives of U.S. citizens and flight crew members, among select others, would be exempt. (... apparently the virus checks your nationality before infecting you)

... "There is nothing specific against Brazil," tweeted Filipe Martins, an advisor on international affairs to Bolsonaro.

Two hours earlier, he wrote that Trump had "opened a direct line for the exchange of information about the protocol for using hydroxychloroquine and other treatments for the virus."

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Hydroxychloroquine Tied to Deaths, Heart Risk in Covid Study
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-05-22/hydroxychloroquine-linked-to-deaths-heart-risks-in-covid-study

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WHO Pauses Trial of Hydroxychloroquine as Coronavirus Treatment Amid Safety Concerns
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/25/coronavirus-whos-solidarity-trial-is-pausing-tests-for-hydroxychloroquine-amid-safety-concerns.html

The World Health Organization on Monday temporarily suspended its trial of hydroxycholoroquine, the drug backed by President Donald Trump to combat the deadly coronavirus, over safety concerns.

In a news briefing on Monday, WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said that in light of a paper published last week in the Lancet, that showed people taking hydroxychloroquine were at higher risk of death and heart problems than those that were not, there would be “a temporary pause” on the hydroxychloroquine arm of its global clinical trial.

"The Executive Group has implemented a temporary pause of the hydroxychloroquine arm within the Solidarity Trial while the safety data is reviewed by the Data Safety Monitoring Board," WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WHO/status/1264948479480209409

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Brazil's Health Secretary Resigns
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/eid-al-fitr-celebrated-coronavirus-lockdown-live-updates-200523231349229.html

One of the architects of Brazil's battle against the coronavirus pandemic has resigned.

The departure of epidemiologist Wanderson de Oliveira adds to turmoil in a Health Ministry whose recommendations for restrictions to limit the disease have often clashed with President Jair Bolsonaro’s calls to open the economy.

De Oliveira said he would leave his post on Monday. He initially offered his resignation last month, but stayed on at the request of then-Minister Luiz Mandetta, who shortly afterward was fired by Bolsonaro.

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Desperate Rats Brazenly Searching for Food During Coronavirus Pandemic, CDC Warns
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/5252522002

https://www.axios.com/aggressive-hungry-rats-cdc-coronavirus-warning-8d375c42-fc05-41a3-a2bc-4eb342e12fe9.html

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/25/us-city-lockdowns-rat-aggression-lack-food-waste

Officials say rats have resorted to open warfare and eating their young as closures reduce edible waste.

... Last month, according to the national health body, dumpster-diving rats were observed resorting to open warfare, cannibalism and eating their young in the wake of urban shutdowns.

“Community-wide closures have led to a decrease in food available to rodents, especially in dense commercial areas,” the CDC said in recently updated rodent-control guidelines.

Elevated levels of rat aggression has been observed in New York, where there are increased reports of cannibalism and infanticide, and New Orleans, where rat behavior was caught on CCTV.

Some rodent experts predicted increased urban rat aggression.

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Sounds like something out of George R. Stewart's 1949 post-apocalyptic novel Earth Abides - where nature slowly reclaims previously human-occupied cities - newspaper headlines this weekend warn of hordes of `aggressive rats' flourishing due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

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« Reply #6773 on: May 25, 2020, 11:34:52 PM »
Attended my first Mass in almost three months today. Pews are half-blocked off in a checkerboard pattern, the cloth backing of the pews is removed so they can be cleaned after every Mass, people have to go one at a time to Communion, no wine, no singing...a lot of changes.
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« Reply #6774 on: Today at 12:29:57 AM »
I stopped watching Chris Martenson’s videos regularly some time ago as his focus is often too negative, and he has a history of trying to sell apocalypses (and a probably interested promotion of gold and silver purchase as he calls them ‘real wealth’ and his web is associated with gold and silver brokerage; no, metals are not THE real wealth). Also he stopped providing useful data and started focusing on conspiracy theories. A couple of them I find plausible, as the four inserted aminoacids in Wuhan Lab by humans, but I refuse to be living with it in my mind on this every day, and then there’s the anti-HCQ conspiracy.

About this last theory, I watched recently the video where he makes the case for HCQ administered very early as soon as symptoms arrive and at usual dosages, avoiding its use late in the severe Hospital/ICU stage and at large dosages.

However there seems to be a large number of studies where timing and dosage is not well controlled.

The corrupt W.H.O. used to consider low risk associated to HCQ as a malaria and lupus drug. But now, powerful interests want to stop HCQ for economic and political reasons (especially corporate politicians and MSM), so the WHO conveniently decides to recommend halting all HCQ trials.

Gilead Sciences, lobbys, congressmen, Anti-Trump news editors all happy with this. Switch a cheap availablr drug that has some positive effect if administered early with right dosage, by a super expensive new antiviral still unavailable with little proved.

Disclaimer: I find Trump a calamity, but MSM shouldn’t have done medicine a way to attack him. Everything is highly suspicious.

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Stockholm Won't Reach Herd Immunity In May, Sweden's Chief Epidemiologist Admits
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/25/861923548/stockholm-wont-reach-herd-immunity-in-may-sweden-s-chief-epidemiologist-says

Sweden's controversial approach to fighting the coronavirus pandemic has so far failed to produce the expected results, and there are calls within the country for the government to change its strategy.

"We have a very vivid political debate," Karin Olofsdotter, Sweden's ambassador to the United States, told NPR. "I don't think people are protesting on the streets but ... there's a very big debate, if this [strategy] is the right thing to do or not, on Facebook and everywhere."

Ambassador Olofsdotter told NPR last month that the country's capital could reach herd immunity by the end of this month (May).

Unfortunately, Sweden's capital will not reach this milestone in May.

"No that will not happen," said Dr. Anders Tegnell, chief epidemiologist at Sweden's Public Health Agency, on Monday in an email to NPR. "Current investigations show different numbers, but [Stockholm's immunity rate] is likely lower [than 30%]. As you might be aware, there is a problem with measuring immunity for this virus."

... Sweden's Public Health Agency last week released the initial findings of an ongoing antibodies study that showed that only 7.3% of people in Stockholm had developed antibodies against COVID-19 by late April. Tegnell later described the study's figure as a "bit lower than we'd thought," adding that the study represented a snapshot of the situation some weeks ago and he believed that by now "a little more than 20%" of Stockholm's population should have contracted the virus.

It's the same figure that he mentioned in the CNBC interview over a month ago.

... With 39.26 deaths per 100,000, Sweden's mortality rate is not only higher than that of the U.S. (29.87 deaths per 100,000) but also exponentially higher than those of its neighbors Norway (4.42 per 100,000) and Finland (5.56 per 100,000), which both enacted strict lockdown measures, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.

Nearly half of the country's more than 4,000 COVID-19 deaths have occurred in elderly care facilities.

Even without a nationwide lockdown, the Sweden's economy has taken a hit as people continue to follow their government's guidelines and stay at home. Google records indicated that trips to retail and recreational destinations in Stockholm are down 23%, while passenger numbers on public transit declined 29% between March 28-May 9.

The central bank expects unemployment to rise from 6.8% to 10.1% and GDP to shrink by up to 9.7% this year as result of the pandemic.

Earlier this month, Tegnell admitted that he is not sure Sweden's strategy was the right call. "I'm not convinced at all - we are constantly thinking about this," he told Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet.
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Earlier this month, Tegnell admitted that he is not sure Sweden's strategy was the right call. "I'm not convinced at all - we are constantly thinking about this," he told Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet.

It isn't. They should stop meeting in closed buildings and mask up until daily cases are down to a few cases a day. then they return to what they have down, even less. That should be enough for at least summer.

Once temperatures drop the outdoors are not safe anymore but by then there might be enough medical tools to make the risk of death or injury insignificant.
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« Reply #6777 on: Today at 04:08:48 AM »
Closed environments facilitate secondary transmission of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.28.20029272v2

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The odds that a primary case transmitted COVID-19 in a closed environment was 18.7 times greater compared to an open-air environment (95% confidence interval [CI]: 6.0, 57.9). Conclusions: It is plausible that closed environments contribute to secondary transmission of COVID-19 and promote superspreading events. Our findings are also consistent with the declining incidence of COVID-19 cases in China, as gathering in closed environments was prohibited in the wake of the rapid spread of the disease.
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These repatriates wll blow up cases in south asia absent quarantine:

"Last week Pakistan complained to the UAE that half of those returning from that country had tested positive for COVID-19. Pakistan’s Special Adviser to the Prime Minister on National Security, Moeed Yusf, told reporters, “We’ve raised this diplomatically,” adding that “God willing” the problem “is being solved.” "

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/05/25/gulf-m25.html

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