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How many will die of Covid19 in the 2020s directly and indirectly

Less than 10,000
10 (14.7%)
10,000-100,000
9 (13.2%)
100,000-1,000,000
9 (13.2%)
One to ten million
13 (19.1%)
Ten to a hundred million
14 (20.6%)
Hundred million to one billion
9 (13.2%)
Over a billion
4 (5.9%)

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10500 on: December 31, 2020, 04:16:53 PM »
We are in a bit of a bind.  We know for certain that COVID-19 causes long term disability, but we have no idea if the "vaccine" would make this worse or not.

There's a large list of unknowns right now, and the vaccine simply adds another litany of unknowns to an already complicated situation.

Oh, and there's like 5 different "vaccines" now, which multiplies the complexity.

Again, though, think of those shareholders. :-*
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« Reply #10501 on: December 31, 2020, 04:32:35 PM »
Who are these "high-up people getting vaccines early? Most I have seen refer to targeting vulnerable, old and front line health care workers which seem appropriate priorities.

People like Pence. He is of no particular importance to protect, will leave office when he gets the second dose.

Or Rupert Murdoch, who pulled strings to get it.

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« Reply #10502 on: December 31, 2020, 05:10:10 PM »
Who are these "high-up people getting vaccines early? Most I have seen refer to targeting vulnerable, old and front line health care workers which seem appropriate priorities.

People like Pence. He is of no particular importance to protect, will leave office when he gets the second dose.

Or Rupert Murdoch, who pulled strings to get it.

Rupert Murdoch age 89 - not particularly early with UK starting Dec 8.
Pence is only 61 so yes that is early.

A few such people to send message that it is safe and worth having to encourage more people to take it perhaps isn't an unreasonable strategy choice?

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« Reply #10503 on: December 31, 2020, 05:43:41 PM »
It is rare, as I understand it, for vaccines to have long-term effects.

Of course, not impossible--there just are no totally risk free alternatives...in this case, or in life generally

(Wondering why anyone has to explain this on a forum presumably made up of mostly adults...)
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« Reply #10504 on: December 31, 2020, 06:08:53 PM »
Here is a Texas antivax site on Facebook

https://m.facebook.com/TexansForVaccineChoice/posts/

This is a political action committee site so not at radical as what I am seeing in the murkier realms of the internet.
But it looks like there may be enough antivax problems to cut into herd immunity . So if the US fails how will other countries that succeed deal with perpetual carrier countries like we may become ?

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« Reply #10505 on: December 31, 2020, 06:14:05 PM »
It is the mRNA thing I am thinking...this is not a "normal" vaccine, it is a whole new type. If it were just like other vaccines, well, we have a good track record with that. But this is uncharted waters.
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« Reply #10506 on: December 31, 2020, 06:18:16 PM »
Guinea Uses Russian COVID-19 Vaccine On Officials
https://apnews.com/article/cabinets-health-guinea-coronavirus-pandemic-africa-de2adf7f939e1bb3eeedcd25aa6c4aa4

CONAKRY, Guinea (AP) — Guinea began vaccinating against COVID-19 with the Russian Sputnik V vaccine on an experimental basis, starting with government officials, authorities said Thursday.

Guinea has ordered only 55 doses of the Russian vaccine, said Dr. Sakoba Keita, the director-general of the National Health Security Agency.

“We requested a small quantity of the vaccine, 55 doses precisely. This is the beginning of an order,” Keita said. “Yesterday we vaccinated in this pilot phase 25 senior officials of the state. There are 30 doses left and we will continue with the vaccination.”

The Minister of Defense, Mohamed Diane was the first to receive the vaccine. He was shown getting the inoculation on national TV followed by other Cabinet ministers receiving the shots on Wednesday.

... “We hope that this vaccination will be extended to the rest of the people and that it will be the beginning of the eradication of this disease.”

They did not, however, indicate how many doses would be ordered for the general population or when they would be vaccinated.

Russia has businesses in the West African nation and Guinea is known for its bauxite mining.

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« Reply #10507 on: December 31, 2020, 06:21:38 PM »
On "Higher Ups".

Say 600, US house of Reps, Senate, Cabinet members.

As much as I despise Sen Joni Ernst (IowA) and her troglodytic Trumpian machinations, I am glad she got vaccinated, it will hopefully limit some of her future fulsome lies.   It also highlights her past forked tongue statements .   If another 1000 people who would have not are vaccinated, that is good.

61 y.o Pence.   Well, it might help the secret service detail to not get sick.   And he is a fervent anti-abortionist, he will not be able to blather on about m-RNA's and stem cells ( I do not know if he does, but many anti-abortionists argue this).    If 10,000 get vaccinated later because he did, all is well and good.

Thousands, tens of thousands of Aboriginal and Latina women were sterilized in decades past.  Pansy was Lakota, she got into a car when she was 14 with 2 16 year olds.   She was sterilized.   That pain never goes away.  There is a deep residual reluctance to trust the "Wasi'chu" medicine among the Lakota and other Aborigianals and also Latino's    I am grateful for AOC -Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who is the youngest US senator getting vaccinated.   If 10,000 follow her lead who would not have, all is well and good. 

The high muckety mucks in finance, chairmans of the board, etc, yes, they should wait in line.   

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« Reply #10508 on: December 31, 2020, 06:22:00 PM »

But it looks like there may be enough antivax problems to cut into herd immunity . So if the US fails how will other countries that succeed deal with perpetual carrier countries like we may become ?


Mainly must have vaccine or recent negative test to travel from high risk to low risk country.

High risk countries still get to herd immunity in a few more months, it just that more of the 85% is reached through having had covid rather than by having vaccine.

UK and SA variants are out there, and judging by todays numbers English tier 4 lockdown isn't enough and enough further measures to get R under 1 seems a dwindling rose tinted possibility.

Once it is much clearer that 85% of non vaccinated people are going to get covid then perhaps numbers of antivaxxers will fall?

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« Reply #10509 on: December 31, 2020, 07:32:42 PM »
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

UK
Three days in a row of +50k new reported cases
Last two days deaths just under 1,000.

The most successful vaccine rollout and the most rigorous lockdown rules can't stop a lousy start to 2021.

Italy
Unfortunately signs of Italy going backwards
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« Reply #10510 on: December 31, 2020, 08:58:45 PM »
Research into cats and dogs infected by their owners.
They tested the pets for antibodies.

144 cats 28 positives or 19%
149 dogs 20 or 14%

https://www.nu.nl/coronavirus/6099653/een-op-de-vijf-katten-raakt-besmet-bij-coronageval-binnen-huishouden.html
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« Reply #10511 on: December 31, 2020, 10:28:10 PM »

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« Reply #10512 on: December 31, 2020, 11:08:19 PM »
It´s more about the population. One in four have doubts which is actually a huge number.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10513 on: January 01, 2021, 12:48:16 AM »
42 People Given Treatment Instead of Vaccine in West Virginia
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/31/west-virginia-mistakenly-gives-42-peoplegiven-regeneron-iv-covid-treatment-instead-of-vaccine-shot-west-virginia-national-guard-says-.html

Dozens of people in West Virginia were mistakenly given Regeneron’s Covid-19 antibody treatment instead of the Moderna vaccine, the West Virginia National Guard said.

The 42 people who received the antibody treatment instead of the vaccine have been contacted, Julie Miller, an administrator for the Boone County Health Department, told CNBC by email. She added that “we do not believe there is any risk of harm.”

The mix-up occurred at a clinic in the Boone County Health Department, Miller said.

“It has been determined that this was an isolated incident,” Miller said, but did not provide details on how the mistake occurred. “All of the affected individuals will be offered the COVID-19 vaccine today.”

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Former Wisconsin Hospital Worker Arrested for Intentional Sabotage of Over 500 Coronavirus Vaccine Doses
https://time.com/5925648/wisconsin-employee-fires-spoiling-covid-19-vaccine/
https://www.facebook.com/GPD53024/photos/pcb.825157424714555/825157164714581/

GRAFTON, Wis. — A former Wisconsin hospital worker was arrested on Thursday afternoon after telling authorities he intentionally removed 500 COViD-19 vaccines from the refrigerator at Aurora Medical Center in Grafton.

The Grafton Police Department announced the arrest in a news release, but did not provide the name of the pharmacist arrested. He is currently being held in the Ozaukee County Jail and faces tentative charges of recklessly endangering safety, altering a prescription drug and criminal damage to property. The pharmacist is a resident of Grafton, according to the release.

An internal investigation led the center to initially believe that the action was caused by “inadvertent human error” until the employee admitted Wednesday that they had deliberately sabotaged the vials.

Grafton Police said Wednesday that the incident was being “actively investigated” by the department, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Food & Drug Administration. The department declined to comment further Thursday morning.

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« Reply #10514 on: January 01, 2021, 01:06:03 AM »
Bodies Pile Up, Patient Care Falters as Covid-19 Devastates LA County Hospitals
https://triblive.com/news/world/bodies-pile-up-patient-care-falters-as-covid-19-devastates-la-county-hospitals/

... “No one would believe this is in the United States,” said Scott Byington, a critical care nurse at St. Francis Medical Center in Lynwood. “Everyone is doing what they can do. It’s not that anybody is slacking. It’s just that it’s too overwhelming for everyone.”

Hospital morgues are so full that the National Guard is being called in to help county workers as corpses are moved into storage at the L.A. County Department of the Medical Examiner-Coroner. The overcrowded crypts at hospitals are a result of private mortuaries running out of space and staff to handle the unprecedented number of covid-19 deaths.

... Los Angeles County on Wednesday tallied its 10,000th covid-19 death. On the same day, it recorded 262 deaths, breaking the single-day record for covid-19 deaths for the second day in a row. L.A. County is now averaging about 129 covid-19 deaths a day over the past week, a figure that has never been higher.

While officials have not provided details on patients who suffered because resources were not available, it’s clear the crisis is taking a terrible toll on care.

Dr. Christina Ghaly, the L.A. County health services director, said Wednesday,

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... “There have been some unfortunate outcomes from patients in hospitals and ambulances across the county who couldn’t be offloaded into an emergency department in a timely manner.”

County officials have been concerned about patients suffering from things such as strokes, heart attacks and seizures waiting in ambulances outside hospitals, said Cathy Chidester, director of the county Emergency Medical Services Agency. “The early intervention, in some of these cases if you don’t get it, may lead to worse outcomes,” she said.

The crush of patients has led the county to allow certain types of ambulance patients to be offloaded into the waiting room instead of the emergency room, according to memos issued by the EMS agency.

Additionally, 911 patients who have a do-not-resuscitate directive will not be taken to acute-care facilities such as a hospital, nor will certain trauma patients whose hearts have stopped.

The agency is also allowing emergency medical service providers to decline to take low-risk patients to hospitals with mild respiratory illnesses.

At St. Francis, a backed-up intensive care unit has made the emergency room a landing spot for people who under normal circumstances would be admitted to the ICU, including covid-19 patients on ventilators. The hallways of the ER are lined with sick patients. The part of the hospital where gunshot and car accident victims are typically triaged is also often packed with people infected with the coronavirus.

On a recent shift, Byington, the critical care nurse at St. Francis Medical Center, cared for 12 patients in crisis. On the overhead speakers, he heard near-constant calls of rapid response and Code Blues as patients crashed.

“I’m upstairs in a covid room, he’s coding, and then I go downstairs to a covid room, he’s coding, and then there’s a problem and I go back and forth and back and forth,” he said. “It’s all night long — it’s crazy.”

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Watching covid-19 patients suffer is horrifying. Their eyes widen with panic as they struggle to take in enough oxygen and gasp for breath. It is a process much like suffocation.

“You hope for some of these patients who are not going to survive, that they actually become unconscious before this, because it’s very scary,” Byington said. “It’s no different than probably drowning.”

On a recent shift, there were more than 40 patients in the telemetry units — some with heart attacks and others with covid-19 — but staff couldn’t find technicians to watch their heart monitors, because employees also have fallen sick with COVID.

Some nurses and doctors have been hospitalized with severe cases of the disease, he said.

Hospital staff are also dealing with non-covid patients in crisis who have put off urgent medical care for fear of contracting the coronavirus at the hospital. A patient might have had shortness of breath and chest pain for a few days, but doesn’t come into the hospital for treatment for a heart attack until it’s nearly too late, Byington said.

“We had a lady who walked in and had a stroke in the lobby,” he said.

On a recent shift, seven patients died in the hospital within six hours, Byington said. The hospital morgue is often at capacity. There have been patients passing away who were in their 20s and 30s, he said. Recently, a sick patient was cared for in the ER hallway because there was no more space in the hospital.

The patient could not be saved, and died there, Byington said.

“When it came time for them to pass, they passed in the hallway.”

Byington, who has worked at the hospital for nearly 30 years, said medical staff are trying as hard as they can. The situation is equally bleak at other nearby hospitals, he said.

“They give 110% and come back the next day to start all over,” Byington added. “It’s like a MASH unit, everywhere in the hospital. This is a situation where people come in and it’s like rolling the dice.”

At different times, the hospital has run out of high-flow oxygen as well as BiPap machines, a mask that helps push oxygen into the lungs, often a last resort before placing ill patients on a ventilator.

The choices are often grim. A patient might require a BiPap machine, and there may be only one left, just surrendered by a patient who died, Byington said. Once the machine is given to the patient in need, it could be just minutes before another might need one — but there aren’t any left.

“You have to pick and choose,” he said. “That’s where we really are — we’re really at that point.”

That sentiment was shared by medical professionals across the region, who fear that as bad as the conditions are now, they would get worse.

“I have never been in the position in my career where I couldn’t offer lifesaving care to someone who needed it,” said Dr. Marc Futernick, a Los Angeles emergency room physician who also serves as regional medical director of VEP Healthcare. “That is literally what we are talking about. If there is no space, no ventilator and no oxygen. … We are going to have to sit on our hands. Just saying it out loud, it is so frightening. None of us want to face that.”

At Greater El Monte Community Hospital, staffers were trying to squeeze as much space as possible out of the small facility but conditions were becoming increasingly difficult.

“The chatter you hear … is very grim,” said Dr. Victor Lange, the hospital’s clinical epidemiologist and director of quality and risk management. “It’s pretty common to see someone crying in the hallway.”

While both California and L.A. County have seen some easing in the net daily increase of ICU patients with covid-19 — probably related to the stay-at-home order that began rolling out across the state on Dec. 6 — L.A. County is seeing less relief than other parts of the state.

At its peak in mid-December, L.A. County was averaging a net daily increase of 44 ICU patients for covid-19; by Tuesday, L.A. County was averaging a net additional 35 ICU patients every day over the past week.

The rate at which coronavirus test results are coming back positive continues to climb. The daily positivity rate is now at 20% — five times worse than the comparable figure from Nov. 1, when the rate was less than 4%.

“And we’re not even accounting for the incoming Christmas surge,” said L.A. County Supervisor Hilda Solis. “From what we saw with so many people who attended gatherings and travels, we remain very concerned about another surge on top of the current surge.”

Guard troops are stationed at 13 medical facilities in the state, including Adventist Health White Memorial in Los Angeles, Methodist Hospital of Southern California in Arcadia and Pacifica Hospital of the Valley in Sun Valley.

“It’s such a grim reality,” Solis said.

But she added: “Please don’t give up. Widespread access to the vaccine, as we know, is coming in a matter of months. And don’t be a casualty to this pandemic.”

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... LA patient population is expected to double in the next 3 weeks
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« Reply #10515 on: January 01, 2021, 01:08:20 AM »
42 People Given Treatment Instead of Vaccine in West Virginia
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/31/west-virginia-mistakenly-gives-42-peoplegiven-regeneron-iv-covid-treatment-instead-of-vaccine-shot-west-virginia-national-guard-says-.html

“It has been determined that this was an isolated incident,” Miller said, but did not provide details on how the mistake occurred. “All of the affected individuals will be offered the COVID-19 vaccine today.”
 

That is concerning. Is that the US army injecting just random stuff into people?

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« Reply #10516 on: January 01, 2021, 01:16:39 AM »
It's West Virginia - literacy is optional.  :-\
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« Reply #10517 on: January 01, 2021, 06:32:53 AM »
No doubt it’s all over the US.  Florida could be in for ICU crisis experience later in Jan/Feb.  17k new cases today, local testing sites here in the Tampa area are mobbed.  Vaccine rollout is going very slow and is chaotic in some areas.  And lots of gatherings and circulating droplets tonight that will feed the fire.

Florida confirms state’s first case of the U.K. COVID-19 variant.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article248212635.html#storylink=cpy




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« Reply #10518 on: January 01, 2021, 07:27:33 AM »
News media are really missing the primary threat from the new variant - driving exponential spread, and therefore making the pandemic more deadly in aggregate. 

Most people will shrug their shoulders after processing the “it’s not more deadly” and “vaccines will still be effective” analysis.

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« Reply #10519 on: January 01, 2021, 08:53:14 AM »
The Mutated Virus Is a Ticking Time Bomb
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/617531/

There is much we don’t know about the new COVID-19 variant—now called B.1.1.7—but everything we know so far suggests a huge danger.

Increased transmissibility can wreak havoc in a very, very short time—especially when we already have uncontrolled spread in much of the United States.   

... A more transmissible variant of COVID-19 is a potential catastrophe in and of itself
. If anything, given the stage in the pandemic we are at, a more transmissible variant is in some ways much more dangerous than a more severe variant. That’s because higher transmissibility subjects us to a more contagious virus spreading with exponential growth, whereas the risk from increased severity would have increased in a linear manner, affecting only those infected.

To understand the difference between exponential and linear risks, consider an example put forth by Adam Kucharski, a professor at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine who focuses on mathematical analyses of infectious-disease outbreaks. Kucharski compares a 50 percent increase in virus lethality to a 50 percent increase in virus transmissibility. Take a virus reproduction rate of about 1.1 and an infection fatality risk of 0.8 percent and imagine 10,000 active infections—a plausible scenario for many European cities, as Kucharski notes. As things stand, with those numbers, we’d expect 129 deaths in a month. If the fatality rate increased by 50 percent, that would lead to 193 deaths.

In contrast, a 50 percent increase in transmissibility would lead to a whopping 978 deaths in just one month—assuming, in both scenarios, a six-day infection-generation time.


https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1343567425107881986

... Trevor Bedford, a scientist at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and a board member for the Covid Tracking Project, also notes that this new variant seems to have a higher secondary-attack rate—meaning the number of people subsequently infected by a known case—compared with “regular” COVID-19.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/948152/Technical_Briefing_VOC202012-2_Briefing_2_FINAL.pdf

... Given that this new variant is already here in America, are we too late? ... The United States does not have extensive genomic surveillance, or a rapid turnaround with what surveillance it has, so in some ways, we are flying without a map. We have some indications that the variant is—so far—probably relatively rare in the United States.

This could, of course, change extremely quickly, before we can even detect that change, but that highlights the importance of early action.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.02209

... “delaying cases has always been valuable, but right now it is especially valuable. Buying even a bit of time to ramp up vaccination could avert a great deal of mortality and morbidity.”

... If cases are growing from a very large base number, however, that means the state of the world is changing very quickly, so small mistakes are magnified. ... “You can’t finesse the steep part of an exponential.”

How we react in the next few weeks will matter immensely.

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In the UK ...

We fitted a mathematical model to the growth of VOC 202012/01 in these three regions of England. If current trends continue, the new variant could represent 90% of cases by mid-January.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_nickdavies/status/1341845180983488514



We project the potential impact of the spread of this new variant throughout England and look at possible control policies. Achieving 2 million vaccinations/week could substantially reduce the burden. 200,000 vaccinations/week does not have much impact



... The most chilling finding from this piece of research is that the November lockdown in England, hard though it was for many people, would not have stopped the variant form of the virus spreading. The same severe restrictions that saw cases of the previous version of the virus fall by a third, would see a tripling of the new variant. This is why there has been such a sudden tightening of restrictions across the country.

It is unclear whether the current restrictions will be enough to control the spread of the virus. Given the fact that it has taken two lockdowns to stop the earlier version of the virus overwhelming the NHS, many scientists fear that further tightening will be necessary.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55507012

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« Reply #10520 on: January 01, 2021, 09:22:37 AM »
Long Lines for Vaccinations at Tennessee Riverpark Following Eligibility Expansions
https://newschannel9.com/amp/news/local/long-lines-for-vaccinations-at-tennessee-riverpark-following-eligibility-expansions

Video at link: https://mobile.twitter.com/OnAirWithEryn/status/1344653946896478208

Today is the first day that those 75 years old and older can get their vaccine.

WHAT A LINE: I propped my phone up on my dash to take this time lapse of Amnicola Hwy right now where it is entirely backed up with people waiting in line to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

4 miles and counting

Lines went past Chattanooga State along Amnicola Highway, all the way to Highway 153, backing up traffic for miles.

Just before 10:30 a.m. Thursday, the Health Department tweeted that they were cutting the line off at the Amnicola Highway/Highway 153 intersection. They're asking people past that point to leave the line and come back at a later time.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChattanoogaPD/status/1344666829105586176

TRAFFIC ALERT: Major traffic backup to
@HamiltonHealth #COVID19 vaccine site at TN Riverpark. Amnicola SB right lane is vaccination only. Left lane must remain open to thru traffic & emergency vehicles. Traffic currently backed up over dam. (1/2)

The Hamilton County health department says they administered 1,158 doses of the Pfizer vaccine on Friday.  They also asked for patience as they work through distribution.

1,158 down; 180,000 to go
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« Reply #10522 on: January 01, 2021, 01:55:57 PM »
NIH Study Uncovers Blood Vessel Damage And Inflammation In COVID-19 Patients’ Brains But No Infection

Results from a study of 19 deceased patients suggests brain damage is a byproduct of a patient’s illness.

In an in-depth study of how COVID-19 affects a patient’s brain, National Institutes of Health researchers consistently spotted hallmarks of damage caused by thinning and leaky brain blood vessels in tissue samples from patients who died shortly after contracting the disease. In addition, they saw no signs of SARS-CoV-2 in the tissue samples, suggesting the damage was not caused by a direct viral attack on the brain. The results were published as a correspondence in the New England Journal of Medicine.

“We found that the brains of patients who contract infection from SARS-CoV-2 may be susceptible to microvascular blood vessel damage. Our results suggest that this may be caused by the body’s inflammatory response to the virus” said Avindra Nath, M.D., clinical director at the NIH’s National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS) and the senior author of the study. “We hope these results will help doctors understand the full spectrum of problems patients may suffer so that we can come up with better treatments.”

Although COVID-19 is primarily a respiratory disease, patients often experience neurological problems including headaches, delirium, cognitive dysfunction, dizziness, fatigue, and loss of the sense of smell. The disease may also cause patients to suffer strokes and other neuropathologies.

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Initially, the researchers used a special, high-powered magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scanner that is 4 to 10 times more sensitive than most MRI scanners, to examine samples of the olfactory bulbs and brainstems from each patient. These regions are thought to be highly susceptible to COVID-19. Olfactory bulbs control our sense of smell while the brainstem controls our breathing and heart rate. The scans revealed that both regions had an abundance of bright spots, called hyperintensities, that often indicate inflammation, and dark spots, called hypointensities, that represent bleeding.

The researchers then used the scans as a guide to examine the spots more closely under a microscope. They found that the bright spots contained blood vessels that were thinner than normal and sometimes leaking blood proteins, like fibrinogen, into the brain. This appeared to trigger an immune reaction. The spots were surrounded by T cells from the blood and the brain’s own immune cells called microglia. In contrast, the dark spots contained both clotted and leaky blood vessels but no immune response.

“We were completely surprised. Originally, we expected to see damage that is caused by a lack of oxygen. Instead, we saw multifocal areas of damage that is usually associated with strokes and neuroinflammatory diseases,” said Dr. Nath.

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https://scienceblog.com/520250/nih-study-uncovers-blood-vessel-damage-and-inflammation-in-covid-19-patients-brains-but-no-infection
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« Reply #10523 on: January 01, 2021, 02:45:14 PM »
New Coronavirus Variant May Have Been In US Since October
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/01/now-coronavirus-variant-us-since-october

... Results are expected within days but the revelations have prompted fresh questions about where the altered virus originated, including a small possibility that it began in the US, not the UK, or elsewhere altogether. The variant has also been found in at least 17 countries, including South Korea, Spain, Australia and Canada.

To investigate, scientists at the California-based DNA testing company Helix examined the prevalence of S gene dropout among 2 million of the Covid tests the company has processed in recent months. They observed an increase in S gene dropout among positive samples since early October, when 0.25% of positive tests exhibited this pattern.

This has since grown, hitting 0.5% on average last week – although in Massachusetts, which has the highest number of such samples, it currently stands at 1.85%, although no cases of the B117 variant have been announced in that state yet.

Further analysis revealed mutations in some of the same regions of the S gene which are also present in the B117 variant – although full sequencing of the viral genome is needed to confirm whether this is indeed the same variant, or something else.

The coronavirus pandemic is out of control in the US, with the death toll in 24 hours of more than 3,740 earlier this week signifying the worst day of the outbreak in the nation yet.

Helix is currently working with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as it awaits test results on the variant found in the US.

Even if the variant identified by Helix isn’t B117, the nature of some of the mutations it contains are concerning, because they may increase the virus’s ability to infect human cells, added Ravi Gupta, a professor of clinical microbiology at the University of Cambridge, UK, who helped sequence the B117 variant.

... It is possible that the variant originated in the US and then spread to the UK – although this is unlikely, given that the B117 variant appears to be more prevalent in England, Topol said. “However, I don’t think it should be known as the UK variant because we don’t know where it came from.”

If B117 really is widely established in the US, then travel bans are unlikely to work, Topol added: “The variant is likely to become dominant [within the US] in the next few months, so what we need to do is to outrun it through a combination of really tight mitigation measures, including surveillance and testing, and vaccinating like there’s no tomorrow,” he said. “The vaccines should work fine.”

S gene dropout patterns in SARS-CoV-2 tests suggest spread of the H69del/V70del mutation in the US
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.24.20248814v1.full.pdf


Values indicate percent of positive tests with S gene dropout. To ensure that low sample sizes do not skew frequencies, only states with more than 1,000 SARS-CoV-2 positive tests are shown. (Additional states with S gene dropout, but with <1K positives in our dataset thus far are: AL, ME, NH, NY, RI, VA.) States with insufficient data are shown in gray.

https://blog.helix.com/sars-cov2_uk-variant/

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... meanwhile, Trump is actively sabotaging every tool the incoming administration needs to fight the virus.
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« Reply #10524 on: January 01, 2021, 04:45:23 PM »
at the current rate of vaccination , there will be no tomorrow for a lot of folk .
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« Reply #10525 on: January 01, 2021, 06:58:40 PM »
Microvascular Injury in the Brains of Patients with Covid-19

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMc2033369?articleTools=true

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In a convenience sample of patients who had
died from Covid-19, multifocal microvascular
injury was observed in the brain and olfactory
bulbs by means of magnetic resonance microscopy, histopathological evaluation, and immunohistochemical analysis of corresponding sections,
without evidence of viral infection. These findings may inform the interpretation of changes
observed on magnetic resonance imaging of
punctate hyperintensities and linear hypointensities in patients with Covid-19.
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« Reply #10526 on: January 01, 2021, 11:39:32 PM »

The NIH NIAID with Fauci as head provided various grants to Ecohealth Alliance that funded Wuhan lab research on coronavirus “gain of function”, 2015-20. The grant records are public and still out there:

https://grantome.com/grant/NIH/R01-AI110964-06

Why Wuhan? Why gain of function? Good questions for that pathological liar named Fauci.
Fauci is a State guy, implying the worst in that sentence.

Jimmy Dore “unmasking” Anthony Fauxi bullcrap just Today, this time about herd immunity, like only Dore does.



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« Reply #10527 on: January 02, 2021, 12:44:58 AM »
James Annan had amended his model to account for declining fatality rate as a result of vaccine.

It now projects 120k UK deaths in first 3 months of 2021! (~150% of deaths so far (either 74k on within 28 days of positive test basis or 82k for covid on death certificate to 18th Dec))

https://twitter.com/jamesannan/status/1345081556747096064

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« Reply #10528 on: January 02, 2021, 12:46:07 AM »
In previous posts, I linked a number of studies on the gain of function research that the Chinese communist party was funding in Wuhan.  They were specifically studying coronaviruses in bats.  Only in Wuhan, no where else in China.

The Obama administration actually blocked the Chinese from conducting this experimental research on coronaviruses.  Then, we know who got elected, and the restrictions were lifted.

Incompetence comes in many forms.  Sometimes easing restrictions can backfire...

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« Reply #10529 on: January 02, 2021, 01:12:03 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000qnht  at 2:29:40, a London nurse tells about wards full of children with covid.

The nurse is Laura Duffell, she is on Twitter.

The NHS does not allow staff to talk with journalists, so I suppose that she is in trouble now.

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« Reply #10530 on: January 02, 2021, 02:16:43 AM »


Jimmy Dore “unmasking” Anthony Fauxi bullcrap just Today, this time about herd immunity, like only Dore does.


I'm suppose to take some hack comedian seriously about Fauci? This guys got the same kind of schtick that Rush Limbaugh has. Please don't clutter up this thread with crap like this.

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« Reply #10531 on: January 02, 2021, 03:00:03 AM »
The local Health Dept. phoned about an hour ago giving us (wife and me) appointments to receive our first Moderna vaccination shot, tomorrow mid-day.
:)

The nurse, working at 8 pm on New Year's Day, chuckled when I answered the phone (not knowing who it was) with a cheery "Happy New Year!"

Forecast is for rain all day, maybe some lightning, so appointments could get cancelled...
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« Reply #10532 on: January 02, 2021, 05:09:19 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000qnht  at 2:29:40, a London nurse tells about wards full of children with covid.

The nurse is Laura Duffell, she is on Twitter.

The NHS does not allow staff to talk with journalists, so I suppose that she is in trouble now.

What fraction of these children are getting brain damage?

Is this the polio of the 21st century?
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« Reply #10533 on: January 02, 2021, 08:49:55 AM »
The local Health Dept. phoned about an hour ago giving us (wife and me) appointments to receive our first Moderna vaccination shot, tomorrow mid-day.
:)

The nurse, working at 8 pm on New Year's Day, chuckled when I answered the phone (not knowing who it was) with a cheery "Happy New Year!"

Forecast is for rain all day, maybe some lightning, so appointments could get cancelled...
 :-\

Didn't know that rain or lightning made vaccination impossible. In my country they usually administer it indoors
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« Reply #10534 on: January 02, 2021, 08:59:12 AM »
Having hundreds of people congregate indoors may present a super spreader opportunity....

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St. Johns County residents camp out overnight to get vaccine on Saturday
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2021/01/02/st-johns-county-residents-camp-out-overnight-to-get-vaccine-on-saturday/?outputType=amp

ST. JOHNS COUNTY, Fla. – COVID-19 vaccines are going fast in St. Johns County.

The vaccine is for healthcare workers and people 65 and older and the health department is distributing vaccines throughout the weekend. The county is now assisting the health department with the distribution.

On Friday night before 9 p.m., people were already waiting in line to get the vaccine Saturday morning.

Officials say 340 people got the vaccine in St. Johns County on Friday and those in line Friday night said they want to make sure they also get theirs.

... Earlier in the day, long lines of cars waited outside the health department for the second day in a row. Health officials said the day’s supply of COVID-19 vaccines were gone in 2 and half hours.

Licensed Clinical Social worker Ambria Page, says she got the vaccine after waiting for seven hours.

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Hundreds of thousands more US Covid deaths possible amid vaccine chaos
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/02/hundreds-thousands-more-us-covid-deaths-likely-vaccine-delay

... Terry Beth Hadler, 69, queued up in a parking lot overnight with hundreds of others outside the Bonita Springs library in south-west Florida.

She waited 14 hours, and told the Associated Press that a fight almost broke out before daybreak on Tuesday, when some people cut in line.

“I’m afraid that the event was a super-spreader, I was petrified,” Hadler said.

Near Miami, seniors overwhelmed phone lines and a health department website in an often futile attempt to get vaccination appointments, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/coronavirus/fl-ne-ron-desantis-kings-point-delray-20201230-nfr6dbaae5bexiqqy6tln7ytta-story.html
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« Reply #10535 on: January 02, 2021, 09:30:59 AM »
Australia verse Covid

Sydney has had a cluster outbreak that just keeps of sputtering along. The State Premier is resistant to putting in the rules that would stop it entirely and only does it in the last minute.
For example, the New Year fireworks across the harbour bridge was only cancelled a few days before hand because people were complaining.
There is an International cricket match to be held there soon, she isn't cancelling it... 20K people all together.
She has been strict with lockdowns, more like strongly worded suggestions, which led people to leave the cluster regions to visit Melbourne, who is now getting its own Sydney fed cluster as well.

This recent outbreak is producing 15 to 30 cases a day for two weeks now, and with Sydney siders having filled malls to do Christmas shopping, I am wondering how long the luck will last in Sydney.... it is beginning to give me the feeling next week will see numbers increase a fair bit in Sydney.

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« Reply #10536 on: January 02, 2021, 01:15:45 PM »
Australia verse Covid

Sydney has had a cluster outbreak that just keeps of sputtering along. The State Premier is resistant to putting in the rules that would stop it entirely and only does it in the last minute.
For example, the New Year fireworks across the harbour bridge was only cancelled a few days before hand because people were complaining.
There is an International cricket match to be held there soon, she isn't cancelling it... 20K people all together.
She has been strict with lockdowns, more like strongly worded suggestions, which led people to leave the cluster regions to visit Melbourne, who is now getting its own Sydney fed cluster as well.

This recent outbreak is producing 15 to 30 cases a day for two weeks now, and with Sydney siders having filled malls to do Christmas shopping, I am wondering how long the luck will last in Sydney.... it is beginning to give me the feeling next week will see numbers increase a fair bit in Sydney.

Sounds like Luxembourg last summer, very few cases after the lockdown. It was summer so it was easy to control, and than it was much harder to organize a second lockdown in the fall.

Numbers have been going down quite a lot, it must be a mix between the closing of the restaurants and pubs, partial closing of schools then Christmas holidays, and people being abroad for the Christmas holidays, we are lucky that people not worried about Covid are in Spain, Portugal... for two weeks. The government was smart enough to organize one week of distance teaching after the holidays.

In red, the number of people in ICU, in black, the cumulative death cases, and in blue the positive tests and 7 days average.

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« Reply #10537 on: January 02, 2021, 07:14:55 PM »
Long Lines as Florida's COVID Vaccination Drive Picks Up Pace
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-01-lines-florida-covid-vaccination-pace.html

The lines are endless and hospital telephones are ringing off the hook since coronavirus vaccines became available this week for the elderly in retiree-rich Florida.

The state government gave the green light Monday for inoculating those aged 65 and above—a group that makes up nearly 20 percent of the Sunshine State's population, the largest such proportion in America.

So ever since, it has been mayhem, as tens of thousands try to get a shot they hope will protect them against the potentially deadly COVID-19.

The COVID vaccine supply is limited," Gov.  DeSantis told a press conference on Wednesday in a retirement community in Palm Beach.

"We don't have enough vaccine on hand for all four million-plus senior citizens. We will get there."

... The Jackson Health System said that this week, it hopes to vaccinate 10,000 of its 65-plus patients and individuals at high risk due to pre-existing conditions.

North of Miami, in Fort Lauderdale, Broward Health got such a flood of calls that it said its appointments for vaccinations are now filled up until February.

The Broward County webpage for making a vaccination appointment has been down since Wednesday.


Things are just as frantic in central Florida: in Orange County, which includes Orlando, home to Disney World, officials said they have scheduled 30,000 vaccinations and can make no more appointments for now.

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Only 1st 600 In Line Today Will Get COVID-19 Vaccine In St. Johns County
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2021/01/02/st-johns-county-residents-camp-out-overnight-to-get-vaccine-on-saturday/?outputType=amp

Hundreds camped out in cars overnight; line at sunrise Saturday morning stretched 3 miles

They announced just before 9 a.m. Saturday that the first 600 people in line today will be able to get vaccines. Everyone else will be turned away.


After people were turned away when Friday’s allocation was gone before noon, people hoping to get shots on Saturday began lining up in their vehicles on Friday evening. Some people even brought RVs.

A woman in line overnight told News4Jax deputies were called when people started cutting into the line. By dawn, there were hundreds of cars in line outside the St. Johns County Health Department -- backing up about three miles along U.S. 1. New4Jax was told before 8 a.m. the Sheriff’s Office was planning to send deputies to make sure the travel lanes are not blocked and help manage the situation.

The health department originally was taking vaccine appointments, but when their phone line crashed, they no longer required appointments, creating frustration and long lines.
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« Reply #10538 on: January 02, 2021, 08:38:38 PM »
The local Health Dept. phoned about an hour ago giving us (wife and me) appointments to receive our first Moderna vaccination shot, tomorrow mid-day.
:)

The nurse, working at 8 pm on New Year's Day, chuckled when I answered the phone (not knowing who it was) with a cheery "Happy New Year!"

Forecast is for rain all day, maybe some lightning, so appointments could get cancelled...
 :-\

Didn't know that rain or lightning made vaccination impossible. In my country they usually administer it indoors
 :):):)
It has been raining, sometimes heavy, all day, with occasional thunder (but no thunder while at/near the Health Dept. site).

The vaccination process went very smoothly:  the first check-in (making sure we had appointments) was on the side of the 'main' road, the checkers in raincoats and hoods.  The 'confirm our paperwork was in order' (twice, I presume the 2nd stop was for those whose 1st stop showed deficient paperwork) were also outside, only along a winding 'driveway'.  The actually shots, through the (open) car windows, was in a drive through fire department garage.  After the shot, we were directed to 'follow the traffic cones' to a waiting area (a parking lot coned off into lanes, similar to waiting lanes for a large automobile ferryboat) - they wanted us to wait 15 minutes in case we had a reaction to the vaccine; the observers were walking back and forth in rain gear.  As the route we drove was circuitous, there were several individuals, often with umbrellas, at strategic points pointing the way.

From the first check point to our release from observation was about 25 minutes.

So a cancellation due to lightning certainly would have made sense.  Now, what will the weather be in 28 days?    :-\
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« Reply #10539 on: January 03, 2021, 01:19:32 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000qnht  at 2:29:40, a London nurse tells about wards full of children with covid.

The nurse is Laura Duffell, she is on Twitter.

The NHS does not allow staff to talk with journalists, so I suppose that she is in trouble now.

What fraction of these children are getting brain damage?

Is this the polio of the 21st century?

No, this is not polio. It is mostly old people that are affected.

A very small proportion of children needs hospitalization. But it seems to be a bit higher than in the first wave. Maybe twice as often?
https://twitter.com/Datagraver/status/1345126498227912713

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« Reply #10540 on: January 03, 2021, 02:18:30 AM »
Australia

Sydney
At this point the Cricket Test is going ahead. This is stupid, and explain why I need to explain a cricket test. It isn't a normal sporting event of a few hours. It lasts 8 eights per day, for 5 days in a row. There will be 20,000 per day at the event. Last time I checked masks were optional.
Classic case of politics says it is perfectly safe and jobs matter verse experts saying no spectators and the risk is too high
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/dec/31/nsw-government-stands-by-sydney-cricket-test-as-calls-to-ban-spectators-intensify

Another potential issue is a person working in hotel quaretine caught Covid then worked his second job for one week while infectious. 4 days, 8 hours per shift. Transmissions have been found, more are expected.

Masks still optional...... surely the luck of Sydney is going to run out?

Melbourne
Sydney infected us, it is spreading and we are back to community transmissions, currently all have been traced to each other.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-03/victoria-coronavirus-cases-rise-by-three-testing-continues/13028344

New strain
Most days of the week we are getting announcements of the new strain popping up in returning citizens. So far, no escapes, but once or twice a week some random returnee decides to make a run for it..... it is just a matter of time before we have it here as well.

I am confused about how people can see what is happening in covid ridden countries and then look at our freedom of it (for the most part) and treat it like it doesn't matter. Ultimately, Covid will make another break for it in Australia simply because people will let it back it. Not from a lack of trying to stop it.

I hope there are enough people here who take the vaccine... but I suspect it wont be enough.

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« Reply #10541 on: January 03, 2021, 06:32:28 AM »
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« Reply #10542 on: January 03, 2021, 06:37:18 AM »
Feared Post-Christmas Coronavirus Surge Appears to Begin In L.A. County as Cases Spike Again
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-02/la-county-sees-new-spike-in-coronavirus-cases-post-christmas-surge?_amp=true

The dreaded post-Christmas spike in coronavirus cases appears to be materializing in Los Angeles County, with a new rise in cases as hospitals are already in crisis from the Thanksgiving surge.

Los Angeles County posted its third highest single-day total for coronavirus cases on New Year’s Day, reporting 19,063 cases. That means that over the last seven days, there has been an average of more than 16,000 new coronavirus cases a day reported in the county — about 12 times bigger than the comparable figure from Nov. 1 and the highest figure ever recorded.

The tally reported Friday pushed the average number of new daily coronavirus cases over the last week to 16,077 — precisely around the same time that epidemiologists warned that people infected around the Christmas holiday would begin to become infectious.

The county also posted a high death toll Friday — 193 deaths, the fourth-highest single day death toll. New Year’s Day followed three consecutive days of record deaths reported in one day — 242 on Tuesday, 262 on Wednesday and 291 on Thursday. Combined, 988 deaths were reported in this four-day period.

Dr. Robert Kim-Farley, medical epidemiologist and infectious diseases expert with the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health, said Saturday he believed the new high in the daily average number of coronavirus cases is the beginning of the surge in coronavirus cases from the Christmas holiday.

Kim-Farley said he expects there will be increasingly larger numbers of daily coronavirus cases over the next two weeks as people exposed to the virus over Christmas and New Year’s fall ill and get tested.

Kim-Farley said he expects the hospitals to be at their peak crisis by the end of January. The daily number of COVID-19 deaths is then expected to peak by mid-February.

... On Friday, the number of Californians who have died from complications of COVID-19 passed 26,000 — roughly the same number of Californians who, in a recent year, died of complications of the flu, diabetes, hypertension and liver disease combined.



https://mobile.twitter.com/lacountycovid19/status/1345544213543325696



https://mobile.twitter.com/lapublichealth/status/1345544125764890624

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'This Is About Total Collapse of the Health Care System If We Have Another Spike' of Covid-19
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/02/health/us-coronavirus-saturday/index.html

... Nationwide, 125,379 people were hospitalized with Covid-19 on Thursday, more than any other day of the pandemic, according to the Covid Tracking Project. The number of patients topped 125,000 on Friday as well. The US has now remained above 100,000 hospitalizations for 31 straight days.

... "We entered a hospital (Mission Community Hospital in Panorama City), and they converted their administrative offices into treatment areas for Covid-19 patients," Balten said.

On one entire floor, "they also treated Covid-19 patients in a revamped break room," she said.

California emergency officials said hospitals are treating an "unprecedented" number of Covid-19 patients, and "the internal oxygen delivery systems built into many older hospitals are being overtaxed by the volume of oxygen flow required to treat patients with respiratory issues that arise from Covid-19."

"This is about total collapse of the health care system if we have another spike," Spellberg said.

... Texas health officials reported record-high Covid-19 hospitalizations across the state for the fifth day in a row, with more than 12,400 patients.

And Georgia announced a new record high of 8,769 new Covid-19 cases in the state Friday.

Gov. Brian Kemp said the Georgia World Congress Center convention center in downtown Atlanta has been turned into an overflow hospital.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10543 on: January 03, 2021, 07:14:30 AM »
Where are all of the commenters insisting we need to end the shutdown?

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10544 on: January 03, 2021, 08:58:15 AM »
Where are all of the commenters insisting we need to end the shutdown?

They hang out in the Covid consequences thread. Economy number one! (sarc)

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10545 on: January 03, 2021, 01:34:06 PM »
Where are all of the commenters insisting we need to end the shutdown?

Waiting for the mass psychosis to end, so the manipulation can be analysed with a clear head (probably never).
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10546 on: January 03, 2021, 02:02:15 PM »
Aaaand here comes the New Year spike...
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10547 on: January 03, 2021, 02:03:25 PM »
Where are all of the commenters insisting we need to end the shutdown?

Waiting for the mass psychosis to end, so the manipulation can be analysed with a clear head (probably never).

Will you still be saying that after the USA health system collapses in the coming weeks?

At what mark does Coivd become a significant enough problem to start calling it a problem?

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10548 on: January 03, 2021, 02:19:06 PM »
So a cancellation due to lightning certainly would have made sense.  Now, what will the weather be in 28 days?    :-\

Well, actually, they made a movie about that:

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« Reply #10549 on: January 03, 2021, 02:31:09 PM »
Genocide, pure and simple:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/03/palestinians-excluded-from-israeli-covid-vaccine-rollout-as-jabs-go-to-settlers

Palestinians excluded from Israeli Covid vaccine rollout as jabs go to settlers

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...As the world ramps up what is already on track to become a highly unequal vaccination push – with people in richer nations first to be inoculated – the situation in Israel and the Palestinian territories provides a stark example of the divide.

Israel transports batches of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine deep inside the West Bank. But they are only distributed to Jewish settlers, and not the roughly 2.7 million Palestinians living around them who may have to wait for weeks or months....
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