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How many will die of Covid19 in the 2020s directly and indirectly

Less than 10,000
10 (14.7%)
10,000-100,000
9 (13.2%)
100,000-1,000,000
9 (13.2%)
One to ten million
13 (19.1%)
Ten to a hundred million
14 (20.6%)
Hundred million to one billion
9 (13.2%)
Over a billion
4 (5.9%)

Total Members Voted: 66

Voting closed: March 03, 2020, 12:39:52 AM

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glennbuck

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #8150 on: August 03, 2020, 10:19:52 PM »
To all the anti-vax, anti-mask, anti-everything people, this is the logical conclusion of “freedom”.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #8151 on: Today at 01:38:00 AM »
Without Seasonal Workers, Australia May Face a Hungry Summer
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/04/without-seasonal-workers-australia-may-face-a-hungry-summer

With not enough workers to pick the upcoming harvest, Australia faces potential food shortages, and its farmers face economic devastation, writes Michael Rose, a research fellow and anthropologist at the Australian National University.

We are sailing into a food shortage and few are talking about it. This needs to change.

In essence the issue is this: a large proportion of Australia’s harvest labour is done by people from abroad who are unable to travel. As the months tick down towards the summer harvest there are simply not enough people to pick the fruit.

If this doesn’t change the result is likely to be shortages and price rises for horticultural products and, even more seriously, devastating hardship for our primary producers

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Tests: 2.5% of Italians Had COVID-19, Far More In the North
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/tests-25-italians-covid-19-north-72151539

About 1.5 million Italians - 2.5% of the population of Italy- may have already contracted coronavirus, nationwide antibody tests indicate, according to the Associated Press. But officials said Monday that huge geographic variations in the results confirmed a nationwide lockdown was “absolutely crucial” to preventing the country's south from getting slammed as badly as its north.

The figure, announced by health officials on Monday, is six times the number of confirmed cases in Italy’s official virus tally. The results — viewed with the country’s overall death toll of close to 35,000 —align with a 2.3% estimated mortality rate of the virus.

There were significant geographic disparities: An estimated 7.5% of the Lombardy region's residents had virus antibodies versus 1.9% in neighboring Veneto. Within Lombardy, sharp differences also emerged from province to province: Some 24% of Bergamo residents developed virus antibodies, but only 5.1% of residents did a few provinces over in Pavia.

The variations were even more stark when compared to southern Italy: Only 0.3% of residents in Sicily came into contact with the virus, and less than 1% of residents had virus antibodies in a half-dozen other southern regions.

Locatelli said the results also indicated that 27.3% of the people with the virus experienced no symptoms, demonstrating the need for continued social distancing and mask requirements. He stressed that the tests were not looking at whether the antibodies provided protection against the virus going forward, just the tested individuals had come into contact with the virus.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #8152 on: Today at 06:09:54 AM »
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The South Korean strategy to beat Covid19 is 'test, trace, isolate'.
To compare how this strategy is working I will use the data from the Harvard Global Health Institute.
They have a map showing the relative success of testing in each country at
Worldwide:  Covid-19 Tests vs tracing targets./

Scroll down the list of counties on the Daily Testing map to see that South Korea is at the end. It has been in this position for many months. Further down the page you will see a description of how this data is created.
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Total Tests (Contact Tracing and Isolation): Estimated number of tests needed given a strategy of testing all symptomatic individuals and contacts of those with positive tests.

By looking at the Positive Test Rate map we see that South Korea is no longer number 1. This is because countries with very few positive cases such as Vietnam and New Zealand will find very few even if they do a large number of tests. Hence it is possible to get similar results overall in containing the virus with mass testing or targeted testing. I believe the targeted approach is better.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #8153 on: Today at 09:07:16 AM »
Tests: 2.5% of Italians Had COVID-19, Far More In the North
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/wireStory/tests-25-italians-covid-19-north-72151539

About 1.5 million Italians - 2.5% of the population of Italy- may have already contracted coronavirus, nationwide antibody tests indicate, according to the Associated Press. But officials said Monday that huge geographic variations in the results confirmed a nationwide lockdown was “absolutely crucial” to preventing the country's south from getting slammed as badly as its north.

Officials would say things like that.

But Sweden also has enormous regional disparities in covid rates. Here in the South of the country we hardly had any (so far). Sweden did not have a lockdown. There only was an official advisory not to travel further than about one or two hours travel, which was generally adhered to, for example around the Easter and Ascension Day weekends.

That advisory was retracted at the beginning of summer (no catastrophic spread since then). The advisory to work from home as much as possible will remain in force for the rest of 2020.

No mask advisory so far. The Health Authority does not want to dilute the message to stay home when sick.
« Last Edit: Today at 09:13:33 AM by pietkuip »

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #8154 on: Today at 10:03:08 AM »
Sweden is proof of what compliance to the simplest sanitary measures can do in Sweden like environments.

However, expecting Florida to obtain the same results as Sweden is madness.

Also, let's remember their 10-20 fold death toll relative to other Sweden like environments (Norway, Finland). It applies to any country that chooses to keep their R~1 at high levels of viral prevalence.
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