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morganism

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eggs not a cardivascular hazard, actually help.
« on: February 05, 2021, 09:31:26 PM »
Conclusions: Our analysis suggests that higher consumption of eggs (more than 1 egg/day) was not associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disease, but was associated with a significant reduction in risk of coronary artery disease.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32653422/

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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2021, 02:58:10 PM »
This is a great talk about why cholesterol is not linked to heart disease.  Some very compelling reasoning in the interview, so worth listening to even if you are sure that cholesterol is a major factor in causing heart disease.

https://nourishbalancethrive.com/podcasts/nourish-balance-thrive/why-cholesterol-levels-have-no-effect-cardiovascul/

This is a very interesting piece about the history of the claim that cholesterol causes heart disease, and how behind the claim was a company wanting to persuade people to buy margarine, even though at the time margarine was thought to be very bad for your health (which may well be true).

https://drcate.com/cholesterol-what-the-american-heart-association-is-hiding-from-you-part-1/
https://drcate.com/cholesterol-what-the-american-heart-association-is-hiding-from-you-part-2/
https://drcate.com/cholesterol-what-the-american-heart-association-is-hiding-from-you-part-3/

On the basis of this and other sources I don't worry at all about cholesterol levels, and eat 2 eggs for breakfast every day!

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Re: eggs not a cardivascular hazard, actually help.
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2021, 04:28:44 PM »
I'm sorry JD but this is outright science denial and does not belong on this forum.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Malcolm_Kendrick

P.s. I eat eggs too, doesn't mean I can post denier links.

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Re: eggs not a cardivascular hazard, actually help.
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2021, 05:32:53 PM »
Used to eat 2 eggs a day, just went down to 1.
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2021, 05:50:06 PM »
Chickens and the eggs they lay are very important to any survival food planning. I am pleased that they are healthy but when you’re hungry they are an important protein source and a few years less to live isn’t probably top of your decision matrix.
 Eggs or whipped egg whites can leaven cakes , cookies, or breads if you have nothing else available.
Palatability is important to enjoying your food and leavened cake is a big improvement on hard tack, IMO.
 Cooking doesn’t seem to get much attention , deserves more . I can’t imagine cooking without eggs.
The hens run loose , and they are enjoyable company around the farm. Beautiful really.

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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2021, 03:47:13 AM »
and why cholesterol is helpful, they didin't know where it came from in the blood !

“When we eat more polyunsaturated fat, the cells collect cholesterol from the blood, and build it into the cell membranes to ensure that they become rigid enough. This is where the cholesterol has gone when we measure less cholesterol in the blood!”

And the opposite holds true as well – when we eat more saturated fat, the cell membranes become stiffer. The cells have less need to bring in stabilizing cholesterol and instead send it into the bloodstream. The cells also stop absorbing cholesterol, thus raising the blood cholesterol level.

In the second instance, Zinöcker arrived at another understanding:

The increase in blood cholesterol level as a result of more saturated fat in the diet may not be a sign of disease at all. On the contrary.

"The increased blood cholesterol level is probably a sign that the regulatory mechanisms in the body are working the way they should," says Zinöcker.

Perhaps the cholesterol in the blood of healthy people is simply a kind of emergency stockpile, which the body has at its disposal when the fluidity of the cell membranes needs to be adjusted.

“Cell stiffness is probably so important that the body doesn’t take a chance on covering the need exclusively through food,” says Zinöcker.

https://sciencenorway.no/cholesterol-fat-heart-attacks/new-model-could-explain-old-cholesterol-mystery/1810159

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2021, 09:04:38 AM »
From the same article:
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“The claim that the increase in LDL cholesterol is good and a sign of a healthy response is a premature interpretation. But should it turn out to be correct, then the authors have a big task if they want to prove that the high LDL cholesterol is beneficial,” says Retterstøl.

“I can hardly imagine high LDL being beneficial, because we know way too much about LDL's function for that,” he writes.

“It could be interesting if the HADL model turns out to bear fruit, but it doesn’t shake the fact we know – that saturated fat in the vast majority of people increases their LDL and that this in turn will increase their risk of cardiovascular disease,” Retterstøl says.