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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #400 on: July 02, 2024, 03:19:52 PM »
   
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Interesting...
    Transport of CAB ice southward into CAA.
    Ice along the easternmost Russian coast near Wrangel Island goes from 5 meters to near 0 in 30 days?
   
Don't ever believe anything HYCOM is trying to tell you about fast ice or the CAA. There is absolutely no ice moving through the CAA at this moment in time. Or since last season.

Which doesn't mean that the garlic press won't get some serious action this year. The CAA is in big trouble.
Keep 'em stupid, and they'll die for you.

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #401 on: September 27, 2024, 11:37:17 PM »
Maybe Freegrass upset them.

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #402 on: September 28, 2024, 08:11:30 AM »
Maybe Freegrass upset them.
Their model was messing up big time at the end of the melting season. That's why I stopped using it. And it did indeed stop on September 5. It would be a shame if they didn't try to fix it.

Maybe they don't need it anymore because the ice is so thin that submarines can surface anywhere now?
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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #403 on: September 28, 2024, 10:53:04 AM »
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Maybe they don't need it anymore because the ice is so thin that submarines can surface anywhere now?
Didn't think of that, makes sense.

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #404 on: September 28, 2024, 10:48:27 PM »

They stopped using model GOFS 3.1 now they use ESPC-D-V02 but the only way I can figure to get an image is download the netcdf file and use panoply to open it. Click the line with SIH and change the map contour to azimuthal equal area set the north parameter to 90 and the edge angel to 20. Then if you want you can adjust the scale to max out at 5 meters on the old charts or any other scale that seems appropriate. It is a bit of work but the parameters can be saved. It looks like they updated it significantly but I have not dug into much.

https://www.hycom.org/dataserver/espc-d-v02/global-analysis

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #405 on: September 28, 2024, 10:55:04 PM »
normal 5m scale
There is little ice thicker than 1.1m


https://tds.hycom.org/thredds/catalog/FMRC_ESPC-D-V02_ice/runs/catalog.html

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #406 on: September 28, 2024, 11:02:51 PM »
the data includes the globe so you can change the area of interest.

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #407 on: September 29, 2024, 12:07:06 AM »
Thanks. 382MB for each day but good resolution and 10 values.

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #408 on: September 29, 2024, 03:35:06 AM »
I just downloaded sea ice thickness at one time. It was 2.3mb

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #409 on: October 22, 2024, 04:02:58 PM »
ESPC-D-V02 ice thickness oct18-22

CAA looks ok so far, still a lot of drift. May be static south of Ballantyne Strait
https://go.nasa.gov/4hi1dys light contrast
« Last Edit: October 22, 2024, 05:14:01 PM by uniquorn »

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #410 on: October 22, 2024, 05:47:34 PM »
Thanks Uniquorn, thats very interesting how the thicker, MYI has lifted off quite a bit from the CAA. I suppose that better than it getting flushed into the CAA, and will allow the thinner ice there to thicken. Unless it gets churned out into the Beaufort and we get an early meltout there again.
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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #411 on: October 22, 2024, 06:50:40 PM »
Indeed. I was more interested in whether ESPC-D-V02 improved modelling of fast ice in the CAA.
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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #412 on: November 11, 2024, 11:04:16 PM »
ESPC-D-V02 ice thickness sep1-nov11

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Re: HYCOM
« Reply #413 on: November 11, 2024, 11:16:45 PM »
I feel like I should be paying you for all of your posts, uniquorn.
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