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« Reply #1050 on: December 12, 2019, 12:48:39 AM »
Congress to Halt Military Use of Toxic Foam Contaminating Drinking Water
https://phys.org/news/2019-12-congress-halt-military-toxic-foam.html

Congress has reached a deal on a spending bill that would require the military to stop using firefighting foam containing toxic chemicals linked to cancer, but would abandon efforts to place stronger regulations on the chemicals.

The bill, called the National Defense Authorization Act, has been the focus of intense negotiations for months. House Democrats saw it as their best chance to force President Trump's Environmental Protection Agency to increase its oversight of a class of chemicals, called perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances—commonly known as PFAS—that have contaminated drinking water sources across the country.

Senate Republicans resisted these measures, wary of forcing chemical companies and the Defense Department to undertake extensive cleanups.

But when hopes of a compromise faded last week, Democrats were left with little choice but to agree to significantly weaker provisions or kill the entire defense spending bill.

The bill that emerged out of a joint House-Senate committee this week had been stripped of measures that would require the EPA to designate the chemicals as "hazardous" and set a nationwide safety standard for PFAS in drinking water.

A proposal requiring contaminated sites across the country to be cleaned up under the Superfund program had also been removed, as had one that would limit how much PFAS chemical manufacturers could dump into water supplies.


... The military would also be barred by 2021 from giving service members ready-to-eat meals packaged in containers treated with PFAS.



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https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,428.msg189529.html#msg189529

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... Each Republican Senator & Congressman should be forced to drink a quart of this shit as a token of appreciation on behalf of a grateful nation.
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« Reply #1051 on: December 13, 2019, 08:37:10 AM »
Queensland school runs out of water as commercial bottlers harvest local supplies

Parents have been told to consider keeping Tamborine Mountain state school students at home, while trucks take local water to bottling plants for companies including Coca-Cola


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/12/queensland-school-water-commercial-bottlers-tamborine-mountain
  by Ben Smee


Water miners in the Mount Tamborine area supply roughly 130m litres of water each year to commercial bottling operations. Now the local bores are running dry.

“I was staggered,” one local resident, Craig Peters, told Guardian Australia. “It was more or less the final straw for me. The school’s bore is 50 metres deep and has never ever had these issues before.”

“At the conclusion of that ceremony they said give serious consideration to not sending kids to school for the rest of the week because of the lack of water.

“Now the government is buying water back from Coca-Cola to bring here, which is where it came from in the first place.”

The situation seems to fall into a regulatory void, with no mechanism to halt commercial operations in times of severe drought or ensure that local water is allocated to locals.
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« Reply #1052 on: December 13, 2019, 05:45:00 PM »
NSW (Australia) considering evacuating up to 90 towns if they run out of water


https://www.thefifthestate.com.au/articles/day-zero-might-mean-tough-choices-for-90-towns-looking-at-new-locations/?fbclid=IwAR25QQJBmeKnL08TrWC-H_OzLZgWwi5x9zhuznP8YRkWr01zhDC3AvQMB3w

"The NSW state government is considering evacuating the residents of as many as 90 towns that are seriously affected by drought if they completely run out of water.

For months, many towns in rural NSW have been relying on water being trucked in but that is only a short-term solution, and bore water is only available to some towns.

Prime7 News Central West late last month reported that the government would make the drastic move of relocating populations from towns without any water supply.

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Asked by Prime TV how many towns were facing the prospect of completely running out of water, the state’s regional town water supply co-ordinator, James McTavish, said: “We have about 90 towns and communities that we have substantial concerns about now”."

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« Reply #1053 on: December 20, 2019, 02:13:36 PM »
“Sea Level Rise and the cost of carbon” or “Places becoming less livable”?

Well, could be both, but I prefer “Places becoming less livable”. In fact, this place is not livable at all, at least for humans and other aerobic animals. By putting this article here, I send a clear message. We can say that funny, but at the end very disturbing. This will be happening on all coastal cities, no matter what. The question is how much and how fast, not if it will happen.

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This village fought sea-level rise 7,000 years ago. The sea won.

Seven thousand years ago, long before modern industry began to heat the planet, rising seas threatened a community on the coast of Israel. The villagers needed to defend their home, so they built a wall.

It failed. People abandoned the village. The Mediterranean sea swept inland and drowned the buildings.

But the sea may protect what it ruins. Cool water and a meter-thick layer of sand preserved the paraphernalia of Neolithic life, such as olive pits, bowls, animal bones and graves. The wall stands out: It is a 100-meter row of boulders that runs parallel to the ancient shoreline.

“It’s the world’s oldest sea wall,” said Jonathan Benjamin, a marine archaeologist at Flinders University in Australia. “It’s the first evidence of that very real problem that we’re dealing with today” — though he was quick to stress the difference between the source of sea-level rise then (the natural aftermath of an ice age) and now (human-made global warming).
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The settlement, named Tel Hreiz, was uncovered in 1960 by accident, when divers looking for shipwrecks found flint tools and human bones. Most of the site is submerged three to four meters below sea level. It drew little attention until 2012, when strong winter storms shifted the sand cover to reveal a line of boulders. Another storm in 2015 exposed additional stones.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2019/12/18/this-village-fought-sea-level-rise-years-ago-sea-won/
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Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #1054 on: December 20, 2019, 06:11:46 PM »
Exclusive: Canada police prepared to shoot Indigenous activists, documents show

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/20/canada-indigenous-land-defenders-police-documents
  by Jaskiran Dhillon in Wet’suwet’en territory and Will Parrish


Canadian police were prepared to shoot Indigenous land defenders blockading construction of a natural gas pipeline in northern British Columbia, according to documents seen by the Guardian.

Notes from a strategy session for a militarized raid on ancestral lands of the Wet’suwet’en nation show that commanders of Canada’s national police force, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), argued that “lethal overwatch is req’d” – a term for deploying snipers.

The RCMP commanders also instructed officers to “use as much violence toward the gate as you want” ahead of the operation to remove a roadblock which had been erected by Wet’suwet’en people to control access to their territories and stop construction of the proposed 670km (416-mile) Coastal GasLink pipeline (CGL).
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« Reply #1055 on: December 21, 2019, 04:07:48 PM »

^^

Jeezus H. Christ - this is being done under the leadership of the Liberal Party.
The party I was so proud of having supported.


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« Reply #1056 on: December 23, 2019, 11:43:09 PM »
Mysterious greenish-yellow liquid gushing from walls on I-696 identified
https://amp.freep.com/amp/2721790001



The mysterious, greenish-yellow liquid that ran onto I-696 in Madison Heights on Friday came from a closed electroplating business whose owner is serving a year in federal prison for operating an unlicensed hazardous waste storage facility.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency was called to investigate and determined the liquid likely was groundwater contaminated with hexavalent chromium, according to The Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy (EGLE).

State officials said the liquid was entering a storm sewer on I-696. While the spill is taking place outside Macomb County, any material that enters storm drains along I-696 eventually travels to Lake St. Clair, according to a news release from Macomb County Public Works.

According to the U.S. Occupational Health and Safety Administration, hexavalent chromium is known to cause cancer at high levels of exposure.
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« Reply #1057 on: December 24, 2019, 02:19:20 AM »

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The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency was called to investigate and determined the liquid likely was groundwater contaminated with hexavalent chromium, according to The Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes, and Energy (EGLE).

State officials said the liquid was entering a storm sewer on I-696. While the spill is taking place outside Macomb County, any material that enters storm drains along I-696 eventually travels to Lake St. Clair, according to a news release from Macomb County Public Works.

According to the U.S. Occupational Health and Safety Administration, hexavalent chromium is known to cause cancer at high levels of exposure.

Hinkley still toxic from hexavalent chromium

https://grist.org/article/the-true-story-of-the-town-behind-erin-brockovich/

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« Reply #1058 on: December 24, 2019, 12:36:40 PM »
Nobody bothered to clean up the hazardous waste storage facility?
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« Reply #1059 on: December 28, 2019, 11:13:12 PM »
Florida town sees the future:

“I don’t look out the windows anymore because I’m afraid I’ll see flooding,”

"Her only choice, she said, is to sell the home she’s lived in for 53 years, the one she had planned to die in."

"her town, Surfside, is pioneering what appears to be a first of its kind solution for residents in the decades to come — a fund for potential buyouts."

"“This is my life I am planning. You have got to tell me the truth,” she insisted."

"She said staff told her that even if she raised her sea wall 2 extra feet, she would only buy herself around seven years before the floodwaters started licking at her door."

“Our risk is undeniable. The modelers get it. The mortgage institutions get it. Insurance gets it.”

https://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/2019/12/27/a-south-florida-towns-pioneering-plan-to-fund-retreat-from-sea-rise/

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« Reply #1060 on: January 07, 2020, 04:36:23 PM »
Magnitude 6.4 Earthquake Has Knocked Out Power For All of Puerto Rico
https://earther.gizmodo.com/a-magnitude-6-4-earthquake-has-knocked-out-power-for-al-1840850931

Just a day after a 5.8 magnitude earthquake knocked out power to the southern part of Puerto Rico, the entire island is in the dark after a 6.4 magnitude earthquake broke out early Tuesday morning, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.

... All this damage and the subsequent blackout comes at a period that the island continues to be in need of aid to recover from Hurricane Maria, which devastated Puerto Rico more than two years ago. The loss of power shows how much work the island still needs to be prepared for future natural disasters, and how little the Trump administration has done to help.
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« Reply #1061 on: January 08, 2020, 10:15:56 PM »
Fortunately, no tsunami:
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* AN EARTHQUAKE WITH A PRELIMINARY MAGNITUDE OF 6.0 OCCURRED IN
THE PUERTO RICO REGION AT 1118 UTC ON TUESDAY JANUARY 7 2020.

* BASED ON ALL AVAILABLE DATA... THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT TSUNAMI THREAT FROM THIS EARTHQUAKE. HOWEVER... THERE IS A VERY SMALL POSSIBILITY OF TSUNAMI WAVES ALONG COASTS LOCATED NEAREST THE EPICENTER.
https://ptwc.weather.gov/ptwc/text.php?id=caribe.TIBCAX.2020.01.07.1122
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« Reply #1062 on: January 11, 2020, 12:39:01 AM »
The World is 'Running Out of Sand', and It's Fuelling Murders, Mafias and Ecological Devastation
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-11/illegal-sand-trade-india-mafia-murders-vince-beiser/11779570



... Sand from the desert is unsuitable for construction, so instead we mostly use sand found at the bottom of rivers, lakes, oceans and on beaches.

Beiser says the world uses 50 billion tonnes of this kind of sand every year — more than any other natural resource, "except for water".

"When you are talking about quantities that large, sooner or later you're going to run into shortages, and that is in fact what is happening in a growing number of places around the world," he says.

"We are running out, believe it or not."

"No sand, no modern civilisation."
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« Reply #1063 on: January 11, 2020, 02:17:53 AM »
So considering the biblical tale about the promise to Abraham to multiply his descendants as the sand on the seashore, maybe this should be a hint to Abraham's alleged progeny to halt this mindless compund multiplying?

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« Reply #1064 on: January 13, 2020, 08:36:53 PM »
Simulations Show Parts of Amazon Switch from Carbon Sink to Carbon Source by 2050
https://m.phys.org/news/2020-01-simulations-amazon-carbon-source.html

A team of researchers led by Paulo Brando, assistant professor at the University of California, Irvine, has found evidence that parts of the Amazon Rainforest could switch from a carbon sink to a carbon source by 2050. In their paper published in the journal Science Advances, the group describes environmental simulations they developed and what they learned from them.

Their simulations showed that if deforestation continues at its current rate, the increased dryness that results would lead to burning approximately 16 percent of the southern Brazilian Amazon forest by 2050. That amount of lost forest, they suggest, could be enough to flip the region from a carbon sink to a carbon source. And that would mean an increase in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, leading to a hotter planet.

Open Access:P.M. Brando at University of California, Irvine in Irvine, CA el al., "The gathering firestorm in southern Amazonia," Science Advances (2019)
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« Reply #1065 on: January 13, 2020, 10:07:39 PM »
vox_mundi:
2050 is what we project now.
Based on recent history, the actual date might be 2040 or even 2030.
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« Reply #1066 on: January 13, 2020, 10:24:27 PM »
And other research says we have 1% margin left so that will be early 2020s by current rates.

Also the typical way to open up the lands makes it more vulnerable. Project somewhere, then roads to project creating much more forest edge and then someone will burn it down to farm there for a bit.
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« Reply #1067 on: January 14, 2020, 02:09:59 AM »
Bittle at the Baffler on flood and sea level impacts in the USA:

"a neighborhood that feels more like an unclaimed frontier than a subdivision in one of the nation’s fastest-growing metropolitan areas. Dogs run free across acres of empty land, the sound of a falling acorn echoes for blocks"

"Funded by the federal government, local governments in coastal states are buying out thousands of homes in vulnerable areas every year, reshaping and breaking up communities as they go. In their wake, the departed residents of these communities have left what may be the country’s first climate ghost towns, abandoned places made uninhabitable by the warming of the planet."

"the federal bureaucracy tasked with handling response to these disasters still treats them as individual events rather than constituent parts of a larger crisis"

"No one would argue that these projects are useless, but they represent an outmoded way of thinking, one that assumes Mother Nature wreaks havoc in a relatively stable and predictable manner. Recent storm events in particular have disproved that assumption, becoming so monstrous and erratic over the past decade as to make designing the flood barriers of the 2030s and the 2040s a task akin to dressing for the weather on this day ten years from now."

"what about the lessons no one sees coming? The other question, of course, is why invest in a barricade that you know will someday burst, if not in the 2040s then in the 2050s?"

"While the program often had to borrow money from the Treasury, the sums were once small and quickly repaid. But as the pace of natural disasters has escalated, the cost of flood recovery has outstripped the amount the program’s five million participating households can afford to pay into the central pot, and it has fallen into unprecedented debt. "

"one house in Houston that flooded on twenty-two separate occasions between 1979 and 2017, filing an insurance claim each time."

"The people who continue to live in these areas are doing something so risky that the government will at some point no longer be able to subsidize it, whether by repairing homes after a flood or fortifying them against the next one. "

" “You have some places where there are high property values, high development, and people are incentivized to build there,” she says—think South Beach or the Hamptons. “But then you have these other communities in the same states, where [people are] not living there because it’s prime real estate or they’re wealthy, they’re living there because they historically can’t afford to live anywhere else.” "

"Where buyouts do occur, they lead to different outcomes for the rich and the poor, disproportionately benefiting wealthier and whiter families who have the means to sustain themselves as they buy new houses and settle in new communities."

"Even if New York City one day builds a seawall around Manhattan, protecting the East Village forever from the kind of dissolution that took place in Arbor Oaks, hundreds of smaller and less affluent communities will fall apart piece by piece in the coming decades as the storms continue."

"Americans displaced by weather events often have at most the right to material compensation for whatever property they lost during a natural disaster. Such a system, pegged as it is to real estate valuations, will always reproduce the inequality that existed prior to the catastrophe, if it doesn’t make that inequality even worse."

"In 2018, when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) finally released new rainfall predictions for Texas, the agency found that storms which were previously considered once-in-a-century events could now be expected every twenty-five years."

"When the new maps take effect in the early 2020s, Wade says, the floodplain will get much larger ...  the floodplain area will likely expand from a thin stripe on either side of a creek into a swath of land a mile wide, covering thousands of homes and businesses. "

“A lot of our job, really, is to physically uncover the environment so we can have a more resilient place,”

"  “[There] are entire neighborhoods that are now within the hundred-year floodplain,” and many residents are living there because that’s what they can afford. They aren’t likely to find comparable housing elsewhere for what the county can offer them in a buyout."

 “Our future is part of what we lost,”

"families who can’t move or don’t want to will become the living collateral of the retreat process, their neighborhoods emptied and lives uprooted because of forces well beyond their control: not only the weather itself, but the policies of the people who govern them. "

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/on-the-waterfronts-bittle

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« Reply #1068 on: January 15, 2020, 04:19:48 PM »
ESPN Australia & NZ on Twitter: "Awful scenes in Melbourne. Dalila Jakupovic has abandoned her #AusOpen qualifying match after suffering a coughing fit while playing in thick smoke caused by the #AustralianFires.”
https://twitter.com/ESPNAusNZ/status/1216943379507867649
Video at the link.
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« Reply #1069 on: January 15, 2020, 05:52:15 PM »
How very stupid that they are playing whilst doctors are always warning to not do heavy excercise outside in bad airpollution.
Darwinian? (I know it's in Melbourne)
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« Reply #1070 on: January 16, 2020, 12:10:51 AM »
The money they make of the show is more important. One of the tennis players tweeted that of course there would be experts saying it is ok to play in current conditions because they also did that when it was really wet at wimbledon (which is a hazard for knees i guess) and really hot (wild guess on my part) in the US open.
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« Reply #1071 on: January 16, 2020, 06:54:39 AM »
Money or health? What a choice. They should ask old people to answer that question.
Money or a future? They should ask the children to answer that question.
The blind God of accumulation strikes again. And these people are already very rich.
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« Reply #1072 on: January 16, 2020, 08:11:24 AM »
Money or health? What a choice. They should ask old people to answer that question.

The greatest wealth is health, no question about that

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« Reply #1073 on: January 16, 2020, 09:01:11 PM »
Money or health? What a choice. They should ask old people to answer that question.
Money or a future? They should ask the children to answer that question.
The blind God of accumulation strikes again. And these people are already very rich.


As a resident "old person" I'd opt for depends. ;)


In the US ridiculous sums of money are required to assure yourself of barely adequate health care. In most of the world health and wealth can be separated to a great extent. I don't believe this to be true in America, the exception yet again.


I met Johnny Weissmuller when he was in his late '60's. He was working as a celebrity lifeguard at a high end residential hotel in Southern California. He could still do 3 finger pushups and appeared an (aged) picture of health.
His greatest regret was that he hadn't invested well and would be forced to work 'till he died. He was certainly healthy, but not noticeably happy. He spent much of our time together bitching about others and seemed more concerned with past glories than present circumstances.


Wealth can smooth over a lot of bumps, & if gaining more doesn't control your life it can provide nice percs. Health is fundamental. It stands alone and can't be compared to anything.


Happiness with who you are, what you have, & where you're headed probably trumps everything.


Stay Happy!
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« Reply #1074 on: January 17, 2020, 02:49:47 AM »
Well said Terry.
Sadly I'm afraid the separation between health and wealth is fraying or even breaking down in other parts of the world too.

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« Reply #1075 on: January 17, 2020, 05:38:26 AM »
^^
Thanks oren


It's sad hearing that health care is being rationed by the availability of cash. I've lived the difference in the US & Canada. Sidds examples are not exaggerations. I've seen the sick and injured flee an ambulance ride, an ambulance ride that they needed but couldn't afford.


A friend died waiting until he would turn 63 and Social Security would pick up the bill for his failing heart.
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Re: Places becoming less livable
« Reply #1076 on: January 17, 2020, 07:24:10 AM »
^^
That's just awful. Unimaginable. Our media should show video's of that 'American Dream'. That'll be shocking and dream busting.

I postpone going to the dentist because of costs. My teeth are not in great condition. I still have 2 molars left and I found out it is possible to chew without molars.

This thread's title "livable" is becoming literal for many poor people. How much further down the road can this go?
"Places becoming less survivable"
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Re: Places becoming less livable
« Reply #1077 on: January 17, 2020, 08:36:32 PM »
Deutsche Welle did a show on homelessness in the USA:

https://www.dw.com/en/homeless-in-the-us/av-42600628

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Re: Places becoming less livable
« Reply #1078 on: January 17, 2020, 08:40:28 PM »
‘Least snow I’ve seen in my life’: climate change in Japan worries experts and tourism operators
- The city of Sapporo is having to truck in snow for its annual festival, while some ski resorts have closed early in Hokkaido’s mildest winter on record
- Experts say there are fears the changing climate could see more, larger typhoons and a lack of water in the summertime

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3046523/least-snow-ive-seen-my-life-climate-change-japan
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