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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2850 on: September 18, 2019, 06:00:25 PM »
Scientists Identify Weather Event Behind Extreme Cold in Europe and Asia during February 2018
https://phys.org/news/2019-09-scientists-weather-event-extreme-cold.html

... A wave of extremely cold air hit Eurasia in late February 2018, lasting for a month while temperatures broke record lows across Europe. The extreme cold came from a splitting of a cluster of air high above the Arctic, called the polar vortex.

... To predict sudden warming events in the stratosphere, past research mostly studied how the troposphere—the lowest layer of the atmosphere and where Earth's weather occurs—behaved on average prior to events in the stratosphere. But these models did not always catch how temporary weather patterns in the troposphere influenced the stratosphere.

In the new study, researchers tested their hypothesis that a chain of events in the troposphere caused the sudden stratospheric warming and subsequent splitting of the polar vortex. They first looked at weather forecast data in the days and weeks leading up to the sudden stratospheric warming event. They saw the forecasts only seemed to accurately predict the event when they captured a cyclone over Greenland and a high-pressure air mass over Scandinavia in the days before the stratospheric warming.

...The research team also looked at historic weather data and found the same series of events has caused sudden stratospheric warmings in the past. They found these unusual weather patterns occurred 49 times between 1979 and 2017 and foreshadowed 35 percent of the stratospheric warmings in this period.

"It's one mechanism that potentially explains a third of these events historically," Lee said. "That just one event in the Atlantic has contributed to a third of them is quite surprising."


The top panel shows how some forecasts anticipated the sudden stratospheric warming, while the bottom shows what other forecasts anticipated. Ultimately, the warming appeared similar to the top panel forecasts’ predictions.

S. H. Lee et al. Abrupt Stratospheric Vortex Weakening Associated With North Atlantic Anticyclonic Wave Breaking, Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres (2019)
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2851 on: September 24, 2019, 08:43:16 PM »
Alaska (polar amplification?) is the home state of weird weather:
Changes to Alaska’s environment are many, and so fast
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/science/2019/09/21/changes-to-alaskas-environment-are-many-and-so-fast/
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Wildfire seasons with more than 1 million acres burned (black patches the size of Rhode Island) have increased by 50% since 1990.

Before 2004, Fairbanks residents experienced only one summer with more than three weeks of significant wildfire smoke. Since then, we have breathed in five such summers, including in 2019.

The earliest ice breakup in recorded history of the Tanana River at Nenana was on April 14, 2019. The previous earliest was April 20. Nine of the 10 earliest breakup days there have happened since the mid-1990s.

People in the village of Northway felt the sting of minus-30-degree (Fahrenheit) air about 40 days each year before 1960. In the last 10 years, Northway residents have experienced less than one month per year of such days.

Since 2014, thermometers from Ketchikan to Utqiagvik have recorded from five to 30 times more record highs than record lows. Homer has seen one of the most extreme percentages of record high temperatures since 2014, but all Alaska towns with enduring weather records have experienced way more record highs than lows.


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« Reply #2852 on: September 29, 2019, 01:48:34 AM »
U.S.:
A possibly historic snow storm in the West plus a heat wave in the East — what's going on? -
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Historic snow and a heat wave? That’s what a downright loopy jet stream pattern is bringing to large parts of the United States.

Parts of the Northern Rockies are bracing for what the National Weather Service in Missoula, MT is describing as an “historic winter storm this weekend,” with up to five feet [1.5 meters] of snow forecast. ...

Although this part of the United States is no stranger to early autumn snow, it’s not usually measured in feet.

Meanwhile, parts of the U.S. East Coast are continuing to experience temperatures well above normal for this time of year — and conditions are forecast to heat up even more, potentially to record-high levels next week.

With a stubborn “heat dome” parked overhead, the Southeast has already been enduring one of its hottest Septembers on record. And the strength of the dome is forecast to intensify next week to a point that occurs just one day every 10 to 30 years during this time of year, according to an analysis by meteorologist Rob Elvington of WAAY TV in Huntsville, AL. ...
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/2019/09/28/historic-snow-storm-in-the-west-plus-a-heat-wave-in-the-east-whats-going-on/

Edit: more, from 3 months ago:
A Winding Jetstream Brings Weather Chaos Around the Globe – Climate Denial Crock of the Week
https://climatecrocks.com/2019/06/22/a-winding-jetstream-brings-weather-chaos-around-the-globe/
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2853 on: October 03, 2019, 12:20:46 AM »
We had one day of measurable precipitation at my house in September for about 0.14 in (3.5 mm). Normal for the month is around 4.1" (104 mm). Absolutely parched and today we broke the all time record high for the month of October at 98 F (36.7 C).  Baltimore, MD USA.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2854 on: October 03, 2019, 12:30:53 AM »
Today it was 93°F; tommorrow evening it's expected to be 45°F - Southern Connecticut
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« Reply #2855 on: October 09, 2019, 02:41:43 AM »
Alaska's average annual temperature has now risen above the melting point.

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Over the last 12 months, the average Alaska statewide temperature is 32.7°F [0.4°C]. This is the highest value for the 1925-present time period using NOAA/NCEI statewide values. #akwx
https://twitter.com/iarc_alaska/status/1181596228175351809
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2856 on: October 10, 2019, 01:48:35 PM »
Temperatures could drop 50 degrees in 24 hours ahead of historic snowfall
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/10/09/potentially-historic-october-winter-storm-targets-northern-rockies-plains/?outputType=amp

An intense and potentially historic fall snowstorm is expected to dump up to 2 feet of snow starting Wednesday across portions of the north-central United States.

The massive size and intensity of this snowstorm is unheard of for October.

https://twitter.com/TWCChrisBruin/status/1181658401622937601

... A drastic temperature drop Wednesday will make it feel like Denver has gone from fall to winter in 24 hours.

Temperatures there will plummet from a high around 80 degrees Fahrenheit Wednesday to below freezing for Thursday's high.

Much of Colorado will transition from hazardous fire conditions to a freeze warning in only a matter of hours.


Other notable temperature drops this week include:

• Amarillo: From 85 degrees to 29 degrees in 36 hours

• Minneapolis: From 65 degrees to 33 degrees in 33 hours

• Kansas City: From 71 degrees to 41 degrees in 15 hours

• Albuquerque: From 70 degrees to 29 degrees in 15 hours

• Oklahoma City: From 74 degrees to 39 degrees in 18 hours
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2857 on: October 10, 2019, 02:36:10 PM »
TV Meteorologists Warming to Climate Science
with Peter Sinclair

Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2858 on: October 11, 2019, 09:06:10 PM »
Well, it’s a little weird I’m wearing shorts and T-shirt in Twinsburg in mid-October.

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« Reply #2859 on: October 13, 2019, 09:38:52 PM »
The recent winter storm hit Manitoba, Canada hard.

Kyle Brittain on Twitter: "Unreal. Seeing longer stretches of snapped hydro poles in a row on the west side of Portage than I've ever seen with any severe thunderstorm or tornado in summer. #mbstorm @weathernetwork”
https://twitter.com/KyleTWN/status/1183094703912181761

October winter weather pummels Manitoba, storm expected to last into weekend | CTV News
https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/october-winter-weather-pummels-manitoba-storm-expected-to-last-into-weekend-1.4634223
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« Reply #2860 on: October 13, 2019, 10:33:17 PM »
USA October Snow Storm
A warm September meant that trees were still at least partly in leaf + high winds over soggy ground, and wild-life & cattle were late in growing their winter coats.. Crops were about to be harvested.


And afterwards ... so early in the year temperature rebound very possible, fast thaw, flooding.

So the snowstorm impact was more because it was early after a very warm September. It will be not so easy to find out later how much damage has been done.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6026144/winnipeggers-cleanup-october-snowstorm/
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Arborist Mark Vickers says Thomas isn’t alone. He received hundreds of calls from Winnipeggers with fallen branches covering their front lawns. “I’ve never seen it this bad,” Vickers says, looking out towards the street.

Mayor Brian Bowman said the tree canopy has been severely damaged

So many tree limbs down from on our street. It’s sad to see the trees damaged like this. #winnipegweather #mbstorm pic.twitter.com/ykKDzKSQh0 — Heather Hinam (@SecondNatureMB) October 11, 2019

http://www.startribune.com/blizzard-warning-posted-in-north-dakota-amid-fall-snowstorm/562808382/
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BISMARCK, N.D. — North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum on Friday activated the state's emergency plan due to what he called a crippling snowstorm that closed major highways and had farmers and ranchers bracing for huge crop and livestock losses.

The north-central and northeastern part of the state was taking the brunt of the storm but Bismarck, in the central North Dakota, had nearly a foot of snow by Friday.

"I'm expecting massive crop losses — as devastating as we've even seen," said Jon Nelson, a state lawmaker who farms several hundred acres near Rugby in north-central North Dakota.

Unharvested wheat in the region probably will be a total loss, he said.

"A lot of the standing stuff is flattened to the ground," Nelson said. "It's shot and some guys are putting their combines away and won't bring them out again."

Erika Kenner, who ranches with her parents in Leeds, North Dakota, said she felt helpless Friday as she was unable to check on the family's herd of several hundred cows due to deep, drifting snow.

"I just hear the wind howling and think of those poor cows out there," she said. "Cattle are tough but this kind of weather just wears on them."
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« Reply #2861 on: October 30, 2019, 01:10:07 AM »
U.S.: Denver, Colorado

"I've been covering weather for about 25 years, and I've never stood in weather this cold in October in the lower 48 [states]."
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So far [Denver International Airport] has picked up 5.9"[150mm] [snow] with [Winter Storm] #Bessie with 3-5" more......a Winter Storm Warning until 6 AM MT. And the #cold is extreme: 13°[F, -10.6°C] in Denver, 47° BELOW average. Oh, and the wind chill is -4° [-20°C]. Record lows next 2 mornings ...
https://twitter.com/mikeseidel/status/1189285557320507393

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Would you believe that it will be 13° warmer in Utqiagvik (Barrow), AK than #Billings today? Amarillo, TX and Utqiagvik will be about the same. #mtwx #akwx #txwx
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2862 on: October 30, 2019, 01:34:22 AM »
Record (lower 48 States) cold for October at Peter Sinks Utah.

But maybe not so weird at all considering this came from the notoriously cold sink hole that is Peter Sinks. A truly remarkable place.

https://www.wsls.com/weather/coldest-october-temperature-on-record-observed-in-utah

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« Reply #2863 on: October 30, 2019, 09:28:38 AM »
U.S.: Denver, Colorado

"I've been covering weather for about 25 years, and I've never stood in weather this cold in October in the lower 48 [states]."
- @mikeseidel

The other side of the coin : Central Europe has never had such a warm October.

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« Reply #2864 on: October 30, 2019, 09:44:15 AM »
It's not a coin. It's an n sided dice, where n is given by the n-pole anomaly and its interaction with oceans and land.
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« Reply #2865 on: October 30, 2019, 04:34:14 PM »
There are 2 poles so n=2 and a 2-sided dice is a coin ;)
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« Reply #2866 on: October 30, 2019, 05:03:37 PM »
It's not a coin. It's an n sided dice, where n is given by the n-pole anomaly and its interaction with oceans and land.

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« Reply #2867 on: October 31, 2019, 09:05:11 PM »
Florida

Eric Blake on Twitter: "#Miami is going to destroy its warmest October on record by at least one full degree. In fact it is warmer than ANY September before 1974, and warmer than the 1971-2000 average for AUGUST. Ridiculous period- come on Fall!”
https://mobile.twitter.com/ericblake12/status/1189669517003304960
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« Reply #2868 on: October 31, 2019, 09:19:54 PM »
Florida

Eric Blake on Twitter: "#Miami is going to destroy its warmest October on record by at least one full degree. In fact it is warmer than ANY September before 1974, and warmer than the 1971-2000 average for AUGUST. Ridiculous period- come on Fall!”
https://mobile.twitter.com/ericblake12/status/1189669517003304960
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The growing disparity between locations like Miami and San Diego and those like Fargo and Helena is excellent at illustrating how the focus of the heat is increasingly becoming the oceans, while the middle of the continent is becoming the place where this excess is resolved in the form of higher albedo (rather, the oceanic heat is dissipated / resolved as it is transported onto land as snow, and as it travels atop areas of high albedo).

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2869 on: November 08, 2019, 03:50:35 AM »
Kris Van Steenbergen on Twitter: "We're heading to the hottest Arctic fall season in 3M years. Entire basin & Greenland 16°C to 28°C warmer than normal.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/krvast/status/1192379141880000512
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« Reply #2870 on: November 08, 2019, 07:19:05 AM »
Kris Van Steenbergen on Twitter: "We're heading to the hottest Arctic fall season in 3M years. Entire basin & Greenland 16°C to 28°C warmer than normal.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/krvast/status/1192379141880000512
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Well, the heat capacity of water is larger than the heat capacity of ground, so WACC is the result, to make it most basicest.

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« Reply #2871 on: November 08, 2019, 01:25:30 PM »
Kris Van Steenbergen on Twitter: "We're heading to the hottest Arctic fall season in 3M years. Entire basin & Greenland 16°C to 28°C warmer than normal.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/krvast/status/1192379141880000512
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Well, the heat capacity of water is larger than the heat capacity of ground, so WACC is the result, to make it most basicest.

I would not put too much (or any) faith in someone's twitter post.  If that were to occur, just think of the ramifications.

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« Reply #2872 on: November 08, 2019, 01:50:47 PM »
Kris Van Steenbergen on Twitter: "We're heading to the hottest Arctic fall season in 3M years. Entire basin & Greenland 16°C to 28°C warmer than normal.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/krvast/status/1192379141880000512
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Well, the heat capacity of water is larger than the heat capacity of ground, so WACC is the result, to make it most basicest.

I would not put too much (or any) faith in someone's twitter post.  If that were to occur, just think of the ramifications.
Yesterday, GFS said Arctic Temperature anomaly would rise  to +5.9 celsius by day 10.
Today - to only about +2.5.

GFS certainly has form in forecasting sudden bursts of warmth in the last days of their 10 day forecasts. Do other models do the same?
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« Reply #2873 on: November 08, 2019, 03:57:31 PM »
There is a way to pull the predicted anomaly minus the realized anomaly at a given offset of days.  I don't recall how to do it, but it was posted here a few years back and the GFS has a pronounced warm bias in the long range forecasts in the arctic in the winter.  They rarely realize.

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« Reply #2874 on: November 10, 2019, 01:15:57 AM »
Kris Van Steenbergen on Twitter: "We're heading to the hottest Arctic fall season in 3M years. Entire basin & Greenland 16°C to 28°C warmer than normal.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/krvast/status/1192379141880000512
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I would not put too much (or any) faith in someone's twitter post.  If that were to occur, just think of the ramifications.

The GFS message is the same, regardless of the messenger.
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« Reply #2875 on: November 10, 2019, 02:41:56 AM »
Kris Van Steenbergen on Twitter: "We're heading to the hottest Arctic fall season in 3M years. Entire basin & Greenland 16°C to 28°C warmer than normal.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/krvast/status/1192379141880000512
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I would not put too much (or any) faith in someone's twitter post.  If that were to occur, just think of the ramifications.

The GFS message is the same, regardless of the messenger.

Did GFS really saw the hottest Arctic fall in 3 million years?

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« Reply #2876 on: November 10, 2019, 02:43:07 AM »
Kris Van Steenbergen on Twitter: "We're heading to the hottest Arctic fall season in 3M years. Entire basin & Greenland 16°C to 28°C warmer than normal.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/krvast/status/1192379141880000512
Image below. GIF at the link.

I would not put too much (or any) faith in someone's twitter post.  If that were to occur, just think of the ramifications.

The GFS message is the same, regardless of the messenger.

Did GFS say 28C warmer than normal?

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« Reply #2877 on: November 10, 2019, 07:42:24 AM »
I don't know the poste of that twitter message but he is clearly not stating the facts.
"Entire basin & Greenland 16°C to 28°C warmer than normal." - this is obviously very very far from the truth (the arctic is 1,6 C above normal and will be around that figure for a while)
"not seen for 3 M years" - maybe he should check last fall, or 2017, or 2016. So much for this

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« Reply #2878 on: November 11, 2019, 11:22:25 PM »
"dynamic weather pattern continues this week, with a deep long-wave upper-level trough over the west-southwest and central Europe while to the east, an extensive upper ridge develops. This pattern brings a lot of rain (and snow) into the Alpine region, while it results in an extreme temperature anomaly across eastern Europe."
https://www.severe-weather.eu/mcd/heatwave-over-eastern-europe-mk/

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« Reply #2879 on: November 12, 2019, 03:18:41 PM »
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Did GFS say 28C warmer than normal?

Yes.  That’s what the color on the map says the anomaly is in some areas.

And since we don’t have thermometer records back that far, a logical interpretation of the statement would be that the GFS values are higher than any sustained Arctic temperature in the distant past measured by other means. 
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« Reply #2880 on: November 13, 2019, 03:53:08 PM »
Again, the Twitter post was a 384 (!) hour forecast. That's 16 days out.

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« Reply #2881 on: November 13, 2019, 07:46:29 PM »
Again, the Twitter post was a 384 (!) hour forecast. That's 16 days out.
Stoopid!

Meanwhile, reality.......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50401308
Venice floods: Climate change behind highest tide in 50 years, says mayor

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Severe flooding in Venice that has left much of the Italian city under water is a direct result of climate change, the mayor says.

The highest water levels in the region in more than 50 years would leave "a permanent mark", Venice Mayor Luigi Brugnaro tweeted.

"Now the government must listen," he added. "These are the effects of climate change... the costs will be high."

St Mark's Square - one of the lowest parts of the city - was one of the worst hit areas.

St Mark's Basilica was flooded for the sixth time in 1,200 years, according to church records. Pierpaolo Campostrini, a member of St Mark's council, said four of those floods had now occurred within the past 20 years.

Mr Brugnaro said the damage was "huge" and that he would declare a state of disaster, warning that a project to help prevent the Venetian lagoon suffering devastating floods "must be finished soon".

"The situation is dramatic. We ask the government to help us," he said
For those like me w have not been to visit, lots of photos in the article.

PS: attached pic. Should I have saved it in my "oceans" folder ?
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« Reply #2882 on: November 13, 2019, 10:05:27 PM »
^^
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« Reply #2883 on: November 14, 2019, 02:05:31 AM »
 lol .. worth your 400th like :) .

I was stood there 47 1/2 years ago , surrounded by other school boys and a lot of pigeons . The last day of my one and only cruise . mmmmmmmy day cycling the empty streets and roads of Rhodes was my highlight . b.c. :)
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« Reply #2884 on: November 23, 2019, 06:58:38 PM »
North Pole, Alaska, lacks enough ice for sculpture event
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FAIRBANKS, Alaska (AP) — Blame the Grinch or Mother Nature, but the annual Christmas in Ice sculpture park won’t open this year in North Pole, Alaska, because of a lack of ice.  It’s the first cancellation since the event started 14 years ago in the city where Christmas is celebrated year-round and city light poles are decorated like candy canes, Executive Director Keith Fye told the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner.

The ice park is next to the Santa Claus House gift shop in North Pole, located 14 miles southeast of Fairbanks. The park normally operates through December and features Yule-themed ice sculptures. Fye said there isn’t enough ice on ponds to harvest for ice carving.

The lack of ice on lakes and ponds follows a warm October in Alaska’s interior. It was further exacerbated by snowfall, which hampers the formation of ice.

North Pole has been almost 8 degrees warmer than normal, said Rick Thoman, a climate specialist at the International Arctic Research Center in Fairbanks. Even warmer temperatures were recorded last year and in 2013. The low temperature in October at North Pole this year was 14 degrees, the highest October minimum temperature in the 50 years of record-keeping in North Pole, he said.

“The warm oceans and the lack of sea ice are contributing an immense amount of heat to the atmosphere regionally, and so it’s no surprise that we had a warm October,” he said.

As soon as temperatures dropped and it was cold enough to form ice, then snow fell. That slowed down the formation of ice.
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« Reply #2885 on: November 24, 2019, 02:05:44 PM »
^^
But is Alaska still able to keep her pipeline filled? Can the fate of one cheesy seasonal attraction be compared to the oil revenues that enrich all of Alaska's politicians!
Drill baby drill - even if parka vendors need to close their doors, the juice must flow.


Alaskans have priorities and the royalty checks must be distributed. Ice fishing is so yesterday. Today's Alaskans drive to the mall and buy frozen fillets from the Chinese Factory Ships working just past the line - just as all Americans do.


Progress has its price, and Alaskans will willingly pay it, as long as those checks keep coming. :P
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« Reply #2886 on: November 24, 2019, 05:12:26 PM »
Yes, the picey progress to apocalypse  :'(.

I picture those powerful people as an ass (or should I say donkey?) that wants to keep on eating the grass and not move without significant force. The only forces able to do that seem to be the consequences of AGW/biosphere-/civilisation collapse.
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« Reply #2887 on: November 24, 2019, 05:54:15 PM »

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« Reply #2888 on: November 24, 2019, 08:53:01 PM »
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Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) 11/24/19, 12:47 PM
It's been a brutal 2019 in the northernmost city in America— Utqiaġvik, Alaska. So far 89% of days have been warmer than normal, an average of 5.1°C (9.2°F) hotter than typical weather.
The city is now in 24-hour darkness until spring and there's still no local sea ice offshore.

https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/1198659455283580928
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Utqiaġvik streak of consecutive days with the daily average temperature above normal now at 152 days and counting. Utqiaġvik sits on a peninsula, so the loss of sea ice & unprecedented high #SST have dramatic climate impact. #akwx #Arctic @Climatologist49 @ajatnuvuk @CinderBDT907
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« Reply #2889 on: November 24, 2019, 09:09:45 PM »
New Study Reveals Italy At Risk From Extreme Weather
https://www.thelocal.it/20191119/new-study-shows-which-italian-cities-are-most-at-risk-from-extreme-weather

A new Italian study has mapped the areas most likely to be affected by floods, heatwaves and other "extreme weather events" as they become increasingly common.

... Italy was hit by 148 weather-related disasters in 2018, which killed a total of 32 people and left some 4,500 people displaced, according to a new report, titled "The Climate has Changed", released by Italian environmental watchdog Legambiente on Tuesday.

The rising number of extreme events such as storms, floods and heatwaves hitting the country has pushed government spending up in the past five years, according to the report, presented today in Rome as much of the country is dealing with the damage caused by a week of severe storms and flooding.


The map details extreme weather events across Italy in the past five years.

The risk is greatest in cities, the report found.

“Cities are the areas most at risk from the consequences of climate change, because that's where the majority of the population lives and because episodes of rain, tornadoes and heatwaves have increased, and are destined to increase further, along with the estimates of the damage they can cause, the report's authors wrote.

Of all Italian cities, Rome suffered the highest number of extreme weather-related events, the report found, with 33 during 2018.

Milan was next with 25, followed by Genoa 14, Naples 12, Palermo 12, Catania 9, Bari 8, Reggio Calabria 8 and Turin 7.

The report also found that the average temperature in Italian cities is “constantly growing ,and at a faster rate than in the rest of the country.”

The study also highlighted 40 areas that are most at risk in Italy due to rising sea levels.

The list includes coastal cities such as Venice, Trieste, Ravenna, and Pescara, as well as the Gulf of Taranto, La Spezia, Cagliari, Oristano, and Trapani.
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« Reply #2890 on: December 07, 2019, 10:16:54 AM »
I am in total shock with this.
I have stood beside Victoria Falls and felt in awe of it. When I was told it had dried up I didnt believe it.

Sadly, not only it is dry, it has basically disappeared so much it is a cliff face you could climb, or you can simply walk across the top of it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/07/victoria-falls-dries-to-a-trickle-after-worst-drought-in-a-century

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« Reply #2891 on: December 07, 2019, 07:21:07 PM »
Yeah not things you would ever think you would see.

And no, i live in the city so i don´t have much direct reports myself (just that the ducks are having new chicks in september which is a little later then usual).

They were new then so that was rather late in september or beyond the normal system.
I have seen chickens starting in february years ago in years where we have an early spring that starts after a balmy version of winter. 

So yesterday i walk around a corner and there is momma duck with 4 new ones. Real new ones about 2 weeks old. In december! Guess

That was quite unexpected. Wonder how well they will do. We had one coldish day and for the rest it is balmy. Tree looks like it is in spring mode too...

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« Reply #2892 on: December 07, 2019, 08:16:44 PM »
Wauw. Thanks for sharing kassy.
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« Reply #2893 on: December 07, 2019, 09:01:56 PM »
Yeah not things you would ever think you would see.

And no, i live in the city so i don´t have much direct reports myself (just that the ducks are having new chicks in september which is a little later then usual).

They were new then so that was rather late in september or beyond the normal system.
I have seen chickens starting in february years ago in years where we have an early spring that starts after a balmy version of winter. 

So yesterday i walk around a corner and there is momma duck with 4 new ones. Real new ones about 2 weeks old. In december! Guess

That was quite unexpected. Wonder how well they will do. We had one coldish day and for the rest it is balmy. Tree looks like it is in spring mode too...

BTW location netherlands.
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« Reply #2894 on: December 11, 2019, 12:33:47 PM »
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« Reply #2895 on: December 28, 2019, 07:29:12 AM »
A spike in water temperature of up to 6C above average across a massive patch of ocean east of New Zealand is likely to have been caused by an “anti-cyclone” weather system, a leading scientist says.

Appearing on heat maps as a deep red blob, the patch spans at least a million square kilometres – an area nearly 1.5 times the size of Texas, or four times larger than New Zealand – in the Pacific Ocean.

James Renwick, the head of geography, environment and earth sciences at Victoria University in Wellington, said the scale of the temperature spike near the sparsely populated Chatham Islands archipelago was remarkable, and had been building for weeks.

“It’s the biggest patch of above average warming on the planet right now. Normally the temperatures there are about 15C, at the moment they are about 20C,” he said.

Renwick said the blob could be linked to rising atmospheric greenhouse gas emissions, as a result of climate change, but he expected it was overwhelmingly due to natural variability – a strong high pressure system and a lack of wind.

“It’s not uncommon to see patches of warmer water off New Zealand but this magnitude of four, five, up to six degrees is pretty unusual,” Renwick said.
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« Reply #2896 on: December 29, 2019, 03:47:48 AM »
Australia

Sou at HotWhopper on Twitter:
"Old climate in my part of the world
90F/32C = hot, good day for a swim
100F/38C = bloody hot
108F/42C = a real stinker and rare
[117F/47C = practically unheard of]

Now climate
90F/32C = [a cool break]
100F/38C = hot
108F/42C = very hot
[117F/47C = very hot]

Next decade?”

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« Reply #2897 on: December 29, 2019, 06:50:58 PM »
currently 55F in Chicago

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« Reply #2898 on: December 29, 2019, 08:18:55 PM »
Average Temperature here in Connecticut

High 36 F
Low  20 F

Yesterday

High 54 F
Low  41 F

Harvested kale yesterday! There were still whiteflies on it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitefly

Without a hard freeze, those little buggers will be around in the spring time.  :o

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'This is not our winter': Moscow temperatures hit 133-year high
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/12/19/world/science-health-world/not-winter-moscow-temperatures-hit-133-year-high/#.Xgj6tkZKjcs

At a time when snow often blankets the streets and icicles hang from buildings, the temperature in Moscow is expected to reach 6 degrees Celsius (42.8 Fahrenheit) overnight on Wednesday, according to Elena Vosolyuk of the FOBOS weather center.

The last time Moscow was warmer than 5.3 C on Dec. 18 was in 1886, she said. The usual air temperature for Dec. 18 is minus 6.2 C, according to Russia’s Hydrometeorological Research Center.

At Moscow State University’s Apothecary Garden, snowdrops and rhododendron are among flowers that have mistaken the soft soil for the early onset of spring.

“The plants were deceived by this (warm weather) and decided it is spring already, so they are in bloom,” said head gardener Anton Dubinyuk, warning that could mean less color later.

“These flowers will certainly not survive when the cold comes. So there will be no spring blossom,” he said.
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« Reply #2899 on: January 01, 2020, 02:20:12 PM »
Read an article on the dutch weather. It is very mild. A meteorologist said that sea temperatures are so high they will prevent a real winter for the coming month so no real winter cold until february.
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