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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3151 on: June 15, 2020, 01:31:10 AM »
'I've never experienced this before. It's a disaster'

Extreme storm in Calgary, Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/calgary-storm-flooding-hail-1.5611619

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« Reply #3152 on: June 15, 2020, 01:50:47 PM »
Some impressive pictures in there.
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« Reply #3153 on: June 18, 2020, 03:23:36 PM »
Massive Sahara Dust Plume Headed for Southeastern US, Could Bring Sensational Sunsets
https://phys.org/news/2020-06-massive-sahara-plume-southeastern-sensational.html



A large cloud of Saharan dust will blanket the southeast next week, making for dry weather and beautiful sunsets.

.. Right now the cloud is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and is expected to drift over the U.S. by next Tuesday, the Houston Chronicle reported. It will most likely sap some of the humidity from the air, the Chronicle said.

... "The dust is the visible part of the reduced tropical development potential area," Myers said. "It is the dry air and additional vertical wind shear along with the dust that are the driving factors in limiting tropical storm development."

"The dust signifies a very dry layer in the atmosphere, and hurricanes don't like dry air," reports Michigan's MLive.

Moreover, the dry spell could linger for a week or so after the cloud disseminates, MLive said.

The forecast through next week is for a series of high-pressure systems over the Gulf and Atlantic to act as a conveyor belt, steering the dust into Texas through the June 19-21 period

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3154 on: June 22, 2020, 11:46:40 PM »
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According to Dr. Olga Mayol, @UPR_Oficial this is a historic event in PR, unseen in 50-60 years. Image from #Villalba Osvaldo Burgos.
https://twitter.com/adamonzon/status/1275043526104006662 
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3156 on: June 25, 2020, 09:41:45 AM »
Not many have heard about the flash flooding in Mongolia, I presume.

https://news.mn/en/793077/

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Flash flood in central Mongolia kills two and caused major loss
Heavy rain fell in the Tuv and Gobi-Sumber Provinces and caused flash flooding at the weekend. Two people in the Sergelen Soum of Tuv Province were killed by the deluge while herding their livestock. According to the meteorological agency, Zuunmod Soum of Tuv Province recorded 51 mm of rainfall. The flash flood killed 409 livestock, destroyed 53 fences and washed away 10 vehicles. During the incident, a sub-power station in Tuv Province was damaged and 400 homes lost their electricity.

In addition, the major roads connecting Ulaanbaatar and Mandalgobi and Undurkhaan cities were also damaged. Also, part of the structure of the newly-constructed road between Ulaanbaatar and Khushig Valley International Airport was destroyed. A total of 2.8 km of railway between Ulaanbaatar and Choir has been washed away in flooding. In all, 461 people with over special vehicles are working to repair the railway which is expected to re-open tomorrow night.

Although the story doesn't mention it I know other parts of the railroad are still damaged and unusable.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3157 on: June 25, 2020, 10:01:02 PM »
700-km Brazil 'Megaflash' Sets Lightning Record: UN
https://phys.org/news/2020-06-km-brazil-megaflash-lightning.html

The UN's weather agency announced Thursday the longest lightning bolt on record—a single flash in Brazil on October 31, 2018 that cut the sky across more than 700 kilometers.

That is equivalent to the distance between Boston and Washington DC in the United States, or between London and Basel, Switzerland, the World Meteorological Organization said in a statement.

WMO's committee of experts on weather and climate extremes also reported a new world record for the duration of a lightning flash, with a single flash that developed continuously over northern Argentina on March 4, 2019 lasting for a full 16.73 seconds.

The new "megaflash" records, which were verified with new satellite lightning imagery technology, were more than double the previous known record-holders, WMO said.

The previous record for the longest detected distance for a single lightning flash was 321 kilometers (199 miles), measured on June 20, 2007 in the US state of Oklahoma, WMO said.

The previous duration record was 7.74 seconds, measured on August 30, 2012 in southern France, it said.

Megaflashes, he said, "are defined as horizontal mesoscale lightning discharges that reach hundreds of kilometers in length."

The UN agency occasionally reveals quirky weather-related milestones, like in 2016 revealing a record wave measurement of a behemoth that towered 19 meters (62.3 feet)—taller than a six-storey building—above the North Atlantic.

All such records are stored in the WMO Archive of Weather and Climate Extremes.

https://public.wmo.int/en/resources/bulletin/wmo-archive-of-weather-and-climate-extremes
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3158 on: July 06, 2020, 01:02:50 PM »
Japan floods: Country braces for more rain as death toll rises

Japan is bracing for more heavy rain after a weekend of flooding left at least 37 people dead.

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Another 30cm (12 inches) of rain is expected in the next two days.

BBC Tokyo correspondent Rupert Wingfield-Hayes says that, while it is normal for Western Japan to bear the brunt of the rains sweeping out from the tropics during monsoon season, the last two days have seen truly extraordinary amounts of rain falling over the island of Kyushu.

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Japan's Meteorological Agency said such rainfall had never been seen before in the region.

On Saturday night, the Kuma river burst through its levees in numerous places inundating low-lying settlements.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53304726
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3159 on: July 10, 2020, 12:23:59 PM »
Wuhan is having the full 2020 experience

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3092627/covid-19-and-now-floods-wuhan-first-epicentre-pandemic-braces

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Covid-19 and now floods: Wuhan, first epicentre of the pandemic, braces again

Having weathered one major storm in 2020, in the form of an unprecedented health crisis, the central Chinese city faces another
Local residents and officials batten down the hatches as heavy rainfall swells the Yangtze River

Wuhan in central China is bracing for potentially devastating floods as intense downpours pound the surrounding region, threatening the metropolis of over 11 million people with a second disaster as it recovers from the Covid-19 outbreak.
Hubei province, of which Wuhan is the capital, has been hit by at least seven rounds of heavy rain since early June. Each of those has produced average cumulative rainfall of 55.3cm (21.8 inches) and flooded several cities, prompting the provincial government to raise its emergency response to the second-highest tier.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3160 on: July 12, 2020, 06:00:33 AM »
It's weird that any place in the NH is forecast to get colder than -10C this summer weekend. Check it out.

https://www.windy.com/-Temperature-temp?temp,34.083,85.580,5,m:eEDaijr

I'm guessing the cold is primarily at pretty high Himalayan altitude.


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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3161 on: July 12, 2020, 07:02:05 AM »
You have your flag pinned in the coldest point of the Himalayas so its a pretty good bet. ;)

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3162 on: July 12, 2020, 09:06:09 AM »
It's weird that any place in the NH is forecast to get colder than -10C this summer weekend.
That's weird because?
Is that different from other summer weekends in years past? I assume you checked.

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« Reply #3163 on: July 16, 2020, 05:00:31 AM »
This heat wave is going to be epic. Headed for the Great Lakes next.

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« Reply #3164 on: July 16, 2020, 02:08:25 PM »
That 5 degree jump is pretty shocking even if it is Fahrenheit.
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« Reply #3165 on: July 16, 2020, 03:31:25 PM »
This heat wave is going to be epic. Headed for the Great Lakes next.

The Great Lakes has been in a two-week long heat wave already.  The forecast is for slightly cooling temps (~5F) in the coming week.

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« Reply #3166 on: July 18, 2020, 05:52:26 AM »
500 year rainfall event just north of me .
220 millimetres of rain fell in Whangārei from 7pm last night until around 7am this morning.
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https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/clean-up-begins-after-whang-rei-gets-220-millimetres-rain-overnight-metservice-says
Last summer was a  historic drought here we did have water restrictions  .
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« Reply #3167 on: August 11, 2020, 01:46:43 AM »
Derecho With 100 mph Winds Approaches Chicago As It Moves Across the Midwest
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/10/weather/derecho-forecast-chicago-severe-storms/index.html

A line of severe storms on Monday approached downtown Chicago, where a severe thunderstorm warning was in effect.

The storms have produced winds as high as 100 mph as they moved through Iowa and Illinois.

The storms are part of what the National Weather Service's Storm Prediction Center called a "particularly dangerous situation."

Tornado warnings are in effect west of Chicago.

More than 500,000 homes and businesses in the Midwest are without power, including a third of all of customers in Iowa.

The storms are part of a derecho that was moving out of Iowa into northern Illinois, toward Chicago, and that prompted the Storm Prediction Center to issue a PDS thunderstorm watch through 7 p.m. CT Monday.



...THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION...

   * Primary threats include...
- Widespread damaging winds and scattered significant gusts to 100 mph likely
- Isolated large hail events to 1.5 inches in diameter possible
-  A couple tornadoes possible

  SUMMARY...A derecho will rapidly progress across eastern Iowa and northern Illinois this afternoon. Widespread severe wind gusts, some of which should reach 80-100 mph are anticipated along the track of the bow. Brief tornadoes are also possible.

The severe thunderstorm watch area is approximately along and 85 statute miles north and south of a line from 20 miles west southwest of Cedar Rapids IA to 75 miles south southeast of Racine WI. For a complete depiction of the watch see the associated watch outline update (WOUS64 KWNS WOU6)

https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0426.html

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Destructive Derecho Blasts Chicago With Winds Over 70 mph; More Than 1 Million Lose Power In Upper Midwest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2020/08/10/damaging-derecho-takes-aim-chicago-area-with-dangerous-winds-up-100-mph/

https://mobile.twitter.com/weatherdak/status/1292944227685371905



By Monday evening, more than 1 million people were without power in the wake of the storms from eastern Nebraska to northern Illinois as the storms raced eastward into southern Michigan. The storms also crossed Indiana, causing wind damage there, and moved into Ohio near 8 p.m. ET.

Iowa was hardest hit. Several locations clocked wind gusts exceeding 112 mph, while gusts between 75 and 85 mph were common, tearing apart metal silos like a sheet of paper. The storm’s intensity marginally waned as it headed east, but Chicago’s Midway Airport clocked a gust to 73 mph.



As of 8 p.m., Doppler radar indicated that the most intense winds in the derecho had passed Fort Wayne, Ind., and were pushing into northwestern Ohio. Severe weather associated with the same line of thunderstorms extended southwest to St. Louis, Mo., and north into Michigan.

https://twitter.com/bill_line/status/1292897459622928384

Satellite imagery of the impending derecho was revealing on Monday afternoon. Overshooting tops could be seen as bubbles in the overcast along the eastern limb of the cloud mass where intense thunderstorm updrafts lurk. Rippling outward from them were gravity waves, akin to wavelets in a pond, indicating extreme turbulence nearby.

Particularly impressive were the tendril-like high clouds and transverse banding within it — appearing as strips of shading radially outward from the center — illustrating healthy outflow, or storm exhaust, at the upper levels. That’s a common feature on satellite associated with strong hurricanes.

... On the eastern shores of Lake Michigan in southwest Michigan, the derecho was predicted to generate large waves and push high water ashore, prompting a lakeshore flood warning.

https://mobile.twitter.com/nbcchicago/status/1292932371679973383

Numerous reports of significant winds, and at times extreme winds, have been received from across the Corn Belt:

112 mph near Midway, Iowa
106 mph near La Grand, Iowa, measured by personal weather station
100 mph near Hiawatha, Iowa
99 mph at Marshalltown Municipal Airport
99 mph near Albion, Iowa
95 mph estimated near Marshalltown, Iowa
91 mph near Marshalltown, Iowa
90 mph in Atkins, Iowa
90 mph in Blairstown, Iowa
86 mph in Davenport, Iowa
85 mph in Moline, Ill.
78 mph at Ankeny Airport
75 mph at Des Moines airport
72 mph at Midway Airport in Chicago


In Iowa, gusts above 80 mph were ubiquitous with the line of destructive storms.

In Cedar Rapids, Iowa, an eyewitness on social media described “utter destruction.” The Iowa Department of Transportation reported that Interstate 35 and other roads were blocked due to overturned vehicles and storm damage between Cedar Rapids and Iowa City.

https://twitter.com/grabermike/status/1292884786130964481

https://mobile.twitter.com/ashoward1/status/1292938287296974856

https://mobile.twitter.com/WxKanost/status/1292908577162776577
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« Reply #3168 on: August 11, 2020, 05:07:17 PM »
The “Flat Corn” Derecho of August 10, 2020
https://www.woodtv.com/weather/particularly-dangerous-situation-derecho/amp/



... Millions of acres of corn has been blown down. If that wasn’t bad enough, many grain elevators and bins were damaged or destroyed as well.



https://twitter.com/burgwx/status/1292987562571771905

https://mobile.twitter.com/TylerJRoney/status/1292974851993604096

A seiche or meteotsunami occurred on Lake Michigan this evening. The water level rose 1.5 FEET at Benton Harbor:



The strong winds from a line of thunderstorms push the water toward the Michigan shore. The water level rises at a fairly rapid rate. You can get caught out on the piers and breakwaters. As the storm passes, the water sloshes back toward the Illinois and Wisconsin shore. As it does, strong currents are possible, moving from the shore to the west and out toward open water. On July 4, 2003, seven people drowned when caught in currents following a severe thunderstorm in St. Joseph Michigan.
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« Reply #3169 on: August 11, 2020, 07:43:52 PM »
v-m, the linked article says "Tens of thousands of acres of corn was destroyed in the derecho, mainly across Iowa and Illinois. If that wasn’t bad enough, many grain elevators and bins were damaged or destroyed as well."

Not millions of acres.

The June 2012 derecho rolled directly over my house and it was one of the most dramatic meteorological events I've ever experienced.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2012_North_American_derecho
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« Reply #3170 on: August 11, 2020, 09:17:00 PM »
Sorry dnem, I had multiple tabs open on the same subject and combined info. I do all my work on a smartphone and it gets congested sometimes.  I also fact check and correct reporting errors ...

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Powerful Storm Leaves 1 Dead, Heavy Crop Damage in Midwest
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/powerful-derecho-leaves-path-of-devastation-across-midwest/2020/08/10/61dbca08-db69-11ea-b4f1-25b762cdbbf4_story.html?outputType=amp

IOWA CITY, Iowa — Hundreds of thousands across the Midwest remained without power on Tuesday after a powerful storm packing 100 mph winds battered the region a day earlier, causing widespread damage to millions of acres to crops and killing a 73-year-old woman found clutching a young boy in her storm-battered mobile home.

... Farmers reported that some grain bins were destroyed and corn fields were flattened by the storm. Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds said early estimates indicate 10 million acres have been damaged in the nation’s top corn producing state. That would be nearly a third of the nearly 31 million acres of land used for crops in the state. The most significant damage is to the corn crop, which is in the advanced stages of development nearly a month away from the beginning of harvest.

“This morning I had a farmer reach out to me to say this was the worst wind damage to crops and farm buildings that he has ever seen across the state in such a wide area,” Reynolds said

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DES MOINES, Iowa —
Gov. Kim Reynolds issued a disaster proclamation Tuesday for several counties heavily impacted by the derecho that passed through Iowa on Monday.

... Gov. Reynolds said early estimates indicate around 10 million acres of crop damage.

https://www.kcci.com/amp/article/gov-kim-reynolds-issues-emergency-proclamation-for-six-counties/33574873

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It traveled more than 770 miles and left more than 1 million people in the dark


Time lapse radar image





About 80% of all U.S. derechos happen during the months of April, May, June, July, and August. More than 60% happen just during the months of May, June and July. That’s because these wind storms need big-time heat, humidity and “energy” (referred to as CAPE). The late spring and first half of summer are usually when these ingredients all come together
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« Reply #3171 on: August 12, 2020, 05:38:32 AM »
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« Reply #3172 on: August 12, 2020, 08:24:59 AM »
I was impressed too. Never used a smartphone myself but it has no keyboard and such a small screen. Vox, does your home Internet connection work? Were you referring to yourself with "no pay for a week"? (ok, off-topic question, sorry)
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« Reply #3173 on: August 12, 2020, 12:51:36 PM »
Sorry dnem, I had multiple tabs open on the same subject and combined info. I do all my work on a smartphone and it gets congested sometimes.  I also fact check and correct reporting errors ...

A minor error and verified by your other sources. And as the others have said, you make great contributions here. And that you do it all on a phone is almost inconceivable!

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« Reply #3175 on: August 16, 2020, 01:02:42 PM »
Graham Smith, 44, of Lochgelly, said his equipment showed an “unprecedented” 440 lightning strikes per minute at the peak of the storms between 10pm and midnight.

He also recorded a record month’s worth (129mm) of rain in 24 hours with his weather station recording a record unsustained rain rate of 160mm per hour at one point.

“I’ve never seen anything like it,” he told The Courier on Wednesday as he surveyed his data with disbelief and set about mopping up his flooded garage.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/1504708/biblical-thunderstorms-are-further-evidence-of-climate-change-and-the-new-norm-says-fife-weather-enthusiast
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3176 on: August 16, 2020, 01:11:41 PM »
The "/?fbclid=IwAR2x_ryuIv_NDDyJIEdpSIE-2Xw-9LQHo82PSm-xt7XNC-NP9VNiQoVNk8s" part of the link is a facebook tracking code, Glenn. You can (and should IMHO) post links without that and the link still works.

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What is the “thing” about these Facebook tracking codes, b? What the heck do they do? What are they there for, and what is the problem?
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« Reply #3178 on: August 16, 2020, 03:24:41 PM »
If you have an account with Facebook or not, via these tracking links they identify and spy on you.

Good article here >> https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-profiles-zuckerberg-congress-data-privacy

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« Reply #3179 on: August 16, 2020, 04:16:31 PM »
If you have an account with Facebook or not, via these tracking links they identify and spy on you.

Good article here >> https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-profiles-zuckerberg-congress-data-privacy

Offtopic, but if you use Firefox you can install Privacy Badger and Facebook container to keep any site from tracking you. Just a quick tip for those concerned about privacy!

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Offtopic, but if you use Firefox you can install Privacy Badger and Facebook container to keep any site from tracking you. Just a quick tip for those concerned about privacy!
That only protects against one method of tracking you there are others.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3181 on: August 16, 2020, 11:11:19 PM »
The facebook id is just a more visible ID. It is an identifier for the particular facebook user, called, say, Pat for convenience,  who posted the link.  Now lets say Mike, a clueless user, clicks the link. His web browser sends both a referrer URL which identifies the page the link was posted, and tells the target web site the link name. Then, that tells the target to that Mike read the same site that Pat posted the link to, that Mike read that partcular page on which the link was posted, and that Mike followed the link from Pat's post. If Mike now posts that link, including Pat's facebook id on a third site, as some people do here, the same chain can get triggered.

The web site that is the link target can now see requests for the same link posted with different (or no) facebook ids come in on web browser requests, and gets a good idea of how many people follow links in Pat's post, and how many repost Pat's links.

And facebook and many others have web crawlers that index web sites and record all these facebook and other tracking ids embedded in links and so on.

And i havent even mentioned all the cookies, tracking gifs, scripts, browser fingerprint ... there's lots and lots of identifiers ratting Pat and Mike out.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3182 on: August 17, 2020, 12:35:42 AM »
Who Had Fire Tornado On Their 2020 Disaster Bingo Card?
https://www.kolotv.com/2020/08/16/who-had-fire-tornado-on-their-2020-disaster-bingo-card/



RENO, Nev. (KOLO) -Who had fire tornado on their 2020 disaster bingo card?

The National Weather Service in Reno on Saturday warned of a tornado caused by the Loyalton Fire in California west of Reno.

https://mobile.twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1295051721727717376

The weather service can’t say for sure that warning has never been given in the United States before, but no one can find a record of it, Senior Meteorologist Dawn Johnson said.

Once more, there may have been more than one.

Using radar, the weather service counted five vortices – the plural of vortex – but they’re not sure how many of them touched down, a requirement to be labeled a tornado. Photographs and videos they have seen show at least one did.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Destiny22Ginger/status/1294801255076753408

Johnson said the weather service crew working Saturday had no formal method to get word out that the fire could form a tornado, so the weather service went with a conventional tornado warning and pegged it to the Loyalton Fire.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSReno/status/1294753008916430848

... The fire on Sunday dumped a lot of smoke in western Nevada. That smoke impact will likely continue
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3183 on: August 17, 2020, 02:35:42 AM »
Per the climate data in xmACIS2, this is the first time since 1913 that Death Valley has reached 130F. In July 2013, it last reached 129F.  If valid, it would be the hottest August temperature at the site by 3F. 
https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSWPC/status/1295137837361139712



.. but it's a dry heat

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And some amazing San Francisco weather

https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSBayArea/status/1295059478572752896



https://mobile.twitter.com/jadenschaul/status/1294943027257991170

https://mobile.twitter.com/Negative_Tilt/status/1294994377857626115
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3184 on: August 17, 2020, 03:06:27 AM »
Residents in Brazil are grappling with historically cold August, resulting in intense frost sweeping through many areas in Santa Catarina. Another round of extreme cold blast is set to hit next week, affecting a large portion of the southern region.

All-time cold records have been smashed in the municipality of Bom Jardim da Serra. According to the Keizer station network, the area registered -8.8 °C (16.2 °F) last Thursday, August 6.

It was the third consecutive day with temperatures below -8 °C (17.6 °F) and it was also the first time it occurred anywhere in Brazil since records began, according to Sao Joaquim Online.

The extreme cold led to frost in wide swaths of Santa Catarina, including Sao Joaquim and Urupema. Freezing conditions also swept through the Vale dos Vinhedos and the Vale da Invernadinha.

Ponds and lakes froze, water pipes burst, and a considerable amount of crops were blanketed in frost.

https://watchers.news/2020/08/14/brazil-gripped-by-historic-august-cold-another-round-of-cold-blast-to-hit-next-week

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3185 on: August 18, 2020, 01:57:51 AM »

The extreme cold led to frost in wide swaths of Santa Catarina, including Sao Joaquim and Urupema. Freezing conditions also swept through the Vale dos Vinhedos and the Vale da Invernadinha.

Ponds and lakes froze, water pipes burst, and a considerable amount of crops were blanketed in frost.

https://watchers.news/2020/08/14/brazil-gripped-by-historic-august-cold-another-round-of-cold-blast-to-hit-next-week

Not so sure about this. Are they referring to grass minimum temperatures ?

The linked article refers to "Already the dawn of this Friday, 07, the show was again due to the intense cold under the grass of the coldest cities of the Serra Catarinense like São Joaquim, Bom Jardim, Urupema that also registered the formation of frost." (google translate)

The OGIMET data for Sao Joaquim for Friday 7th August gives a min of 11 C and a max of 20 C !

Yes the southern parts of Brazil are sufficiently south to get some frost but it is not that unusual. SJ did record an air frost at the end of the July but I can't see any so far in August. 

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3186 on: August 18, 2020, 02:45:09 AM »
Some followup on the derecho ...



Consumers nationwide could be in store for higher meat prices and increased fuel prices toward the end of the year, Higgins said, adding that it doesn’t stop there.

"Trickle-down effects could even carry over into next year as a direct result of the derecho. A lot of the damaged fields were actually growing corn seeds for planting in the 2021 season. And so farmers are worried that there might be a shortage of seed corn for next year."

https://watchers.news/2020/08/17/historic-august-2020-derecho-destroyed-over-1-million-acres-of-crops/
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3187 on: August 19, 2020, 03:11:32 PM »
China record floods wet feet of Leshan Giant Buddha

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53831271

Check out the pictures on the link.
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3188 on: August 20, 2020, 03:08:20 AM »
Ireland is in the early stages of being battered by the remnants of Kyle and more joining forces as Ellen , named by met eireann .. it'd 2 am and I'm off to get a few more tyres to help hold down the roof of my mobile home .. 24/36 hours to go .. the first front has passed over , wind gusting severe gale with showers .
 https://www.rte.ie/news/weather/2020/0819/1160024-storm-ellen/
 .. 3 25 am update .. gust severity increasing .. no chance of sleeping through this .. goig up on roof while I still have one ..

 before I saw the forecasts tonight I had hoped a severe hit here might help the arctic , but seeing this evening's gfs , polarstern is in a wonderful place to document the consequences ... b.c.
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2007 + 5 = 2012 + 4 = 2016 + 3 = 2019 + 2 = 2021 
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3189 on: August 20, 2020, 04:10:46 AM »
Per the climate data in xmACIS2, this is the first time since 1913 that Death Valley has reached 130F. In July 2013, it last reached 129F.  If valid, it would be the hottest August temperature at the site by 3F. 
This is likely the hottest temperature ever reliably recorded on Earth. The 1913 record of 134F from Death Valley is suspect. See: https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/an-investigation-of-death-valleys-134f-world-temperature-record.html

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« Reply #3190 on: August 21, 2020, 06:56:12 PM »
Pennsylvania, northeastern U.S.
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NWS State College (@NWSStateCollege) 8/20/20, 10:59 AM
PA Drought Update (1/6): It's been feast or famine in the rainfall department over the last 30 days. #Isaias brought >4" [>100mm] of rain to much of eastern PA, resulting in an extreme rainfall surplus. Meanwhile, 1.62" [41mm] in State College since July 1 is 2nd driest for that period. #PAwx
https://twitter.com/nwsstatecollege/status/1296461902546075648
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3191 on: August 21, 2020, 07:24:28 PM »
Ireland is in the early stages of being battered by the remnants of Kyle and more joining forces as Ellen.

I trust you weathered the storm OK b.c?

Here's my "professional" opinion on recent "extreme weather" events, including Ellen:

https://V2G.co.uk/2020/08/bad-weather-batters-global-electricity-grids/

"ESB Networks crews have this morning (Friday) restored power to a further 14,000 homes, farms and businesses. 26,000 remain without power and it is expected that a majority of this remaining cohort will have their power restored this evening. Since the onset of Storm Ellen on Thursday night, ESB Networks has restored power to over 168,000 families. "
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #3192 on: August 21, 2020, 09:57:57 PM »
Hi Jim , I'm battered but unbruised , Roof remains .. catching up on lost sleep.. :) b.c.
2007 + 5 = 2012 + 4 = 2016 + 3 = 2019 + 2 = 2021 
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« Reply #3193 on: August 23, 2020, 05:07:51 PM »
Sightings of several (11) simultaneous waterspouts churning off the states of Louisiana and Mississippi were reported on August 20, 2020​
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScotPilie_Wx/status/1296546834362634264







Video: https://mobile.twitter.com/EdPiotrowski/status/1296624527653437443
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« Reply #3194 on: August 28, 2020, 09:12:12 PM »
Brian Brettschneider (@Climatologist49) just posted this to Twitter. This would be an unprecedented heat event if it pans out.

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« Reply #3195 on: August 29, 2020, 12:54:37 PM »
This would be an unprecedented heat event if it pans out.

That's a super hot ridge baking California during fire season? Is that what the image is saying? Would that generate offshore winds too? Please provide a little context for the image.

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« Reply #3196 on: August 29, 2020, 05:55:14 PM »
That's a super hot ridge baking California during fire season? Is that what the image is saying? Would that generate offshore winds too? Please provide a little context for the image.

It would be some kind of all-time record hot ridge. I don't know whether it would generate winds or not.

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« Reply #3197 on: August 31, 2020, 07:38:36 PM »
Lake levels are rising by 2,5 cm a day. Because of heavy rainfall and deforestation. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/08/kenya-fears-ecological-disaster-rising-lakes-closer-200831163356822.html

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« Reply #3198 on: September 08, 2020, 05:42:30 PM »
It Doesn’t Just Seem Like There Are More Connecticut Tornadoes — There Are!
https://www.ctinsider.com/news/nhregister/article/It-doesn-t-just-seem-like-there-are-more-15544481.php

It’s not Texas, or even Kansas, but Connecticut is beginning to seem like it’s part of a mini-tornado alley.

It’s true that there have been more twisters in the state the last few years: 9 in 2018, breaking the 1973 record of 8, plus 6 so far this year, have put the state well above the average, which has seen fewer than two a year since 1950.

“We’ve been in this pattern here for the last three years where we have big storm tracks to the west,” said Nelson Vaz, warning coordination meteorologist at the National Weather Service office in Upton, N.Y., which covers the southern part of the Connecticut.

The state also had the hottest July on record and August was pretty hot as well, but “there’s no strong correlation that they’ve found at this point” between climate change and increased tornado activity, Vaz said. ...

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Connecticut is about 5 times the size of Luxembourg. Or about the same size as the London or Paris metro area.
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« Reply #3199 on: September 08, 2020, 09:35:11 PM »
Hurricane-Force Winds Slam Utah, Causing Significant Damage, Leave 175K Without Power
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/09/08/wild-winds-slam-northern/



Gusts reaching at least 99 mph were recorded at stations around northern Utah, with the worst winds concentrated north of Salt Lake County, the National Weather Service reported.

... According to the Utah Highway Patrol, several trucks have been blown over and trees and power lines are blocking highways and interstates in those areas.



The National Weather Service clocked winds of 99 mph at Park Lane on U.S. Highway 89, with gusts of 97 mph in Farmington and at Logan Peak, 89 mph at the University of Utah’s Browning Building, and 84 mph at Hill Air Force Base.

“We’ve heard some reports of 100+ mph winds but we do not have access to that data,” NWS meteorologists said on Twitter.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSSaltLakeCity/status/1303348256747876354

Winds 74 mph and faster are classified as “hurricane-force,” according to the National Hurricane Center.

According to the National Weather Service, the strong winds will continue throughout the morning before a lull in the afternoon. But “very strong easterly winds are expected to ramp back up” between Salt Lake City and Ogden on Tuesday night and continue into Wednesday morning. Temperatures — which are expected to top out in the mid-50s on Tuesday — will rise into the low 60s on Wednesday as the low pressure slowly pin-wheels north along the Utah-Colorado border.



https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSSaltLakeCity

Video: https://mobile.twitter.com/UofUCampusStore/status/1303354715720224768

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChaseThomason/status/1303410605517234176

https://mobile.twitter.com/UTHighwayPatrol/status/1303501992237514752


https://twitter.com/KUTV2News/status/1303358028570267649
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