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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2600 on: February 25, 2019, 02:06:18 PM »
It's official. First ever 20C+ recorded in the UK during a winter month.

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1100017946498420738

70F is the next target!

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2601 on: February 25, 2019, 02:09:09 PM »
That's amazing Mr Void.

All the hazels around my house (Palatinate/Germany) are done blossoming already. That's pretty early in the season. Like two weeks early i guess.

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« Reply #2602 on: February 25, 2019, 02:25:53 PM »
Windy weather in Chicago: a door up a tree.


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« Reply #2603 on: February 26, 2019, 02:56:58 AM »
Tweets Tell Scientists How Quickly We Normalize Unusual Weather
https://phys.org/news/2019-02-tweets-scientists-quickly-unusual-weather.html

... The study, published Feb. 25 in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, indicates that people have short memories when it comes to what they consider "normal" weather. On average, people base their idea of normal weather on what has happened in just the past two to eight years. This disconnect with the historical climate record may obscure the public's perception of climate change.

"There's a risk that we'll quickly normalize conditions we don't want to normalize," said lead author Frances C. Moore, an assistant professor in the UC Davis Department of Environmental Science and Policy. "We are experiencing conditions that are historically extreme, but they might not feel particularly unusual if we tend to forget what happened more than about five years ago."

This phenomenon, note the authors, is a classic case of the boiling-frog metaphor.
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« Reply #2604 on: February 26, 2019, 03:04:10 AM »
A little piece of the Sahara in Britain
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a-little-piece-of-the-sahara-in-britain-5rvh7hlvl

The Sahara is in the throes of a big sandstorm, hurling clouds of fine dust high into the atmosphere. Strong winds are expected to sweep north from the Sahara this weekend, depositing dust in the UK. This plume of desert air also explains why the weather is so incredibly mild, with a high of 16.1C recorded at Bala in Gwynedd on Thursday.

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'Blood rain' could fall as weather phenomenon reaches Denmark 
https://www.thelocal.dk/20190212/blood-rain-could-fall-as-red-weather-phenomenon-reaches-denmark/amp

Winds containing dust picked up in the Sahara Desert could result in an unusual colour of weather in Denmark on Tuesday night.

The phenomenon, known as ‘blood rain’, could reach the Scandinavian country on Tuesday night.

“In large parts of Denmark, but particularly in Jutland, we could wake up to a fine layer of red dust on our cars early tomorrow,” Thomas Mørk, meteorologist with TV2, said.
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2605 on: February 26, 2019, 07:06:49 AM »
In my dreams - News from North America next weekend...

"Snow melts as warmth heads south from the Arctic"

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« Reply #2606 on: February 26, 2019, 08:03:10 AM »
In my dreams - News from North America next weekend...

"Snow melts as warmth heads south from the Arctic"

The jetstream must be moving slow because these weather patterns do not want to budge. Everywhere thats cold right now is gonna be boiling hot come summer i bet
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« Reply #2607 on: February 26, 2019, 12:42:26 PM »
Everywhere thats cold right now is gonna be boiling hot come summer i bet

Only if they're cold because they are sat under a high that wont budge! The folk suffering the 'polar plunges' , and those ( like us in the UK ) in the WAA flooding to replace those Arctic losses might not be as 'guaranteed' of their weather in 5 months?

I do think the hemisphere is ever more settled into its 'post 2012' energy budget and the 'reset' that the Rockies do to the polar Jet seems to set up a flow that now leaves the UK close to high Pressure ( a 180 degree flip from our run of washout summers over the late noughties and early this decade) when the pattern 'resets'.

This could lead to issue for the NW Europe this summer if a constant extension of the azores High blocks out our atlantic feed and leaves us baking under a never ending 'blocked high'?
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« Reply #2608 on: February 26, 2019, 02:21:40 PM »
I spoke a few people who fear that pattern.

In the Netherlands we still have a huge ground water deficit left over from last year. A repeat of last years weather would be bad for agriculture and nature in the eastern (slightly higher) part of the country.

Then there are other knock on effects. We have many houses that have wooden poles as part of the foundation. When ground water no longer covers them they start to rot.

Long dutch article about that:
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2019/02/23/palenpest-en-droogte-bedreigen-miljoen-woningen-a3655176

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« Reply #2609 on: February 26, 2019, 04:51:44 PM »
Netherlands?

Are you kidding? There will be no Netherlands in a 100 yrs time. You'd better sell those pricey Amsterdam homes (as long as there are willing buyers thanks to the ECB's zero interest rate policy) and relocate uphill!

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« Reply #2610 on: February 26, 2019, 05:48:12 PM »
Those February records didn't last too long. 21.2C today, earliest date for 70F.

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1100432569617797122

That's the old February recorded beaten by 1.5C now. Crazy that it feels like summer in February.

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« Reply #2611 on: February 26, 2019, 06:11:09 PM »
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The jetstream must be moving slow because these weather patterns do not want to budge.
There are two types of "moving".  Stationary, as is stuck in one place, vs. limping along at 50 mph (or 20 m/s - I wish I could 'limp' that fast).  It has been a little stuck, like a standing wave, but it hasn't been limping - recently an airplane clocked 800 mph (ground speed) with the jet stream assist.
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« Reply #2612 on: February 26, 2019, 06:44:45 PM »


'Ice tsunami' on Lake Erie after strong winds
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2613 on: February 26, 2019, 07:03:22 PM »
Extreme Weather Causes Concerns Over Madison's Water Infrastructure
https://www.wpr.org/extreme-weather-causes-concerns-over-madisons-water-infrastructure



The extreme temperature swings in the past few weeks put pressure on Wisconsin's infrastructure. In Madison, it raised concerns about how water mains will fare as climate change progresses.

The Madison Water Utility responded to 32 water main breaks in one week, from Jan. 28 to Feb. 4, during the polar vortex and rapid thaw. In a single day, Feb. 1, the city experienced seven breaks. ... "That’s a big number for us," said Amy Barrilleaux, public information officer for the Madison Water Utility.

The last time that Madison saw such an influx of main breaks, Barrilleaux said, was during the 2014 polar vortex.

Could incidents of mass breaks become more common as climate change worsens? ... "I think so," said Barrilleaux. "I think this winter is a really interesting example. In early January, there was no frost line in the ground. Last week, it was 4 feet into the ground. That's a huge shift."


Retreating and advancing frost lines cause shifts in pressure, creating cracks.

Some of Madison’s water mains are more than 100 years old, installed in the 1880s when the utility formed, but those aren’t the most troublesome pipes.

The mains most susceptible to breaks were installed in the post-World War II era. They’re made from a less expensive and less durable material: spun-cast iron. A dependable main should last about 100 years, but Barrilleaux said that in Madison and across the country, the baby boom water mains are breaking down after 70 years.

"It's only so much that pipes under the ground can take," Barrilleaux said. "And this winter in particular has been really eye-opening in terms of the swings that we're seeing and that maybe we'll continue to see for some time."
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2614 on: February 26, 2019, 09:14:19 PM »
No Party Like a Donner Party: Amtrak Train with 183 People On Board Stranded in Oregon Snow for 36 Hours   
https://www.popularmechanics.com/adventure/outdoors/a26534051/amtrak-oregon-snow-stranded/

An Amtrak train bound for Los Angeles from Seattle has been marooned on a snowy Oregon railway for more than 36 hours. The train collided with a fallen tree on Sunday evening and got stuck.

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... "We can’t get off the train because there’s four feet of snow in every direction, there’s nowhere to go.”

... Free food provided by Amtrak has been served by crew members eager to help maintain morale. But the cheerful vibes might soon vanish:

Passengers were informed on Tuesday morning that breakfast would be their last meal.


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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2615 on: February 26, 2019, 10:29:25 PM »
Netherlands?

Are you kidding? There will be no Netherlands in a 100 yrs time. You'd better sell those pricey Amsterdam homes (as long as there are willing buyers thanks to the ECB's zero interest rate policy) and relocate uphill!

:) or :(
It really depends if SLR comes from Greenland or Antarctica. IIRC, Greenland melting does not raise relative sea level near the Netherlands, as it is balanced by a reduced local gravitational pull.
OTOH, Antarctica melting would affect the Netherlands disproportionately due to the same effect.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2616 on: February 26, 2019, 10:47:38 PM »
Netherlands?

Are you kidding? There will be no Netherlands in a 100 yrs time. You'd better sell those pricey Amsterdam homes (as long as there are willing buyers thanks to the ECB's zero interest rate policy) and relocate uphill!

:) or :(
Surely the Netherlands will go under long after Miami Beach. They are prepared and have ground to stand on since centuries.



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« Reply #2617 on: February 27, 2019, 12:59:50 PM »
Hopefully the Antarctic glaciers will hold for a while...

Also record temps here , 3 days in a row now but we only got up to 18C today (old record 17,8) and yesterday it was 18,3 (was 17,3).

https://www.nu.nl/binnenland/5764203/voor-de-derde-dag-op-rij-een-datumrecord-door-warm-weer.html

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« Reply #2618 on: February 28, 2019, 07:51:11 AM »
The jet stream has moved on and it's getting colder again here in now not so sunny South West England. Here's the final February 2019 UK surface temperature summary from the Met Office:

https://twitter.com/metoffice/status/1100825391416119297

I went surfing in the sunshine yesterday. The water off North Cornwall takes a lot longer to warm up than the air!
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2619 on: March 01, 2019, 09:17:36 AM »
February temperature broken in Austria yesterday: 24.2 °C in Deutschlandsberg and Güssing (30 km from where I live). Old record was 23.6 °C, set on 29 February 1960 in Bruck an der Mur.
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« Reply #2620 on: March 01, 2019, 10:21:10 AM »
February temperature records broken in Switzerland as well at several locations across the country (mostly in the mountains). Numbers in brackets are old records:

Cimetta, 15.9 °C (15.5, 2012)
La Dôle, 14.1 °C (11.8, 1998)
Zermatt, 13.7 °C (13.0, 1960)
Chasseral, 13.5 °C (12.3, 2007)
Le Moléson, 12.3°C

Furthermore there have been possible new records in the cities of Geneva and Lucerne with 20.1 °C each.

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« Reply #2621 on: March 01, 2019, 12:54:50 PM »
We cant let the Northern Hemisphere get all the headlines.

Australia just broke the summer temp record by being +2C above medium.
No El Nino, which was what held the last record.
We have an El Nino coming soon so I expect the record breaking to continue.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/news/australias-hottest-summer-on-record/529339?

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« Reply #2622 on: March 02, 2019, 05:28:36 AM »
Patrick Duplessis, physics PhD candidate from Halifax, Nova Scotia says on Twitter today:

"This month's map has the most extreme anomalies I've ever shown in my monthly summaries. Coldest Feb since 1936 in the west, which means coldest on record at #Vancouver Airport (data since 1937)! Meanwhile, 9°C warmer than normal for #Inuvik! Eastern numbers pale in comparison..."

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« Reply #2623 on: March 02, 2019, 11:41:12 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/02/uk-temperature-jump-february-incredible-climate-weather-carbon
UK weather: February temperature jump was incredible, says climate expert
Meteorologists look at extent to which unseasonably warm weather is due to carbon emissions


This is the comment from the article I find most interesting...

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Geert Jan van Oldenborgh, a climate researcher at Royal Netherlands Meteorolgical Institute who has conducted a preliminary study of the trend data from Reading and central England, said the probability of this week’s temperatures was close to zero.

“This is an incredible jump in record temperatures. If you asked me a few months ago, I would have said it is ridiculous,” he said. “It’s at least a one-in 200-year event, but it could be more because my statistical tools break down because this was so far outside what we are used to in February.”

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2624 on: March 02, 2019, 09:30:59 PM »

Is this the shape of things to come now?

so many ghost-riders "geisterfahrer" all scotsmen driving on the wrong side LOL [just kidding]

which is why you have so many narrow streets where it doesn't matter ;)

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« Reply #2625 on: March 02, 2019, 09:45:20 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/02/uk-temperature-jump-february-incredible-climate-weather-carbon
UK weather: February temperature jump was incredible, says climate expert
Meteorologists look at extent to which unseasonably warm weather is due to carbon emissions



That's an odd pic in the Guardian. Beast from the East was late Feb/early March 2018. There was very little lying snow in Scotland on 31st Jan 2018. None at low lying levels (M876)

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« Reply #2626 on: March 03, 2019, 07:29:04 AM »
That's an odd pic in the Guardian.

Cherry picking by the Grauniad? Surely not!

North Cornwall on March 18th 2018 versus February 27th 2019:
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« Reply #2627 on: March 03, 2019, 08:30:56 AM »
That's an odd pic in the Guardian.

Cherry picking by the Grauniad? Surely not!

North Cornwall on March 18th 2018 versus February 27th 2019:

Now, this is cherry picking at its best! Take the warmest, nicest end-winter day of the last 100 yrs and compare  it to an unusually cold, snowy midmarch.

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« Reply #2628 on: March 03, 2019, 01:40:13 PM »
That's an odd pic in the Guardian.

Cherry picking by the Grauniad? Surely not!

North Cornwall on March 18th 2018 versus February 27th 2019:

Now, this is cherry picking at its best! Take the warmest, nicest end-winter day of the last 100 yrs and compare  it to an unusually cold, snowy midmarch.

well done

Yes,  that would be like comparing the unusual warmth in Bismarck, ND in March of 2012 to the bitter cold today.

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« Reply #2629 on: March 06, 2019, 04:16:36 AM »
I remember Shared Humanity complaining last summer when Chicago was breaking heat records.  I was there during some of the worst of it.  I guess this is payback for everyone who complained about the heat 🤔


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« Reply #2630 on: March 06, 2019, 05:07:40 PM »
In Aberdeen SD we broke both record low max and record low for the date on March 3rd.  High of -1, low of -20.  February was our coldest February on record.  I think more records will fall before the pattern lets up.  It's just never ending.  Has to be breaking records for continuous cold.  Longest streak of days below average perhaps.

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« Reply #2631 on: March 10, 2019, 03:36:29 PM »
Wettest winter on record for the U.S..  Every state at or above normal precipitation.
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« Reply #2632 on: March 10, 2019, 04:04:48 PM »
Avalanches Menace Colorado as Climate Change Raises the Risk
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Against the backdrop of an 800-foot high mountain wall scarred by avalanches, Arapahoe Basin mountain operations director Tim Finnigan says he can't remember a cycle of winter storms and avalanches in Colorado as extreme as this.

In the past week, masses of snow sliding off mountains shut down ski resorts, damaged gas lines and buried cars on busy highways. Along Interstate 70—a key east-west corridor through the Rocky Mountains—massive clouds of pulverized snow moving at speeds of up to 200 mph pushed pickup trucks into the median and left the road covered with piles of compressed frozen snow as hard as concrete.

Normally, avalanche experts with the Colorado Department of Transportation reduce the risk by releasing controlled avalanches while roads are closed, but the extreme conditions in early March took even seasoned Colorado veterans by surprise, with large avalanches unexpectedly hitting roads while they were open. On March 8, the Colorado Avalanche Information Center said 346 avalanches had been reported in the previous seven days. Two people died in the avalanches.

"CDOT will have to rethink their avalanche work along I-70 after this," Finnigan said as he slurped soup at the Arapahoe Basin lodge after a day of blasting mountain slopes. He has worked in the snow safety field for about 30 years, sometimes triggering controlled avalanches with hand-thrown charges or by cutting into brittle slopes with his skis.


Snow scientists say extreme avalanches are among the accelerating impacts of climate change in mountain regions. Global warming can affect avalanches in several ways:

• More moisture in a warmer atmosphere can fuel more extreme snowstorms, which means bigger avalanches.
• Warmer temperatures can make snow layers collapse and slide.
• More rain-on-snow events also destabilize snow layers.
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He recently surveyed 240 avalanche experts and snow scientists to learn how global warming is changing the risks associated with dangerous snow slides.

"The findings were really consistent, with an increase in observed avalanches, and even more predicted, especially wet snow and wet slab avalanches, because that's related to warming temperatures," he said. ...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/08032019/avalanche-climate-change-risk-snow-storm-forecast-colorado-switzerland
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« Reply #2633 on: March 11, 2019, 08:55:43 AM »
Germany: Storms Halt Trains, Disrupt Motorways, Aviation   
https://dw.com/en/germany-storms-halt-trains-disrupt-motorways-aviation/a-47844905



As the evening approached, the DWD has predicted gusts of up to 120 kilometers per hour (75 miles per hour).

Similar velocities had been recorded in Belgium, said another service, wetter-online, based in Bonn.

Sweeping in across Britain from the northern Atlantic, "Eberhard" more or less tracked an earlier storm, "Dragi," that swept Germany on Saturday, prompting alerts by meteoalarm, a multilingual European weather service.
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« Reply #2634 on: March 11, 2019, 02:18:36 PM »
Australian Climate Tool Identifies End of Winter by 2050 
https://phys.org/news/2019-03-australian-climate-tool-winter.html

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... The new climate tool visualises data which shows by 2050, Australians will no longer enjoy winter as they know it today and will experience a new season the designers are calling "New Summer".

New Summer represents a period of the year where temperatures will consistently peak in many cases well above 40ºC for a sustained period. 

On my stove, that setting is called BROIL!

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« Reply #2635 on: March 11, 2019, 03:27:06 PM »
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The Elfstedentocht translates to “eleven cities tour.” It’s an ice skating race that measures about 135 miles and takes place on the canals that connect the 11 cities in the Friesland province of the Netherlands. The 110-year-old event is wildly popular — the next race is expected to attract 26,000 participants, 2 million spectators and 3,000 journalists and will surely draw the attention of nearly every person in the country — largely because of the long wait and grim forecast associated with it.

The race only takes place when conditions allow; when extreme winter bowls over the region, the temperatures drop, and the canals freeze over. But the Netherlands is no longer a romantic wintry wonderland, and there hasn’t been an Elfstedentocht since 1997, marking the longest drought ever between races. Climate change has endangered the race and is slowly dousing hopes across the province.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2019/03/07/feature/in-the-netherlands-ice-skating-is-in-the-dna-a-warming-climate-could-change-that/?utm_term=.25af49c6a376
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Warmer temperatures have caused race organizers in Alaska to alter the Iditarod’s route in recent years, and across both Canada and the United States, there are fewer frozen ponds safe enough for outdoor hockey. The ski and snowboard season starts later, and many resorts increasingly rely on man-made snow. One study estimates the ski season could be 50 percent shorter by 2050.
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Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #2636 on: March 13, 2019, 12:35:13 AM »
Winds Near Hurricane Strength to Whip Central US, with White-Outs, Floods and Tornadoes Possible, Too   
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/03/12/us/winter-storm-blizzard-snow-rain-wxc/index.html

An intense and sprawling winter storm is expected to develop starting Tuesday across the Great Plains, delivering hurricane-force wind gusts, severe rain, heavy snow and floods for days across a wide swath of the central United States. 

... "While not a tropical system, winds will rival what's seen in a Category 1 hurricane," said weathermodels.com meteorologist Ryan Maue.

The worst weather should be in the Plains, from Texas up to the Dakotas. "We expect a major blizzard to unfold with winds likely to approach hurricane force, heavy snow and massive drifts," according to AccuWeather meteorologist Alex Sosnowski....



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The Central U.S. Is About to Get Hit With a Bomb Cyclone   
https://earther.gizmodo.com/the-central-u-s-is-about-to-get-hit-with-a-bomb-cyclon-1833239904

... On Wednesday, as the storm pushes inland, its pressure—which drops as storms get stronger—is expected to dip into the range of 970 millibars. That’s roughly on par with an average Category 2 Atlantic hurricane and could challenge the all-time low pressure record for Kansas. The drop will be driven by the storm’s winds as they wrap around its core in a counter clockwise direction, bringing moist, warm air from the Gulf of Mexico in contact with cold air from the Upper Midwest and Canada. The movement of the winds is called cyclonic, and pressure is expected to drop more than 24 millibars in 24 hours, which means this storm is shaping up to fulfill the criteria for a rare inland bomb cyclone. It could even take on a hurricane-like appearance.

...  some models are indicating that this storm will strengthen so quickly, it could develop an eye-like feature in the center of the storm. This is a very rare for non-tropical systems and even more so for storms in the central U.S.”
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« Reply #2637 on: March 13, 2019, 04:04:22 AM »
I am currently holed up in Colorado, with enough supplies to weather the storm.

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« Reply #2638 on: March 13, 2019, 12:34:38 PM »
I am currently holed up in Colorado, with enough supplies to weather the storm.
This storm - Storm Ulmer - is dead interesting as a tale of 2 halves.
To the West - SNOW
To the East - RAIN

It is a classic conflict twixt warmth and cold, and could be the last big one in the lower 48 of the USA for some time.

Wunderground.com has a good set of articles on the different parts of the storm and also a look at weather from next week.

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Thursday's Severe Thunderstorm Forecast
Flooding Concerns in Plains and Midwest

In addition to the severe weather threat, heavy rain will likely lead to areas of flash flooding and river flooding in parts of the Plains and Midwest this week. The heaviest rain is expected to fall from now through Thursday.

Flood watches have been issued by the National Weather Service from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan southwestward to Kansas and eastern Colorado.

Flood Alerts
A broad swath of the central and southern Plains, Mississippi Valley and mid-South is expected to receive 1 to 3 inches of rain on already-saturated ground through Friday.

As temperatures warm up, any lingering snowpack will melt, adding additional runoff onto frozen soils unable to absorb the water. It is advised to clear any snow and ice from storm drains before the heavy rain arrives to help reduce the risk of flooding.

Ice jams will also be a major concern on frozen rivers as mild temperatures cause the ice to break up, which could become clogged in river bends or against obstructions such as bridges. As a result, a water rise would occur and may flood locations upstream from the jam. When a jam breaks up, flooding can occur in downstream locations.
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« Reply #2639 on: March 13, 2019, 11:00:07 PM »
I am currently holed up in Colorado, with enough supplies to weather the storm.
Klondike, it looks like you are in the middle of a record breaker called Ulmer.  Lots of articles in Wunderground.com

Winter Storm Ulmer became a bomb cyclone in the High Plains of southeastern Colorado on Wednesday, when its central pressure dropped 24 millibars in just 13 hours.

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The name Ulmer is a Norse baby name. In Norse the meaning of the name Ulmer is: Famous wolf.
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« Reply #2640 on: March 13, 2019, 11:07:57 PM »
 97 mph wind gust confirmed at Colorado Springs Municipal Airport!

Not a tornado, or hurricane, or tropical storm.  A winter storm!

Image: wind at 850 hpa — roughly 5,000 feet (1,500 meters).
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« Reply #2641 on: March 14, 2019, 12:32:45 AM »
I am currently holed up in Colorado, with enough supplies to weather the storm.
Klondike, it looks like you are in the middle of a record breaker called Ulmer.  Lots of articles in Wunderground.com

Winter Storm Ulmer became a bomb cyclone in the High Plains of southeastern Colorado on Wednesday, when its central pressure dropped 24 millibars in just 13 hours.

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The name Ulmer is a Norse baby name. In Norse the meaning of the name Ulmer is: Famous wolf.

We appear to be far enough west to avoid the worst of the storm.  More snow, but less wind.  Looks beautiful from our warm confines.

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« Reply #2643 on: March 14, 2019, 07:12:45 AM »


https://www.al.com/news/2019/03/noaa-historic-blizzard-unfolding-in-the-plains.html?outputType=amp



The storm is bringing hurricane winds to the Rockies and as far away as Amarillo, Texas. Winds gusts equivalent to Category 1 and 2 hurricane winds were reported at the Denver International Airport and in Colorado Springs, the National Weather Service.

In New Mexico, heavy winds contributed to the derailment of a 26-car train near the village of Logan, according to a tweet from state police. No injuries were reported.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1105918488508579843

Storm set to intensify overnight

Wind gusts of 50 to 70 mph are expected through Thursday morning across Colorado, New Mexico, Texas and Oklahoma, CNN meteorologist Monica Garrett said. Some areas could see gusts as strong as 110 mph.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1105935674039885824

The NWS reported that Dodge City, Kansas, saw its lowest recorded barometric pressure in more than 100 years. A reading of 28.78 inches of mercury (974.9 millibars) was recorded Wednesday at the Dodge City Airport, shattering the previous record of 974.9 millibars, which was set in 1960 and stood for more than 100 years

https://twitter.com/i/status/1105891061195591682 


https://twitter.com/i/status/1106003065042321408  :) :)

The highest recorded wind gust (through 9 pm CDT) for this event belongs to Pine Springs, Texas with a gust of 103 MPH earlier today.  Find a full list of wind and snowfall reports in our latest storm summary here:

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/nfdscc2.html
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« Reply #2644 on: March 14, 2019, 07:58:34 AM »


Starting to look like 'The Day After Tomorrow'
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« Reply #2645 on: March 14, 2019, 01:48:45 PM »
U.S.: scenes from the winter side of the storm.

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Darin Brooks (@UtahWxMan)
3/13/19, 4:28 PM
Whoa...watch the shopping cart corral
https://twitter.com/utahwxman/status/1105928595497799683
Video clip: extreme winds, snow, near whiteout conditions. Colorado.

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WRECKAGE ON THE ROADS - This is why as meteorologists we try to give you as much notice as possible to terrible weather. This video was taken between Monument & Castle Rock, south of Denver off of I-25 Wednesday AM. Drive safe everyone!
https://twitter.com/garofalowx/status/1105971804189806593
Video clip passing highway vehicle pile-up. Colorado.

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NWS Rapid City (@NWSRapidCity)
3/13/19, 7:28 PM
Well, that was a fun balloon launch...
https://twitter.com/nwsrapidcity/status/1105973964172611585
Video clip.  South Dakota.

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« Reply #2646 on: March 14, 2019, 08:06:16 PM »
Meanwhile in Alaska, clear skies and warm weather and an open Bering Sea greet the front runners of the Iditarod sled dog race. Note the mushers with bad hands and no hat. Mushers were wearing rain gear a few days earlier.
https://iditarod.com/eye-on-the-trail-julien-takes-cape-nome/

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« Reply #2647 on: March 15, 2019, 12:38:52 AM »
German Town Hit by Tornado 
https://dw.com/en/german-town-hit-by-tornado/a-47904211

A tornado carved "a path of destruction" through the German town of Roetgen, sweeping away roofs and breaking windows, firefighters said. Another storm is set to hit Germany soon.

Over 30 homes were damaged and five people injured when a strong wind funnel ripped through the town of Roetgen in western Germany.

Large-scale destructive tornados are relatively rare in Germany. Even so, German meteorologists noted 17 tornadoes in Germany last year.
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« Reply #2648 on: March 15, 2019, 03:40:11 AM »
Here are pictures from my farm after the blizzard.  Incredible.  If it was open before, it is still open after the blizzard.  Lots of bare road surfaces.  But if it was drifted before, oh boy, is it ever drifted.  Most of the area behind the outbuildings is 6-8 feet deep, with crests higher than that.

http://imgur.com/gallery/zChc4R7

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« Reply #2649 on: March 15, 2019, 05:21:30 AM »
Here are pictures from my farm after the blizzard.  Incredible.  If it was open before, it is still open after the blizzard.  Lots of bare road surfaces.  But if it was drifted before, oh boy, is it ever drifted.  Most of the area behind the outbuildings is 6-8 feet deep, with crests higher than that.

http://imgur.com/gallery/zChc4R7
That is absolutely bonkers. I wonder how bad the Mississippi flooding could get this spring. The river is already flooding in many locations.