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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2800 on: July 11, 2019, 11:09:24 AM »
Six Tourists Killed by Tornadoes and Hailstorms in Greece
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-48945821

Six tourists have been killed and at least 30 other people injured in a violent storm that swept across a region of northern Greece.

Gale-force winds, heavy rain and hailstorms lashed Halkidiki, near the city of Thessaloniki, late on Wednesday, officials say.

...A state of emergency was declared and more than 100 rescue workers deployed.

Charalambos Steriadis, head of civil protection in northern Greece, described it as an "unprecedented phenomenon".

The storm followed a spell of very hot weather in Greece with temperatures soaring to 37C (98F) over the past two days.

This is the latest in a series of other extreme weather events across Europe in recent weeks. A heat-wave brought record June temperatures to several countries.

Golf ball-sized hail has been reported in parts of the south of France and Italy and there were forest fires in Sicily on Wednesday, including in popular beach resort areas.
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2802 on: July 13, 2019, 09:58:52 PM »
“There are three classes of people: those who see. Those who see when they are shown. Those who do not see.” ― Leonardo da Vinci

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« Reply #2803 on: July 22, 2019, 09:57:19 PM »
Northernmost Alaska.
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Rick Thoman (@AlaskaWx) 7/21/19, 9:43 PM
The Chukchi Sea offshore of Utqiaġvik has been largely #seaice free since early June and July is sure to have 0% ice coverage. The change in July extent since the 1990s is astounding. Sunday PM photo courtesy @IARC_Alaska. #akwx #Arctic
https://twitter.com/alaskawx/status/1153118308083703808
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« Reply #2804 on: July 23, 2019, 11:28:49 AM »
Sig


That's one hell of a graph. I've never seen anything that shows the rebound years so vividly.


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« Reply #2805 on: July 23, 2019, 04:42:25 PM »
Sig


That's one hell of a graph. I've never seen anything that shows the rebound years so vividly.


Terry

This graph certainly does show that recent alternating years have ice/no ice in July. However, I'm unclear how this illustrates a rebound as opposed to randomness.

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« Reply #2806 on: July 23, 2019, 06:19:12 PM »
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I'm not suggesting any rebound of over one year's duration.
I probably should have written:
"I've never seen the yearly oscillating years graphed so vividly"


A high ice year followed by a crash followed by a high ice year followed by another crash.


Through time the low ice years become no ice years even as the high ice years diminish.
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2807 on: July 23, 2019, 10:14:14 PM »
Tornado near my hometown. Tornados are rather unusual for Palatinate/Germany.

https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/ludwigshafen/Unwetter-in-der-Suedpfalz-Tornado-zerstoert-zahlreiche-Haeuser,tornado-104.html

Another very near me close to Manchester, UK last friday
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/tornado-tore-through-diamond-wedding-16621475

Small tornados are not unknown in Britain, but not common. Fortunately, as far i know no-one was hurt. A 4m branch was blown off a tree, narrowly missed a pedestrian and hit our neighbour's petrol car, but spared his electric one :),   and three chimney-pots from the old and rarely used coal fires were blown onto our roof from our other neighbours

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2808 on: July 24, 2019, 09:25:35 PM »
We had a heatwave here last week, peaking on Saturday with 104F (40c) with a "feels like" of a million f….ing degrees.  Ok ok we all see/experience a little heat wave once and awhile.  Sunday was cooling off day and Monday was forecasted to rain … so, ok, a little rain, a good thing, right?  It doesn't just rain any more, this rain brought 70mph wind that knock-out power to 360,000 folks across NJ.  The power (A/C) just came back on 30 minutes ago.  Awhile back, say 2013 I had read a paper called Climate disruption date or some such crap…the paper called DC and NY as having a date of 2047 meaning one would not recognize the place due to climate change in 2047, bullsh!t, it's 2019 and I hardly recognize a place where I've lived for 40 yrs.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2809 on: July 27, 2019, 09:04:04 PM »
Hordes of Grasshoppers Have Invaded Las Vegas
https://earther.gizmodo.com/las-vegas-is-literally-crawling-with-grasshoppers-1836757418
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/07/26/us/grasshoppers-invade-las-vegas-scn-trnd/index.html

Massive swarms of grasshoppers have descended upon Las Vegas this week, and it's startling some residents.

For Lyft driver Jessica Palmore, driving through the buggy night along the Strip is startling.

"When I see them, it's like being in a movie. Never seen nothing like this ever!" Palmore said Friday.

Palmore captured video of the bugs flying above the iconic Luxor Hotel & Casino on Thursday night.

https://twitter.com/365inVegas/status/1154654951374594048

... "We have records clear from the '60s of it happening, and I have seen it ... at least four or five times in my 30-plus years," Knight said. "There are some special weather conditions that trigger the migration."

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Once upon a time, seeing masses of insect around a street light was a normal summer experience. Not anymore!

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2810 on: July 27, 2019, 09:47:12 PM »
I lived in Las Vegas from 1975-2004 and I never saw an invasion of grasshoppers. June bugs yes, cicadas yes, grasshoppers never.


Wonder where they're coming from & what conditions caused this infestation?
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« Reply #2811 on: August 05, 2019, 10:30:06 PM »
"Weird weather" should not be applied on one place or region, when we can see weird weather globally  :( :

Here’s how the hottest month in recorded history unfolded around the globe
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On Monday, data from a European climate agency made official what Guterres and others warned was likely: July was the warmest month the world has experienced since record-keeping began more than a century ago.

The Copernicus Climate Change Service, a program of the European Union, calculated that last month narrowly edged out July 2016 for the dubious distinction of hottest month on record. The month was 1.01 degrees (0.56 Celsius) above the 1981 to 2010 average, “which is close to 1.2 Celsius above the preindustrial level as defined by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)," the agency said in a statement. The month beat July 2016 by about 0.07 degrees (0.04 Celsius).

Scientists found that the planet is on pace for one of its hottest years, and the data all but guarantee that the period from 2015 to 2019 will go down as the warmest five-year period on record.

“July has rewritten climate history, with dozens of new temperature records at [the] local, national and global level,” Petteri Taalas, secretary general of the World Meteorological Organization, said in announcing the month’s historic implications. “This is not science fiction. It is the reality of climate change. It is happening now, and it will worsen in the future without urgent climate action.

"The monthly temperature spike was driven largely by record warmth in Western Europe, including the searing heat wave that made its way to the Arctic and culminated in one of the most significant melt events ever recorded in Greenland. The Greenland ice sheet poured 197 billion tons of water into the North Atlantic in July alone — enough to raise global sea levels by 0.5 millimeters, or 0.02 inches.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/08/05/heres-how-hottest-month-recorded-history-unfolded-around-globe/
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50% [NSIDC Extent] or
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Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2812 on: August 06, 2019, 01:22:17 AM »
It is a global phenomenon Juan, but some areas are being hit far harder than others.
I've always thought of this thread as being reserved for negative examples of change. ???

Palm trees on the north side of Lake Erie are a prime example of global warming - but hardly a problem for local businesses catering to beach tourism.
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« Reply #2813 on: August 06, 2019, 01:50:48 AM »
It is a global phenomenon Juan, but some areas are being hit far harder than others.
I've always thought of this thread as being reserved for negative examples of change. ???

I could agree with you, Terry, but the problem with this article is choosing a single place (some are repeated):

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Officials in Switzerland and elsewhere painted stretches of rail tracks white, hoping to keep them from buckling in the extreme heat.

At the port of Antwerp, Belgium, two alleged drug dealers called police for help after they got stuck inside a sweltering shipping container filled with cocaine.

Wildfires raged across millions of acres in the Arctic.

A massive ice melt in Greenland sent 197 billion tons of water pouring into the Atlantic Ocean, raising sea levels.

And temperature records evaporated, one after another: 101.7 degrees Fahrenheit in Cambridge, England, and 108.7 in Paris. The same in Lingen, Germany.

The monthly temperature spike was driven largely by record warmth in Western Europe

From scorching heat in Europe to gargantuan wildfires in Siberia and Alaska, the record heat of July 2019 left its mark on people and the ecosystems they depend on.

Alaska also saw its warmest month on record

Arctic sea ice was at a record low for the month.

In Canada, a military installation in Alert, Nunavut — the northernmost permanently inhabited place on Earth — recorded 69.8 degrees on July 14, breaking a record set in 1956.

In Belgium, one zoo fed its tigers with chickens frozen in blocks of ice. In Paris, local officials set up impromptu “cooling rooms” in each neighborhood where people could find air conditioning and cold water.

In parts of Germany, authorities were forced to lower autobahn speed limits over concerns that the high-speed motorways might suffer heat damage.

Damodhar Ughade, a cotton farmer in the village of Seeras in western India’s Vidarbha region, felt like he was reliving a nightmare in July after a devastating heat wave the month before.

While droughts due to delayed monsoons are not infrequent, this year was the worst since 1972, when scores of people left their arid villages and migrated to cities. As temperatures soared to 102 degrees, Ughade’s fields lay parched, his livestock starved, and the village ran out of drinking water.

In England, 22-year-old Andrea D’Aleo had the unenviable job of shuttling passengers down the River Cam — the main river that flows through Cambridge, a scenic university town about 60 miles north of London. He was standing at the back of a long, flat-bottomed boat, digging a long pole against the river bed. Normally, he said, umbrellas are used to fend off rain showers, but on Thursday, tourists used them as parasols.

“This year alone, we have seen temperature records shattered from New Delhi to Anchorage, from Paris to Santiago, from Adelaide and to the Arctic Circle,” Guterres said. “If we do not take action on climate change now, these extreme weather events are just the tip of the iceberg. And, indeed, the iceberg is also rapidly melting.”

And the authors forgot to mention other events, like the floodings in central USA and the later hurricane Barry in front of Louisiana (the delta of the flooded Mississippi).

So, my point is that "weird weather" or the "negative examples of change" were at global scale on July 2019.
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Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #2814 on: August 06, 2019, 03:44:12 AM »
What horrors we have unleashed.
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« Reply #2815 on: August 06, 2019, 07:28:00 AM »
Yes, but to all other life on Earth, we are the horror.

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« Reply #2816 on: August 06, 2019, 11:02:26 AM »
That's because we have become globalists. You bring energy from place A to place B, you bring food from place B to place C, you bring raw materials from place X to place A...... And that's how all populations keep growing. I have family in Russia, in Asia and the US. We fill up every little hole on this planet, until there is nothing left.

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« Reply #2817 on: August 08, 2019, 12:41:26 AM »
Alaska's sea ice has completely melted away
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The most rapidly changing state in the U.S. has no sea ice within some 150 miles of its shores, according to high-resolution sea ice analysis from the National Weather Service. The big picture is clear: After an Arctic summer with well above-average temperatures, warmer seas, and a historic July heat wave, sea ice has vanished in Alaskan waters.
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In the continually warming Arctic, sea ice has completely melted around the Alaskan coast before, notably during 2017's melt season, but never this early. "It's cleared earlier than it has in any other year," said Thoman. (Sea ice starts regrowing again in the fall, when temperatures drop.)

Arctic sea ice has been either been at record lows or flirting with record lows throughout much of the summer. "I’m losing the ability to communicate the magnitude [of change]," Jeremy Mathis, a longtime Arctic researcher and current board director at the National Academies of Sciences, told Mashable in June, when sea ice levels were at their lowest point in the satellite record for that period. "I’m running out of adjectives to describe the scope of change we’re seeing." ...
https://mashable.com/article/alaska-sea-ice-melt-2019/
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2818 on: August 08, 2019, 04:19:20 PM »
Jet Stream Study Confirms Aircraft Turbulence Risk from Climate Change
https://phys.org/news/2019-08-jet-stream-aircraft-turbulence-climate.html

Climate change is having a greater impact on the jet stream than previously thought, according to a new study published in Nature.

Scientists at the University of Reading have discovered that the jet stream has become 15 percent more sheared in the upper atmosphere over the North Atlantic since satellites began observing it in 1979.

Because wind shear generates turbulence, the new study provides the first observation-based evidence to support previous Reading research that human-induced climate change will make severe turbulence up to three times more common by 2050-80.

This means that airline passengers will have a much bumpier ride in future, if climate change continues unabated.

... The new study shows for the first time that, whilst the temperature difference between Earth's poles and the equator is narrowing at ground level because of climate change, the opposite is happening at around 34,000 feet—a typical airplane cruising altitude.

The jet stream is driven by these temperature differences, and the strengthening trend at cruising altitudes is causing an increase in turbulence-driving wind shear, which had gone unnoticed until now.

This strengthens previous projections for increased clear-air turbulence, as we can see an increase in one of the driving forces has happened already. This has serious implications for airlines, as passengers and crew would face a bigger risk of injury.


... Yeah, take it away, Ernie. Fasten your safety belts, clench your buttocks!  It's goin' to be a BUMP-Y ride!

Simon H. Lee et al. Increased shear in the North Atlantic upper-level jet stream over the past four decades, Nature (2019).

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Silver lining - shear disrupts hurricanes
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« Reply #2819 on: August 08, 2019, 04:30:32 PM »
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This means that airline passengers will have a much bumpier ride in future, if climate change continues unabated.
The understatement of the century.

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« Reply #2820 on: August 08, 2019, 04:43:15 PM »


This strengthens previous projections for increased clear-air turbulence, as we can see an increase in one of the driving forces has happened already. This has serious implications for airlines, as passengers and crew would face a bigger risk of injury.
 

It will be interesting to note when passengers are issued helmets, and flight attendants are issued gear that makes them look like ice hockey players.

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« Reply #2821 on: August 08, 2019, 05:01:03 PM »


Radioman: [shouting amiably over the engines] So you don't like flyin', huh? This is nothin'! You shoulda been with us five, six months ago! Whoa, talk about puke! We ran into a hailstorm over the Sea of Japan! Everyone was retchin' his guts out! The pilot shot his lunch all over the windshield, and I barfed on the radio - knocked it out completely! It wasn't that lightweight stuff, either; it was that chunky, industrial-weight puke! [proferring a candy bar] Here, ya wanna bite?

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« Reply #2822 on: August 08, 2019, 05:18:49 PM »


This strengthens previous projections for increased clear-air turbulence, as we can see an increase in one of the driving forces has happened already. This has serious implications for airlines, as passengers and crew would face a bigger risk of injury.
 

It will be interesting to note when passengers are issued helmets, and flight attendants are issued gear that makes them look like ice hockey players.

Would you rather have a person who knows how to open a door to be alive after the crash or a bunch of know nothing fat passengers.
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« Reply #2823 on: August 08, 2019, 05:35:32 PM »
Depends on how much the plane has in terms of provisions :P

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« Reply #2824 on: August 10, 2019, 07:25:42 PM »
News reports 100 roofs blown off houses and $ millions of damage in a tornado in Luxemburg .. b.c.
2007 + 5 = 2012 + 4 = 2016 + 3 = 2019 ...

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« Reply #2825 on: August 11, 2019, 12:26:04 PM »
Sun disappears over sub-Arctic Verkhoyansk district of Yakutia. Wildfires and CO held culprits:

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There was no trace of light until after 8am local time over the Verkhoyansk district in the north of Yakutia.

Almost exactly a year ago - in July 2018  - there was another pitch black morning over three major areas of Yakutia, Eveno-Bytantaisky, Zhigansky and the same Verkhoyansky district.

Darkness which had a yellow tinge lasted for over three hours and was followed by drop in air temperature. 

The territory impacted by the gloom was larger than Italy.

This time weather experts thought the blackout was caused by smoke from wildfires mixing with heavy rain clouds, and they didn’t register change in temperature
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It was a high amount of carbon monoxide in the air that sped up and intensified the process of clouds formation, said chief specialist of Fobos weather station Yevgeny Tishkovets.

‘This situation can be compared to what is happening during cloud spiking which is done to cause rain. The cloud cover was as thick as it can possibly be,  add to this the wildfires smoke and precipitation. This is still, of course, rather approximate and we need to analyse what happened in a lot more details’, he said on Yakutia-24 TV channel.

The Fobos weather centre shared two maps, one showing extremely high amounts of carbon monoxide (7,19mg/m3 while the allowed maximum is 5mg/m3) in the air, and another one confirming very high level of cloudiness.

Currently heaviest wildfires are in the south of Yakutia, with smoke moving north.

More, with pictures, from that fount of weirdness, The Siberian Times (9 August)

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« Reply #2826 on: August 11, 2019, 02:34:22 PM »
Apocalyptic!!!

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« Reply #2827 on: August 17, 2019, 09:28:33 PM »
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If lightning strikes a few hundred miles from the North Pole, and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Yes, because there’s a global array of sensors that’s always listening, pinpointing lightning strikes in time and space from as far away as 6,000 miles.

This past weekend the North Pole played host to a rare thunderstorm, an event that may become less rare as climate change ramps up. And it would have gone entirely unnoticed by faraway humans if it weren’t for the assistance of a company called Vaisala, which operates the sensor network and uses it to triangulate a lightning strike, feeding the data to outfits like the National Weather Service. “This is a relatively new system, and so our ability to detect lightning that far north has drastically improved over the last 5 to 10 years,” says Alex Young, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Fairbanks, Alaska. “As opposed to: who knows if an event like this happened 30 years ago?”
The Bonkers Tech That Detects Lightning 6,000 Miles Away
https://www.wired.com/story/lightning-tech/
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« Reply #2828 on: August 18, 2019, 05:03:29 AM »
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If lightning strikes a few hundred miles from the North Pole, and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? Yes, because there’s a global array of sensors that’s always listening, pinpointing lightning strikes in time and space from as far away as 6,000 miles.

This past weekend the North Pole played host to a rare thunderstorm, an event that may become less rare as climate change ramps up. And it would have gone entirely unnoticed by faraway humans if it weren’t for the assistance of a company called Vaisala, which operates the sensor network and uses it to triangulate a lightning strike, feeding the data to outfits like the National Weather Service. “This is a relatively new system, and so our ability to detect lightning that far north has drastically improved over the last 5 to 10 years,” says Alex Young, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Fairbanks, Alaska. “As opposed to: who knows if an event like this happened 30 years ago?”
The Bonkers Tech That Detects Lightning 6,000 Miles Away
https://www.wired.com/story/lightning-tech/


It's funny Sig, but I don't remember winter thunderstorms in Canada. They do occur from time to time now, but they're still rare.


Having thunder at the North Pole may be scaring the bejeez out of everything out there that can hear it. It's a shame the microphones weren't in place 50 years ago.


I wonder if any Whaling Ship logs mention thunder in the far north.
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« Reply #2829 on: August 20, 2019, 08:08:22 AM »
I went thru the badlands a week ago and saw it as i had never had before.  Green. They had unseasonal rain this late, when all should be dead and dessicating. Millions of butterflies (and stinging insects)

I attach image.

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« Reply #2830 on: August 20, 2019, 02:01:54 PM »
Beautiful picture Sidd.

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« Reply #2831 on: August 20, 2019, 06:42:46 PM »
If i have to belief Ventusky, than we are going for our 3th heatwave this summer. That's from one heatwave every 4 years, 20 years ago. To 3 heatwaves in a summer.

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« Reply #2832 on: August 23, 2019, 01:47:24 AM »
Chile ski stations fighting the ravages of climate change with snow cannons
https://santiagotimes.cl/2019/08/21/chile-ski-stations-fighting-climate-change-with-snow-cannons/
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SANTIAGO – Once deep in powder, this time of year, Chile’s ski stations are fighting the ravages of climate change and pollution that have brought less and less snow to the central Andes. Just a few decades ago, the Andes mountain range could be buried under 4 meters of snow, forcing the closure of access roads and requiring the use of tractors to get around.

But this year, it’s snowed only three times in the Chilean Andes, and never more than 30cm.

It’s not just Chile affected, but the whole of the Andes where the area of snow cover in the central zone has diminished by 5% to 10% each decade, according to Raul Cordero, an academic at the University of Santiago.

“But it’s not just snow cover that’s decreasing, the thickness of the snow cover is also reducing,” he said.

“So when we talk about a decrease of the cover of five to 10%, this probably signifies a much greater reduction in the volume of available snow over the Andes.”

Rising temperatures mean the snow line – above which snow never melts all year round – keeps creeping upwards.
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« Reply #2834 on: August 23, 2019, 01:11:13 PM »
^^
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« Reply #2835 on: August 23, 2019, 03:01:39 PM »
Looks like that SSW is closer than near Antarctica.

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« Reply #2836 on: August 23, 2019, 03:07:40 PM »
Global heating: ancient plants set to reproduce in UK after 60m years

Two cycads (Cycas revoluta), a type of primitive tree that dominated the planet 280m years ago, have produced cones on the sheltered undercliffs of Ventnor Botanic Garden on the Isle of Wight.

The species is native to Japan and usually only found indoors as an ornamental plant in Britain, but one of the garden’s plants has produced what is believed to be the first outdoor female cone on record in the UK.

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“For the first time in 60m years in the UK we’ve got a male cone and a female cone at the same time,” said Chris Kidd, the curator of Ventnor Botanic Gardens. “It is a strong indicator of climate change being shown, not from empirical evidence from the scientists but by plants.”

According to Kidd, last summer’s heatwave and this year’s record-breaking temperatures have “absolutely” caused the plant’s production of cones, with a run of milder winters also helping.

“The plant will have made the decision to commit to cone production [in summer 2018], and that production is set in place to run through over winter and produce the following year,” he said. “Thirty years ago we couldn’t have grown them. But these plants have been growing out of doors here in the gardens for 15 years, going through their natural cycles.”

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“We see the undercliff here as being a predictor for the wider British landscape in 20 to 30 years time.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/22/global-heating-ancient-plants-set-to-reproduce-in-uk-after-60m-years

So 20 to 30 years to breed dino´s and the UK can make money as Jurassic Kingdom.  :P
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« Reply #2837 on: August 23, 2019, 03:20:10 PM »
Yeah,  read about that yesterday. Fascinating in a terrifying way..!! I guess global weirding will accelerate...

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« Reply #2838 on: August 26, 2019, 06:43:21 PM »
We (where I live) had a rain event some weeks past,  it just doesn't rain any more, this rain event brought very frequent lightning strikes and heavy winds (76 MPH-122KPH) to this area, knocking-out power to 306 thousand customers. Crews from the surrounding area and as far away as Canada stormed the area to help restore power.  PSE&G (First Energy) developed a plan to mitigate this problem moving forward, no..no news plans to limit fossil fuel emissions, instead they
installed heavy metal bracing to existing wood poles. I was told the one parameter used was the age of the pole.

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« Reply #2839 on: August 26, 2019, 07:03:50 PM »
That reminds me of an article I read last year that found that trees now are weaker and less dense than they were 50 years ago due to CO2 fertilization. If I have time I'll look it up.

The problem is only set to get worse.
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« Reply #2840 on: August 26, 2019, 11:18:47 PM »
Down with Power Poles


It's got a nice ring to it, where can I get the tee shirt?
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« Reply #2841 on: August 27, 2019, 12:00:07 AM »
Down with Power Poles


It's got a nice ring to it, where can I get the tee shirt?
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You really want 2 more joints?

Either way I think they're cheaper in your corner of the planet and legal if i'm not mistaken ;)

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« Reply #2842 on: August 27, 2019, 02:18:43 PM »
An unspoken consequence, here in northeastern part of France, is the sanitary situation of forests. Some plants are dying like never. Spruce, european spruce, beech, ash, bilberry etc... Many plants and trees are dying. And some are still alive but are on the brink of disaster like apple trees or more generally fruits trees which are not enough vernalized in winter. In my valley, there are big brown patches everywhere, like pictures in this article : https://www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2019/07/24/la-secheresse-et-la-canicule-deciment-les-forets-francaises_5492869_3244.html And in the forest, we can't walk an hundred meters without seeing a tract of land which is dead. In Swiss, there is even a declaration of emergency ... https://www.letemps.ch/suisse/jura-situation-catastrophe-forestiere Consequences will be long lasting but big : flooding of the wood market with lower quality tree, increase risk of accidents, increase risk of forest fire, loss of biodiversity etc... The financial burden for some villages could be unbearable in years to come, as many rural towns have big incomes from the trade of wood. I don't know what a valley here could look like without beech, spruce, apples and cherries...

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« Reply #2843 on: August 27, 2019, 05:54:56 PM »
Climate Change Alters Winter Precipitation Across the Northern Hemisphere
https://phys.org/news/2019-08-climate-winter-precipitation-northern-hemisphere.html

A team of scientists has successfully teased out the influence of human-caused climate change on wintertime precipitation over much of the last century, showing that the warming climate is significantly altering wintertime rainfall and snowfall across the Northern Hemisphere.

... The results showed that the warming climate has led to increased wintertime precipitation across northeastern North America, as well as a small region of northwestern North America. Climate change also has contributed to an increase in precipitation across much of northwestern and north central Eurasia.

In contrast, the study indicated that climate change may have had had a drying influence on parts of central and southwestern North America—although not enough to offset natural variability—and on much of southern Eurasia. However, the authors cautioned that the results for those regions were less pronounced and not statistically significant.



In the new study, the researchers used observations, rather than climate models, to determine the influence of a changing climate on precipitation. They essentially reduced the question to a subtraction problem: if you take away the amount of precipitation that's caused by natural variability, then the difference between that and what actually fell can likely be attributed to society's impact on climate.

The findings lend support to international studies that have used powerful climate models to try to discern the influence of greenhouse gases. For example, the CMIP5 project showed a similar pattern of precipitation trends due to climate change.

Open Access: Ruixia Guo et al. Human Influence on Winter Precipitation Trends (1921–2015) over North America and Eurasia Revealed by Dynamical Adjustment[/b]]Human Influence on Winter Precipitation Trends (1921–2015) over North America and Eurasia Revealed by Dynamical Adjustment, Geophysical Research Letters (2019)
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« Reply #2844 on: August 27, 2019, 06:51:32 PM »
With the trees dying, the soil drying and the temps rising, we have a tinderbox  :(.
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« Reply #2845 on: September 13, 2019, 10:25:00 PM »
Call for more stories:
The Climate Is at a Tipping Point. We Need Stories From the Front Lines
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ywawex/the-climate-is-at-a-tipping-point-we-need-stories-from-the-front-lines
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This is Tipping Point, a new VICE series that covers environmental justice stories about and, where possible, written by people in the communities experiencing the stark reality of our changing planet. We’ll hear how their lives are changing, what they stand to lose, and their plans to tackle environmental injustice to build a more sustainable future.
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« Reply #2846 on: September 14, 2019, 02:17:27 PM »
After deleting my snide comments about my fellow Australians here's the story:

Max temps to be 4–10 °C above September average over most fire affected areas this weekend.
No significant rain is expected for the next seven days.
A southeasterly wind change over the Qld southeast coast district will bring increased fire danger today.

https://twitter.com/BOM_au/status/1172376415020314630

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« Reply #2847 on: September 14, 2019, 03:35:25 PM »
Just a reminder, weird weather occurred back before AGW, even in the LIA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Storm_of_1703
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The Great Storm of 1703 was a destructive extratropical cyclone that struck central and southern England on 26 November 1703 (7 December 1703 in the Gregorian calendar in use today). High winds caused 2,000 chimney stacks to collapse in London and damaged the New Forest, which lost 4,000 oaks. Ships were blown hundreds of miles off-course, and over 1,000 seamen died on the Goodwin Sands alone. News bulletins of casualties and damage were sold all over England – a novelty at that time. The Church of England declared that the storm was God's vengeance for the sins of the nation. Daniel Defoe thought it was a divine punishment for poor performance against Catholic armies in the War of the Spanish Succession.
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« Reply #2848 on: September 14, 2019, 04:42:54 PM »
Just a reminder, weird weather occurred back before AGW, even in the LIA.
Trouble is, that is also in the "Book of Deniers", along with The Climate Has Always Changed".

It is hard to refute, as most people's eyes glaze over when shown tables and graphs to demonstrate the increase in frequency and/or severity of these events.

They only take note when the insurance on their homes dramatically increases or is withdrawn totally.
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« Reply #2849 on: September 14, 2019, 07:18:18 PM »
They only take note when the insurance on their homes dramatically increases or is withdrawn totally.

And as a result they elect fascist or other mentally ill to solve their imminent problem that just surfaced, again without spending a minute to ponder over the causes/connection between things