"The truth shall set you free."Not necessarily. It can also get you fired, arrested, imprisoned, or banned from social media platforms and here. And "run out of town."
Still, the exceptions do prove the rule.
From 3 years ago I quote:
And yet global oil production has increased every year for the past decade.
At higher energy costs.
What ralfy said was the god's honest truth. Didn't help him much.
While global oil production was increasing the number of wells being pumped was increasing much much more. Including in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states. Wells were needing to be drilled longer and deeper. The well pressure and oil supply potential was decreasing annually.
This led to higher and higher energy costs to drill for that oil and also to extract it, ie pump it out.
Now on top of this the higher oil production was being built on the back of Alberta Tar sands production and the then past plans (stop/start) to build massive pipelines into the US for refining and increasing US gasoline exports. Also the massive financial driven expansion of shale oil extraction at extremely high energy costs plus financial costs boosted global oil production than what it would otherwise be.
Both the above methods are extremely damaging to the environment and underground geological stability threatening long term ground water availability feeding into fresh water springs feeding creeks and rivers as well as farming communities.
Increased costs can go far beyond energy costs and financial costs. Finally shale oil wells are known as very shirt term oil production supply compared to the traditional oil wells of texts and Saudi Arabia.
Whilst this was happening over the last 10-20 years another thing happened. New oil discoveries have decreased several fold and those new sites discovered have very low oil resource supply potential. This is across the board. This is another additional case of increasing energy costs and financial costs for rapidly diminishing returns.
Now I add an knowledge update on what the Oil Production supply appeared like in 2020. Today the numbers show that global oil production has been decreasing constantly since 2018 - not increasing.
What has increased exponentially has been the use of Methane Gas to produce Liquid Fuels, gasoline and mainly diesel fuel. It's a HIGH ENERGY use chemical refining process which again is multiple times more financially expensive than the Oil being pumped out of Saudi Arabia and Russia much more cheaply.
The Covid economic downturn has impacted Oil consumption and production, to what degree is unclear. 2023 is the first full year not impacted by Covid (so far). People looking at these matters are waiting to see out the end of the year to get a 2023 Global Oil Production number and see if it is higher or lower than 2018. If it is lower then the likely conclusion is that
2018 represents hitting Peak Oil. The implications of which is dire in the short term and catastrophic in the longer term.
The whole edifice of the US economy and elites wealthy materialist "lifestyles", including it's Services, Banking, Finalization, Agriculture, and Media/IT sectors totally relies on a relatively Cheap Stable Oil Supply. So does any expansion of rebuild-able (renewable) energy infrastructure now and decades ahead plus the maintenance of it's MIC and sustaining it's Global Military Forces.
One of the Big Myths out there is that when a big mouthed US President publicly demands that Saudi Arabia and OPEC increase production that that is actually humanly and technically possible. It isn't. They can pretend to blame OPEC members and crank up the Military threats for public consumption but that ship has left the dock long ago.
Oil producers are maxed out in how much they can extract and the rate at which can extract it. The Company Return on Investment is falling over a cliff. There no new "windfall" Oil discoveries being found. All of them a multiple times more expensive to extract than all the prior "discoveries" have been.
There is no Dial left for Oil Producing Nations or the Multinational Oil companies for cranking up their Oil production. There are Limits and they have hit them. That is why the Oil Man Dick Cheney was a key player in the early 2000s to crank up US Shale Oil fracking industry and get pipelines built from Alberta asap because they knew this. The whole Industry knows this.
But what was started done 20 years ago too has it's limits and they are being hit rapidly. There are no more underground Shale Oil resources in the US to be Discovered so they can "drill baby drill."
That party is almost over as costs continue to surge in last ditch efforts to drain last ounce of Oil out of the ground. What lack of supply hasn't killed the financial costs and interest rates have put them out of business as being Uneconomical to Drill or Pump out.
And so behind Ralfy's 4 simple words
"At higher energy costs." was an enormous amount of detailed accurate and well informed knowledge and the Truth.
He was also saying True things like
"What you need to look at is not price but energy cost, energy return on energy invested, and net energy."Why would you people and the moderators
"run out of town" good decent intelligent people like ralfy telling you the Truth out of your forum is the question?
Oren the Moderator does not get it, does not know much at all: Wouldn't recognize the Truth if it hit him in the face with the force of a sledge hammer - the only thing Oren can is SLEDGE people far wiser and more knowledgeable than he ever will be. Look >
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With your insistence on ignoring any argument whatsoever and repeating your own arguments over and over regardless of their relevance, no wonder you are considered a troll by many.
If one wishes a monologue rather than a dialogue, I guess a forum is not the most appropriate vehicle.
kassy knows no better:
The claim that EROI cannot be assigned to renewables is utter nonsense. You need energy to extract minerals, process them, manufacture components, and ship them.
I think it is wrong to think in these economic terms because they are actually wrong.
Another case of being incapable of seeing and hearing what is being said and why it matters. Like a broken record kassy just keeps spinning round and round regurgitating the same tired "propaganda" and "disinformation". Screw real facts and the Truth of it.
Then after ralfy had already said he was leaving kassy comes in with the boot:
There are some interesting points in there but rehashing the same argument does not really help.
So ralfy would it be fair to classify your position as ´it is not possible?´
If (it) helps those who counter what I said rehash the same wrong points. That is,
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As for your question, I answered that in great detail in previous posts.
Well looking at the great detail in said posts it seems you say it is not possible because you look at it from a peak oil way (because people hate to lose time invested they love to cling to old stuff, works much better with music btw).
We know were you stand so you do not have to repeat the same stuff.
Meaning: YOU SHUT UP. Go Away. I refuse to listen to you. I already "Know It All" !!!
Why? ..... because kassy hates to lose the time they've invested, because kassy loves to cling to the old stuff, so it has to be 'Get Lost ralfy'! kassy, oren et al have absolutely no genuine interest in real discussions or the sharing of solid scientific research on this forum. They are both Fakes aka Social Skeptics who engage in disinformation, propaganda, unintelligent mysticism, are anti-science, and who engage in the intimidation and abusive
Coercive Control of ~1800 people.
The demand is CONFORMITY. You will Comply with this Diktat or we will hound and harass you. We will accuse you every Fault possible until you either react badly, then we can Ban you, or you simply give up and leave.
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What is (Fake) Social Skepticism? /philosophy : pseudoscience : rhetoric : sophistry/ :
1. a form of social activism which seeks abuse of science through a masquerade of its underlying philosophical vulnerability, skepticism.
An imperious set of political, social, and religious beliefs which proliferate through teaching
weaponized fake skepticism to useful idiots. Agency which actively seeks to foment conflict between science and the lay public, which then exploits such conflict to bolster its celebrity and influence.
2. a form of weaponized philosophy which masquerades as science, science enthusiasm, or science communication.
Social skepticism enforces specific conclusions and obfuscates competing ideas via a methodical and heavy-handed science embargo. It promotes
charades of critical thought, self aggrandizement and is often chartered to defend corporate/Marxist agendas; all while
maintaining a high priority of falsely impugning eschewed individuals and topics.
Its philosophies and conclusions are imposed through intimidation on the part of its cabal and cast of dark actors, and are enacted in lieu of and through
bypassing actual scientific method.
One of the gravest weaknesses of human civilization is its crippling and unaccountable bent toward
social coercion. This form
of oppression disparages courage and curiosity inside the very arenas where they are most sorely needed.
https://theethicalskeptic.com/2012/05/01/what-is-social-skepticism/
