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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #500 on: July 02, 2022, 05:58:02 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 1st, 2022:
      9,141,695 km2, a drop of -51,298 km2.

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Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #501 on: July 02, 2022, 12:25:47 PM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  9,141,695 KM2 as at 01-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 51k, 51 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 102k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,252 k, which is 74 k, 1.4% more than the 10 year average of 5,178 k.

- Extent is at position #10 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  191 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  325 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  227 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  252 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  200 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  83 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 51.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 75 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.31 million km2, 1.13 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 8th lowest in the satellite record
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Very slow sea ice extent loss continues
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #502 on: July 02, 2022, 04:50:24 PM »
Looks like that maybe high sea ice losses about to switch from Area to Extent


Apart from the Central Arctic & the CAA , High Arcrtic area losses slowed or in reverse. Some graphs attached.

NSIDC Total AREA as at 01-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 7,129,803 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 7,129,803    km2      
-86,765    km2   <   2010's average.
-22,116    km2   <   2021
 123,680    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -76    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -35    k   loss
Central Seas___   -40    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______   -2    k   loss
Bering _______   -1    k   loss
Hudson Bay___   -16    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -3    k   loss
St Lawrence___    0    k   gain
Greenland____   -10    k   loss
Barents ______   -3    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______    7    k   gain
Beaufort_____    15    k   gain
CAA_________   -13    k   loss
East Siberian__   -11    k   loss
Central Arctic__   -24    k   loss
Laptev_______   -5    k   loss
Kara_________   -9    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 76 k, 41 k less than the last 10 years average loss of 117 k         
         
- Area is at position #8 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 87 k less than the 2010's average         
- Area is 107 k more than 2016         
- Area is 124 k more than 2020         
- Area is 22 k less than 2021          
- Area is 412 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 01-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 9,779,781 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 82 k, 51 k less than the 2010's average loss of 133k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #10 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 125 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 264 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 190 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 183 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 341 k less than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #503 on: July 03, 2022, 06:05:33 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 2nd, 2022:
      9,101,131 km2, a drop of -40,564 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #504 on: July 03, 2022, 03:56:20 PM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  9,101,131 KM2 as at 02-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 41k, 61 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 102k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,293 k, which is 13 k, 0.3% more than the 10 year average of 5,279 k.

- Extent is at position #10 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  317 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  348 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  318 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  302 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  266 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  141 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 52.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 74 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.37 million km2, 1.19 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 8th lowest in the satellite record
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Slow sea ice extent loss continues for yet another day
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #505 on: July 04, 2022, 05:55:43 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 3rd, 2022:
      9,039,881 km2, a drop of -61,250 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #506 on: July 04, 2022, 12:03:51 PM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  9,039,881 KM2 as at 03-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 61k, 34 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 95k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,354 k, which is 21 k, 0.4% less than the 10 year average of 5,375 k.

- Extent is at position #10 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  422 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  407 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  363 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  333 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  294 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  161 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 53.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 73 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.40 million km2, 1.23 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 8th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #507 on: July 05, 2022, 06:19:05 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 4th, 2022:
      8,938,978 km2, a century break drop of -100,903 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #508 on: July 05, 2022, 08:48:57 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,938,978 KM2 as at 04-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 101k, 7 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 94k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,455 k, which is 13 k, 0.2% less than the 10 year average of 5,468 k.

- Extent is at position #11 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  472 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  432 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  337 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  341 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  265 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  141 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 54.6% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 72 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.40 million km2, 1.22 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 8th lowest in the satellite record
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A century break and a little bit above average sea ice loss for this day.
Perhaps a sign that all this stormy weather in the central Arctic and warmth in the CAA is translating into measurable sea ice loss?

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #509 on: July 05, 2022, 02:59:32 PM »
NSIDC area loss remains very low with a few exceptions (see next post)

NSIDC Total AREA as at 04-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 7,017,378 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 7,017,378    km2      
 128,264    km2   >   2010's average.
 216,259    km2   >   2021
 568,000    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -53    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -35    k   loss
Central Seas___   -18    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______   -3    k   loss
Bering _______   -0    k   loss
Hudson Bay___   -12    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -11    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -1    k   loss
Greenland____   -5    k   loss
Barents ______   -3    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -5    k   loss
Beaufort_____    6    k   gain
CAA_________   -5    k   loss
East Siberian__   -13    k   loss
Central Arctic__    13    k   gain
Laptev_______   -5    k   loss
Kara_________   -10    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 53 k, 74 k less than the last 10 years average loss of 127 k         
         
- Area is at position #10 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 128 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 318 k more than 2016         
- Area is 568 k more than 2020         
- Area is 216 k more than 2021          
- Area is 622 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 04-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 9,483,865 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 113 k, 7 k less than the 2010's average loss of 120k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #11 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 169 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 313 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 340 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 395 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 124 k less than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #510 on: July 05, 2022, 04:14:43 PM »
from NSIDC data - some Area graphs

The CAA sea ice area graph is interesting. Every year there is a hiatus at bout this time of year.
It was explained to me that area loss in June is mostly surface melt - pomding, and when they drain the sensors detect sea ice gain. ( I think that's right)

I have been waiting for the year when melt is fierce enough to blast through this hiatus. Maybe this is the year?

The Kara region is managing to keep its distance below the 2010's average, as is the Greenland Sea

And the Barents sea has finished its melting season with a flourish below the 2010's average
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #511 on: July 06, 2022, 06:06:36 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 5th, 2022:
      8,835,877 km2, a century break drop of -103,101 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #512 on: July 06, 2022, 08:08:04 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,835,877 KM2 as at 05-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 103k, 3 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 100k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,558 k, which is 10 k, 0.2% less than the 10 year average of 5,568 k.

- Extent is at position #11 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  502 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  461 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  311 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  349 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  272 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  127 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 55.6% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 71 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.39 million km2, 1.22 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 8th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #513 on: July 06, 2022, 03:11:34 PM »
NSIDC Total AREA as at 05-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 6,933,365 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 6,933,365    km2      
 158,678    km2   >   2010's average.
 257,608    km2   >   2021
 658,028    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -84    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -44    k   loss
Central Seas___   -40    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______   -3    k   loss
Bering _______   -1    k   loss
Hudson Bay___   -16    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -17    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -1    k   loss
Greenland____   -6    k   loss
Barents ______   -1    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -11    k   loss
Beaufort_____    11    k   gain
CAA_________   -0    k   loss
East Siberian__   -27    k   loss
Central Arctic__    2    k   gain
Laptev_______   -3    k   loss
Kara_________   -11    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 84 k, 41 k less than the last 10 years average loss of 125 k         
         
- Area is at position #10 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 159 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 356 k more than 2016         
- Area is 658 k more than 2020         
- Area is 258 k more than 2021          
- Area is 633 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 05-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 9,368,781 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 115 k, 13 k less than the 2010's average loss of 128k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #11 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 172 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 300 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 394 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 464 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 72 k less than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #514 on: July 06, 2022, 03:21:09 PM »
NSIDC  ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA (5-day trailing average):  6,933,365 KM2 as at 05-Jul-2022

- Area loss on this day 84k, 44 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 128k,
- Area loss from maximum on this date is 6,141 k, which is 212 k, 3% less than the 10 year average of 6,353 k.

- Area is at position #10 in the satellite record

- Area is  258 k MORE than 2021,
- Area is  658 k MORE than 2020,
- Area is  356 k MORE than 2016
- Area is  633 k MORE than 2012
- Area is  164 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 63.1% of Area losses  from maximum to minimum done, and 68 days to minimum

Projections.

Average remaining area loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2021 of 3.22 million km2, 0.97 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 2.25 million km2.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #515 on: July 06, 2022, 03:31:19 PM »
As far as NSIDC 5-day trailing average area and extent data is concerned, there is but one word to say on the melting season so far - SLOW
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #516 on: July 07, 2022, 05:59:58 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 6th, 2022:
      8,775,668 km2, a drop of -60,209 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #517 on: July 07, 2022, 08:00:52 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,775,668 KM2 as at 06-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 60k, 43 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 103k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,618 k, which is 53 k, 0.9% less than the 10 year average of 5,671 k.

- Extent is at position #11 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  496 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  595 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  365 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  374 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  353 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  160 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 56.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 70 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.44 million km2, 1.26 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 8th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #518 on: July 07, 2022, 03:58:44 PM »
NSIDC Total AREA as at 06-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 6,821,028 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 6,821,028    km2      
 151,592    km2   >   2010's average.
 277,213    km2   >   2021
 662,239    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -112    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -30    k   loss
Central Seas___   -82    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______    0    k   gain
Bering _______    0    k   gain
Hudson Bay___   -10    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -14    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -0    k   loss
Greenland____   -6    k   loss
Barents ______   -1    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -16    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -2    k   loss
CAA_________    2    k   gain
East Siberian__   -34    k   loss
Central Arctic__   -23    k   loss
Laptev_______   -4    k   loss
Kara_________   -4    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 112 k, 3 k more than the last 10 years average loss of 109 k         
         
- Area is at position #10 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 152 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 354 k more than 2016         
- Area is 662 k more than 2020         
- Area is 277 k more than 2021          
- Area is 577 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 06-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 9,275,856 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 93 k, 1 k less than the 2010's average loss of 94k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #11 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 161 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 287 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 463 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 507 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 48 k less than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #519 on: July 07, 2022, 04:44:58 PM »
I added the monthly extent value for June 2022 into my long-term plot where I calculate the extent anomalies from 1979 up to now.
The average (1979-2022) June extent is now 11.52 M km². June 2022 had an average extent of 10.86 M km², which is 0.76 M km² less than that long-term average.
This month's value was again above the long-term linear trend line. The difference of the actual month from that trend line is +0.40 M km² (calculated from the linear trend line this June should have been at 10.46 M km²).
The slope of the long-term linear trend line became again flatter by two digits (-0.0538 → -0.0536).

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #520 on: July 07, 2022, 05:32:09 PM »
from NSIDC Data - Area graphs of some interest

CAA - the hiatus rules again...

Chukchi - in a hurry to melt out

Greenland Sea - strongish melt continues

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #521 on: July 08, 2022, 06:33:27 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 7th, 2022:
      8,731,749 km2, a drop of -43,919 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #522 on: July 08, 2022, 01:52:59 PM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,731,749 KM2 as at 07-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 44k, 55 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 99k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,662 k, which is 108 k, 1.9% less than the 10 year average of 5,771 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  536 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  731 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  446 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  385 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  361 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  206 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 57.6% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 69 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.49 million km2, 1.31 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 10th lowest in the satellite record
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« Reply #523 on: July 08, 2022, 05:32:56 PM »
NSIDC Total AREA as at 07-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 6,700,390 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 6,700,390    km2      
 140,374    km2   >   2010's average.
 297,078    km2   >   2021
 630,541    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -121    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -24    k   loss
Central Seas___   -97    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______   -0    k   loss
Bering _______   -0    k   loss
Hudson Bay___   -10    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -12    k   loss
St Lawrence___    1    k   gain
Greenland____   -1    k   loss
Barents ______   -0    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -12    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -11    k   loss
CAA_________   -2    k   loss
East Siberian__   -20    k   loss
Central Arctic__   -48    k   loss
Laptev_______   -4    k   loss
Kara_________   -0    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 121 k, 10 k more than the last 10 years average loss of 111 k         
         
- Area is at position #10 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 140 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 342 k more than 2016         
- Area is 631 k more than 2020         
- Area is 297 k more than 2021          
- Area is 504 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 07-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 9,197,834 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 78 k, 24 k less than the 2010's average loss of 102k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #11 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 173 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 295 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 557 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 563 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 1 k less than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #524 on: July 09, 2022, 07:11:37 AM »
July 08, 2022

JAXA is not available at the moment  :(
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #525 on: July 09, 2022, 11:15:42 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,647,211 KM2 as at 08-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 85k, 24 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 109k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,747 k, which is 133 k, 2.3% less than the 10 year average of 5,880 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  554 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  785 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  512 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  375 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  387 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  226 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 58.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 68 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.52 million km2, 1.34 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #526 on: July 10, 2022, 06:12:26 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 9th, 2022:
      8,559,359 km2, a drop of -87,852 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #527 on: July 10, 2022, 12:15:20 PM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,559,359 KM2 as at 09-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 88k, 17 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 105k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,835 k, which is 150 k, 2.5% less than the 10 year average of 5,985 k.

- Extent is at position #13 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  622 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  801 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  606 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  371 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  449 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  238 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 59.8% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 67 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.53 million km2, 1.36 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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« Reply #528 on: July 10, 2022, 03:21:29 PM »
As there is now a poll on the NSIDC extent minimum, here is the current state of play of NSIDC DAILY extent

NSIDC (5-day trailing average) ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  9,018,622 KM2 as at 09-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 88k, 17 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 105k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,651 k, which is 212 k, 4% less than the 10 year average of 5,863 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the satellite record

- Extent is  682 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  465 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  354 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  559 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  184 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 57.4% of extent losses  from maximum to minimum done, and 68 days to minimum

Projections. (Table NSIDC-Extent-1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2021 of 4.66 million km2, 1.28 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.39 million km2.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #529 on: July 11, 2022, 06:28:31 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 10th, 2022:
      8,455,968 km2, a century break drop of -103,391 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #530 on: July 11, 2022, 09:50:12 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,455,968 KM2 as at 10-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 103k, 7 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 96k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,938 k, which is 142 k, 2.3% less than the 10 year average of 6,080 k.

- Extent is at position #13 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  610 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  794 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  616 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  332 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  479 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  228 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 60.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 66 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.53 million km2, 1.35 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #531 on: July 12, 2022, 06:02:15 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 11th, 2022:
      8,410,240 km2, a drop of -45,728 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #532 on: July 12, 2022, 10:46:34 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,410,240 KM2 as at 11-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 46k, 55 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 101k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 5,984 k, which is 197 k, 3.2% less than the 10 year average of 6,181 k.

- Extent is at position #13 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  662 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  883 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  637 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  363 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  544 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  276 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 61.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 65 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.58 million km2, 1.40 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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« Reply #533 on: July 12, 2022, 02:38:41 PM »
NSIDC  ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA (5-day trailing average):  6,357,612 KM2 as at 11-Jul-2022

- Area loss on this day 50k, 51 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 101k,
- Area loss from maximum on this date is 6,716 k, which is 266 k, 4% less than the 10 year average of 6,982 k.

- Area is at position #12 in the satellite record

- Area is  460 k MORE than 2021,
- Area is  521 k MORE than 2020,
- Area is  484 k MORE than 2016
- Area is  551 k MORE than 2012
- Area is  197 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 69.3% of Area losses  from maximum to minimum done, and 62 days to minimum

Projections.

Average remaining area loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2021 of 3.26 million km2, 1.01 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 2.25 million km2.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #534 on: July 13, 2022, 06:44:34 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 12th, 2022:
      8,349,907 km2, a drop of -60,333 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #535 on: July 13, 2022, 12:17:28 PM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,349,907 KM2 as at 12-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 60k, 41 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 101k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,044 k, which is 238 k, 3.8% less than the 10 year average of 6,282 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  739 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  902 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  631 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  442 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  577 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  319 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 62.8% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 64 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.62 million km2, 1.44 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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« Reply #536 on: July 13, 2022, 03:26:05 PM »
NSIDC  ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA (5-day trailing average):  6,318,765 KM2 as at 12-Jul-2022

- Area loss on this day 39k, 59 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 98k,
- Area loss from maximum on this date is 6,755 k, which is 325 k, 5% less than the 10 year average of 7,080 k.

- Area is at position #12 in the satellite record

- Area is  523 k MORE than 2021,
- Area is  582 k MORE than 2020,
- Area is  549 k MORE than 2016
- Area is  664 k MORE than 2012
- Area is  251 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 70.3% of Area losses  from maximum to minimum done, and 61 days to minimum

Projections.

Average remaining area loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2021 of 3.33 million km2, 1.08 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 2.25 million km2.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #537 on: July 14, 2022, 06:00:43 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 13th, 2022:
      8,268,585 km2, a drop of -81,322 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #538 on: July 14, 2022, 11:55:24 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,268,585 KM2 as at 13-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 81k, 32 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 113k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,125 k, which is 271 k, 4.2% less than the 10 year average of 6,396 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  798 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  965 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  620 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  511 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  545 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  340 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 63.9% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 63 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.65 million km2, 1.48 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #539 on: July 15, 2022, 05:48:57 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 14th, 2022:
      8,194,203 km2, a drop of -74,382 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #540 on: July 15, 2022, 02:38:22 PM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,194,203 KM2 as at 14-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 74k, 34 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 108k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,200 k, which is 304 k, 4.7% less than the 10 year average of 6,504 k.

- Extent is at position #13 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  809 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,077 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  623 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  583 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  518 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  364 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 65.0% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 62 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.69 million km2, 1.51 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #541 on: July 15, 2022, 04:08:22 PM »
NSIDC Total AREA as at 14-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 6,253,053 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 6,253,053    km2      
 383,271    km2   >   2010's average.
 625,510    km2   >   2021
 717,884    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -40    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -26    k   loss
Central Seas___   -14    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______    0    k   gain
Bering _______    0    k   gain
Hudson Bay___   -8    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -10    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -1    k   loss
Greenland____   -7    k   loss
Barents ______   -1    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______    1    k   gain
Beaufort_____    13    k   gain
CAA_________   -9    k   loss
East Siberian__   -7    k   loss
Central Arctic__    11    k   gain
Laptev_______   -11    k   loss
Kara_________   -12    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 40 k, 67 k less than the last 10 years average loss of 107 k         
         
- Area is at position #13 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 383 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 686 k more than 2016         
- Area is 718 k more than 2020         
- Area is 626 k more than 2021          
- Area is 890 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 14-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 8,661,345 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 55 k, 63 k less than the 2010's average loss of 118k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #12 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 352 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 403 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 989 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 798 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 195 k more than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #542 on: July 15, 2022, 04:16:12 PM »
From NSIDC data

The graphs attached show how slow the declime in sea ice area and extent has been this year, especially in the High Arctic.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #543 on: July 15, 2022, 08:28:40 PM »
Where are the century drops?
Where are the "10% daily loss of ice area" seas?
What is going on here?
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #544 on: July 16, 2022, 05:42:37 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 15th, 2022:
      8,100,013 km2, a drop of -94,190 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #545 on: July 16, 2022, 10:50:25 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  8,100,013 KM2 as at 15-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 94k, 12 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 82k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,294 k, which is 292 k, 4.4% less than the 10 year average of 6,586 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  776 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,134 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  603 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  586 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  505 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  345 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 65.8% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 61 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.68 million km2, 1.50 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #546 on: July 17, 2022, 06:15:02 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 16th, 2022:
      7,996,830 km2, a century break drop of -103,183 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #547 on: July 17, 2022, 10:04:17 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,996,830 KM2 as at 16-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 103k, 8 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 95k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,397 k, which is 284 k, 4.2% less than the 10 year average of 6,681 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  767 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,176 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  573 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  502 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  529 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  329 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 66.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 60 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.67 million km2, 1.49 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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A century break - just a one-off or a sign that all that stirring up of the sea ice in the Central Arctic is going to translate into sea ice loss?
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #548 on: July 17, 2022, 03:41:11 PM »
NSIDC  ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA (5-day trailing average):  6,095,666 KM2 as at 16-Jul-2022

- Area loss on this day 83k, 13 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 96k,
- Area loss from maximum on this date is 6,978 k, which is 503 k, 7% less than the 10 year average of 7,482 k.

- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record

- Area is  558 k MORE than 2021,
- Area is  762 k MORE than 2020,
- Area is  671 k MORE than 2016
- Area is  947 k MORE than 2012
- Area is  432 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 74.3% of Area losses from maximum to minimum done, and 57 days to minimum

Projections.

Average remaining Area loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in Sept 2022 of 3.51 million km2, 1.26 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low maximum of 2.25 million km2, and 12th lowest in the 44 year satellite record.
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With nearly 3/4 of Area losses from maximum to minimum done, every day makes it even later for a major melting event
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #549 on: July 18, 2022, 06:09:16 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 17th, 2022:
      7,895,149 km2, a century break drop of -101,681 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.