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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #550 on: July 18, 2022, 10:58:36 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,895,149 KM2 as at 17-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 102k, 8 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 94k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,499 k, which is 276 k, 4.1% less than the 10 year average of 6,774 k.

- Extent is at position #11 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  714 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,220 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  572 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  440 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  521 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  318 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 67.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 59 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.66 million km2, 1.48 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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A second century break - but does not yet count as a trend.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #551 on: July 18, 2022, 02:41:42 PM »
NSIDC Total AREA as at 17-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 5,998,994 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 5,998,994    km2      
 428,090    km2   >   2010's average.
 484,329    km2   >   2021
 780,635    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -97    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -30    k   loss
Central Seas___   -67    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______    0    k   gain
Bering _______   -0    k   loss
Hudson Bay___   -10    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -11    k   loss
St Lawrence___    0    k   gain
Greenland____   -9    k   loss
Barents ______   -0    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -3    k   loss
Beaufort_____    0    k   gain
CAA_________   -1    k   loss
East Siberian__   -9    k   loss
Central Arctic__   -31    k   loss
Laptev_______   -12    k   loss
Kara_________   -11    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 97 k, 4 k less than the last 10 years average loss of 101 k         
         
- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 428 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 659 k more than 2016         
- Area is 781 k more than 2020         
- Area is 484 k more than 2021          
- Area is 939 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 17-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 8,416,081 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 96 k, 5 k less than the 2010's average loss of 101k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #13 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 405 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 535 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 1,194 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 819 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 284 k more than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #552 on: July 18, 2022, 02:44:35 PM »
From NSIDC Data - some graphs

Russian Shore to 80 North

Kara - average melt,

Laptev - slow melt,

ESS - very very slow melt,

Chukchi - average melt

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #553 on: July 18, 2022, 02:53:56 PM »
From NSIDC Data - 2 more Area graphs

Atlantic Front
Greenland Sea - a head of average sea ice area loss
Central Arctic - how much area loss is retreat of ice edge from 80 North and how much is melt ponding & low concentration?

Last Ice Area
Beaufort - sea ice area at an extreme high.
CAA - impact of very high temperatures not showing so much in sea ice area data.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #554 on: July 19, 2022, 05:19:25 AM »
The pause in the CAA looks shorter with no reversal. That would indicate some impact IMO even if it is not very dramatic.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #555 on: July 19, 2022, 06:14:14 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 18th, 2022:
      7,787,091 km2, a century break drop of -108,058 km2.

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Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #556 on: July 19, 2022, 09:17:27 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,787,091 KM2 as at 18-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 108k, 21 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 87k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,607 k, which is 254 k, 3.7% less than the 10 year average of 6,861 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  659 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,236 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  598 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  383 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  485 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  297 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 68.5% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 58 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.64 million km2, 1.46 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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3 century breaks in a row but still 0.3 million km2 above the 2010's average extent on this day.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #557 on: July 19, 2022, 03:09:09 PM »
NSIDC  ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA (5-day trailing average):  5,884,055 KM2 as at 18-Jul-2022

- Area loss on this day 115k, 21 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 94k,
- Area loss from maximum on this date is 7,190 k, which is 480 k, 6% less than the 10 year average of 7,670 k.

- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record

- Area is  412 k MORE than 2021,
- Area is  787 k MORE than 2020,
- Area is  626 k MORE than 2016
- Area is  905 k MORE than 2012
- Area is  409 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 76.2% of Area losses  from maximum to minimum done, and 55 days to minimum

Projections.

Average remaining Area loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in Sept 2022 of 3.48 million km2, 1.24 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low maximum of 2.25 million km2, and 12th lowest in the 44 year satellite record.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #558 on: July 19, 2022, 06:22:31 PM »
(For other folks mesmerized by watching ice melt)
Eyeball estimates from Gero's JAXA 10 year average Extent loss per day trendline:


Peak rate at just a bit less than 100K per day ~ca.  July 8
75% of peak rate begins/ends ~ca. June 20, August 5
50% of peak rate begins/ends ~ca. June 15, August 24.

« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 06:34:01 PM by Glen Koehler »
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #559 on: July 20, 2022, 05:53:49 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 19th, 2022:
      7,687,809 km2, a drop of -99,282 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #560 on: July 20, 2022, 11:02:49 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,687,809 KM2 as at 19-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 99k, 17 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 82k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,706 k, which is 237 k, 3.4% less than the 10 year average of 6,943 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  622 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,240 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  618 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  348 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  472 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  280 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 69.4% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 57 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.62 million km2, 1.44 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 12th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #561 on: July 20, 2022, 07:19:17 PM »
NSIDC Total AREA as at 19-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 5,765,013 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 5,765,013    km2      
 378,209    km2   >   2010's average.
 354,473    km2   >   2021
 790,021    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -119    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -25    k   loss
Central Seas___   -94    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______    0    k   gain
Bering _______    1    k   gain
Hudson Bay___   -6    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -13    k   loss
St Lawrence___    0    k   gain
Greenland____   -7    k   loss
Barents ______   -0    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -3    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -19    k   loss
CAA_________    4    k   gain
East Siberian__   -14    k   loss
Central Arctic__   -51    k   loss
Laptev_______   -6    k   loss
Kara_________   -5    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 119 k, 21 k more than the last 10 years average loss of 98 k         
         
- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 378 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 575 k more than 2016         
- Area is 790 k more than 2020         
- Area is 354 k more than 2021          
- Area is 874 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 19-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 8,185,731 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 108 k, 15 k more than the 2010's average loss of 93k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #12 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 354 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 474 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 1,211 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 755 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 241 k more than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #562 on: July 21, 2022, 05:46:45 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 20th, 2022:
      I am not able to access the VISHOP ADS page.
      I appreciate if someone else makes the post.
 
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #563 on: July 21, 2022, 07:36:03 AM »
Still no access to the data...  :(
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #564 on: July 21, 2022, 07:43:01 AM »
Arctic Sea Ice Area - change "relative area wise" from July 1-July 19

Increase (!) in
BEAU    + 11%
Slow decrease in
CAB      -    9%
CAA      - 13%
CHUK    - 20%
ESS      - 20%
Medium decrease in
LAP      - 28%
GRØ     - 31%
Fast decrease in
KAR      - 48%
BAF      - 52%
The leader is
HUD     - 68%

St Lawrence, Okhotsk, Bering and Barents are melted out.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #565 on: July 21, 2022, 11:08:47 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,625,117 KM2 as at 20-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 63k, 26 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 89k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,769 k, which is 263 k, 3.7% less than the 10 year average of 7,032 k.

- Extent is at position #13 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  609 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,291 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  649 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  396 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  468 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  306 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 70.2% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 56 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.65 million km2, 1.47 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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After 4 days of sea ice extent loss modestly above the 10 year average, back to a below average loss....
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #566 on: July 21, 2022, 03:08:31 PM »
From NSIDC 5-Day Trailing Average sea ice area data

The low concentration ice in the Central Arctic seems to now be affecting NSIDC area data. Sea ice area in the Central Arctic now 3rd lowest in the 44 year satellite record despite below average overall Arctic sea ice area losses.
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« Reply #567 on: July 21, 2022, 03:18:02 PM »
NSIDC  ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA (5-day trailing average):  5,674,076 KM2 as at 20-Jul-2022

- Area loss on this day 91k, 5 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 96k,
- Area loss from maximum on this date is 7,400 k, which is 459 k, 6% less than the 10 year average of 7,859 k.

- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record

- Area is  325 k MORE than 2021,
- Area is  815 k MORE than 2020,
- Area is  563 k MORE than 2016
- Area is  880 k MORE than 2012
- Area is  385 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 78.0% of Area losses from maximum to minimum done, and 53 days to minimum

Projections.

Average remaining Area loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in Sept 2022 of 3.46 million km2, 1.21 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low maximum of 2.25 million km2, and 12th lowest in the 44 year satellite record.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #568 on: July 22, 2022, 05:53:36 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 21st, 2022:
      7,528,251 km2, a drop of -96,866 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #569 on: July 22, 2022, 10:06:02 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,528,251 KM2 as at 21-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 97k, 9 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 88k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,866 k, which is 254 k, 3.6% less than the 10 year average of 7,120 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  573 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,294 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  667 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  355 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  423 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  295 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 71.1% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 55 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.64 million km2, 1.46 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 13th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #570 on: July 22, 2022, 02:24:36 PM »
NSIDC  ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA (5-day trailing average):  5,604,749 KM2 as at 21-Jul-2022

- Area loss on this day 69k, 24 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 93k,
- Area loss from maximum on this date is 7,469 k, which is 482 k, 6% less than the 10 year average of 7,951 k.

- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record

- Area is  338 k MORE than 2021,
- Area is  845 k MORE than 2020,
- Area is  579 k MORE than 2016
- Area is  883 k MORE than 2012
- Area is  410 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 79.0% of Area losses  from maximum to minimum done, and 52 days to minimum

Projections.

Average remaining Area loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in Sept 2022 of 3.49 million km2, 1.24 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low maximum of 2.25 million km2, and 12th lowest in the 44 year satellite record.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #571 on: July 23, 2022, 06:01:41 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 22nd, 2022:
      7,414,641 km2, a century break drop of -113,610 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #572 on: July 23, 2022, 09:12:29 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,414,641 KM2 as at 22-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 114k, 26 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 88k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 6,979 k, which is 229 k, 3.2% less than the 10 year average of 7,208 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  530 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,298 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  669 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  287 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  373 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  264 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 72.0% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 54 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.61 million km2, 1.43 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #573 on: July 24, 2022, 05:59:52 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 23rd, 2022:
      7,298,781 km2, a century break drop of -115,860 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #574 on: July 24, 2022, 09:11:25 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,298,781 KM2 as at 23-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 116k, 44 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 72k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 7,095 k, which is 184 k, 2.5% less than the 10 year average of 7,280 k.

- Extent is at position #11 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  485 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,252 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  633 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  231 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  360 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  223 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 72.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 53 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.57 million km2, 1.39 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #575 on: July 24, 2022, 04:58:23 PM »
Another slow day for sea ice area and extent loss

NSIDC Total AREA as at 23-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 5,490,929 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 5,490,929    km2      
 463,582    km2   >   2010's average.
 351,326    km2   >   2021
 903,382    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -48    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -15    k   loss
Central Seas___   -34    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______   -0    k   loss
Bering _______    0    k   gain
Hudson Bay___   -5    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -10    k   loss
St Lawrence___    0    k   gain
Greenland____   -1    k   loss
Barents ______    1    k   gain
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -4    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -11    k   loss
CAA_________   -10    k   loss
East Siberian__    6    k   gain
Central Arctic__    5    k   gain
Laptev_______   -11    k   loss
Kara_________   -8    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 48 k, 32 k less than the last 10 years average loss of 80 k         
         
- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 464 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 599 k more than 2016         
- Area is 903 k more than 2020         
- Area is 351 k more than 2021          
- Area is 893 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 23-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 7,840,747 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 82 k, 6 k less than the 2010's average loss of 88k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #14 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 375 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 489 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 1,358 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 637 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 288 k more than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #576 on: July 24, 2022, 05:04:47 PM »
From NSIDC Data

Sea ice area and extent, especially in the High Arctic, well above the 2010's average.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #577 on: July 25, 2022, 05:59:42 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 24th, 2022:
      7,193,808 km2, a century break drop of -104,973 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #578 on: July 25, 2022, 07:35:00 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,193,808 KM2 as at 24-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 105k, 22 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 83k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 7,200 k, which is 162 k, 2.2% less than the 10 year average of 7,362 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  453 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,152 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  577 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  203 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  483 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  211 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 73.5% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 52 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.55 million km2, 1.37 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #579 on: July 25, 2022, 02:50:51 PM »
NSIDC  ARCTIC SEA ICE AREA (5-day trailing average):  5,458,964 KM2 as at 24-Jul-2022

- Area loss on this day 32k, 41 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 73k,
- Area loss from maximum on this date is 7,615 k, which is 567 k, 7% less than the 10 year average of 8,182 k.

- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record

- Area is  351 k MORE than 2021,
- Area is  953 k MORE than 2020,
- Area is  638 k MORE than 2016
- Area is  924 k MORE than 2012
- Area is  514 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 81.3% of Area losses  from maximum to minimum done, and 49 days to minimum

Projections.

Average remaining Area loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in Sept 2022 of 3.57 million km2, 1.32 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low maximum of 2.25 million km2, and 12th lowest in the 44 year satellite record.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #580 on: July 26, 2022, 06:06:19 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 25th, 2022:
      7,106,801 km2, a drop of -87,007 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #581 on: July 26, 2022, 07:09:40 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  7,106,801 KM2 as at 25-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 87k, 11 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 76k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 7,287 k, which is 151 k, 2.0% less than the 10 year average of 7,439 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  452 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,112 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  598 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  195 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  489 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  199 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 74.3% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 51 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.54 million km2, 1.36 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #582 on: July 26, 2022, 03:41:54 PM »
NSIDC Arctic sea ice area & extent loss continues at a slow to very slow pace.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #583 on: July 26, 2022, 04:02:03 PM »
From NSIDC Data - High Arctic Sea Ice Area Graphs - 1 of 2

Kara - looks like it will melt out as usual
Laptev - sea ice area still well above 2010's average
ESS - with sea ice area well above the 2000's average, surely too late for anything like a complete melt.
Chukchi - complete melt still possible.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #584 on: July 26, 2022, 04:08:23 PM »
From NSIDC Data - High Arctic Sea Ice Area Graphs - 1 of 2

Beaufort - with sea ice area well above the 2000's average, surely too late for anything like a complete melt.
CAA - very unpredictable as depends on melt and any ice import from the centre.
Central Arctic -still waiting for the Big Blob of low concentration ice to translate into open water and for the Atlantic Front to move the ice edge towrads 85 North

It's getting later and later in the melting season

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #585 on: July 27, 2022, 06:34:12 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 26th, 2022:
      6,982,784 km2, a century break drop of -124,017 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #586 on: July 27, 2022, 07:30:17 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  6,982,784 KM2 as at 26-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 124k, 47 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 77k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 7,411 k, which is 104 k, 1.4% less than the 10 year average of 7,516 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  405 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  1,020 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  598 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  150 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  471 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  153 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 75.1% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 50 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.49 million km2, 1.31 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 10th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #587 on: July 27, 2022, 05:43:05 PM »
On this day sea ice extent loss is 100k greater than sea ice area loss. So here is the extent data

NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 26-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 7,491,616 KM2         
         
Total EXTENT         
 7,491,616    km2      
 264,708    km2   >   2010's average.
 491,225    km2   >   2021
 1,212,753    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -147    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -29    k   loss
Central Seas___   -118    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______    0    k   gain
Bering _______   -3    k   loss
Hudson Bay___   -15    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -12    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -0    k   loss
Greenland____   -0    k   loss
Barents ______    2    k   gain
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -9    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -15    k   loss
CAA_________   -22    k   loss
East Siberian__   -11    k   loss
Central Arctic_   -9    k   loss
Laptev_______   -23    k   loss
Kara_________   -29    k   loss
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 147 k, 78 k more than the 2010's average loss of 69k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #13 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 265 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 268 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 1,213 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 491 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 176 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total AREA as at 26-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 5,371,364 KM2         
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 47 k, 7 k less than the last 10 years average loss of 54 k         
         
- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 545 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 673 k more than 2016         
- Area is 1,050 k more than 2020         
- Area is 340 k more than 2021          
- Area is 921 k more than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #588 on: July 27, 2022, 10:35:02 PM »
Finally I found a sea with more than 10% loss within one day (Kara). And Hudson comes very close to that 10%.
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #589 on: July 28, 2022, 06:13:51 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 27th, 2022:
      6,893,748 km2, a drop of -89,036 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #590 on: July 28, 2022, 07:38:28 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  6,893,748 KM2 as at 27-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 89k, 6 k more than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 83k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 7,500 k, which is 99 k, 1.3% less than the 10 year average of 7,599 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  377 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  975 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  605 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  140 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  528 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  154 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 75.9% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 49 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.48 million km2, 1.31 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 10th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #591 on: July 29, 2022, 05:49:43 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 28th, 2022:
      6,820,515 km2, a drop of -73,233 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #592 on: July 29, 2022, 07:26:44 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  6,820,515 KM2 as at 28-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 73k, 7 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 80k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 7,573 k, which is 106 k, 1.4% less than the 10 year average of 7,679 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  375 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  934 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  630 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  135 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  528 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  162 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 76.7% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 48 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.49 million km2, 1.31 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 10th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #593 on: July 29, 2022, 03:10:38 PM »
NSIDC Total AREA as at 28-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 5,247,628 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 5,247,628    km2      
 526,925    km2   >   2010's average.
 285,318    km2   >   2021
 1,123,127    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -68    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -18    k   loss
Central Seas___   -50    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______   -0    k   loss
Bering _______    0    k   gain
Hudson Bay___   -5    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -8    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -0    k   loss
Greenland____   -4    k   loss
Barents ______   -1    k   loss
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -3    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -12    k   loss
CAA_________   -10    k   loss
East Siberian__    5    k   gain
Central Arctic__    2    k   gain
Laptev_______   -20    k   loss
Kara_________   -10    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 68 k, 16 k more than the last 10 years average loss of 52 k         
         
- Area is at position #14 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 527 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 685 k more than 2016         
- Area is 1,123 k more than 2020         
- Area is 285 k more than 2021          
- Area is 904 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 28-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 7,261,489 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 110 k, 38 k more than the 2010's average loss of 72k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #11 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 182 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 198 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 1,046 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 394 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 53 k more than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #594 on: July 29, 2022, 10:22:47 PM »
Hudson Bay has joined Kara Sea in having daily losses above 10%, and Baffin Bay may decide to join this club...
It is too late just to be concerned about Climate Change

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #595 on: July 30, 2022, 06:05:33 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 29th, 2022:
      6,765,553 km2, a drop of -54,962 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #596 on: July 30, 2022, 08:13:13 AM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  6,765,553 KM2 as at 29-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 55k, 26 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 81k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 7,628 k, which is 132 k, 1.7% less than the 10 year average of 7,761 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  390 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  934 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  690 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  143 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  563 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  184 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 77.5% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 47 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.52 million km2, 1.34 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #597 on: July 30, 2022, 06:30:53 PM »
NSIDC Total AREA as at 29-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 5,167,298 KM2         
         
Total Area         
 5,167,298    km2      
 493,344    km2   >   2010's average.
 250,227    km2   >   2021
 1,142,067    km2   >   2020
         
Total Change   -80    k   loss
Peripheral Seas   -17    k   loss
Central Seas___   -64    k   loss
         
Peripheral Regions         
Okhotsk______    0    k   gain
Bering _______    0    k   gain
Hudson Bay___   -4    k   loss
Baffin  Bay____   -8    k   loss
St Lawrence___   -0    k   loss
Greenland____   -5    k   loss
Barents ______    0    k   gain
         
Central Arctic  Ocean Regions         
Chukchi______   -2    k   loss
Beaufort_____   -7    k   loss
CAA_________   -4    k   loss
East Siberian__   -2    k   loss
Central Arctic__   -19    k   loss
Laptev_______   -23    k   loss
Kara_________   -7    k   loss
         
Sea ice area loss on this day 80 k, 34 k more than the last 10 years average loss of 46 k         
         
- Area is at position #13 in the satellite record.         
- Area is 493 k more than the 2010's average         
- Area is 688 k more than 2016         
- Area is 1,142 k more than 2020         
- Area is 250 k more than 2021          
- Area is 879 k more than 2012         
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NSIDC Total EXTENT as at 29-Jul-2022 (5 day trailing average) 7,176,182 KM2         
         
NSIDC Sea ice EXTENT loss on this day 85 k, 13 k more than the 2010's average loss of 72k         
         
- EXTENT is at position #11 in the satellite record.         
- EXTENT is 172 k more than the 2010's average         
- EXTENT is 202 k more than 2016         
- EXTENT is 1,007 k more than 2020         
- EXTENT is 396 k more than 2021          
- EXTENT is 32 k more than 2012         
         
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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #598 on: July 31, 2022, 05:52:54 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

July 30th, 2022:
      6,738,160 km2, a drop of -27,393 km2.

For comments, see the first post in this thread.
Source: https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent.
Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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Re: 2022 Sea ice area and extent data
« Reply #599 on: July 31, 2022, 02:26:49 PM »
JAXA ARCTIC SEA ICE EXTENT:  6,738,160 KM2 as at 30-Jul-2022

- Extent loss on this day 27k, 44 k less than the average loss on this day (of the last 10 years) of 71k,
- Extent loss from maximum on this date is 7,656 k, which is 176 k, 2.2% less than the 10 year average of 7,831 k.

- Extent is at position #12 in the 44 year satellite record

- Extent is  395 k MORE than 2021,
- Extent is  960 k MORE than 2020,
- Extent is  740 k MORE than  2019,
- Extent is  204 k MORE than 2016
- Extent is  606 k MORE than 2012
- Extent is  229 k MORE than the 2010's Average
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On average 78.2% of extent losses from maximum to minimum done, and on average 46 days to minimum

Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent loss (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in September 2022 of 4.56 million km2, 1.38 million km2 above the Sept 2012 record low minimum of 3.18 million km2, and 11th lowest in the satellite record
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