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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2022, 03:42:01 AM »
 The US presidenticy seems to swing back and forth between republicans and democrats, and I can't see Biden servings another term. So that leaves whoever runs for the republican party.
I think it's still impossible to tell who that will be at this stage, but we will soon see!

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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2022, 03:14:18 PM »
The US presidenticy seems to swing back and forth between republicans and democrats, and I can't see Biden servings another term. So that leaves whoever runs for the republican party.
I think it's still impossible to tell who that will be at this stage, but we will soon see!

It does, but much depends on the situation, especially the economy.  Under the current scenario, the Democrats would be in trouble.  two years from now, it may be different.

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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2022, 02:18:52 AM »


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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2022, 04:22:39 PM »
And the red MAGAs will bring back Trump or a Trump-like candidate again, and the blue MAGAs will blame Russia again, and after another four years of yelling they’ll elect an easily controllable centrist candidate again and all the while the Deep State keeps 24/7 with their wars, and Congress and Senate make sure that no universal healthcare, education, housing, fair wages for the working class ever happen, in aeternum … a well-oiled machine for the benefit of a very few with a population completely distracted with their divisions. See cartoons above, for instance. Cretinism is the rule.

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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2023, 06:22:14 PM »
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has made his candidacy official, challenging Joe Biden for the Democratic Party’s 2024 nomination.

    Kennedy had hinted about a White House run in recent weeks, saying in a Twitter post last month that he wanted supporters to help him to decide whether to challenge Biden. “If it looks like I can raise the money and mobilize enough people to win, I’ll jump in the race. If I run, my top priority will be to end the corrupt merger between state and corporate power that has ruined our economy, shattered the middle class, polluted our landscapes and waters, poisoned our children, and robbed us of our values and freedoms. Together, we can restore America’s democracy.”

    A long-time environmental lawyer, author and anti-vaccine activist, Kennedy filed a class-action lawsuit last month against Biden, former Covid-19 czar Dr. Anthony Fauci, and other administration officials for compelling social media platforms to censor jab critics.

He has called for the release of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, saying, “There is no America without a Free Press. There is no Free Press without a free Julian Assange.”

    Kennedy has also spoken out against the US Federal Reserve’s planned digital currency, and accused the CIA of suppressing records related to the 1963 assassination of his uncle. Earlier this week, he blamed a policy of using military power to enforce global hegemony for the loss of US influence over Saudi Arabia and the Gulf monarchy’s new alliances with China and Iran.

    “The Ukraine war is the final collapse of the neocon's short-lived ‘American Century,’” Kennedy said. “The neocon projects in Iraq and Ukraine have cost $8.1 trillion, hollowed out our middle class, made a laughingstock of US military power and moral authority, pushed China and Russia into an invincible alliance, destroyed the dollar as the global currency, cost millions of lives and done nothing to advance democracy or win friendships or influence.”

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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2023, 12:50:56 PM »
20 Apr 2023

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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2023, 05:36:43 AM »
And the red MAGAs will bring back Trump or a Trump-like candidate again, and the blue MAGAs will blame Russia again, and after another four years of yelling they’ll elect an easily controllable centrist candidate again and all the while the Deep State keeps 24/7 with their wars, and Congress and Senate make sure that no universal healthcare, education, housing, fair wages for the working class ever happen, in aeternum … a well-oiled machine for the benefit of a very few with a population completely distracted with their divisions. See cartoons above, for instance. Cretinism is the rule.

You guys are so silly.
52% of Americans live in a middle class environment , a damn good middle class environment, about 19% live in an upper middleclass environment
29% live in a lower strata environment , none of them are starving and all can go to any hospital emergency room for free treatment, can’t be turned away.
If you take the deaths from drugs , which the Democrats turn a blind eye too, how that Fentanyl kills mostly white people, the life expectancy of people who take care of themselves and get American medical treatment continues to rise, I have many friends who’s parents and nuts and uncles and grandparents are 90-100 years old, we get hip replacements, knee replacement’s, cataract surgery in a week to a month depending on which drs we choose .
The tax base keeps increasing as more and more people come to the US, both illegally and poor and immediately find work if they want it and get Obamacare type medical also , though hopefully that will end soon, and in my neighborhood young people continuously buy 2 million Dollar homes and tear them down to build bigger and newer homes, this all during a recession .
yes, the Leftist Government is spending money out of control but the Republicans in congress are about to put that to a Stop also and thanks to the Left pushing the transgender nonsense, it looks like we have a legit chance to see a conservative House and Senate and hopefully a Conservative President fter the next election also , I am optimistic especially when I see things like this,  rapid change , moving away from the insanity of the hard left and their fascism.

https://www.thefire.org/news/building-knowledge-and-inspiring-discussion-cornell-stands-free-speech-announces-university

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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2023, 10:04:20 AM »
I have many friends who’s parents and nuts and uncles and grandparents are 90-100 years old,

My nuts are 48 years old.  ;D

And the red MAGAs will bring back Trump or a Trump-like candidate again, and the blue MAGAs will blame Russia again, and after another four years of yelling they’ll elect an easily controllable centrist candidate again and all the while the Deep State keeps 24/7 with their wars, and Congress and Senate make sure that no universal healthcare, education, housing, fair wages for the working class ever happen, in aeternum … a well-oiled machine for the benefit of a very few with a population completely distracted with their divisions. See cartoons above, for instance. Cretinism is the rule.

That's it in a nutshell. It's a circus, professional wrestling.
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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2023, 02:30:30 PM »
Trumpism is fading.  A few candidates will linger, and win in the maga heavy districts.  Nationally, the phase (craze?) has ended.  Unless the economy improves significantly, the Democrats will be on the defensive in 2024.  That does not mean they will lose.  The propensity for either party to nominate a candidate that is unpalatable to the general public seems to have increased greatly in recent elections.  That said, a large number of voters will blindly choose whatever candidate their preferred party puts on the ballot.  Biden was the closest to a centrist candidate in recent cycles, but his record in office points leftward.  The middle will likely look elsewhere.  RFK jr is not likely to appeal to them.  If the Republicans can nominate someone tolerable, they have a good chance at the White House.

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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2023, 02:45:29 AM »
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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2023, 04:14:31 PM »
That may be more of a reflection on the unfavorability of Biden than anything else.  His favorabity rating is hovering just over 40%.  The only President below 40% at this stage in his term was Carter, and we know how that fared.

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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2023, 05:40:36 AM »
Robert Kennedy, Jr. promised to pardon Julian Assange if he won the presidential election.

🔸The Democratic candidate said that "instead of protecting freedom of speech, the United States is persecuting journalists and whistleblowers.”

🔸Kennedy named several other "courageous truth-tellers": former intelligence officer John Kiriakou, former NSA official Thomas Drake, and former CIA operatives Jeffrey Sterling and Edward Snowden.

🔸The Democrat has promised to formally launch investigations into information and revelations from these sources.

Well I can't see Kennedy going far with that kind of a platform. The media is going to 'kill his candidacy' before it starts. But miracles and surprises can happen. Is there a real level of support form the people overall for what he is offering/saying?

Sanders didn't get anywhere and he was far more conservative than Kennedy is. Anyway, if he gets anywhere I hope he choose Tulsi as his running mate ... put the cats among the pigeons for a few weeks at least.

God help us. The US is basically in ruins physically, morally, and psychologically.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2023, 01:26:35 PM »
Robert Kennedy, Jr. promised to pardon Julian Assange if he won the presidential election.

🔸The Democratic candidate said that "instead of protecting freedom of speech, the United States is persecuting journalists and whistleblowers.”

🔸Kennedy named several other "courageous truth-tellers": former intelligence officer John Kiriakou, former NSA official Thomas Drake, and former CIA operatives Jeffrey Sterling and Edward Snowden.

🔸The Democrat has promised to formally launch investigations into information and revelations from these sources.

Well I can't see Kennedy going far with that kind of a platform. The media is going to 'kill his candidacy' before it starts. But miracles and surprises can happen. Is there a real level of support form the people overall for what he is offering/saying?

Sanders didn't get anywhere and he was far more conservative than Kennedy is. Anyway, if he gets anywhere I hope he choose Tulsi as his running mate ... put the cats among the pigeons for a few weeks at least.

God help us. The US is basically in ruins physically, morally, and psychologically.

Ultimately, I believe that his anti-vaccine platform will derail his candidacy within the Democratic party.

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2023, 08:25:47 AM »
A Manhattan jury found former US president Donald Trump guilty of sexual abuse of E. Jean Carroll, a magazine writer, on Tuesday. The jury also found Trump liable for defamation since he had dismissed the case against him as a “hoax” and a “complete con job.”

After deliberating for three hours, the jurors in the civil trial held Trump liable for “battery” and defamation of Carroll, but not rape. The ex-president was ordered to pay the writer $5 million in damages.

Carroll had accused Trump of raping her in the dressing room of a Fifth Avenue department store back in the 1990s, but failed to prove he had actually engaged with her in sexual intercourse, and did so without consent.

Trump has consistently denied ever having met Carroll and insisted the entire trial was politically motivated.

“I have absolutely no idea who this woman is. This verdict is a disgrace — a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time!” Trump posted on Truth Social shortly after the verdict.
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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2023, 02:56:08 PM »
The RFK Jr. Tapes
The Democratic presidential candidate and America’s most prominent ‘conspiracy theorist’ talks about his family, the military-pharmaceutical complex, and our new system of social control
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David Samuels
April 25, 2023

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/robert-f-kennedy-jr-interview-david-samuels
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Re: 2024 US presidential election
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2023, 05:53:36 AM »
That may be more of a reflection on the unfavorability of Biden than anything else.  His favorabity rating is hovering just over 40%.  The only President below 40% at this stage in his term was Carter, and we know how that fared.
Outside of Democrat strongholds like NY, CAL Mass, etc, Trump is much more popular than the Leftists believe he is, it’s why Hillary lost to him in the first place.
When I ask people , even here , in NY, who dislike him, what policies of his are they against, none have any answers.
It’s visceral they say, I say, right to their faces, no, it’s your  mental illness.

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2023, 02:27:30 PM »
“””””Carroll had accused Trump of raping her in the dressing room of a Fifth Avenue department store back in the 1990s, but failed to prove he had actually engaged with her in sexual intercourse, and did so without consent.

Trump has consistently denied ever having met Carroll and insisted the entire trial was politically motivated.””””””””.

No proof but let’s have Trump pay her five million dollars because we don’t like his politics.