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« Reply #6400 on: March 07, 2019, 06:11:09 PM »
Tesla has revealed its new new even-faster charging system.  Charge rates of 1,000 miles per hour...

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Here’s my 5mph station just as impressive. https://twitter.com/28delayslater/status/1103617518718107648
- My 110 gets 5mph. The 240 gets 30mph. With the included charging cord and adapters.
- I have a 240 on the side of my house if I need it. But yeah this is 110

At the link: video clip of plugging the Tesla charging adapter into a (rather sad-looking) home (garage) outlet, then plugging in the Tesla, which flashes green to indicate it is perfectly happy with that arrangement.
In the U.S., normal household outlets are 110V.  240V outlets are installed for big energy appliances like electric dryers, and (most?) EVs have adapters so they can use those outlets, as well. 

Edit: Added screen cap below.
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« Reply #6401 on: March 07, 2019, 06:55:20 PM »
Thread by Tom Randall of Bloomberg.
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Tesla's Supercharger upgrade is a pretty big deal. Once again, charging time has been cut in half. The 250kW charge rate isn't the industry fastest—others networks are being deployed capable of 350kW max—but there’s a key difference 1/

The difference is that Tesla already has a fleet of cars on the road that can actually handle 250kW charging. Most EVs today top out at 50kW, and most cars under development for the next few years max out at 100-150kW. Only the Porsche Taycan will be capable of 350 kW. Also 2/

Another breakthrough for Tesla is navigation-based thermal management for the battery. When a driver is headed to a Supercharger, the battery will pre-heat on approaches. Tesla says this improves charge time by 25%. If accurate, that’s an extremely low-cost charging innovation 3/

Teslas will get the battery preconditioning feature through an over-the-air software update. That's a 25% charge-time improvement (Tesla says) with no new hardware or utility upgrades required. The feature will be difficult for competitors to emulate because 4/

Tesla runs its own navigation software and its own charging network and integrates the two in house. The thermal-management part might be easy for others to match, but the real trick is the seamless integration with navigation so the driver doesn’t have to think about it 5/

One thing that doesn’t seem to have changed is the battery taper curve. From social media videos last night, Tesla's charge rate seems to drop below 100kW at 66% charge. That’s still blazing fast, but some upcoming competitors seem to be delaying the curve better 6/

Audi’s e-tron was seen getting its max 150kW while 75% full (it plummets around 80%). That’s probably the result of an oversized battery that’s software limited, which would be an expensive way to do it—but it shows that Tesla isn't the only car company making big improvements 7/

The takeaway is that this next generation of chargers will go a long way in removing one of the biggest hold-backs for electric cars. The new ratio of 15 minutes of charging for every 3 hours of highway driving is pretty good, and the technology is still evolving rapidly 8/
https://threader.app/thread/1103683020580626435

More discussion below the thread:  https://twitter.com/tsrandall/status/1103683020580626435
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« Reply #6402 on: March 08, 2019, 07:56:38 PM »
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There is hardly any way to avoid fines. The penalties can be a maximum of ten percent of the annual turnover of the accused companies. Audi , BMW , Daimler and Volkswagen come together to nearly 500 billion euros in annual sales.

€50bn.  Well they do need some way to replace the net contributions of the UK to the EU budget (€13bn a year), looks like the car industry are a nice juicy target....

Sorry couldn't resist.  It is patently ludicrous to charge that sum of money and cripple a business which is struggling hard enough with an economic downturn and a risk to €70bn of annual sales to the UK post Brexit.

It would be far more constructive to mandate that the companies spent that money on renewable energy in their manufacturing and also on EV development and delivery.  Then the person in the street might actually gain something from it.
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« Reply #6403 on: March 08, 2019, 09:27:53 PM »
For everyone still confused about EV terms like kW, kWh and capacity:  Don’t feel bad; Nissan’s marketing department hasn’t worked it out, either. ;D
Perhaps this was a rushed response to the Tesla supercharger news?

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New promo being emailed out by Nissan. Anyone spot anything wrong? The marketing team needs to watch some Tesla YouTube videos to learn the difference between power & energy.
https://twitter.com/liketeslakim/status/1103500453038510081
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« Reply #6404 on: March 10, 2019, 03:33:27 PM »
U.S.:  The EPA finds that the overall CO2 emission rates for new vehicles have fallen and are expected to fall further.

3.33%:   The projected fall in average estimated real-world CO2 emission rate for all new vehicles between model years 2016 and 2018, according to a report on automotive trends from the US Environmental Protection Agency.

The EPA finds that the rate fell from 360 grams per mile in model year 2016 to 357 g/mi in 2017—a record low. Fuel economy increased by 0.2 miles per gallon to 24.9 mpg, achieving a record high.

The National Resources Defense Council said the new numbers were a signal that the federal government’s fuel-economy standards are working, and that the Trump administration should reconsider its plans to freeze them

Highlights of the Automotive Trends Report | The EPA Automotive Trends Report | US EPA
https://www.epa.gov/automotive-trends/highlights-automotive-trends-report
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« Reply #6405 on: March 10, 2019, 06:33:57 PM »
Meeting planned to plan a joint meeting to… make a plan.

If approved at Nissan's scheduled board meeting on Tuesday, the three companies' top executives will unveil the plan for the joint meeting, TV Tokyo said.

To discuss issues related to their alliance in a step toward integration of operations.


Renault, Nissan, Mitsubishi plan joint board meeting, eye integration
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-renault-nissan-alliance-idUSKBN1QR0HW
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« Reply #6406 on: March 11, 2019, 07:37:48 PM »
Porsche has next-gen batteries for longer-range electric vehicles coming next year, says CEO
https://electrek.co/2019/03/11/porsche-next-gen-batteries-longer-range-electric-car-ceo/


'24 Hours of Lemons' opens electric car category in infamous crappy car race
https://electrek.co/2019/03/11/24-hours-of-lemons-electric-car-category/
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« Reply #6407 on: March 13, 2019, 04:27:10 PM »
Video shows you how to compare average gas or electricity costs for any ICE car or EV. 

Just looking at the very low $2.35 [per gallon of gas] rate, you’d have to have a car that gets some 60 mpg to make gas costs similar to electricity costs. In the end, when looking at more realistic gas prices, an EV will save you a ton of money. The best part is, Engineering Explained provides an easy equation so that you can run the comparisons yourself before you move forward.

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-analysis-ev-cheap-drive/amp/

It’s the efficiency of electric cars — the motor, and regenerative braking.  Even the only-moderately-efficient Performance Model 3 moves you 310 miles on an equivalent of 2.2 gallons (8.3 liters) of gasoline!
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« Reply #6408 on: March 13, 2019, 05:39:43 PM »
Volkswagen is going all-in on electric vehicles.

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/03/13/volkswagen-boosts-electric-car-investment-sales-goals-22-million-electric-cars-by-2028/

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Until recently, Volkswagen was saying it expects to sell 15 million cars based on its new MEB platform, which is dedicated to making electric cars exclusively. Relative to others in the industry, that was a high number and Volkswagen had high targets for EV share as well.

On March 12, Volkswagen said in a press release that it is raising the number of models that will use the MEB platform from 50 to 70 and its production goal for that chassis from 15 million to 22 million cars by 2028. Keep in mind that the MEB chassis will be available to all members of the Volkswagen Group, which includes Porsche, Audi, Skoda, SEAT, Bentley, Bugatti, and Lamborghini.

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Editor’s note: Aside from yesterday’s announcement, Volkswagen published a press release this morning that indicates the company’s electric vehicle investment plans from 2019 to 2023 have risen to €19 billion, €8 billion more than previous plans. As they say, money talks. If these investments are implemented — and if they keep rising year after year — Volkswagen should be a formidable electric vehicle manufacturer by the middle of the 2020s, if not sooner.

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« Reply #6409 on: March 13, 2019, 06:29:47 PM »
Volkswagen is going all-in on electric vehicles.
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Maybe.  If they survive.  VW is struggling with fixed ICE costs, cutting a workforce for a product that requires 30% less labor, and revamping an R&D force based on hardware... to one more focussed on software.  And they still say they will maintain new ICE development until 2026.  So while it’s good to hear them talk the talk, walking the walk is a different matter.

Volkswagen warns on jobs as margins slip, electric plans accelerate
https://www.businessinsider.com/volkswagen-warns-on-jobs-as-margins-slip-electric-plans-accelerate-2019-3

VW says final generation of combustion engines will launch in 2026
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/04/vw-final-generation-internal-combustion-engines/
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« Reply #6410 on: March 13, 2019, 08:16:56 PM »
Jaguar Land Rover recalls 44,000 cars over carbon dioxide levels
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Recalls of cars to fix safety defects happen fairly often, but full product recalls because of exhaust emissions are rare. It is thought to be the first carbon dioxide-related recall for JLR.
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The repairs could include software updates as well as physical alterations, and some Range Rover Evoque models will need new tyres, a JLR spokesperson said.
https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/13/jaguar-land-rover-recalls-cars-over-carbon-dioxide-levels
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« Reply #6411 on: March 13, 2019, 09:04:26 PM »
And now Fiat Chrysler.  Again.

Fiat Chrysler recalling 965,000 US and Canadian vehicles over excess emissions
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The California Air Resources (CARB) Board said 50,000 California vehicles must be repaired, or drivers "will not be able to register their vehicles."

California and Fiat Chrysler said the vehicles emit nitrogen oxide (NOx) pollution above regulatory limits. California said Fiat Chrysler's "own data and test results confirmed that the catalytic converters in these vehicles were malfunctioning."

NOx emissions in California are a major contributor to ambient ozone and to fine particulate matter pollution, which is associated with asthma emergency room visits, increased hospitalizations due to exacerbated chronic heart and lung diseases, and other serious health problems, CARB said.

In January, Fiat Chrysler agreed to a settlement worth about $800 million to resolve claims by the U.S. Justice Department and the state of California that it used illegal software to produce false results on diesel-emissions tests. It is awaiting the outcome of a criminal probe.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1QU1WM
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« Reply #6412 on: March 14, 2019, 04:41:47 PM »
Another detailed study of lifetime carbon emissions for ICE cars vs. EVs.  Crossover generally occurs within the first year of ownership.  Images below are for a Tesla Model 3 vs. a BMW 330i;  see the link for e-Golf vs Golf 1.6 TDI, and more.  You can input your own country and annual mileage (km).
Sources are listed in the spreadsheet.

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ceo plus, Roger Rusch (@ceo_plus_ch) 3/11/19, 6:46 AM
So, now here’s the CO2 comparison of owning a #Tesla #Model3 vs #BMW #330i in the US:
- lifetime CO2eq emissions split into prod & operation categories
- emissions accumulation chart with break-even point (Model 3 equals CO2 surplus from battery prod after 0.9 years)
https://twitter.com/ceo_plus_ch/status/1105057396504711168

And now it’s playtime ;D : Here’s the english & clickable spreadsheet with 4 tabs:
- e-Golf vs Golf 1.6 TDI
- #Tesla #Model3 vs #BMW #330i
- Tesla ModelS vs BMW #530i
- 100km of ModelS vs BMW vs Audi
You can play around with the green fields. Enjoy!

Here’s the spreadsheet:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b9WkLOjaej7OrPk3ATSxGjYTQxzDoMrA5WuK5K0M-xE/htmlview
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« Reply #6413 on: March 18, 2019, 03:27:51 PM »
New York City says electric cars are now the cheapest option for its fleet
https://qz.com/1571956/new-york-city-says-electric-cars-cheapest-option-for-its-fleet/

Edit: more on this:
NYC reveals massive maintenance savings from electric cars in its fleet
https://electrek.co/2019/03/18/nyc-maintenance-electric-cars/

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Electric Cars With The Best Resale Value For 2019
https://insideevs.com/electric-cars-best-resale-value/amp/
No data available for the Model S yet.

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The Model 3 drive system is designed and validated for over 1 million miles – this is what the gears look like after testing
https://twitter.com/tesla/status/1051911793373638661
Images below.
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« Reply #6414 on: March 19, 2019, 02:14:32 PM »
New record!  From March 1 to 17, pure electric BEVs were 76.6% of new car sales in Oslo.

The Norwegian Electric Car Association believes that electric cars will account for almost 50 per cent of the new car sales nationwide in 2019.
Oslo setter elbilrekord - Nordic EV Summit åpner
https://www.ntbinfo.no/pressemelding/oslo-setter-elbilrekord---nordic-ev-summit-apner?publisherId=15519297&releaseId=17862000


Here’s Bjørn Nyland providing commentary over a video of the GLOVIS Courage unloading Teslas in Oslo.  From what I read elsewhere, the is the first time such a large vehicle carrier has docked in downtown Oslo.  Usually the ships go to larger ports and the cars are brought in by truck or train.  This ship is headed to Bremerhaven next.

   
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Vital info for Europeans:  The Tesla Model Y will have a tow bar, and the Model 3 will be getting a tow bar soon.  The news comes via Norwegian site Elbien, which spoke with Franz von Holzhausen at the Model Y's launch event in California last week.
https://apple.news/A_sF4BLurON-6q6ovVeKuVQ

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VW threatens to exit German automaker lobbying group over electric vehicle policies
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Automakers have promoted policies to slow down the adoption of electric vehicles through lobbying groups for years.
Most recently, automakers associations have pushed against efforts to increase average fuel economy, which would have forced EVs to be built in higher volume.
Interestingly, several automakers were claiming to be ‘all-in on electric cars’ while indirectly supporting those lobbying efforts.
Now, Volkswagen appears to be recognizing this issue and is pressuring the Association of the German Automotive Industry (VDA), a powerful lobbying group in Germany, to promote electric vehicles. …
https://electrek.co/2019/03/18/vw-threatens-exit-automaker-lobbying-electric-vehicle-policies/

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2020 Will Be the Electric Car Tipping Point
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We won’t all be driving EVs by 2020. The best-selling American vehicles will still be three full-sized trucks traveling less than 20 miles on a gallon of gas. But, buyers, particularly on the luxury end, will have a range of EV options. Buying one should feel far more normal than niche.
https://gearpatrol.com/2019/03/18/2020-will-be-the-electric-car-tipping-point/
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« Reply #6415 on: March 19, 2019, 08:26:30 PM »
Electric vans from one of China’s biggest EV makers are catching fire

Seems its not just a Tesla issue ....

"Improving technology means that electric vehicles (EV) are able to go for ever-longer ranges, but it’s also challenging the safety limits of batteries, as one leading Chinese EV maker is finding out.

So far in 2019, there have been least three incidents of electric minivans of the same model catching fire while charging, with the latest incident happening last week in Shenzhen, news outlet National Business Daily (link in Chinese) reported yesterday (March 18). The vehicles in question are the Beiqi Weiwang 407EV, manufactured by BJEV (paywall), an EV maker linked to state-owned manufacturer BAIC, a staffer at the Shenzhen Electric Vehicle Application and Promotion Center confirmed to Quartz."

"China has a surveillance network working 24/7 to monitor EVs and prevent batteries from catching fire, though it’s unclear if the 407EVs made by BJEV are part of the network."

https://qz.com/1575817/electric-vehicles-from-chinese-car-maker-bjev-are-catching-fire/