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« Reply #400 on: May 30, 2019, 12:03:27 PM »
I wandered over to Judy's place, ........

Perhaps you need to wander over to Judy's place again.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/30/humans-and-volcanoes-caused-nearly-all-of-global-heating-in-past-140-years
Humans and volcanoes caused nearly all of global heating in past 140 years
New study confirms natural cycles play little role in global temperature trends and tackles discrepancies in previous models

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.......climate scientists have had a difficult time explaining exactly what caused a warming event in the early 20th century, between about 1910 and 1945. The average of the climate model runs incorporated in the last IPCC report only accounted for about half of the measured global surface warming trend during that period, and a study published last year suggested the other half could be due to natural cycles.

Contrarian scientists like Judith Curry, who is frequently invited by Republicans to testify before US Congress, have often used this discrepancy to cast doubt on the expert consensus on human-caused global warming, arguing that “until we can explain the early 20th century warming, I have little confidence IPCC and [National Climate Assessment] attribution statements regarding the cause of the recent warming.”

Study at :- https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/10.1175/JCLI-D-18-0555.1
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The early 20th century warming (EW; 1910-1945) and the mid-20th century cooling (MC; 1950-1980) have been linked to both, internal variability of the climate system and changes in external radiative forcing. The degree to which either of the two factors contributed to EW and MC, or both, is still debated. Using a two-box impulse response model, we demonstrate that multidecadal ocean variability was unlikely to be the driver of observed changes in global mean surface temperature (GMST) after 1850 A.D. Instead, virtually all (97-98%) of the global low-frequency variability (> 30 years) can be explained by external forcing. We find similarly high percentages of explained variance for inter-hemispheric and land-ocean temperature evolution. Three key aspects are identified which underpin the conclusion of this new study: inhomogeneous anthropogenic aerosol forcing (AER), biases in the instrumental sea surface temperature (SST) datasets, and inadequate representation of the response to varying forcing factors. Once the spatially heterogeneous nature of AER is accounted for, the MC period is reconcilable with external drivers. SST biases and imprecise forcing responses explain the putative disagreement between models and observations during the EW period. As a consequence, Atlantic Multidecadal Variability (AMV) is found to be primarily controlled by external forcing too. Future attribution studies should account for these important factors when discriminating between externally-forced and internallygenerated influences on climate. We argue that AMV must not be used as a regressor and suggest a revised AMV index instead (North Atlantic Variability Index; NAVI). Our associated best estimate for the transient climate response (TCR) is 1.57 K (±0.70 at the 5-95% confidence level).
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« Reply #401 on: May 30, 2019, 01:07:40 PM »
Perhaps you need to wander over to Judy's place again.

Thanks for the suggestion, but I like to confine my occasional visits to the dark side to Arctic sea ice specific topics only.

If only Bill the Frog wasn't frantically busy studying physics at the Open University at the present moment:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/tag/bill-the-frog/

Still no response from Anthony or Judy, or Mr. Mosher for that matter:

https://twitter.com/GreatWhiteCon/status/1133705017079345153
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« Reply #402 on: May 30, 2019, 06:48:19 PM »
The force has been with me over on the dark side this afternoon (UTC).

The (in)famous Robert Ellison has taken my juicy bait at ex Prof. Judy's place:

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Judah Cohen’s work is very much worth following – unlike WUWT.

The Arctic Oscillation has been negative – mostly – in April and May. Higher surface pressure at the pole relative to sub-polar sea level pressure. It is a very variable index over weeks and seasonally. It should settle down somewhat over the NH summer. But there are no hard and fast rules of course. Much longer term more negative values in both limited observations and models have been linked to low solar activity.

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« Reply #403 on: June 01, 2019, 07:07:34 AM »
Mornin all (UTC),

My Maslowski missive to the "slime hole" that is WUWT is still missing.

https://twitter.com/gregladen/status/1134193598705143809

An acolyte of ex. Prof Judy has got his knickers in a twist:

http://archive.is/ZPg3A#selection-7301.0-7301.150

Ryan Maue is evidently "All mouth and no trousers":

https://twitter.com/GreatWhiteCon/status/1134681415956742145

Last but not necessarily least, Big Joe Bastardi is "Not even wrong about sea ice":

https://twitter.com/GreatWhiteCon/status/1134684460920823808

I wonder what joys the rest of today will bring?
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« Reply #404 on: September 12, 2019, 01:34:45 PM »
Here's the latest Arctic sea ice "Fake News" from all the usual suspects (except David Rose in the Fail on Sunday!):

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2019/09/ship-of-fools-iii-escapes-arctic-sea-ice/

The cryodenialistas have discovered that there's currently some sea ice off the east of Svalbard, whilst insisting it's off the west coast. For some strange reason they make no mention of the sudden absence of masses of multi-year sea ice north of Greenland.

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Trygve Monsen and expedition leader Tore Toppe were among the 16 who were evacuated when MS Malmö got stuck in the ice on Tuesday. They respond strongly to what they call misinformation on the right-wing website document.no.

P.S. If any Norwegian speakers are in the house please feel free to critique my Google assisted translations into English.
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« Reply #405 on: September 12, 2019, 03:45:13 PM »
The PABOTUS has found the story of merit for his deplorable base
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« Reply #406 on: September 12, 2019, 04:30:12 PM »
The PABOTUS has found the story of merit for his deplorable base

Thanks Gandul. I'll fire off a tweet in that direction too:

https://twitter.com/GreatWhiteCon/status/1172158138805608448
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« Reply #407 on: September 13, 2019, 02:16:05 PM »
Needless to say Donald still hasn't responded to my enlightening "Tweet", although one of his (presumed) followers has:

https://twitter.com/GreatWhiteCon/status/1172458058473189377

Given his lack of track record perhaps "Dave" is actually a bot?

Needless to say my enlightening comments are still "in moderation" at WUWT and NALOPKT. However over at Breitbart UK:

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« Reply #408 on: September 13, 2019, 02:33:04 PM »
Shock News from WUWT!!!

I can only assume that Charles the Moderator has never heard of "Snow White" before.

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« Reply #409 on: September 13, 2019, 02:41:06 PM »

You can tell this Marvin guy is a moron because he calls everyone not denying CC 'the left'.
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« Reply #410 on: September 13, 2019, 02:51:58 PM »
My constructive comment now seems to be invisible at Breitbart:
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« Reply #411 on: September 13, 2019, 02:53:54 PM »
You can tell this Marvin guy is a moron because he calls everyone not denying CC 'the left'.

Perhaps he's actually a paranoid android?
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« Reply #412 on: September 13, 2019, 03:19:46 PM »
No, paranoid androids are more human. ;)
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« Reply #414 on: September 13, 2019, 03:55:51 PM »
Apparently the Ministry of Truth at Breitbart dropped it down a memory hole to the incinerators in the basement.

Musn't let facts stand in their way.
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« Reply #415 on: September 13, 2019, 04:00:36 PM »
The Ministry of Truth at Breitbart dropped it down a memory hole to the incinerators in the basement.

Thanks for the feedback Vox. Likewise at "Not A Lot Of People Know That" it seems!
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« Reply #416 on: September 13, 2019, 04:15:06 PM »
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« Reply #417 on: September 13, 2019, 04:22:27 PM »
A world of organised hatred?

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« Reply #418 on: September 13, 2019, 11:12:37 PM »
My comment at Breitbart seems to have magically reappeared.

No magical correction by Mr. Delingpole to his original article is visible however.

All up votes still appreciated. The appropriate URL seems to be: http://disq.us/p/24bcxcw
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« Reply #419 on: September 15, 2019, 12:49:56 PM »
I have been engaged in conversation over at Breitbart, but comments are initially invisible to 3rd parties for quite some time.

I wonder when my response to Mr. Micawber will appear?
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« Reply #420 on: September 15, 2019, 01:59:41 PM »
I wonder when my response to Mr. Micawber will appear?

It's there now, allegedly at: http://disq.us/p/24chxo0
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« Reply #421 on: September 15, 2019, 02:02:45 PM »
Just in case any native Norwegian speaking academics are watching, please feel free to join the latest "Great White Con" project over at ResearchGate:

https://www.researchgate.net/project/Social-and-Political-Psychology-of-the-Ship-of-Fools-meme
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« Reply #422 on: September 15, 2019, 02:33:22 PM »
I have been engaged in conversation over at Breitbart......
Pourquoi?

There will be odd bits of ice in the Arctic for years and years, and years.
There will always be a story - a "best from the east" to make into an "AGW ain't real" story.

Breitbart and its backers will only change when the ratings and the advertising revenues fall.

  • The Daily Mail changed its tune not so long ago.
    "Sky News" in the UK has switched from denial to acceptance to active campaigning.
    Meanwhile "Sky News" in Australia ?
    "Fox News" ?
Truth or lies are irrelevant to the Murdochs et al of this world, Ratings & Revenues decide.

I suppose if you get some enjoyment from it, go for it.
But frankly,  I just can't be arsed to spend any of my limited resources to tell them they are a bunch of shits.
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« Reply #423 on: September 15, 2019, 02:44:19 PM »
Pourquoi?

It's part of an exciting new research project. See just above.
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« Reply #424 on: September 15, 2019, 02:47:15 PM »
In the latest "Shock News!" from the cryodenialosphere Steve/Tony has rather belatedly jumped on the MalmoGate bandwagon:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2019/09/ship-of-fools-iii-escapes-arctic-sea-ice/#Sep-15
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« Reply #425 on: September 15, 2019, 02:48:24 PM »
That's a shame. :(
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« Reply #426 on: September 15, 2019, 09:47:45 PM »
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I suppose if you get some enjoyment from it, go for it.
But frankly,  I just can't be arsed to spend any of my limited resources to tell them they are a bunch of shits.

You're certainly right that engaging with a committed denier won't alter the denier.
But in a public forum, there's always many more people reading than participating.  Many of them are on the fence.  Effective, reasoned posts can shift the views of the readership.

But it's a massive, thankless, Sisyphean task.   Kudos to Jim for fighting the good fight.  Personally, I don't have the patience, time, or stomach for it.  Maybe when I'm retired from employment.

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« Reply #427 on: September 15, 2019, 10:02:57 PM »
That's a shame. :(

Actually there is much pleasure to be had over on the Deplorable Climate Science Blog  ;D

A recent example, currently still "in moderation", albeit on an old NWP thread rather than MalmoGate:

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« Reply #428 on: September 15, 2019, 10:07:22 PM »
Kudos to Jim for fighting the good fight.

You are very kind Steve.

Actually I'm merely trying improve my rather threadbare academic C.V.

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« Reply #429 on: September 15, 2019, 11:07:37 PM »
Actually there is much pleasure to be had over on the Deplorable Climate Science Blog  ;D

Likewise at WUWT. I'm very easily pleased!

This one is on the MalmoGate topic, and has escaped the moderator's red pencil:

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« Reply #430 on: September 16, 2019, 12:15:29 PM »
I've been having lots of innocent fun at the Deplorable Client Science Blog and WUWT as well. More on that later perhaps?

However for the moment at least here is my favourite ROFL generator, courtesy of Breitbart:
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« Reply #431 on: September 16, 2019, 05:36:39 PM »
For a change this is not David Rose on sea ice, but nonetheless the Fail on Sunday never fail to disgust me.

As a geriatric surfer from SW England I have been sending an annual donation to the Great British Royal National Lifeboat Institution for more years than I can remember. Now I read this:

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« Reply #432 on: October 07, 2019, 11:42:58 AM »
It's all go on the Arctic Sea Ice Con front at the moment!

No sooner have some people said some nice things about me on Judy Curry's blog than me old mates David Rose and Matt Ridley are out in force dissing Tamsin Edwards on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/jim_hunt/status/1181138013646213120
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« Reply #433 on: October 13, 2019, 02:00:15 PM »
Matt Ridley still hasn't had the decency to apologise to Tamsin. Nor has Paul Matthews, or David Rose.

Meanwhile Eric Worrall has asked me to contribute a "guest post" to WUWT. (ROFL)^n!


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« Reply #434 on: October 13, 2019, 11:51:27 PM »
Matt Ridley still hasn't had the decency to apologise to Tamsin. Nor has Paul Matthews, or David Rose.

Meanwhile Eric Worrall has asked me to contribute a "guest post" to WUWT. (ROFL)^n!
Expecting decency? C'mon, man.

To give copyright to WUWT. Oh dear! no, no no, no no no, no no no no.

Meanwhile - polar bears population (from the tweet)- the claim about numbers is from a book sponsored by - wait for it - GWPF (sorry Neven). The only use this idiot stuff they post is - is that it motivates me to find out some real data.

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Before 1973
Several polar bear populations were decimated by unsustainable hunting by European, Russian and American hunters and trappers from the 1600s right through to the mid-1970's.

1973
Canada, the United States, Denmark, Norway and the former USSR signed the International Agreement on the Conservation of Polar Bears and their Habitat, strictly regulating commercial hunting. The US Government classified the Polar Bear under its Endangered Species Act (ESA).

2005
The polar bear was upgraded from Least Concern to Vulnerable by the the IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group.

2013
Ministers and other leaders from the five polar bear range states met in Moscow for the first International Forum on Polar Bear Conservation. The leaders made significant commitments to address issues of polar bear habitat, research and trade. This event was supported by WWF.

Today (2017)
Today, polar bears are among the few large carnivores that are still found in roughly their original habitat and range--and in some places, in roughly their natural numbers.

Although most of the world's 19 populations have returned to healthy numbers, there are differences between them. Some are stable, some seem to be increasing, and some are decreasing due to various pressures.

In the future
By 2040, scientists predict that only a fringe of ice will remain in Northeast Canada and Northern Greenland when all other large areas of summer ice are gone. This "Last Ice Area" is likely to become important for polar bears and other life that depends on ice.

A projection of sea ice in the archipelago, supported by WWF, shows that much of the region is facing significant ice loss in the coming decades - with potentially serious consequences for polar bears.

Global polar bear numbers are projected to decline by 30% by 2050.

but... https://www.totallyveganbuzz.com/news/over-5000-polar-bears-have-been-killed-for-sport/ TRUE?
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« Reply #435 on: October 14, 2019, 05:46:23 PM »
Expecting decency? C'mon, man.

The current WUWT moderator(s) has sprung to my assistance! (ROFL)^(1/0)
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« Reply #436 on: October 14, 2019, 06:36:25 PM »
Jim...

The small print says copyright on anything sent to WUWT belongs to them.

So I drag through a load of data, do my analysis, include it in my post & it belongs to that bunch of..... Then they can change it, twist it, whatever they want? And they can prevent me from posting the correct data & analysis - anywhere, including the ASIF?

No way. People should be warned to check the copyright policies of blogs, especially those that are anathema to people considering posting contradiction & counter arguments.
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« Reply #437 on: October 15, 2019, 05:57:38 PM »
The small print says copyright on anything sent to WUWT belongs to them.

Fear not Gerontocrat!

I have now been banned (again) from WUWT for the mortal sin of allowing myself to be abused in the most heinous of fashions:
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« Reply #438 on: October 15, 2019, 09:44:14 PM »
Shock News!!!

Anthony has published my polite question asking what rules I might have inadvertently infringed, and responded as follows.

Gator the abusive sock puppet is welcomed with open(ish) arms at WUWT. However Jim, bearing lots of peer reviewed evidence under my own name, is banished to the eighth circle of hell and beyond:
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« Reply #439 on: October 15, 2019, 10:07:22 PM »
Shock News!!!


I said it many times already, to tell the truth has become one of the biggest crimes nowadays and it is by no means restricted to online communities but is favored by all governments and their puppet institutions (or vice versa)

Not so long ago people were hung or burned have they been telling unpleasant truth to the average people.

Nowadays we are neither burned nor hung but our reputation is damaged and we're ridiculed, mostly and unfortunately by people who on a first glance seem to be just and honest and fighting for
good causes.

Political correctness is one of the results and US-President Truman already had his say about it upon his Admiral reported to him about Pearl Harbor.

None of us is perfect of course but those allegations are indeed far from anything I would have
guessed possible as far as @Jim is concerned.

I certainly do not consent with every thing he has to say which certainly is mutual and totally normally the case but IMO it's quite obvious who knows what he/she is speaking about an whether the intention is evil or just.

In my opinion we all err and are allowed to err in the process of learning as long as our intentions
are just, hence it's the meaning and the intention that makes things evil or just, else they're simply right, wrong, personal preference or relative.
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« Reply #440 on: October 17, 2019, 11:56:55 AM »
For some strange reason Anthony Watts is ignoring my follow up question:
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« Reply #441 on: October 17, 2019, 12:04:13 PM »
None of us is perfect of course but those allegations are indeed far from anything I would have
guessed possible as far as @Jim is concerned.

You are very kind Philopek.

As far as I can ascertain the only possible motivation for Mr. Watts actions is to prevent his loyal readership from being exposed to the data (perhaps "facts" is too strong a word?) emanating from the Arctic.
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« Reply #442 on: October 17, 2019, 01:38:29 PM »
As luck would have it the latest article published at WUWT is by David Middleton on the thorny topic of Arctic sea ice.

How "unfortunate" is it in all the circumstances that I am prevented from commenting on David's words of wisdom?
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« Reply #443 on: October 17, 2019, 02:55:00 PM »
Shock News!!!


I said it many times already, to tell the truth has become one of the biggest crimes nowadays and it is by no means restricted to online communities but is favored by all governments and their puppet institutions (or vice versa)

Not so long ago people were hung or burned have they been telling unpleasant truth to the average people.

Nowadays we are neither burned nor hung but our reputation is damaged and we're ridiculed, mostly and unfortunately by people who on a first glance seem to be just and honest and fighting for
good causes.

Political correctness is one of the results and US-President Truman already had his say about it upon his Admiral reported to him about Pearl Harbor.

None of us is perfect of course but those allegations are indeed far from anything I would have
guessed possible as far as @Jim is concerned.

I certainly do not consent with every thing he has to say which certainly is mutual and totally normally the case but IMO it's quite obvious who knows what he/she is speaking about an whether the intention is evil or just.

In my opinion we all err and are allowed to err in the process of learning as long as our intentions
are just, hence it's the meaning and the intention that makes things evil or just, else they're simply right, wrong, personal preference or relative.

Unfortunately, this is true.  Too many are worried about perception, feelings, or their own personal agenda to be concerned about the truth.  This goes for dissenting opinions also.  Sometimes the truth is not know, but there are those who believe that they have all the answers, and mock and ridicule those who disagree.  Continue to put forth ideas, theories, and answers, and those that stand the test of time will win out.  But be careful, as many witch hunts may derail the truth.

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« Reply #444 on: October 18, 2019, 08:51:35 AM »
Too many are worried about perception, feelings, or their own personal agenda to be concerned about the truth.

That certainly applies to Anthony Watts! Hence:

https://twitter.com/GreatWhiteCon/status/1185084851336204288

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As part of an exciting new research project we proudly present incontrovertible evidence of the ways in which "Watts Up With That" conspires to suppress "alternative" points of view regarding the current decline of Arctic sea ice.
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« Reply #445 on: October 18, 2019, 04:48:19 PM »
Matt Ridley was on Julia Hartley-Brewer's "chat show" earlier. Apart from accusing Extinction Rebellion of "hypocrisy" Matt was rather economical with the truth about Arctic temperatures and sea ice. At the end of the video he exhorted Julia's loyal viewers to "stand up to the bullies". I think he was referring to XR, but I took him at his word and stood up to the purveyors of porkie pies at Watts Up With That in no uncertain terms:
 
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