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« Reply #1150 on: December 20, 2018, 11:06:01 AM »
Where to post this? If this is correct maybe those american troops in Syria are going to be needed elsewhere. Hmmmm maybe here...


http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3608-ukraine-attacking-donetsk-with-mortar-fire

I delayed reporting it to see where things went.  Things are getting worse.  The Ukraine military is now also attacking with Grenade launchers, armored vehicles and small arms fire.

According to numerous reports (Which I have NOT yet been able to confirm)  the Kiev Government is blasting homes and commercial buildings, which has already killed numerous civilians.  The attacks continue at this writing (6:02 PM EST Wednesday).

Donestsk and Luhansk are provinces (Oblasts) in Ukraine.  When the US and NATO funded and fomented the violent overthrow of the duly elected Ukrainian president, Victor Yanukovich, and installed a puppet regime favorable to NATO,  Donestsk and Luhansk "broke away" from Kiev, the capital of Ukraine.

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« Reply #1151 on: December 20, 2018, 01:08:33 PM »
Do you realize that Hal Turner "is an American white nationalist, Holocaust denier"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner
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« Reply #1152 on: December 20, 2018, 01:17:52 PM »
It should be possible to find better sources. If you can't, that means it's probably overblown.
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« Reply #1153 on: December 20, 2018, 03:17:23 PM »
wrong thread but in response;

Unian is a pro-Kiev site
Russian-led forces mounted seven attacks on Ukrainian troops in Donbas, eastern Ukraine, in the last 24 hours.
https://www.unian.info/war/10384233-ukraine-reports-seven-enemy-attacks-in-donbas-in-past-day.html
scroll down, some of the info comes via a Ukraine mil officer via facebook.

also the flip side says:
https://dan-news.info/en/defence-en/kiev-boosts-attack-force-on-northern-stretch-of-donbass-contact-line-intelligence.html

 the Donetsk People’s Republic Office at the Joint Centre for Control and Coordination (JCCC) said.
https://dan-news.info/en/society/ukrainian-forces-shell-northern-suburbs-of-donetsk-jccc.html

https://dan-news.info/en/defence-en/ukrainian-army-intensifies-fire-three-fold-over-24-hours-jccc.html

Situation normal?
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« Reply #1154 on: December 20, 2018, 08:51:56 PM »
Lurk

The unian sites are total BS, part of the "Ministry of Truth" set up in 2014 to "Combat Russian Propaganda". They won't admit that there is a civil war, so it's always  - The Russian Aggressors, The Russians Attacked or The Russians were Driven Back.

The UN reports are also slanted towards Ukraine, but far better than unian. They at least attempt to identify who is doing what to whom.

https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/multiplicity-rights-violations-ukraine-fifth-winter-conflict-bites

They note that out of more than 200 recent incidents, the government has been responsible for 147. They continue to consider that the Crimea is "occupied" by Russia.

It may take a few days to determine what, if anything is going on. RT and Sputnik are slanted, but their facts usually agree with reality.

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« Reply #1155 on: December 21, 2018, 03:27:24 AM »
Lurk

The unian sites are total BS, part of the "Ministry of Truth" set up in 2014 to "Combat Russian Propaganda". They won't admit that there is a civil war, so it's always  - The Russian Aggressors, The Russians Attacked or The Russians were Driven Back.

The UN reports are also slanted towards Ukraine, but far better than unian. They at least attempt to identify who is doing what to whom.

https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/multiplicity-rights-violations-ukraine-fifth-winter-conflict-bites

They note that out of more than 200 recent incidents, the government has been responsible for 147. They continue to consider that the Crimea is "occupied" by Russia.

It may take a few days to determine what, if anything is going on. RT and Sputnik are slanted, but their facts usually agree with reality.

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Yes. especially Unian .... obviously? Mmmm unfortunate what's obvious is not for so many, hey?

I was only attempting to show where the source ref'd by Red likely came from. It was from of those two as they seem to be the only one's with that kind of talk like that out there.

I do agree RT and Sputnik are slanted too, they take an 'editorial' view. Like every MSM outlet does. Choices are made as to which stories they run and which journalists will be hired or fired and who gets interviewed which of their comments makes it into the Headline. :)

Thanks for the ref, I checked OSCE but nothing there of any use. cheers
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« Reply #1156 on: December 21, 2018, 02:04:50 PM »
Yes, according to that UN report issues remain strained and of great concern in Ukraine, the self-declared republics of the east and in Crimea. No doubt many people suffer there in ways that don't make it into such reports. it would be good if the elections created an opportunity for a circuit breaker and towards resolution. 4 years is a very long time, longer than the time US was involved in WW2.
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« Reply #1157 on: December 21, 2018, 06:35:51 PM »
Not many posts on -

- Trump withdrawing US troops from Syria,
- Reports that half the US troops in Afghanistan to be withdrawn,
- Mattis resigning as Secretary of Defense and writing a strong criticism of Trump in his resignation letter,
- partial Government shutdown likely from midnight tonight.
- the ex-US Ambassador to the UN suggesting that the US may withdraw its membership of the UN. Nikki Haley has the ear of the President?

Nature abhors a vacuum. The law of unintended consequences applies.
As a non US citizen I am driven to the conclusion that Trump's "America First" policy means that other countries need to put "America Last" when considering their own interests.

One might think that this had some relevance to America and its future.
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« Reply #1158 on: December 21, 2018, 07:38:42 PM »
It's a start. Considering that the USA is everywhere:

"There are more than one thousand U.S. military bases dotting the globe. To be specific, the most accurate count is 1,077. Unless it’s 1,088. Or, if you count differently, 1,169. Or even one thousand one hundred and eighty. Actually, the number might even be higher. Nobody knows for sure."

https://www.guernicamag.com/empire_of_bases_20_does/

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175790/tomgram:_nick_turse,_special_ops_goes_global

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176182/tomgram:_nick_turse,_what_the_u.s._military_doesn't_know_(and_neither_do_you)/

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176048/tomgram:_nick_turse,_a_secret_war_in_135_countries/

Long way to go. Disengagement is one of the most difficult maneuvers.

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« Reply #1159 on: December 22, 2018, 06:19:38 AM »
Re: "As a non US citizen I am driven to the conclusion that Trump's "America First" policy means that other countries need to put "America Last" when considering their own interests."

As always. That's what Empires do. They betray their allies. As Palmerston said, no permanent allies or enemies, only permanent interests. In the last he was mistaken, in that the interests of nations change when their rulers do. But until then his aphorism holds true.

So, the Kurds are betrayed again. The Afghanis never trusted the foreign devils, and those who did have an unfortunate history of meeting lamposts up close and personal. Their neighbour, Pakistan, well recalls that the USA, in the words of a Pakistani general, "treated us like a condom and discarded us like a used one" in the 1980s. Other examples abound.

Coming now to the realization that the actions of the USA advance the interests of the USA, and that others best look to their own, is a little late in the day, don't you think ?

One nation that has never made that error is Israel. Their actions are instructive: if you wish the USA to act primarily for your country's interest, even opposed to its own, you must buy the politicians in the USA. Fortunately, they come very cheap, in terms of returns on investment.

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« Reply #1160 on: December 22, 2018, 01:35:57 PM »
This isn't news, it's war crime propaganda!


https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/this-isnt-news-this-is-war-crimes-apologia-8dd93d4058f4

Shrub Bush isn't a "beautiful, funny, kind, sweet man", he's a monster whose crimes would make his own father blush. (I considered Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Truman, but Daddy Bush seemed more appropriate) :(
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« Reply #1161 on: December 22, 2018, 01:42:29 PM »
Aah, Hitler and the Bush clan^^:

" How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

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« Reply #1162 on: December 22, 2018, 03:29:00 PM »
The UN General Assembly UN fails to support resolution on the INF.

   " These countries, especially the NATO members – contrary to their own statements about the importance of the INF Treaty – acted as its opponents."

The Friday’s vote shows how the US’ allies “de facto blessed” Washington for violating the INF deal, the foreign ministry stressed.

    A remarkable vote on #INFTreaty in #UNGA today. Western double standards clearly revealed - expressing worries but not supporting practical step in this regard. Only 1/4 of UN members support USA and NATO hypocricity on this issue https://t.co/31Uc4iyI64
    — Dmitry Polyanskiy (@Dpol_un) 21 декабря 2018 г.

Moscow’s envoy to the UN, Vasily Nebenzya told Rossiya 1 TV channel that prior to the vote his American counterpart, Nikki Haley, sent out a letter urging everyone to vote down the Russian draft.

As the US announced its willingness to ditch the landmark INF Treaty back in October, many European politicians defended the need to keep the existing agreement and hailed its role in nuclear disarmament. German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas called Washington’s decision “regrettable” as the treaty is “hugely important” to the European continent.

The Empire is in good order. Everyone who counts is following orders.

Meanwhile in the Persian Gulf:
The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS 'John C. Stennis,' belonging to the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, arrived in the Persian Gulf on Friday. It became the first American warship of its type to cross the Strait of Hormuz and sail in the waters off the Iranian coast since US President Donald Trump pulled the nation out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) on the Iranian nuclear program in May.

"We are trying to be more operationally unpredictable," said the fleet's spokesperson, Lieutenant Chloe Morgan, according to AP. Noting the months-long absence of a US carrier group in the region, she hinted that this might change. "Now we're switching it up because our adversaries are watching closely."

The US Navy keeping the world safe from those pesky Iranians and their horrid Oil. Aren't we so lucky?
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« Reply #1163 on: December 22, 2018, 09:45:36 PM »
No idea where to put this but at the same time it is an empire thing of some sort. It's my first exposure to such a thing and I don't mind saying it is a bit disturbing.
https://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/israel-weaponised-tourism-strengthen-occupation/

Among the different forms of tourism peddled by the Israeli state, war tourism has seen a remarkable expansion in recent years, and today represents a key occupation-strengthening mechanism. According to Haaretz, “IDF-style training for tourists has become a full-fledged industry.”

War tourism in the occupied territories can be divided into two principal categories: Simulatory War Tourism, which trains tourists to shoot at Palestinians through war simulation exercises, and Participatory War Tourism, which aims to recruit non-Israeli, often non-Jewish, individuals directly into the IDF, usually for military holidays on a temporary basis but, in some cases, as an avenue for obtaining Israeli citizenship.

Simulatory War Tourism

The function of Simulatory War Tourism is to acclimatise tourists to the organised violence of the Israeli occupation, thus enlisting them into its contours of power. There are four main organisations specialising in this field: Caliber 3, Funtum, Zikit Extreme and Cherev Gidon.

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« Reply #1164 on: December 23, 2018, 08:40:51 PM »
Turkey masses troops near Kurdish-held Syrian town 
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/turkey-masses-troops-kurdish-held-syrian-town-59984033

Turkey is massing troops near a town in northern Syria held by a U.S.-backed and Kurdish-led force, a war monitor said as Turkish media reported Sunday new reinforcements crossing the borders.

The Turkish IHA news agency reported that a convoy of Turkish troops — a commando unit — had been sent into Syria overnight.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the reinforcements were sent to the front line with Manbij, where U.S. troops have been based. The Observatory said 50 vehicles crossed into Syria — carrying troops and equipment.

The spokesman for the Kurdish-led Manbij Military Council, Sharfan Darwish, said Turkish reinforcements have arrived in the area. "We are taking necessary measures to defend ourselves if we are attacked," he said without elaborating.
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« Reply #1165 on: December 24, 2018, 07:24:47 AM »
I couldn't find much confirmation of that "The Observatory said 50 vehicles crossed into Syria — carrying troops and equipment." via Turkey press, from 3 sites below and Twitter fwiw:

Nearly 300,000 Syrians have returned to their country after Turkish military operations in the region, Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu has said, as Turkey plans a new operation into Syria and has been sending reinforcements to its southeastern border.

“The number of Syrians who returned to their country after operations Euphrates Shield and Olive Branch is 291,790,” Soylu said at the International Coordination Meeting on Irregular Migration in the Thrace province of Edirne.

Turkey conducted two cross-border operations in Syria since 2016 to eliminate the presence of the YPG, which it sees as the Syrian branch of the PKK, and ISIL across Turkey’s border.

Speaking about Turkey’s geographical location as the main route for what he called illegal crossings of refugees who want to go to Europe, the minister said that in 2018 so far 251,794 undocumented migrants were apprehended during their attempts to cross borders via illegal routes.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/300-000-syrians-back-owing-to-turkish-ops-139953

Turkey has trained 5,397 Afghan police officers since 2001 when the first police training agreement was signed between the two countries, Ankara's diplomat in Kabul said on Dec. 21.

The 2001 treaty reached by the two counties' Interior Ministries had facilitated the training of officers in 95 different fields, İlker Türkbayrak, Turkey's Interior Ministry's undersecretary in Ankara's embassy in Kabul said.

Türkbayrak told Anadolu Agency that a new phase began in 2011 with bi-yearly courses at a police training center in Turkey's central Sivas province.

Noting that 1,335 female officers were trained, he said Turkey was proud to have played such a major role in the training of half of Afghanistan's female police personnel.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-trains-over-5-000-afghan-police-officers-139937


U.S. President Donald Trump said President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has "very strongly" informed him that Turkey will eradicate whatever is left of the Daesh terror group in Syria, in a tweet early Monday.

Trump also reiterated in his tweet that U.S. troops will withdraw from Syria. He said Turkey is "next door" to Syria, and said President Erdoğan "can do it."
https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2018/12/24/erdogan-told-trump-that-turkey-will-eradicate-daesh

The case for Turkey's military incursion into northeastern Syria
THE EDITORIAL BOARD

Turkey's imminent military operation against PKK/YPG militants across its southern border should serve multiple purposes.
Driving out the organization from the east of the Euphrates river is the best way to permanently address the problem of illegal immigration. Home to more refugees than any other country in the world, Turkey is a transit route for illegal immigrants trying to reach Europe. Many Syrian refugees remain in Turkey because their native lands are still occupied by PKK/YPG militants. Among them are tens of thousands of Syrian Kurds who cannot return to their homes because they see the PKK as a terrorist organization – as do Turkey, the United States and the European Union.
https://www.dailysabah.com/editorial/2018/12/22/the-case-for-turkeys-military-incursion-into-northeastern-syria

Turkey will continue to support Palestinian people, Erdoğan says
https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2018/12/22/turkey-will-continue-to-support-palestinian-people-erdogan-says

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Sunday responded to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's criticizing remarks toward himself and Turkey.
"Erdoğan is the voice of the oppressed, you [Netanyahu] are the voice of the persecutors. You are cruel!" he said at an opening ceremony in Istanbul.
"You are conducting state terror, your police detain women and children by kicking and dragging them," he added.
He went on to say: "Israel has no right to accuse anyone without accounting for its own sins, crimes against humanity, massacres and destruction."

On Sunday, Benjamin Netanyahu, on his Twitter account, attacked Turkish president over Turkey's counter-terror operation and Cyprus issues.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/turkey-is-the-voice-of-the-oppressed-erdogan-says-in-response-to-netanyahu-3469930

Kilis region is in the west not the east where the Kurds are btw
Military vehicles belonging to the Turkish Army on their way to Syrian border in the southern Kilis province of Turkey on December 22, 2018. The military vehicles are transferred to troops on the Syrian side of the border.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/video-gallery/news/turkey-deploys-military-vehicles-to-syria-border-2198777

Turkish forces discover seven-room PKK hideout in southeast
Haber Merkezi 14:24 December 23, 2018 Yeni Şafak
The Turkish Armed Forces discovered three Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) hideouts, one of which had seven rooms, in the country's Diyarbakır province.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/video-gallery/news/turkish-forces-discover-7-room-pkk-hideout-in-southeast-2198785

Erdoğan sends Christmas greetings to Christian world
“In context of our civilization’s values, we, who take care to not discriminate people by their race, language, religion and sect, attach great importance to all citizens freely practicing their own culture, religion and traditions,” he stated.
“I wish the entire Christian world, primarily our Christian citizens, a happy Christmas.”
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/news/erdogan-sends-christmas-greetings-to-christian-world-3469917

As to Manjib, it is not in the eastern districts of Syria .. it is west of the Euphrates - Country Syria - Governorate   Aleppo - District Manbij. It has a HISTORY already with Turkey and the US.

November 23, 2018 / 6:38 PM / a month ago
Turkey says roadmap on Syria's Manbij needs to be completed by year-end
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - An agreement with the United States for the removal of a Kurdish militia from the northern Syrian town of Manbij needs to completed by the end of the year, Turkey said on Friday, voicing frustration with what it says is a deal beset by delays.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey/turkey-says-roadmap-on-syrias-manbij-needs-to-be-completed-by-year-end-idUSKCN1NS0LM

News     Turkey - November 01 2018 17:04:00
Joint Turkey-US patrols begin in Syria’s Manbij
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-army-starts-joint-patrols-with-us-in-syrias-manbij-138493

"Manjib News" on Twitter  https://twitter.com/hashtag/manbij?lang=en

Remember how Turkey supported ISIS in #Manbij. Kurds & Arabs together liberated Manbij from ISIS. Today, Manbij is a safe & peaceful city under the control of Manbij Military Counci (MMC), part of SDF. Erdogan's army wants to destroy the city & bring back its jihadists to Manbij
and

While the US is blocking (SYRIA -SAA)  regime forces south of #Manbij.
and

Who will be the first to take #Manbij? Brave #SAA that massing in the south or #Turkey from the north… The Kurds must make the right decision if they do not want to return to the Ottoman Empire!
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« Reply #1166 on: December 27, 2018, 01:42:53 AM »
Taibbi on Trump's withdrawal:

"The real line is between a war party, and everyone else."

"As to the argument that we’re abandoning Syria to Russians — anyone who is interested in reducing Russian power should be cheering. If there’s any country in the world that equals us in its ability to botch an occupation and get run out on a bloody rail after squandering piles of treasure, it’s Russia. They may even be better at it than us. We can ask the Afghans about that on our way out of there."

"The Afghan conflict became the longest military engagement in American history eight years ago."

"NATO persisted mainly as a PR mechanism for a) justifying continued obscene defense spending levels and b) giving a patina of internationalism to America’s essentially unilateral military adventures."

" ... we’ve successfully brainwashed big chunks of the population into thinking it’s normal for a country to exist in a state of permanent war, fighting in seven countries at once, spending half of all discretionary funding on defense.

It’s not. It’s insane. And we’ll never be a healthy society, or truly respected abroad, until we stop accepting it as normal."

Read the whole thing:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-syria-withdrawal-772177/

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« Reply #1167 on: December 27, 2018, 02:55:42 AM »
Taibbi on Trump's withdrawal:
. . .
It’s not. It’s insane. And we’ll never be a healthy society, or truly respected abroad, until we stop accepting it as normal."

Read the whole thing:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-syria-withdrawal-772177/

sidd

Thanks, sidd, it's a very good article.  Clear, coherent arguments, clear facts and references, well-written.  I agree with every word, *except* one paragraph:

"You’ll hear we’re abandoning allies and inviting massacres by the likes of Turkish dictator Recep Tayyip Erdogan. If there was any evidence that our presence there would do anything but screw up the situation even more, I might consider that a real argument. At any rate, there are other solutions beyond committing American lives. We could take in more refugees, kick Turkey out of NATO, impose sanctions, etc."

This is terribly vague, glib, and indefensible.  Our 2000 troops are what stand between the Kurds (and SDF) and an impending multi-pronged attack from all other sides active in Syria.  This is where the execution of the Trump's excellent goal (withdrawal from quagmires) is being conducted with criminal incompetence.  Remember that the Kurds did most of the fighting and dying in the fight against ISIS in Syria.  All they asked was the tools with which to do the fighting. 

Taibbi is correct that we might fix that problem by offering refugee status to our best ally there.  But that's incompatible with a quick withdrawal.  Besides, he knows damn well how Trump feels about refugees. 

The devil is in the details.  Details matter.  The details of exactly *how* we execute a withdrawal are as important as whether and when to withdraw. 

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« Reply #1168 on: December 27, 2018, 06:16:21 AM »
Re: detail as excuse for delay

That is exactly the argument that the generals have given presidents since time immemorial. I have zero faith that the USA, after decades of screwups in the Middle East can execute anything with grace and mercy. Including disengagement. But remaining is worse.

Consider this:

Everyone on the street in your warzones hates you. Every man's hand is against you. Your only supporters are cruel strongmen puppets and head choppers you or your proxies funded. And those hapeless people who trusted you. Like the Hmong, for example, in another war.

You can do nothing for the last. Your own polity will not allow you to resettle them en masse in the USA, which would be the best thing you could do.

Yes, people will die if you leave. But it is my strong conviction that more will die if you remain. You are generating more terrorists every minute you stay, and soon, if you continue, one of them will inflict worse grief on your home than Osama did. And as usual, you will react in even greater spasmodic fury. Hundred year war, anyone ?

People like Sjursen actually served and commanded men to their deaths for the greater glory of Empire. They will tell you.

Get the fuck out. Now.

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« Reply #1169 on: January 02, 2019, 08:27:36 AM »
Well. Well. Well. Xi comes out for Taiwan unification. Here is a Chinese government statement:

http://en.people.cn/n3/2019/0102/c90000-9533881.html

and our pal Al (jazeera)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/01/xi-change-fact-taiwan-part-china-190102030037389.html

Reunification has been a stance of PRC forawhile. But when they choose to voice that stance is significant. So i think either

a) Xi feels now confident enuf to in alliance with russia, africa, latin america, belt and road to voice that stance

and/or

b) Xi wants to stretch Empire into provocation over Taiwan and South China Sea into another unwinnable trillion dollar plus war . But why now ? Empire is in decline, China ascendant anyway. Why precipitate matters ? Does he see hidden weakness ?

On the whole, I think a). But if Empire can be drawn into unwinnable war, i do not think he would mind. Sorta like Osama, but with a much longer Chinese history to draw on.

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« Reply #1170 on: January 02, 2019, 11:36:33 AM »
Beijing has also been proclaiming the success of its own hypersonic missile program, stating it gives them the power to drive the United States out of the South China Sea by sinking its aircraft carriers.

The electromagnetic rail gun is another incarnation of the advantages of extreme speed.

"Railguns use electromagnetic energy to attack targets and are considered an advanced technology that offers greater range and more lethality, while the cost is even cheaper than traditional guns," the China Aerospace Science & Industry Corporation announced in 2015.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12184829

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« Reply #1171 on: January 03, 2019, 10:32:46 PM »
At wsws, a thoughtful look at ethnographies of Empire and the role of hidden control of ostensibly independent nations:

"The flags flying over the guard gate of the prison in Lukavica were those of Bosnia and the European Union, and the US was officially involved in the imprisonment of the men there only through diplomatic channels, generous funding and the assistance of American trainers and advisers. And yet the US empire was the thinly veiled power behind the very existence of the prison and all that happened there."

" the fates of people from specific countries were largely determined by the nature of US imperial relations with the countries involved. "

"President Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana wrote, "The essence of neo-colonialism is that the State which is subject to it is, in theory, independent and has all the outward trappings of international sovereignty. In reality its economic system and thus its political policy is directed from outside ... the worst form of imperialism. For those who practice it, it means power without responsibility, and for those who suffer from it, it means exploitation without redress." "

"Nkrumah was deposed in a military coup orchestrated by the CIA the year after his words were published ..."

Read the whole thing:

https://original.antiwar.com/Nicolas_Davies/2019/01/02/the-hidden-structure-of-us-empire/

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« Reply #1172 on: January 07, 2019, 02:13:05 AM »
Watch out Canada: might need a wall

"while only 11 percent and 10 percent wanted to leave the county under former presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, respectively, that number surged to 16 percent in 2018 under Trump."

" Most—26 percent, Gallup found—would head north to Canada."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/record-numbers-of-americans-want-to-leave-the-u-s-because-of-trump/

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« Reply #1173 on: January 07, 2019, 03:05:34 AM »
Watch out Canada: might need a wall

"while only 11 percent and 10 percent wanted to leave the county under former presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, respectively, that number surged to 16 percent in 2018 under Trump."

" Most—26 percent, Gallup found—would head north to Canada."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/record-numbers-of-americans-want-to-leave-the-u-s-because-of-trump/

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If 16% of the Never Trumpers escape to the north, Trump will be a shoo in for the next term. :(


Do these prospective immigrants know how to pick fruit?
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« Reply #1175 on: January 10, 2019, 06:59:34 AM »
 The Dark Overlord hacker group has released decryption keys for a second batch of 9/11 documents, totalling over 7,500 files. Additional document leaks containing “more secrets” and “more truth” have been promised, for a price.

The first batch of the supposed 18,000 documents was made available by the hackers at the weekend, along with a decryption key for ‘layer 1’ of the dump. The documents are believed to have been stolen from insurance companies, law firms and government agencies, and the hackers originally demanded an unspecified bitcoin ransom to keep them unreleased
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« Reply #1176 on: January 10, 2019, 07:07:57 AM »
George Galloway was a member of the British Parliament for nearly 30 years. He presents TV and radio shows (including on RT). He is a film-maker, writer and a renowned orator.

Fall of Empires: London, Washington & Paris on brink of collapse

 Despite the thrashing around of the NATO disinformation apparat, the imperial heartland has entered 2019 in a state of complete chaos.

Washington, London, and Paris – the three capitals of the Empire – are today effectively ungoverned, shutdown, tottering on the brink of collapse or under siege by their own people.

Their self-chosen Nemeses – Moscow and Beijing – meanwhile toast the New Year in a state of considerable optimism and self-confidence. These are the facts, this is the news.
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The very conditions Macron strove so very hard to bring about in Damascus and that France DID help bring about in Kiev are now rocking the very foundations of the French Republic.
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This week, the EU (and NATO) government of Italy joined the side of the 'Gilets-Jaunes', with Italy's Salvini personally denouncing the French president as being "against his own people."

This Saturday, a mammoth demonstration will take place in London, leveling the same raft of anti-austerity demands on the British government as the Yellow Vests are making of Macron. The center cannot hold.

The old order is dying; the new one cannot be born. If we are not careful we will soon be alive in the time of monsters.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/448381-fall-empires-washington-london-paris/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

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« Reply #1177 on: January 14, 2019, 11:02:54 AM »
What Trump’s Syrian Withdrawal Really Reveals
A wise decision is greeted by denunciations, obstructionism, imperial thinking, and more Russia-bashing.
By Stephen F. Cohen
January 9, 2019

Anti-Trumpism is creating political CULTS of US intelligence and military institutions. What does this tell us about today’s Democratic Party? More profoundly, what does this tell us about an American Republic purportedly based on civilian rule?


{...}

    I am certain that, at some time in the future, President Xi and I, together with President Putin of Russia, will start talking about a meaningful halt to what has become a major and uncontrollable Arms Race. The U.S. spent 716 Billion Dollars this year. Crazy!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2018

In this context, there is Trump’s remarkable, but little-noted or forgotten, tweet of December 3 calling on the presidents of Russia and China to join him in “talking about a meaningful halt to what has become a major and uncontrollable Arms Race.”

If Trump acts on this essential overture, as we must hope he will, will it too be traduced as “treacherous”—also for the first time in American history?

If so, it will again confirm my often-expressed thesis that powerful forces in America would prefer trying to impeach the president to avoiding a military catastrophe. And that those forces, not President Trump or Putin, are now the gravest threat to American national security.


Stephen F. Cohen, professor emeritus of politics and Russian studies at Princeton and NYU, and John Batchelor mark the fifth anniversary of their (usually) weekly discussions of the new US-Russian Cold War. (Previous installments are at TheNation.com.)
https://www.thenation.com/article/what-trumps-syrian-withdrawal-really-reveals/
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« Reply #1178 on: January 20, 2019, 06:42:10 AM »
(Stockholm, 10 December 2018) Sales of arms and military services by the world’s largest arms-producing and military services companies—the SIPRI Top 100—totalled $398.2 billion in 2017, according to new international arms industry data released today by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).

The total for the SIPRI Top 100 in 2017 is 2.5 per cent higher than in 2016 and represents an increase of 44 per cent since 2002 (the first year for which comparable data is available; figures exclude China). This is the third consecutive year of growth in Top 100 arms sales.

"The overall number excludes Chinese data due to the lack of available information to allow for a reasonable or consistent estimate," the report reads.

US companies increase their share of total Top 100 arms sales

With 42 companies listed in 2017, companies based in the United States continued to dominate the Top 100 in 2017. Taken together, the arms sales of US companies grew by 2.0 per cent in 2017, to $226.6 billion, which accounted for 57 per cent of total Top 100 arms sales. Five US companies were listed in the top 10 in 2017. ‘US companies directly benefit from the US Department of Defense’s ongoing demand for weapons,’ says Aude Fleurant, Director of SIPRI’s Arms and Military Expenditure Programme.

Russia becomes the second largest arms producer in the Top 100

The combined arms sales of Russian companies accounted for 9.5 per cent of the Top 100 total, making Russia the second largest arms producer in the Top 100 in 2017—a position that had been occupied by the United Kingdom since 2002.

The UK remains the largest arms producer in Western Europe

The combined arms sales of the 24 companies in Western Europe listed in the Top 100 increased by 3.8 per cent in 2017, to $94.9 billion, which accounted for 23.8 per cent of the Top 100 total. The UK remained the largest arms producer in the region in 2017, with total arms sales of $35.7 billion and seven companies listed in the Top 100.

Other notable developments

    The arms sales of Turkish companies rose by 24 per cent in 2017. ‘This significant increase reflects Turkey’s ambitions to develop its arms industry to fulfil its growing demand for weapons and become less dependent on foreign suppliers,’ says Pieter Wezeman, Senior Researcher with SIPRI’s Arms and Military Expenditure Programme.

https://www.sipri.org/media/press-release/2018/global-arms-industry-us-companies-dominate-top-100-russian-arms-industry-moves-second-place
 

Top 100 arms sales breakdown:-
USA 57% + Western Europe (NATO) 23.8% = 80.8% ; While Russia  = 9.5%  ; and everyone else = 9.7% plus China (?).


Here's the top ten of the world's biggest defense [ Attack? ] corporations by sales, according to the institute.

1. Lockheed Martin The US company reportedly sold arms worth $44.9 billion in 2017, marking an 8.3 percent growth against the year prior.

2. Boeing US space and aircraft giant Boeing brought in $26.9 billion in sales. 2017 marked a substantial gap of $18 billion between Lockheed Martin and Boeing.

3. Raytheon This US arms manufacturer is reportedly the world's biggest producer of guided missiles and missile defense systems. The company reportedly earned $23.9 billion.

4. BAE Systems The British arms producer sold $22.9 billion worth of weapons, demonstrating a 3.3 percent growth against the previous year. The UK remained the largest arms producer in the region in 2017, with total arms sales of $35.7 billion.

5. Northrop Grumman This US arms-manufacturing corporation brought $22.4 billion in sales in 2017, marking a modest year-on-year growth of 2.4 percent.

6. General Dynamics The Virginia-based defense company sold arms worth $19.5 billion, marking a slight decrease from $19.6 billion the previous year. Its M1 Abrams tank has been used in nearly every major US military operation over the past 40 years.

7. Airbus Group The second largest defense contractor in Europe, Airbus, brought in $11.3 billion in arms sales in 2017. Arms sales are not the key revenue earner for the European aerospace giant accounting for only 15 percent of its $75 billion revenue. The Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet most recognizable military product.

8.Thales French defense corporation Thales demonstrated sales of $9 billion, which is around half of its total 2017 revenue

9. Leonardo Italian weapon producer brought in $8.9 billion in 2017 arms sales, which makes 68 percent of its total revenue. Leonardo produces helicopters, missiles and drones, as well as equipment for non-military space programs.

10. Almaz-Antey The Russian weapons supplier entered the top ten of the SIPRI's annual ranking. In 2017, the country's biggest arms company increased sales by 17 percent to $8.6 billion. The company's flagship product, the S-400, a mobile long-range surface-to-air missile system, has managed to lure dozens of foreign military buyers over the last five years.
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« Reply #1179 on: January 27, 2019, 08:20:05 AM »
Where should this go?

Canada - “Last night I asked for and accepted John McCallum’s resignation as Canada’s Ambassador to China,” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Saturday, without providing the reason behind the dismissal of the diplomat. The deputy head of the diplomatic mission in Beijing will take over until a new ambassador is appointed.

The dismissal of Ambassador McCallum, who “served Canadians honorably and with distinction,” follows his statements, seemingly defending Huawei Chief Financial Officer Meng Wanzhou, who was arrested on December 1 in Vancouver at the request of the US over alleged violations of Washington’s sanctions on Iran.

Quoting Ambassador McCallum:

"I think Ms. Meng has quite a strong case. One, political involvement by comments from [US President] Donald Trump in her case. Two, there’s an extraterritorial aspect to her case, and three, there’s the issue of Iran sanctions which are involved in her case, and Canada does not sign on to these Iran sanctions.”

https://www.rt.com/news/449853-canada-china-ambassador-fired-huawei/

So he's gone.

Israel has warned Ireland over passing a bill to ban imports of West Bank settlement products, saying the legislation, if adopted, would have “severe ramifications” on mutual relations, AP reported.

Israel’s Foreign Ministry said Friday it summoned Irish Ambassador Alison Kelly to the headquarters in Jerusalem and made Israel’s stance on the matter clear to her.

The ministry says the bill, which was advanced in Ireland’s lower house of parliament on Thursday, is “hypocritical and anti-Semitic.”

The law envisions prison terms and high fines for Irish businesses trading with goods originating from illegal settlements on occupied land.

If the bill becomes law, Ireland would become the first European country to ban settlement goods and would apply to illegal occupations anywhere in the world, not just Palestine and Israel.

The EU in 2015 issued guidelines on labeling settlement products. Palestinians see the West Bank as part of their future state.

https://www.rt.com/newsline/449724-israel-ireland-boycott-settlement/

The only reason Israel can do what it does is because of the US.
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« Reply #1180 on: February 07, 2019, 08:58:25 PM »
How Empire works: a wealth pump into the USA

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 While the U.S. can ask almost any other nation’s banks for financial information about American citizens, it has no obligation to provide other countries with the same. “The United States had bullied the rest of the world into scrapping financial secrecy,” Bullough writes, “but hadn’t applied the same standards to itself.” A Zurich-based lawyer vividly spelled out the consequences to Bloomberg: “How ironic—no, how perverse—that the USA, which has been so sanctimonious in its condemnation of Swiss banks, has become the banking secrecy jurisdiction du jour … That ‘giant sucking sound’ you hear? It is the sound of money rushing to the USA.”
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The script laid bare the reasons for wealthy foreigners to funnel money through Nevada: The state is the ideal place to hide money from governments and avoid paying U.S. taxes. The draft acknowledged a truth that bankers don’t usually admit in public, which is that the United States has “little appetite” for helping foreign governments retrieve money laundered within its borders. In fact, it has grown into “the biggest tax haven in the world.”
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read the whole thing:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/how-kleptocracy-came-to-america/580471/

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« Reply #1181 on: February 07, 2019, 10:37:23 PM »
Lears at nybooks reviews two books on decline of Empire: "It is hard to give up something you claim you never had."

"Americans, we have been told, do things differently: they bestow self-determination on backward peoples who yearn for it. The refusal to acknowledge that Americans have pursued their own version of empire—with the same self-deceiving hubris as Europeans—makes it hard to see that the US empire might (like the others) have a limited lifespan. "

" “Nothing can be more preposterous than the proposition that these men were entitled to receive from us sovereignty over the entire country which we were invading,” Secretary of War Elihu Root said in 1900 about the Filipino rebels. “As well the friendly Indians, who have helped us in our Indian wars, might have claimed the sovereignty of the West.” "

"American disregard for international law helps explain the incoherence of contemporary strategic thought."

"Barring a dramatic shift in public discourse, the American empire will not go gentle into that good night; more likely it will, as Dylan Thomas counseled the old, “burn and rave at close of day.” "

"No one burns and raves more flagrantly than Donald Trump. "

" Hendrickson concludes, “It is crystal clear that the empire is fully determined to stick around,” despite our desperate need to dismantle it. "

Read at

https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2019/02/07/imperial-exceptionalism/

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« Reply #1182 on: February 13, 2019, 01:54:04 AM »
Most people are slow to catch on but that is changing.

 Japan and South Korea – US allies and home to a combined 82,000 US troops – see the United States as a “major threat” to global security. The Koreans fear the US more than North Korea, and more than anyone fears Russia.

The world is a fearful place, a new Pew Research survey has found. Cyberattacks, Islamic terrorism, economic instability, and climate chaos are all considered threats to global security. However, the power and influence of the United States is keeping more people than ever before up at night, even as President Trump withdraws troops from Syria and boasts of strides towards peace in North Korea.

In 2013, only one-quarter of people across 22 nations saw the US as a threat to their countries. That figure jumped to 38 percent in 2017 and rose further to 45 percent last year.

Moreover, 17 countries consider Washington a bigger threat than Moscow. Among these countries are several US allies, including Australia, Canada, France, and Germany.
https://www.rt.com/news/451319-korea-japan-fear-america/

Common sesne seems to be catching on ... but hey don't just pick on Russian news outlets for sharing the truth coming out of the PEW Research ... the wise conservative statesmen ex-PMs in Australia see it the very same way and, like me, worked that all out by themselves years ago:

Dangerous Allies
Malcolm Fraser, Cain Roberts
We need the US for defence, but we only need defence because of the US
https://www.mup.com.au/books/dangerous-allies-paperback-softback

The more who wake up to this simple provable fact the better.
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« Reply #1183 on: February 14, 2019, 03:14:46 AM »
The American War Machine ....... and it's Global Propaganda Agents - a JD video back in Jan 2019




Now this one-off example may not have got any coverage on the RCP home page nor in any of the MSM outlets in the USA or globally and it will continue to be dismissed out of hand and ignored by the highly conditioned walking the streets and browsing forums but that does not mean it was not important, not momentous or will stop it from continuing to have a cumulative effect in time.

https://twitter.com/warkin?lang=en

https://medium.com/@ggreenwald/full-email-from-william-arkin-leaving-nbc-and-msnbc-1fb0d1dc692b

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/01/03/veteran-nbc-commentator-rips-failures-pro-war-posture-corporate-media-scathing

https://theintercept.com/2019/01/03/veteran-nbcmsnbc-journalist-blasts-the-network-for-being-captive-to-the-national-security-state-and-reflexively-pro-war-to-stop-trump/

The Future? Empire America and Americans in general do not have a future.

No more than the Third Reich had a future in 1933.
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« Reply #1184 on: February 14, 2019, 03:37:16 AM »
Actor Danny Clover tears apart the American Neoliberal Corporatist Disinformation Anti-Democracy Propaganda Campaign over Venezuela and South America.




07:06
"... so this whole thing this whole way we were watching we watched and we saw this we witness we were drawn to it the left may have criticized parts of it it wasn't didn't go far enough what was explained as socialism may have been considered to be social democratic etc etc but this movement was in the process and everything else.

At the same time all these conspiratorial forces were there to try to undermine it, to limit its effectiveness and subvert it. And those things were happening and we see this in Venezuela especially because the ideas came out of Venezuela."


Because Venezuela is not a country of 200 million people so it's difficult to get a consensus among 200 million people you know, but Venezuela it's a very small country so the sample size of building two million homes, training doctors, of having doctors to service communities, in the Barios  and other communities that had been disenfranchised and not served at all, well all that
was doable on the way to eliminate eradicate illiteracy as well
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All this was doable in the sense so all these things which we would take out to the world (as real PROGRESS) were necessary, necessary demands for the human existence and their progression in their lives, everything, those things were happening right here.

So what we see now is a brutal attempt to stop it all and whether it whether it finds itself in the  illegal imprisonment of Lula Da Silva (in Brazil) or the illegal coup that occurred, the coup it happened a Legislative Coup it happened with President Dilma Rousseff, so all these things are happening right now ...."


(this time in Venezuela with Maduro after several attempts by the very same Criminal Conspirators to get rid of Chavez which failed.)
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« Reply #1185 on: February 14, 2019, 04:46:25 AM »
Danny Glover continued explaining history and the facts of the matter:
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".... so whatever we talk about this becomes, this moment, the danger that we have now and the danger that we see is a full-scale conflict will to decimate not simply you know people's (lives) but the gains that were made by this action called the Bolivarian Revolution over the last twenty years.

This would - this is the tip to kill that - that is what is on the table and had always been on the table you know. Power always in this sense this corruptive dangerous (American) power that this country has is always tempted to diminish people's expectations.

I don't care if it's Mayan Indians in Guatemala, I don't care if those who fought for independence against the Sandinistas who fought for independence and won their war, whatever it is is to diminish their expectations."

How is that stand up comics and actors know so much about history and context and are capable of connecting the obvious dots in connected events and and the actions of nation states like the USA yet media journalists and politicians are utterly useless at this?

Along with many social media jockeys most of whom do not seem to know anything useful except for what's reported in the MSM, a cheap media blog website or the cable news networks.

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 ..... and all of this is what's driving say Canadian policy and interest of the Lima group and why now Canada is doing the bidding for Donald Trump and for John Bolton and others. But talk a little
bit about the interests the capital interest driving foreign policy here.


Glover 14:48
"Well for a long time is had we think about the nation-state and everything but the nation-state is it's so many in so many ways as has it's something dissolved into relationships that purely depend upon the multinational corporations you know.

When corporations in some sense the Corporations rule the world - they dictate policy - they can do anything - create a currency crisis that destabilizes economies anywhere - they wanted to this that's the issue.

So it's the nation-state now in some sense it's represented by these corporate interests which have the interest in raw materials you know, and certainly we can look at the world you know - one of the main issues is that perhaps Africa has never had the kind of kind of clear (ideal/identity) - because of the way rural colonialism played - because there was no major figure like Simone Bolivar who who came in and expressed a certain identity in terms of Latin America and the people of South America as well - because it wasn't there they didn't have the same outcome (?) look at the Congo you know ........... "
   
(iow they are different situations and circumstances and history despite many similarities - South America is culturally different in a multitude of ways from Arts to Academia to Values to social norms and economics. )


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"Another picture of this is the picture of a Venezuela with the enormous and i mean the most what I think the most egalitarian usage of national resources and that we've seen in a long while, I mean in that 20 year period of time. of taking those resources and turning those resources into places where they benefited its people and everything else, it's a dangerous precedent!

And what do we draw from this? You know we could talk about all the liberal ideas that we want and all the ideas of independence and self-sufficiency and everything else but when the country attempts to become self-sufficient in his own way and thereby is self-sufficiency allows them to place demands on themselves and place demands on those who attempt to alter or change that well that's another reality."

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« Reply #1186 on: February 14, 2019, 12:45:41 PM »
One last thing and then I'll move onto other pastures

"A House Divided .... essentially it's a dissection of what's happening in the United States politically and there's this exchange that happens towards the end of the film and I want to take a quote there because the first time I saw it I had to stop in and go back and watch it again because it was so I I just thought it was so scary and profound and it was it exchanged between Shane Smith who's a he's an owner of Vice news but he was the reporter in this film and Frank Luntz who if any of you know who he is he's a Republican pollster he's very famous in the United States probably the most famous pollster in the country today and Smith asks him this question he says:"If it's toxic (and he's referring to the political system) in the US and it can't be fixed where does American politics go from there?"

And this is Lunzt's reply he says: "That's why I tell people I'm going to New Zealand and I'm going to buy 15 acres somewhere and I'll sell out 14 so if you want to buy an acre let me know."

And it cuts to Shane Smith and you just kind of see him, 'what are you kidding here?' and then he says Lunzt says:

"No I'm not kidding I'm going in December. At some point, (and this is this is where what he said I just thought I can't believe somebody as mainstream and establishment as him is saying this), at some point the economy just stops functioning. The Greeks did not survive, the Romans did not survive, the French did not survive, the British did not survive, why should we think the American Empire will survive? I don't know and I unfortunately will probably still be alive I wish I wasn't when this whole thing comes tumbling down."

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« Reply #1187 on: February 14, 2019, 03:07:25 PM »
Gosh Harper's Ferry gets a mention in this talk, how odd.



Enjoy ...
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« Reply #1188 on: February 14, 2019, 04:18:03 PM »
Last year Chris Hedges' new book tour gained some attention. Several refs to that were shared here at the time.

Here's another one from Canada radio which is a nice reminder of his key points and upon which they were built. It's a good interview. Boy he sure covers some territory even about corrupt pastors.

But most pointedly is that Chris hedges is so far to me the only person who has been able to cogently assemble an accurate self-sustaining grounded in reality critique of Trump and the imminent dangers of the movement he now leads.

The Bernies, the Tulsis and the AOCs are good and they're way too nice and cute about it while Pelosi Obama et al are simply useless - Chris Hedges on the other hand is cut throat about it. He calls it as it truly is and still connects the dots back to every other ill and egregious myth and falsehood.

Hey, but that's just me and my take. I'm weird as I much prefer 'stories' that are still grounded in historical facts. You may think differently about it. I mean, he does have an RT TV show after all. Gotta a be a big bad cross that one, right? ;)

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« Reply #1189 on: February 19, 2019, 12:05:41 PM »
 NATO’s Atlantic Council hijacks Munich conference with revisionist ‘principles’ declaration
Published time: 19 Feb, 2019
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/451783-atlantic-council-declaration-revisionist/


Declaration of Principles for Freedom, Prosperity, and Peace

We, citizens, former officials, and representatives of governments and private entities, united by common values, have agreed as follows:
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/programs/brent-scowcroft-center/fsr-initiative/declaration-of-principles
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« Reply #1190 on: February 21, 2019, 11:08:42 AM »
Has Macron gone nuts or was he always this way?

“Anti-Semitism is hiding itself behind anti-Zionism,” Macron said Wednesday, speaking at the Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions (Crif) and announcing that France seeks to define “anti-Zionism as a modern-day form of anti-Semitism.”
https://www.rt.com/news/452040-anti-zionism-semitism-macron/

Macron is trying tie BDS actions against Israel as anti-Zionist while making anti-Zionism or criticism of Israel's actions ( including those that are obviously religious/racial hate motivated - this land is OUR land, God gave it to us ) equivalent to being anti-Semitic "under the Law."

This would never have flown in France in the 1960s - doubt it will today either - but wait and see.
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« Reply #1191 on: March 06, 2019, 10:14:19 PM »
Satrap defends Empire: no justice for the dispossessed

"The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ordered Britain to hand back the Chagos Islands, including Diego Garcia, to Mauritius"

"an overwhelming majority of 13 to 1, with only the US voting against"

" Diego Garcia, the largest island, is the site of one of the largest US airbases with some 4,000 US troops as well as British troops stationed there. "

"The British government, determined to hold onto its colonial possessions, has rejected both the ICJ’s order ..."

" Britain allowing the CIA to use Diego Garcia as a “dark site” where it detained and tortured people"

"forcibly evicted the vast majority of Chagossians from the archipelago and prevented their return."

"a sordid deal with Washington that was kept secret from both Parliament and the US Congress. This granted the US a 50-year lease on Diego Garcia in return for an $11 million discount on the US-made Polaris nuclear weapons system"

" the islanders were illegally deported to Mauritius and the Seychelles, another former British colony, where they have lived in desperately impoverished conditions"

"the Foreign Office finally announced that Chagos islanders would not be given the right of return to resettle, arguing that the cost and US objections made it impossible"

Read and weep:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/03/06/chag-m06.html

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« Reply #1192 on: March 07, 2019, 02:45:11 AM »
Ankara’s resilience against US pressure over the purchase of the S-400 systems remains rock solid, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan clarified on Wednesday, stressing that Turkey is a sovereign nation which has the right to choose its trade partners and arms suppliers.

“It’s done. There can never be a turning back. This would not be ethical, it would be immoral. Nobody should ask us to lick up what we spat,” Erdogan told Kanal 24. "We’re an independent country, not slaves."

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I am seeing more and more similarities to the geopolitical changes and shifts in the world in two decade lead up to WW2. It all started over trade, sanctions, embargoes and arms control etc and various nations claims over territory and Japans assertion it had a "legal right" to mine it's resources in China and to take what it wanted because it was more powerful than the Chinese Government was. Initially the USA was quite OK with Japan and others in China.

One needs to go back to the Boxer Rebellion to see what the western powers and Japan were doing in China that later led to the situation in the 1920s and 30s.  While many things are different there is much mirroring going on from that period right now.
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« Reply #1193 on: March 07, 2019, 02:49:57 AM »
Speaking to senior staff of the Federal Security Service President Vladimir Putin warned of foreign intelligence increasing activities against the country and ordered security services to step up their counter efforts.

Foreign intelligence agencies are “seeking access to information of a political, economic, scientific and technological nature, by all available means,” Putin stressed, adding that they are also making more efforts “to influence developments inside Russia.”

He has revealed that as many as 129 personnel officers and 465 agents belonging to foreign intelligence were foiled last year.

Putin called on Russian security forces to ensure protection of data related to technologies and weapons development in the face of increased threats of cyberattacks. He also ordered them to speed up the modernization of border control equipment.

Experts, commenting on Putin’s speech, agree that Russia is the main focus of foreign intelligence, after the US proclaimed it “an adversary, meddling in its internal affairs.”

https://www.rt.com/russia/453184-putin-spies-russia-security/
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« Reply #1194 on: March 07, 2019, 03:00:08 AM »
Banning Hezbollah is the equivalent of banning Sein Fein in Northern Island in the middle of the Good Friday Peace agreement negotiations ie insane and not grounded in truth or reality.


Hezbollah’s ban in the UK is a badge of honour
Published time: 6 Mar, 2019

Attaining to the status of rule of thumb is that whenever a military and/or political organization is proscribed in the West, prudence demands a closer look; this on the basis that in most cases (though not all) what ‘they’ deem worthy of being proscribed and banned is in truth worthy of support.

Take Hezbollah, for example, and the British government’s decision to criminalise the Shiite group’s political wing. Previously only the group’s military wing had been banned in the UK. Is there anyone left in the room that seriously believes this constitutes anything other than another feeble manifestation of the UK’s servile toadying to Washington?

In what stands as a monument to opportunism, the Trump administration has consistently placed Hezbollah in same terrorism box as Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) and Al-Qaeda, conveniently eliding the small detail that the Lebanese resistance and national liberation movement has done as much as, if not more than, any single military force in fighting and defeating IS and Al-Qaeda in Syria.

Author of ‘The Battle For Syria’, Christopher Phillips, writes, “Given Hezbollah’s reputation as the most impressive military force in the Arab world, [the group’s involvement in the conflict] sapped rebel morale and boosted the regime. By offering expertise that Assad lacked, such as light infantry and urban warfare expertise, training, or directing military tactics, from 2013 [Hezbollah] became a vital component of Assad’s forces and greatly shaped the conflict.”

The move to ban Hezbollah’s political wing in the UK combines with the organization’s consistent demonization in Washington as part of the ongoing neocon crusade against Iran. It is a crusade that attests to the Shia behemoth’s resolute stance in resistance to and defiance of US hegemony and its regional proxies, Israel and Saudi Arabia.
etc
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/453174-hezbollah-ban-uk-isis/


A gift for Bibi: Galloway slams ‘foolish’ UK decision to brand Hezbollah political wing ‘terrorists’
Published time: 25 Feb, 2019
“Hezbollah is a major parliamentary and governmental force in Lebanon, a friendly country, and this decision will make British relations with Lebanon impossible,” George Galloway told RT.
etc
https://www.rt.com/news/452382-hezbollah-terrorists-uk-galloway/


Empire - America and the future?

That's easy to forecast - full scale War across the entire globe on every continent eventually.
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« Reply #1195 on: March 07, 2019, 03:16:13 AM »
 Huawei sues US government over federal ban on its equipment
Published time: 7 Mar, 2019 02:10


 US President Donald Trump has revoked the executive order requiring public reports on civilian casualties in drone strikes carried out by the CIA, as well as US military.

The new executive order, issued Wednesday, revokes the reporting requirement introduced by President Barack Obama in July 2016.  The action required the Director of National Intelligence to release an unclassified summary of US strikes against terrorists “outside areas of active hostilities” and assessments of non-combatant deaths caused by those strikes.
https://www.rt.com/usa/453188-drone-strikes-civilians-trump/

Everything is related
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« Reply #1196 on: March 09, 2019, 10:46:23 AM »
Everything is related.

There always comes a time when it becomes literally impossible to kick that can down the road one more time. :)

A Chris Hedges quote on Privilege:
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We live in an age where we are going to stand with all of the oppressed or none of the oppressed. In the face of corporate tyranny we cannot pick which oppressed group is convenient to support and which is not because it is the language of oppression, it is the experience of the oppressed that will teach us how to resist and that will give us the honesty and the courage to fight back.

It is, and I learned this overseas as a white male, and an American, it is a curse to have privilege. This is the theme of King Lear. Because you are blind. Privileges blinds you. You cannot see. You cannot understand. You become self-deluded the more privileged you become. And that is the brilliance of Lear. Stripped of his power, thrown upon the heath, and then he can finally see.

And I'm well aware whether I'm in Gaza, or whether I'm in that prison, that my own privilege no matter how hard I try to understand makes me unable to see. And that is why we must connect our resistance movements to those who are suffering most within our society.

The decision by much of the liberal establishment too busy itself with the boutique activism of identity politics and multiculturalism and forget the primacy of justice. As poor black and brown people in this country were stripped of the ability to earn a living wage or even exist in dignity.

With drug laws we're omnipotent Police can kick down their door in the middle of the night for non-violent warrants, terrorizing everyone inside with long barrelled weapons and black uniforms and Kevlar vests.

Empire's die the same way always. They hollow themselves out from the inside.


https://youtu.be/30GusMbvj9k?t=2312
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« Reply #1197 on: March 10, 2019, 05:58:34 AM »
‘Nothing to do with NATO or F35’: US pressure over S-400 is about Turkey’s sovereignty
Published time: 10 Mar, 2019

 Washington is blackmailing Ankara because Turkey is becoming a key independent regional player, President Erdogan said, after US threats to block all advanced weapon supplies to its NATO ally if it buys the S-400 off Russia.

The US will not supply the 100 F-35 stealth jets that Turkey has already purchased, nor will it consider selling surface-to-air missile Patriot systems to its NATO ally if Turkey deploys the Russian S-400 air defense complexes, the Pentagon stipulated on Saturday. Replying to the latest American threats, Erdogan noted that Washington’s pressure was due to Turkey’s increasingly independent courses of action when it comes to national defense and regional affairs.

“Everyone knows that this issue has nothing to do with either NATO and the F-35 project nor the security of the US,” Recep Erdogan said Saturday. “The issue is not about S-400. It is because Turkey takes action of its own will regarding regional developments, particularly in Syria.”
https://www.rt.com/news/453438-erdogan-s400-turkey-sovereignty-nato/


US advises Italy to steer clear of China’s new Silk Road… because it’s a National Security issue?
Published time: 10 Mar, 2019

 A US National Security Council official has warned Italy against participating in China’s Belt and Road Initiative, which aims to unite European and Asian markets, claiming it adds ‘legitimacy’ to Beijing’s infrastructure project.

“Italy is a major global economy and great investment destination,” Garrett Marquis, a spokesman for the White House’s national security team, stated on Twitter, after Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said he would welcome Italy's participation in the BRI.

    "No need for Italian government to lend legitimacy to China’s infrastructure vanity project." the US National Security Council official said.

“With all the necessary precautions, Italy’s accession to a new silk route represents an opportunity for our country,” Conte said Friday, noting that participation in China’s trade master plan would be up for discussion when President Xi Jinping visits Italy on March 22. Conte also announced his plans to attend a BRI summit in China in April.

In what Beijing denounces as yet another example of unfair competition, the US has been accusing China’s biggest telecoms companies, Huawei Technologies Cos Ltd and ZTE Corp, of spying on behalf of the Chinese government, and has been ‘encouraging’ its allies to seek alternatives.

Conte, however, brushed aside US concerns over alleged Chinese security threats, stressing that he does not plan to discriminate against the Asian tech giants, who have expertise in developing the next generation 5G mobile networks. “Huawei and ZTE have been operating for years in Italy in an advantageous fashion,” he stressed.

https://www.rt.com/business/453441-us-italy-china-belt-road-project/
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« Reply #1198 on: March 11, 2019, 08:11:19 AM »

Chelsea Manning jailed for refusing to testify to grand jury in WikiLeaks case

    Judge Claude Hilton orders Manning to jail after brief hearing
    Manning says she objects to secrecy of grand jury process

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/08/chelsea-manning-judge-jails-wikileaks-case
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« Reply #1199 on: March 12, 2019, 04:02:03 AM »
"Has America Lost its Way? Leadership in Times of Crisis"- 21 Feb 2019

The dying Welfare State, the MIC-Media Complex aka the Warfare State, the National Security State and the Predatory Capitalism State - who's gonna win?



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