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Re: Empire - America and the future
« Reply #1150 on: December 20, 2018, 11:06:01 AM »
Where to post this? If this is correct maybe those american troops in Syria are going to be needed elsewhere. Hmmmm maybe here...


http://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news/world-news/3608-ukraine-attacking-donetsk-with-mortar-fire

I delayed reporting it to see where things went.  Things are getting worse.  The Ukraine military is now also attacking with Grenade launchers, armored vehicles and small arms fire.

According to numerous reports (Which I have NOT yet been able to confirm)  the Kiev Government is blasting homes and commercial buildings, which has already killed numerous civilians.  The attacks continue at this writing (6:02 PM EST Wednesday).

Donestsk and Luhansk are provinces (Oblasts) in Ukraine.  When the US and NATO funded and fomented the violent overthrow of the duly elected Ukrainian president, Victor Yanukovich, and installed a puppet regime favorable to NATO,  Donestsk and Luhansk "broke away" from Kiev, the capital of Ukraine.

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« Reply #1151 on: December 20, 2018, 01:08:33 PM »
Do you realize that Hal Turner "is an American white nationalist, Holocaust denier"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner
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« Reply #1152 on: December 20, 2018, 01:17:52 PM »
It should be possible to find better sources. If you can't, that means it's probably overblown.
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« Reply #1153 on: December 20, 2018, 03:17:23 PM »
wrong thread but in response;

Unian is a pro-Kiev site
Russian-led forces mounted seven attacks on Ukrainian troops in Donbas, eastern Ukraine, in the last 24 hours.
https://www.unian.info/war/10384233-ukraine-reports-seven-enemy-attacks-in-donbas-in-past-day.html
scroll down, some of the info comes via a Ukraine mil officer via facebook.

also the flip side says:
https://dan-news.info/en/defence-en/kiev-boosts-attack-force-on-northern-stretch-of-donbass-contact-line-intelligence.html

 the Donetsk People’s Republic Office at the Joint Centre for Control and Coordination (JCCC) said.
https://dan-news.info/en/society/ukrainian-forces-shell-northern-suburbs-of-donetsk-jccc.html

https://dan-news.info/en/defence-en/ukrainian-army-intensifies-fire-three-fold-over-24-hours-jccc.html

Situation normal?
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« Reply #1154 on: December 20, 2018, 08:51:56 PM »
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The unian sites are total BS, part of the "Ministry of Truth" set up in 2014 to "Combat Russian Propaganda". They won't admit that there is a civil war, so it's always  - The Russian Aggressors, The Russians Attacked or The Russians were Driven Back.

The UN reports are also slanted towards Ukraine, but far better than unian. They at least attempt to identify who is doing what to whom.

https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/multiplicity-rights-violations-ukraine-fifth-winter-conflict-bites

They note that out of more than 200 recent incidents, the government has been responsible for 147. They continue to consider that the Crimea is "occupied" by Russia.

It may take a few days to determine what, if anything is going on. RT and Sputnik are slanted, but their facts usually agree with reality.

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« Reply #1155 on: December 21, 2018, 03:27:24 AM »
Lurk

The unian sites are total BS, part of the "Ministry of Truth" set up in 2014 to "Combat Russian Propaganda". They won't admit that there is a civil war, so it's always  - The Russian Aggressors, The Russians Attacked or The Russians were Driven Back.

The UN reports are also slanted towards Ukraine, but far better than unian. They at least attempt to identify who is doing what to whom.

https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/multiplicity-rights-violations-ukraine-fifth-winter-conflict-bites

They note that out of more than 200 recent incidents, the government has been responsible for 147. They continue to consider that the Crimea is "occupied" by Russia.

It may take a few days to determine what, if anything is going on. RT and Sputnik are slanted, but their facts usually agree with reality.

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Yes. especially Unian .... obviously? Mmmm unfortunate what's obvious is not for so many, hey?

I was only attempting to show where the source ref'd by Red likely came from. It was from of those two as they seem to be the only one's with that kind of talk like that out there.

I do agree RT and Sputnik are slanted too, they take an 'editorial' view. Like every MSM outlet does. Choices are made as to which stories they run and which journalists will be hired or fired and who gets interviewed which of their comments makes it into the Headline. :)

Thanks for the ref, I checked OSCE but nothing there of any use. cheers
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« Reply #1156 on: December 21, 2018, 02:04:50 PM »
Yes, according to that UN report issues remain strained and of great concern in Ukraine, the self-declared republics of the east and in Crimea. No doubt many people suffer there in ways that don't make it into such reports. it would be good if the elections created an opportunity for a circuit breaker and towards resolution. 4 years is a very long time, longer than the time US was involved in WW2.
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« Reply #1157 on: December 21, 2018, 06:35:51 PM »
Not many posts on -

- Trump withdrawing US troops from Syria,
- Reports that half the US troops in Afghanistan to be withdrawn,
- Mattis resigning as Secretary of Defense and writing a strong criticism of Trump in his resignation letter,
- partial Government shutdown likely from midnight tonight.
- the ex-US Ambassador to the UN suggesting that the US may withdraw its membership of the UN. Nikki Haley has the ear of the President?

Nature abhors a vacuum. The law of unintended consequences applies.
As a non US citizen I am driven to the conclusion that Trump's "America First" policy means that other countries need to put "America Last" when considering their own interests.

One might think that this had some relevance to America and its future.
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« Reply #1158 on: December 21, 2018, 07:38:42 PM »
It's a start. Considering that the USA is everywhere:

"There are more than one thousand U.S. military bases dotting the globe. To be specific, the most accurate count is 1,077. Unless it’s 1,088. Or, if you count differently, 1,169. Or even one thousand one hundred and eighty. Actually, the number might even be higher. Nobody knows for sure."

https://www.guernicamag.com/empire_of_bases_20_does/

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175790/tomgram:_nick_turse,_special_ops_goes_global

http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/176182/tomgram:_nick_turse,_what_the_u.s._military_doesn't_know_(and_neither_do_you)/

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176048/tomgram:_nick_turse,_a_secret_war_in_135_countries/

Long way to go. Disengagement is one of the most difficult maneuvers.

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« Reply #1159 on: December 22, 2018, 06:19:38 AM »
Re: "As a non US citizen I am driven to the conclusion that Trump's "America First" policy means that other countries need to put "America Last" when considering their own interests."

As always. That's what Empires do. They betray their allies. As Palmerston said, no permanent allies or enemies, only permanent interests. In the last he was mistaken, in that the interests of nations change when their rulers do. But until then his aphorism holds true.

So, the Kurds are betrayed again. The Afghanis never trusted the foreign devils, and those who did have an unfortunate history of meeting lamposts up close and personal. Their neighbour, Pakistan, well recalls that the USA, in the words of a Pakistani general, "treated us like a condom and discarded us like a used one" in the 1980s. Other examples abound.

Coming now to the realization that the actions of the USA advance the interests of the USA, and that others best look to their own, is a little late in the day, don't you think ?

One nation that has never made that error is Israel. Their actions are instructive: if you wish the USA to act primarily for your country's interest, even opposed to its own, you must buy the politicians in the USA. Fortunately, they come very cheap, in terms of returns on investment.

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« Reply #1160 on: December 22, 2018, 01:35:57 PM »
This isn't news, it's war crime propaganda!


https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/this-isnt-news-this-is-war-crimes-apologia-8dd93d4058f4

Shrub Bush isn't a "beautiful, funny, kind, sweet man", he's a monster whose crimes would make his own father blush. (I considered Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Truman, but Daddy Bush seemed more appropriate) :(
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« Reply #1161 on: December 22, 2018, 01:42:29 PM »
Aah, Hitler and the Bush clan^^:

" How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

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« Reply #1162 on: December 22, 2018, 03:29:00 PM »
The UN General Assembly UN fails to support resolution on the INF.

   " These countries, especially the NATO members – contrary to their own statements about the importance of the INF Treaty – acted as its opponents."

The Friday’s vote shows how the US’ allies “de facto blessed” Washington for violating the INF deal, the foreign ministry stressed.

    A remarkable vote on #INFTreaty in #UNGA today. Western double standards clearly revealed - expressing worries but not supporting practical step in this regard. Only 1/4 of UN members support USA and NATO hypocricity on this issue https://t.co/31Uc4iyI64
    — Dmitry Polyanskiy (@Dpol_un) 21 декабря 2018 г.

Moscow’s envoy to the UN, Vasily Nebenzya told Rossiya 1 TV channel that prior to the vote his American counterpart, Nikki Haley, sent out a letter urging everyone to vote down the Russian draft.

As the US announced its willingness to ditch the landmark INF Treaty back in October, many European politicians defended the need to keep the existing agreement and hailed its role in nuclear disarmament. German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas called Washington’s decision “regrettable” as the treaty is “hugely important” to the European continent.

The Empire is in good order. Everyone who counts is following orders.

Meanwhile in the Persian Gulf:
The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS 'John C. Stennis,' belonging to the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, arrived in the Persian Gulf on Friday. It became the first American warship of its type to cross the Strait of Hormuz and sail in the waters off the Iranian coast since US President Donald Trump pulled the nation out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) on the Iranian nuclear program in May.

"We are trying to be more operationally unpredictable," said the fleet's spokesperson, Lieutenant Chloe Morgan, according to AP. Noting the months-long absence of a US carrier group in the region, she hinted that this might change. "Now we're switching it up because our adversaries are watching closely."

The US Navy keeping the world safe from those pesky Iranians and their horrid Oil. Aren't we so lucky?
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« Reply #1163 on: December 22, 2018, 09:45:36 PM »
No idea where to put this but at the same time it is an empire thing of some sort. It's my first exposure to such a thing and I don't mind saying it is a bit disturbing.
https://ceasefiremagazine.co.uk/israel-weaponised-tourism-strengthen-occupation/

Among the different forms of tourism peddled by the Israeli state, war tourism has seen a remarkable expansion in recent years, and today represents a key occupation-strengthening mechanism. According to Haaretz, “IDF-style training for tourists has become a full-fledged industry.”

War tourism in the occupied territories can be divided into two principal categories: Simulatory War Tourism, which trains tourists to shoot at Palestinians through war simulation exercises, and Participatory War Tourism, which aims to recruit non-Israeli, often non-Jewish, individuals directly into the IDF, usually for military holidays on a temporary basis but, in some cases, as an avenue for obtaining Israeli citizenship.

Simulatory War Tourism

The function of Simulatory War Tourism is to acclimatise tourists to the organised violence of the Israeli occupation, thus enlisting them into its contours of power. There are four main organisations specialising in this field: Caliber 3, Funtum, Zikit Extreme and Cherev Gidon.

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« Reply #1164 on: December 23, 2018, 08:40:51 PM »
Turkey masses troops near Kurdish-held Syrian town 
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wireStory/turkey-masses-troops-kurdish-held-syrian-town-59984033

Turkey is massing troops near a town in northern Syria held by a U.S.-backed and Kurdish-led force, a war monitor said as Turkish media reported Sunday new reinforcements crossing the borders.

The Turkish IHA news agency reported that a convoy of Turkish troops — a commando unit — had been sent into Syria overnight.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the reinforcements were sent to the front line with Manbij, where U.S. troops have been based. The Observatory said 50 vehicles crossed into Syria — carrying troops and equipment.

The spokesman for the Kurdish-led Manbij Military Council, Sharfan Darwish, said Turkish reinforcements have arrived in the area. "We are taking necessary measures to defend ourselves if we are attacked," he said without elaborating.
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« Reply #1165 on: December 24, 2018, 07:24:47 AM »
I couldn't find much confirmation of that "The Observatory said 50 vehicles crossed into Syria — carrying troops and equipment." via Turkey press, from 3 sites below and Twitter fwiw:

Nearly 300,000 Syrians have returned to their country after Turkish military operations in the region, Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu has said, as Turkey plans a new operation into Syria and has been sending reinforcements to its southeastern border.

“The number of Syrians who returned to their country after operations Euphrates Shield and Olive Branch is 291,790,” Soylu said at the International Coordination Meeting on Irregular Migration in the Thrace province of Edirne.

Turkey conducted two cross-border operations in Syria since 2016 to eliminate the presence of the YPG, which it sees as the Syrian branch of the PKK, and ISIL across Turkey’s border.

Speaking about Turkey’s geographical location as the main route for what he called illegal crossings of refugees who want to go to Europe, the minister said that in 2018 so far 251,794 undocumented migrants were apprehended during their attempts to cross borders via illegal routes.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/300-000-syrians-back-owing-to-turkish-ops-139953

Turkey has trained 5,397 Afghan police officers since 2001 when the first police training agreement was signed between the two countries, Ankara's diplomat in Kabul said on Dec. 21.

The 2001 treaty reached by the two counties' Interior Ministries had facilitated the training of officers in 95 different fields, İlker Türkbayrak, Turkey's Interior Ministry's undersecretary in Ankara's embassy in Kabul said.

Türkbayrak told Anadolu Agency that a new phase began in 2011 with bi-yearly courses at a police training center in Turkey's central Sivas province.

Noting that 1,335 female officers were trained, he said Turkey was proud to have played such a major role in the training of half of Afghanistan's female police personnel.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-trains-over-5-000-afghan-police-officers-139937


U.S. President Donald Trump said President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has "very strongly" informed him that Turkey will eradicate whatever is left of the Daesh terror group in Syria, in a tweet early Monday.

Trump also reiterated in his tweet that U.S. troops will withdraw from Syria. He said Turkey is "next door" to Syria, and said President Erdoğan "can do it."
https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2018/12/24/erdogan-told-trump-that-turkey-will-eradicate-daesh

The case for Turkey's military incursion into northeastern Syria
THE EDITORIAL BOARD

Turkey's imminent military operation against PKK/YPG militants across its southern border should serve multiple purposes.
Driving out the organization from the east of the Euphrates river is the best way to permanently address the problem of illegal immigration. Home to more refugees than any other country in the world, Turkey is a transit route for illegal immigrants trying to reach Europe. Many Syrian refugees remain in Turkey because their native lands are still occupied by PKK/YPG militants. Among them are tens of thousands of Syrian Kurds who cannot return to their homes because they see the PKK as a terrorist organization – as do Turkey, the United States and the European Union.
https://www.dailysabah.com/editorial/2018/12/22/the-case-for-turkeys-military-incursion-into-northeastern-syria

Turkey will continue to support Palestinian people, Erdoğan says
https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2018/12/22/turkey-will-continue-to-support-palestinian-people-erdogan-says

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan on Sunday responded to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's criticizing remarks toward himself and Turkey.
"Erdoğan is the voice of the oppressed, you [Netanyahu] are the voice of the persecutors. You are cruel!" he said at an opening ceremony in Istanbul.
"You are conducting state terror, your police detain women and children by kicking and dragging them," he added.
He went on to say: "Israel has no right to accuse anyone without accounting for its own sins, crimes against humanity, massacres and destruction."

On Sunday, Benjamin Netanyahu, on his Twitter account, attacked Turkish president over Turkey's counter-terror operation and Cyprus issues.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/world/turkey-is-the-voice-of-the-oppressed-erdogan-says-in-response-to-netanyahu-3469930

Kilis region is in the west not the east where the Kurds are btw
Military vehicles belonging to the Turkish Army on their way to Syrian border in the southern Kilis province of Turkey on December 22, 2018. The military vehicles are transferred to troops on the Syrian side of the border.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/video-gallery/news/turkey-deploys-military-vehicles-to-syria-border-2198777

Turkish forces discover seven-room PKK hideout in southeast
Haber Merkezi 14:24 December 23, 2018 Yeni Şafak
The Turkish Armed Forces discovered three Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) hideouts, one of which had seven rooms, in the country's Diyarbakır province.
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/video-gallery/news/turkish-forces-discover-7-room-pkk-hideout-in-southeast-2198785

Erdoğan sends Christmas greetings to Christian world
“In context of our civilization’s values, we, who take care to not discriminate people by their race, language, religion and sect, attach great importance to all citizens freely practicing their own culture, religion and traditions,” he stated.
“I wish the entire Christian world, primarily our Christian citizens, a happy Christmas.”
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/news/erdogan-sends-christmas-greetings-to-christian-world-3469917

As to Manjib, it is not in the eastern districts of Syria .. it is west of the Euphrates - Country Syria - Governorate   Aleppo - District Manbij. It has a HISTORY already with Turkey and the US.

November 23, 2018 / 6:38 PM / a month ago
Turkey says roadmap on Syria's Manbij needs to be completed by year-end
ISTANBUL (Reuters) - An agreement with the United States for the removal of a Kurdish militia from the northern Syrian town of Manbij needs to completed by the end of the year, Turkey said on Friday, voicing frustration with what it says is a deal beset by delays.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey/turkey-says-roadmap-on-syrias-manbij-needs-to-be-completed-by-year-end-idUSKCN1NS0LM

News     Turkey - November 01 2018 17:04:00
Joint Turkey-US patrols begin in Syria’s Manbij
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-army-starts-joint-patrols-with-us-in-syrias-manbij-138493

"Manjib News" on Twitter  https://twitter.com/hashtag/manbij?lang=en

Remember how Turkey supported ISIS in #Manbij. Kurds & Arabs together liberated Manbij from ISIS. Today, Manbij is a safe & peaceful city under the control of Manbij Military Counci (MMC), part of SDF. Erdogan's army wants to destroy the city & bring back its jihadists to Manbij
and

While the US is blocking (SYRIA -SAA)  regime forces south of #Manbij.
and

Who will be the first to take #Manbij? Brave #SAA that massing in the south or #Turkey from the north… The Kurds must make the right decision if they do not want to return to the Ottoman Empire!
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« Reply #1166 on: December 27, 2018, 01:42:53 AM »
Taibbi on Trump's withdrawal:

"The real line is between a war party, and everyone else."

"As to the argument that we’re abandoning Syria to Russians — anyone who is interested in reducing Russian power should be cheering. If there’s any country in the world that equals us in its ability to botch an occupation and get run out on a bloody rail after squandering piles of treasure, it’s Russia. They may even be better at it than us. We can ask the Afghans about that on our way out of there."

"The Afghan conflict became the longest military engagement in American history eight years ago."

"NATO persisted mainly as a PR mechanism for a) justifying continued obscene defense spending levels and b) giving a patina of internationalism to America’s essentially unilateral military adventures."

" ... we’ve successfully brainwashed big chunks of the population into thinking it’s normal for a country to exist in a state of permanent war, fighting in seven countries at once, spending half of all discretionary funding on defense.

It’s not. It’s insane. And we’ll never be a healthy society, or truly respected abroad, until we stop accepting it as normal."

Read the whole thing:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-syria-withdrawal-772177/

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« Reply #1167 on: December 27, 2018, 02:55:42 AM »
Taibbi on Trump's withdrawal:
. . .
It’s not. It’s insane. And we’ll never be a healthy society, or truly respected abroad, until we stop accepting it as normal."

Read the whole thing:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-syria-withdrawal-772177/

sidd

Thanks, sidd, it's a very good article.  Clear, coherent arguments, clear facts and references, well-written.  I agree with every word, *except* one paragraph:

"You’ll hear we’re abandoning allies and inviting massacres by the likes of Turkish dictator Recep Tayyip Erdogan. If there was any evidence that our presence there would do anything but screw up the situation even more, I might consider that a real argument. At any rate, there are other solutions beyond committing American lives. We could take in more refugees, kick Turkey out of NATO, impose sanctions, etc."

This is terribly vague, glib, and indefensible.  Our 2000 troops are what stand between the Kurds (and SDF) and an impending multi-pronged attack from all other sides active in Syria.  This is where the execution of the Trump's excellent goal (withdrawal from quagmires) is being conducted with criminal incompetence.  Remember that the Kurds did most of the fighting and dying in the fight against ISIS in Syria.  All they asked was the tools with which to do the fighting. 

Taibbi is correct that we might fix that problem by offering refugee status to our best ally there.  But that's incompatible with a quick withdrawal.  Besides, he knows damn well how Trump feels about refugees. 

The devil is in the details.  Details matter.  The details of exactly *how* we execute a withdrawal are as important as whether and when to withdraw. 

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« Reply #1168 on: December 27, 2018, 06:16:21 AM »
Re: detail as excuse for delay

That is exactly the argument that the generals have given presidents since time immemorial. I have zero faith that the USA, after decades of screwups in the Middle East can execute anything with grace and mercy. Including disengagement. But remaining is worse.

Consider this:

Everyone on the street in your warzones hates you. Every man's hand is against you. Your only supporters are cruel strongmen puppets and head choppers you or your proxies funded. And those hapeless people who trusted you. Like the Hmong, for example, in another war.

You can do nothing for the last. Your own polity will not allow you to resettle them en masse in the USA, which would be the best thing you could do.

Yes, people will die if you leave. But it is my strong conviction that more will die if you remain. You are generating more terrorists every minute you stay, and soon, if you continue, one of them will inflict worse grief on your home than Osama did. And as usual, you will react in even greater spasmodic fury. Hundred year war, anyone ?

People like Sjursen actually served and commanded men to their deaths for the greater glory of Empire. They will tell you.

Get the fuck out. Now.

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« Reply #1169 on: January 02, 2019, 08:27:36 AM »
Well. Well. Well. Xi comes out for Taiwan unification. Here is a Chinese government statement:

http://en.people.cn/n3/2019/0102/c90000-9533881.html

and our pal Al (jazeera)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/01/xi-change-fact-taiwan-part-china-190102030037389.html

Reunification has been a stance of PRC forawhile. But when they choose to voice that stance is significant. So i think either

a) Xi feels now confident enuf to in alliance with russia, africa, latin america, belt and road to voice that stance

and/or

b) Xi wants to stretch Empire into provocation over Taiwan and South China Sea into another unwinnable trillion dollar plus war . But why now ? Empire is in decline, China ascendant anyway. Why precipitate matters ? Does he see hidden weakness ?

On the whole, I think a). But if Empire can be drawn into unwinnable war, i do not think he would mind. Sorta like Osama, but with a much longer Chinese history to draw on.

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« Reply #1170 on: January 02, 2019, 11:36:33 AM »
Beijing has also been proclaiming the success of its own hypersonic missile program, stating it gives them the power to drive the United States out of the South China Sea by sinking its aircraft carriers.

The electromagnetic rail gun is another incarnation of the advantages of extreme speed.

"Railguns use electromagnetic energy to attack targets and are considered an advanced technology that offers greater range and more lethality, while the cost is even cheaper than traditional guns," the China Aerospace Science & Industry Corporation announced in 2015.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12184829

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« Reply #1171 on: January 03, 2019, 10:32:46 PM »
At wsws, a thoughtful look at ethnographies of Empire and the role of hidden control of ostensibly independent nations:

"The flags flying over the guard gate of the prison in Lukavica were those of Bosnia and the European Union, and the US was officially involved in the imprisonment of the men there only through diplomatic channels, generous funding and the assistance of American trainers and advisers. And yet the US empire was the thinly veiled power behind the very existence of the prison and all that happened there."

" the fates of people from specific countries were largely determined by the nature of US imperial relations with the countries involved. "

"President Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana wrote, "The essence of neo-colonialism is that the State which is subject to it is, in theory, independent and has all the outward trappings of international sovereignty. In reality its economic system and thus its political policy is directed from outside ... the worst form of imperialism. For those who practice it, it means power without responsibility, and for those who suffer from it, it means exploitation without redress." "

"Nkrumah was deposed in a military coup orchestrated by the CIA the year after his words were published ..."

Read the whole thing:

https://original.antiwar.com/Nicolas_Davies/2019/01/02/the-hidden-structure-of-us-empire/

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« Reply #1172 on: January 07, 2019, 02:13:05 AM »
Watch out Canada: might need a wall

"while only 11 percent and 10 percent wanted to leave the county under former presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, respectively, that number surged to 16 percent in 2018 under Trump."

" Most—26 percent, Gallup found—would head north to Canada."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/record-numbers-of-americans-want-to-leave-the-u-s-because-of-trump/

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« Reply #1173 on: January 07, 2019, 03:05:34 AM »
Watch out Canada: might need a wall

"while only 11 percent and 10 percent wanted to leave the county under former presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, respectively, that number surged to 16 percent in 2018 under Trump."

" Most—26 percent, Gallup found—would head north to Canada."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/record-numbers-of-americans-want-to-leave-the-u-s-because-of-trump/

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If 16% of the Never Trumpers escape to the north, Trump will be a shoo in for the next term. :(


Do these prospective immigrants know how to pick fruit?
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« Reply #1175 on: January 10, 2019, 06:59:34 AM »
 The Dark Overlord hacker group has released decryption keys for a second batch of 9/11 documents, totalling over 7,500 files. Additional document leaks containing “more secrets” and “more truth” have been promised, for a price.

The first batch of the supposed 18,000 documents was made available by the hackers at the weekend, along with a decryption key for ‘layer 1’ of the dump. The documents are believed to have been stolen from insurance companies, law firms and government agencies, and the hackers originally demanded an unspecified bitcoin ransom to keep them unreleased
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George Galloway was a member of the British Parliament for nearly 30 years. He presents TV and radio shows (including on RT). He is a film-maker, writer and a renowned orator.

Fall of Empires: London, Washington & Paris on brink of collapse

 Despite the thrashing around of the NATO disinformation apparat, the imperial heartland has entered 2019 in a state of complete chaos.

Washington, London, and Paris – the three capitals of the Empire – are today effectively ungoverned, shutdown, tottering on the brink of collapse or under siege by their own people.

Their self-chosen Nemeses – Moscow and Beijing – meanwhile toast the New Year in a state of considerable optimism and self-confidence. These are the facts, this is the news.
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The very conditions Macron strove so very hard to bring about in Damascus and that France DID help bring about in Kiev are now rocking the very foundations of the French Republic.
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This week, the EU (and NATO) government of Italy joined the side of the 'Gilets-Jaunes', with Italy's Salvini personally denouncing the French president as being "against his own people."

This Saturday, a mammoth demonstration will take place in London, leveling the same raft of anti-austerity demands on the British government as the Yellow Vests are making of Macron. The center cannot hold.

The old order is dying; the new one cannot be born. If we are not careful we will soon be alive in the time of monsters.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/448381-fall-empires-washington-london-paris/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

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What Trump’s Syrian Withdrawal Really Reveals
A wise decision is greeted by denunciations, obstructionism, imperial thinking, and more Russia-bashing.
By Stephen F. Cohen
January 9, 2019

Anti-Trumpism is creating political CULTS of US intelligence and military institutions. What does this tell us about today’s Democratic Party? More profoundly, what does this tell us about an American Republic purportedly based on civilian rule?


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    I am certain that, at some time in the future, President Xi and I, together with President Putin of Russia, will start talking about a meaningful halt to what has become a major and uncontrollable Arms Race. The U.S. spent 716 Billion Dollars this year. Crazy!
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 3, 2018

In this context, there is Trump’s remarkable, but little-noted or forgotten, tweet of December 3 calling on the presidents of Russia and China to join him in “talking about a meaningful halt to what has become a major and uncontrollable Arms Race.”

If Trump acts on this essential overture, as we must hope he will, will it too be traduced as “treacherous”—also for the first time in American history?

If so, it will again confirm my often-expressed thesis that powerful forces in America would prefer trying to impeach the president to avoiding a military catastrophe. And that those forces, not President Trump or Putin, are now the gravest threat to American national security.


Stephen F. Cohen, professor emeritus of politics and Russian studies at Princeton and NYU, and John Batchelor mark the fifth anniversary of their (usually) weekly discussions of the new US-Russian Cold War. (Previous installments are at TheNation.com.)
https://www.thenation.com/article/what-trumps-syrian-withdrawal-really-reveals/
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