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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #400 on: September 05, 2017, 01:41:20 PM »
She dawdled in  the main channel of the passage a few days ago (not sure if she went anywhere near the ice) before exiting the area. Current location in the Davis Stait thereabouts

http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/cruiseships.phtml

The view from the starboard camera shows a leaden sea and grey skies almost identical to the starboard view from the Crystal Symphony wherever she may be so if you want an "adventure" cruise in the Arctic getting onboard a Russian icebreaker would seem the best bet.

The Xue Long is soon to exit the Coronation Gulf.

http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/researchships.phtml

And keen eyed web browsers will note Irma is bearing down rapidly on several cruise ships. Now that would be an adventure holiday. :)
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #401 on: September 10, 2017, 02:14:32 PM »
a clear view on the 9th shows ice between Victoria strait and Bellot strait fairly spread out, possibly passable for non icebreakers taking a chance? Is there a equally recent chart from canadian ice service? I can't find one.
Ice drifting south towards other narrow part of the passage though, not sure what the name is.

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #402 on: September 11, 2017, 12:11:59 AM »
Is there a equally recent chart from canadian ice service?

There is indeed:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2017/07/the-northwest-passage-in-2017/#Sep-10

In addition, David Cowper has left Cambridge Bay in Polar Bound and is heading east.
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #403 on: September 26, 2017, 06:47:06 PM »
Seems the passage is closed again by new ice (40% new ice in that 'M' region, plus 30% old ice).

An ice-hardened ship would be able to get through still.

Today will be our first full day at/below freezing in Iqaluit.

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #404 on: September 26, 2017, 08:48:54 PM »
Seems the passage is closed again by new ice
The NE passage will be open for some time. The Russkies will be glad.
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #405 on: August 19, 2018, 02:57:45 PM »
Rather later than last year, "Snow White's" detailed analysis of the Northwest Passage prospects for the small yachts endeavouring to sail (or more likely motor) through the Northwest Passage this summer:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/

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The central section between Bellot Strait and Gjoa Haven and/or Cambridge Bay is still chock a block.

Cumming Inlet looks very inviting though:
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #406 on: August 20, 2018, 01:00:58 AM »
The CCGS Amundsen passed the entrance to Cumming Inlet recently. S/V Crystal has ventured out even more recently, but the Amundsen is long gone:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/#comment-245024
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #407 on: August 21, 2018, 04:30:44 AM »
A slightly bigger - 11,000 ton - vessel about to head through on a €€€ cruise (fully booked this year AND in 2019 AND in 2020 - sorry).   
As its about to start it will be interesting to see progress against schedule (bottom jpg file).

Webcam - may be on a loop we will have to see...  https://en.ponant.com/le-soleal-so-2

Source:
https://en.ponant.com/cruises/the-arctic-the-northwest-passage-s270818-kn0645-2

From website:


We are inviting you to set sail for the Far North, well beyond the Arctic Circle, to a legendary, highly coveted maritime route: the Northwest Passage, the only possible shipping route between the Atlantic and the Pacific.

In Winter, this “roof of the world” is transformed into a majestic white desert; whilst in Summer, for a few short weeks, the temperature rises enough for the ice to melt. Life reappears, nature is reborn, the mythical route is finally free and we can breathe in the unique scent of great adventure.

Subject to ice and weather conditions.

The expedition highlights and itineraries described above illustrate possible experiences only and cannot be guaranteed.

• Length . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 466 ft
• Beam . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 59 ft
• Draft . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15.3 ft
• Cruising speed . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14 knots
• Ice class . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 C
• Classification . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Bureau Veritas
• Flag . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . French
• Guest decks . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
• Guest capacity (double occupancy) . . . . . . . . . . . . up to 264 PAX
• Normal crew size . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140
• Fleet of expedition Zodiac® . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (Mark V HD)
• Gross tonnage . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10 992 UMS
• Electric motors . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 x 2300 KW
• Installed power . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 200 KW
• Construction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Fincantieri-Ancône-Italy
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #408 on: August 21, 2018, 04:23:04 PM »
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the Northwest Passage, the only possible shipping route between the Atlantic and the Pacific.

Like the Russian Northern Sea Route does not exist? Alternative facts rule, OK?
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #409 on: August 25, 2018, 11:42:40 AM »
The crew of Crystal have avoided being eaten by polar bears and contrary to the advice of the Canadian Coastguard are currently heading for Fort Ross:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/#comment-245285

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #410 on: August 25, 2018, 03:54:28 PM »
Akademik Ioffe is aground and taking on water with ~160 people aboard:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/#comment-245290

Apparently there is no immediate danger to life, limb or environment though.
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #411 on: August 27, 2018, 07:49:48 PM »
Barely out of the harbor and ran aground on a rock on the first day!

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #412 on: August 28, 2018, 12:24:26 PM »
Akademik Ioffe is a purpose built icebreaker and used for hydro-sonic studies of the Arctic.
Hydro-sonics is used to count fish and of course would give extremely accurate depth readings.
Ironic that a vessel outfitted like this would run aground! When I look at the published coordinates on google Earth I can clearly see the shoals beneath the surface where it went aground.

Their original route was through the Bellot Strait but for some reason the Ioffe chose not to enter the Strait. Was this decision based on the ice condition on the back side of the Bellot?


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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #413 on: August 28, 2018, 06:11:40 PM »
Akademik Ioffe is a purpose built icebreaker and used for hydro-sonic studies of the Arctic.
Hydro-sonics is used to count fish and of course would give extremely accurate depth readings.
Ironic that a vessel outfitted like this would run aground! When I look at the published coordinates on google Earth I can clearly see the shoals beneath the surface where it went aground.

Their original route was through the Bellot Strait but for some reason the Ioffe chose not to enter the Strait. Was this decision based on the ice condition on the back side of the Bellot?

Their original schedule was to leave from Resolute but instead left from Kugaaruk probably because ice in the approach to Resolute.  I think in both cases the intention was to sail via Bellot to Cambridge bay.

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #414 on: August 30, 2018, 07:50:49 PM »
Some insider information reveals that the Louis S. Saint Laurent will escort some ships through the Bellot Strait in the not too distant future:


http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/#comment-245751
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #415 on: August 31, 2018, 10:55:21 AM »
The yacht Anahita has sunk in the Bellot Strait:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/#comment-245858

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JRCC Trenton deployed a Hercules aircraft and the icebreaker CCGS Henry Larsen to the scene.

No injuries to the passengers have been reported, and they are in excellent condition.
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #416 on: August 31, 2018, 04:36:29 PM »
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Images from the French sailing over the pole.
« Reply #417 on: September 01, 2018, 08:36:59 AM »
Not strictly the Northwest Passage but the French Catamaran / Ice Yacht who planned to sail / drag their boat / sledge over the pole are now on da 73 heading back to Sachs Harbour on Banks Island after taking too long to get over the pole before winter. Some great photos of condtions on the ice.

A very tough and well prepared group, but condtions were against them this year.

http://www.sebroubinet.eu/la-voie-du-pole_nouvelles.html


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Re: Images from the French sailing over the pole.
« Reply #418 on: September 01, 2018, 01:10:30 PM »
The French Catamaran / Ice Yacht who planned to sail / drag their boat / sledge over the pole

N.B. See also: https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,435.0.html
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #419 on: September 01, 2018, 03:12:20 PM »
The yacht Anahita has sunk in the Bellot Strait:
While looking for something else I came upon this  (I wonder if there are some plonkers floating around up there):

https://www.mardep.gov.hk/en/msnote/pdf/msin1276anx1.pdf
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INTERNATIONAL MARITIME ORGANIZATION
4 ALBERT EMBANKMENT
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Telephone: 020 7735 7611 Fax: 020 7587 3210 Telex: 23588 IMOLDN G
Ref. T1/3.02
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23 December 2002
GUIDELINES FOR SHIPS OPERATING IN ARCTIC ICE-COVERED WATERS
1 The Maritime Safety Committee, at its seventy-sixth session (2 to 13 December 2002), and
the Marine Environment Protection Committee, at its forty-eighth session (7 to 11 October 2002),
recognizing the need for recommendatory provisions applicable to ships operating in Arctic
ice-covered waters, additional to the mandatory and recommendatory provisions contained in
existing IMO instruments, approved Guidelines for ships operating in Arctic ice-covered waters, as
set out in the annex.
2 Member Governments are invited to bring the annexed Guidelines to the attention of
shipowners, ship designers, shipbuilders, ship repairers, equipment manufactures and installers and all other parties concerned with the operation of ships in Arctic ice-covered waters.

G-2.2 No pollutants should be carried directly against the shell in areas at significant risk of ice
impact. Operational pollution of the environment should be minimized by equipment selection and
operational practice.
G-2.3 Key safety-related, survival and pollution control equipment should be rated for the
temperatures and other conditions which may be encountered in the service intended.
G-2.4 Navigation and communications equipment should be suitable to provide adequate
performance in high latitudes, areas with limited infrastructure and unique information transfer
requirements.
G-2.5    Sea suction(s) should be capable of being cleared of accumulation of slush ice.

G-3.2 —Arctic ice-covered waters“ - solely for the purposes of these Guidelines, means those waters which are both:
.1 located north of a line from the southern tip of Greenland and thence by the southern
shore of Greenland to Kape Hoppe and thence by a r
thumb line to latitude 67º03‘9 N,
longitude 026º33‘4 W and thence by a rhumb line to Sørkapp, Jan Mayen and by the
southern shore of Jan Mayen to the Island of Bjørnøya, and thence by a great circle
line from the Island of Bjørnøya to Cap Kanin Nos and thence by the northern shore
of the Asian Continent eastward to the Bering Strait and thence from the Bering
Strait westward to latitude 60º North as far as Il‘pyrskiy and following the 60th North
parallel eastward as far as and including Etolin Strait and thence by the northern
shore of the North American continent as far south as latitude 60º North and thence
eastward to the southern tip of Greenland (see figure 1); and
.2 in which sea ice concentrations of 1/10 coverage or greater are present and which
pose a structural risk to ships.

POLAR CLASS GENERAL DESCRIPTION
PC 1 Year-round operation in all Arctic ice-covered waters
PC 2 Year-round operation in moderate multi-year ice conditions
PC 3 Year-round operation in second-year ice which may include multi-year ice inclusions
PC 4 Year-round operation in thick first-year ice which may include old ice inclusions
PC 5Year-round operation in medium first-year ice which may include old ice inclusions
PC 6Summer/autumn operation in medium first-year ice which may include old ice inclusions
PC 7Summer/autumn operation in thin first-year ice with which may include old ice  inclusions

And then followed by exhaustive lists of requirements concerning the ship and the crew.
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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #420 on: September 04, 2018, 11:30:40 AM »
News today from the Northwest Passage blog that S/V CRYSTAL has given up after hanging around Fort Ross hoping for a storm or melting to break the ice barrier blocking their way west.

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #421 on: September 04, 2018, 03:28:18 PM »
News today from the Northwest Passage blog that S/V CRYSTAL has given up.

Stale news!

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/#comment-246255

What was your source?

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #422 on: September 08, 2018, 04:04:37 PM »
Thanks to a heads up from snrjon there comes news that S/V Thor has made it through the worst that the Northwest Passage has had to offer this summer:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/#Sep-07

Now Thor's only got the Beaufort Sea to contend with:

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #423 on: September 08, 2018, 08:33:20 PM »
Thanks to a heads up from snrjon there comes news that S/V Thor has made it through the worst that the Northwest Passage has had to offer this summer:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2018/08/the-northwest-passage-in-2018/#Sep-07

Now Thor's only got the Beaufort Sea to contend with:

Thor's currently closing in on the eastmost section of region I at about 6 knots.

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #424 on: September 11, 2018, 05:06:27 PM »
Thor's passed Prudhoe Bay at a good clip (6.7 knots)

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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #425 on: March 25, 2019, 10:20:10 AM »
Since the remelt season has begun I thought I would resurrect this idle thread last posted 9/11 last year:

Recently I found a buried treasure in the Internet Archives:

Roald Amundsen's "The North West passage" : being the record of a voyage of exploration of the ship "Gjöa" 1903-1907 by Amundsen, Roald, 1872-1928; Hansen, Godfred, 1876-1937 Publication date 1908

Volume 1 link:
https://archive.org/details/roaldamundsensth01amun/page/n10
Volume 2 link:
https://archive.org/details/roaldamundsensth02amun/page/n10

This is a multi-faceted book that will surely delight anyone who is interested in the history of the NW passage. Amundsen had a dual purpose mission:
1-Be the first to transit the NW Passage
2-Setup an observatory to locate the Magnetic North Pole

He was extremely lucky in both regards as he was able to sail via Davis Strait, Lancaster Sound, Bering Strait, Peel Inlet, Rae Strait to what he christened "Gjoa Haven" on the SW coast of King William Island relatively unimpeded while sailing right past the 1903 position of the MNP on the Boothia Peninsula.

He and his small crew wintered on KWI for several winters to complete observations of the MNP during which time he befriended the local Inuits, who taught him many things that would be crucial for his success during his South Pole expedition. Amundsen was an uncanny observer and his detailed descriptions of the paleolithic way of life of the Inuits of KWI is worth the read in itself. The brilliance of their arctic survival skills passed down by word-of-mouth for hundreds of years is fascinating.

He also found artifacts from the Franklin Expedition tragedy which had unfolded on KWI some 60 years before and also heard reliable reports on what had transpired from the Inuit point of view.

His exit out of the CAA via Simpson Strait, Coronation Gulf, Amundsen Gulf, Beaufort Sea, Chukchi Sea and the Bering Strait was more problematic than his entry voyage in terms of sea ice and entailed some harrowing experiences in the diminutive "Gjoa".

This chronicle of the Amundsen's expedition in a converted herring fishing boat with a skeleton crew also contains amazing photos, that coupled with Amundsen's first-hand account, make for a captivating read as he succeeded in a venture that had stymied the great wealth and power of England's maritime genius for hundreds of years.

All in all, this book will provide many hours of enjoyment whilst sitting in the rocking chair waiting for the sea ice to melt  8)

 







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Re: Northwest Passage thread
« Reply #426 on: March 25, 2019, 12:43:30 PM »
Recently I found a buried treasure in the Internet Archives:

Thanks for the heads up.

See also more NWP history, including some musical accompaniment!

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2016/04/the-northwest-passage-in-2016/
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