I apologize for taking a substantial time to respond. Despite a very comprehensive system how I keep my science library, it has over 40,000 items and even with my best efforts tracing records takes time and sometimes things simply can also get lost. However, I am now fortunately in a position to answer to you with some considerable. It is also to my understanding the position accepted by the museum of the said nation and presented there as a fact by the said nation.
First of all, I am pulling things out of my memory and there is always a possibility that inaccuracies can arise over time, but for the most part, I think my mental image was not too departed when I put forward the idea of Clovis people associating Jokullhaups from the Foxe Laurentide Ice dome, or the Laurentide Ice Sheet glacial lakes with 'bearver trickster' imaginary creatures under its ice.
Secondly, I labelled it as the Clovis period for the reason that it is the earliest culture that is widely recognized and geospatially covering the territories involved and generally understood as the source population of the later Native American Indians. The association to the collapse of the Lake Agassiz described associates the people of the period to the Clovis which is not the way the people contemporarily called of themselves. Thus Lage Agassiz time stamp associates it to Clovis.
Thirdly, the association of the event in question, the beaver-trickster (phenomenon) unleashing the collapse of Lake Agassiz took in a place from where these tribe had resided, Mackinac Island. The habitation of the area is through the Archaic Period hunter-gatherers of Clovis culture who "tended to settle along rivers and lakes in both coastal and interior regions for maximum access to food resources." Fiedel, Stuart J. (1992). "Prehistory of the Americas, 2nd Edition." Cambridge Univeristy Press. Then the Woodland Period follows these Archaic hunter-gatherers (but preceded the agriculturalist Mississippian cultures). The Middle Woodland period cultures of Hopewellian traditions covers St. Lawrence and Missisippian basins. The late Woodland Indians became known as the Menominee (who were forcibly moved from Mackinac Island by the US settlers who are the people with the recollection about the sudden collapse of Lake Agassiz and it becoming the present-day Lake Michigan and other lesser lakes:
"In Menominee mythology, Manabus, the trickster, "fired by his lust for revenge" shot two underground gods when the gods were at play. When they all dived into the water, a huge flood arose. "The water rose up .... It knew very well where Manabus had gone." He runs, he runs; but the water, coming [to McKenzie Island] from Lake Michigan, chases him faster and faster, even as he runs up a mountain and climbs to the top of the lofty pine at its peak. Four times he begs the tree to grow just a little more, and four times it obliges until it can grow no more. But the water keeps climbing "up, up, right to his chin, and there it stopped": there was nothing but water stretching out to the horizon. And then Manabus, helped by diving animals, and especially the bravest of all, the Muskrat [beaver], creates the world [the Great Lakes area] as we know it today."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mackinac_Island_topographic_map-en.svg"Ancient Waterfall Discovered Off Mackinac Island's Shoreline
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An ancient 100-foot waterfall off the shore of Mackinac Island was discovered underwater last week by the crew aboard the training and research vessel The Pride of Michigan. They came across the 10,000-year-old waterfall while taking soundings in the area. The waterfall is part of an ancient and now-submerged river, called the Mackinac Channel, that flowed through the Straits before the existence of Lake Michigan and Lake Huron. "It is not as large as Niagara," said Captain Luke Clyburn, "but it is a very, very significant waterfall." Now lying 110 feet beneath the surface of Lake Huron, just off the east shore of Mackinac Island, the site shows that water flowed from west to east along the channel before plunging nearly 100 feet from a limestone cliff. Soundings recorded Thursday, August 16, revealed the cliff and sharp drop in the riverbed.
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"This is a major find for this area," said Captain Clyburn. "To be able to come in and say, 'Here was a waterfall,' it kind of brings a name to this whole river channel." From research in the area two years ago, Captain Clyburn speculated that a rapids or a waterfall might exist. While testing new sounding equipment Thursday, his suspicions of a waterfall were confirmed based on readings from the site. "We'll be back up doing more work in this area," he said, "now that we've pinpointed the waterfall." In conjunction with training for U.S. Naval Sea Cadets, the ship conducts underwater research and is on a mission to learn about and find areas inhabited by cultures 10,000 years ago.
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The discovery of the waterfall on the former 80-mile-long river, said Captain Clyburn, increases the probability that people lived nearby, and it increases the chances of finding evidence of them on future dives. The existence of the ancient river channel was found on soundings taken in the 1930s and later confirmed when spruce stumps discovered about 120 feet beneath the surface of the Straits were carbon-dated to 10,000 years ago. "
http://www.mackinacislandnews.com/news/2007-08-25/Front_page/003.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackinac_Island#cite_note-Waterfall-29http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/1fff893f54ba4e7d9165f8de953cba78/MI--Mackinac-Island-Remains/http://www.9and10news.com/Category/Story/?id=309192&cID=1I am calling this here as "beaver force" after the Clovis period North Americans who believed that there were beavers underneath the Foxe-Laurentide Ice Dome that lifted it up to cause sudden, unpredictable (Jokullhaup) floods.
VeilAlbertKallio,
I have not heard of any oral tradition history from the Clovis people, do you mean another tribe or group of peoples in the early americas? do you have a source for this information?