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« on: December 24, 2020, 03:46:15 AM »
It appears that some people think Australia is in permanent lockdown with a Govt keeping us under firm control.
Truth is this.... for 4 months one city was in lockdown for about four months. It was not fun, people complained, but we did what was needed. It worked. Melbourne has had zero community transmissions for 55 days in a row and 1 case that came into Melbourne from the cluster in Sydney because the person drove here a few days ago.
The only restrictions we have now are wearing a mask while doing things like supermarket shopping. For the most part, our economy is almost fully open and recovering.
Sydney has targeted lockdowns because of its cluster. It is hard and fast, it will almost certainly work, and within the coming week or two, Sydney will be mostly fully open as well.
This is hardly a dictator state or country, in fact, we are almost back to normal and nobody is dying from Covid and the cases are very, very low.
Not bad for 4 months of misery.
Compared to places likes the US, where Trump bloody mindedly did everything he could to let it rip through, with thousands of deaths per day, an economy that is struggling, job loses, hunger increasing, people living in unstable housing due to rent non payment and a hospital system that is all but collapsed and getting worse, I pick the four months of lockdown every single time.
For the people who think Covid isnt much of a thing, a common cold, or no worse than the flu, if any of those people can provide any evidence of any kind that shows them doing what Covid is doing right now, please present the evidence for us to see. Any information at all will do.
Shit, give any information from the US only... find the worst flu season in the last 100 years and compare it to what is happening in the US right now.
You can even present finding from the 1914 flu if you want as that is the closest you will probably come to Covid.
Melbourne fought hard to remove the virus. Lockdowns are needed, so are masks, testing, tracing and strong political leadership. But it was temporary and no longer in place.
And here is the funny thing, the people in Melbourne are prepared to do it all again should it be required. Most people are aware that when our winter comes around next year we may well have to do it again, and that is okay with most people here because the results show that it is worth it.
I just wanted that to be clearly stated.
I would like to see evidence of a worse disease than Covid to see what pops up.... something that has gone global and has done what Coivd is doing.
MERS and SARS might appear as counters to this, but given MERS and SARS were relatively easy to beat, and isn't global, it isn't really a fair comparison. Ebola isn't either. All three of those diseases could have gotten a lot worse and still been brought into containment as they are today because they only spread with symptoms.
So, please, present the findings of how the flu has done what Covid has done to health care systems globally, show the real number deaths, the real organ damages, lets compare them properly.
If it can be shown that Covid is, in fact, no worse than the flu, then I will change my mind. Until then, if you think Covid is no worse than the flu, either front up with researched evidence or stop saying it.
Rant over.