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Policy and solutions / Re: The 2021 G7 Summit in Cornwall
« on: Today at 11:54:37 AM »
  Lord Lawson and his cronies bought Boris when they bankrolled his election as CON-servative leader . b.c.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: April 15, 2021, 03:19:08 AM »
   A little reminder of the value of this thread , all it's contributors and all the 11,767 posts that precede this one
For example the  post below is from Vox mundi last January and is the sort of thing a Conservative minister would not like to hear in any future enquiry .. their remembered timetable re knowledge of asymptomatic spread is quite different ...
 .. Fifth US Case of Coronavirus Confirmed as China Warns People Can Spread the Virus Before They Feel Ill

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2021 melting season
« on: April 14, 2021, 05:45:23 PM »
I don't think I've ever seen this before .. a clear view of ice on the move , from 30'W to 90'E it's export all the way . Worldview ..

 .. click back and forth between the last few days to see just how bad the recent weather pattern has been for the high Arctic . Probably as bad as it can get this time of year .  b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2021 melting season
« on: April 13, 2021, 12:22:30 AM »
Large crack crosses N. pole ..

    (Worldview) b.c.


Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: April 12, 2021, 11:59:42 PM »
 .. so far the ascent has been the most orderly in years .. click on :  . b.c.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: April 11, 2021, 01:46:56 PM »
hi Oren , I thought you and Kassy arranged that the first 10 posts of all newbies be moderated so that such occurrences couldn't happen ? b.c.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: April 09, 2021, 12:28:48 PM »
meanwhile the USA'a stockpile of unused and unwanted AZ vaccine has passed 20,000,000 doses . Surely they could be delivered somewhere in the world where they are both needed and wanted ?

The politics / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: April 09, 2021, 12:25:51 PM »
  are 'people gravitating to like minded groups ' or forced there by logarithms  (or is that algorithms lol ) ? b.c.

Elon looking forward to the day of a workforce of monkeys paid in bananas with a trillionaire boss ?

Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: April 09, 2021, 12:40:45 AM »
no commentary on it yet , but every forecast for days has been predicting a Northerly storm over the Greenland sea .. many forecasts have had a 100hpa differential across the region . with temps set to plunge , I am preparing for the icy blast here in N.I. b.c.

   Exciting times since ,, including some beautiful dry snow here and tomorrow a return of the chill, some snow maybe  and -5'C  to follow , not ideal in April . no plums etc ...
   ... while in the Greenland Sea a lot of ice has moved 100-120 km  S in the last 7 days . The land fast ice is being scoured off the coast , i wouldn't be surprised if there were to be a build up of sea ice on the N. shore of Iceland . The nearest strand is only 50km away today .
   Thankfully the forecast is a little less threatening to the Atlantic front tonight in the mid-range at least ..  b.c,

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2021 melting season
« on: April 08, 2021, 12:57:08 PM »
Zack Labe
5 Apr
#Arctic air temperature rank by month over the satellite era - now updated through March 2021, which again was an unusually cold month (especially around the Kara Sea)

+ Ranks: 1=warmest (red), 42/43=coldest (blue)
+ Download visual:

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: What's new in Greenland?
« on: April 08, 2021, 04:55:57 AM »
    talking @ Greenland , it seems very unusual to have depressions passing W - E across the north of Greenland , then deepening in the N. Atlantic . There are 2 forecast in the days ahead .
   Or is it normal ? b.c.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: April 07, 2021, 11:27:46 AM »
well said , Archimid .. it is absurd that we were better informed here 14 months ago than almost anyone in power anywhere in the world months later . This thread should be available to anyone prosecuting those powers for incompetence , manslaughter or mass murder for it's accurate time line of available information that could have been acted upon . Many thanks to you and your fellow compilers of truth in the face of fools , liars and deniers .
                                         be cause . 

Arctic sea ice / Re: Arctic Image of the Day
« on: April 07, 2021, 01:08:56 AM »
Today the Atlantic ice front is beautiful , from the southern tip of Greenland to Kara . It looks like carnival time .. :)
  Here is a bit of the east coast of G'land on Worldview . Click link .. then zoom and play , though Wv does eat bytes ..


 the colour scheme is interesting but works !   b.c.

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: April 06, 2021, 10:08:29 PM »
Indeed Espen , all the way to Beaufort there is a significant crack , mostly @ 10km wide and up to 20km in places . It has opened largely in the last 4 days . Worldview has a great view of the whole today ... - click the link ..

Beaufort has it's own ongoing crackopalypse .. b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2021 melting season
« on: April 05, 2021, 10:18:43 PM »
The next week's animation should be interesting . The low complex N. of Norway seems destined to slowly move to the central Arctic , while high pressure is maintained over G'land and north Canada . This should increase the crackopalypse already apparent from Fram to beyond the pole as the winds remain strong across the region . 
   Fram export has been low all winter as Wip's graph on the piomass thread today shows . This is changing fast .. a block of ice I've been following between 84 and 85 north has moved 45 km toward fram in the last 48 hours . In 10 days it and a lot more besides could already be in the Greenland sea on the way to early oblivion .
  Freegrass wondered if the event (being followed in the chatter thread) would have much effect . The enormous export of ice is being replaced by open water and thin new ice , while the cold air headed south is being replaced by warmth via Kara and N.E. Canada . Not wot the doctor ordered .. b.c.

Field Study Sheds New Light on Melt Zone
With data from a rare expedition to Greenland,

Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: April 05, 2021, 09:53:27 PM »
On meteociel pressures > 1070 do not appear , same with temps below -40'C and anomalies greater than 24'C .. a major handicap on occasions like yesterday . Tropical Titbits shows far too many isobars .. I would rather see 4 or 5 mb spacing than 2 .. just b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: April 05, 2021, 04:38:30 PM »
Grixm , March 30th :
 'The pressure is nowhere as high on the euro forecast. Maybe this is a bug with the recently updated GFS?'

  ..or maybe it was a demonstration of how good the model is .. GFS seems to have been remarkably accurate and early in it's forecast . I have enjoyed following the weather and this thread .. thanx folks .

  here today started with snow .. beautifully dry fresh stars , followed by a brief blizzard and further showers of snow . the -10'C uppers and cold air should combine tonight to leave a covering by morning . This too was forecast over a week ago . b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: April 04, 2021, 11:22:02 AM »
 .. along with the ridiculously high pressure , the G'land plateau has 2m temps below -40'C and 850hpa temp anomalies > 24'C over a huge area . I've never seen a present/forecast like it ... these temps seem the lowest I've seen over G'land in the last 10 years .
  And downwind it looks like the worst by-passes N.I. with snow making it to Greece and Turkey .

Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: April 03, 2021, 11:59:44 AM »
whatever the pressure , the gradient remains impressive across Fram and the Greenland sea for the next 7+ days . Not really the start wanted for the season . b.c.

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: April 01, 2021, 11:30:09 AM »
What did Interstitial say ?

 He said 'Freegrass 'unfairly makes this forum a hostile place ' .. that is all that need be acted upon .

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: April 01, 2021, 11:26:04 AM »
Freegrass and his drunken outbursts (and his sober ones) are what has no place here . His assaults on religion are not as big a problem as his personal attacks on fellow posters and mods (excepting Oren) . It seems that protecting posters like FG is the real problem . As you well know Oren , I have protested his continued presence every time he launches another attack , but its rinse and repeat .. and further protect .
  It has been made clear to me that a number of the departed left 'cause Freegrass remains .
My observation on micromanagement did not relate to Blumenkraft .

 If this forum is determined to protect the Freegrasses and not the Nannings and Blumenkrafts then moderation is pointless . Are HHI and the Walrus really a greater threat to it's stability than FG ?


The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: April 01, 2021, 03:13:58 AM »
''I am a spiritual being having a human experience rather than a human being having a spiritual experience.''
  ^^^ I wholeheartedly agree .

Kassy :
''how many posts would it take for a punk to convince a rapper person to change his or her mind? And what mess might ensue in the meantime. And feelings carry over so you will get snipes relating the discussion mentioned in the other fora.

It does not solve anything, it makes nobody happier and no one learns from it because you already have a different fundamental outlook.''

    .. there is no need for anyone , including Oren or yourself to read any posts or discussions in this sector . TBH it was the micromanagement of posts that persuaded me to accept responsibility for the off-topic sector when Blumenkraft departed . Prior to that I had volunteered only to moderate HIM ! :) (A role I was enjoying .. ) .
I would rather , as I've suggested before , see this entire sector taken out of the 'recent posts' listings so that anyone not looking for the sector is not made aware so readily that interesting and lively debate can be had beyond the cryosphere etc .. so people have to come look for it rather than 'it' be waved in their faces .. ?  Neven's refuge of sanity here was never maintained by more than a light touch .. and even if he had no time for 'God' , I do , and have confessed it on various threads here since 2013 .. b.c. :)

 p.s. ''god is Schrodinger's goalposts '' .. '' No Ball Games '' !

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: March 31, 2021, 04:37:25 PM »
 I await Neven's response on the subject .  God's existence has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt in my own life after 40 years of happy atheism . b.c.

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: March 31, 2021, 04:09:55 PM »
Freegrrass , I see you attacking mods again .. when you claim one is working against you , you usually mean me . But the sad truth is I don't give a FUCK about what you get up to here so long as you do not attack people . I know nothing of your social media presence , and am certainly not wasting my time talking @ you .. until now . I have not (until today ) read any of your posts outside of the sea ice section in some time . You are welcome to talk all day here @ religion .. Oren is not in charge in this section , and unless Neven barks ... b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: March 29, 2021, 08:02:45 PM »
no commentary on it yet , but every forecast for days has been predicting a Northerly storm over the Greenland sea .. many forecasts have had a 100hpa differential across the region . with temps set to plunge , I am preparing for the icy blast here in N.I. b.c.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: March 25, 2021, 11:01:10 AM »
 ... or maybe less obese people are smarter ? Having seen the success of community health action in india and S of the Sahara , building on what they learned in previous pan/epidemics . Kerala in S. India for example has a well recorded death rate 1/15th that of the UK (and no major lockdowns)  . They did not have to start with 'stupid' in charge as we did here in the UK and USA . New variants and vaccine queue jumping may soon change things , but so far the 3rd world is showing the 1st world the way .. b.c.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: March 24, 2021, 06:57:14 PM »
Indeed .. I am delighted that today my mum got her 2nd AZ jab and I accepted the offer of my 1st as there were 3 spare at the end of what seems to have been a very busy day at the local clinic .. dare I tell the world on Facepuke ? I think not .. b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: HYCOM
« on: March 16, 2021, 08:28:41 PM »
Thanks , Uniquorn , great visuals revealing a much changed Arctic . It looks like this year there could be serious threat to the minimum ice volume record , while area and extent records may stand . b.c. .   

   ps  I'm happy for it to stay but could you stop the autoload so that revisits to the thread are possible .. as it is I would love to follow the mosaic thread but cannot as so many vids and gifs autoplay .. and I'd much rather be seeing them than not .

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2021 melting season
« on: March 15, 2021, 08:18:15 PM »
It has been changing with every forecast .. a few days ago the forecast storm was much worse .. forecast central pressure in the low 950's ; forecast now low 970's and further sorth .. b.c.

Consequences / Re: Places becoming less livable
« on: March 15, 2021, 08:05:47 PM »
from the Guardian ..

Air pollution
Beijing skies turn orange as sandstorm and pollution send readings off the scale
Capital of China suffers ‘hazardous’ levels of air pollution with authorities issuing second-highest safety alert

A woman walks along a pedestrian bridge during Beijing’s morning rush hour. Air pollution in China’s capital soared off the charts on Monday.
Sandstorm and pollution turn Beijing sky orange – video
Helen Davidson in Taipei, and agencies
Mon 15 Mar 2021 04.51 GMT

A massive sandstorm has combined with already high air pollution to turn the skies in Beijing an eerie orange, and send some air quality measurements off the charts.

Air quality indexes recorded a “hazardous” 999 rating on Monday as commuters travelled to work through the thick, dark air across China’s capital and further west.

Chinese meteorological authorities issued its second highest alert level shortly before 7.30am, staying in place until midday. A broader warning for sand and dust blowing in from the western desert regions was put in effect until Tuesday morning.

When Beijing’s realtime air quality index (AQI) showed a reading of 999, Tokyo recorded 42, Sydney 17 and New York 26. Hong Kong and Taiwan recorded “moderate” readings of 66 and 87, respectively.

Levels of PM2.5, the small air pollution particles that infiltrate the lungs, were recorded above 600 micrograms in many parts of the city, reaching a 24-hour average of 200 before midday. The World Health Organization recommends average daily concentrations of just 25.

The sandstorm blown in from the desert stretching into Inner Mongolia saw concentrations of the larger PM10 particles surpass 8,000 micrograms according to state media.

Visitors pose for a shot with the Forbidden City at Jingshan Park in the background.
Visitors pose for a shot with the Forbidden City at Jingshan Park in the background. Photograph: Tingshu Wang/Reuters
State media reported at least 341 people were reported missing in neighbouring Mongolia, which was also hit by sandstorms, and flights were grounded out of Hohhot in inner Mongolia.

On social media several people shared screenshots of other air quality indexes showed readings of more than 9,000, officially “beyond index”.

Some residents in Ningxia, in China’s west, said they woke up in the middle of the night feeling as though they couldn’t breathe. One commenter on Weibo joked that they felt like they needed to learn how to ride a camel.

Sandstorms are relatively common at this time of year, and usually attributed to winds blowing across the Gobi desert, but long-term residents said they had not seen one of this severity in years.

Large-scale deforestation is also considered a factor in the spring dust storms, and China has been trying to reforest and restore the ecology of the region in order to limit how much sand is blown into the capital.

Beijing has planted a “great green wall” of trees to trap incoming dust, and tried to create air corridors that channel the wind and allow sand and other pollutants to pass through more quickly.

Beijing and surrounding regions have been suffering from high levels of pollution in recent weeks, with the city shrouded in smog during the national session of parliament which began earlier this month.

Tangshan, China’s top steelmaking city and a major source of pollution in Beijing and Hebei, said on Saturday it would punish local enterprises for failing to carry out emergency anti-smog measures.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020/2021 freezing season
« on: March 12, 2021, 12:09:00 AM »
 there is a remarkably clear view of much of the Arctic ocean today on worldview .. well worth a closer look . The storm has certainly had it's impact . Wide crack opened N. of Asia and flow thru Fram has taken off ..

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: March 09, 2021, 04:48:36 PM »
  Sorry Steve .. my current treatment of posts is based on .. '' Politics/The rest .. is technically a distraction/dump part of the forum.'' . This observation by Kassy has inclined me to allow pretty much anything .. b.c

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: March 03, 2021, 04:11:18 PM »
' Sweden .. has done fine ' ..indeed , if 19th worst in the world and far , far worse than it's neighbours counts as 'doing fine ' .

The rest / Re: Good music
« on: March 02, 2021, 10:22:16 PM »

Lord Is It Mine
I know that there's a reason why I need to be alone
You show me there's a silent place that I can call my own
Is it mine
Oh Lord is it mine
You know I get so weary from the battles in this life
And there's many times it seems that you're the only hope in sight
Is it mine
Oh Lord is it mine
When everything's dark
And nothing seems right
There's nothing to win
And there's no need to fight
I never cease to wonder at the cruelty of this land
But it seems a time of sadness is a time to understand
Is it mine
Oh Lord is it mine
When everything's dark
And nothing seems right
You don't have to win
And there's no need to fight
If only I could find a way to feel your sweetness through the day
The love that shines around me could be mine
So give us an answer won't you
We know what we have to do
There must be a thousand voices try ing to get through
Source: Musixmatch
Songwriters: R. Davies / R. Hodgson
Lord Is It Mine lyrics © Almo Music Corp., Delicate Music

The rest / Re: Astronomical news
« on: March 01, 2021, 01:37:33 PM »
 I went out for a little star gazing last night . first I see a satellite traversing NW-SE . A minute later 2 pass the N end of Orion heading NE . These are followed by 4 more in the next 2 minutes , all on the same track .. the night sky is getting busy .. b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020/2021 freezing season
« on: February 26, 2021, 08:18:03 PM »
I do find it strange that while we all agree that volume is the best measure , we ignore what it says about where we are in the freeze/melt cycle . Peak volume is probably 2 or 3 months away , at which time melt finally exceeds freeze .. Neither melt or freeze are seasonal in that both are always ongoing , unless we have passed the point where that is true , yet twice a year excitement builds . Are the Inuit and the polar bears awaiting the news with bated breath ? AS IF ! :) b.c.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: February 26, 2021, 01:08:10 PM »
Worldometer shows no deaths for 17th Feb .. any ideas why ?

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: February 22, 2021, 11:10:22 PM »
It sure was silly of Trump to load the supreme court with 'Leftists' . b.c.

Consequences / Re: Places becoming less livable
« on: February 22, 2021, 04:28:30 PM »
.. boosting consumption and greenhouse gases of course ..

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020/2021 freezing season
« on: February 21, 2021, 08:27:58 PM »
Uniquorn ''NOAA-20 viirs brightness temperature has come back but it's too cloudy today. ''

 .. not if you zoom in ( as often with wv ) ; today there is open water 30km wide @ 83'N 21'W , and the last few days show what a weak state the region's ice is in .. b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020/2021 freezing season
« on: February 21, 2021, 01:09:25 PM »
NOAA-20 viirs brightness temperature has come back but it's too cloudy today. ..
 'tis strange .. the missing 2 days have suddenly appeared too .. b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020/2021 freezing season
« on: February 21, 2021, 11:44:49 AM »
regarding the dmi80 graph .. it is tracking perfectly the (stratospheric) rise this time in 2018 that coincided  with the first great opening N. of Greenland . Deja vu ?
  Where has the worldview of the winter Arctic gone since I recommended it a couple of days ago ? Too scary for us mere mortals to see ? .. or have we lost a precious resource ?   b.c.

The politics / Re: The Collapse Of America
« on: February 20, 2021, 04:53:33 PM »
but nothing could possibly go wrong when they all have Ted Cruz watching their backs ..

Arctic sea ice / Re: 2021 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: February 20, 2021, 04:42:40 PM »
Hi Gero. .. last 2 days you report NSIDC sea ice extent GAINS ???  b.c.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020/2021 freezing season
« on: February 19, 2021, 12:57:26 AM »
 it's a good day to see the ice departing the NE coast of Greenland , and lots more .. with worldview :


Consequences / Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« on: February 18, 2021, 10:23:18 PM »
indeed blu_ice , I am more than a little concerned that something not dissimilar to New Orleans is taking place . If 10's or 100's of thousands of frozen pipes are burst , the nightmare has only begun . b.c.

The politics / Re: The Collapse Of America
« on: February 18, 2021, 04:42:30 PM »
Rodius, I do know how fast it can blow up in this country. That is why I asked the question. I am afraid of a ACWII or an American Spring. With all the guns and ammo (not to mention nukes) in this country, that would be a nightmare scenario.

  but .. it's what you voted for , remember ?   b.c.

Permafrost / Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2020-2021 Snowcover / Misc Obs
« on: February 18, 2021, 04:30:49 PM »
my mother's uncle admitted defeat and returned with his family from central Canada 110 years ago .. 'too cold to bear' he wrote home to his mother . His shame made him volunteer for war and he died in 1916 on the Belgian / French border . b.c.

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