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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: April 14, 2021, 03:02:13 AM »
COVID-19 Deaths A Look at U.S. Data FEB 2021 WORKING PAPER Genevieve Briand PhD
Assistant Program Director/Senior Lecturer, MS in Applied Economics, Johns Hopkins University.


The CDC data on U.S. deaths used in this analysis are the best available data at one point in time. Each and
every recorded death is given one and only one underlying cause of death. Old age is not an underlying cause of
death. U.S. total deaths’ increases over the years have followed U.S. population’s increases. U.S. total deaths
for calendar year 2020 or season 2019-20 are normal death numbers, as shown by death rate statistics.
rate statistics account for the increase in population over the years—standard “excess deaths estimates” do not.
The U.S. age distribution of deaths did not significantly change following COVID-19. This suggests the reason
a higher number of COVID-19 deaths has been reported among older individuals than younger individuals, is
simply because, every day in the U.S., COVID-19 or not, those aged 85 or older are at a higher risk of dying
than those aged 84 or younger. This should come as no surprise to anyone.
Deaths have followed a pattern of highs and lows, year after year, and the magnitude of those highs and lows,
one year relatively to another, has been consistent for each and every main cause of death. In other words, the
peaks of deaths, from all those different causes, have coincide (happened over the same weeks)—year after
year, and the magnitude of those peaks for one year relative to another, for each cause, has also been consistent
across causes. But not for 2020.
Respiratory diseases had previously been classified into one the following three cause of death categories:
Chronic lower respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia, and other diseases of the respiratory system. The
historically low levels of deaths due to these old respiratory diseases points to a reclassification of deaths into
the newly and specially introduced respiratory disease category for COVID-19. Level of deaths departing from
their historical levels, such as deaths due to non-natural causes (suicides) and natural cause (diabetes) points to
mitigation efforts (isolation, lockdowns) being the cause of death, rather than COVID-19 itself.
March 24th 2020 is the date the new International Classification of Diseases (ICD) code issued by the World
Trade Organization (WHO) for COVID-19 was introduced and implemented in the United States. Up until then,
the CDC’s deaths data provided a treasure trove of information, with easily recognizable seasonal patterns and
the U.S. weekly deaths were following those historical patterns, exactly. On week ending March 28th 2020, the
U.S. weekly deaths sharply departed from them. Are the unfamiliar patterns seen since due to COVID-19 or the
reoccurring fear campaigns?
On March 13, 2020 the President of the United States declared a national emergency concerning COVID-19
that would legally allow the distribution of funds. The unprecedented level of efforts, pressure, and means
devoted to COVID-19 since, rule out any concerns of underreporting of COVID-19 deaths. What role have
those different incentives play in the potential overreporting of COVID-19 deaths?
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The picture of the U.S. COVID-19 situation was heavily skewed by deaths numbers from jurisdictions such as
New York City and the State of New Jersey. At the state level, many have shown no change in deaths numbers
and pattern of deaths in 2019-20, compared to prior seasons.
Has any consideration ever been given to the relevance of the national picture and national “solutions”, to state,
county, local and individual situations? Or have COVID-19 measures been blindly adopted and applied, topdown, in haste, obsessively and short sightedly? What role did groupthink play into this? Those questions will
need to be answered.
A more holistic approach to health seems to be needed to address each individual’s unique circumstances, needs
and preferences. Only such an approach can minimize all the suffering and inequities at the individual level, and
maximize welfare at the society level. This individual centered approach to health needs not to harm one, for
others to benefit. It fosters unity, by being compassionate to all.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: April 14, 2021, 01:48:38 AM »
In Australia, the regulator, the Therapuetic Goods Administration admits that the PCR test is not necessarily accurate.

"Available evidence on the performance of COVID-19 tests mainly comes from symptomatic patients, and their clinical role in detecting asymptomatic carriers is unclear."

The CDC has a similar statement on its website.

With the veracity of testing in question, how can evidence based policies be made ?

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: April 09, 2021, 03:26:41 AM »
Covid vaccines have not been proven to stop transmission of Sars Cov2 virus.

The efficency of the vaccine only refers to subjects not getting symptoms.

"In clinical trials, the Pfizer vaccine was found to be 95 per cent effective at reducing disease," the ABC reported. "But whether it stopped people from getting infected in the first place isn't yet known — because it wasn't measured."

Fact check: Scientists do not yet know whether the COVID-19 vaccine reduces transmission of the virus

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: April 09, 2021, 03:13:41 AM »
Health Canada recalls face masks with graphene due to potential health risks

Canadians have been advised not to wear masks that contain graphene or biomass graphene after Health Canada’s preliminary assessment of available research found that it could cause early lung toxicity in animals if inhaled, according to its advisory.

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: April 06, 2021, 04:04:56 AM »
Retina Vascular Perfusion Dynamics During Exercise With and Without Face Masks in Healthy Young Adults: An OCT Angiography Study

Purpose: To determine possible impacts on retinal microvasculature in healthy young adults during exercise with a face mask, using optical coherence tomography angiography (OCTA).

Methods: Twenty-three healthy participants (23 eyes, 17 women and 6 men) performed the incremental continuous running test (ICRT) with different masks. OCTA of the macula and optic nerve head were performed before and after ICRT to detect changes in retinal vessel density (VD). All participants were in groups A, B, and C (before ICRT) and groups A′, B′, and C′ (after ICRT), which comprised data from volunteers without a mask, with a surgical mask, and with an N95 mask, respectively.

Results: Before ICRT, group C showed significantly reduced VD in the superficial plexus (SP), except foveal VD, compared with group A (P < 0.05). After ICRT, groups B′ and C′ showed significantly shorter maximum running time, lower oxygen saturation, and lower perifoveal VD of SP compared with group A′ (P < 0.05).

Conclusions: Use of an N95 mask reduced VD in SP even under quiescent conditions, which might have clinical implications for protecting healthy workers and indoor manual labor workers from potential risks of retinal damage due to long-term mask use. Moreover, mask use while exercising might lead to attenuated exercise ability and lower VD in SP, which should be investigated in additional studies.

Translational Relevance: Retina vascular perfusion dynamics could be monitored in vivo by OCTA, which would be valuable to study physiologic retinal blood flow redistribution and potential impacts on retinal vascular perfusion during exercise with face masks."

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: March 31, 2021, 11:59:08 PM »
I am a spiritual being having a human experience rather than a human being having a spiritual experience.

That's why I can face the next and last El Nino.

Science / Re: Where are we now in CO2e , which pathway are we on?
« on: March 25, 2021, 12:14:30 AM »
Can someone please rebutt the latest article by Sam Carana ?

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: March 20, 2021, 11:47:00 PM »
The covid vaccine trials did not address the issue of whether the vaccines stop transmission.

So the science is unclear.

"Studies of individuals and larger populations are needed to see how well vaccines protect against transmission, says Basta. “We really do need evidence that spans the whole spectrum.”"

Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: March 20, 2021, 11:31:05 PM »
<Moon landing denial not allowed, removed. O>

I ask a question.

Is it possible to quantify the computer power necessary to achieve the moon landing ?

Is it possible for a computer historian to quantify the amount of computer power available to scientists at the time of the moon landing ?

Arctic sea ice / Re: Freeform season chatter and light commentary
« on: March 20, 2021, 01:48:54 AM »
<Moon landing denial not allowed, removed. O>

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: March 19, 2021, 05:36:29 AM »
In Australia, the regulatory authority is not sure of the accuracy of the PCR test.

"Available evidence on the performance of COVID-19 tests mainly comes from symptomatic patients, and their clinical role in detecting asymptomatic carriers is unclear."

This makes a mockery of case numbers, which are consequently scientifically meaningless.

Australia has had 909 deaths linked to covid but no confirmed deaths as no autopsies were done which is breach of protocols as infectious disease deaths should be scrutinized, especially in a pandemic.

I rang the Federal and Victorian Ministries of Health to confirm that no autopsies had been done and they did not refute it. I also raised the issue multiple times on talback radio including a call to South Australian State Legislative Mr Frank Pangallo, who was conducting a talkback program for 5aa as a guest announcer. He could not give me a reason for no autopsies.

The average age of deaths linked to covid is 83 yo. About life expectancy.

Not one healthy person has died or become seriously ill from covid in Oz.

Masks were never mandated in South Australia which has had 4 deaths linked to covid.

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: March 17, 2021, 03:35:43 AM »
More denialist crap. Enough, I say. The oh so objective Dr. Stefan Lanka, a great source for science.

(This is from 2015)
Stefan Lanka is a German biologist with a long history of pseudoscientific outbursts, including a denial that the human immunodeficiency virus, or HIV, “exists at all.”

In November 2011 he put his money where his mouth is by offering 100,000 euros (about $106,000) to anyone who could prove that the measles virus exists. His position is that the disease is “a psychosomatic illness” caused by “traumatic separations.”

The challenge was taken up by David Bardens, a German doctor who compiled evidence from medical journals proving the disease’s viral cause. When Lanka rejected the evidence, Bardens sued. Last week a German court found Bardens’ evidence persuasive and ordered Lanka to pay. He says he’ll appeal.

Unfortunately we live in a world where the leading search engine purposefully orders its search results to mislead the public.

Dr Lanka won the court case in Germany's Higher Regional Court.

"A short interview with Dr Stefan Lanka after he won in the Higher Regional Court in Stuttgart on February 16, 2016 regarding the lack of scientific evidence for the existence of the measles virus."
6 minutes

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: March 15, 2021, 01:06:14 AM »
"Fetal bovine serum" aka Bovine Serum Albumin (BSA) is a stable protein (not genetic material) used for immunoassays and is one of the most common research materials found in biological culture labs. I can almost guarantee you that BSA does not show up as "RNA sequences" and would be immediately called out if it was represented as such in any publication. It would be scandalous. The monkey kidney cells are likely used as hosts since viruses need cells to replicate and the BSA is a component of the medium used to grow the culture. There absolutely is a record considering that the virus's genome has been sequenced and individual base pair changes are recognized and tracked, with major mutations being given names.

You are completely out of your element and spouting loony-bin garbage. I respect different opinions being able to be shared here, but I hope this has opened Oren's and others' eyes that HHI is posing extremely inaccurate and disingenuous information. You are worse than a basic COVID denier because you are going further and denying a central tenet of immunology/biology as a whole. I'm going to need more evidence than a twitter post from a QAnon follower and a bitchute video from a germ theory denier to be convinced that 150 years of evidence is bunk. We can argue about the politics of the response to the pandemic all we want, but please stop spreading such blatant misinformation that you obviously have no idea how to verify.

To the moderation team, if my tone is too harsh please let me know and I can tone down this response, however I think my words are appropriate for the posts I have addressed, considering the degree of confidence with which such statements were posed.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation. - Herbert Spencer

Censorship is directly contrary to science, which is not static but a process of discovery.

So appealing to authority is just referencing the current consensus, but science is not just consensus, it is dynamic.

Members of this forum are scientific literate and do not need anyone to hold their hand.

Dr Stefan Lanka has inspired Project Immanuel :-

"In this video we would like to introduce Project Immanuel, which critically examines the scientific background of the so-called "Corona Crisis." With the help of the natural scientist and virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka, all fundamental publications on SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 are closely scrutinised and scientifically examined in a series of posts.

Our main objective is to make science understandable to everyone. All the necessary technical terms and scientific procedures of virology and microbiology that one needs to know and understand are explained in a way that is easy for everyone to comprehend and illustrated with many examples.This is a scientific project. This means, for one thing, that although we are very critical of all that has been done and has happened in the Corona crisis, we always remain neutral. We do not take sides with anyone, nor do we condemn anyone. We analyse everything from a purely scientific medical point of view."
16 minutes.

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: March 12, 2021, 01:12:00 AM »
Wow, now I've truly seen it all. I didn't think that people legitimately bought into that one. I guess if there are significant numbers of people out there who manage to pretend there isn't an overwhelming body of evidence and data to support the many facets of modern evolutionary theory, that other biological science cornerstones such as germ theory of disease, or hell maybe even the central dogma might be paraded as bunk by fringe groups.

That article is a load of cherry-picked trash squeezed through a cheese cloth of semantics to postulate a hypothesis that is founded on a misreading and misunderstanding of a single scientific paper, which it then attempts to use to discredit a 150 year old, incredibly well supported theory.

Scientists have not only meticulously sequenced the genomes of a variety of pathogens (including viruses), constructed phylogenetic trees of common evolutionary ancestry, and identified surface proteins as well as other biochemical mechanisms responsible for cellular entry and hijacking, but they have been able to apply these principles and knowledge to treat and prevent infection from these pathogens (including viruses). We not only understand THAT germ theory works, we understand HOW germ theory works.

If the germ theory of disease was so fundamentally wrong, I would suspect it to be entirely impossible for the currently existing body of anti-pathogen medical interventions so widely applied today to be functional. Considering the author of this blog spends a considerable chunk of the article trying to hawk his new book, I suspect he has ulterior motives, as most quack pseudo-scientists do. 

Anybody seriously considering HHI's post as any degree of credible should spend an hour looking into germ theory of disease themselves and drawing their own conclusions. You too will see how utterly ridiculous that GreenMedInfo blogpost is.

"Collecting FOIs re the never-isolated, never-sequenced purely imaginary "virus / SARS-COV-2" blamed for the imaginary "pandemic" that's based entirely on fraud."

Christine Massey has collated Freedom of Information requests for proof of the isolation of the SARS Cov2 virus.

So far the authorities have "no record".

 "The request is for records describing the isolation (aka purification) of the alleged “COVID-19” virus, from a patient sample that was not first adulterated with additional genetic material (typically monkey kidney cells and fetal bovine serum). "


The rest / Re: Masks
« on: March 12, 2021, 12:58:16 AM »

Germ theory denialism is the pseudoscientific belief that germs do not cause infectious disease, and that the germ theory of disease is wrong. It usually involves arguing that Louis Pasteur's model of infectious disease was wrong, and that Antoine Béchamp's was right. In fact, its origins are rooted in Béchamp's empirically disproven (in the context of disease) theory of pleomorphism. Another obsolete variation is known as terrain theory and postulates that diseased tissue attracts germs rather than being caused by it.

"In microbiology, pleomorphism (from Ancient Greek πλέω-, pléō, "more", and -μορφή, morphḗ, form) is the ability of some microorganisms to alter their morphology, biological functions or reproductive modes in response to environmental conditions. Pleomorphism has been observed in some members of the Deinococcaceae family of bacteria.[1] "

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: March 11, 2021, 05:49:35 AM »
Microbial Contamination on Used Surgical Masks among Hospital Personnel and Microbial Air Quality in their Working Wards: A Hospital in Bangkok

Oxygen is so precious.

If the oxygen composition in the atmosphere reduces from current 21% to 19.5%, we will become extinct. That is only 7.5% reduction.

Masks are causing bad breath because the body is not able to exhale its excretions, leading to a build up of unwanted bacteria that is leading to bacterial pneumonia.

This is exasperated by the use of anti-bacterial sanitizer, that is totally useless against viruses, as they are not living things, and harms our symbiotic ecosystem that consists of trillions of microbes.

What a massive load of nonsense.  Idiocy, actually.
The two references are only tangentially relevant to any of the crap here. 
We live in an environment loaded with microorganisms.  Wear a mask, and these common organisms end up on the mask.  Shock, horror.  It still filters virus, so wear it.

"If the oxygen composition in the atmosphere reduces from current 21% to 19.5%, we will become extinct. That is only 7.5% reduction."  Well, that's a lie.  You'll get a much further reduction in O2 per cubic meter of air from a moderate elevation from sea level.   But according to this, all of Denver must be extinct.  Snort.

"Masks are causing bad breath because the body is not able to exhale its excretions, leading to a build up of unwanted bacteria that is leading to bacterial pneumonia."  More unsupported lies.  Where is there any evidence that wearing a mask causes either bad breath or pneumonia?  Certainly not in that PubMed article.  Do people who perform surgery all day or wear masks on construction sites fill our hospital wards?  No, the masks protect themselves and others.  So wear them.

"exasperated by the use of anti-bacterial sanitizer"?   No, what is exasperating is having to knock down stupid lies on a science-based forum.  They're not even plausible lies.  The sanitizers are a strong solution of ethanol.  This is highly effective against fungi, bacteria and viruses.  Some spores might survive, but viruses don't produce spores.

Coronaviruses have an envelope, derived from cell membranes.  These envelopes are quite fragile.  Ethanol will absolutely destroy these viruses.  So use it.

Where did this load of crap come from, exactly?  Why would you post it here?

" The minimum oxygen concentration in the air required for human breathing is 19.5 percent."
" Each breath you take at a higher altitude contains less oxygen molecules than breathing at a lower altitude. This can cause altitude sickness."

It is plain common sense that masks reduce oxygen intake. There are occupational health and safety regulations that deal with the specifics.

But let me cut to the chase, we are debating at cross purposes. I subscribe to Bechamps Terrain Theory rather than Pasteur's unproven Germ Theory (Koch's Postulates have never been satisfied)

"Bechamp or Pasteur ? A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology" demonstrates that Pasteur was a scientific fraud and Bechamp was an amazing scientist and person.

Fast forward to the present we have Dr Stefan Lanka, Dr Tom Cowan, Dr Andrew Kaufman and many others trying to fill the gap left by at least 160 years of misdirection in human health.

Luckily, this one article can bring you up to speed :

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: March 09, 2021, 01:22:31 AM »
Microbial Contamination on Used Surgical Masks among Hospital Personnel and Microbial Air Quality in their Working Wards: A Hospital in Bangkok

Oxygen is so precious.

If the oxygen composition in the atmosphere reduces from current 21% to 19.5%, we will become extinct. That is only 7.5% reduction.

Masks are causing bad breath because the body is not able to exhale its excretions, leading to a build up of unwanted bacteria that is leading to bacterial pneumonia.

This is exasperated by the use of anti-bacterial sanitizer, that is totally useless against viruses, as they are not living things, and harms our symbiotic ecosystem that consists of trillions of microbes.

The rest / Re: Masks
« on: March 09, 2021, 01:00:09 AM »
Landmark Danish study finds no significant effect for facemask wearers

The rest / Re: Systemic Isolation
« on: March 08, 2021, 02:07:48 AM »
New Research Indicates the Whole Universe Could Be a Giant Neural Network

All the universe is a neural network, and all the humans merely nodes

In a thought-provoking new paper, a physicist suggests the whole universe could be a single neural network—a competing “theory of everything” that could unite quantum and classical mechanics, he says.

The core idea is deceptively simple: every observable phenomenon in the entire universe can be modeled by a neural network. And that means, by extension, the universe itself may be a neural network.

...“Would this theory mean we’re living in a simulation?” Futurism’s Victor Tangermann asked Vanchurin. “No, we live in a neural network,” he replied. “But we might never know the difference.”

If we’re all nodes in a neural network, what’s the network’s purpose? Is the universe one giant, closed network or is it a single layer in a grander network? Or perhaps we’re just one of trillions of other universes connected to the same network. When we train our neural networks we run thousands or millions of cycles until the AI is properly “trained.” Are we just one of an innumerable number of training cycles for some larger-than-universal machine’s greater purpose?

... “We discuss a possibility that the entire universe on its most fundamental level is a neural network. We identify two different types of dynamical degrees of freedom: “trainable” variables and “hidden” variables.

We consider the trainable variables to argue that near equilibrium their dynamics [are] well approximated by Madelung equations and further away from the equilibrium by Hamilton-Jacobi equations. This shows that the trainable variables can indeed exhibit classical and quantum behaviors.”

A new study published in Medical Hypothesis suggests, among other things, the existence of a plausible molecular mechanism to account for a hitherto inexplicable aspect of the so-called Gaia hypothesis; a theory which proposes that the Earth is self-regulating and controlled by the community of living organisms.

The new study, with its unforgivably long title, "Possible role for microRNAs as inter-species mediators of epigenetic information in disease pathogenesis: Is the non-coding dark matter
 of the genome responsible for epigenetic interindividual or interspecies communication?", identifies transcribable elements within the so-called "dark matter" of the genome (the about 98.5% of the genome that does not code for proteins) known as non-coding RNAs. One kind of non-coding RNA identified in the study known as microRNA is believed capable of acting as a master regulator of gene expression across kingdoms.

A groundbreaking new study published in Molecular Nutrition & Food Research titled, "Interspecies communication between plant and mouse gut host cells through edible plant derived exosome-like nanoparticles," reveals a new way that food components 'talk' to animal cells by regulating gene expression and conferring significant therapeutic effects. With the recent discovery that non-coding microRNA's in food are capable of directly altering gene expression within human physiology,[1] this new study further concretizes the notion that the age old aphorism 'you are what you eat' is now consistent with cutting edge molecular biology.

Exosomes: The 'Missing Link' In How Plants and Animal Cells Communicate and Collaborate

Consequences / Re: Origins of SARS-CoV-2
« on: March 02, 2021, 01:14:47 AM »
“Influenza virions therefore resemble exosomes both in their hydrodynamic properties and in their protein composition.”

Exosomes need to be stored at -70C, so how can “viruses” survive in open air when they have the same hydrodynamic properties ?

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 17, 2020, 04:17:09 AM »
There is no Matrix B

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: August 15, 2020, 06:09:40 AM »
Allen says:
August 13, 2020 at 5:17 pm
AVG Age of “Death by Covid”:

Austria 80+ years Source EMS;
Canada 86 years Source HCSC;
England 80+ years Source NHS;
France 84 years Source SPF;
Germany 82 years Source RKI;
Italy 81 years Source ISS;
Spain 82 years Source MDS;
Switzerland 84 years Source BAG;
United States 80 years Source CDC;
Sweden 86 years Source FOHM

A “global pandemic” is certainly not defined by age of deaths EXCEEDING the normal lifespan with no young healthy people are affected.

I will offer up just a few broad comments and put details to them if you wish:

1) There is no excess death toll due to virus- that death toll is due to policy shifts and attribution to “Covid” is patently false when not outright administrative corruption by health officials;

2) Above “excess” death toll is an artifact of nursing home mismanagement- 60% of “covid deaths” from nursing homes + or – 3%- once that is taken away we have near record numbers of low mortality rates in country after country;

3) The average age of “Covid deaths” worldwide EXCEEDS the normal lifespan of citizens of those countries- that being 81 years old with on average 2.5 comorbidities- think about that;

4) Average number of weeks of life lost due to “Covid” is a mere 1-3 weeks and that’s without consideration of having died “from” or “with”;

5) PCR tests used to determine “cases” are a diagnostic fraud- inventor of PCR test, Kary Mullis, asserted PCR tests were not designed for diagnostic purposes;

6) Cases which are determined by flawed PCR tests are purposefully juiced up in numerous ways- want details?- this is not simply more tests=more cases we are talking medical and institutional fraud- why did the CDC change years old policies on March 24th, April 14th and June 13th with each change designed to increase number of “positive” test cases;

7) The WHO changed it’s definition of pandemic in 2009. Why? What preceded this in 2007?

8) In the annals of pandemic since the year 350 this one ranks 23rd out of 24 in overall deaths as a percentage of population worldwide. The swine flu pandemic of 2009 (coincidentally the same year the WHO changed that definition) ranks 24th. These two pandemics are several hundred (thousand in some cases) % points lower in mortality rates than past pandemics- how did they even make the cut;

9) The “deaths from Covid” are from a specific demographic- pandemics are noted to impact mortality rates of a broad demographic. That demographic is not merely the elderly but the most fragile of the fragile of the elderly who could die from any infection in their condition;

10) “Deaths from Covid” are from specific locations. Pandemics are defined (supposed to be) by cutting across a wide swath of geographic regions. This pandemic has the habit of only impacting densely populated areas and more specifically the elderly in those areas and more specifically nursing homes- in the US for example if we eliminated just the deaths from NJ and NYC nursing homes we would not be having this conversation. In Italy same would be said if we eliminated deaths from elderly in Northern Italy- same elsewhere Belgium, spain, Canada, Sweden etc.;

The above 10 points are the short list.

If people would stop wearing masks and stay off the internet and cable news for a week no one would know there was such a virus in existence.

You can’t stop living the lie until you stop telling it.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: August 15, 2020, 05:29:14 AM »
On Friday, April 24, 2020, Vittorio Sgarbi, a member of the Italian Chamber of Deputies, denounced what he claims are false coronavirus death statistics. Sgarbi feels that fake statistics are being propagated by the government and the media to terrorize the citizens of Italy and establish a dictatorship.

The science of the coronavirus is not disputed. It is well documented and openly admitted:

Most people won’t get the virus.
Most of the people who get it won’t display symptoms.
Most of the people who display symptoms will only be mildly sick.
Most of the people with severe symptoms will never be critically ill.
And most of the people who get critically ill will survive.

1. On May 26th Dr Alexander Myasnikov, Russia’s head of coronavirus information, gave an interview to former-Presidential candidate Ksenia Sobchak in which he apparently let slip his true feelings.

Believing the interview over, and the camera turned off, Myasnikov said:

It’s all bullshit […] It’s all exaggerated. It’s an acute respiratory disease with minimal mortality […] Why has the whole world been destroyed? That I don’t know,”

2. The Danish Health Authority continues to consider that covid-19 cannot be described as a generally dangerous disease, as it does not have either a usually serious course or a high mortality rate

3. The report was commissioned by the German department of the interior, but then its findings were ignored, prompting one of the authors to release it through non-official channels.

We’re going to focus on just the reports conclusions, including [our emphasis]:

The dangerousness of Covid-19 was overestimated: probably at no point did the danger posed by the new virus go beyond the normal level.
The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.
During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: August 15, 2020, 04:44:52 AM »
Government quietly drops 1.3m Covid tests from England tally

Exclusive: Double counting raises fresh questions about accuracy of testing figures

"The Department for Health and Social Care (DHSC) said the changes affected data reported between 14 May and 12 August. It said there had been “a double-counting of test kits that had been dispatched”, “which had not been removed from the lab’s processed data”."

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: August 15, 2020, 03:23:30 AM »
Rappoport: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, [secretly] stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the “pandemic,” without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn’t that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn’t there more to find out?

Attkisson: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it [after it was published on the CBS News website] and, in the end, no [CBS television news] broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: August 15, 2020, 02:15:32 AM »
Tanzania says 'faulty' WHO test kits showed coronavirus in a goat and a pawpaw

"Dr John Nkengasong, director of the Africa Centres for Disease Control (CDC), said Tanzania was using test kits supplied by the Africa CDC in collaboration with the Chinese Jack Ma Foundation, which met international standards.

"Tanzania is using the same test that everyone is using," Dr Nkengasong said, noting that it was improbable the tests were faulty."

Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: August 14, 2020, 04:39:19 PM »
According to the Australian Government  Department of Health -

"The reliability of COVID-19 tests is uncertain due to the limited evidence base. Available evidence mainly comes from symptomatic patients, and their clinical role in detecting asymptomatic carriers is unclear."


" The extent to which a positive PCR result correlates with the infectious state of an individual is still being determined"

So the tests are dodgy

The inventor Kary Mullis, who received the Nobel Prize,  did say the PCR test is only useful qualitatively, not quantitatively.

The rest / Re: Pseudoscience and how to debunk it
« on: August 07, 2020, 06:23:44 AM »
Interesting article

Growing number of Aussies believe police should be able to fine COVID-19 conspiracy theorists

I suggest a thread be titled "Alternative hypotheses to conventional wisdom"

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 06, 2020, 02:27:25 AM »
See under EPIDEMIOLOCICAL STUDIES: “Perhaps the most interesting epidemiological studies conducted during the 1918–1919 pandemic were the human experiments conducted by the Public Health Service and the U.S. Navy under the supervision of Milton Rosenau on Gallops Island, the quarantine station in Boston Harbor, and on Angel Island, its counterpart in San Francisco. The experiment began with 100 volunteers from the Navy who had no history of influenza. Rosenau was the first to report on the experiments conducted at Gallops Island in November and December 1918.69 His first volunteers received first one strain and then several strains of Pfeiffer’s bacillus by spray and swab into their noses and throats and then into their eyes. When that procedure failed to produce disease, others were inoculated with mixtures of other organisms isolated from the throats and noses of influenza patients. Next, some volunteers received injections of blood from influenza patients. Finally, 13 of the volunteers were taken into an influenza ward and exposed to 10 influenza patients each. Each volunteer was to shake hands with each patient, to talk with him at close range, and to permit him to cough directly into his face. None of the volunteers in these experiments developed influenza. Rosenau was clearly puzzled, and he cautioned against drawing conclusions from negative results. He ended his article in JAMA with a telling acknowledgement: “We entered the outbreak with a notion that we knew the cause of the disease, and were quite sure we knew how it was transmitted from person to person. Perhaps, if we have learned anything, it is that we are not quite sure what we know about the disease.”69 (p. 313)”

The Germ Theory of Disease remains unproven.

Wikipedia, what are the systems of the human body ?

Thanks but you left out the most important one that all vertebrates possess, the endocannabinoid system. Fail

<No, they didn't! >> - BK>

"The ECS is the primary homeostatic regulatory system of the body. It can readily be viewed as the body’s internal adaptogenic system, constantly working to maintain a vast range of functions in equilibrium. Endocannabinoids broadly work as neuromodulators and, as such, they regulate a wide scope of physiological processes – from fertility to pain. Some of the better-known functions impacted by the ECS are as follows:

Science is about discovery.

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 04, 2020, 06:31:54 AM »
No, Igs, that's not what this is about.

This is about the conspiracy that vaccines serve the purpose to reprogram the genetics of humans to enslave us all.

If you want to read about this, go to Facebook and follow the most lunatic fringe accounts. The whole internet is riddled with this. This is a scientifically oriented forum. Lunatic fringe is not the scope of this forum.

OK, that's one of the bullshit conspiracy theories, thanks for info.

I think that most would come to the same conclusion and the rest is helplessly lost so why not let it stand. Deleting stuff only fuels the wrong and doesn't damage mature thinkers at all, simply makes us laugh.

However that may be, you have to discuss this with your fellow mods, not my call, just my two cents.


I love humiliating CC deniers when I get the chance - so much fun, like asking them why Venus is hotter than Mercury.

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 04, 2020, 06:27:34 AM »
If there is ever a place to post anything (barring the illegal) it should be here on the OTOT thread.

What was the actual conspiracy site? Was the content so bad we needed to be protected? The paper is pretty interesting but i have no idea how any conspiracy site would spin that and i am sort of curious. I think i would survive reading some conspiracy take on it and if there was some clear BS in it i would comment on that but now i can´t.

This annoys me more then whatever the conspiracy site can come up with.

People are responsible for what they post. I think it is ok to add reminders that the quoted site is 100% Koch funded if that is the case or whatever applies but i prefer to make my own judgements.

This is a recent comprehensive article that asserts the current medical paradigm is incorrect

"Why Everything You Learned About Viruses is WRONG"
Published by GreenMedInfo by founder Sayer Ji

< Mod notice:
This is a faith healer/quack site:

Ji wants to vindicate ancient healing traditions by showing people that there are recent scientific studies that confirm this ancestral knowledge. He says that food is information that we put in our body and it interacts with our genes. When we alter this information, we’re introducing “bad information” into our body, which means our proteins get misfolded and we get ill, he claims. He thinks “heroic doses” of medication and nutraceuticals is the wrong approach; we need daily “culinary doses”. And he thinks that his god made things in nature look like what they are meant to heal, so that a walnut looks like the brain because it’s meant to help our brain function.


The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 04, 2020, 06:20:40 AM »
COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless

Though the whole world relies on RT-PCR to “diagnose” Sars-Cov-2 infection, the science is clear: they are not fit for purpose



<Mod notice:
Torsten Engelbrecht and Konstantin Demeter, the authors of this 'paper' are known German conspiracy theorists. They also write for the German website Rubikon, a known conspiracy site.

Link >>


The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 04, 2020, 04:57:46 AM »
Neven's policy has always been to avoid links to denier sites from the ASIF, both so as not to lead the readers astray, and more importantly to avoid giving the deniers financial gain by increasing clicks and search engine placements.

And i 100% agree with this. Those people are malicious and platforming them makes us complicitous. Nothing i can live with, to be honest.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That principle is contempt prior to investigation. - Herbert Spencer

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 04, 2020, 04:55:49 AM »
"The reliability of COVID-19 tests is uncertain due to the limited evidence base"

" The extent to which a positive PCR result correlates with the infectious state of an individual is still being determined"

That is correct. A PCR test being positive doesn't mean the patient is infectious. There are also false negatives. Has nothing to do with the message of this so-called doctor though.

So the tests used to determine the extent of restrictions and lockdowns that are affecting billions of people around the world are inaccurate and that doesn't bother you ?

Kary Mullis, who received the Nobel Prize for inventing the PCR test, said that the test was not suitable as a diagnostic tool because it does not quantify a virus load.

Kary Mullis died 7 August 2019.

Event 201
The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.

Also on October 18 2019 the opening ceremony of the World Military Games in Wuhan China

In July 2019, the citizens of Wuhan protested about the toxic air pollution that was making them sick

China tops WHO list for deadly outdoor air pollution
More than 1 million people died from dirty air in one year, according to World Health Organisation

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 03, 2020, 08:10:24 AM »
Australian Government

Department of Health

Therapeutic Goods Administration :-

COVID-19 testing in Australia - information for health professionals

"The reliability of COVID-19 tests is uncertain due to the limited evidence base"

" The extent to which a positive PCR result correlates with the infectious state of an individual is still being determined"

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 03, 2020, 07:54:45 AM »

Andy Kaufman, M.D. is a natural healing consultant, inventor, public speaker, forensic psychiatrist, and expert witness. He completed his psychiatric training at Duke University Medical Center after graduating from the Medical University of South Carolina, and has a B.S. from M.I.T. in Molecular Biology. He has conducted and published original research and lectured, supervised, and mentored medical students, residents, and fellows in all psychiatric specialties. He has been qualified as an expert witness in local, state, and federal courts. He has held leadership positions in academic medicine and professional organizations. He ran a start-up company to develop a medical device he invented and patented.

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Consulting Expert Witness, Syracuse University Law School
Medical University of South Carolina, Doctor of Medicine
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, BS in Biology
American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology Board Certification in Psychiatry and Forensic Psychiatry (2011)
SUNY Upstate Medical University, Fellowship in Forensic Psychiatry
Duke University School of Medicine, Resident in Psychiatry
Knoll JL and Kaufman AR. Suicide in Correctional Settings: Epidemiology, Risk Assessment, and Prevention. Principles and Practice of Forensic Psychiatry edited by Richard Rosner, 3rd edition, 2017.
Way BB, Kaufman AR, Knoll JL, Chlebowski, S: Suicidal Ideation among Inmate-Patients in State Prison: Prevalence, Reluctance to Report, and Treatment Preferences. Behavioral Science and the Law, 31(2): 230-8, 2013.
Kaufman AR, Way BB, Suardi E: Forty Years after Jackson v. Indiana. States’ Compliance with “Reasonable Period of Time” Ruling. Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law, 40:261-5, 2012.
Kaufman AR, Knoll JL, Way BB, Leonard C, Widroff J: Survey of Forensic Mental Health Experts on Pro Se Competence After Indiana v. Edwards: Towards an Evidence-Based Pro Se Competency Standard. Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law, 39:565-70, 2011.
Knoll JL, Leonard C, Kaufman AR, Way BB: A Pilot Survey of Trial Court Judges’ Opinions on Pro Se Competence after Indiana v. Edwards. Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law, 38:536-9, 2010.
Kaufman AR, Way B: North Carolina Resident Psychiatrists Knowledge of the Commitment Statutes: Do They Stray from the Legal Standard in the Hypothetical Application of Involuntary Commitment Criteria? Psychiatric Quarterly, 2010; 81(4): p.363.
Kaufman, AR: More on DSM-5: Will “Cross-Cutting” Butcher Clinical Psychiatry. Correctional Mental Health Report, 2010; 12(2): p. 21.
Kaufman AR: Are Psychiatrists Lexa-Professionals? Correctional Mental Health Report, 2010; 11(5): p. 71
Kaufman AR: Should We Use Law Enforcement for Emergency Transportation of People With Mental Illness? American Journal of Psychiatry 2007; 164(3): Residents’ Journal p. 3

The rest / Re: The off topic off topic thread
« on: August 02, 2020, 05:30:33 AM »
Trump is part of the Deep State that he is supposedly fighting against.

<removed link to conspiracy site - BK>

Conserved and host-specific features of influenza virion architecture

<removed link to conspiracy video - BK>

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 01, 2020, 05:46:21 AM »
I am on moderation because I questioned the scientifically bankrupt Germ Theory of Disease espoused by the fraudulent Pasteur who was favourved by the elite over the greatest scientist of all time Antoine Bechamp (Terrain Theory)

Bechamp or Pastuer ? A Lost Chapter in the History of Biology.

Only 2% of our DNA is human - we are holobionts hosting trillions of micro-organisms - we have 320,000 endogenous viruses which our bodies use for healing events -


I believe AI has affected me personally.

Several Bookmaker Companies have banned/restricted my betting probably from patterns picked up by AI.

I'm only semi-professional, so there wasn't really significant money involved.

Betting Companies are basically technology companies.

Science / Re: Magnitude of future warming
« on: June 18, 2020, 03:24:56 AM »
In my opinion based on following climate change since the 70s is that ECS, like the uncertainty of the preindustrial baseline, is a tool for obfuscation.

Why the doubling of co2, what is magical about that standard ?

After Copenhagen, I became a raging conspiracy theorist, leading me to discover many inconvenient truths in many areas besides CC.

But overall the momentum of industrial civilisation just overwhelms everything.

So I am a rational doomist because the situation is irreversible.

Anecdotally we have had clear unusually chilly nights in southern Australia, consistent with the effect of less aerosols in the atmosphere.

Consequences / Re: Global Surface Air Temperatures
« on: June 08, 2020, 01:57:25 AM »
This is still my favorite visual of climate change.
Large online version

Click to play

Add 1750 to 1850-1900 and we probably have already breached 1.5C

PS We were heading into a cool phase so the actual forcing is substantially higher.

The rest / Re: Cannabis and Hemp
« on: June 04, 2020, 01:45:01 PM »
The CB1 Receptor and the Evolution of Humanity, Past, Present and Future

Dr. Robert J. Melamede talks about the "physics of life"

The rest / Re: Cannabis and Hemp
« on: June 04, 2020, 09:31:01 AM »

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: June 01, 2020, 06:48:46 AM »
Who burnt down the police station in Minneapolis ?

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: May 30, 2020, 03:13:01 PM »
Whatever the answers to those questions are, 99.9% of the protesters are not arsonists. Period. They have every right to be outraged.

Protests are warranted but may be hijacked to usher in military intervention in civil society.

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: May 30, 2020, 09:45:22 AM »
Who burnt down the police station ?
Is there any vision ?
Was it protestors or agents provocateur ?

Consequences / Re: Temperature signals from Covid-19
« on: May 27, 2020, 06:42:36 AM »
The lessening of aerosol masking leads to less clouds which causes higher temps during the day and lower temps at night.

Do the night's decrease temp partially cancel the higher day temps ?

Giving us a misleading picture.

Temperatures are read 4 times per 24 hours at both GFS and CSFR, so we cover both day and night temps.
Do you want to claim that the cooling effect from the diminished aerosols during nighttime is stronger, than the warming effect during daytime?
What's the theory behind that?

Just wanted to know if possible extra night coldness affects the mean temp and if it is relevant to the discussion.

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