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Title: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 21, 2017, 04:09:02 AM
Evidence of the Trump administration's assault on science is already documented in several threads here, but now that he's President, and the science melt season proper has started, it seems appropriate to keep a record.

Within moments of yesterday's inauguration, all references to combating climate change disappeared from the White House website [https://www.whitehouse.gov]. A search for "climate" returns three results:

An America First Energy Plan | whitehouse.gov
www.whitehouse.gov/america-first-energy (http://www.whitehouse.gov/america-first-energy)
...and unnecessary policies such as the Climate Action Plan and the Waters of the
Lou Henry Hoover | whitehouse.gov
www.whitehouse.gov/1600/first-ladies/louhoover (http://www.whitehouse.gov/1600/first-ladies/louhoover)
Charles D. Henry, decided that the climate of southern California would favor
Mamie Geneva Doud Eisenhower | whitehouse.gov
www.whitehouse.gov/1600/first-ladies/mamieeisenhower (http://www.whitehouse.gov/1600/first-ladies/mamieeisenhower)
...visits to relatives in the milder climate of San Antonio, Texas. There, in 1915
The page that once detailed the potential consequences of climate change was replaced by a page entitled, "An America First Energy Plan." which vows to eliminate “harmful and unnecessary policies” such as the Climate Action Plan and the Waters of the United States rule.

Thus the new administration is committing to a reduction in policy in place of a reduction in emissions.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: logicmanPatrick on January 21, 2017, 04:26:53 AM
Welcome to the Wipe House (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/20/trump_wipes_whitehousegov/)  but  Archive.org is your friend (http://web.archive.org/web/*/whitehouse.gov).  See e.g.  this page on climate policy with free pdf file. (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-record/climate)

Download pages like crazy!  Tommorow, Trump may nuke the wayback machine.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: logicmanPatrick on January 21, 2017, 04:49:12 AM
Update: Obama web pages archived at https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/ (https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/)

hat tip to http://www.snopes.com/white-house-web-site-trump-changes/ (http://www.snopes.com/white-house-web-site-trump-changes/)

But I would still download and save stuff.  "Accidents" happen, or so I am told.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 21, 2017, 04:55:37 AM
Climate change marches on and science never dies.  Screw them all... They will get their comeuppance....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 21, 2017, 05:50:00 AM
Update: Obama web pages archived at https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/ (https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/)

hat tip to http://www.snopes.com/white-house-web-site-trump-changes/ (http://www.snopes.com/white-house-web-site-trump-changes/)

But I would still download and save stuff.  "Accidents" happen, or so I am told.

Fair play to Snopes. It notes that "Whitehouse.gov is sparsely populated". And legacy content will indeed live on in the ObamaWhiteHouse.gov site. It'll be interesting to see if they become competing poles of information.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 21, 2017, 12:36:19 PM
To be honest we've become used to Politicians spouting rhetoric then doing very little about it.  Obama was actually the opposite on Climate Change, his rhetoric was low, initially, but his actions were high.

Sadly, with Trump, what you see is what you get.  He told people what he was going to do and now he's doing it.  How shocking is that???

There is hope though, for those who think that destroying the likes of Trump is hopeful, in the article, yesterday, on the Washington Post where they discussed the likely attempts to impeach Trump over his refusal to sell of his business interests just to become president of the US.

I've said this consistently for more than a decade now and very few in the Climate Lobby want to listen.

You do not tax people into submission.  You do not look like a tree hugger who wants to take the population back to candles and smallholding.  You do not constantly take away people's choices on energy and replace it with a lack of choice.

If you do, you get Trump, you get Brexit, the little person (not the activist and not even the intelligent or aware), stands up and uses that most dangerous of things; a vote.

Once you have pushed and bullied the little person into using that vote, then they will continue to use that vote until they think they have buried you.

The only possible way out of this mess is to do what I advocated right from the beginning.

Do not Price Carbon out of the Market.  Produce OTE for renewables.  Make it worth More than carbon to switch.

Do not produce CFL's which are poisonous, shoddily made and very little longer lasting than an incandescent bulb and produces poor quality light; then tell people that it's "good" because it uses 30% less electricity.  LED's were always the way and their potential is way greater than the incandescent bulbs.  But, hey, CFL is there now and we're never going to get rid of it.

If you want businesses to go where they need to go, you do not punish them into submission.  You lead them to opportunity.  Because they will always trend to the easiest and best profit regardless to the damage it is doing the liveable biosphere.

We have reaped what we sowed.  Now we need to find a way of turning it around, properly, so that we have a sustainable path (politically), to a sustainable climate and a sustainable biosphere.

I spend a lot of time saying "I told you so".  It's not a place I like being in times like this.  But it is what it is.

This is another dark day out of many dark days on the way to climate Armageddon.  Hopefully we will learn something from it.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: magnamentis on January 21, 2017, 01:32:32 PM
Sadly, with Trump, what you see is what you get.  He told people what he was going to do and now he's doing it.  How shocking is that???

a good point. people are so much used to all of them uttering one lie after an other, especially while campaigning, that probably not many took his verbal excesses for real. while the most stupid fellow humans will still acclaim now, i'm quite sure that some voters who voted for that guy are starting get a bad gut-feeling. at least i hope so :-)

you get what you see is theoretically exactly my way and what i advertise all over the place whenever i can, but of course it's necessary to LOOK carefully, so to SEE something to make appropriate decisions and most people are blindly stumbling through there "EGO-CENTERED" live with mostly low level instincts driven interest. we all know the story about the sheep following their lead over the cliff and we are animals with the urge to belong to a group after all. the only difference is the capability, the willingness to reflect on what we are doing and even more difficult, to overcome our lower instincts in favour of what we think is right.

considering how few that leaves who at least do their best to do things right according to their best knowledge, we are where we are now, again, what we see (know) is what we get, just that it's not opportune nowadays to name things, hypocrisy is "TRUMP" while this is probably one of the things which the man with that name is not LOL
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 21, 2017, 02:03:00 PM
...
You do not constantly take away people's choices on energy and replace it with a lack of choice...

Meaning? What energy choices have been taken away?...
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: wili on January 21, 2017, 05:50:12 PM
Trump just canceled National Park Service's twitter account because they showed how poorly attended his inauguration. The censorship and pettiness has begun. And of course this hinders NSPs ability to rally support when he starts mountaintop removal and other destructive extractive activities.

The energy plan is called 'American First' an old (and current) US Nazi Party slogan.

We in the US are now living in a one-party fascist state
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: logicmanPatrick on January 21, 2017, 09:15:45 PM
Trump just canceled National Park Service's twitter account because they showed how poorly attended his inauguration. The censorship and pettiness has begun. And of course this hinders NSPs ability to rally support when he starts mountaintop removal and other destructive extractive activities.

The energy plan is called 'American First' an old (and current) US Nazi Party slogan.

We in the US are now living in a one-party fascist state

Twitter restored, apparently, but this is a very odd reason for deleting posts -

National Park Service spokesman Thomas Crosson declined to comment on the tweeting ban, according to The Post. But he said that it is against Park Service policy to estimate the size of crowds at events, because they are often inaccurate.

 thenewstribune.com (http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/article127890279.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: MrVisible on January 21, 2017, 09:21:12 PM
Steve Bannon, Chief Strategist to President Donald Trump and co-author of yesterday's inaugural address, used to be in charge of the Biosphere 2 project (http://motherboard.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-strange-history-of-steve-bannon-and-the-biosphere-2-experiment).

"A lot of the scientists who are studying global change and studying the effects of greenhouse gases, many of them feel that the Earth's atmosphere in 100 years is what Biosphere 2's atmosphere is today. We have extraordinarily high CO2, we have very high nitrous oxide, we have high methane. And we have lower oxygen content. So the power of this place is allowing those scientists who are really involved in the study of global change, and which, in the outside world or Biosphere 1, really have to work with just computer simulation, this actually allows them to study and monitor the impact of enhanced CO2 and other greenhouse gases on humans, plants, and animals."

He went on to found the climate-change denying Breitbart network, and leveraged that to put Trump in the Presidency.

These aren't people who don't believe in climate change. These are people who are using climate change denial as a position of political advantage. It gives them access to a huge bloc of voters who are easily swayed.

Just remember that when they claim not to believe in climate change, they're lying. It calls for different tactics.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 21, 2017, 10:51:36 PM
Meaning? What energy choices have been taken away?...

It is always useful to know the other side of the argument.  Because what we know is to come, in the next few decades, is less important to the masses than what is coming tomorrow.

So when we talk about choices we need to see how people who are not yet convinced about clean power see (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/lost-electricity-generation-capacity-7x-higher-epa-estimates).

Then when you look at the real time generation/demand figures (http://www.eia.gov/beta/realtime_grid/#/summary/demand?end=20170121&start=20161221) people start to get worried.

Then when you factor in that coal provides 41% of US power generation and the sum total of all renewables in the country comes to 14.3% (http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/articles/2014/08/us-renewable-electrical-generation-hits-14-3-percent.html) people worry even more.  Especially they worry that in deep winter or high summer there simply won't be the power available for the lives they expect.

That is taking away choices and no matter how needed it is, no matter how warranted it is, unless a clear and viable strategy evolves to show them how they are going to get the same power today and more power in the future, for the same cost base, then they see it as a reduction in choice.

Not pretty is it?  It is what brings people like Trump to power.  Obama did a lot but explained less.  He made things happen but did not give options, just outcomes.

So long as people don't have a vote that doesn't matter. Witness the EU commission and council of ministers and what they have done on climate.  When people do have a vote, the way you present things really does matter.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 22, 2017, 12:13:12 AM
Nobody is taking away coal. Markets decided.  It becomes more expensive vs natural gas since natural gas combined cyclebhas become so much more efficient and cheaper. If solar becomes much cheaper it will naturally increase in capacity. If a town or city wants a coal boiler go ahead. Spend more money.
 
That is why coal has declined... Same for nuclear and other choices...
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: logicmanPatrick on January 22, 2017, 06:54:07 PM
Fearing White House Purge Of Climate Science, Scientists Frantically Copying Data
 (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2017/01/22/white-house-begins-purging-climate-change-science/#2a7fd0656409)

In 2014, the Military Advisory Board came out with a report, called National Security and the Accelerating Risks of Climate Change, that discusses what the military sees as the threats of climate change and the actions to be taken to mitigate them:

“The potential security ramifications of global climate change should be serving as catalysts for cooperation and change. Instead, climate change impacts are already accelerating instability in vulnerable areas of the world and are serving as catalysts for conflict.”

<<Oops, this website was also taken down, but I did copy the information>>

Get that report from archive.org (http://web.archive.org/web/20150310213615/http://www.cna.org/reports/accelerating-risks) before Trump's team torpedos it completely.

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 23, 2017, 01:06:49 AM
Nobody is taking away coal. Markets decided. 

It helps if you actually read the linked articles.  Because, believe me, those shouting loudest do read them.  So here are the relevant points of the "first" (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/lost-electricity-generation-capacity-7x-higher-epa-estimates) article I linked.

Power plants generating 72 gigawatts (GW) of electricity in 37 states have either closed or are scheduled to shut their doors to comply with Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) regulations

The loss of generating capacity is “over seven times the amount originally predicted by EPA modeling,”

“Originally, EPA calculated that only 9.5 GW of electrical generating capacity would close as a result of its MATS (Mercury and Air Toxics Standard) and CSAPR (Cross State Air Pollution Rule) rules,”

Before President Obama’s newly proposed [carbon dioxide] regulations on existing power plants even begin to take effect, however, it is clear that actual number will now be much higher,”
(bold and underline are mine)

Over 94 percent of the closures involve coal-fired power plants, which currently provide one-fifth of the nation’s electricity, even though coal was the only fuel that was able to keep up with the higher demand during last January's polar vortex.

Coal accounts for the majority (41 percent) of the fuel generated for PJM's section of the grid, followed by nuclear (18 percent), natural gas (16 percent), and oil (6 percent)

People read this stuff.  They say "why the hell are you taking my energy away and replacing it with renewable crap".

Enacting laws and directives to remove energy from the grid, without a coherent plan which replaces that energy with the same, or preferably more" energy from a source which is cleaner, is viewed as taking away people's energy choice.

I'm just the messenger.  Shoot me if you want, but, please, don't ignore the articles I link then spout something, unsubstantiated, which is not true.  That's Trump's job.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 23, 2017, 01:39:46 AM
Look, if you like eating mercury laden fish, go ahead keep polluting plants open. Or if you like your NOx and SOx in your air.

If nothing else EPA is severely understaffed to monitor what needs monitoring.

We should have never installed scrubbers anywhere then because that reduces people's choices. Welcome back acid rain because we need our energy and our choices. Seriously ?

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: sidd on January 23, 2017, 01:45:06 AM
If indeed coal plant closures were affecting grid reliability, i do not see it in the prices at PJM or the other markets. In fact i see utilities rushing to put in more solar, wind, natgas and powering/repowering hydro.

coal is dead. utilities recognize this already.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 23, 2017, 02:09:53 AM
I think that one issue that is worth noting is that the US justice system is an adversarial system, much like the currently polarized US political system has become.  And in the US justice system (which Donald Trump is well practiced at manipulating) the two opposing sides are allowed to present lies ('alternate facts') for the jury to sift through.  Thus just as Mitch McConnell was able to circumvent the US Constitution by refusing to give Obama's Supreme Count nominee a hearing, without any meaningful consequences from the voters in the last election; it may well be possible for the Trump administration to use 'alternate facts' (to lie) to damage climate science so long as the American voters do not hold the GOP accountable for the consequences of such amoral acts (no matter what science indicates to be the actual facts).

Edit, the linked article entitled: "White House vows to fight media 'tooth and nail' over Trump coverage", is Exhibit A that in the US political system the Trump Administration feels justified in creating 'alternate facts' (lies) to maintain its 'legitimacy' (control of power in a 'democracy').

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-says-media-delegitimizing-trump-says-wont-144814317.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-says-media-delegitimizing-trump-says-wont-144814317.html)

Extract: "The White House vowed on Sunday to fight the news media "tooth and nail" over what it sees as unfair attacks, with a top adviser saying the Trump administration had presented "alternative facts" to counter low inauguration crowd estimates.

On his first full day as president, Trump said he had a "running war" with the media and accused journalists of underestimating the number of people who turned out Friday for his swearing-in.

White House officials made clear no truce was on the horizon on Sunday in television interviews that set a much harsher tone in the traditionally adversarial relationship between the White House and the press corps.

"The point is not the crowd size. The point is the attacks and the attempt to delegitimize this president in one day. And we're not going to sit around and take it," Chief of Staff Reince Priebus said on "Fox News Sunday.""

See also the following linked article entitled: "Trump’s war on the truth"

http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Trump-s-war-on-the-truth-10875671.php (http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Trump-s-war-on-the-truth-10875671.php)

Extract: "President Trump’s White House wasted no time in coming up with a term for its propaganda: “alternative facts.” On his first full day in office, the new president told CIA employees he had a “running war with the media” and then escalated it by accusing journalists of distorting the size of the crowd at his inauguration.

“We caught them in a beauty,” Trump said of the news media, “and I think they’re going to pay a big price.”

Trump also made the ludicrous argument that his feud with the intelligence community was a media creation."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 23, 2017, 09:03:01 AM
Look, if you like eating mercury laden fish, go ahead keep polluting plants open. Or if you like your NOx and SOx in your air.

If nothing else EPA is severely understaffed to monitor what needs monitoring.

We should have never installed scrubbers anywhere then because that reduces people's choices. Welcome back acid rain because we need our energy and our choices. Seriously ?

You didn't get the point.  Not One Single Word of it.

It does not matter for one second what I think.  It matters what 51% of the voters think and I'm telling you that the voters see reduction in choices and quality of life (not about eating mercury by the way they don't even see that), from the actions to curb climate change.

I am not discussing the impact of climate change or the coal power itself.  I am discussion the impression the climate mitigation actions have made and the use Trump is making of those impressions.

There is no point in discussing this further if you keep throwing things at me that I have known for 25 years instead of reading and understanding what I have said.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 23, 2017, 09:11:05 AM
If indeed coal plant closures were affecting grid reliability, i do not see it in the prices at PJM or the other markets. In fact i see utilities rushing to put in more solar, wind, natgas and powering/repowering hydro.

coal is dead. utilities recognize this already.

Natural Gas from Fracking has  become the cheapest form of energy there is, currently.  So it is the fastest growing form of power generation, just as it was in the UK when the North Sea oil fields started producing huge quantities of cheap natural gas.

Renewables are 13% of the grid after huge government investment in pushing the renewable energy agenda.  Natural Gas has grown faster and is still a net CO2 producer.

If you take your viewpoint offline for a second and see it from the viewpoint of the man in the street who could give a damn about the slow moving climate change, you see that after 20 years renewables have only gone 13% of the grid.  Yet in the next decade or so they expect to lose 41% of the grid powered by coal (should the restrictions come into effect that Obama signed).

Is it any wonder that they are voting to halt this action?  I'm not surprised.  It is self destructive action from a population that should be clamouring for coal to be replaced wholesale by clean or cleaner energy.  I may not agree with them but I totally understand their viewpoint from their narrow view of reality.

This whole position of mine is not about what you or I believe or what you or I think about what is happening.  It is about what the administration has communicated and what the person on the street sees.

Until we up our game and the climate aware administration ups their game, then Trump's will be voted in.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 23, 2017, 05:38:41 PM
Will Fowler:  Trump administration doesn't just want to restrict the EPA now they want to cripple it permanently. Deeply alarming

The 1 thing: Trump's first acts
Big plans for EPA

Super Swan got his hands on the Trump team's "Agency Action" plan for the EPA. It's a tightly-held document that fleshes out Trump's campaign promises to gut the agency. It's the handiwork of Myron Ebell, director of the Competitive Enterprise Institute's Center for Energy and Environment. Trump appointed Ebell, a prominent opponent of climate change activists, to lead the EPA transition.

Our takeaway: Environmental Protection Agency is set for an absolute hammering under Trump.

The deets:

—"Potential opportunities for budget reductions": A category that includes $513 million in cuts to the "states and tribal assistance grants" … $193 million in savings from terminating climate programs … $109 million in savings from "environment programs and management."

Listed as initiatives to stop: "Clean Air Act greenhouse gas regulations for new (NSPS) and existing (ESPS or the 'Clean Power' Plan) coal and natural gas power plants … [CAFE] Standards … Clean Water Section 404: Waters of the U.S. Rule (wetlands) … TMDL (Total Maximum Daily Load) for Chesapeake Bay.

"Key opportunities": "Issue an executive order barring EPA from overruling federal/state regulatory/permit decisions unless in clear violation of established law."

Changing the way the EPA uses science: "Unless major reforms of the agency's use of science and economics are achieved, EPA will be able to return to its bad old ways as soon as an establishment administration takes office."
https://www.axios.com/axios-am-2207230091.html (https://www.axios.com/axios-am-2207230091.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 23, 2017, 07:54:55 PM
Back in Obama's first term I spent a lot of time defending Obama and what he was doing on climate.  When the climate lobby were shouting about him not "doing enough" or "saying enough", I was standing up and shouting "who cares get behind him and PUSH".

The end result? As I feared!  Those who don't listen properly and can't be bothered to look only heard "Obama is doing it wrong" and they heard it from "US", not from the corrosive coal lobby.

"Tell them he's doing the right thing" I said.  So, despite us, the climate lobby, he achieved great things.

Then he had to stand down and all those who heard the climate lobby saying Obama was wrong were swayed by Trump and his "Destroying America" platform.

Now where are we?  Spilt milk and tears.  Trump, yet again, has done exactly what he said.

There are times when I really, really detest having to say "I told you so".  This is one of them.

However, on the upside, Trump also promised to the NATO nations who did not put in their 2%; that he would not come to their aid....  Germany, the 4th largest economy in the world and the largest economy in Europe, 1.1%.  When Vlad comes calling I'm sure "we spent it on the budget deficit" will go down really well.  Bring a crocodile tear to my eye that will.

When I say "tell them what your plan is and how you are going to replace coal fired baseload power", I'm seriously NOT joking.  When I say shut up about TAX and talk about opportunity, I'm seriously NOT joking.  When I say shut up about price on carbon and start talking about how "cheap" solar, wind, tidal and geothermal are, I am seriously NOT joking.

Because if we don't change our way of communicating to the individual with a vote, those individuals are going to stampede us off the cliff and we're going to go over with them.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 23, 2017, 08:10:53 PM
Will Fowler:  Trump administration doesn't just want to restrict the EPA now they want to cripple it permanently. Deeply alarming

The related linked article is entitled: "Donald Trump is getting ready to hammer the EPA".

http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/1/23/14356652/trump-epa-regulations (http://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2017/1/23/14356652/trump-epa-regulations)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 04:42:11 AM
Looks like administration muzzling of science on Day 3 isn't unique to the EPA—U.S. Department of Agriculture - Agricultural Research Service also ordered not to share info with the public.
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/823734011943993344 (https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/823734011943993344)

ARS mission: To lead USA towards a better future thru agricultural research https://www.ars.usda.gov/research/programs (https://www.ars.usda.gov/research/programs) & https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/ (https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/)
https://twitter.com/larry_parnell/status/823706429605445632 (https://twitter.com/larry_parnell/status/823706429605445632)

Full mission: ARS conducts research to develop and transfer solutions to agricultural problems of high national priority and provide information access and dissemination to:
1) ensure high-quality, safe food, and other agricultural products; 
2) assess the nutritional needs of Americans; 
3) sustain a competitive agricultural economy;
4) enhance the natural resource base and environment and provide economic opportunities for rural citizens, communities, and society as a whole.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on January 24, 2017, 06:29:37 AM
Thanks sigmetnow for keeping us informed about the extent of denialism in the current US government. I'll assume the black cars will soon be coming for bee farmers complaining about CCD
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 24, 2017, 06:32:33 AM
Myron Ebell, director of the Competitive Enterprise Institute's Center for Energy and Environment.
For those not familiar with Ebell, he was one of seven “climate criminals” wanted for “destroying our future.” according to posters put up by activist groups during the 2015 Paris talks. Not that that means anything, but as a contrarian activist he's been one of the most persistent and well-organised global warming deniers over the years.

More on Ebell's EPA paper at the Independent:

Donald Trump plans to 'reform' the way environmental agency uses science, report claims

Donald Trump is planning to "reform" the way that the Environmental Protection Agency uses science, according to a new report.
The new claim comes just days after the first thing on the new White House was an energy policy that called for the EPA to focus primarily on clean air and water, and not on its climate change activity. That same document didn't mention global warming at all – and neither does any other post on the administration's website.

That same approach appears to have carried on to the changes in the way that the EPA will use science in its work. A new document from inside the Trump camp says that the administration will seek to "reform" how the agency uses information.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/donald-trump-plan-reform-epa-environmental-protection-agency-science-climate-change-report-a7542191.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/donald-trump-plan-reform-epa-environmental-protection-agency-science-climate-change-report-a7542191.html)

The use of language is frightening, redolent of book burning, and Orwellian doublespeak.

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 24, 2017, 06:58:16 AM
Not that this has anything directly to do with science, but it's of a piece:

Trump Declares His Inauguration Date as ‘Day of Patriotic Devotion’

Donald Trump on Friday issued a proclamation declaring January 20, 2017, the day of his inauguration, a “National Day of Patriotic Devotion.” The decree was uploaded to the Federal Register on Monday and spotted by journalist Ken Klippenstein. The document is scheduled for official publication on Tuesday. “I, Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim January 20, 2017, as National Day of Patriotic Devotion, in order to strengthen our bonds to each other and to our country—and to renew the duties of Government to the people,” the decree reads.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/01/23/trump-sets-day-of-patriotic-devotion.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/01/23/trump-sets-day-of-patriotic-devotion.html)

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/01/24/2017-01798/special-observances-national-day-of-patriotic-devotion-proc-9570 (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2017/01/24/2017-01798/special-observances-national-day-of-patriotic-devotion-proc-9570)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on January 24, 2017, 07:06:24 AM
ClimatechangePsychology took a snapshot from the wikipedia page of The new climate change denier head of CIA anticipating much rewrite. Hopefully this gets to be stored outside US too :  http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html (http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 24, 2017, 09:36:54 AM
ClimatechangePsychology took a snapshot from the wikipedia page of The new climate change denier head of CIA anticipating much rewrite. Hopefully this gets to be stored outside US too :  http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html (http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html)
Clearly a very capable man: a mechanical engineer before he became a lawyer, and first in his class at West Point is no small achievement. So, what causes him to reject mainstream science and become a climate contrarian? It just doesn't scan.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 24, 2017, 01:02:12 PM
The music has become louder...

EPA grants frozen : http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5886825be4b0e3a7356b575f?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5886825be4b0e3a7356b575f?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 01:09:54 PM
More on the EPA freeze.  Is dirty the new clean?

Trump Administration Imposes Freeze On EPA Grants and Contracts
The Trump administration has imposed a freeze on grants and contracts by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, a move that could affect a significant part of the agency’s budget allocations and even threaten to disrupt core operations ranging from toxic cleanups to water quality testing, according to records and interviews.

In one email exchange obtained by ProPublica on Monday, an EPA contracting officer concluded a note to a storm water management employee this way:

“Right now we are in a holding pattern. The new EPA administration has asked that all contract and grant awards be temporarily suspended, effective immediately. Until we receive further clarification, this includes task orders and work assignments.”
...
Monday night, Myron Ebell, who ran the EPA transition for the incoming administration, confirmed the basics of the freeze, but said the actions were not unprecedented.

“They’re trying to freeze things to make sure nothing happens they don’t want to have happen, so any regulations going forward, contracts, grants, hires, they want to make sure to look at them first,” said Ebell, who returned over the weekend to his position directing energy and global warming policy at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a free-market, industry-aligned group that has long fought the EPA’s growth and influence....
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-administration-imposes-freeze-on-epa-grants-and-contracts (https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-administration-imposes-freeze-on-epa-grants-and-contracts)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 24, 2017, 01:11:55 PM
Climate Change still mentioned at DOE website. How log before it is scrubbed??

https://www.energy.gov/science-innovation/climate-change (https://www.energy.gov/science-innovation/climate-change)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 01:23:32 PM
In this 9-minute video of DT speaking at the start of his "business leaders" meeting yesterday, he mentions "reducing regulations by 75%" to lessen the burdens on manufacturing.

“We want to start making our products again”: President Trump meets with business leaders
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/823539914054782976
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 24, 2017, 01:41:42 PM
In this 9-minute video of DT speaking at the start of his "business leaders" meeting, he mentions "reducing regulations by 75%" to lessen the burdens on manufacturing.

“We want to start making our products again”: President Trump meets with business leaders
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/823539914054782976

No matter what the cost to the environment. Look at the Chinese billionaires. The produced their products, made their money.  Who cares if the population is dying of cancer, asthma and many other ailments. We want some of that too!! They want jobs right...We'll give them some.... /Sarc off


 
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 04:04:06 PM
When your leader is bonkers, don't call attention to yourself.

CDC Cancels Conference on Climate Change and Health
The government's top public health agency has canceled a conference next month on climate change and health but isn't saying why publicly.

But a co-sponsor was told by the Centers for Disease and Prevention that the agency was worried how the conference would be viewed by the Trump administration.
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-cancels-conference-climate-change-health-n711076 (http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-cancels-conference-climate-change-health-n711076)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 04:33:29 PM
Reuters:  BREAKING: Trump, at automaker CEO meeting, cites pledge to cut regulations, says environmentalism is out of control.
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/823898807519809537
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 05:55:52 PM
Every step you take, every move you make, we'll be watching you.

Climate Regulations Under a Watchful Internet Eye
Bracing for a rollback, website run by Columbia Law School alerts any time President Trump or Congress change a rule involving climate change or energy.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/23012017/climate-change-regulations-donald-trump-columbia-law-school
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: ritter on January 24, 2017, 06:43:36 PM
This is just insane. The guy has kids. Is he so hollow that their future means nothing compared to money and power? Sociopath?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 09:15:04 PM
This is just insane. The guy has kids. Is he so hollow that their future means nothing compared to money and power? Sociopath?

I'm thinking dementia, actually.  That would explain the continual lying, forgetting, illogic, and inability to alter his abnormal social behavior (e.g., 3am tweets).
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 09:43:41 PM
@sinderbrand:  Reminder for federal workers getting silence orders this week: here's a secure way to reach the Washington Post:  washingtonpost.com/securedrop/

https://twitter.com/sinderbrand/status/823963818384564224
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 09:47:39 PM
The National Park Service (which is responsible for the parks and monuments in Washington, D.C.) was recently ordered to stop all tweeting (after someone tweeted comparison pics of recent inauguration crowd sizes).  So this is happening:


Eric Holthaus:  The Badlands National Park account is currently engaged in an act of radical political resistance by tweeting —facts and science—

https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/823994490771816449

@kate_sheppard:  I salute you, Badlands National Park tweeter who is probably going to get fired but is going out in style.
https://twitter.com/kate_sheppard/status/823992434992574464


Badlands National Park:  Today, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is higher than at any time in the last 650,000 years. #climate
https://twitter.com/badlandsnps/status/823978872152715265
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 09:59:22 PM
Inside Climate News:  Protesters are heading back to the White House, this time in response to Trump's executive orders on #DAPL and #KXL
https://twitter.com/insideclimate/status/823992543532777472 (https://twitter.com/insideclimate/status/823992543532777472)

350.org: TODAY: Rally at White House against Keystone XL and Dakota Access. facebook.com/events/3740606… #noKXL #noDAPL #resist
https://twitter.com/350/status/823940502894551040 (https://twitter.com/350/status/823940502894551040)

350.org co-founder Bill McKibben issued a statement declaring the moment "a dark day for reason, but we will continue the fight."
Tsunami of Outrage, Vows of Resistance Follow Trump's Pipeline Order
"We will resist this with all of our power and we will continue to build the future the world wants to see," said Greenpeace's Annie Leonard
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/24/tsunami-outrage-vows-resistance-follow-trumps-pipeline-order (http://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/01/24/tsunami-outrage-vows-resistance-follow-trumps-pipeline-order)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 10:08:53 PM
Alex Steffen:  If you don't live in California, you probably aren't hearing about the degree of mobilization happening now. Unlike anything I've ever seen.
  Every single Californian I know isn't just bracing for battle w the Trump gang, they're eager for it—for action and change. Truly inspiring.
https://twitter.com/alexsteffen/status/823984159668346880

@kellygarvy:  @AlexSteffen oh we are mobilizing here in NC!
https://twitter.com/kellygarvy/status/823984425964867584
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Buddy on January 24, 2017, 10:13:06 PM
May need to adjust the title of the thread:

"Trump Administration Assaults on Science, Math, Spanish, Reality, etc...etc....etc..."

 :o

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 24, 2017, 10:15:10 PM
Federal Workers Told To Halt External Communication In First Week Under Trump
Staff have been told to stop talking to Congress and the press.
WASHINGTON ― Multiple federal agencies have told their employees to cease communications with members of Congress and the press, sources have told The Huffington Post.

The freeze has startled aides on the Hill and people at those agencies, who worry that it could abruptly upend current operations and stifle work and discussions that routinely take place between branches of government.

Officials at sub-agencies of the Department of Health and Human Services, for example, have been told not to send “any correspondence to public officials” according to a memo shared with HuffPost. Instead, they have been asked to refer questions to agency leadership until the leadership has had time to meet with incoming White House staff about the new administration’s policies and objectives, according to a congressional official who was also informed of the communications freeze.

An official with the National Institutes of Health told HuffPost after the initial publication of this piece that an email had been sent to the directors of NIH institutes and centers providing guidance from HHS on how to handle new or pending regulation, policy or guidance.

“The HHS guidance instructs HHS Operating Divisions to hold on publishing new rules or guidance in the Federal Register or other public forums and discussing them with public officials until the Administration has had an opportunity to review them,” the official said....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-communication-freeze_us_58878b3ae4b0441a8f7114e2 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-communication-freeze_us_58878b3ae4b0441a8f7114e2)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: ritter on January 24, 2017, 10:23:29 PM
USDA and EPA under gag order. EPA grants frozen--this is really bad if you like clean air and water.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/24/white-house-temporarily-freezes-epa-grants-contracts.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/24/white-house-temporarily-freezes-epa-grants-contracts.html)

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 24, 2017, 10:40:10 PM
Trump seeks 'balance' on climate — spokesman

Robin Bravender

January 23, 2017

E&E News

698 Words

President Trump is looking to "balance" environmental policies with economic growth, his spokesman told reporters today.

         In his first formal press briefing from the White House, Trump spokesman Sean Spicer was asked about the president's plans for addressing climate change.

         "I think he's going to meet with his team, figure out what policies are best for the environment," Spicer said.

He actually said that we a straight face...??


Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 24, 2017, 11:52:53 PM
He actually said that we a straight face...??

Of course he did.  This is not about what we believe or what we know. This is about what he believes.

I must admit that I'm reading through the thread at the manic organisation and focus on Trump and what he's doing.  It's as if people didn't believe he would do what he said.  That they believed he was really a politician even though he is not.

All of this saving of scientific data and organising to oppose Trump in any way should have started the second he won the nomination.  But it seems that everyone was waiting to see if he would do what he said.

For anyone in any doubt, the only way Trump is not going to do what he has promised over the next 4 years is if he is impeached for his refusal to divest his business portfolio.

Best to keep that in mind.

I'm British, not American. So I have, essentially, no influence over him in any way, not even a single vote.

In Britain we're kind of focused on getting out of the EU right now and climate and Trump is taking a back seat except where Trump impacts our negotiations.  I've been telling the Brits I talk to for months now; Trump will do what he says.  They were dubious and expected him to Politick his way through his first 3 months.  Probably the way many Americans have.  After all the 100 day honeymoon is traditional isn't it.

Day1 must have been a pretty big wakeup call.  Day2 even more so.

Trump fully intends that no more state or federal funds will go to promoting climate change actions over business expansion and jobs.  If anyone is in doubt, better to save everything they can now because it's going to be a rough ride.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 25, 2017, 12:09:55 AM
See #40 above. 

Here are the —now deleted— tweets from @BadlandsNPS. As you can see, all statements of objective fact about climate science. Heroic.

https://twitter.com/athertonkd/status/824021109515259904
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 25, 2017, 12:10:34 AM
This is just insane. The guy has kids. Is he so hollow that their future means nothing compared to money and power? Sociopath?

I'm thinking dementia, actually.  That would explain the continual lying, forgetting, illogic, and inability to alter his abnormal social behavior (e.g., 3am tweets).

Per the linked article by Joe Romm is entitled: ""Flawed individuals will victimize you", Trump is almost certainly has Narcissistic Personality Disorder, NPD. The article states that a top FBI profiler classifies Trump as an extreme narcissists, and has very little empathy.

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/10/an-fbi-profiler-explains-trumps-narcissism_partner/ (http://www.salon.com/2016/12/10/an-fbi-profiler-explains-trumps-narcissism_partner/)

Extract: "There are 130 warning signs of the narcissistic personality.  Trump checks off at least 90.

As Navarro told me, "the purpose is to warn people that these traits are fixed and rigid" and that those who possess them in the extreme are a danger to everyone they have power or influence over."

Edit, see also the following linked article about the dark side of emotional intelligence, EI, and narcissists:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/05/when-emotional-intelligence-goes-wrong/389546/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/05/when-emotional-intelligence-goes-wrong/389546/)

Extract: "… scores of researchers have shown how being in touch with feelings—both your own and other people’s—gives you an edge: compared with people who have average EI, those with high EI do better at work, have fewer health problems, and report greater life satisfaction.
There’s a catch, though: other researchers have recently examined what they call “the dark side” of EI, and their findings suggest an unnerving link between understanding people and using them. Last year, a group of Austrian psychologists reported a correlation between EI and narcissism, raising the possibility that narcissists with high EI might use their “charming, interesting, and even seductive” qualities for “malicious purposes,” such as deceiving others. Similarly, a 2014 study linked “narcissistic exploitativeness” with “emotion recognition”—those who were prone to manipulating others were better at reading them."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 25, 2017, 12:14:53 AM
AbruptSLR,

I guess you've never served in the Army....   ;D ;D ;D

That describes 90% of the people I worked alongside there.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 25, 2017, 12:20:01 AM
AbruptSLR,

I guess you've never served in the Army....   ;D ;D ;D

That describes 90% of the people I worked alongside there.

Maybe having extreme narcissistic personality disorder is what makes them dangerous :P
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 25, 2017, 12:49:03 AM
To supplement my earlier post, the linked article is entitled: "Trump is an extreme narcissist, and it only gets worse from here".

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/01/24/trump-extreme-narcissist-and-only-gets-worse-from-here/qsN4papNJY2JGzBveiJnEI/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/01/24/trump-extreme-narcissist-and-only-gets-worse-from-here/qsN4papNJY2JGzBveiJnEI/story.html)

See also:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-first-days-inside-trumps-white-house-fury-tumult-and-a-reboot/2017/01/23/7ceef1b0-e191-11e6-ba11-63c4b4fb5a63_story.html?postshare=191485222707286&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.bca2d7bd873a (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-first-days-inside-trumps-white-house-fury-tumult-and-a-reboot/2017/01/23/7ceef1b0-e191-11e6-ba11-63c4b4fb5a63_story.html?postshare=191485222707286&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.bca2d7bd873a)

&

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/marcia-sirota/extreme-narcissists_b_14295728.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/marcia-sirota/extreme-narcissists_b_14295728.html)

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on January 25, 2017, 12:49:34 AM
ClimatechangePsychology took a snapshot from the wikipedia page of The new climate change denier head of CIA anticipating much rewrite. Hopefully this gets to be stored outside US too :  http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html (http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html)
Clearly a very capable man: a mechanical engineer before he became a lawyer, and first in his class at West Point is no small achievement. So, what causes him to reject mainstream science and become a climate contrarian? It just doesn't scan.

Robert E Lee was #2 in his USMA class, and we know what he was willing to do to the United States.  The Academies are full of exceptional men and women, but there are also plenty of "true believers".
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 25, 2017, 12:53:17 AM
ClimatechangePsychology took a snapshot from the wikipedia page of The new climate change denier head of CIA anticipating much rewrite. Hopefully this gets to be stored outside US too :  http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html (http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html)
Clearly a very capable man: a mechanical engineer before he became a lawyer, and first in his class at West Point is no small achievement. So, what causes him to reject mainstream science and become a climate contrarian? It just doesn't scan.

Robert E Lee was #2 in his USMA class, and we know what he was willing to do to the United States.  The Academies are full of exceptional men and women, but there are also plenty of "true believers".

You have to be true believer by design....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on January 25, 2017, 12:56:24 AM
In this 9-minute video of DT speaking at the start of his "business leaders" meeting yesterday, he mentions "reducing regulations by 75%" to lessen the burdens on manufacturing.

“We want to start making our products again”: President Trump meets with business leaders
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/823539914054782976

Business and corporate America will generally either seize on this opportunity, or drift there with a shrug of metaphorical shoulders, "the government said we could"

As consumers, employees, or share holders, if we observe businesses and corporations turning to environmental degradation (beyond what exists today) based on a loosening controls structure, we need to hold them accountable with our $$ and with our voices.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 25, 2017, 01:01:53 AM
In this 9-minute video of DT speaking at the start of his "business leaders" meeting yesterday, he mentions "reducing regulations by 75%" to lessen the burdens on manufacturing.

“We want to start making our products again”: President Trump meets with business leaders
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/823539914054782976

Business and corporate America will generally either seize on this opportunity, or drift there with a shrug of metaphorical shoulders, "the government said we could"

As consumers, employees, or share holders, if we observe businesses and corporations turning to environmental degradation (beyond what exists today) based on a loosening controls structure, we need to hold them accountable with our $$ and with our voices.

Opportunists maybe. Companies with a long history (or future) will weigh current but also future possible regulations. If they have international operations will also look to EU and Canada/Asia. They won't relax for 4 years only to have to pay bigly in the next change. It will be a long wait and see...
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on January 25, 2017, 01:08:51 AM
It was one thing to control or suppress information in the 1930s or 40s, or even today in say North Korea, but it's an entirely different proposition in the US in 2017.  If the nonsense regarding lies and suppression continues from the new admin, there will likely be a growing set of counter measures and resistance from various sectors of the US.  There is clearly a significant part of the US population that will play along with Dear Leader Trump, but there is a larger contingent that will not roll over, and will push back.  We just need to rise to the challenge, and pick our spots.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on January 25, 2017, 01:13:49 AM
In this 9-minute video of DT speaking at the start of his "business leaders" meeting yesterday, he mentions "reducing regulations by 75%" to lessen the burdens on manufacturing.

“We want to start making our products again”: President Trump meets with business leaders
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/823539914054782976

Business and corporate America will generally either seize on this opportunity, or drift there with a shrug of metaphorical shoulders, "the government said we could"

As consumers, employees, or share holders, if we observe businesses and corporations turning to environmental degradation (beyond what exists today) based on a loosening controls structure, we need to hold them accountable with our $$ and with our voices.

Opportunists maybe. Companies with a long history (or future) will weigh current but also future possible regulations. If they have international operations will also look to EU and Canada/Asia. They won't relax for 4 years only to have to pay bigly in the next change. It will be a long wait and see...

I agree in that large established organizations, with high brand recognition and value, along with internal ethics and values, are much more likely to "do the right thing" WRT to the environment, carbon footprint, and renewables.  If they try otherwise employees will be the first to stand up and object.

We need to worry about the obvious companies, in the FF and energy sectors, mass agriculture and manufacturing, and elsewhere, that are less inclined to operate from a position of values and concern for the environment.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 25, 2017, 01:18:04 AM
In this 9-minute video of DT speaking at the start of his "business leaders" meeting yesterday, he mentions "reducing regulations by 75%" to lessen the burdens on manufacturing.

“We want to start making our products again”: President Trump meets with business leaders
https://twitter.com/cnn/status/823539914054782976

Business and corporate America will generally either seize on this opportunity, or drift there with a shrug of metaphorical shoulders, "the government said we could"

As consumers, employees, or share holders, if we observe businesses and corporations turning to environmental degradation (beyond what exists today) based on a loosening controls structure, we need to hold them accountable with our $$ and with our voices.

Opportunists maybe. Companies with a long history (or future) will weigh current but also future possible regulations. If they have international operations will also look to EU and Canada/Asia. They won't relax for 4 years only to have to pay bigly in the next change. It will be a long wait and see...

I agree in that large established organizations, with high brand recognition and value, along with internal ethics and values, are much more likely to "do the right thing" WRT to the environment, carbon footprint, and renewables.  If they try otherwise employees will be the first to stand up and object.

We need to worry about the obvious companies, in the FF and energy sectors, mass agriculture and manufacturing, and elsewhere, that are less inclined to operate from a position of values and concern for the environment.

If you think that companies fhat you put in the second category like examplr ExxonMobil, do not have ethics and values that are similar to other large corporations ( that you include in the first category ) you are making a big mistake. And they will rise up...
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 25, 2017, 07:09:39 AM
ClimatechangePsychology took a snapshot from the wikipedia page of The new climate change denier head of CIA anticipating much rewrite. Hopefully this gets to be stored outside US too :  http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html (http://climatechangepsychology.blogspot.fi/2017/01/our-new-cia-head-mike-pompeo-tea-party.html)
Clearly a very capable man: a mechanical engineer before he became a lawyer, and first in his class at West Point is no small achievement. So, what causes him to reject mainstream science and become a climate contrarian? It just doesn't scan.

Robert E Lee was #2 in his USMA class, and we know what he was willing to do to the United States.  The Academies are full of exceptional men and women, but there are also plenty of "true believers".
pileus, I think in this case the reason is money. Pompeo went into the pipeline business after the army and is employed by the gas industry. A startling state of affairs, when the man is responsible for providing facts about national security issues.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 25, 2017, 07:12:56 AM
A US national park has posted a series of tweets about climate change that were later deleted.
"Today, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is higher than at any time in the last 650,000 years. #climate," said one of the tweets.
The posts by Badlands National Park in South Dakota were widely shared but had all been removed by Tuesday evening.
The National Park Service shut its own Twitter operation briefly on Friday after an apparent clampdown.
The park service had retweeted photos about turnout at President Donald Trump's inauguration.
But the accounts were reactivated the next day after an apology for "mistaken" retweets.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38740205 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38740205)

Go Badlands.

According to some reports, there now a blanket ban on National Park Service employees communicating with the public. Which, if true, is not only outrageous, but obviously dangerous. [Correction, only by press or social media]
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Cid_Yama on January 25, 2017, 07:32:58 AM
Well, that's it.  No more US climate change information will be forthcoming.

Start at 13:40

All EPA Grants and Contracts Frozen

link (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/trump-actions-affirm-fears-for-environment-862129219774)

EPA gagged

Not just EPA - Dept of Transportation, Dept of the Interior, HHS and the National Institutes of Health, the USDA Agricultural Research Services, National Park Service, etc

Have been told they are no longer even allowed to provide data or information to Congressional offices.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: budmantis on January 25, 2017, 07:43:46 AM
Thanks for the info Cid. The dark side of the force has taken control, with Darth Trumpus as Emperor. Dark times ahead.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 25, 2017, 08:20:58 AM
POLITICS
Sources: Trump Administration Tells EPA To Cut Climate Page From Website (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_588817a5e4b0441a8f71cd2f?)

U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration has instructed the Environmental Protection Agency to remove the climate change page from its website, two agency employees told Reuters, the latest move by the newly minted leadership to erase ex-President Barack Obama’s climate change initiatives.

The employees were notified by EPA officials on Tuesday that the administration had instructed EPA’s communications team to remove the website’s climate change page, which contains links to scientific global warming research, as well as detailed data on emissions. The page could go down as early as Wednesday, the sources said.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 25, 2017, 08:27:05 AM
What US looked like without EPA (https://www.flickr.com/photos/usnationalarchives/collections/72157620729903309/)

The U.S. National Archives' buddy icon   
DOCUMERICA Project by the Environmental Protection Agency
For the Documerica Project (1971-1977), the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) hired freelance photographers to capture images relating to environmental problems, EPA activities, and everyday life in the 1970s.

The U.S. National Archives digitized more than 15,000 photographs from the series Documerica (Local ID 412-DA) and included them in our online catalog. Our Web site has quick catalog search links for featured DOCUMERICA topics, locations, and photographers.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 25, 2017, 11:35:19 AM
https://www.epa.gov/climatechange (https://www.epa.gov/climatechange)

Still here?

Tick....Tok.....Tick....Tok....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 25, 2017, 02:27:32 PM
Elon Musk tweetstorm last night.  These are his tweets/replies:

Elon Musk:  ... This may sound surprising coming from me, but I agree with The Economist. Rex Tillerson has the potential to be an excellent Sec of State.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/824010489449431040 (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/824010489449431040)
... Rex is an exceptionally competent executive, understands geopolitics and knows how to win for his team. His team is now the USA.
... I share The Economist's opinion that he should be given the benefit of the doubt unless his actions prove otherwise
... Tillerson at his confirmation hearing: "I think it’s important that the United States maintain its seat at the table in the conversation
 ... on how to address threats of climate change. They do require a global response."
Tillerson also said that “the risk of climate change does exist” and he believed “action should be taken"
(To @MichaelEMann:) I'm just saying that we should see what happens first. The actions may be surprising.
Rex Tillerson supports a carbon tax. This is what is really needed to move the needle. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-10/watch-elon-musk-agree-with-exxon-time-for-a-carbon-tax (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-10/watch-elon-musk-agree-with-exxon-time-for-a-carbon-tax)


However, Musk also tweeted "Tsk tsk" and "Sigh" -- to no one in particular -- so he may have been on Ambien again. ;D
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on January 25, 2017, 04:26:14 PM
If you think that companies fhat you put in the second category like examplr ExxonMobil, do not have ethics and values that are similar to other large corporations ( that you include in the first category ) you are making a big mistake. And they will rise up...

Indeed, but there will be challenges to the ethics/values of many organizations as these executive orders and then eventually legislation translates through to reality and tangible impacts.  Will orgs "walk the talk" WRT to values, or will they roll over for the sake of expediency and profit, and either wink at or adjust their ethical positioning?  In our information saturated and hyper aware society, you can be sure that employees and consumers will be watching and reacting.

Shortly before the election Tesla changed its mission statement from “to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable transport.” -----> “to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable energy".  This is not a subtle shift.  Missions are different than values/ethics, but the crisp statement is signaling an inherent commitment to renewables and to help move the world away from fossil fuels.  Much coming out of the WH and the cabinet nominees points toward a chilling effect on federal support of renewables, roll backs of efficiency regulations, and a surge in fossil fuel extraction.  Elon Musk can't change his mission statement to adjust to the new WH directives, so by definition Tesla will be expected to work in opposition to the goals of Trump and his cabinet.

Exxon has a long form values and ethics position.  But you only need to read this content from the "Sustainability" section to know that it's intellectually dishonest and meaningless:  "We are committed to addressing the challenge of sustainable development — balancing economic growth, social development and environmental protection so future generations are not compromised by actions taken today."  Physics says that Exxon compromises future generations 24/7 by their daily actions, so there's no reason to believe anything Tillerson says about dealing with climate change.

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 25, 2017, 05:17:48 PM
The linked article is entitled: "EPA Scientists' Work May Face 'Case By Case' Review By Trump Team, Official Says".  This could get worse than McCarthyism; except where environmental and climate scientists get squeezed.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/25/511572169/epa-scientists-work-may-face-case-by-case-review-by-trump-team-official-says (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/25/511572169/epa-scientists-work-may-face-case-by-case-review-by-trump-team-official-says)

Extract: "Scientists at the Environmental Protection Agency who want to publish or present their scientific findings likely will need to have their work reviewed on a "case by case basis" before it can be disseminated, according to a spokesman for the agency's transition team."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 25, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
The linked article is entitled: "Donald Trump's Science Denial Is Becoming National Policy", and it makes it clear that we have so far only seen the tip of the iceberg of Team Trump's anti-science campaign

http://time.com/4646085/donald-trump-science-denial/ (http://time.com/4646085/donald-trump-science-denial/)

Extract: "It isn’t just climate science. Trump may appoint an anti-vaccine activist to run a commission on immunization safety, and an anti-regulation zealot to run the Food and Drug Administration. Trump himself has called the fact that asbestos causes cancer a “con” and even refused to believe the objective scientific reality of drought in California."

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 25, 2017, 05:50:52 PM
See comments #40 and #48 above re Badlands National Park Service twitter account.

BadlandsNPS twitter may have been forced to close, but an unofficial, BadHombreLandsNPS account has opened -- with the recently-deleted tweets -- to continue on.

"Good morning, climate/science allies! Here's a quote from Edward Abbey to get us going this morning. #climate"
https://twitter.com/badhombrenps/status/824224289947844608
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 25, 2017, 06:27:37 PM
Maybe having extreme narcissistic personality disorder is what makes them dangerous :P

No, no, it makes them predictable when given an order... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 25, 2017, 06:28:12 PM
The linked website provides information for a proposed "Scientists' March on Washington".

http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com/ (http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com/)


Extract: "There are certain things that we accept as facts with no alternatives.  The Earth is becoming warmer due to human action.  The diversity of life arose by evolution.  Politicians who devalue expertise risk making decisions that do not reflect reality and must be held accountable.  An American government that ignores science to pursue ideological agendas endangers the world.

 Please bear with us as pull together our mission statement and further details."

Edit, see also:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/316023-scientists-are-planning-their-own-march-on-washington (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/316023-scientists-are-planning-their-own-march-on-washington)

Extract: "A Twitter account that started on Monday has periodically sent out updates and requests for people to get involved."

Edit2, see also:

http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/1/25/14370712/trump-science-gagging-explained (http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/1/25/14370712/trump-science-gagging-explained)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 25, 2017, 06:38:52 PM
RESIST!

USDA lifts gag order: report
The Department of Agriculture has reportedly lifted an order that called for scientists and employees of its research arm not to release any of its work to the public.

After a report that the agency had told staff to stop releasing any "news releases, photos, fact sheets, news feeds, and social media content,” BuzzFeed reported that another memo was sent Tuesday night from a top official for the department’s Agricultural Research Service that the original order should not have been issued and “is hereby rescinded.” ...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316015-agriculture-department-lifts-order-for-lockdown-on-its-research-arm (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316015-agriculture-department-lifts-order-for-lockdown-on-its-research-arm)


EPA spokesman: No plan to take down climate webpages
An Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) spokesman said the Trump administration is not currently planning to take down website content regarding climate change.

Doug Ericksen, spokesman for the so-called beachhead team working to transition the agency to the Trump administration, said officials are reviewing all of the “editorial” parts of the EPA’s website for possible changes. ...
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/316081-epa-spokesman-no-plan-to-take-down-climate-webpages (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/316081-epa-spokesman-no-plan-to-take-down-climate-webpages)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 25, 2017, 06:43:42 PM
Silenced Federal Agencies Violating Their Own Policies
Tuesday marked a flurry of actions by the Trump administration that have cut off some federal scientists from the outside world.

The news, reported by outlets including ProPublica, the Huffington Post, BuzzFeed and the Associated Press, centers around the Environmental Protection Agency and U.S. Department of Agriculture. The outlets reported that there is a ban in place that prohibits scientists from talking to the press and performing outreach via news pages and social media.

The ban violates federal scientific integrity policies that began under the Bush administration and were strengthened during the Obama administration. Those policies are in place to encourage the flow of scientific information between agencies and the taxpayers they serve, free of any political interference. The showdown happening now could be the first of many fights between federal scientists and the Trump administration, which has shown hostility toward science and science-based policy. ...
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/silenced-federal-agencies-are-violating-their-own-policies-21105 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/silenced-federal-agencies-are-violating-their-own-policies-21105)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 25, 2017, 06:57:32 PM
Maybe having extreme narcissistic personality disorder is what makes them dangerous :P

No, no, it makes them predictable when given an order... ::) ::)

We will soon see whether Trump predictably follows Putin's orders ...  :P
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Villabolo on January 25, 2017, 08:04:00 PM
Is there anyone here who is downloading info before it's gone? What exactly are scientists doing to preserve records?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 25, 2017, 09:33:19 PM
Is there anyone here who is downloading info before it's gone? What exactly are scientists doing to preserve records?

The effort is well underway, yes. 
https://www.wired.com/2017/01/rogue-scientists-race-save-climate-data-trump/ (https://www.wired.com/2017/01/rogue-scientists-race-save-climate-data-trump/)

See also the "Trump to eliminate Climate Change research" thread under the Consequences section on this Forum.

These tweets are from yesterday:

Matt Solt:  @EricHolthaus Does #datarefuge need anything from the EPA climate site before it goes down tomorrow? Can scrape through the night

Eric Holthaus:  I think our colleagues at @internetarchive and @UofT secured virtually all of EPA site + data already.
cc: @DataRefuge @bwiggerson

https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/824106097841573888 (https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/824106097841573888)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 25, 2017, 10:20:43 PM
President Trump’s Rejection of Science Represents a Threat to National Security
The President’s attacks on science demand an urgent response.
...In just a few days, Trump has embarked on a systematic effort to discount and obscure concerns over climate and the environment, even as he has opened the door for an industry takeover of public lands. Most shocking, of course, are Trump’s moves to silence federal scientists who work in the public interest on the most pressing issue of our time — even of all time. If climate and environmental scientists aren’t allowed to do their job — understanding our rapidly changing planet and how we can work to lessen the impact of our actions for the benefit of all living things on Earth and then share that knowledge with the public — we are all at risk.
...
The outrage we’re all seeing at these moves is a hopeful sign. This weekend was the largest day of protest in United States history, and for good reason. Already, there are plans for marches in the coming weeks that could bring hundreds of thousands of people back to Washington on behalf of science and the environment. ...
https://psmag.com/trumps-attacks-on-science-represent-a-national-security-threat-b10cc05f7d69
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: logicmanPatrick on January 25, 2017, 11:25:34 PM
Is there anyone here who is downloading info before it's gone? What exactly are scientists doing to preserve records?

On Inauguration Day, a grim rain hammered Los Angeles for most of the morning and into the afternoon, part of a record-setting series of storms that would cause flooding, mudslides, and evacuations across southern California. Meanwhile, in a nondescript Lego-block building housing the department of Graduate Education and Information Studies on the UCLA campus, a diverse group gathered over their laptops for reasons practically as grim.

Inspired by and in conjunction with other “hackathons” at the University of Pennsylvania and the University of Toronto, the group’s mission was to preserve and protect precious scientific data related to climate change and environmental regulation by scraping as much information from the Department of Energy website as time would allow. They called it “a guerrilla archiving event.”

Read more at Paste magazine. (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/01/inside-the-race-to-save-climate-data-in-the-age-of.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: ritter on January 25, 2017, 11:44:07 PM
A McCarthyism-esque Orange Scare? Unbelievable. Except that it is happening in real time.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 25, 2017, 11:59:54 PM
5pm (Eastern U.S. Time): AP News: Trump administration requires studies, data from EPA undergo review by political appointees before public release.

EPA science under scrutiny by Trump political staff
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is mandating that any studies or data from scientists at the Environmental Protection Agency undergo review by political appointees before they can be released to the public.

The communications director for President Donald Trump's transition team at EPA, Doug Ericksen, said Wednesday the review also extends to content on the federal agency's website, including details of scientific evidence showing that the Earth's climate is warming and man-made carbon emissions are to blame.

Former EPA staffers said Wednesday the restrictions imposed under Trump far exceed the practices of past administrations.

Ericksen said no orders have been given to strip mention of climate change from www.epa.gov (http://www.epa.gov) , saying no decisions have yet been made.

We're taking a look at everything on a case-by-case basis, including the web page and whether climate stuff will be taken down," Erickson said in an interview with The Associated Press. "Obviously with a new administration coming in, the transition time, we'll be taking a look at the web pages and the Facebook pages and everything else involved here at EPA."

Asked specifically about scientific data collected by agency scientists, such as routine monitoring of air and water pollution, Ericksen responded, "Everything is subject to review." ...
https://apnews.com/c1423276fb574b07953651a68a082db9/EPA-science-under-scrutiny-by-Trump-political-staff (https://apnews.com/c1423276fb574b07953651a68a082db9/EPA-science-under-scrutiny-by-Trump-political-staff)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 26, 2017, 12:10:05 AM
Jason Mark:  Just got off phone w/ a longtime USFS source: "Ppl are just really freaked out. Basically, it's just fascism, is what it is" #gagorder
https://twitter.com/writerfarmer/status/824387212351401984

The Daily Show comes to film #DataRescuePhilly @DataRefuge @PPEHLab @upennlib
https://twitter.com/auralflaneur/status/824359982485409792

One bit of consolation: In 1+ day, the @ScienceMarchDC Facebook page now has more members than Trump's inauguration attendance.
https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/824388150353022976

There are now at least 14 "rogue" Twitter accounts from federal science agencies:
https://twitter.com/StollmeyerEU/lists/twistance/members
         https://twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/824389711170932736

And another: @AlternativeNWS
"The Unofficial Resistance team of U.S. National Weather Service."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 26, 2017, 02:35:18 AM
See #67 above.

A Brief Chat With Elon Musk About Climate Change, Rex Tillerson, and Donald Trump
Yesterday Elon Musk stunned us (and just about everyone else) by tweeting in support of Rex Tillerson, former CEO of ExxonMobil and likely Secretary of State under the Trump administration. Musk’s public image is that of a tycoon using his influence to innovate towards a techno-utopian future powered by clean energy and complete with human cities on Mars. What could he possibly have in common with a mogul who made his fortune sucking the Earth’s resources dry? We asked him. And today he answered. ...
http://gizmodo.com/a-brief-chat-with-elon-musk-about-climate-change-rex-t-1791620750 (http://gizmodo.com/a-brief-chat-with-elon-musk-about-climate-change-rex-t-1791620750)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 26, 2017, 03:40:15 AM
The linked article is entitled: "Decrying 'post-truth' climate politics, scientists test activist waters", and I must admit that if scientists pull this off well, I will be proud of them, and I will certain join a march in my city.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2017/0125/Decrying-post-truth-climate-politics-scientists-test-activist-waters (http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2017/0125/Decrying-post-truth-climate-politics-scientists-test-activist-waters)

Extract: "Typically, scientists are reluctant to engage in what could be perceived as political activism. But many researchers are now pushing back against what they call unprecedented attacks on climate change research by the Trump administration."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 26, 2017, 02:04:09 PM
Trump And Climate Change: Scientists and Activists Plan Marches in Washington DC
After more than one million people joined the Women's March on Washington and its sister protests, organizers are now planning a Scientists' March on Washington and a “People’s Climate March.”
Climate March

Activists are also planning the People’s Climate March on April 29 in Washington D.C. and across the nation, the Sierra Club announced Wednesday.

“The April 29th march comes in response to widespread outrage against President Trump’s disastrous anti-climate agenda - including his executive orders yesterday advancing the Keystone and Dakota Access pipelines,” said the organization in a statement.

The last People’s Climate March was in 2014 in New York City, where more than 400,000 people gathered. This year’s event will coincide with the end of Trump’s first 100 days in office.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-climate-change-scientists-activists-232105474.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-climate-change-scientists-activists-232105474.html)

Scientists' March on Washington
What is the Scientists' March on Washington
Welcome!  We want to thank you all for your incredible outpouring of support for this march.  We are working to schedule a March for Science on DC and across the United States.  We have not settled on a date yet but will do so as quickly as possible and announce it here.

Although this will start with a march, we hope to use this as a starting point to take a stand for science in politics.  Slashing funding and restricting scientists from communicating their findings (from tax-funded research!) with the public is absurd and cannot be allowed to stand as policy.  This is a non-partisan issue that reaches far beyond people in the STEM fields and should concern anyone who values empirical research and science. 
http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com (http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com)

And here is the link to the Facebook page:  https://www.facebook.com/marchforscience/ (https://www.facebook.com/marchforscience/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 26, 2017, 02:39:47 PM
In response to the new president’s stances on a range of issues, more scientists are preparing to run for political office.
For American science, the next four years look to be challenging. The newly inaugurated President Trump, and many of his Cabinet picks, have repeatedly cast doubt upon the reality of human-made climate change, questioned the repeatedly proven safety of vaccines. Since the inauguration, the administration has already frozen grants and contracts by the Environmental Protection Agency and gagged researchers at the US Department of Agriculture. Many scientists are asking themselves: What can I do?

And the answer from a newly formed group called 314 Action is: Get elected.

The organization, named after the first three digits of pi, is a political action committee that was created to support scientists in running for office. It’s the science version of Emily’s List, which focuses on pro-choice female candidates, or VoteVets, which backs war veterans. “A lot of scientists traditionally feel that science is above politics but we’re seeing that politics is not above getting involved in science,” says founder Shaughnessy Naughton. “We’re losing, and the only way to stop that is to get more people with scientific backgrounds at the table.”
 ...
Early signs are promising. In just two weeks, more than 400 people have signed up to the recruitment form on the organization’s site. They include Jacquelyn Gill from the University of Maine, who studies how prehistoric climate change shaped life on the planet. “If you’d told me a year ago that I would consider running for office, I would have laughed,” she says. “I always fantasized about serving an administration in an advisory capacity, but we now have explicitly anti-science people in office and in the Cabinet. Waiting passively for people to tap me for my expertise won’t be enough.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/thanks-to-trump-scientists-are-planning-to-run-for-office/514229/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/01/thanks-to-trump-scientists-are-planning-to-run-for-office/514229/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Csnavywx on January 26, 2017, 03:31:15 PM
Great! Maybe we can start reducing the number of lawyers in Congress and start replacing them with real people that live in the real world instead of "technical legal land".
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 26, 2017, 03:31:33 PM
Resistance.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NeilT on January 26, 2017, 06:48:31 PM
Did anyone clue into the statement by Trump that he didn’t need “more legislation”; that the US already had enough legislation; that it just needed to be used.

This, essentially, removes Congress and the Senate from the decision process for much of what Trump is trying to do.

Predictable but still not very good news.  Obama was using this for years.  Now the boot is on the other foot.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Villabolo on January 26, 2017, 07:09:06 PM
Sorry if this has been covered before.

Concerning my previous post, I forgot to add, what can non-scientists and non-professionals do to assist in this record saving work? I would like to volunteer but I have no skills with which to do so. Is there anything that I can do no matter how humble it is? I'm not referring to social activism but only record saving.

Also, is there any redundancy in the record saving work? I fear that someone-maybe Russians or the Pentagon-could hack the sites where the data is stored and delete it. I'm thinking of a more decentralized system, with scientists and others storing some of the information on their personal computers.

I am downloading GISStemp anomaly maps for my own use.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on January 26, 2017, 11:48:38 PM
Did anyone clue into the statement by Trump that he didn’t need “more legislation”; that the US already had enough legislation; that it just needed to be used.

This, essentially, removes Congress and the Senate from the decision process for much of what Trump is trying to do.

Predictable but still not very good news.  Obama was using this for years.  Now the boot is on the other foot.

At some point soon there will be actions and policies that go beyond the current flurry of exec orders, where congress will need to legislate.  But yes it's clear Trumpists have contempt for the legislative process.  The courts will also come into play.  Also, from the inaugural transcript Trump did not once mention the constitution...that's also a strong tell. 

WRT Obama, to a large degree his hand was forced by an intransigent GOP led by McConnell.  Otherwise he could do very little.  Executive powers started to inflate under GW Bush, post 9/11.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 27, 2017, 02:45:16 AM
Trump administration silences the Department of Energy’s Sunshot team
President Trump has told the United States Department of Energy Sunshot team that they are not allowed to communicate any information to the public until political appointments are made to review all of said communications per a report from Samantha Page at ThinkProgress.
...
From the Sunshot website,

The U.S. Department of Energy SunShot Initiative is a national effort to support solar energy adoption by making solar energy affordable for all Americans through research and development efforts in collaboration with public and private partners. SunShot funds cooperative research, development, demonstration, and deployment projects by private companies, universities, state and local governments, nonprofit organizations, and national laboratories to drive down the cost of solar electricity.
...
Any information released by the Sunshot group would be of a technical nature that communicates research advancements. The Sunshot team does not research climate change or pollution, which makes the move to silence them even more strange....
https://electrek.co/2017/01/26/trump-silences-the-department-of-energys-sunshot-team/ (https://electrek.co/2017/01/26/trump-silences-the-department-of-energys-sunshot-team/)


Ironically, this was published just yesterday:

SunShot $1 per Watt Solar Cost Goal: Mission Accomplished, Years Ahead of Schedule
The SunShot initiative hoped to reduce the total costs of PV solar energy systems by about 75 percent so that they were cost-competitive with other forms of energy without subsidies before 2020. Chu said that SunShot would work to bring down the cost of solar -- by focusing on four main pillars:

- Technologies for solar cells and arrays
- Power electronics to optimize the performance of the installation
- Improvements in solar manufacturing processes
- Installation, design and permitting for solar energy systems

In fact, steep reductions in system pricing have stemmed not just from modules, but also from price reductions in inverters, trackers and even labor costs. It's only stubborn soft costs such as customer acquisition that have actually risen....
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/Sunshot-1-Per-Watt-Solar-Cost-Goal-Mission-Accomplished-Years-Ahead-of-S (https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/Sunshot-1-Per-Watt-Solar-Cost-Goal-Mission-Accomplished-Years-Ahead-of-S)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 27, 2017, 10:38:40 AM
The linked article is entitled: "The nation’s top scientists can’t get through to Trump — and they’re alarmed".  It looks like the White House is denying access for scientific leaders to even present their case against muzzling science.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/01/26/leaders-of-science-organizations-dismayed-by-trump-administration-moves/?utm_term=.51cb8c1fd134 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/01/26/leaders-of-science-organizations-dismayed-by-trump-administration-moves/?utm_term=.51cb8c1fd134)

Extract: "Leaders of several of the nation's top science organizations say they've been shunned by the Trump administration and are alarmed by signs that the administration will muzzle government researchers and reject the scientific evidence that informs such critical issues as vaccine safety and climate change."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 27, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
The linked article is entitled: "The nation’s top scientists can’t get through to Trump — and they’re alarmed".  It looks like the White House is denying access for scientific leaders to even present their case against muzzling science.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/01/26/leaders-of-science-organizations-dismayed-by-trump-administration-moves/?utm_term=.51cb8c1fd134 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/01/26/leaders-of-science-organizations-dismayed-by-trump-administration-moves/?utm_term=.51cb8c1fd134)

Extract: "Leaders of several of the nation's top science organizations say they've been shunned by the Trump administration and are alarmed by signs that the administration will muzzle government researchers and reject the scientific evidence that informs such critical issues as vaccine safety and climate change."

Maybe time for some multi billionaires philanthropist to get those organizations private....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 27, 2017, 12:51:37 PM
That is a scary thought ASLR..... Policy divorced from science !!! Reverse renaissance....Back to the dark ages...
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: ritter on January 27, 2017, 06:40:55 PM
That is a scary thought ASLR..... Policy divorced from science !!! Reverse renaissance....Back to the dark ages...

And at such a crucial time.

Maybe we could disallow science deniers the use of technology and medicine. If you don't believe in science, you shouldn't be able to participate in all the wonders it has created. I think the problem would become self-correcting quite quickly.  :)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 27, 2017, 06:46:33 PM
That is a scary thought ASLR..... Policy divorced from science !!! Reverse renaissance....Back to the dark ages...

And at such a crucial time.

Maybe we could disallow science deniers the use of technology and medicine. If you don't believe in science, you shouldn't be able to participate in all the wonders it has created. I think the problem would become self-correcting quite quickly.  :)



Or cell phones, internet, airplanes, food....Let em grow their own....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 27, 2017, 08:48:26 PM
All the Laws and Executive Orders Trump Has Signed So Far

A running list of what the Republican-dominated federal government is up to.
This article will be continuously updated throughout 2017 as President Donald Trump signs executive orders and makes bills into laws.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/all-the-laws-and-executive-orders-trump-has-signed-so-far (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/all-the-laws-and-executive-orders-trump-has-signed-so-far)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 28, 2017, 09:25:38 AM
That is a scary thought ASLR..... Policy divorced from science !!! Reverse renaissance....Back to the dark ages...
Thankfully, only in America at this time. The effects of a new dark age in one country would be inconvenient, but not the end of the world. America has more direct means to achieve that.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 28, 2017, 03:02:27 PM
Maybe for those that live outside....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 28, 2017, 04:54:15 PM
Al Gore Revives Climate Summit The CDC Abruptly Canceled
“They tried to cancel this conference but it is going forward anyway,” Gore said.
Former Vice President Al Gore is hosting his own climate change summit after the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention abruptly canceled the one it had been planning for months.

Gore announced Thursday that he’ll hold the Climate & Health Meeting in Atlanta on Feb. 16 with Howard Frumkin, former director of the CDC’s National Center for Environmental Health, and a host of other health and climate groups: the American Public Health Association, The Climate Reality Project, Harvard Global Health Institute and the University of Washington Center for Health and the Global Environment.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/al-gore-climate-health-cdc_us_588a6a2be4b0303c0752b0bc (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/al-gore-climate-health-cdc_us_588a6a2be4b0303c0752b0bc)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 28, 2017, 05:07:51 PM
How 21 kids could keep climate websites from going completely dark
Right now, anxiety is sweeping across the scientific community about the Trump administration's efforts to make climate data disappear.

However, there are now a very special group of 21 young Americans, ages nine to 20, who are throwing a sizable wrench in the Trump administration's plans. Their lawsuit against the federal government and fossil fuel companies seeks to hold them accountable for failing to adequately address human-caused global warming despite widespread knowledge of the risks.

The case, formally known as Juliana v United States, is scheduled to go to trial sometime this year, and has already set groundbreaking legal precedents in the nascent field of climate change law.

On Wednesday, lawyers for the young plaintiffs hit the government and fossil fuel industry with a letter that could make it much harder for the Trump administration to take websites offline without archiving them.

An expansive case

The students' lawyers delivered a legal preservation notice to fossil fuel companies such as ExxonMobil, industry trade associations and the federal government.

Because the case is extremely expansive in scope — it seeks to prove that the government and energy industry knew about the dangers of burning fossil fuels for decades, yet continued to promote a fossil fuel-based energy system — any destruction or hiding of scientific evidence by the Trump administration could threaten the students' ability to make their case.

And if a judge agrees with the kids, taking down the websites without archiving them could lead to monetary and trial penalties for the defendants. Depending on the climate data, some federal laws may restrict the information scrubbing.

"The U.S. Department of Justice and Sidley Austin are required by law to preserve all documents, including electronically stored information, that could be relevant to our 21 youth plaintiffs' case against the Trump Administration,” said Julia Olson, executive director of Our Children’s Trust and attorney for the plaintiffs, in a statement. Sidley Austin is the law firm representing the private sector defendants, which also include trade groups for oil and gas companies.
http://mashable.com/2017/01/26/youth-climate-lawsuit-trump-website-removals/ (http://mashable.com/2017/01/26/youth-climate-lawsuit-trump-website-removals/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 28, 2017, 05:13:26 PM
"We reached out to @AltNatParkSer through Twitter DM today, and learned more about the origins of the account and its future. "

A Conversation With the Rogue National Park Service Twitter Account
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-conversation-with-the-rogue-national-parks-service-twitter (http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-conversation-with-the-rogue-national-parks-service-twitter)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 28, 2017, 06:02:59 PM
Strangling a Huge Climate Policy Machine Won't Be Easy for Trump
If the Trump administration intends to strangle the flow of climate change information produced by the federal bureaucracy, it will be no small task.

The government apparatus of climate policy involves dozens of agencies and offices, as this chart shows, and they spend billions of dollars a year. Their public activities number in the hundreds, from rules and scientific reports to research programs, webinars and internships. Thousands of employees, grant recipients and contractors are engaged in federal climate science, policy and communications.

...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/25012017/climate-change-bureaucracy-epa-donald-trump
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on January 30, 2017, 08:23:25 AM
Elon Musk is getting eviscerated for this travel ban comments.  He risks losing a lot of his good will and legitimacy by normalizing Trump.  Even if he is being rational to stay out of Trump's crosshair's, there will be calls to boycott his brands.  If coastal elites boycott Tesla (and Uber) you know we are in bizarro world. 

Everyone underestimated Trump, but some are not catching on quickly to the depth and passion behind the backlash.  Same with Senator Warren.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 30, 2017, 09:57:24 AM
Musk's posture is indeed an odd one. His market for Tesla cars must be as squarely in liberal territory as it's possible for a mass-market American product to be. Thus we might assume his alignment isn't commercial, since even a large tax cut on a brand that has lost its unique lustre can't be a win in the long run. It opens the market to competitors.

On the other hand, there are his space aspirations...

Or maybe Musk is a social conservative as well as being a scientific rationalist.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on January 30, 2017, 02:28:15 PM
The art of the deal, or according to Donald Trump "lie your ass off until you can sell your sub standard products".  Trump will say anything to get what he wants, a life of white, wealthy privilege has made sure  that he can get away with that. Why would he change now that he is 70 years old and president of the US? He won't.

Elon Musk on the other hand, made his fortune by making products above and beyond the competition. No sleazy lies needed to make his billions. Elon Musk is also on a mission to save the world, he has the closest thing to an actual working solution to climate change and other limits of growth.  He must defend that solution for the sake of all our lives. And thats what he is doing.

Trump needs time before he can assert his power over the US. Having a well respected man like Musk lend him some credibility while he asserts power is a great way to buy some time.  Elon on the other hand is facing the danger of Donald Trump destroying everything. So Trump promises Elon fair treatment and Elon in exchange shows some public support.

Except that Trump is a liar. As soon as Trump asserts his power, he will turn on Elon as easy as he has turned on most people that have ever done business with him. So I think Elon is wrong about trusting Trump.

However as the man holding the only working solution to climate change and a veritable genius I have no other option but to trust that he knows what he is doing.  He must do whatever he needs to do to keep Tesla afloat. As far as I am concern it is a matter of survival. So I'm with Elon, even if Elon is collaborating with a lying fool.

I do worry that others  will abandon Musk and Tesla lose the great support he has enjoyed. Maybe that is exactly Trump's plan to get rid of clean energy to make way for Putin's oil.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on January 30, 2017, 02:48:46 PM
The art of the deal, or according to Donald Trump "lie your ass off until you can sell your sub standard products".  Trump will say anything to get what he wants, a life of white, wealthy privilege has made sure  that he can get away with that. Why would he change now that he is 70 years old and president of the US? He won't.

Elon Musk on the other hand, made his fortune by making products above and beyond the competition. No sleazy lies needed to make his billions. Elon Musk is also on a mission to save the world, he has the closest thing to an actual working solution to climate change and other limits of growth.  He must defend that solution for the sake of all our lives. And thats what he is doing.

Trump needs time before he can assert his power over the US. Having a well respected man like Musk lend him some credibility while he asserts power is a great way to buy some time.  Elon on the other hand is facing the danger of Donald Trump destroying everything. So Trump promises Elon fair treatment and Elon in exchange shows some public support.

Except that Trump is a liar. As soon as Trump asserts his power, he will turn on Elon as easy as he has turned on most people that have ever done business with him. So I think Elon is wrong about trusting Trump.

However as the man holding the only working solution to climate change and a veritable genius I have no other option but to trust that he knows what he is doing.  He must do whatever he needs to do to keep Tesla afloat. As far as I am concern it is a matter of survival. So I'm with Elon, even if Elon is collaborating with a lying fool.

I do worry that others  will abandon Musk and Tesla lose the great support he has enjoyed. Maybe that is exactly Trump's plan to get rid of clean energy to make way for Putin's oil.

Putin does not have that much oil to make way for....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on January 30, 2017, 03:01:05 PM
Putin does not have that much oil to make way for....

All he needs is for the US to drop the quest for efficiency and alternative energy for a few years. Once the US has no way to maintain the economy with local or allied energy, he has all the power over the US. To some extent he already does.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on January 30, 2017, 05:18:19 PM
The linked article discusses the Delete Uber movement and the likelihood that other tech companies will be targeted for boycott if they work actively with or are silent towards Trump.  IMO this is going to grow like a tsunami and the type of intellectual gymnastics being done by Musk and others will sweep them away.  Boycotts are not always well thought out, but even so it's reflecting the depth of the distaste and anger towards Trump.  The US is quickly heading towards a breaking point.

One other dynamic to watch soon is to what extent does Trump target the H1B visa program, which is the main pipeline of talent for Silicon Valley and Seattle tech talent, and elsewhere.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/29/deleteuber-s-creator-resist-trump-or-pay-a-price.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/29/deleteuber-s-creator-resist-trump-or-pay-a-price.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: magnamentis on January 31, 2017, 10:13:59 AM
This is just insane. The guy has kids. Is he so hollow that their future means nothing compared to money and power? Sociopath?

i think he has kids to show of ( one has kids ) and because he like to f....k not the other way around LOL

the pic is double posted, just fits in here as well. ;) ???
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on January 31, 2017, 06:32:41 PM
Elon Musk on the other hand, made his fortune by making products above and beyond the competition. No sleazy lies needed to make his billions.
That's partially true. Like so many of the big dot.com successes, x.com and PayPal succeeded by being in the right place at the right time, particularly by being brought by eBay. Plenty of the early dot.com billionaires were essentially lottery winners. Tesla on the other hand is an exceptional achievement.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: magnamentis on January 31, 2017, 06:40:30 PM
Elon Musk on the other hand, made his fortune by making products above and beyond the competition. No sleazy lies needed to make his billions.
That's partially true. Like so many of the big dot.com successes, x.com and PayPal succeeded by being in the right place at the right time, particularly by being brought by eBay. Plenty of the early dot.com billionaires were essentially lottery winners. Tesla on the other hand is an exceptional achievement.

technically it's an achievement, i love it really, but economically this remains to be proven yet. there are many billions of creditlines and capital investments to be paid back (or lost) one day in the not so far future.

not saying it's an econ. fail, just learned not to praise the day before midnight :-)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on January 31, 2017, 08:59:44 PM
Climate denial is dead!   Long live climate denial!
A good summation of where we are now (in the U.S.). 
By Michael Mann.

Climate change denial is not dead
The era of climate change denial is over. Rejection of the unequivocal scientific evidence that carbon emissions from the burning of fossil fuels are warming the planet and changing our climate is no longer socially acceptable. Only the most fringe of politicians now disputes the overwhelming scientific consensus that climate change is real and human-caused, and they are largely ignored.

So why dignify the notion of climate change denial by writing about it?

Such was the criticism I received from many well-meaning fellow climate scientists last fall after I published my latest book, “The Madhouse Effect: How Climate Change Denial Is Threatening Our Planet, Destroying Our Politics, and Driving Us Crazy,” co-authored with Washington Post editorial cartoonist Tom Toles.

I wish the critics had been right. But of course, they weren’t.

Our book couldn’t seem any more prophetic now. For we are firmly back in the madhouse. Climate change denial is once again in vogue in Washington, D.C. As of Jan. 20, it is now the official policy of our executive branch....
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/317102-climate-denial-is-dead-long-live-climate-denial (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/energy-environment/317102-climate-denial-is-dead-long-live-climate-denial)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on January 31, 2017, 09:16:42 PM
The linked article is entitled: "The future of NOAA, the world’s largest repository of climate data, is now in the hands of a climate-change denier".  It is good to know who the enemy is so that one can keep an eye on him (Kenneth Haapala).

https://qz.com/899450/trump-kenneth-haapala-and-wilbur-ross-the-future-of-noaa-the-worlds-largest-repository-of-climate-data-is-now-in-the-hands-of-a-climate-change-denier/

Extract: "“The archive spans data that goes well over a hundred years,” Scott Stephens, a NOAA meteorologist, tells Quartz. “Especially for the US, there’s data that goes back almost to Independence.”

Now, all that is in the hands of Kenneth Haapala, selected by US president Donald Trump to help appoint top administrators at NOAA. Haapala serves on the transition team for the US Department of Commerce, which oversees the agency. He is also an unabashed climate-change denier.

Haapala is a policy expert at the Heartland Institute, a conservative group that has equated belief in climate change with terrorism and mass murder."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on February 01, 2017, 09:17:33 AM
In order to get this thread a bit more scientific I'll present some exploration on the name Haapala: www.karjalansivistysseura.fi/sampo/fi/content/uhtuan-haapalan-afanasjev-suku (http://www.karjalansivistysseura.fi/sampo/fi/content/uhtuan-haapalan-afanasjev-suku) so Kenneths family might have been partly russian or at least had another name during russian rule.

There are several families calling themselves Haapala in Finland, though. (f.e. http://www.raunohaapala.com/haapalan-suku (http://www.raunohaapala.com/haapalan-suku) ) Quick search on genealogies revealed at least three families, and by the number of houses called thus (over 400) there are several others. The name itself means Aspen-place, as in the tree Populus tremula.

'Kenneth' is an anglicised form of two entirely different Gaelic names, Cainnech and Cináed (Wikipedia). so I'd throw a guess his mothers' family is Irish, Scotch or Welsh originally, and not from USA. I'd say he needs to show his birth certificate before he can be allowed in the position. I bet it stands 'Cainnech Aspenacre' there.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on February 02, 2017, 04:19:09 AM
Per the linked article the date for the March for Science (to protest against Team Trump's assaults on Science) is April 22 – Earth Day:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/science-march-earth-day-trnd/ (http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/science-march-earth-day-trnd/)

Extract: “The group behind the March for Science in Washington just announced in a tweet that they will rally on April 22 -- Earth Day. “
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on February 02, 2017, 01:05:16 PM
GOP House votes to reject Obama administration stream protection rule

Another opportunity by Prez Trumpf
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on February 02, 2017, 05:47:17 PM
The linked article is entitled: "Why Environmentalists Are So Worried About Trump's Supreme Court Pick".  Essentially getting Neil Gorsuch appointed to the Supreme Court represents an assault by Trump against climate science:

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/01022017/neil-gorsuch-donald-trump-supreme-court-climate-change

Extract: "Neil Gorsuch is a steadfast foe of the 'Chevron' standard, a pillar of modern regulatory law that matters greatly to climate change advocates.

That principle says courts should defer to federal regulatory agencies when the regulators are carrying out laws that are ambiguous. In contrast to Gorsuch, Merrick Garland, nominated last year by Obama but stymied by Senate Republicans, adhered closely to the standard.

Chevron is one of the pillars of modern regulatory law, and it matters greatly to climate change activists because it has provided the Environmental Protection Agency considerable leeway in using the Clean Air Act to control carbon dioxide pollution.

Its significance will be stark when the Supreme Court considers the fate of the Clean Power Plan in the next year or so."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on February 02, 2017, 05:53:33 PM
The link leads to a tracker entitled: "Trump Issues Statement Confirming That He Will Approve Congressional Repeal of BLM Methane Rule and Other Regulations"; which indicates that Trump promises to sign the bill to repeal Obama's Bureau of Land Management methane emission rules.  This is a significant assault on climate science:

http://columbiaclimatelaw.com/climate-deregulation-tracker/4205/ (http://columbiaclimatelaw.com/climate-deregulation-tracker/4205/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on February 02, 2017, 06:04:21 PM
The linked article is entitled: "Trump's election is prompting more scientists to run for public office."  It indicates that many scientists are sufficiently concerned about Trump's assault on science that they are willing to become politicians in order to more effectively fight back.

http://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-election-is-prompting-more-scientists-to-run-for-public-office-2017-1 (http://www.businessinsider.com/trumps-election-is-prompting-more-scientists-to-run-for-public-office-2017-1)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on February 03, 2017, 02:52:56 AM
Elon Musk got a lot of flak when he tweeted that he would maintain his position on the President's Advisory Forum, in order to attempt to communicate different views to the administration.  He also gave only a mildly-worded statement against the foreign travel ban.  Understand that DT regards people as either with him, or against him, so Musk directly criticizing him would have no beneficial influence (and besides, there are plenty of people doing that already).

Tonight Musk tweeted this message:

Regarding the Whitehouse meeting:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/827328619609481216
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on February 03, 2017, 04:24:32 PM
The linked article is entitled: "Immigration Ban Takes Toll on Earth and Space Scientists", indicating that the travel ban contributes to the Trump assault on science.

https://eos.org/articles/immigration-ban-takes-toll-on-earth-and-space-scientists?utm_source=eos&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=EosBuzz020317

Extract: "Some researchers can't come to the United States or fear leaving the country to visit their home nations because of a new federal ban on immigrants."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on February 12, 2017, 05:10:58 AM
The linked article is entitled: “3 Reasons Trump's EPA Pick Can't Be Trusted With Climate Science “, which speaks for itself.

http://www.ecowatch.com/pruitt-climate-science-2255425293.html (http://www.ecowatch.com/pruitt-climate-science-2255425293.html)

Extract: “As a climate scientist I've been trained to base my conclusions strictly on scientific evidence and not on politics. This is why I find it so troubling that President Trump's pick for the top job at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) openly misrepresented scientific data during his confirmation process.“

See also the linked article with an associated Australian newscast indicating that Trump may soon sign an order for the US to pull out of the Paris agreement:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/welcome-to-the-madhouse-scientist-says-trump-could-destroy-the-world/news-story/0e31691ab55a520800cef7dbd289fdad (http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/welcome-to-the-madhouse-scientist-says-trump-could-destroy-the-world/news-story/0e31691ab55a520800cef7dbd289fdad)

Edit, also see the following linked article entitled: "EPA scientists held back from conference: Cost-cutting or something more?".

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2017/0211/EPA-scientists-held-back-from-conference-Cost-cutting-or-something-more (http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2017/0211/EPA-scientists-held-back-from-conference-Cost-cutting-or-something-more)

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Eli81 on February 12, 2017, 12:32:02 PM
I've gotta stop reading these threads, it's unimaginably depressing....

It's going to be a long, dark four years....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: LRC1962 on February 12, 2017, 04:28:58 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/jan/31/trumps-copying-the-bush-censorship-playbook-scientists-arent-standing-for-it (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/jan/31/trumps-copying-the-bush-censorship-playbook-scientists-arent-standing-for-it)
A war on science is a war he’s guaranteed to lose. Trump can deny the science, silence the scientists, censor their reports, even fire them from government agencies - but that won’t stop the Earth from heating and its climate from changing at a dangerous rate. At best he would survive a four or eight-year term, leave the planet a worse place for future generations, and be seen as a villain in the history books.

But it looks as though scientists and journalists aren’t going to let that happen without a fight, and kudos to them for standing up to the anti-science bullies on behalf of the planet and future generations. We’ll all have to do our parts to protect science and hold the administration accountable to facts and truth for the next four years.

http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/canadian-scientists-know-what-to-expect-from-trump (http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/canadian-scientists-know-what-to-expect-from-trump)

If the Canadian experience can teach U.S. scientists anything, it’s that not only their future research but also their past work is at risk. “Watch your libraries,” May said. “Stuff was taken away in dumpsters. Raw data and archives were lost.” There is enough collective anxiety about U.S. climate data being destroyed, altered, or lost that several groups of concerned citizens spent the months before Trump’s Inauguration copying federal data and moving it to other servers. “Within weeks of Harper becoming Canada’s Prime Minster, the climate-change information was scrubbed from the Web site of Environment Canada and researchers were muzzled,” May said. “That took weeks. Trump is a lot faster.”
A couple of things the USA can look up to as positives. One: There is a far stronger wealthier private scientific establishment. Two: Suing is a routine act about everything there and Trump is quickly burning up any good that might have gone his way in that respect. Third: The media. Broadcasting, Hollywood, social media is far more active and influential on a per capita basis then Canada and therefore could help things along (granted most of that comes from immigrants who know how to use it).
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on February 14, 2017, 03:54:07 PM
Diehard Coders Just Rescued NASA’s Earth Science Data

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/diehard-coders-just-saved-nasas-earth-science-data/ (https://www.wired.com/2017/02/diehard-coders-just-saved-nasas-earth-science-data/)

Extract:

Berkeley hackathon to collect data from NASA’s earth sciences programs and the Department of Energy, are doing more than archiving. Diehard coders are building robust systems to monitor ongoing changes to government websites. And they’re keeping track of what’s already been removed—because yes, the pruning has already begun.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on February 19, 2017, 02:45:22 PM
GOP Plots To Clip NASA Wings As It Tweets Climate Change Updates

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58a91361e4b045cd34c2689e? (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58a91361e4b045cd34c2689e?)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on February 19, 2017, 04:56:40 PM
GOP Plots To Clip NASA Wings As It Tweets Climate Change Updates

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58a91361e4b045cd34c2689e? (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58a91361e4b045cd34c2689e?)

Why do they still pretend it's GOP? They could use the correct name, The Great Trumppparty of Trumpistan (TTT, hopping over the G since it's obvious). This is media gone wrong. And whatabout those IkEa weapons of mass-confusion in sweden. Anyway We aren't cutting wings but giving moorre it's great they can fly to Mars with those chinese sabotaged satellites.

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on February 21, 2017, 03:52:33 PM
The linked article is entitled: ‘We did not start this fight’: In Trump era’s dawn, scientists rally in Boston".  We should all support scientists who fight for "the centrality of objective information to making policy".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/02/19/we-did-not-start-this-fight-as-trump-era-dawns-scientists-rally-in-boston/?utm_term=.e798f3073b67 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/02/19/we-did-not-start-this-fight-as-trump-era-dawns-scientists-rally-in-boston/?utm_term=.e798f3073b67)

Extract: "Hundreds of scientists and their supporters rallied in historic Copley Square on Sunday, demanding that the Trump administration accept empirical reality on issues such as climate change and highlighting the centrality of objective information to making policy.

“We did not politicize science,” said Naomi Oreskes, a Harvard science historian who spoke at the rally, which unfolded on a surprisingly warm February day that left the square filled with mud puddles from the melt of a recent blizzard. “We did not start this fight.”"
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on February 21, 2017, 04:06:12 PM
You may want to read the Guardian on Prof Happer.:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2017/feb/21/trumps-potential-science-adviser-william-happer-hanging-around-with-conspiracy-theorists (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2017/feb/21/trumps-potential-science-adviser-william-happer-hanging-around-with-conspiracy-theorists)

With Happer on board to give credibility, Trump and his merry men will feel even more emboldened as they eviscerate the USA's climate science infrastructure and subject science discourse to political vetting.

Not so laughable any more - somewhat scary.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on February 23, 2017, 08:16:35 PM
Eric Holthaus:  This is huge. The largest Earth science society in the U.S. has officially joined the #ScienceMarch.
We will #resist the attack on science.

AGU:  AGU has joined the @ScienceMarchDC as a partner. Learn more about our involvement: https://fromtheprow.agu.org/agu-announces-endorsement-march-science/ #ScienceisEssential

https://mobile.twitter.com/theagu/status/834835271120199682
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on February 23, 2017, 08:22:16 PM
Massive police operation ongoing to clear the #NoDAPL Oceti camp - Watch #LIVE https://livestream.com/unicornriot/events/7046185

https://twitter.com/ur_ninja/status/834835848071897088
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: longwalks1 on February 24, 2017, 02:41:09 AM
Watching some of the canned livestream.  of NoDAPL. 

It was a much gentler scene in NoDak.for the nuclear missile civil disobedience (10 consecutive years) during the era of Governor Sinner of North Dakota (and at all the actions was his brother,Roman Catholic priest Fr. Sinner).  But ever since 911 everything has changed for civil dissent and the usofa police forces have been heavily militarized. 

Once in Missouri, in a state park near Whiteman AFB, over 100 of us were in a circle, doing the Lord's prayer, and as we came to "but deliver us from evil, up from the treetops arose 3 helicopters and we were triangulated.  They were sideways, gun door open, and the three "60s" had an airman in sunglasses touching the machine gun pointed upwards.  Afterwards it seemed we all thought we knew what they were thinking, "If they gave the orders, would I shoot."  And I believe that in 1991 some would not fire on unarmed people.

We all got into cars and caravaned to a missile silo, which had been stood down. The days of cutting open the chain on the fence of a nuclear missile site and 70 people going on site and none being arrested are long gone.  Welcome to the anthropocene. 





Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on February 24, 2017, 07:48:20 AM
WOW


I've been in some tights during protests, but nothing to compare.


Stay Lucky
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Gray-Wolf on February 24, 2017, 01:53:27 PM
My 17 year old daughter went along to an anti trump demo as the UK parliament were debating his visit. It was her first political demo.

would any other person have caused such global outpourings?

If anything Trump is radicalising millions around the world. Folk who would not consider themselves political are attending rallies. Who else would have caused such a reaction?

Advantage out of adversity eh?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on February 25, 2017, 12:12:09 PM
My 17 year old daughter went along to an anti trump demo as the UK parliament were debating his visit. It was her first political demo.

would any other person have caused such global outpourings?

If anything Trump is radicalising millions around the world. Folk who would not consider themselves political are attending rallies. Who else would have caused such a reaction?

Advantage out of adversity eh?


Kennedy was killed in my 17th year.


It's a great time in life to gain awareness that things are not always as we have been told.


Wish her my best
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on February 26, 2017, 06:55:23 AM
Is that guy Happer really equating the souls of jews and carbon dioxide? Does carbon dioxide have a soul? I'm not familiar with the Trumpistan Religion, that's why the question.
The reference:
https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/02/25/trump-potential-science-adviser-will-happer-carbon-dioxide-demonized-jews (https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/02/25/trump-potential-science-adviser-will-happer-carbon-dioxide-demonized-jews)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on February 26, 2017, 08:27:22 AM
Is that guy Happer really equating the souls of jews and carbon dioxide? Does carbon dioxide have a soul? I'm not familiar with the Trumpistan Religion, that's why the question.
The reference:
https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/02/25/trump-potential-science-adviser-will-happer-carbon-dioxide-demonized-jews (https://www.desmogblog.com/2017/02/25/trump-potential-science-adviser-will-happer-carbon-dioxide-demonized-jews)
Geriatrics and science make strange bedfellows.


The upside may be that at 77, he won't be subject to early onset Alzheimer's.  ::)


Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on February 26, 2017, 03:08:14 PM
Sciencegurl:  Trying to figure out why so many male scientists are all "don't say anything or organize. Just put your head down & it will all be fine".
https://twitter.com/sciencegurlz0/status/835556276406988800

See the Twitter link for the whole thread.  Excerpt:

And I think it is bc that is true for them. They've never had to 'fight' to have a legitimate place in this field.

No one has ever questioned whether they should even be at the table making decisions. They don't get silenced just for who they are.

Marginalized groups KNOW that if we don't force our way to the table we will NEVER get invited.

We know that even our place at that table is questioned. For instance, if a white man gets a job then it is bc he is qualified.

If a person from a marginalized group gets a job it is bc they "probably want to increase diversity".

I'm the only women PI in my deparmtent & people who I love have even suggested that I just had to be competent to be hired bc 'diversity'.

Which pretty much says, "I don't know if you actually belong here but it looks good on paper to have you here."

Now that scientists have been labeled by our admin as a group that doesn't deserve a voice, men who have never dealt with that have no clue

They think that pushing back is seen as disruptive & polarizing bc they have never had to do it.

They don't realize the reason they're seeing those who don't look like them across the table is bc we have done just that our entire career.

So, no. Staying silent is not going to help. If you want a voice then you have to scream it as loud as you can....



Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 05, 2017, 09:18:32 PM
You Can Now Access The EPA Website As It Existed Before Trump
Now we'll know what the government thought about climate change when it still believed in it.
"The Web Snapshot consists of static content, such as web pages and reports in Portable Document Format (PDF), as that content appeared on EPA's website as of January 19, 2017," according to a statement on the mirror site. Live databases and large information sources are not mirrored, so if you want those, you should grab them from the regular EPA site right now; the mirror site provides links.
https://www.fastcoexist.com/3068319/you-can-now-access-the-epa-website-as-it-existed-before-trump (https://www.fastcoexist.com/3068319/you-can-now-access-the-epa-website-as-it-existed-before-trump)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 08, 2017, 01:25:22 PM
The EPA’s Science Office Removed “Science” From Its Mission Statement
...Some worry these changes signal the EPA’s new direction—one that prioritizes business interests over public health and science—under new Administrator Scott Pruitt, who has close ties to fossil-fuel companies. Pruitt didn’t mention public health once in his first speech to agency employees, instead focusing on improving the EPA’s relationship with private interests. In a tweet after his speech, Pruitt said he was committed to working with several types of  “stakeholders” on environmental stewardship. He did not mention environmentalists as one of those stakeholders.

The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS), a science advocacy organization, shares EDGI’s concerns. “The role of the EPA is to protect public health and safety,” said Andrew Rosenberg, Director of UCS’s Center for Science and Democracy. “So what you want a science office to do is make sure you’re using the best science available, and what’s safe for the public. That’s a pretty critical role.”

Rosenberg said it would be a “major change in direction” if the EPA stopped prioritizing the best science and focused instead on what’s most “economically achievable” for businesses. “I think we have to be very mindful,” he said. “It seems like this EPA and this administration broadly seem to view their job as being a support for business as opposed to safeguarding public health.”
https://newrepublic.com/article/141174/epas-science-office-removed-science-mission-statement
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: cesium62 on March 09, 2017, 11:03:55 AM
Quote
One thing that climate and environmental science in general (and the environment itself) is, is global. Who knows what the consequences will be if Trump succeeds in ripping apart the US environmental science fabric.

What has this "climate and environmental science" effectively done to reverse ANYTHING?

We can only be observers as this runaway train is speeding into the abyss.
Of course, You're free to believe You can shout at the tide not to come in- by coming up with more and more observational data.
Or blame one particular leader.

[Responding here as this thread seems more on-topic than the freezing thread...]

Climate and environmental science establish cause and effect and measure change.  It provides the framework in which one can successfully make predictions about how changes today will affect the future.  The science informs what policies can stop this runaway train.

Ripping apart the science implies not attempting policies to halt the widespread changes we make to the environment.  When we all need to work together to move in the right direction, those moving in the wrong direction not only impede progress, but also sap the will of the weak.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on March 09, 2017, 01:10:39 PM
Quote
One thing that climate and environmental science in general (and the environment itself) is, is global. Who knows what the consequences will be if Trump succeeds in ripping apart the US environmental science fabric.

What has this "climate and environmental science" effectively done to reverse ANYTHING?

We can only be observers as this runaway train is speeding into the abyss.
Of course, You're free to believe You can shout at the tide not to come in- by coming up with more and more observational data.
Or blame one particular leader.

[Responding here as this thread seems more on-topic than the freezing thread...]

Climate and environmental science establish cause and effect and measure change.  It provides the framework in which one can successfully make predictions about how changes today will affect the future.  The science informs what policies can stop this runaway train.

Ripping apart the science implies not attempting policies to halt the widespread changes we make to the environment.  When we all need to work together to move in the right direction, those moving in the wrong direction not only impede progress, but also sap the will of the weak.

That we have a renewables industry is because climate science paved the way. There are some kids in the USA suing the government using climate data.

Maybe it will not be enough but one has to try. But without data there is no chance at all to prevent or at least reduce runaway climate change.

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on March 09, 2017, 04:47:09 PM
No surprise and we all knew this was coming, but EPA chief Scott Pruitt stated during a live TV interview that he believes CO2 is not the primary contributor to global warming.

Here is a statement from the Sierra Club

http://content.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2017/03/statement-pruitt-misled-congress-co2-senators-should-demand-he-be-removed-his (http://content.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2017/03/statement-pruitt-misled-congress-co2-senators-should-demand-he-be-removed-his)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: crandles on March 09, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
No surprise and we all knew this was coming, but EPA chief Scott Pruitt stated during a live TV interview that he believes CO2 is not the primary contributor to global warming.

Here is a statement from the Sierra Club

http://content.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2017/03/statement-pruitt-misled-congress-co2-senators-should-demand-he-be-removed-his (http://content.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2017/03/statement-pruitt-misled-congress-co2-senators-should-demand-he-be-removed-his)

The ref for misleading congress seems to be

The greenhouse gas effect traps outgoing longwave radiation causing a
radiative imbalance of Earth, ultimately leading to the warming of the globe.
...
•Do you disagree that additional greenhouse gases in Earth’s atmosphere, such
as carbon dioxide, will cause a smaller magnitude outgoing longwave radiation to
escape to space? Please explain.
•Do you disagree that the burning of fossil fuels, such as oil or natural gas, cause
carbon dioxide to be released into the atmosphere? Please explain.
•Do you disagree that if fossil fuels were not extracted and burned, less carbon
dioxide would be released into the atmosphere? Please explain.
•Therefore, is it possible, if not probable, that humans releasing greenhouse
gases into the atmosphere could cause more heat to be trapped by the
atmosphere? Please explain.

Answer
 I will work to ensure that any regulatory actions are based on
the most up to date and objective scientific data, including the ever-evolving
understanding of the impact increasing greenhouse gases have on our
changing climate.

Hmm, is there a few defences possible here:
I will work to ensure that, but in the meantime I haven't yet had time absorb all the nuances of the science and when I state my opinions that isn't a regulatory action so there is no contradiction.

Saying he believes in 'ever-evolving understanding' seems like it might be code for I don't believe the science is settled.

Perhaps it is more this part of the answer:
I also believe the Administrator has an important role when it comes to the regulation of carbon dioxide, which I will fulfill consistent with Massachusetts v. EPA and the agency's Endangerment Finding on Greenhouse Gases respective of the applicable statutory framework established by Congress.

Can stating such an opinion be regarded as separate from 'role when it comes to the regulation of carbon dioxide'? Possibly not?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on March 09, 2017, 05:40:20 PM
Herewith an assault on science  NOT down to Trump. As NSIDC has written in its Feb 2017 summary we are in high risk of losing polar sea ice data. Not  a Trump decision directly but read on .......

These satellites belong to the USAF. This shambles has been rumbling on for 2+ years. Congress Armed Services Committee rules, OK. Space News has stuff about it.

It seems USAF expects Indian, Korean, Japanese and European satellites to fill the gap. Also expects other US agencies to send up satellites (e.g.s NASA & NOAA).

WHOOPS ?


Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on March 09, 2017, 06:17:28 PM
No surprise and we all knew this was coming, but EPA chief Scott Pruitt stated during a live TV interview that he believes CO2 is not the primary contributor to global warming.

Here is a statement from the Sierra Club

http://content.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2017/03/statement-pruitt-misled-congress-co2-senators-should-demand-he-be-removed-his (http://content.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2017/03/statement-pruitt-misled-congress-co2-senators-should-demand-he-be-removed-his)

The ref for misleading congress seems to be

The greenhouse gas effect traps outgoing longwave radiation causing a
radiative imbalance of Earth, ultimately leading to the warming of the globe.
...
•Do you disagree that additional greenhouse gases in Earth’s atmosphere, such
as carbon dioxide, will cause a smaller magnitude outgoing longwave radiation to
escape to space? Please explain.
•Do you disagree that the burning of fossil fuels, such as oil or natural gas, cause
carbon dioxide to be released into the atmosphere? Please explain.
•Do you disagree that if fossil fuels were not extracted and burned, less carbon
dioxide would be released into the atmosphere? Please explain.
•Therefore, is it possible, if not probable, that humans releasing greenhouse
gases into the atmosphere could cause more heat to be trapped by the
atmosphere? Please explain.

Answer
 I will work to ensure that any regulatory actions are based on
the most up to date and objective scientific data, including the ever-evolving
understanding of the impact increasing greenhouse gases have on our
changing climate.

Hmm, is there a few defences possible here:
I will work to ensure that, but in the meantime I haven't yet had time absorb all the nuances of the science and when I state my opinions that isn't a regulatory action so there is no contradiction.

Saying he believes in 'ever-evolving understanding' seems like it might be code for I don't believe the science is settled.

Perhaps it is more this part of the answer:
I also believe the Administrator has an important role when it comes to the regulation of carbon dioxide, which I will fulfill consistent with Massachusetts v. EPA and the agency's Endangerment Finding on Greenhouse Gases respective of the applicable statutory framework established by Congress.

Can stating such an opinion be regarded as separate from 'role when it comes to the regulation of carbon dioxide'? Possibly not?

It's unlikely that he will held to account for any of his statements during confirmation.  The consequences for lying to congress either under oath or not have magically shifted with the current version of the GOP.  They will be too busy investigating Obama, Hillary, and the past DOJ.

And we will likely see his statement about the "most up to date and objective scientific evidence" turn into a parade of "science" from the fringe right wing and denial sphere being mainstreamed in the public square, to replace actual science and to assualt the 97%+ consensus body of understanding.  They will also try to enshrine denialism and doubt into public education, and across society. 

And all along, physics will not care one bit.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on March 10, 2017, 05:49:48 PM
The linked article is entitled: "Climate-Friendly Energy Star Program Could be Cut".  It is sad how self-serving Team Trump and their fossil fuel buddies are proving to be.

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/trump-takes-aim-at-energy-star-21234 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/trump-takes-aim-at-energy-star-21234)

Extract: "Energy Star, the program that certifies toasters, air conditioners, computers and buildings for energy efficiency, could be killed by the Trump administration as part of its effort to shrink federal spending.

The administration wants the program to be “zeroed out” in the 2018 Environmental Protection Agency budget, according to news reports and a memo that the EPA provided to the National Association of Clean Air Agencies last week."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 10, 2017, 07:57:41 PM
Need a (somewhat) humorous break?

Video:  The Daily Show from Comedy Central visits the Philadelphia data refuge group, helping to save climate data.   (TDS takes climate change seriously, but tries to make related stories funny.)

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/9n7n5i/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-canada-holds-on-to-u-s--climate-data-for-a-bit (http://www.cc.com/video-clips/9n7n5i/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-canada-holds-on-to-u-s--climate-data-for-a-bit)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 14, 2017, 07:50:13 PM
The EPA Used to Tweet About the Environment. Now It Just Tweets About Scott Pruitt.
http://m.motherjones.com/environment/2017/03/scott-pruitts-epa-his-own-pr-firm (http://m.motherjones.com/environment/2017/03/scott-pruitts-epa-his-own-pr-firm)


Democrats to send climate change educational materials to EPA chief Scott Pruitt
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/14/dems-to-send-climate-educational-materials-to-epa-chief-scott-pruitt.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/14/dems-to-send-climate-educational-materials-to-epa-chief-scott-pruitt.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on March 15, 2017, 05:53:36 PM
The linked article is entitled: "Republicans’ War on Science Just Got Frighteningly Real".  It looks like the GOP controlled US Congress and the Trump Administration will soon be playing tag-team to wrestle science to the mat.

https://newrepublic.com/article/141227/republicans-war-science-just-got-frighteningly-real

Extract: "Two terrible bills that Obama would have vetoed are back in play, and they stand a very good chance of becoming law under Trump.

President Donald Trump has not commented on these bills, but he’s expressed an extreme distrust of science in general, and the EPA specifically. He doesn’t believe in climate change, for instance, and has appointed several climate deniers to cabinet positions. Some of the very people behind these two bills are now serving on Trump’s EPA transition team."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 16, 2017, 08:23:35 PM
U.S. Representatives from districts in parts of the country on the front lines of climate change announce a bipartisan statement against the risks of climate change and supporting action against it.

Republicans Break Ranks With Pledge to Fight Climate Change
Seventeen conservative Republican members of Congress—10 of them in their first or second terms—are bucking long-time party positions and the new occupant of the White House. They announced on Wednesday that they’re supporting a clear statement about the risks associated with climate change, as well as principles for how best to fight it.

Called the “Republican Climate Resolution” by supporters, the statement by House members takes about 450 words to mention conservative thought on environmentalism, support for climate science, feared impacts, and a call for economically viable policy. They pledge in general terms to support study and mitigation measures, “using our tradition of American ingenuity, innovation, and exceptionalism.”
...
These bills are interesting in the way that solar energy is, even though solar makes up 1 percent of U.S. power generation. Like solar power, Republican climate bills are noteworthy not because one is likely to pass anytime soon, but because massive external forces—markets, other governments, and climate change itself—may eventually force it into the foreground....
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/republicans-break-ranks-pledge-fight-142146159.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/republicans-break-ranks-pledge-fight-142146159.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on March 17, 2017, 01:15:46 AM
Medical, science research faces huge cuts under Trump budget

Right when the superbugs ate rising...sweet...depopulation.. [/sarc]



Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 17, 2017, 02:40:48 AM
Robert Reich writes:

It’s important to see Trump's massive budget cut in federally funded research -- eliminating the Energy Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency; slashing the National Institutes of Health; eliminating or drastically cutting research by the Environmental Protection Agency, the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration, the National Science Foundation, and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration – for what it really is.

It’s part of Trump’s war on truth.

Throughout modern history, demagogues and tyrants have attacked scientists, researchers, investigators, analysts, professors, and all other sources of truth, including journalists. Some have even burned books.

That’s because tyrants don’t want independent sources of truth. Truth threatens their power. They want a monopoly on information, in order to keep the public in the dark. The most revolutionary act in a democracy is speaking truth to power, and spreading the truth so that others may speak it as well.

Trump tells big lies, attacks the independent press, and slashes funding for research. Connect the dots.
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1507081802637744 (https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1507081802637744)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on March 17, 2017, 04:13:56 AM
Robert Reich writes:

It’s important to see Trump's massive budget cut in federally funded research -- eliminating the Energy Department's Advanced Research Projects Agency; slashing the National Institutes of Health; eliminating or drastically cutting research by the Environmental Protection Agency, the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration, the National Science Foundation, and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration – for what it really is.

It’s part of Trump’s war on truth.

Throughout modern history, demagogues and tyrants have attacked scientists, researchers, investigators, analysts, professors, and all other sources of truth, including journalists. Some have even burned books.

That’s because tyrants don’t want independent sources of truth. Truth threatens their power. They want a monopoly on information, in order to keep the public in the dark. The most revolutionary act in a democracy is speaking truth to power, and spreading the truth so that others may speak it as well.

Trump tells big lies, attacks the independent press, and slashes funding for research. Connect the dots.
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1507081802637744 (https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1507081802637744)

Obviously, I concur with Robert Reich.  Hopefully, Trump will get caught in his web of deceits; but I am not holding my breath (given that we have a GOP controlled Congress).
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Jim Hunt on March 18, 2017, 05:42:50 PM
My good friend Alice F. has just tweeted @POTUS:

https://twitter.com/AF_Wetware/status/843137734692749313

Any chance of a "retweet" or three?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Jim Pettit on March 18, 2017, 09:45:01 PM
My good friend Alice F. has just tweeted @POTUS:

https://twitter.com/AF_Wetware/status/843137734692749313

Any chance of a "retweet" or three?

Just RT'ed...
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Ranman99 on March 19, 2017, 12:52:23 AM
Now there is an idea. How about organised twitter storms at POTUS on strategically agreed upon data. Being the type of guy he is and with everyone watching his responses I think it would be valuable.

Maybe we could have a thread here - What to tweet POTUS - and all concerned folks can share those items in their other forums and also of course tweet POTUS.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on March 19, 2017, 01:48:06 AM
Now there is an idea. How about organised twitter storms at POTUS on strategically agreed upon data. Being the type of guy he is and with everyone watching his responses I think it would be valuable.

Maybe we could have a thread here - What to tweet POTUS - and all concerned folks can share those items in their other forums and also of course tweet POTUS.

Cheers,

+1
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Jim Hunt on March 19, 2017, 09:15:21 AM
Thanks Jim.

Now there is an idea. How about organised twitter storms at POTUS on strategically agreed upon data

Well I'm certainly not going to argue with that proposition! See also:

https://www.skepticalscience.com/tweet-or-not-at-donald-trump.html (https://www.skepticalscience.com/tweet-or-not-at-donald-trump.html)

In related news:

https://twitter.com/jim_hunt/status/843239042238025728 (https://twitter.com/jim_hunt/status/843239042238025728)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on March 23, 2017, 09:35:09 AM
The linked article is entitled: "Climate denier in White House prompts a 'March for Science' on Earth Day", and it indicates that the organizers are in need of funding as it has become more difficult to get the necessary permits for such a nationwide event since January 20, 2017.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/politics/article/With-climate-denier-in-White-House-a-March-for-11018058.php (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/politics/article/With-climate-denier-in-White-House-a-March-for-11018058.php)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on March 23, 2017, 05:32:12 PM
And so it begins; the linked article is entitled: "Bill Would Bar Discrimination Toward Climate Change Doubters"; which could make evidence-based scientists guilty of hate crime if say they were to deny a climate change denying scientist (with research funded by the fossil fuel industry) a tenured position.

http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLIMATE_CHANGE_DISCRIMINATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-22-19-01-38 (http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLIMATE_CHANGE_DISCRIMINATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-22-19-01-38)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 25, 2017, 10:16:44 PM
These will come as no surprise:

1)  Vice President Mike Pence, speaking in West Virginia coal country today: "The war on coal is over...a new era of American energy has begun."  (By which he means coal is good.  But he promises them nothing except they "will not be forgotten.")
https://twitter.com/cnnnewsroom/status/845703020151279617 (https://twitter.com/cnnnewsroom/status/845703020151279617)

2) Curry, Pielke, Christy -- all three superstars of climate denial will appear before the US House Science Committee next week!
https://www.facebook.com/SkepticalScience/posts/10154655804538335 (https://www.facebook.com/SkepticalScience/posts/10154655804538335)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on March 26, 2017, 06:46:36 AM
And so it begins; the linked article is entitled: "Bill Would Bar Discrimination Toward Climate Change Doubters"; which could make evidence-based scientists guilty of hate crime if say they were to deny a climate change denying scientist (with research funded by the fossil fuel industry) a tenured position.

http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLIMATE_CHANGE_DISCRIMINATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-22-19-01-38 (http://staging.hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLIMATE_CHANGE_DISCRIMINATION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-22-19-01-38)
Well this sort of a bill would be a reason for this thred to be in 'science section. Of course no sensible university would obey this. They really want to dumb down north american citicens. Coal-communism, or fossilic fascism.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on March 26, 2017, 09:42:32 AM
The linked Science article is entitled: "Lamar Smith, unbound, lays out political strategy at climate doubters’ conference", and it indicates that Smith has been emboldened by the election of Trump, to more aggressively attack many evidenced based science issues including climate research:

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/lamar-smith-unbound-lays-out-political-strategy-climate-doubters-conference (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/03/lamar-smith-unbound-lays-out-political-strategy-climate-doubters-conference)

Extract: "Representative Lamar Smith (R–TX) rarely expresses his true feelings in public. But speaking yesterday to a like-minded crowd of climate change doubters and skeptics, the chairman of the science committee in the U.S. House of Representatives acknowledged that the committee is now a tool to advance his political agenda rather than a forum to examine important issues facing the U.S. research community.

Emboldened by the election of President Donald Trump, Smith appears increasingly comfortable dismissing those who disagree with his stance on any number of issues under the purview of his science committee, from climate research to the use of peer review in assessing research results and grant proposals. And one key element in his strategy appears to be relabeling common terms in hopes of shaping public dialogue.

In fact, as Smith told one audience member who worried that Trump might renege on some to his campaign promises, the sky’s the limit when it comes to dismantling the past 8 years of environmental regulations.

“I think the president has ushered in a permanent change in the political climate,” Smith asserted. “And by that I mean I think he’ll keep his promises and that he’ll do exactly what he said. You’re seeing that in his appointments, like Scott Pruitt at EPA, for example. So … I don’t think you’ll have any disappointment on any of those issues.”"
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Jim Hunt on March 27, 2017, 12:22:41 PM
Curry, Pielke, Christy -- all three superstars of climate denial will appear before the US House Science Committee next week!

My own take on that story:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2017/03/a-report-on-the-state-of-the-arctic-in-2017/ (http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2017/03/a-report-on-the-state-of-the-arctic-in-2017/)

Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears;
Lamar Smith comes to bury Michael Mann, not to praise him.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 28, 2017, 08:09:20 PM
Trump’s Climate Destruction Plan: A Deal He Can’t Close
President Trump’s sprawling executive order directing the EPA and other agencies to start dismantling President Obama’s climate legacy flies in the face of law, science, and strong public support for climate action.

Trump’s executive order is a Climate Destruction Plan.  It attacks the centerpiece of his predecessor’s climate legacy, the Clean Power Plan to limit the carbon pollution from the nation’s existing fleet of power plants.

Trump’s order does not stop there. It tells the EPA to start rolling back carbon limits for new power plants.  It directs the EPA and the Bureau of Land Management to begin scrapping curbs on methane leakage from the oil and gas industry.

Today’s order follows earlier steps to start weakening clean car and fuel economy standards. And the order strikes at economic tools for quantifying the benefits of climate protections (the social cost of carbon) and repeals other executive orders and guidelines. ...

As destructive as it aspires to be, however, Trump’s executive order cannot erase Clean Air Act standards and other climate protection rules by itself.  Scott Pruitt and the president’s other minions must follow the rule of law.  They can tear down these regulations only using the same legal process it took to build them. Their final decisions must pass muster in the courts.
https://www.nrdc.org/experts/david-doniger/trumps-climate-destruction-plan-deal-he-cant-close (https://www.nrdc.org/experts/david-doniger/trumps-climate-destruction-plan-deal-he-cant-close)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on March 28, 2017, 08:46:22 PM
#ClimateMayors Letter to President Trump on Roll Back of US Climate Actions
As members of the Mayors National Climate Action Agenda (MNCAA), we represent more than 41 million Americans in 75 cities across our nation — in red and blue states alike. We write to strongly object to your actions to roll back critically important U.S. climate policies including the Clean Power Plan and vehicle fuel efficiency standards, as well as proposed budget cuts to the EPA and critical federal programs like Energy Star....
https://medium.com/@ClimateMayors/climatemayors-letter-to-president-trump-on-roll-back-of-us-climate-actions-639389c80f1c

Updated signatories as of 9am PT on March 28, 2017.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Jim Hunt on March 29, 2017, 11:52:10 AM
Retired Rear Admiral David Titley expresses his views on the House Science Committee hearing later today:

Should Climate Scientists Boycott Congressional Hearings? (http://greatwhitecon.info/2017/03/should-climate-scientists-boycott-congressional-hearings/)

We should no longer be duped into playing along with this strategy.

Despite sending many skilled science communicators to testify at the hearings over the years and even when scoring tactical victories, the strategic effect of participating at these hearings has been to sustain the perception of false equivalence, a perception only exaggerated by the majority’s ability to select a grossly disproportionate number of witnesses far removed from mainstream science (it’s not coincidence that Judith Curry, professor emeritus, Georgia Institute of Technology, and John Christy, professor of atmospheric sciences, University of Alabama at Huntsville, are called upon so often by the Republicans).

A better response would be to simply boycott future hearings of this kind and to call out these hearings for what they are: a tactic to distract the public from a serious policy debate over how to manage both the short- and long-term risks of climate change.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on March 29, 2017, 01:47:33 PM
The linked article is entitled: "Trump has launched a blitzkrieg in the wars on science and Earth’s climate".  Indeed, this is not governance, but is a declaration of war on science.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/trump-blitzkrieg-wars-on-science-climate.html (https://www.skepticalscience.com/trump-blitzkrieg-wars-on-science-climate.html)

Extract: "Today, Trump signed executive orders taking aim at America’s climate policies. On the heels of a report finding that the world needs to halve its carbon pollution every decade to avoid dangerous climate change, Trump’s order would instead increase America’s carbon pollution, to the exclusive benefit of the fossil fuel industry."

See also the linked article entitled: "Planned Rollback of Climate Rules Unlikely to Achieve All Trump’s Goals".

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/27/climate/planned-rollback-of-climate-rules-unlikely-to-achieve-all-trumps-goals.html?_r=0 (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/27/climate/planned-rollback-of-climate-rules-unlikely-to-achieve-all-trumps-goals.html?_r=0)

Extract: "Legal experts say it could take years for the Trump administration to unwind the Clean Power Plan, which itself has not yet been carried out because it has been temporarily frozen by a Supreme Court order. Those regulations sought to cut planet-warming carbon dioxide pollution from coal-fired power plants. If enacted, they would have shut down hundreds of those plants, frozen construction of future plants and replaced them with wind and solar farms."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Rick Aster on March 29, 2017, 07:08:40 PM
One researcher confirms a steady pace of deleted climate documents and data. Victoria Herrmann writing in The Guardian: "I am an Arctic researcher. Donald Trump is deleting my citations."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/28/arctic-researcher-donald-trump-deleting-my-citations (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/28/arctic-researcher-donald-trump-deleting-my-citations)

Since January, the surge has transformed into a slow, incessant march of deleting datasets, webpages and policies about the Arctic. I now come to expect a weekly email request to replace invalid citations, hoping that someone had the foresight to download statistics about Arctic permafrost thaw or renewable energy in advance of the purge.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Jim Hunt on March 29, 2017, 11:08:56 PM
My initial report on today's House Committee on Science, Space and Technology hearing on "Climate Science: Assumptions, Policy Implications, and the Scientific Method“:

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2017/03/the-house-science-climate-model-show-trial/ (http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2017/03/the-house-science-climate-model-show-trial/)

My YouTube feed cut out at the point Dana Rohrabacher got rather angry with Mike Mann! Correlation or causation?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on March 30, 2017, 01:28:44 AM
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58dbae95e4b0cb23e65d06f5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58dbae95e4b0cb23e65d06f5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)

House Science Committee Chair Says Science Magazine Is Not ‘Objective’

Doh!!!
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on March 30, 2017, 04:21:48 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-coal-policy-will-likely-do-just-what-obamas-did/2017/03/29/7c5bb868-14b4-11e7-9e4f-09aa75d3ec57_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-coal-policy-will-likely-do-just-what-obamas-did/2017/03/29/7c5bb868-14b4-11e7-9e4f-09aa75d3ec57_story.html)

"Trump’s coal policy will likely do just what Obama’s did"
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on March 30, 2017, 05:00:12 AM
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58dbae95e4b0cb23e65d06f5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_58dbae95e4b0cb23e65d06f5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009)

House Science Committee Chair Says Science Magazine Is Not ‘Objective’

Doh!!!
Translation:
"House Science Committee Chair won't accept any medicines invented after 1930s"
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on March 30, 2017, 10:02:11 AM
The linked article is entitled: "US climate science hearing descends into bullying 'food-fight'.  It appears that Lamar Smith is so embolden by Trump that he is now attacking scientists directly in open Congressional hearings.

https://phys.org/news/2017-03-climate-science-descends-bullying-food-fight.html

Extract: "Lawmakers and scientists called names, lamented Soviet-era tactics and accused each other of wrongdoing at a nearly three-hour hearing on climate science in the US capital on Wednesday.

Some colleagues had urged Mann to boycott the hearing, titled "Climate Science: Assumptions, Policy Implications, and the Scientific Method."

"In the past, the science community has participated in these hearings, even though questioning the basics of climate change is akin to holding a hearing to examine whether the Earth orbits the sun," wrote David Titley, a professor in the department of meteorology at Pennsylvania State University, in the Washington Post on Tuesday, the eve of the hearing."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Rick Aster on March 30, 2017, 05:21:03 PM
The climate office will probably be closed, but in the meantime, the term "climate change" is banned in all internal communication, according to a Politico source.

Energy Department climate office bans use of phrase ‘climate change’; The Office of International Climate and Clean Energy is the only office at DOE with the words ‘climate’ in its name, and it may be endangered as Trump looks to reorganize government agencies. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/energy-department-climate-change-phrases-banned-236655 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/energy-department-climate-change-phrases-banned-236655)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on March 30, 2017, 07:14:53 PM
The climate office will probably be closed, but in the meantime, the term "climate change" is banned in all internal communication, according to a Politico source.

Energy Department climate office bans use of phrase ‘climate change’; The Office of International Climate and Clean Energy is the only office at DOE with the words ‘climate’ in its name, and it may be endangered as Trump looks to reorganize government agencies. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/energy-department-climate-change-phrases-banned-236655 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/energy-department-climate-change-phrases-banned-236655)


Sad to see science disappear from the local politics. Is there any reason to buy anything technical from US anymore?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on April 01, 2017, 03:15:16 PM
From the barentsobserver.com/en:-
Putin signals climate change might not be human made.

A new age of Russo/US cooperation dawns ?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Jim Hunt on April 01, 2017, 03:21:49 PM
Much more on the aftermath of Wednesday's House Science Committee "climate science show trial":

http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2017/03/the-house-science-climate-model-show-trial/#Apr-1 (http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2017/03/the-house-science-climate-model-show-trial/#Apr-1)

Judith Curry is doubling down on Mike Mann's allegations of "climate science denial" on her part:

Today is All Fools’ Day, but this is no joke.

What on Earth are Rep. Higgins and ex Prof. Curry on about with all this “RICO” business?

"Would you be able to at some future date provide to this committee evidence of your lack of association with the organisation Union of Concerned Scientists and lack of your association with the organisation called Climate Accountability Institute? Can you provide that documentation to this committee Sir?"
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: wili on April 01, 2017, 03:39:50 PM
RobertScribbler forceufully weighs in on the general subject here:

https://robertscribbler.com/2017/03/31/the-fires-of-history-yet-rage-climate-change-and-the-authoritarian-assault-on-liberal-democracy/

You may today be cajoled — through the internet — by none other than oil billionaire, petrostate dictator, former KGB agent, democracy saboteur, and Trump-supporter Vladimir Putin who’d try to use his supposedly legendary charm (or the merciless intimidation of his online agents and surrogates) to convince you of the false notion that the climate is changing but humans aren’t the cause (see — Putin Defends Climate Deniers and Looks Forward to Arctic Melting). If you’re one of those strong-willed enough to wrench your mind from the grasp of a man and his army of 15,000 information warfare trolls spreading misinformation aimed at the advancement of his destructive wealth and power, you could use the same powerful tool to actually directly contact real scientists — who’d tell you that about 100 percent or more of present warming is now being caused by human beings. So you could then give Putin a very justified big, fat middle finger salute.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on April 01, 2017, 09:53:13 PM
Putin calls on the US to join in efforts to save the polar bear and preserve arctic biodiversity.


https://www.rt.com/business/382837-putin-russia-united-states-arctic/ (https://www.rt.com/business/382837-putin-russia-united-states-arctic/)


Why do people insist on calling one of the most popular politicians in modern times a dictator? Have words lost all meaning?


Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: P-maker on April 01, 2017, 10:57:10 PM
Terry,

Sourced from this news outlet: https://on.rt.com/87kt (https://on.rt.com/87kt)  (or this version: https://www.rt.com/news/383069-peskov-cold-war-russia/ (https://www.rt.com/news/383069-peskov-cold-war-russia/) ),

 I came across the following quote:
“New Cold War? Well, maybe even worse,” the Russian President’s spokesman told ABC News.“

I came to think, what is even worse than a new Cold War? Could it be a new business alliance between Trump and Putin aimed at melting the remaining sea ice this summer in the Arctic. The purpose seems to be to get US oil technology and Russian oil money into the game of ruining the rest of the Arctic ice masses, swiftly followed by a disturbance of the climate zones through twisted Jet Streams, leading to widespread disruption, regional conflicts and war. The latter would be called a collateral damage by some, but also a great opportunity for others to keep selling Russian Arctic oil and weaponry from both sides for decades to come.

Who ever thought up this plot, should be charged with crimes against humanity. The meaning of “Cold War” suddenly changes quite dramatically, if this potential alliance between the US and Russia bears fruit. Maybe “War against the Cold” would be a better phrase to use in this context.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on April 01, 2017, 11:45:24 PM
Putin calls on the US to join in efforts to save the polar bear and preserve arctic biodiversity.


https://www.rt.com/business/382837-putin-russia-united-states-arctic/ (https://www.rt.com/business/382837-putin-russia-united-states-arctic/)


Why do people insist on calling one of the most popular politicians in modern times a dictator? Have words lost all meaning?


Terry

Because he jails the opposition and protesters ??? Maybe he is popular in Russian. What is the view in the ex Soviet counties?  And I will trust they care about the environment when I see how the clean up the most polluted spots in the world in their own territory... 

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201704011052197679-russian-arctic-development-third-stage/ (https://sputniknews.com/russia/201704011052197679-russian-arctic-development-third-stage/)

Pretty happy with an iceless Arctic...
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on April 02, 2017, 05:50:00 AM

Because he jails the opposition and protesters ??? 

Would they be the same protesters that insisted on marching in an unauthorized protest that disrupted a transportation hub rather than agreeing to protest a few blocks away?



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Maybe he is popular in Russian. What is the view in the ex Soviet counties?
Those ex Soviet countries in which he never ran?


Perhaps polling Bush or Trump's popularity in Canada or Mexico would offer similar results, but it still wouldn't make either a dictator.


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And I will trust they care about the environment when I see how the clean up the most polluted spots in the world in their own territory... 

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201704011052197679-russian-arctic-development-third-stage/ (https://sputniknews.com/russia/201704011052197679-russian-arctic-development-third-stage/)

Pretty happy with an iceless Arctic...


Better to refuse any offer of cooperation I suppose, since they've done so well on their own.


Terry
Sorry about the [/size][size] stuff, can't seem to do away with them.

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Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Bruce Steele on April 02, 2017, 07:04:04 AM
A few years ago I served a short stint on a water quality board that was collecting fees from farmers to test water quality in local watersheds from Monterey to Carpenteria Calif.  About one third of all streams were toxic to a water flea ( Ceriodaphnia Dubia )used to test water toxicity . That is water samples taken from local streams would kill the insects overnight in about one third of all samples . Samplers would count out fifty water fleas and place them in a stream water sample , they would also do another sample with a control with clean water.  I didn't do the sampling I just got access to the results.
 Chemical analysis revealed two insecticides were also present in the toxic samples in our area and other areas of Calif. that were kiliing the water fleas, and other insects. The EPA gave notice that the two insecticides responsible would be phased out . I thought giving farmers several years to find something to replace the chemicals responsible was generous to the extreme and I have been waiting ever since for the ban to go into effect. Diazinon and Chlorpyrifos were the two problem chemicals.
Today the EPA recended their our science advice and canceled the ban on Chlorpyrifos , the more toxic of the two problem pesticides.
 Scott Pruit and the EPA are probably putting human health at risk but they are also rendering whole watersheds toxic to the insect life that sustains fish populations.
 I wonder how long the clown show in Washington will go on ?  They are doing their damage while we argue about foreign meddling in an election campaign .  There isn't a single article about how this latest corporate handout will kill one more part of our native wildlife. I hope everyone enjoys their picture perfect produce.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/epa-scott-pruitt-overrides-agency-research-under-obama-pesticide-chlorpyrifos-farmers/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/epa-scott-pruitt-overrides-agency-research-under-obama-pesticide-chlorpyrifos-farmers/)


 

 
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: sidd on April 02, 2017, 07:18:33 AM
Thanks for the heads up. How much do the tests for Diazinon and Chlorpyrifos cost ? I got at least three streams to test.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Bruce Steele on April 02, 2017, 07:43:32 AM
Sidd, Here is a PDF with more explicit info about testing in the Salinas Valley. It was in the area of study for the board I served on. The test to  identify the pesticides in the water was an ELISA test. I was sitting as a farmer representative and I don't have a dollar estimate for the cost but I think getting some water fleas and doing some water tests would be fairly cheap. The brand names for Chlorpyrifos are Lorsban, Dursban and several others. Thank Dow Chemical.
 I think adding almonds to the international list of US crops in need of boycotts is in order.

http://www.ccamp.org/ccamp/documents/HuntSalinasStudy.pdf (http://www.ccamp.org/ccamp/documents/HuntSalinasStudy.pdf)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on April 02, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
Putin calls on the US to join in efforts to save the polar bear and preserve arctic biodiversity.


https://www.rt.com/business/382837-putin-russia-united-states-arctic/ (https://www.rt.com/business/382837-putin-russia-united-states-arctic/)


Why do people insist on calling one of the most popular politicians in modern times a dictator? Have words lost all meaning?


Terry

Pretty good April Fool's snark, actually elicited a hearty LOL.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: sidd on April 02, 2017, 09:45:33 PM
Thanks for the link, Mr. Steele.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Bruce Steele on April 05, 2017, 07:03:13 AM
Sidd, Check out the photo op on today's  signing of executive order 13777. 
Like I said "thank Dow chemical"  when all the fish and amphibians disappear.

http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2017/02/dows_liveris_stands_beside_tru.html (http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2017/02/dows_liveris_stands_beside_tru.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: sidd on April 05, 2017, 08:47:17 AM
I take it you mean

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/24/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-regulatory-reform-agenda (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/24/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-regulatory-reform-agenda)

He's putting the bureaucracy in charge of making itself smaller ? I go and watch "Yes, Prime Minister" for a while. Or mebbe he should.

sidd
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: SteveMDFP on April 05, 2017, 03:49:18 PM
I take it you mean

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/24/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-regulatory-reform-agenda (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/02/24/presidential-executive-order-enforcing-regulatory-reform-agenda)

He's putting the bureaucracy in charge of making itself smaller ? I go and watch "Yes, Prime Minister" for a while. Or mebbe he should.

sidd

I think it's largely just for show.  He promised the corporate world a dramatic reduction in "regulatory burden." This order is something he can wave about to show he means business (pun intended).

The reality is that regulations are put forward mostly to implement statutory law.  If the underlying legislation is still in place, the regulations can't legally be just rescinded.  They *could* be revised, by the well-established lengthy process of publicizing proposed re-interpretations of the legislation, and public comment periods.  But any radical re-interpretations of law will be met with legal challenges that will slow this effort to a crawl.

Essentially, hs promise to reduce "regulatory burdens" can't effectively be delivered without changing a lot of laws in Congress.  Even with Rs in a majority in both Houses, this is a slow process.  And it will grind to a halt as the Gopenfuhrer loses friends on the Hill.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on April 05, 2017, 03:56:34 PM
He is reducing regulatory burdens like mediocre administrators reduce cost. Just cut the budget and let lower employees figure out how to make it work.

When he was elected I though, hey maybe the guy actually has innovative ways to make policies that make the government more efficient. But no. Only mediocre middle management tactics to reduce cost. No innovative policies. No long term changes that make america great again.   
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 15, 2017, 01:00:52 PM
I am unable to find words adequate to describe the destruction this administration is wreaking in order to provide a few years of profit for highly-polluting industries.

Trump-era damage to the EPA appears increasingly brutal
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-era-damage-the-epa-appears-increasingly-brutal (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-era-damage-the-epa-appears-increasingly-brutal)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on April 15, 2017, 03:25:16 PM
He is reducing regulatory burdens like mediocre administrators reduce cost. Just cut the budget and let lower employees figure out how to make it work.

When he was elected I though, hey maybe the guy actually has innovative ways to make policies that make the government more efficient. But no. Only mediocre middle management tactics to reduce cost. No innovative policies. No long term changes that make america great again.

How would he know of any innovative policies?? Has he applied them in his businesses? Has any repub governor introduced such efficiencies? Has any repub lawmaker ever introduced a bill proposing such innovations? All they know is a guttural CUT CUT.

People ascribe way too much to the word Businessman. I am really baffled by the expectations....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 19, 2017, 01:07:28 AM
Climate Activists Plot How to Turn Anti-Trump Rage Into Anti-Trump Votes
Activists planning the People's Climate March in Washington, D.C. on April 29 are mapping out a far more ambitious trek than that day's walk from the Capitol to the White House. They are trying to turn rage over the Trump administration's rollback of climate change policy and budget cuts targeting science into actual political clout.
...
Climate activists had selected April 29 as a day of mobilization long before they knew that they'd be locked in battle with the Trump administration. Planning began last summer, with People's Climate March organizers hoping to reprise a 2014 protest in New York, when more than 400,000 people took to the streets ahead of a United Nations summit. It was the largest climate march in history. Organizers believe that the outpouring had helped prod President Obama and set the stage for the Paris accord the following year....
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/18042017/climate-change-peoples-climate-march-environmentalists-donald-trump
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 19, 2017, 01:22:30 AM
Did you notice when the U.S. Department of the Interior's Bureau of Land Management website changed their header photo from a family viewing natural vistas, to a coal seam?

http://mashable.com/2017/04/06/interior-department-changes-webpage-coal-pile/ (http://mashable.com/2017/04/06/interior-department-changes-webpage-coal-pile/)

Well, now it's a bright shiny pipeline.  Crossing a river.

https://www.blm.gov (https://www.blm.gov)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Eli81 on April 21, 2017, 10:41:25 AM
I don't know why exactly, but that caused me a good hearty laugh. I mean, if I were a denier, I would find that pretty hilarious.

We've got children at the helms of all of these important organizations who are out to play games.

It's like a scene from a bad movie. Except we're living it.

And the movie just started......
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on April 21, 2017, 03:45:35 PM
The linked article is entitled: "The Carbon Brief Interview: Michael Gerrard", and it focuses on how both the Trump Administration and the GOP are assaulting climate science:

https://www.carbonbrief.org/carbon-brief-interview-michael-gerrard (https://www.carbonbrief.org/carbon-brief-interview-michael-gerrard)

Extract: "Gerrard on the election of Donald Trump: “In short, it’s been catastrophic.”"
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 22, 2017, 03:33:27 PM
”Dow Chemical wrote a $1 million check to help underwrite Trump's inaugural festivities.”

Dow Chemical Pushes White House to Kill Risk Study Showing Pesticide Dangers
WASHINGTON — Dow Chemical is pushing a Trump administration that's open to scrapping regulations to ignore the findings of federal scientists who point to a family of widely used pesticides as harmful to about 1,800 critically threatened or endangered species.

Lawyers representing Dow, whose CEO is a close adviser to President Donald Trump, and two other manufacturers of organophosphates sent letters last week to the heads of three of Trump's Cabinet agencies. The companies asked them "to set aside" the results of government studies the companies contend are fundamentally flawed....
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dow-chemical-pushes-white-house-kill-risk-study-showing-pesticide-n749396 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dow-chemical-pushes-white-house-kill-risk-study-showing-pesticide-n749396)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 22, 2017, 03:38:55 PM
 You can register to attend the March for Science today virtually.


Register to attend your local march

On April 22, 2017, join us for an unprecedented gathering of people standing together to acknowledge and voice the critical role that science plays in each of our lives.

*If you will be attending virtually, please select Washington DC or your local march and you will be given an option for virtual marching.

To register, all that we require is your name and email address to ensure accurate counts of participants.  If you have the time, please share additional details with us.  Our insatiable curiosity leaves us with many questions that we want answered — we can only do that with your participation!  For more information on our privacy policy, please click here.  ...

https://www.marchforscience.com/satellite-marches/ (https://www.marchforscience.com/satellite-marches/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 22, 2017, 03:59:55 PM
And yes, the March for Science is happening around the globe, not just the U.S.
  Eric Holthaus is live-tweeting march news at:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ericholthaus/


Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 23, 2017, 12:11:53 AM
The March for Science stretched all the way to the North Pole
The Trump administration's assault on scientific evidence and research funding may have triggered the March for Science, but the more than 500 events around the world on Saturday demonstrated that the movement is truly global. ...
http://mashable.com/2017/04/22/march-for-science-photos-worldwide/ (http://mashable.com/2017/04/22/march-for-science-photos-worldwide/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 23, 2017, 12:39:09 AM
Even Trump's Earth Day message was anti-science
...
Along with some faint praise of America's "abundant natural resources and awe-inspiring beauty," Trump used Earth Day to talk about jobs.

"Economic growth enhances environmental protection. We can and must protect our environment without harming America's working families. That is why my administration is reducing unnecessary burdens on American workers and American companies, while being mindful that our actions must also protect the environment," Trump said.
...
http://mashable.com/2017/04/22/trump-earth-day-statement-anti-science/ (http://mashable.com/2017/04/22/trump-earth-day-statement-anti-science/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on April 23, 2017, 01:13:19 AM
The linked article is entitled: "March for Science or March for Reality?".  Hopefully, the public comes to realize that Mother Nature doesn't care what people believe to be true, only what is true.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/march-for-science-or-march-for-reality/

Extract: "Hostility toward the former is troublesome, but hostility toward the latter is the underlying issue

The Trump Administration is discovering that obfuscation, denial, and hype may work when selling real estate, but in public arena eventually reality has a way of biting you in the butt. And the public is watching. The March for Science may be lucky to capitalize upon a growing awareness that there is no Wizard behind the curtain. The number of marchers, their backgrounds, or even their myriad messages may not drive the success of the March. Rather, it may be driven by the harsh examples coming out every day that reality exists independent of the desires or claims of those in power. In this case, the greatest asset the March for Science has going for it may be Donald Trump himself."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on April 23, 2017, 03:51:55 PM
Perhaps there are some reasons for hope that the Trump / Pruitt et al assault on science perhaps, maybe, just possibly produce some good.

- the Environment is getting a hell-of-a-lot more media coverage,
-It has forced scientists to come out and shout,
- Some Republican states and cities have joined the coalition against the White House on the environment. (Republicans go on and on about States' rights - so a Republican Congress may have some difficulty in demanding that individual States bow down to demands from the Federal Government),
- Some Republicans in cities like Flint must wonder about a Federal Government saying it's OK for industry to pollute the water supply,
- Some foreign Governments and the EU have said Nie, Nein, Nao, No, Nej  to any messing about by the USA to any retreat on environmental policies. It's a bit like Brexit - our politicians are finding not having a seat at the EU table somewhat uncomfortable.

For once I am being almost an optimist.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 24, 2017, 03:54:38 PM
The Energy Department is reportedly denying funds for already-approved grants
The grant-making ARPA-E program was targeted for elimination in Trump budget.
After proposing to eliminate the Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (ARPA-E) in its draft budget, the Trump administration, through the Department of Energy, has started withholding money for grants already approved by the agency, Politico reported Thursday, citing two unidentified sources.

The hold on the money for the grants began last week, Politico reported. During his run for the White House, President Donald Trump promised to target federal funding for agencies, like ARPA-E, that promote clean energy technologies.
...
https://thinkprogress.org/arpa-e-funding-not-going-through-5da18dccd935
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on April 30, 2017, 01:48:00 PM
People's Climate March

Climate protest takes on Trump's policies -- and the heat -- in DC march
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/29/us/climate-change-march/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/29/us/climate-change-march/index.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: DrTskoul on April 30, 2017, 09:34:27 PM
The Energy Department is reportedly denying funds for already-approved grants
The grant-making ARPA-E program was targeted for elimination in Trump budget.
After proposing to eliminate the Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy (ARPA-E) in its draft budget, the Trump administration, through the Department of Energy, has started withholding money for grants already approved by the agency, Politico reported Thursday, citing two unidentified sources.

The hold on the money for the grants began last week, Politico reported. During his run for the White House, President Donald Trump promised to target federal funding for agencies, like ARPA-E, that promote clean energy technologies.
...
https://thinkprogress.org/arpa-e-funding-not-going-through-5da18dccd935

Effing morons....
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 03, 2017, 10:22:17 PM
EPA asks what rules to cut, gets earful about dirty water
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration got an earful Tuesday from people who say federal rules limiting air and water pollution aren't tough enough, even as it was seeking suggestions about what environmental regulations it should gut.

The Environmental Protection Agency held a three-hour "virtual listening session" on Tuesday to collect public comments by phone about which clean water regulations should be targeted for repeal, replacement or modification. The call was part of the agency's response to President Donald Trump's order to get rid of regulations that are burdensome to business and industry.

Both the phone-in session and the nearly 6,000 written comments submitted so far and published on a federal website were dominated by those staunchly opposed to the planned regulatory rollback. Many identified themselves as being affiliated with environmental groups. Others said they were taxpayers worried about maintaining safe sources of drinking water.

"I actually enjoy breathing clean air and drinking clean water and would find it quite burdensome not to," said Emily Key, who identified herself as a citizen worried about what cancer-causing chemicals children may be exposed to.
...
https://www.apnews.com/0268b0a422ae496fad051a9720588664 (https://www.apnews.com/0268b0a422ae496fad051a9720588664)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on May 05, 2017, 05:42:17 PM
The linked article is entitled: " US tells China it has ‘no plan yet’ to meet its 2020 climate target", and it indicates that the Trump Administration has formally stated that it has no intentions of meeting America's Paris Pact pledges.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/us-tells-china-it-has-no-plan-yet-to-meet-its-2020-climate-target (https://www.carbonbrief.org/us-tells-china-it-has-no-plan-yet-to-meet-its-2020-climate-target)

Extract: "The US has no plan yet for how to meet its 2020 climate target and has made no analysis of the impact of recent policy changes, according to an official submission to the UN.

The details emerged in a series of terse, repetitive answers to an international climate action peer-review process, known as the Multilateral Assessment. The US submission, which was published this week, says “jobs, economic growth and energy independence” are its priority.

The assessment process sees countries ask each other questions about progress towards their climate pledges. The process works on a rolling basis, with the US one of 18 nations currently undergoing review along with other major emitters Russia and Japan. Note that the UK completed its review last year."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 07, 2017, 12:03:39 AM
When he was Attorney General of Oklahoma, Pruitt filed numerous suits against the EPA on behalf of fossil fuel interests in his state.  Now that he is head of the EPA, he waited to hear from the ethics office before he agreed to recuse himself from those suits.

Pruitt recuses himself from Clean Power Plan, WOTUS suits
U.S. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt has recused himself from several cases that he pursued against the agency as Oklahoma attorney general.

Pruitt has signed a recusal statement, dated yesterday, which was obtained by E&E News under the Freedom of Information Act. The four-page document lays out several lawsuits pending before the agency that Pruitt has agreed to step away from during his tenure as EPA chief.

"This recusal statement addresses all of my ethics obligations," Pruitt said in the statement.

Pruitt said he would not participate for one year after his Senate confirmation in matters involving certain parties, including the state of Oklahoma and the Rule of Law Defense Fund, a public policy group involving Republican attorneys general that targeted environmental rules.
...
https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060054153 (https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060054153)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 08, 2017, 04:38:06 PM
Why not just kill us all now?  Would be simpler.  :o  ::)

BREAKING: "The Environmental Protection Agency has dismissed at least five members of a major scientific review board, the latest signal of what critics call a campaign by the Trump administration to shrink the agency’s regulatory reach by reducing the role of academic research.

A spokesman for the E.P.A. administrator, Scott Pruitt, said he would consider replacing the academic scientists with representatives from industries whose pollution the agency is supposed to regulate, as part of the wide net it plans to cast."


https://www.facebook.com/marchforscience/posts/367901443604176 (https://www.facebook.com/marchforscience/posts/367901443604176)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 09, 2017, 07:51:27 PM
Chicago mayor Emanuel posts EPA’s deleted climate change page
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s response to the Trump administration pulling down its website detailing information about climate change: putting up his own.

The new section of the City of Chicago’s website, launched this weekend, pulls data from the archived Environmental Protection Agency page, noting, “while this information may not be readily available on the agency’s webpage right now, here in Chicago we know climate change is real and we will continue to take action to fight it.” Emanuel is promising to build the site out more in the coming weeks, using city resources.
...
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/06/chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-posts-epa-deleted-climate-change-page-238067 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/06/chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-posts-epa-deleted-climate-change-page-238067)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 14, 2017, 11:09:19 PM
This is mostly about addressing the increasing risk of "the big one" in California, but the denial discussion fits climate change, as well. 

“Our building code only asks that buildings not kill you. It does not ask that they be usable” after a quake, said Jones.

Earthquake denial gets a lot harder when you stand on top of the San Andreas fault
http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-jones-quake-05142017-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-lopez-jones-quake-05142017-story.html)
(I got a "subscription options" pop-up, but it closed after a few seconds.)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on May 15, 2017, 05:28:19 PM
From the Guardian (UK)

"Trump is deleting climate change, one site at a time

The administration has taken a hatchet to climate change language across government websites. Here are several of the more egregious examples"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/14/donald-trump-climate-change-mentions-government-websites (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/14/donald-trump-climate-change-mentions-government-websites)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 15, 2017, 10:10:39 PM
Barry Myers, AccuWeather chief executive, emerges as front-runner for NOAA’s top job

"Should Myers be Trump’s choice, he has supporters on Capitol Hill, and appears to be in good standing with the House Science Committee."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/05/15/barry-myers-accuweather-chief-executive-emerges-as-front-runner-for-noaa-top-job/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/05/15/barry-myers-accuweather-chief-executive-emerges-as-front-runner-for-noaa-top-job/)

Not mentioned in the article:
• The House Science Committee is anti-science.
• Accuweather's Joe Bastardi is a big time climate change denier.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 16, 2017, 03:36:31 AM
Trump's EPA Greenlights a Nasty pesticide: chlorpyrifos. A Month Later, It Poisons a Bunch of Farmworkers.

"Anybody that was exposed, we encourage them to seek medical attention immediately," a California public health official stated.

...
Many public health experts, scientists, and environmentalists have for years been pushing for a ban on chlorpyrifos, and last year it was looking like the Environmental Protection Agency intended to instate one....

But in March, the EPA abruptly changed its stance on chlorpyrifos, greenlighting it instead of banning it. The decision, among the first major ones made by Scott Pruitt in his tenure as EPA chief, caused outrage in public health circles. Dow AgroSciences applauded the decision. ...
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2017/05/california-farm-workers-just-got-poisoned-nasty-pesticide-greenlghted-trump (http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2017/05/california-farm-workers-just-got-poisoned-nasty-pesticide-greenlghted-trump)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on May 16, 2017, 02:01:07 PM
Barry Myers, AccuWeather chief executive, emerges as front-runner for NOAA’s top job

"Should Myers be Trump’s choice, he has supporters on Capitol Hill, and appears to be in good standing with the House Science Committee."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/05/15/barry-myers-accuweather-chief-executive-emerges-as-front-runner-for-noaa-top-job/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/05/15/barry-myers-accuweather-chief-executive-emerges-as-front-runner-for-noaa-top-job/)

Not mentioned in the article:
• The House Science Committee is anti-science.
• Accuweather's Joe Bastardi is a big time climate change denier.


What's with The Washington Post. Is this simply bad reporting, or an effort to deceive?
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Bruce Steele on May 16, 2017, 02:58:30 PM
Sigmetnow, Chlorpyrifos is damn nasty stuff. It has rendered many watersheds in California sterile for insect life. This of course limits the availability of food for fish or other creatures further up the food chain. Dursban, Lorsban( Chlorpyrifos) is regularly applied to Cole crops and used  on wine grapes and almonds. I had been waiting for the EPA to ban the crap but the Republicans have their own priorities. Again will not see issue covered in mainstream media and so consumers of vegetables have no idea they are consuming this stuff or take any responsibility for it's effects on the 
enviornment. "What you don't know won't hurt you"  idiom of content. Keep on shopping.

http://www.dowagro.com/en-us/usag/product-solution-finder/insecticides/lorsbanadvanced (http://www.dowagro.com/en-us/usag/product-solution-finder/insecticides/lorsbanadvanced)

Click on Crops for an eye opening list
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 17, 2017, 10:38:59 PM
Barry Myers, AccuWeather chief executive, emerges as front-runner for NOAA’s top job

"Should Myers be Trump’s choice, he has supporters on Capitol Hill, and appears to be in good standing with the House Science Committee."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/05/15/barry-myers-accuweather-chief-executive-emerges-as-front-runner-for-noaa-top-job/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/05/15/barry-myers-accuweather-chief-executive-emerges-as-front-runner-for-noaa-top-job/)

Not mentioned in the article:
• The House Science Committee is anti-science.
• Accuweather's Joe Bastardi is a big time climate change denier.


What's with The Washington Post. Is this simply bad reporting, or an effort to deceive?
Terry

 If you are referring to my "not mentioned" items, I would say: 1) the House Science Committee being anti-science is well known by anyone who follows their actions (thus they may have been employing sarcasm, since WaPo covers Congress quite extensively), and 2) you may need to follow climate scientists on Twitter to know about Joe Bastardi.  I know he rants there, I don't know about anywhere else.  Or maybe that is not seen as relevant.  But WaPo's reporting is normally very highly regarded.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 17, 2017, 10:40:28 PM
Trump’s nominee for USDA “chief scientist” is not a scientist
Sam Clovis, a climate change denier, has no background in science or agriculture
President Trump looks to nominate Sam Clovis, a former economics professor and conservative talk-radio host, to the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s top scientific position.

If appointed, Clovis, a climate change denier, would oversee projects ranging from food nutrition to the effects of climate change on crop development. Under the 2008 Farm Bill, this position is supposed to serve as the agency’s “chief scientist” and be chosen “from among distinguished scientists with specialized or significant experience in agricultural research, education, and economics.” Clovis checks one of these boxes. Maybe.

An early advisor to the Trump campaign, Clovis has a master’s in business administration and a doctoral degree in public administration, and appears to have no published scientific or academic work to his name. In fact, Kara McCullough, the recently-crowned Miss USA who holds a Bachelor’s of Science in chemistry, might just be more qualified to lead the office than Clovis....
https://medium.com/i-climate-scientists/trumps-nominee-for-usda-chief-scientist-is-not-a-scientist-5c2e16e3c04d
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on May 18, 2017, 12:32:45 PM

 If you are referring to my "not mentioned" items, I would say: 1) the House Science Committee being anti-science is well known by anyone who follows their actions (thus they may have been employing sarcasm, since WaPo covers Congress quite extensively), and 2) you may need to follow climate scientists on Twitter to know about Joe Bastardi.  I know he rants there, I don't know about anywhere else.  Or maybe that is not seen as relevant.  But WaPo's reporting is normally very highly regarded.
I was referring to your "not mentioned" items


1)If sarcasm was the objective it was certainly well hidden from their readership.
2)Before there was a Twitter, there was a Joe Bastardi. Within a week of becoming interested in global warming I'd identified Joe & Tony as bad actors.


Washington Post's reporting is normally highly regarded, hence my post.


Terry
P.S.
I will pay more attention to what Wapo prints as the result of this.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 20, 2017, 08:23:56 PM
Chairman of the U.S. House Science Committee.

Congressman Lamar Smith of Texas Has a Problem with Science – and with Voters
...
Smith has always been well liked by the energy industry — he has received more than $700,000 from the oil and gas industry over the course of his career, more than from any other sector — but his newfound power has clearly delighted climate deniers, as evidenced by the hero’s welcome he received when he gave the keynote address at the Heartland Institute’s Climate Conference in March.

Not everyone is pleased with Smith’s successes on behalf of polluting industries. National environmental groups are beginning to target Smith for being “one of the worst climate change deniers in Congress,” as Craig Auster of the League of Conservation Voters described him. And just as he is reaching the height of his power in Washington, Smith is facing a wave of outrage from constituents in Texas that could present the first real challenge for his seat in 30 years....
https://theintercept.com/2017/05/20/congressman-lamar-smith-of-texas-has-a-problem-with-science-and-with-voters/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on May 23, 2017, 09:38:15 PM
The Center for Biological Diversity just sued the Trump administration over climate censorship.

Lawsuit Targets Trump's Climate-change Censorship
WASHINGTON— The Center for Biological Diversity today sued the Trump administration to uncover public records showing that federal employees have been censored from using words or phrases related to climate change in formal agency communications.

Today’s lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., seeks to require four federal agencies to release climate-censorship records, in compliance with the Freedom of Information Act. The Department of Energy, Environmental Protection Agency, Department of the Interior and Department of State have failed to provide records requested by the Center or indicate when they might do so, violating deadlines established under the law.

“The Trump administration’s refusal to release public information about its climate censorship continues a dangerous and illegal pattern of anti-science denial,” said Taylor McKinnon at the Center. “Just as censorship won’t change climate science, foot-dragging and cover-ups won’t be tolerated under the public records law.”

The Center on March 30 filed Freedom of Information Act requests for all directives or communications barring or removing climate-related words or phrases from any formal agency communications. The records requests followed news reports that federal agencies had removed climate information from government websites and instructed Department of Energy staff to avoid using the phrases “climate change,” “emissions reductions” and “Paris agreement.”

The Center has filed identical requests with the Council on Environmental Quality, the Department of Agriculture, the Department of Health and Human Services, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

On March 23 the Center joined conservation biologist Stuart Pimm and the Center for Media and Democracy in a separate Freedom of Information Act request to prevent the administration from removing hundreds of environmental data sets on government websites.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, when federal agencies receive requests for the same records three or more times, they must make the records freely available to the public on their websites — a rule known as “the Beetlejuice provision.”

Records responsive to the Center’s climate censorship requests will be made available to the public and the media.
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2017/climate-change-05-23-2017.php (http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2017/climate-change-05-23-2017.php)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on May 24, 2017, 02:47:54 PM
More censorship. It seems that the fraudsters are settling in.

Interior Dept. censors climate change from news release on coastal flooding: ‘It didn’t add anything’

https://thinkprogress.org/interior-dept-censors-climate-change-89a4993400b3

Instead, according to three of the study’s co-authors, the following line was censored from the release: “Global climate change drives sea-level rise, increasing the frequency of coastal flooding.” The significance of the line is underscored by the fact it is the very first line of the study’s abstract. The Post reports that “the decision to change the news release came from officials at the Interior Department itself.”
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on May 24, 2017, 05:16:11 PM
The 2018 federal budget submitted by the Trump administration has been described as "dead in the water" given the extreme nature of cuts and defunding across just about every important government, human services, and science related program.  Here is specific detail regarding several critical ENSO and tsunami monitoring programs.  The final version of the budget will need to go through Congress, but here you see the intent of this awful administration.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on May 24, 2017, 10:51:04 PM
Trump is basically blinding NASA about climate change. This will be remembered as treason against mankind.

Trump's 2018 Budget Request Axes 5 NASA Earth-Science Missions


http://www.space.com/36989-nasa-budget-cancels-five-earth-science-missions.html (http://www.space.com/36989-nasa-budget-cancels-five-earth-science-missions.html)

The other four Earth-science projects to get the ax in the proposed 2018 budget are the Plankton, Aerosol, Cloud, ocean Ecosystem (PACE) satellite; the Orbiting Carbon Observatory-3 (OCO-3) experiment; the Climate Absolute Radiance and Refractivity Observatory (CLARREO) Pathfinder; and the Earth-viewing instruments aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) spacecraft.

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on May 24, 2017, 11:07:30 PM
Trump is basically blinding NASA about climate change. This will be remembered as treason against mankind.

Trump's 2018 Budget Request Axes 5 NASA Earth-Science Missions


http://www.space.com/36989-nasa-budget-cancels-five-earth-science-missions.html (http://www.space.com/36989-nasa-budget-cancels-five-earth-science-missions.html)

The other four Earth-science projects to get the ax in the proposed 2018 budget are the Plankton, Aerosol, Cloud, ocean Ecosystem (PACE) satellite; the Orbiting Carbon Observatory-3 (OCO-3) experiment; the Climate Absolute Radiance and Refractivity Observatory (CLARREO) Pathfinder; and the Earth-viewing instruments aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) spacecraft.


He's following in Harper's footsteps, and it was this path that lead to Harper's crushing defeat.


We're hyper aware of denier screeds and may not realize how many potential voters care deeply about environmental issues. The loud, sometimes sponsored voices screaming out against AGW can make it seem a though they are the voice of the majority, but, no matter how many soc puppets one person manipulates, he still controls only one vote.
This budget will force every congress critter to put their name for or against the environment, then face their own constituents.
Bad for the environment, bad for Trump & bad for almost all Republicans. Should make the 2018 election interesting.


Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: magnamentis on May 25, 2017, 08:27:36 PM
Trump is basically blinding NASA about climate change. This will be remembered as treason against mankind.

Trump's 2018 Budget Request Axes 5 NASA Earth-Science Missions


http://www.space.com/36989-nasa-budget-cancels-five-earth-science-missions.html (http://www.space.com/36989-nasa-budget-cancels-five-earth-science-missions.html)

The other four Earth-science projects to get the ax in the proposed 2018 budget are the Plankton, Aerosol, Cloud, ocean Ecosystem (PACE) satellite; the Orbiting Carbon Observatory-3 (OCO-3) experiment; the Climate Absolute Radiance and Refractivity Observatory (CLARREO) Pathfinder; and the Earth-viewing instruments aboard the Deep Space Climate Observatory (DSCOVR) spacecraft.


He's following in Harper's footsteps, and it was this path that lead to Harper's crushing defeat.

We're hyper aware of denier screeds and may not realize how many potential voters care deeply about environmental issues. The loud, sometimes sponsored voices screaming out against AGW can make it seem a though they are the voice of the majority, but, no matter how many soc puppets one person manipulates, he still controls only one vote.
This budget will force every congress critter to put their name for or against the environment, then face their own constituents.
Bad for the environment, bad for Trump & bad for almost all Republicans. Should make the 2018 election interesting.

Terry

extremely accurate statement, once upon a time when everyone was afraid from an attack by the USSR of some kind i always said that i'm not afraid because not one government in history survived agains it's citizens and the prevailing public needs and opinion. hence you're spot on, it will only add to the downfall of those who try to protect their share of the cake now and as someone else said in this forum, it will be remembered as a crime "treason" agains mankind. bold words but not in a mood to repeat the lot to go into details, bad for everyone, exactly as you put it, thanks.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on June 03, 2017, 06:00:41 PM
This budget will force every congress critter to put their name for or against the environment, then face their own constituents.
Bad for the environment, bad for Trump & bad for almost all Republicans. Should make the 2018 election interesting.

Per the linked article the GOP conservative base is energized by anti-climate tribalism.  I think that it is time that the GOP leadership man-up and take responsibility for their actions, and start embracing science rather than tribalism:

Article title: “Climate change as culture war: Trump’s Paris pullout is a giant middle finger to the left”

http://www.salon.com/2017/06/03/climate-change-as-culture-war-trumps-paris-pullout-is-a-giant-middle-finger-to-the-left/ (http://www.salon.com/2017/06/03/climate-change-as-culture-war-trumps-paris-pullout-is-a-giant-middle-finger-to-the-left/)

Extract: “For American conservatives, climate change is not fundamentally understood as an environmental, economic or moral issue. Instead, it has become a symbolic front in the culture war that has metastasized in the past couple of decades, touching on every aspect of life, from how we eat to the kind of cars we drive.

“Tribalism has also entirely subsumed the US conservative movement,” David Roberts at Vox wrote on Friday. “The intellectual core has all but rotted; what remains are older, rural and suburban white men and their wives, angry that their tribe is being demoted from its hegemonic position.”

But American conservatives, including not just Trump but most Republican voters and the vast majority of GOP politicians, see climate change as a phony problem invented by liberals and made up to emasculate white men by making them drive girly little cars. It’s seen strictly in terms of the tribal struggle that Roberts describes. The fear of being contaminated by “liberal” habits runs so deep on the right that researchers at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania found in 2013  that advertising lightbulbs as environment-friendly made conservatives less likely to buy them.”
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Bruce Steele on June 04, 2017, 07:46:04 AM
Abrupt, Maybe we liberals need to quit thinking we can somehow convert the conservatives and look at this as a battle the same way the conservatives see it. Hit'em where it hurts just like withdrawing from the Paris accords is intended to hurt, hurt us , hurt us damn liberals. So how do we strategically hurt the conservatives?  Hit'em in the corn, crush their soybean markets. Spread far and wide the pain just like they will continue to spread their agenda, an agenda of pain directed at us. And no , renewable energy won't break them in time. We have only two or three years not the twenty or thirty solar will take. You gotta hit GMO's like it matters, crush their markets. Bring down some economic pain on the people promoting Donnie and his policies. Not the Russia crap but bottom line war on the the people supporting his agenda. To some degree singling out his core base and crushing them. They have guns, they have rural votes but honestly they are economically vulnerable and with a little coordination they can be defeated fair and square, in the markets.
 We Americans are but 350 million of 7.6 billion people. The markets for corn, Mexico or Africa, or our Asian markets for soya are international and it is those international markets that can either allow republicans and their royal trump to drive down international agreements like Paris or on a larger scale ,international agreements in general. America first is a warning shot. But it is just like it is posed , America first and fight back if you can. A challenge to Mexico, a challenge to Africa, Pacific Islanders , Asia in general , Korea .  Do you want cheap commodities or .... Something like a future?

My post # 1000. What should be done will hurt me. I can take a little more pain for a future that benefits the greater good. This is a battle ,not a conversation. There is a lot of anger out there and we better know how we need to fight to win, or we won't.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: FridaF on June 04, 2017, 01:10:04 PM
I like Trump. Finally someone is telling the truth without any stupid political correctness, for example about illegal immigration.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Neven on June 04, 2017, 02:33:22 PM
Welcome, FridaF.

I like Trump. Finally someone is telling the truth without any stupid political correctness, for example about illegal immigration.

That's another discussion. What do you think about the Trump administration's actions with regards to science and the large-scale attempt to make AGW denial official? Of course, there is some political correctness involved with AGW, but to me this looks like throwing away the baby with the bath water. And the bath tub as well. And the toilet.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on June 04, 2017, 04:48:56 PM
Bruce


As a Canadian I see "Put America First" as a declaration of economic war. Not a hot war, but war by other means.


Trump drew the lines quite clearly, it's America against the world. While this may resonate in the "Heartland" it sounds, to me at least, like the bellowing of a well armed gambler who, after looking at his hand, demands that we play 4s wild. We may have a 4 in our hand, but that isn't the game we were playing.


Some will continue to play. Some will fold and start a new game without "The Donald". None will be happy.


Is Donald just a belligerent drunk who'll be fine in the morning? Is he a sadist who revels in the pain he causes? Will his successor follow his lead, or is this merely an aberration? Do Donald and Pence represent Twenty First Century America. Is America the country of Bush & Chaney or Obama & Biden?


Each country, every trade block, and all international players are asking these questions. Their answers will vary. Have Americans played fair in the past? in recent years? Have they ever played fair? Is America a good international citizen that follows the rules? When America claims itself to be "The Exception", what are they telling us?


We know that America has the most expensive military in the world, by far, but we know that the Chinese can build a high rise in 15 days. Do these fact matter? How do they matter?


I think that the world is holding it's collective breath. I think the questions above, and more, are being asked, and I think actions based on the answers arrived at are forthcoming.


America is not going quietly into the night. Neither is the rest of the world.


Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Väina on June 04, 2017, 05:34:30 PM

Extract: “For American conservatives, climate change is not fundamentally understood as an environmental, economic or moral issue. Instead, it has become a symbolic front in the culture war that has metastasized in the past couple of decades, touching on every aspect of life, from how we eat to the kind of cars we drive.

But American conservatives, including not just Trump but most Republican voters and the vast majority of GOP politicians, see climate change as a phony problem invented by liberals and made up to emasculate white men by making them drive girly little cars.
...”

I think one should be careful in interpreting polling results. Quite a lot depends on the questions and background. My impression based on the last 10 years of polling results is that the US republican voters still majorly support actions to curb AGW, if asked that. But the results might be different if the question is given as a choice between alternatives, depending on alternatives. Thus one can never be entirely sure unless the question is specific enough (for example, a support for a carbon tax of 100 USD per ton of carbon, with all of it equally redistributed to the US citizens as dividends according to the 100% carbon tax and dividend scheme).

I'd say the definition of true conservatives is the ones who try to follow the precautionary principle (trying to avoid type II errors).

I simply cringe to see tying conservatism to destruction and leftism to protecting nature. In these parts of Europe where I live, it is usually the other way around - true conservatives are the only true greens. In my view, tribalism is what happens when one destroys nativism.
So I guess the question is, how to more accurately label (tribal) groups.

PS. Many thanks to AbruptSLR and Neven and other posters here. I have been reading ASIB and ASIF almost since the very start of it. Trump is destroying EPA and US climate science, but he is not a conservative to my mind.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: magnamentis on June 04, 2017, 05:35:00 PM
Bruce


As a Canadian I see "Put America First" as a declaration of economic war. Not a hot war, but war by other means.


Trump drew the lines quite clearly, it's America against the world. While this may resonate in the "Heartland" it sounds, to me at least, like the bellowing of a well armed gambler who, after looking at his hand, demands that we play 4s wild. We may have a 4 in our hand, but that isn't the game we were playing.


Some will continue to play. Some will fold and start a new game without "The Donald". None will be happy.


Is Donald just a belligerent drunk who'll be fine in the morning? Is he a sadist who revels in the pain he causes? Will his successor follow his lead, or is this merely an aberration? Do Donald and Pence represent Twenty First Century America. Is America the country of Bush & Chaney or Obama & Biden?


Each country, every trade block, and all international players are asking these questions. Their answers will vary. Have Americans played fair in the past? in recent years? Have they ever played fair? Is America a good international citizen that follows the rules? When America claims itself to be "The Exception", what are they telling us?


We know that America has the most expensive military in the world, by far, but we know that the Chinese can build a high rise in 15 days. Do these fact matter? How do they matter?


I think that the world is holding it's collective breath. I think the questions above, and more, are being asked, and I think actions based on the answers arrived at are forthcoming.


America is not going quietly into the night. Neither is the rest of the world.


Terry

another great post, not much to add but as to building the high-rise in 15 days, one of the key factors in WWII and why allies finally won was the capability of the US to spit out thousands of airplanes of quality, tanks, vessels as well as jeeps etc, in "felt" no time.

so if we translate the capability of building a 30 story building in 15 days and high-speed rail tracks in "felt" no time and at quality as well, i think this could indeed be a factor should we ever get to the  point where it counts. i suspect that you perhaps even were thinking into this direction when asking the question?

since my current official domicile is still in shenzhen/prc i have a bit of an idea how things are going over there and i have to say that even though in switzerland most of the things are close to perfection, i'm permanently impressed by china, their ways, the quality as well as by their history, including all the stuff westerners claim to have invented while in reality they have ;) and long ago.

kudos,  a lot of good stuff for my gusto from your side, a lot of insight and much more valuable IMO than posting images that everyone has access to anyways.

i think the key to everything is how think and act while the analyzes would only serve to find out what (would be ) necessary while i have little hope that this world will ever learn the smart and smooth way, but to continue to learn the hard way for the umpteenth time.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on June 04, 2017, 08:25:52 PM
So I guess the question is, how to more accurately label (tribal) groups.

PS. Many thanks to AbruptSLR and Neven and other posters here. I have been reading ASIB and ASIF almost since the very start of it. Trump is destroying EPA and US climate science, but he is not a conservative to my mind.

Väina

Thanks for honoring me with your first post.  Tribal labels are tricky things and do not necessarily come from polls (for example polls indicate that 'conservatives' are more likely to acknowledge that climate change is real if the poll question indicates that geoengineering will allow society to address many of the negative impacts of climate change).  However, in my opinion, to effectively address climate change we need better governance, but to get better governance we need better politics; which is a function of tribalism and power; or rather, the reduction of tribalism in the Hegelian sense  that as the thesis-antithesis-synthesis dialectic progresses, dependence on '-isms' should progressively get reduced.

Best,
ASLR
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on June 04, 2017, 10:38:07 PM

Magnamentis

Thanks


The US certainly did outproduce Germany, and so did Russia. By mid 1941 they had built more than 22,000 tanks - more than the rest of the world combined, and by wars end they'd produced more than 60,000 T-34s alone.
Chinese production, coupled with Russian production, linked by the 50,000k of Russian and 40,000k of Chinese electrified rail and the New Silk Road will give Asia a manufacturing and distribution base that will be hard to equal. When India and Africa are linked to the system, Europe will need to decide who is a better fit for her needs and wants. London received it's first Chinese rail shipment in January.


Trump may be helping them in their cogitations.



I'm of an age that I lived through the "Bamboo Curtain", in fact a much older cousin played in the Toronto Symphony that began the "Cultural Exchange" that eventually broke down the wall. He returned after months in China with wonderful stories, eg An elderly female harpist lost an outrageously expensive diamond ring her 1st day in China. It took months to catch up to her, but someone had found it in the street & turned it in to the authorities. No expectation of reward, just the knowledge that he or she had done the right thing.
At that time our propaganda depicted them as poor communist dupes living hand to mouth in little better than mud huts. His photo's showed well dressed, well mannered people in beautiful cities, living much as we would like to - except with very few cars at that time.


A Chinese friend here is doing post doctoral work at UW & another from Sweden returned after half a year studying Chinese ball bearing manufacturing. The world is opening up.


Travel, diversity, hopefully an end to propaganda. It's a wonderful world, if we don't screw it up.
Terry

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on June 09, 2017, 09:49:35 PM
Eric Holthaus:  Whoa. France just launched makeourplanetgreatagain.fr and is offering grants of up to 1.5 million Euro for climate scientists to move there.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/873229691385020416
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on June 10, 2017, 03:08:34 AM
Dropping this here in the interest of keeping politics out of the "cars" thread.  Her once again we see the most willing and potentially effective checks against the Trump administration's policies to be at the state level and within the courts.  A group of attorneys general is promising a battle against proposed roll back of fuel efficiency standards.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AGSchneiderman/status/873185635519143937

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on June 10, 2017, 03:58:30 PM
pileus wrote:
... A group of attorneys general is promising a battle against proposed roll back of fuel efficiency standards.
...

This is so great.   Just the threat of taking it to court (plus the attendant publicity, should it happen) will give ICE automakers more pressure to take the switch to EVs seriously.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Csnavywx on June 11, 2017, 06:43:33 PM
pileus wrote:
... A group of attorneys general is promising a battle against proposed roll back of fuel efficiency standards.
...

This is so great.   Just the threat of taking it to court (plus the attendant publicity, should it happen) will give ICE automakers more pressure to take the switch to EVs seriously.

Anybody know where they get the $1655 figure from? I can't find anything that matches it. There was a 2016 study, but it doesn't cite that number anywhere (it's much higher in most cases). The underlying data and assumptions made about cost tech compliance and net vehicle price increases going forward aren't exactly made clear either.


 
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on June 11, 2017, 08:43:29 PM
 :o  ::)  >:(

Trump Names BP Oil Spill Lawyer, Climate Policy Foe as Top DOJ Environment Attorney
Jeffrey Bossert Clark, a lawyer who has repeatedly challenged the scientific foundations of U.S. climate policy and was part of a legal team that represented BP in lawsuits stemming from the nation's worst oil spill, the 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster, was nominated by President Donald Trump on Tuesday to serve as the Justice Department's top environmental lawyer.
...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062017/trump-names-bp-oil-spill-lawyer-climate-policy-foe-top-doj-environment-attorney
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on June 11, 2017, 08:49:59 PM
pileus wrote:
... A group of attorneys general is promising a battle against proposed roll back of fuel efficiency standards.
...

This is so great.   Just the threat of taking it to court (plus the attendant publicity, should it happen) will give ICE automakers more pressure to take the switch to EVs seriously.

Anybody know where they get the $1655 figure from? I can't find anything that matches it. There was a 2016 study, but it doesn't cite that number anywhere (it's much higher in most cases). The underlying data and assumptions made about cost tech compliance and net vehicle price increases going forward aren't exactly made clear either.

Quoting an EPA report:
Trump fuel economy rollback will kill jobs and cost each car buyer $1,650
Trump’s misguided move to appease the ever-myopic U.S. auto industry would undo efficiency gains that will provide consumers $98 billion in total net benefits, primarily from reduced fuel use. Individual car buyers would lose “a net savings of $1,650” (even after accounting for the higher vehicle cost) as the EPA concluded in its final January “Determination on the Appropriateness” of the standards....
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-fuel-economy-rollback-would-kill-jobs-and-cost-each-car-buyer-1-650-aa2da0479b7d
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on June 27, 2017, 09:06:24 PM
Currently watching Dept of Energy Secretary Rick "Dancing with the Stars" Perry present on "American Energy DOMINANCE" at the White House press briefing.  It is a complete assault on science and reason and, for the lack of a better term, utter bullshit.

I assume this will get a lot of commentary within the climate science community (heads are likely exploding as we speak).  I'd encourage you to watch a replay if you can.

While simultaneously declaring the the "science isn't settled" and denigrating scientists, he is inviting a debate and dialogue.  Surely there will be many ready to accept this challenge.

Other themes are a new focus on nuclear power and what appears to be a massive expansion of fossil fuels, especially our good friend coal.  He is also making references to clean energy, which while welcome, appears to be more a deflection and attempt to distract from what is really a fossil fuel centric strategy.

Ironically, this is likely to create energy on climate change and fuel the resistance even more.

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on June 28, 2017, 09:56:43 PM
Currently watching Dept of Energy Secretary Rick "Dancing with the Stars" Perry present on "American Energy DOMINANCE" at the White House press briefing.  It is a complete assault on science and reason and, for the lack of a better term, utter bullshit.

I assume this will get a lot of commentary within the climate science community (heads are likely exploding as we speak).  I'd encourage you to watch a replay if you can.

While simultaneously declaring the the "science isn't settled" and denigrating scientists, he is inviting a debate and dialogue.  Surely there will be many ready to accept this challenge.

Other themes are a new focus on nuclear power and what appears to be a massive expansion of fossil fuels, especially our good friend coal.  He is also making references to clean energy, which while welcome, appears to be more a deflection and attempt to distract from what is really a fossil fuel centric strategy.

Ironically, this is likely to create energy on climate change and fuel the resistance even more.

Following up on the press event with this summary article -

Rick Perry wants to hold a dangerous, totally BS debate on global warming

http://mashable.com/2017/06/27/rick-perry-climate-comments-red-team-debate/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link#Dy0g2N3FRqqK (http://mashable.com/2017/06/27/rick-perry-climate-comments-red-team-debate/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link#Dy0g2N3FRqqK)

Perry then cited a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed by Steven Koonin (whom he called "Kooniz"), a professor at New York University, who recently called for a public climate science debate to challenge the mainstream scientific judgement on human-caused global warming.

Koonin's view, which Perry endorsed, is that a "red team" would challenge consensus findings from scientific reports, and a "blue team" would have the opportunity to respond. This is similar to how the military games out certain scenarios and spacecraft engineers test critical systems or investigate accidents, but it's not how science works.

Perry and Pruitt aren't thinking of some magical new idea that scientists haven't considered before. In fact, peer review — the process by which studies are reviewed by experts before publication — is basically its own "red team," and every major climate assessment has already been through it.

"The people who say the science is settled. It's done. If you don't believe that you're a skeptic, a luddite. I don't buy that," Perry said.

"This is America. Have a conversation. Come out of the shadows of hiding behind, you know, your political statements and let's talk about it. What's wrong with that?" Perry asked.

"I can be convinced, but why not let's talk about it?"
-----
These researchers, including Benjamin Santer of the Energy Department's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, see the idea for what it is: An attempt to put climate deniers on par with mainstream researchers, and elevate views that have been shot down again and again in the scientific literature.

"Such calls for special teams of investigators are not about honest scientific debate. They are dangerous attempts to elevate the status of minority opinions, and to undercut the legitimacy, objectivity and transparency of existing climate science," they wrote.

Yes, it's true that claims that "the science is settled" sound suspicious to many people. It's also true that calls for a reasonable debate by reasonable-sounding people like Rick Perry may be tempting.

But with the red/blue team idea, Perry and Pruitt are trying to drive a dagger into the heart of the scientific process, which rests on impartial peer review, and the constant testing of hypotheses. This comes at the same time Pruitt is dismantling science advisory panels at the EPA, and Perry is shuttering climate offices at his agency.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on June 29, 2017, 03:22:02 AM
The linked article indicates that Democrats are demanding investigation of potential witness tampering by the EPA against the EPA's top science advisor:

"EPA Accused of Interfering With Top Science Adviser’s Congressional Testimony"

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epa-accused-interfering-top-science-adviser-s-congressional-testimony-n777916 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/epa-accused-interfering-top-science-adviser-s-congressional-testimony-n777916)

Extract: "Congressional Democrats have demanded an independent investigation into allegations that a senior Environmental Protection Agency official interfered politically with congressional testimony by one of the agency's top scientific advisers.

In testimony before a House science subcommittee on May 23, the scientist, Deborah Swackhamer, chairwoman of the EPA's Board of Scientific Counselors, raised numerous concerns about what she saw as a political agenda at the EPA to "marginalize" and "politicize" scientific data used to shape agency policy since Scott Pruitt was confirmed as the agency's administrator in February."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on July 01, 2017, 03:26:11 AM
If science gives Team Trump news that they doesn't like, they call it bad science:

"Scott Pruitt wants to hijack the peer-review process to push bad climate science"

https://thinkprogress.org/scott-pruitt-climate-science-performance-54c018bb09b5

Extract: "EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt is undertaking a formal initiative to evaluate climate science, according to reporting from E&E News White House reporter Emily Holden. According to Holden, the program will feature a “red team, blue team” approach meant to provide “back-and-forth critique” of climate science.

But actual climate scientists argue that “back-and-forth critique” already exists in climate science: It’s called the peer-review process.

“The system they describe is precisely what scientific peer-review is,” Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Center at Pennsylvania State University, told ThinkProgress via email. “The reality is that the only thing these folks don’t like is the conclusion that the scientific community (that is, the world’s scientists, literally) has arrived at — that climate change is real, human-caused, and a threat.”"
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on July 01, 2017, 04:20:13 PM
I think that if something like a red vs blue for climate change was done fairly, with authentic scientist, mathematicians, engineers and policy experts in both sides, plenty of time for rebutal, and public commentary welcomed,  the debate of climate change would be over. We could get on debating what to do about it and doing something about it.

But given the propensity of Trump and his accomplices to lie and deceive this might be just a farce. They'll load the dice on their favor. They'll get some luke warmers on the blue team and rabid deniers on the red team. The rules will also heavily favor the red team. I wouldn't be surprised if the referees are the Lamar Smith types.  At the end, they will deceivingly conclude that global warming is real and man made, but that no action is required. That way they get what they want. Delaying action to prolong profits.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: ghoti on July 01, 2017, 09:56:02 PM
I think that if something like a red vs blue for climate change was done fairly

Dream on. We've seen this movie before. Read Rabett Run's take on it.

http://rabett.blogspot.ca/2017/06/team-b-red-teaming-and-steve-koonin.html (http://rabett.blogspot.ca/2017/06/team-b-red-teaming-and-steve-koonin.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on July 05, 2017, 02:58:20 PM
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.cdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F170509115137-epa-pruitt-exlarge-169.jpg&hash=ab0075e6e633d254ce408ada979ac76d)

This, very sadly, speaks for itself.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on July 07, 2017, 04:58:50 PM
Trump's actions are encouraging climate sceptics to replace doubts about science with doubts about the motives of consensus scientists.

Title: "How climate scepticism turned into something more dangerous"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/07/climate-change-denial-scepticism-cynicism-politics (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/07/climate-change-denial-scepticism-cynicism-politics)

Extract: "Doubts about the science are being replaced by doubts about the motives of scientists and their political supporters. Once this kind of cynicism takes hold, is there any hope for the truth?

Last month Donald Trump announced his intention to withdraw the United States from the Paris climate accord. For his supporters, it provided evidence, at last, that the president is a man of his word. He may not have kept many campaign promises, but he kept this one. For his numerous critics it is just another sign of how little Trump cares about evidence of any kind. His decision to junk the Paris accord confirms Trump as the poster politician for the “post-truth” age."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on July 08, 2017, 11:00:32 PM
I know it's easy to post images of idiots behaving badly, but for crying out loud.

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/320/cpsprodpb/A947/production/_96853334_pence.jpg)

What are we waiting for, assembled in the forum?
 
            The barbarians are due here today.
 
 
Why isn’t anything happening in the senate?
Why do the senators sit there without legislating?
 
            Because the barbarians are coming today.
            What laws can the senators make now?
            Once the barbarians are here, they’ll do the legislating.

C.P. Cavafy, Waiting for the Barbarians
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 14, 2017, 02:18:57 AM
Hey! Congress voted to let the military study climate change!

House defeats amendment to strip climate study from Defense bill
The House voted 185-234 to defeat Peters’ amendment and keep the study in the bill.

Forty-six Republicans voted against Perry’s amendment. Two Republicans, Reps. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.), argued against it during floor debate earlier Thursday.

The effects of climate change “are drivers of geopolitical instability and degrade the security of the United States.” Stefanik said.

“We would be remiss in our efforts to protect our national security to not fully account for the risk climate change poses to our bases, our readiness and to the fulfillment of our armed services mission.”
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/341961-house-defeats-amendment-to-strip-climate-study-from-defense-bill (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/341961-house-defeats-amendment-to-strip-climate-study-from-defense-bill)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 14, 2017, 02:23:37 AM
I know it's easy to post images of idiots behaving badly, but for crying out loud.

<snip>

I read that Marco Rubio (at the left of your photo), dared him to do it. So this was childishness, as much as stupidity.
Such are our congressfolk.  ::)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on July 14, 2017, 06:13:07 PM
The linked NOAA announcement about the AGGI makes no mention of the anthropogenic contribution to the 40% increase since 1990, and it does not note that the AGGI uses a GWP100 of 25 for methane (which is actually over 35).  It looks like Team Trump has put pressure on NOAA management to toe the new Trump Administration spin on science:

"NOAA’s Greenhouse Gas Index up 40 percent since 1990"

http://www.noaa.gov/news/noaa-s-greenhouse-gas-index-up-40-percent-since-1990 (http://www.noaa.gov/news/noaa-s-greenhouse-gas-index-up-40-percent-since-1990)

Extract: "NOAA’s Annual Greenhouse Gas Index, which tracks the warming influence of long-lived greenhouse gases, has increased by 40 percent from 1990 to 2016 — with most of that attributable to rising carbon dioxide levels, according to NOAA climate scientists."

See also:

"NOAA erases ‘human activity’ from news release on soaring greenhouse gases"

https://thinkprogress.org/noaa-erases-human-activity-from-emissions-release-1ed475d26bcc (https://thinkprogress.org/noaa-erases-human-activity-from-emissions-release-1ed475d26bcc)

Extract: "In a truly shocking news release on its Annual Greenhouse Gas Index, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has erased any reference to “human activity” or fossil fuels. The index monitors the warming influence of greenhouse gases like CO2.

Last year, NOAA’s news release for the index featured the picture of flaring gas from fossil fuel extraction (see top image). The release began by stating, “human activity has increased the direct warming effect of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere by 50 percent above pre-industrial levels during the past 25 years, according to NOAA’s 10th annual Greenhouse Gas Index.”"
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: rboyd on July 14, 2017, 08:23:48 PM
it does not note that the AGGI uses a GWP100 of 25 for methane (which is actually over 35). 

Its bad enough that the AGGI is going up at 3-4ppm per year this decade, much faster than just CO2, I didn't know that they were also underestimating the methane GWP100 by 40% (with a GWP100 of 35 we would be well past the 500ppm CO2e level [about 520?], maybe that's why they are still using 25?)

I would have thought that the use of a GWP20 would be very instructive, given the short-lived nature of methane in the atmosphere and concerns about triggering feedbacks in the short term.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on July 14, 2017, 08:57:15 PM
Its bad enough that the AGGI is going up at 3-4ppm per year this decade, much faster than just CO2, I didn't know that they were also underestimating the methane GWP100 by 40% (with a GWP100 of 35 we would be well past the 500ppm CO2e level [about 520?], maybe that's why they are still using 25?)

I would have thought that the use of a GWP20 would be very instructive, given the short-lived nature of methane in the atmosphere and concerns about triggering feedbacks in the short term.

Here is a repost from the Human Stupidity thread indicating a CO2-equiv. of 521 ppm:

The linked NOAA website entitled: "THE NOAA ANNUAL GREENHOUSE GAS INDEX (AGGI)" was updated in Spring of 2017 with GHG data through the end of 2016.  I note that if one assumes that the GWP100 for methane is 35 instead of 25 (per AR5), then NOAA's calculated value for the CO2-eq for 2016 would be 521ppm instead of 489ppm; which is a big difference, and one that NOAA should publically acknowledge.

https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/aggi.html (https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/aggi.html)

 Global Radiative Forcing, CO2-equivalent mixing ratio, and the AGGI
                         Global Radiative Forcing (W m-2)           CO2-eq
                                                                                     (ppm)        AGGI
Year     CO2     CH4    N2O   CFC12 CFC11 15-minor  Total Total   1990 = 1   %change

2013   1.882  0.496   0.184   0.167   0.059   0.114  2.901   478      1.340        2.0
2014   1.908  0.499   0.187   0.166   0.058   0.116  2.935   481      1.356        1.6
2015   1.939  0.504   0.190   0.165   0.058   0.118  2.974   485      1.374        1.8
2016   1.985  0.507   0.193   0.164   0.057   0.121  3.027   489      1.399        2.5

CH4   ΔF = β(M½ - Mo½) - [f(M,No) - f(Mo,No)]   β = 0.036
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 15, 2017, 03:23:27 AM
Dept. of Energy chief Rick Perry biased the study with the hope of finding Renewables: Bad; Fossil Fuels: Good.  Will he alter the results to fit his expectations?

Renewable Energy Not a Threat to Grid, Draft of U.S. Study Finds
In April, Perry launched the grid study with an eye to examining whether policies that favor wind and solar energy are accelerating the retirement of coal and nuclear plants critical to ensuring reliable power supplies. With President Donald Trump pledging to reverse regulations that have harmed coal, the study was viewed by critics as a way the administration would justify curtailing the surging expansion of wind and solar power and provide help to coal plants.

But the draft report concludes: "Grid operators are using technologies, standards and practices to assure that they can continue operating the grid reliably."
...
The career officials at the department found that energy efficiency, battery storage and demand response were helping the reliability of the grid, changing it from the way it had operated in the past, but not endangering the provision of electricity, the May draft showed.
...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-14/renewable-energy-not-a-threat-to-grid-draft-of-u-s-study-finds (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-14/renewable-energy-not-a-threat-to-grid-draft-of-u-s-study-finds)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on July 15, 2017, 11:01:12 AM
Trump aims to use UN climate fund for coal plants

The Trump administration is angling to use a United Nations climate change adaptation fund to pay for the construction of coal plants instead, Bloomberg News reports.

An official told Bloomberg that the White House is pushing to use the Green Climate Fund, which the U.S. has contributed $1 billion to, for more "clean coal" power plants around the world.

The Green Climate Fund is a U.N. effort designed to send contributions from rich countries to developing nations who are bracing for the worst impact of climate change.

Some of the programs the GCF has funded include hydropower projects in the Solomon Islands and Tajikistan and a renewable energy push in Egypt. A Trump official told Bloomberg the U.S. would push to spend future money on “clean coal” and other power plants that aim to produce fewer carbon emissions than existing power facilities.

One of President Trump’s main complaints about the Paris climate agreement was the $3 billion pledge the Trump administration made to the GCF. Former President Barack Obama was able to contribute $1 billion before he left office earlier this year, and Trump has said the U.S. will stop future payments to the fund.

But the U.S. still has a seat on the GCF’s board by virtue of its previous contributions. The GCF funds projects on a consensus basis, making it more difficult for the U.S. to push a coal project through without buy-in from other nations.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 15, 2017, 01:52:15 PM
Fighting back!

Trump’s ‘drill, baby, drill’ energy policies are being met by ‘sue, baby, sue’
President Trump promised to grow jobs by rolling back Obama-era energy and pollution rules. And he’s fulfilling his pledge, but not how he intended. In just six months, Trump’s policies have resulted in a surge in employment — for environmental lawyers.

Since Trump took office, environmental groups and Democratic state attorneys general have filed more than four dozen lawsuits challenging his executive orders and decisions by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Interior Department and other agencies. Environmental organizations are hiring extra lawyers. Federal agencies are requesting bigger legal defense budgets.

The first round of legal skirmishes has mostly gone to the environmentalists. Earlier this month, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit blocked the administration from delaying Obama-era rules aimed at reducing oil industry releases of methane, a potent greenhouse gas. On June 14, a federal judge ruled against permits issued to complete construction of the Dakota Access pipeline, a partial victory for the Standing Rock Sioux tribe, which claims its hunting and fishing grounds are threatened by the oil pipeline.
...
Democratic attorneys general are now ramping up their own fundraising and are filing or joining in suits against Trump’s environmental, immigration and education policies. AGs such as California’s Xavier Becerra, Pennsylvania’s Josh Shapiro and Washington state’s Bob Ferguson are all raising their profiles with these lawsuits. All are seen as contenders for future seats as governor or U.S. senator.
...
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article161071669.html (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article161071669.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on July 15, 2017, 10:39:49 PM
Trump aims to use UN climate fund for coal plants

The Trump administration is angling to use a United Nations climate change adaptation fund to pay for the construction of coal plants instead, Bloomberg News reports.

An official told Bloomberg that the White House is pushing to use the Green Climate Fund, which the U.S. has contributed $1 billion to, for more "clean coal" power plants around the world.

The Green Climate Fund is a U.N. effort designed to send contributions from rich countries to developing nations who are bracing for the worst impact of climate change.

Some of the programs the GCF has funded include hydropower projects in the Solomon Islands and Tajikistan and a renewable energy push in Egypt. A Trump official told Bloomberg the U.S. would push to spend future money on “clean coal” and other power plants that aim to produce fewer carbon emissions than existing power facilities.

One of President Trump’s main complaints about the Paris climate agreement was the $3 billion pledge the Trump administration made to the GCF. Former President Barack Obama was able to contribute $1 billion before he left office earlier this year, and Trump has said the U.S. will stop future payments to the fund.

But the U.S. still has a seat on the GCF’s board by virtue of its previous contributions. The GCF funds projects on a consensus basis, making it more difficult for the U.S. to push a coal project through without buy-in from other nations.
I'm guessing the bolded should read Obama administration?


Needing a consensus WRT spending GCF's funds probably means that no money will be spent until Trump gets a coal project through. They might have been better of without Obama's well meaning, but poisonous billion dollar gift.


Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on July 17, 2017, 07:31:37 PM
The linked article discusses how the Koch Brothers are influencing Trump's attacks on climate action:

This is how the Kochs’ anti-renewable agenda becomes White House policy

https://thinkprogress.org/obscure-think-tank-gains-influence-1644feb0b813

Extract: "Koch-tied officials “got their wish” with Trump’s attacks on climate action, environment."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 18, 2017, 12:32:02 AM
The U.S. Congress wants to cancel satellites that would show for certain the earth is warming.

Donald Trump's $10 trillion climate mistake
Climate change skeptics claim that the science is unsettled while simultaneously proposing to end studies that would settle it. This posture would be ironic and slightly amusing if it wasn't so flagrantly dangerous to the future of human civilization on Earth.

The latest iteration of this ludicrous hypocrisy was on full display last week when the House appropriations committee carved another $50 million from NASA's Earth science division, on top of the already severe 2018 cuts requested by the Trump administration. If eventually endorsed by Congress, the reductions will leave Earth scientists unable to fill gaps in data considered crucial to understanding the state of the planet, thus perpetuating the "unsettled science" that deniers profess to abhor....
http://theweek.com/articles/712207/donald-trumps-10-trillion-climate-mistake (http://theweek.com/articles/712207/donald-trumps-10-trillion-climate-mistake)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on July 18, 2017, 06:02:29 PM
Blame Trump, he's guilty as hell, but save some of the rage for the Republicans. My understanding from the above is that the Republican Congress is proposing cuts over and above what Trump has asked for.


Trump is terrible, Republicans are even worse.


Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 18, 2017, 07:54:14 PM
This bipartisan group in the U.S. Congress is finding climate change issues they can (mostly) agree on -- and vote in a block to make a difference. 
See Reply #258 above about the defense bill defeat:
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1858.msg120748.html#msg120748 (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1858.msg120748.html#msg120748)

Curbelo’s gang of moderate Republicans defeats anti-climate change legislation
Taurel said that funding for green energy, preparing for the effects of climate change and stopping offshore drilling are three policy areas where moderate Republicans could join Democrats, but that more Republicans must speak about ways to reduce carbon emissions.

This is called the Climate Solutions Caucus, so that’s the key kind of yardstick they should be measured by,” Taurel said. “To what extent are they supporting solutions to climate change?”

Curbelo argues he’s doing his part by urging his colleagues to buck conservatives in Congress.

“I assume that now when we get into appropriations season there will be many amendments where I assume our group is going to be critical to blocking bad policy,” Curbelo said last month.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article161467618.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article161467618.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on July 20, 2017, 05:06:48 PM
I’m a scientist. I’m blowing the whistle on the Trump administration.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/im-a-scientist-the-trump-administration-reassigned-me-for-speaking-up-about-climate-change/2017/07/19/389b8dce-6b12-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/im-a-scientist-the-trump-administration-reassigned-me-for-speaking-up-about-climate-change/2017/07/19/389b8dce-6b12-11e7-9c15-177740635e83_story.html)

I am not a member of the deep state. I am not big government.

I am a scientist, a policy expert, a civil servant and a worried citizen. Reluctantly, as of today, I am also a whistleblower on an administration that chooses silence over science.

Nearly seven years ago, I came to work for the Interior Department, where, among other things, I’ve helped endangered communities in Alaska prepare for and adapt to a changing climate. But on June 15, I was one of about 50 senior department employees who received letters informing us of involuntary reassignments. Citing a need to “improve talent development, mission delivery and collaboration,” the letter informed me that I was reassigned to an unrelated job in the accounting office that collects royalty checks from fossil fuel companies.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 21, 2017, 08:44:31 PM
Quoting the Reply #243 above:
Eric Holthaus:  Whoa. France just launched makeourplanetgreatagain.fr and is offering grants of up to 1.5 million Euro for climate scientists to move there.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/873229691385020416 (https://mobile.twitter.com/ericholthaus/status/873229691385020416)

Now this:
Hundreds of climate scientists, including many from the United States, have applied to work in France under a €60-million (US$69-million) scheme set up by the country's president, Emmanuel Macron, after his US counterpart Donald Trump rejected the Paris accord on global warming. And Germany has announced that it will set up a similar programme to lure researchers.

Macron launched his ‘Make Our Planet Great Again’ initiative on 8 June, seeking to entice researchers in other countries to France with offers of 4-year grants worth up to €1.5 million. Six weeks on, the programme has been flooded with applicants, says Anne Peyroche, a biologist and the chief research officer of the CNRS, France’s national basic-research agency.
...
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-01713-4 (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-017-01713-4)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 22, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
Trump Nominates Climate-Denying, Conservative Talk Show Host as U.S. Department of Agriculture's Top Scientist
Clovis, an early advisor to the Trump campaign, has a master's in business administration and a doctoral degree in public administration, and appears to have no published scientific or academic work to his name. The position he is nominated for, which is tasked to provide scientific direction and uphold "scientific integrity" at the USDA, has previously been held by distinguished scientists with deep expertise in certain issue areas.

In a 2014 interview, Clovis called evidence of climate change "junk science," claiming that he has "enough of a science background to know when I'm being boofed."
https://www.ecowatch.com/sam-clovis-usda-2462483880.html (https://www.ecowatch.com/sam-clovis-usda-2462483880.html)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on July 22, 2017, 09:26:40 PM
Trump considers anyone who shares an opinion with him an expert. What a freaking fool.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on July 23, 2017, 12:48:58 PM
He makes Trump look slender and fit. A good man to be seen with.
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 23, 2017, 04:38:14 PM
“It is easy to use delusions to obstruct and destroy. Building something is hard. Building something valuable means thinking about consequences and confronting weaknesses in an ideological framework. Building something invites consequences. Republicans cannot govern because Republicans lack any respect for facts. Tilting at windmills is much easier than constructing them.”

Why Republicans Cannot Replace the ACA, Or Accomplish Anything Else
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisladd/2017/07/20/why-republicans-cannot-replace-the-aca-or-accomplish-anything-else/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisladd/2017/07/20/why-republicans-cannot-replace-the-aca-or-accomplish-anything-else/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on July 25, 2017, 04:49:09 PM
Here is the chair of the House Committee on Science and Technolgy, Lamar Smith, celebrating the upside of climate change and CO2.  Pretty typical approach as ignorant deniers begin to see the overwhelming evidence, and then pivot to claiming it might be happening, but it's good!

House Science Committee Chair Says Climate Change Is A Good Thing

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59765a54e4b0e201d577466d/amp?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it (http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59765a54e4b0e201d577466d/amp?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it)

“The benefits of a changing climate are often ignored and under-researched,” Smith said. “Our climate is too complex and the consequences of misguided policies too harsh to discount the positive effects of carbon enrichment.”

Increased carbon dioxide, Smith writes, promotes photosynthesis, resulting in a “greater volume of food production and better quality food” and “lush vegetation” that “assists in controlling water runoff, provides more habitats for many animal species, and even aids in climate stabilization, as more vegetation absorbs more carbon dioxide.” Warmer temperatures, he notes, results in longer growing seasons 

Smith goes as far as to make a case for why a rapidly melting Arctic, which scientists warn could cost tens of trillions of dollars by the end of this century, is a positive thing.

“Also, as the Earth warms, we are seeing beneficial changes to the earth’s geography,” he writes. “For instance, Arctic sea ice is decreasing. This development will create new commercial shipping lanes that provide faster, more convenient, and less costly routes between ports in Asia, Europe, and eastern North America. This will increase international trade and strengthen the world economy.”
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on July 25, 2017, 09:17:39 PM
A good synopsis and aptly named article for this thread!

A BRIEF SURVEY OF TRUMP'S ASSAULT ON SCIENCE

https://psmag.com/.amp/environment/a-brief-survey-of-trumps-assault-on-science (https://psmag.com/.amp/environment/a-brief-survey-of-trumps-assault-on-science)

And a link to the referenced report

http://www.ucsusa.org/center-science-and-democracy/promoting-scientific-integrity/sidelining-science-from-day-one#.WXeZK7EpChA (http://www.ucsusa.org/center-science-and-democracy/promoting-scientific-integrity/sidelining-science-from-day-one#.WXeZK7EpChA)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on July 26, 2017, 05:42:42 AM
“Also, as the Earth warms, we are seeing beneficial changes to the earth’s geography,” he writes. “For instance, Arctic sea ice is decreasing. This development will create new commercial shipping lanes that provide faster, more convenient, and less costly routes between ports in Asia, Europe, and eastern North America. This will increase international trade and strengthen the world economy.”
Such a brazen [and slippery smooth] segue by Smith, from the hard denial of warming to the denial of consequences. Evidence [as if any was needed] of the expediency of the whole movement. It'll be interesting to see whether the reality of warming is even debated in the Red-Team / Blue-Team show, or simply ignored, a sacrificial part of the argument, that has outlived its usefulness.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on July 27, 2017, 03:38:19 PM
A commentary on the broader assualt against not only science, but knowledge and truth itself.

America's Golden Age of Stupidity

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/07/25/americas-golden-age-of-stupidity/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/global-opinions/wp/2017/07/25/americas-golden-age-of-stupidity/)

Of course, it is not just science under siege. More broadly the administration attacks facts and evidence wherever they do not suit their policy views. All evidence-based communities are under attack — the intelligence community, law enforcement, think tanks and journalists. Attacks come in all forms — disregard for data, ad hominem attacks on the messengers and their motives, deflections and false analogies.

The opposite of knowledge is ignorance. But the willful disregard of knowledge — regardless of motive — is stupidity. That is because those who battle facts are at war with reality. It is an unwinnable proposition. Furthermore, specialized knowledge, particularly that of scientists, is essential if we are to do what leaders must, anticipate change, understand its consequences and harness the opportunities it presents. Trump, in waging a systematic campaign to rid the government of the experts and ideas he sees as threats to his agenda, has done more than just usher in a Golden Age of Stupidity. He is unwittingly asking a question it doesn’t take an expert to figure out: “What happens when you lobotomize the world’s leading power?”
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 28, 2017, 02:07:01 AM
"It's been six months, and people are still crying at their desks."

Scott Pruitt's Crimes Against Nature
Trump's EPA chief is gutting the agency, defunding science and serving the fossil-fuel industry
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/scott-pruitt-is-gutting-the-epa-serving-fossil-fuel-industry-w494156 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/scott-pruitt-is-gutting-the-epa-serving-fossil-fuel-industry-w494156)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NevB on July 28, 2017, 09:51:15 AM
Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis/amp (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis/amp)

Donald Trump’s secretary of energy, Rick Perry, once campaigned to abolish the $30 billion agency that he now runs, which oversees everything from our nuclear arsenal to the electrical grid. The department’s budget is now on the chopping block. But does anyone in the White House really understand what the Department of Energy actually does? And what a horrible risk it would be to ignore its extraordinary, life-or-death responsibilities?

This is a good example of the damage to science and the danger that could result from the Trump regime's lethal combination of blind ideology, arrogance, incompetence and ignorance.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on July 28, 2017, 10:03:18 AM
I'm beginning to see the good in Perry's plan. He's likely aiming to destroy US from within to get his own fiefdom ::) :P ;D.  Which could be good for the planet. (you may ask yourself how this is science, and you might be right to say it isn't. This is just what happens if political commentary is allowed in science threads)

On to contribute some other political asshattery elsewhere. Remember, anyone under 21 and from US isn't allowed to comment.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: magnamentis on July 28, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
"It's been six months, and people are still crying at their desks."

Scott Pruitt's Crimes Against Nature
Trump's EPA chief is gutting the agency, defunding science and serving the fossil-fuel industry
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/scott-pruitt-is-gutting-the-epa-serving-fossil-fuel-industry-w494156 (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/scott-pruitt-is-gutting-the-epa-serving-fossil-fuel-industry-w494156)

and once the crying stops it's not because they got happy in the mean time but because they were either ousted or have quit by themselves with perhaps a few in hospital with nervous breakdowns
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 29, 2017, 01:44:55 AM
U.S. House Hacks Away at Renewable Energy and Efficiency Programs
The U.S. House of Representatives brushed aside Democrats' efforts to preserve federal funding for clean energy and energy efficiency as it voted to approve a large spending bill Thursday that would slash those programs by 45 percent while maintaining federal support for fossil energy research and development.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/27072017/congress-budget-house-vote-renewable-energy-efficiency-programs-fossil-fuel-spending
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on July 31, 2017, 04:05:46 PM
Experts slam Trump administration’s flawed analysis for repealing water pollution rule
“Everything about this repeal is bogus and slapdash.”
https://thinkprogress.org/clean-water-rule-economic-analysis-problems-3def20a591df
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on August 02, 2017, 12:24:43 AM
"Trump officials want to add a coal display to the EPA museum, because of course. Oh, and by the way, did you know there’s an EPA museum?"

grist.org/briefly/trump-officials-want-to-add-a-coal-display-to-the-epa-museum-because-of-course/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on August 02, 2017, 09:39:14 PM
Top EPA official resigns over direction of agency under Trump
A top Environmental Protection Agency official resigned Tuesday in protest of the direction the EPA has taken under President Trump.

Elizabeth "Betsy" Southerland ended her 30-year run at the agency with a scathing exit letter in which she claimed that "the environmental field is suffering from the temporary triumph of myth over truth." She last worked as the director of science and technology in the Office of Water.

"The truth is there is NO war on coal, there is NO economic crisis caused by environmental protection, and climate change IS caused by man's activities," Southerland wrote, directly rejecting many of Trump's claims.

Southerland said that since EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt took over the agency, dozens of regulations designed to protect the environment had been repealed, and Trump's proposed budget cuts to the agency would devastate its ability to enforce existing protections and create new ones.

She took aim in particular at Trump's demand that two federal regulations be struck from the books for every new one added.

"Should EPA repeal two existing rules protecting infants from neurotoxins in order to promulgate a new rule protecting adults from a newly discovered liver toxin?" she wrote. "Faced with such painful choices, the best possible outcome for the American people would be regulatory paralysis where no new rules are released so that existing protections remain in place." ...
http://thehill.com/news-by-subject/energy-environment/344825-top-epa-official-resigns-over-direction-of-agency-under (http://thehill.com/news-by-subject/energy-environment/344825-top-epa-official-resigns-over-direction-of-agency-under)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on August 02, 2017, 10:33:54 PM
Scientists are being purged at the Department of the Interior for telling the truth:

Title: "Donald Trump and Ryan Zinke Are Purging Climate Scientists for Telling the Truth"

https://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-and-ryan-zinke-are-purging-climate-scientists-for-telling-the-truth/ (https://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-and-ryan-zinke-are-purging-climate-scientists-for-telling-the-truth/)

Extract: "Dozens of senior officials have been reassigned at the Department of the Interior, including Dr. Virginia Burkett, who contributed to the IPCC reports that won the Nobel Peace Prize."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on August 02, 2017, 11:04:13 PM
Pruitt is not only distorting the truth, but he is also complicit in distorting the EPA's scientific integrity policy:

Title: "EPA panel clears Pruitt’s climate denial by misquoting scientific integrity policy"

https://thinkprogress.org/epa-panel-clears-pruitts-climate-denial-by-misquoting-scientific-integrity-policy-2d1db8a35c3a

Extract: "'Pruitt is in violation of basic standards of ethical conduct,’ says leading climatologist Michael Mann."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: wili on August 08, 2017, 07:08:10 PM
And now:

 US federal department is censoring use of term 'climate change', emails reveal


 series of emails show staff at Department of Agriculture’s Natural Resources Conservation Service advised to reference ‘weather extremes’ instead
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on August 10, 2017, 09:04:35 PM
“We know that he does not grasp the science of climate change, but this report now illustrates that Scott Pruitt is unwilling or unable to carry out the basic statutory mission of the EPA, which is enforcement of our environmental laws.”

Penalties against polluters down 60 percent under Trump
https://thinkprogress.org/penalties-against-polluters-down-60-percent-under-trump-ea0bd62b4435/amp/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on August 14, 2017, 01:01:50 AM
Alaskan towns at risk from rising seas sound alarm as Trump pulls federal help
Communities in danger of falling into the sea say assistance from Washington has dried up: ‘It feels like a complete abdication of responsibility on climate change’
The US government’s withdrawal from dealing with, or even acknowledging, climate change may have provoked widespread opprobrium, but for Alaskan communities at risk of toppling into the sea, the risks are rather more personal.

The Trump administration has moved to dismantle climate adaptation programs including the Denali Commission, an Anchorage-based agency that is crafting a plan to safeguard or relocate dozens of towns at risk from rising sea levels, storms and the winnowing away of sea ice.

Federal assistance for these towns has been ponderous but could now grind to a halt, with even those working on the issue seemingly targeted by the administration. In July, Joel Clement, an interior department official who worked with Alaskan communities on climate adaptation, claimed he had been moved to a completely unrelated position because of the administration’s ideological hostility to the issue.

“We were getting down to the brass tacks of relocation [of towns at risk] and now work has just stopped,” Clement told the Guardian. He has lodged an official complaint over his reassignment.

“Without federal coordination from Washington DC, there isn’t much hope. This will take millions of dollars and will take years, and these people don’t have years. I think it’s clear I was moved because of my climate work. It feels like a complete abdication of responsibility on climate change.”

According to the Army Corps of Engineers, 31 Alaskan communities face “imminent” existential threats from coastline erosion, flooding and other consequences of temperatures that are rising twice as quickly in the state as the global average. A handful – Kivalina, Newtok, Shishmaref and Shaktoolik – are considered in particularly perilous positions and will need to be moved. ...
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/10/alaska-coastal-towns-sea-level-rise-climate-change
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on August 16, 2017, 11:17:26 PM
"The White House posted the text of the executive order last night. In just 28 words, one section of the order reverses stricter flood standards set by Obama, making Americans and businesses more vulnerable to heavy rains and sea-level rise."

Trump Promised Beautiful Bridges and Roads. Now He’s Putting Them in Harm’s Way.
He’s “throwing out any guarantee that our infrastructure will be safe.”
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2017/08/trump-promised-beautiful-bridges-and-roads-now-hes-putting-them-in-harms-way/ (http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2017/08/trump-promised-beautiful-bridges-and-roads-now-hes-putting-them-in-harms-way/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on August 17, 2017, 01:00:56 AM
EPA plans to rewrite Obama-era limits for coal power plant wastewater
WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency says it plans to scrap an Obama-era measure limiting water pollution from coal-fired power plants.

A letter from EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt released Monday as part of a legal appeal said he will seek to revise the 2015 guidelines mandating increased treatment for wastewater from steam electric power-generating plants.

Acting at the behest of electric utilities who opposed the stricter standards, Pruitt first moved in April to delay implementation of the new guidelines. The wastewater flushed from the coal-fired plants into rivers and lakes typically contains traces of such highly toxic heavy metals as lead, arsenic, mercury and selenium. ...
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/epa-plans-rewrite-obama-era-limits-coal-power-plant-wastewater/ (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/epa-plans-rewrite-obama-era-limits-coal-power-plant-wastewater/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on August 21, 2017, 05:21:41 PM
Evidently, Donnie John feels that he doesn't need any more climate change advise as the Electoral College made him the 'winner' (& 'winners' decide what is 'fake news' and what is not):

Title: "Report: Trump dissolves climate change advisory panel"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-trump-dissolves-climate-change-advisory-panel/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-trump-dissolves-climate-change-advisory-panel/)

Extract: "The Trump administration has decided to dissolve a federal advisory panel that contributes to a report that measures the current and future impacts of climate change on the U.S., The Washington Post reports."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on August 23, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
Driving toward the cliff with blinders on is less frightening.
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on August 24, 2017, 01:46:56 AM
Resignation letter from State Dept Science Envoy.  Note the first letter of each paragraph.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Archimid on August 26, 2017, 02:55:05 AM
US energy agency asked scientists to scrub references to climate change

http://www.nature.com/news/us-energy-agency-asked-scientists-to-scrub-references-to-climate-change-1.22513 (http://www.nature.com/news/us-energy-agency-asked-scientists-to-scrub-references-to-climate-change-1.22513)

Multiple researchers who received grants from the US Department of Energy (DOE) have been asked to remove references to “climate change” and “global warming” from the descriptions of their projects.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on August 26, 2017, 03:06:55 AM
"This is what censorship looks like."
https://twitter.com/doctorwhy/status/900897050484670465
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on September 04, 2017, 01:29:59 PM
This from Forbes, by no stretch a contrarian publication:

Reject This Incompetent Trump Nominee; He's Not A Scientist

President Trump has nominated a non-scientist to be the chief scientist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture. This is an outrageous slap in the face to science. It's also a slap in the face to Congress.

As I predicted back in May, Trump has tapped Sam Clovis, a former right-wing radio talk-show host and failed Senate candidate from Iowa. ProPublica, revealing the expected pick, noted that Clovis was a vocal climate change denier. Clovis has an undergraduate degree in politics and graduate training in business, but he has no formal training in science at all.

Clovis does have one qualification, though. As ProPublica pointed out, he has been a "fiery pro-Trump advocate on television." Sounds like a good candidate for a chief scientist job to me.

Fortunately (perhaps), the Senate has to approve this appointment. The Senate itself stipulated, in a bill that Congress passed in 2008, that the USDA's chief scientist (the under secretary for research, education and economics) must be appointed from among "distinguished scientists with specialized or significant experience in agricultural research, education and economics."
The law also says, just to make it crystal clear, that the under secretary "shall hold the title of chief scientist of the department."

Why is this appointment so wrong? I'll repeat what I wrote back in May:

Overseeing the USDA's research programs requires strong expertise in biological science. A non-scientist has no basis for deciding which research is going well or which questions present the most promising avenues for research. A non-scientist is simply incompetent to choose among them – and I mean this in the literal sense of the word, i.e., not having the knowledge or training to do the job. This does not mean that I think Sam Clovis is incompetent at other things; I don't know him, and he might be very capable in other areas. A non-scientist leader of a scientific agency will be incapable of using scientific expertise to set priorities and instead can make up his own priorities.

If the Senate has any backbone at all – if Republicans are willing to show that they are capable of doing something other than rubber-stamping every action of our self-absorbed, ignorant president, no matter how damaging – then they will turn down this nomination. Sam Clovis is so obviously unqualified that this should be easy to do.

Actually, if Clovis cared about the USDA's mission, he would recognize that he's the wrong man for the job and refuse the nomination. Even Dan Glickman, a former secretary of agriculture, said, "I wouldn't be qualified for that job," referring to himself (he's a lawyer), in a recent interview about Clovis' appointment. The current and previous chief scientists at the USDA have Ph.D.s and extensive scientific publication records. Clovis does not. (Note that when I wrote to Clovis in May to ask about his potential nomination, he declined to respond on the record.)

Steven Salzberg is the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science, and Biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2017/08/15/reject-this-incompetent-trump-appointee-hes-not-a-scientist/#6e0eef9217b1 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2017/08/15/reject-this-incompetent-trump-appointee-hes-not-a-scientist/#6e0eef9217b1)

While Clovis was a tenured professor of economics at Morningside College, a private, liberal arts college [which by and large are wonderful institutions] he holds no economics qualifications either. His bachelor's degree's in political science. He has an MBA and a PhD in public policy. So, clearly no fool, but neither an economist nor a scientist.

There's no such thing as gravity. The world sucks.

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on September 08, 2017, 11:28:47 PM
At a moment climate change is hard to ignore, the EPA is being pointed elsewhere
...
Once Jan. 20 rolled around, though, the EPA was upended. President Trump nominated Oklahoma attorney general Scott Pruitt to run the agency, a man who had repeatedly sued the EPA in an effort to block its regulations targeting the oil and gas industry in his state. In an interview in March, Pruitt denied the scientific consensus that human activity was driving the warmer climate — a denial that suggested he would curtail the EPA's efforts to limit greenhouse gas emissions.

Once confirmed by the Senate, Pruitt got to work reshaping the agency in precisely that way. In April, the organization's page on climate change was removed; in May, a page focused on educating children was as well. Pruitt's the driver of a government-wide effort to question climate science by positioning it against the views of the business community. Even the EPA museum may be overhauled to play down climate change.
...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/09/07/at-a-moment-climate-change-is-hard-to-ignore-the-epa-is-being-pointed-elsewhere/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/09/07/at-a-moment-climate-change-is-hard-to-ignore-the-epa-is-being-pointed-elsewhere/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on September 11, 2017, 04:48:01 PM
At a moment climate change is hard to ignore, the EPA is being pointed elsewhere.
Pruitt even denies CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The new head of the Environmental Protection Agency said on Thursday he is not convinced that carbon dioxide from human activity is the main driver of climate change and said he wants Congress to weigh in on whether CO2 is a harmful pollutant that should be regulated.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/epa-chief-pruitt-refuses-to-link-co2-and-global-warming/ (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/epa-chief-pruitt-refuses-to-link-co2-and-global-warming/)

The idea that we should open a public debate about warming is equivalent to the idea that we should open a public debate about evolution. It leads the public to believe that two sides of an argument about an established fact have equivalent merit, which provides policymakers with political cover for making expedient choices in favour or their real constituency, the corporations who fund their politics.

Pruitt's a killer, every bit as anyone on death row. Conservatives would undoubtedly paint that opinion as hysterical, but how else can we describe it? History will judge him that way, for what it's worth. I doubt he gives a goddamn.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on September 16, 2017, 03:52:24 PM
Not just the current administration, but "wealthy conservatives, in particular petrochemical billionaire Charles Koch, teamed up with neoliberal academics with the objective... of undermining the functions of government in the United States."

The idea that climate scientists are in it for the cash has deep ideological roots
You’ll have heard that line of argument about cancer scientists, right?

The one where they’re just in it for the government grant money and that they don’t really want to find a cure, because if they did they’d be out of a job?

No, of course you haven’t. That’s because it’s ridiculous and a bit, well, vomit-inducing.

To make such an argument, you would need to be deeply cynical about people’s motives for consistently putting their own pay packets above the welfare of millions of people.

You would have to think that scientists were not motivated to help their fellow human beings, but instead were driven only by self-interest.

Suggesting that climate scientists are pushing a line about global warming because their salaries depend on it is a popular talking point that deniers love to throw around.

But why do so many “sceptics”, particularly those who form part of the organised machinery of climate science denial, feel comfortable in accusing climate scientists of only being in it for the money?

Duke University history professor Nancy MacLean suggests some answers in her new book Democracy in Chains: the Deep History of the Radical Right’s Stealth Plan for America.

The book documents how wealthy conservatives, in particular petrochemical billionaire Charles Koch, teamed up with neoliberal academics with the objective, MacLean says, of undermining the functions of government in the United States. ...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2017/sep/15/the-idea-that-climate-scientists-are-in-it-for-the-cash-has-deep-ideological-roots (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2017/sep/15/the-idea-that-climate-scientists-are-in-it-for-the-cash-has-deep-ideological-roots)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on September 21, 2017, 04:40:19 PM
The linked article makes that case members of the Trump administration are quietly unraveling a slew of policies, precedents, and regulations in ways that could make it much more difficult to plan for a low-carbon future after they’re gone.

Title: "The Paris Agreement Dispute Is a Distraction. The Real Battle Is Playing Out in the EPA."

https://theintercept.com/2017/09/20/paris-agreement-climate-change-trump-epa/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on September 23, 2017, 12:31:32 AM
To me, what the EPA is doing un Pruitt is obscene:

Title: "EPA asked Heartland for experts who question climate science"

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060061307 (https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060061307)

Extract: "The Heartland Institute has found an ally in U.S. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt as he seeks to portray climate science as a debate.

While a number of conservative think tanks employ scientists or economists to discredit mainstream climate science, the Illinois-based Heartland Institute has a stable of them. It's devoted years to crafting an alternative body of climate change research that exists outside the prevailing view of scientists. Now, President Trump's administration may give the libertarian group its greatest influence in years."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on October 06, 2017, 04:28:59 PM
Team Trump is steadily undermining US climate actions established by Obama:

Title: "EPA's climate rule withdrawal will include big changes to cost calculations"

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/epa-climate-rule-withdrawal-cost-calculations-243520 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/epa-climate-rule-withdrawal-cost-calculations-243520)

Extract: "The Trump administration will consider fundamentally limiting the way the federal government counts benefits from curbing climate change and air pollution in an upcoming proposal to rescind former President Barack Obama’s signature climate regulation, according to multiple sources familiar with recent drafts.

In nixing the Clean Power Plan, EPA will suggest changing the benefits it counts, which would bolster its arguments that the rule’s economic burdens would outweigh its gains from cleaner air, reduced illnesses and greater energy efficiency. "
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on October 12, 2017, 04:13:09 PM
Nominee has a business background, not weather.  Or science.

President Trump has nominated Accuweather CEO Barry Myers to post of NOAA Administrator.
https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/918280904056897536 (https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/918280904056897536)


Trump taps AccuWeather CEO to head NOAA, breaking with precedent of nominating scientists
As NOAA administrator, Myers would be in charge of the Weather Service whose data are heavily used by his family business, based in State College, Pa.

AccuWeather has, in the past, supported measures to limit the extent to which the Weather Service can release information to the public, so that private companies could generate their own value-added products using this same information. In 2005, for example, Myers and his brother Joel gave money to then-Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), who introduced legislation aimed at curtailing government competition with private weather services.

“Barry Myers defines ‘conflict of interest,'” said Ciaran Clayton, who was communications director at NOAA in the Obama administration. “He actively lobbied to privatize the National Weather Service, which works day in and day out to protect the lives and livelihoods of millions of Americans, to benefit his own company’s bottom line.”

Myers’s appointment is strongly opposed by the labor union for the National Weather Service, the NWS Employees Organization, for this reason. “As NOAA administrator, he would be in a position to fundamentally alter the nature of weather services that NOAA provides the nation, to the benefit of his family-owned business,” said Richard Hirn, a spokesperson for the union. ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/10/12/trump-taps-barry-myers-accuweather-ceo-to-head-noaa-choice-seen-as-controversial/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/10/12/trump-taps-barry-myers-accuweather-ceo-to-head-noaa-choice-seen-as-controversial/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Pmt111500 on October 12, 2017, 04:58:41 PM
It looks like there are some people tracking the deeds of this US government. In my opinion, if it's legally possible to change the government after the next elections, most, if not all of these should be undone. Of course it's possible to construct a law, by which the right to vote of certain people is excluded. It looks like this government supports such laws.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: crandles on October 12, 2017, 08:54:14 PM
Nominee has a business background, not weather.  Or science.

President Trump has nominated Accuweather CEO Barry Myers to post of NOAA Administrator.

Hmm...
http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2017/10/12/roger-rabbit-no-longer-running-accuwx-now-going-run-noaa/ (http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2017/10/12/roger-rabbit-no-longer-running-accuwx-now-going-run-noaa/)
… and my response, (written in 2013) when Accuwx started selling snake oil 45-day weather forecasts.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on October 13, 2017, 09:01:56 PM
Where do they find these people?  :o

Trump’s Pick For White House Environmental Post Once Said Coal Helped End Slavery
Former Texas regulator Kathleen Hartnett White, unsurprisingly, is a hard-line climate science denier.
President Donald Trump named Kathleen Hartnett White, a hard-line critic of climate change science, to the White House’s Council on Environmental Quality late Thursday night.

Hartnett White is a former Texas environmental regulator whose six-year tenure was marked by her vote to greenlight a new coal-fired plant over the objections of 24 Dallas-area cities and counties. She previously led the Armstrong Center for Energy & the Environment at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, an influential right-wing think tank with ties to Energy Secretary Rick Perry. ...
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kathleen-hartnett-white-coal-slavery_us_59e0c0b2e4b04d1d518125a9 (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kathleen-hartnett-white-coal-slavery_us_59e0c0b2e4b04d1d518125a9)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on October 17, 2017, 01:18:40 AM
You have to wonder how an administration selected by the rejection of facts [climate change deniers, birthers, conspiracy theorists] can actually govern. I guess it depends on whether they’re continuous or discontinuous contrarians. If they’re discontinuous, then at least the ones who believe the truth in one field can cover for the others who choose not to, like the apocryphal monks, feeding each other with long-handled spoons. The weakness is climate science. None of them seems to believe in that.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on October 17, 2017, 05:17:36 AM
You have to wonder how an administration selected by the rejection of facts [climate change deniers, birthers, conspiracy theorists] can actually govern. I guess it depends on whether they’re continuous or discontinuous contrarians. If they’re discontinuous, then at least the ones who believe the truth in one field can cover for the others who choose not to, like the apocryphal monks, feeding each other with long-handled spoons. The weakness is climate science. None of them seems to believe in that.
I think most of them agree that government is bad. And done the way they do it, it is.
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on October 18, 2017, 06:09:20 PM
You have to wonder how an administration selected by the rejection of facts [climate change deniers, birthers, conspiracy theorists] can actually govern. I guess it depends on whether they’re continuous or discontinuous contrarians. If they’re discontinuous, then at least the ones who believe the truth in one field can cover for the others who choose not to, like the apocryphal monks, feeding each other with long-handled spoons. The weakness is climate science. None of them seems to believe in that.
I think most of them agree that government is bad. And done the way they do it, it is.
Terry
Efficient markets also depend on real information. These people are just picking different winners. Overwhelmingly, the fossil fuel industry.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on October 18, 2017, 06:22:21 PM
    Trump's War on Knowledge.

“The experts are terrible,” Donald Trump said during his campaign. “Look at the mess we’re in with all these experts that we have.” It is hardly surprising, then, that his administration is over-stocked with know-nothing fundamentalists. Across the board, he has appointed amateurs who are hostile to science and sport obscurantism as a badge of honor. Accordingly, the policies they have adopted are as stultifying as they are noxious. ...
   (Article link below.)

Robert Reich - Facebook Post:
Ariel Dorfman provides a useful list of ways Trump and his administration are shortening the lives of Americans:

1. An estimated 2.3 million American construction workers, miners, and road-crew laborers face life-threatening injury and illness because the Occupational Health and Safety Administration has delayed the enforcement of rules protecting them from silica dust, which is incontrovertibly linked to increases in cancer and lung disease.

2. Deaths will rise among those who toil in shipyards and on construction sites because a regulation created by the Obama administration to reduce exposure to the carcinogen beryllium has been reversed.

3. Miners are at greater risk because inspections in coal mines to identify hazards have been curtailed.

4. Families in Appalachia will be further endangered because the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine have been ordered to stop studying how pollutants produced by mountaintop-removal mining may lead to increased rates of cancer, birth defects and respiratory disease.

5. The lives of millions will be shortened because more than 30 rules safeguarding Americans from pollution have been rolled back: they will slowly die from increased heavy metal effluents in waterways; they will die if emission standards for vehicles are relaxed; they will die because chemical spills will be more frequent and our water, air, and soil less clean.

6. More children will get ill and die if parents opt out of immunization programs encouraged by the president’s reckless promotion of the completely debunked “theory” about a link between vaccination and autism, a belief seconded by Tom Price, until recently the head of Health and Human Services, who once said that “vaccines are the equivalent of human experimentation.”

7. In addition, millions more will die prematurely because Trump by executive order has cut health insurance subsidies by $7 billion – thereby forcing insurers to raise premiums or co-payments, and making insurance unaffordable. And he is allowing insurers to offer fewer benefits, which will harm people with pre-existing health problems.

8. And a large number of children will lack the health coverage they need if the Children's Health Insurance Program runs out of money, which is soon to happen.

We are the richest nation in the world, and richer than we've ever been. This is barbaric.

What do you think?
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1734421803237075 (https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1734421803237075)


Trump's War on Knowledge
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/10/12/trumps-war-on-knowledge/ (http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/10/12/trumps-war-on-knowledge/)
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Alexander555 on October 18, 2017, 10:14:03 PM
That's a lot of nonsens together. It's these democrats that want to bring in more people, and more people is more polution. And if the premiums for health care were not 4500 usd a year, these children would have had a cover. In other countries they don't even pay 1000 usd a year. And we know that mining is not healty, but than we have to stop consuming. Even solar panels and windmills, electrical cars need a lot of resources, and to build and to maintain the extra houses and infrastructure for all these globalists that are on the run for their own created disasters.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Susan Anderson on October 18, 2017, 10:40:14 PM
Alexander555, actually Democrats are very big on birth control access and affordability. One of the first things Republicans in office do is cut off programs that provide access to women's health abroad if it includes family planning help and advice. Empowering women has been shown to work, and it doesn't require bullying people about their all too normal and human tendency to fall and love and have children (lots of climate scientists, among others). They're obsessed with other people's sex lives, and they like fetuses because they don't have needs until they are born so they are unimaginably "pure". Once the family needs health care and support, it's bye bye baby care. And ensuring healthy children means families don't feel they have to have a ton of children as they are acculturated to do for their survival. (And yes, I do know it's more complicated than that, there are other inputs.)

Meanwhile, Trump is busy installing some industry promoters in various posts. Here's the latest on the FDA. "Mr. Trump Outdoes Himself in Picking a Conflicted Regulator"
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/opinion/mr-trump-outdoes-himself-in-picking-a-conflicted-regulator.html
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on October 18, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
Sigmetnow
Your #6 actually affects my family. My wife's eldest son and his mate have produced 6 grandchildren who've never "had their shots". Reason bounces off like a cat in a puddle, they're not welcome here.
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on October 19, 2017, 07:08:55 PM
In this age of anti-science in the U.S., here's a win for science in the state of New Mexico:

Facing Public Outcry, New Mexico Restores Evolution and Global Warming to Science Standards
Students will learn the age of the Earth, too.
New Mexico’s public education agency announced late Tuesday that it would restore references to evolution, global warming, and the age of the Earth that had been stripped out of the state’s proposed science education standards. The reversal comes after an outcry by teachers, scientists, students, and others—the culmination of which was a day-long public hearing on Monday in which scores of people spoke out against the draft standards. ...
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/new-mexico-reversal-science-education-standards-climate-change/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on October 23, 2017, 04:27:36 PM
While the cats away, the mice will play:

Title: "Tar Sands Pipeline that Could Rival Keystone XL Quietly Gets Trump Approval"

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/19102017/tar-sands-oil-pipeline-approved-line-67-alberta-clipper-enbridge-keystone

Extract: "You've probably heard of the Keystone XL pipeline. But what about Line 67, also known as the Alberta Clipper?

Nine years ago, both were controversial proposals to ship oil from Canada's tar sands into the United States. But while Keystone XL is still awaiting approval and continues to draw protests, Line 67 quietly secured a federal permit last week to ship even more crude than Keystone would.

On Oct. 13, the State Department approved a long-awaited permit that allows Enbridge, which owns the pipeline, to pump up to 890,000 barrels per day across the border between Canada and North Dakota, en route to Superior, Wisconsin."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: solartim27 on October 23, 2017, 06:30:17 PM
EPA prevents scientists from attending conference of agency that they fund.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/22/climate/epa-scientists.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

http://nbep.org
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on October 24, 2017, 07:46:52 PM
As The New York Times readied a story on the Environmental Protection Agency for last weekend's front page, an agency spokeswoman ignored the reporter's questions and accused him of writing "elitist clickbait."

EPA Press Office Tips Toward Hostility Under Pruitt
The Environmental Protection Agency’s press office has launched personal attacks on reporters, reflecting Trump’s campaign style.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/24102017/trump-pruitt-epa-press-office-attacked-reporter-lipton-ap-harvey
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Shared Humanity on October 25, 2017, 03:39:20 PM
Cross posted from weird weather thread and a big thank you to Sigmetnow.

http://grist.org/article/life-saving-weather-forecasts-cost-donald-trump-wants-to-slash-them/

Apparently violent weather driven by AGW is not the problem. Knowledge of such things is.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: ghoti on October 25, 2017, 05:40:43 PM
Apparently violent weather driven by AGW is not the problem. Knowledge of such things is.

Nothing new there. When facts get in the way of your agenda then you hide the facts. This is the standard way of conservative governments as we saw before with Reagan, Bush, and Harper.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on October 31, 2017, 04:51:28 PM
"40 minutes into a Senate hearing on the lessons from a record disaster season, nobody has mentioned climate change."
https://twitter.com/cflav/status/925372345535131653

".@SenatorTester just became the first person to mention climate change, an hour into a hearing on extreme weather."
https://twitter.com/cflav/status/925377669616807938

"Good lord. FEMA is spending up to $200 million *a day* responding to Harvey, Irma, Maria and the NorCal wildfires according to @FEMA_Brock"
https://twitter.com/blkahn/status/925381699093127168
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on October 31, 2017, 05:54:02 PM
Personally, I find this thread depressing, but here goes a post anyway:

Title: "Trump’s Gang of Climate Deniers Has Grown Into an Army"

https://newrepublic.com/article/145547/trumps-gang-climate-deniers-grown-army

Extract: "He keeps picking deniers for top government positions: NASA might soon be run by a GOP congressman who blames global warming on the sun."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: magnamentis on October 31, 2017, 06:29:48 PM
crossposted:

that would be nice  ;)

https://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/donald-trump-news-ticker-id6132479.html
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Susan Anderson on November 01, 2017, 05:59:11 PM
Here's more of the same; only industry reps allowed: Pruitt Bars Some Scientists From Advising E.P.A. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/climate/pruitt-epa-science-advisory-boards.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/climate/pruitt-epa-science-advisory-boards.html)

Of course, moneygrubbing is fine, but expertise is not welcome.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on November 01, 2017, 07:17:49 PM
Here's more of the same; only industry reps allowed: Pruitt Bars Some Scientists From Advising E.P.A. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/climate/pruitt-epa-science-advisory-boards.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/climate/pruitt-epa-science-advisory-boards.html)

Of course, moneygrubbing is fine, but expertise is not welcome.


Further with Pruitt's EPA:


Meet dicamba, the new killer from our old friends at Monsanto.
Apparently not enough money can be made selling carcinogens, so Monsanto is pushing it's new dicamba resistant soy seeds. The upside is that it wafts in the breeze killing everyone's weeds. The downside is that it wafts in the breeze killing everyone's crops.


Pruitt's Incredible Shrinking EPA will be ruling on extending dicamba's disastrous one season trial, which ends this November. The Evidently Expendable Experts may struggle against Monsanto's Moneyed Manipulators in a pitched, (as in, not on the level), battle.


Terry


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-01/meet-monsantos-other-herbicide-problem



Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on November 02, 2017, 03:12:22 PM
Scott Pruitt Declares War on Air Pollution Science
In stacking EPA advisory boards with skeptics, he's laying the groundwork to gut regulations that protect Americans from polluted air.
Of the 17 new members expected to be appointed to the EPA’s Scientific Advisory Board (SAB), three hail from large fossil-fuel companies: Southern Company, Phillips 66, and Total. Three are from red-state governments; one is from a chemical industry trade association; the rest are from various universities and consulting groups. Five of the 17 hold views on air pollution that are outside of the scientific mainstream. Of the three new members expected to be appointed to the Clean Air Scientific Advisory Council (CASAC), one is an air pollution skeptic.
... Phalen has argued that the air is currently too clean, because children’s lungs need to breathe irritants in order to learn how to fight them. “Modern air,” he said in 2012, “is a little too clean for optimum health.”
https://newrepublic.com/article/145582/scott-pruitt-declares-war-air-pollution-science
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on November 02, 2017, 05:43:13 PM
So this is what it takes to prevent a non-scientist from being appointed to a scientific position in this administration.

Sam Clovis withdraws his nomination for USDA’s top scientist post after being linked to Russia probe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/11/02/sam-clovis-withdraws-nomination-for-udsas-top-scientist-post-after-being-linked-to-russia-probe/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on November 03, 2017, 04:36:43 PM
The Trump administration's position on climate change is at odds with the findings of the US's Climate Science Special Report, which is part of an even larger scientific review known as the fourth National Climate Assessment.

Title: "Massive Government Report Says Climate Is Warming And Humans Are The Cause"

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/02/561608576/massive-government-report-says-climate-is-warming-and-humans-are-the-cause

Extract: "It is "extremely likely" that human activities are the "dominant cause" of global warming, according to the most comprehensive study ever of climate science by U.S. government researchers.

The climate report, obtained by NPR, notes that the past 115 years are "the warmest in the history of modern civilization." The global average temperature has increased by about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit over that period. Greenhouse gases from industry and agriculture are by far the biggest contributor to warming.

The findings contradict statements by President Trump and many of his Cabinet members, who have openly questioned the role humans play in changing the climate.

"I believe that measuring with precision human activity on the climate is something very challenging to do," EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt said in an interview earlier this year. "There's tremendous disagreement about the degree of impact."

That is not consistent with the conclusions of the 600-plus-page Climate Science Special Report, which is part of an even larger scientific review known as the fourth National Climate Assessment. The NCA4, as it's known, is the nation's most authoritative assessment of climate science. The report's authors include experts from leading scientific agencies, including the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NASA and the Department of Energy, as well as academic scientists."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on November 04, 2017, 12:58:35 AM
Happy Friday! The Natl Climate Assessment came out today, & miraculously, the Trump admin didn't mess with it.
      https://science2017.globalchange.gov
https://twitter.com/erinmurphy1/status/926523299361968128

13 federal agencies have published a landmark climate science report, creating "an unusual situation in which government policies are in direct opposition to the science it is producing."
     https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/climate/us-climate-report.html
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/926525187046199299
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on November 04, 2017, 02:07:42 PM
Whether or not this report would be squashed was something that we flagged early on.  Even though it's been released, it would not be surprising to see attacks by Pruitt, Perry, right wing media, and the usual deniers focus on the scientists themselves, belittling the report by undermining the researchers and labeling them biased and corrupt, etc.  and the report itself will do nothing to stop the anti science and pro fossil fuel policy agenda by the administration.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on November 04, 2017, 04:53:22 PM
In the linked article Scribbler points-out that the GOP's proposed tax bill would suppress the rollout of all electric vehicles on to the roadways:

Title: "Republicans Seek to Use Tax Bill to Suppress Climate and Clean Air Saving Electrical Vehicles"

https://robertscribbler.com/2017/11/02/republicans-seek-to-use-tax-bill-to-suppress-climate-and-clean-air-saving-electrical-vehicles/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on November 05, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
NSIDC DATA - Nearing the end?

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/nov/05/donald-trump-accused-blocking-satellite-climate-change-research

It seems that NASA have decided that DMSP satellite F-19 cannot be made operational, and has been abandoned.
DMSP satellite F-20 was destroyed by order of Congress.
The current satellites are already working beyond their shelf-life and the earliest replacement date is 2023.
It is highly likely that NSIDC data will be interrupted temporarily or permanently.

“This is like throwing away the medical records of a sick patient,” said David Gallaher of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado. “Our world is ailing and we have apparently decided to undermine, quite deliberately, the effectiveness of the records on which its recovery might be based. It is criminal.”

However, this criminal act lies not with Trump but at the door of Rep. US Senator Lamar Smith, current chairman of the U.S. House Science, Space and Technology Committee.
He is not standing for re-election next year, and the hurrahs vs eulogies have already started.

http://beta.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-lamar-smith-20171103-story.html
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/11/02/lamar-smith-retiring-congress/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on November 05, 2017, 11:59:17 PM
Trump, it seems, is but following the wishes of the Republican Party. It's convenient to place the blame on him, but allows the perpetrators a free ride.
Harper, in Canada, was to a much greater extent the source of the anti-science programs that his Conservative Party enacted, and this realization on the part of the voters had an effect on his and the Conservative Party's crushing defeat.
Blaming Republicans for America's betrayal of climate science isn't just more accurate, it will lead to more votes for Democrats in coming elections.


I hope  :(
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on November 07, 2017, 03:42:35 PM
Trump, it seems, is but following the wishes of the Republican Party. It's convenient to place the blame on him, but allows the perpetrators a free ride.

Terry
I so agree, Trump is merely the enabler. The next agency to cripple is NASA -

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/nov/06/we-have-every-reason-to-fear-trumps-pick-to-head-nasa

Edited extracts below:-

We have every reason to fear Trump’s pick to head Nasa
"Republican climate science denial reared its ugly head at Bridenstine’s congressional hearing

Unlike past Nasa administrators, Trump nominee Jim Bridenstine doesn’t have a scientific background. He’s a Republican Congressman from Oklahoma and former Navy pilot. He also has a history of denying basic climate science. That’s concerning because Nasa does some of the world’s best climate science research, and Bridenstine previously introduced legislation that would eliminate Earth science from Nasa’s mission statement.

...the congressional hearing showed why we can expect most Republican senators to vote to confirm Bridenstine. The hearing was held by the Senate Commerce, Science, & Transportation Committee.
- Senator James ‘global warming is the greatest hoax’ Inhofe (R-OK) sits on the senate science committee. During the hearing, Inhofe proclaimed “This 97 percent [expert climate consensus] stuff has been debunked completely and everybody knows that.”
- Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) said, “It’s my understanding that it’s not even the position of Nasa at this point that there is a consensus that [climate change is primarily caused by human activity].”
- Senator Roger Wicker (R-MS) had the most ant-science statement of the hearing, criticizing “the audacity to think that we are so important that we are causing that climate change.”

It is really scary that these guys are in charge.


Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Shared Humanity on November 07, 2017, 05:52:35 PM
Climate change does not care whether you believe in it or not. It's gonna fuck you in the end, regardless.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Susan Anderson on November 07, 2017, 09:28:35 PM
Mass Shootings, Climate, Discrimination: Why Government's Fear of Data Threatens Us All
https://www.wired.com/story/mass-shootings-climate-discrimination-why-governments-fear-of-data-threatens-us-all/

Good article, here's an extract:

How about melting Arctic ice? Nope; Congress is dismantling a satellite that was supposed to update the aging monitor network. Climate change? Scott Pruitt, head of the Environmental Protection Agency, doesn’t think human beings cause it and, more importantly, doesn’t really think you can measure anything to find out. The weather? Forget it; the National Weather Service is coming apart at the seams. How many people live in the United States, data critical to determining political representation and funding priorities? Yeah, no—the 2020 Census is shaping up to be an epic disaster.

It’s hard to imagine a good argument for knowing less—about anything, really, but especially about difficult problems with profound policy implications. The government is supposed to base policy on the best data possible, along with political concerns, budget concerns, social priorities ... the usual warp and weft of running a country.

Yet the Trump administration is running in the other direction. Any data that has even the faintest whiff of potential contradiction goes right out the window. Of course, these folks aren't the first people in power to succumb to a fear of data. They do, however, seem to have found a profound expertise in the practice of eliminating it. Dataphobia chills them to the bone, I suspect because they hope to undermine not only some truths but all truth. David Roberts at Vox has written about what he calls an epistemic crisis in America, the idea that certain rulers and rich people hope to take away the basic idea of knowledge. If nobody can know anything, why bother to try to regulate anything? It’s government-by-ignorance—a shrugocracy.

Assaults on data have come before. “It’s the same reason an oil company doesn’t want research on climate change or a tobacco company doesn’t want research on the relationship between tobacco and cancer,” Vernick says. “Maybe they argue those researchers have an agenda and that’ll allow them to cook the books, but that’s an absurd argument. The worst thing you can do is cook the books. That is the way to guarantee the science is not used as part of policymaking.”
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on November 07, 2017, 11:41:11 PM
A decent article Susan, but the comments were very disappointing. Raced off in all directions, often straying far from what the article's author was saying. Wired once attracted a fairly astute readership, perhaps it still does with the exception of some who responded to this particular piece. :)
Has taking a shot at Putin now become a prerequisite for publication? The paragraph seemed divorced from the rest of the article, a cut and paste that had little or nothing to do with what preceded, or followed it.



A few months ago I'd come upon a chart that purported to show the difference between Republican and Democratic voters preferences. All the expected were there, plus one I'd not foreseen. The Republicans, according to this piece, are now against a university education.
They'd long been seen by some as "liberal indoctrination camps", but now, apparently the whole concept of higher learning is being viewed with a jaundiced eye.


I'll scurry around in my book marks to see if I retained the article,
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on November 08, 2017, 08:15:49 PM
EPA's Pruitt vows to continue rolling back rules despite alarming climate report
WASHINGTON — EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt said a newly released government report that lays most of the blame for the rise of global temperatures to human activity won't deter him from continuing to roll back the Obama-era Clean Power Plan, a major rule aimed at combating climate change.

"We’re taking the very necessary step to evaluate our authority under the Clean Air Act and we’ll take steps that are required to issue a subsequent rule. That’s our focus," Pruitt said in an interview with USA TODAY Tuesday. "Does this report have any bearing on that? No it doesn’t. It doesn’t impact the withdrawal and it doesn’t impact the replacement." ...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/08/pruitt-says-alarming-climate-report-not-deter-replacement-clean-power-plan/839857001/
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on November 08, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
Senate panel advances Trump’s controversial NASA nominee
A Senate committee voted Wednesday to approve President Trump’s highly contentious nominee to lead NASA.  The decision to advance Rep. Jim Bridenstine's (R-Okla.) nomination came down to a party-line 14-13 vote in the Senate Commerce Committee.

Democrats strongly objected to Bridenstine, labeling him a politically polarizing figure with little scientific or technical expertise. They also objected to his skepticism of climate change science and his past statements on homosexuality and LGBT rights.

“The NASA administrator, in my judgment, ought to be a skilled executive capable of managing a portfolio of many of the most challenging technical projects undertaken by humankind, especially at this point, as we are venturing out into the cosmos,” Sen. Bill Nelson (Fla.), the top Democrat on the committee, said before senators voted on Bridenstine.

“The NASA administrator must have a strong scientific and a technical background, and the NASA administrator must not be political,” he continued. “I believe, Mr. Chairman, that the nominee falls short.”

No Republicans spoke in favor of Bridenstine at the short Wednesday committee meeting.
...

Bridenstine will now be up for a vote by the whole Senate when Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) schedules it.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/359356-senate-panel-advances-trumps-controversial-nasa-nominee
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on November 08, 2017, 11:10:45 PM
As an extreme narcissist, Trump has little (or no) compassion (for future generations) or shame (for appointing such biased advisors):

Title: "Potential Trump Adviser Suggests Climate Change Regulations Are Communist Conspiracy"

https://www.npr.org/2017/11/08/562721401/potential-trump-adviser-suggests-climate-change-regulations-are-communist-conspi

Extract: "President Trump has tapped a former Texas regulator to be his senior adviser on environmental policy. Like a string of other controversial picks, she questions the science behind climate change."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: pileus on November 10, 2017, 01:26:53 PM
Read this article in front of a mirror, and watch as your head proceeds to spin.

TRUMP WILL TRY TO CONVINCE THE WORLD THAT FOSSIL FUELS PREVENT CLIMATE CHANGE

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-will-try-convince-world-fossil-fuels-prevent-climate-change-707614?utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social

Next week, the Trump administration reportedly will make this very case on the world stage. At the United Nation climate talks in Bonn, Germany, where countries will discuss next steps for implementing the Paris agreement, U.S. officials plan to argue that fossil fuels are key to fighting climate change, according to The New York Times.  Representatives of the coal, natural gas, and nuclear industries reportedly will speak  on “The Role of Cleaner and More Efficient Fossil Fuels and Nuclear Power in Climate Mitigation,” a presentation about “how American energy resources, particularly fossil fuels, can help poor countries meet electricity needs and drive down greenhouse gas emissions.”
-----
The moral case for fossil fuels, as promulgated on the right, states that fossil fuels have improved humans’ lives for more than a century—mainly through economic growth—and thus will continue to do so. The benefits of oil, gas, and coal consumption, the argument goes, far outweigh the environmental and public health costs, which have been wildly overstated by scientists anyway.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on November 10, 2017, 03:30:07 PM
Adding to the post by Pileus, the Guardian writes about the US divided at Bonn. Extracts below:-

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/09/bonn-climate-change-talks-us-two-tribes

"One nation, two tribes: opposing visions of US climate role on show in Bonn"

Donald Trump has pulled the US out of the Paris accord – but other Americans are standing with the world to help fight the ‘existential crisis’ of global warming

Tribe #1
A US Climate Action Center has been set up for delegates in Bonn, representing the climate change priorities of several thousand US cities, states, tribes and businesses. Corporate giants Mars, Walmart and Citi are expected to push for action on climate change. The center is in lieu of an official US presence – for the first time, the US government won’t have a pavilion at the annual UN climate summit.

Tribe #2
The White House has confirmed that the US will promote the “efficient” use of coal, nuclear energy and natural gas as an answer to climate change in a presentation to delegates in Bonn. Trump has vowed to revive America’s ailing coal sector but this message is likely to to provoke outrage on the global stage.

"Hope Floats" ?
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on November 10, 2017, 03:40:15 PM
Off-topic, but what the hell. (Where else to put it).

There will be a few delegates at Bonn who will be going home to danger.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2017/jul/13/the-defenders-tracker

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on November 14, 2017, 02:37:02 AM
Here’s Trump’s pick for Top Environmental Advisor answering questions about the environment in a confirmation hearing.  Or, trying to.  ::)  Unbelievable!

(Senator Whitehouse continually gives speeches on the floor of the Senate, warning about climate change.)

https://twitter.com/adamparkhomenko/status/929598544171945984
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: TerryM on November 14, 2017, 03:04:10 AM
Here’s Trump’s pick for Top Environmental Advisor answering questions about the environment in a confirmation hearing.  Or, trying to.  ::)  Unbelievable!

(Senator Whitehouse continually gives speeches on the floor of the Senate, warning about climate change.)

https://twitter.com/adamparkhomenko/status/929598544171945984 (https://twitter.com/adamparkhomenko/status/929598544171945984)
Wow, just Wow!
Terry
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on November 15, 2017, 03:31:02 PM
It looks like Trumps proposed budget cuts to NOAA, and other related agencies will severely limit data need to calibrate climate models, for years to come:

Title: "Flying Blind: The Dangerous Decline of the U.S. Ocean Monitoring Fleet"

https://www.newsdeeply.com/oceans/articles/2017/11/14/flying-blind-the-dangerous-decline-of-the-u-s-ocean-monitoring-fleet

Extract: "Budget shortfalls and aging ships are starting to undermine key climate-change data-collection programs that help scientists gauge the state of the world’s oceans.

President Trump’s proposed budget contains deep cuts to NOAA and other agencies collecting climate-related data. NOAA’s Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research said that the cuts would kill “Arctic research focused on improvements to sea ice modeling and predictions that support the safety of fishermen, commercial shippers, cruise ships and local communities,” Science reported.

Even if such programs are restored, Ekwurzel said, “it could take years to recover.” Periods of data blackouts detract from robust results, and knowledge is lost when scientists leave ongoing projects.

“Cuts in one year can have big consequences in such complicated science,” she said."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: gerontocrat on November 17, 2017, 02:50:32 PM
Herewith some extracts from the official FY 2018 budget proposal documents of the US budget offices of NOAA and the Department of Energy. Just google budget office and department name and off you go.

Read and despair - the devil is in the detail.

The sums involved are chump change compared with the hundreds of billions of tax cuts to be thrown at those who don not need them but are hugely damaging to science, especially on Planet Earth research. e.g. Will the GRACE follow-on project be cancelled / crippled ?

Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: sidd on November 17, 2017, 08:55:12 PM
Thats interesting: fossil energy budget at DOE cut by 45% since 2016 ? Is that an error or are they sneaking the money back in somehow ?

sidd
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Rob Dekker on November 18, 2017, 05:29:56 AM
Thats interesting: fossil energy budget at DOE cut by 45% since 2016 ? Is that an error or are they sneaking the money back in somehow ?

The bulk of dollars that got cut in the "fossil energy" section is in "Fossil Energy Research and Development".

Here is an overview of that program :
https://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2013/04/f0/14_Budget_Brief.pdf

Secure, affordable and environmentally acceptable energy sources are
essential to the Nation’s security and economic prosperity. The Fossil
Energy Research and Development (FER&D) program leads Federal research,
development, and demonstration efforts on advanced carbon
capture, and storage (CCS) technologies
to facilitate achievement of the
President’s climate goals. FER&D also develops technological solutions
for the prudent and sustainable development of our unconventional domestic
resources.

So we are mainly looking at the Trump administration killing off CCS technology.

Overall, the biggest looser in this budget is "Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy" which got cut by far the largest amount ($1.4 billion; a whopping -69%).
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Rob Dekker on November 18, 2017, 05:49:59 AM
While Trump is running a reality show from the White House, his Republican Congress is passing bills favoring the fossil fuel industry and against science.

Latest one is this bill, which will hand over Public land and water to the oil industry.
Keep your eye on it while it moves through the process :

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/4239
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on November 19, 2017, 03:23:35 AM
Maybe, just maybe, they won't put this industry shill in charge of regulating his own industry?

GOP opposition endangers Trump’s pick to regulate toxic chemicals
Two Republican senators have announced they oppose President Donald Trump's controversial pick to become the nation's top regulator of toxic chemicals, putting his nomination in serious jeopardy.
...
Dourson has elicited a fierce backlash from Democrats and public-health advocates for his long record of industry-funded research, which chemical manufacturers have used to downplay the risks of potentially hazardous substances. ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/gop-opposition-endangers-trump-s-pick-regulate-toxic-chemicals-n821416
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Susan Anderson on November 19, 2017, 06:17:54 AM
It does look like some Republicans are seeing the handwriting on the wall and detaching themselves from a tiny bit of the worst of the worst, though they've already OK'd worlds of harm (literally). Thanks for sharing this.

Maybe, just maybe, they won't put this industry shill in charge of regulating his own industry?

GOP opposition endangers Trump’s pick to regulate toxic chemicals
Two Republican senators have announced they oppose President Donald Trump's controversial pick to become the nation's top regulator of toxic chemicals, putting his nomination in serious jeopardy.
...
Dourson has elicited a fierce backlash from Democrats and public-health advocates for his long record of industry-funded research, which chemical manufacturers have used to downplay the risks of potentially hazardous substances. ...
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: AbruptSLR on November 29, 2017, 04:29:29 PM
The GOP has added legislation to allow drilling in ANWR to the Senate's tax code overhaul bill.

Title: "Democrats worry Arctic National Wildlife Refuge being lost amid tax debate"

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/29/arctic-national-wildlife-refuge-267819

Title: "The prospect of drilling in the untouched Alaskan tundra is as close to reality as it's been in more than a decade, with none of the political drama that in past decades turned the refuge's fate into a top-tier rallying cry for liberals. Legislation to allow drilling in ANWR is quietly hitching a ride on the tax code overhaul that Senate Republicans hope to complete by the end of the week, overshadowed by larger debates on whether the bill is a giveaway to rich people and corporations at the expense of the poor and working class."
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: 6roucho on November 29, 2017, 04:55:45 PM
Thats interesting: fossil energy budget at DOE cut by 45% since 2016 ? Is that an error or are they sneaking the money back in somehow ?

The bulk of dollars that got cut in the "fossil energy" section is in "Fossil Energy Research and Development".

Here is an overview of that program :
https://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2013/04/f0/14_Budget_Brief.pdf

Secure, affordable and environmentally acceptable energy sources are
essential to the Nation’s security and economic prosperity. The Fossil
Energy Research and Development (FER&D) program leads Federal research,
development, and demonstration efforts on advanced carbon
capture, and storage (CCS) technologies
to facilitate achievement of the
President’s climate goals. FER&D also develops technological solutions
for the prudent and sustainable development of our unconventional domestic
resources.

So we are mainly looking at the Trump administration killing off CCS technology.

Overall, the biggest looser in this budget is "Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy" which got cut by far the largest amount ($1.4 billion; a whopping -69%).

The real ‘budget’ for extraction industries comes in the form of subsidies across their business cycle, from exploration to construction to distribution networks, which amount to trillions of dollars over time. The forthcoming corporate tax cut is more of the same, since the fossil fuel industry remains nx the size and profitability of the renewables sector. That amount of money pays for an awful lot of competitive advantage.
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on December 07, 2017, 06:59:14 PM
Let’s review.

Trump science job nominees missing advanced science degrees
WASHINGTON (AP) — When it comes to filling jobs dealing with complex science, environment and health issues, the Trump administration is nominating people with fewer science academic credentials than their Obama predecessors. And it’s moving slower as well.

Of 43 Trump administration nominees in science-related positions — including two for Health and Human Services secretary — almost 60 percent did not have a master’s degree or a doctorate in a science or health field, according to an Associated Press analysis. For their immediate predecessors in the Obama administration, it was almost the opposite: more than 60 percent had advanced science degrees.
https://apnews.com/fc357285cc2d491abfa5cc0d817603ba/Trump-science-job-nominees-missing-advanced-science-degrees
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on December 08, 2017, 01:47:51 AM
EPA Chief Pruitt asked mining industry to tell Trump to pull out of Paris Accord.

EPA watchdog to investigate Pruitt meeting with industry group
Pruitt met with the mining group in April and reportedly urged association members to tell President Trump to pull the United States out of the Paris climate deal.

Critics of the meeting, including Democrats and liberal groups, say a request like that from a Cabinet member violates anti-lobbying laws for government officials. They want the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to provide a legal opinion on that question, and they asked the inspector general to first “develop a comprehensive factual record" for use in such an analysis. ...
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/363586-epa-watchdog-to-investigate-pruitt-meeting-with-industry-group
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on December 08, 2017, 08:42:43 PM
Congress Questions Pruitt on Industry's Growing Influence in EPA
In his first oversight hearing, the environment agency chief said he would replace Obama’s Clean Power Plan and challenge a key finding with a 'red team' exercise.
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/07122017/scott-pruitt-epa-testimony-congress-hearing-climate-clean-power-plan-red-team-fossil-fuel-lobby
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: Sigmetnow on December 08, 2017, 08:58:15 PM
How Fossil Fuel Donors Shaped the Anti-Climate Agenda of a Powerful Congressional Committee
Rep. Lamar Smith has led a strategic attack on climate science using the committee he chairs. Back in Texas, his constituents face the effects of global warming.
Sixteen-term Republican Lamar Smith has used his power as chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee for the past five years to do battle on behalf of the fossil fuel industry. Embracing the arguments of a small group of climate contrarians, Smith acknowledges that warming is happening but says more research is needed to determine the amount and causes, and whether it does more good than harm. ...
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/05122017/lamar-smith-congress-climate-change-fossil-fuel-industry-house-science-committee
Title: Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
Post by: NevB on December 12, 2017, 02:35:16 AM
How much will this transfer of knowledge to France affect US climate science?
 
Eighteen climate scientists from the US and elsewhere have hit the jackpot as France’s president, Emmanuel Macron, awarded them millions of euros in grants to relocate to France for the rest of Donald Trump’s presidential term.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/dec/11/macron-awards-grants-to-us-scientists-to-move-to-france-in-defiance-of-trump (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/dec/11/macron-awards-grants-to-us-scientists-to-move-to-france-in-defiance-of-trump)