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Title: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 18, 2018, 10:55:52 AM
I've installed the SMF Likes Pro mod. I'd appreciate feedback, because there are a lot of settings that can be tweaked.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Avalonian on April 18, 2018, 11:02:46 AM
Hmm... good news, but I'm not seeing it. Might that be because I'm in China, though, I wonder..?
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 18, 2018, 11:10:35 AM
Are you using a theme other than default?

It should look like this:
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Avalonian on April 18, 2018, 11:41:35 AM
Default setting, and it's just like that image... except that the 'unlike' button and the 'split topic' button aren't there. It could well be a Chinese thing - there are a lot of bits of functionality on websites that rely on something like google or Youtube to power them, and just end up vanishing. If other people can see it, then it's almost certainly not a problem!
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: oren on April 18, 2018, 11:47:50 AM
I can see the liked / likes given on the left bar. Can't see the like button next to the quote button, if that's where it's supposed to be. Default theme. And not in China. Suspect some other setting is amiss.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: FredBear on April 18, 2018, 11:50:44 AM
I'm still only getting "Quote" on the header line (in UK), although the "Liked" bar is showing under the name of the poster. Neven, your posts here are the only ones with 1 "Liked" I have noticed so far, Thanks.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: pikaia on April 18, 2018, 12:19:33 PM
This is what I see - no Like button visible.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: charles_oil on April 18, 2018, 12:33:53 PM

Thanks Neven -


If the "like" button is one of the little icons - I can't see which by hovering... some posts have two, some 4 beneath the poster's name
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: charles_oil on April 18, 2018, 12:36:40 PM
\tried logging out and in again - still not visible ....
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: ivica on April 18, 2018, 12:39:47 PM
Default setting, and it's just like that image... except that the 'unlike' button and the 'split topic' button aren't there. It could well be a Chinese thing - there are a lot of bits of functionality on websites that rely on something like google or Youtube to power them, and just end up vanishing. If other people can see it, then it's almost certainly not a problem!

Seems like "Google APIs" is in play here.

Also, I confirm " 'unlike' button and the 'split topic' button aren't there."
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: FredBear on April 18, 2018, 12:42:32 PM
Neven, all(?) your posts get 1 "Liked", old ones too - and I still can't add to them! Sorry.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 18, 2018, 12:55:28 PM
Also, I confirm " 'unlike' button and the 'split topic' button aren't there."

Ah yes, the Modify, Remove and Split Topic buttons can only be seen by me, because I'm an admin. But it's weird there's no 'like/unlike', left of 'quote'...

I'll see if I can change this.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Pmt111500 on April 18, 2018, 01:04:21 PM
Í see only the 'like' on top of messages. I hope there is no notification of likes to the posters, like in some forums. 
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: crandles on April 18, 2018, 01:04:36 PM
I see the like on this thread but not on other threads. [edit ignore that it is me being silly]

I liked the top two posts on this thread, and it shows likes given 2 for me. So far so good.
Neven and Avalonian bars are all green showing they have been liked, but can't see total number of likes for them, which seems odd.

Edit:
Hmm. changed again. Avalonian now shows 50% green and hovering suggest 1 like and 2 posts made (presumably since mod was made)
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: pikaia on April 18, 2018, 01:06:14 PM
When I click on Like, the number of Likes does not change.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: crandles on April 18, 2018, 01:14:47 PM
Have to hover over bar to see number of likes. Bar shows ratio of likes to posts.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 18, 2018, 01:32:06 PM
I've removed the bar, so now you see how often someone received likes, and how often he has given likes.

Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 18, 2018, 01:36:05 PM
I'd like for it to be seen how many likes a post receives, but not the persons who likes them. Even though I've ticked the box for 'Show Total of Likes in each Post', I'm not seeing them. For instance, the opening post of this thread should be showing 2 likes.

Here's how it looks if I untick the box for 'Hide List of Likers in Posts':
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 18, 2018, 01:45:21 PM
I've asked for help from the SMFPacks team.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: gerontocrat on April 18, 2018, 01:50:35 PM
I've removed the bar, so now you see how often someone received likes, and how often he has given likes.

Dear Guv'Nor,

I am so glad you did not add a "boo! hiss!" option.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 19, 2018, 12:01:22 AM
To those who see 'like' next to 'quote', do you also see an icon next to it (a heart or something)? Because I don't. I also don't see how many likes a particular post has received.

PS I'm off to bed now. Hopefully I'll find a solution tomorrow.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: pikaia on April 19, 2018, 12:16:32 AM
There is nothing next to the 'like' and 'quote'.

Also, the number of likes refers to the poster, not to the post.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Avalonian on April 19, 2018, 01:49:48 AM
Sadly not, Neven - nowt there but the 'quote' button. I'm pretty certain that nothing can be done for those of us in China (except running a system that uses a different engine, maybe), but it's hardly the end of the world. I'm not sure whether there are others in different regions who also can't see it, though?

Anyhow, thanks for trying to sort it out!
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: oren on April 19, 2018, 02:39:04 AM
There is nothing next to the 'like' and 'quote'.

Also, the number of likes refers to the poster, not to the post.
Same here.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: charles_oil on April 19, 2018, 03:10:31 AM


Works fine now - maybe a midnight auto-reset happened ?


A little Like button next to the "quote" one and each post has number of likes as well as number of posts the poster has liked.


But I agree with Oren - don't see the number of likes for the particular post.


Thanks
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 19, 2018, 09:23:03 AM
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Something about cache might play a role, according to the SMFPacks helpdesk. I'll see if I can get any further today.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 19, 2018, 09:53:44 AM
Is there anyone who can see how many likes a particular post/comment receives?
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: DrTskoul on April 19, 2018, 10:31:30 AM
I have not been able yet. I have "test" liked a few posts, but no "like" info....
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: crandles on April 19, 2018, 12:32:43 PM
Is there anyone who can see how many likes a particular post/comment receives?

Only for a brief period when it said who.

It would be nice to see which posts are liked. While I wonder if it tends to make the forum more of an echo chamber, it is worth trying it to see what happens.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: DrTskoul on April 19, 2018, 01:41:52 PM
Is there anyone who can see how many likes a particular post/comment receives?

Only for a brief period when it said who.

It would be nice to see which posts are liked. While I wonder if it tends to make the forum more of an echo chamber, it is worth trying it to see what happens.
That is a valid counterargument for "likes".....
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Pmt111500 on April 19, 2018, 01:44:57 PM
Nope, no message-specific likes here, pressing 'like' sets the poster to liked status and this shows on every message.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 19, 2018, 01:54:54 PM
While I wonder if it tends to make the forum more of an echo chamber, it is worth trying it to see what happens.

Yes, that's why I prefer not to show who liked whom.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: charles_oil on April 19, 2018, 02:03:02 PM

I think that the more useful stat if we can get it is certainly the likes for the individual post - otherwise prolific posters / readers will rack up thousands but it won't be very informative about the rank of an individual post.   Agree too that anonymous is  best.


Conversely the "likes per person" will be skewed as there are already a lot of historical posts, and there will be many people that post less now than before, so haven't had "likes" running.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: oren on April 20, 2018, 11:20:46 PM
Since the recent forum change I'm seeing quoted sections in double-spaced format , rather than the nornal single-spaced. Did this somehow come with the "likes" package or is it just a coincidence? It's bothering me as it reduces readability.
Note: see this on my phone. Not sure about the pc at the moment.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 21, 2018, 10:33:35 AM
Since the recent forum change I'm seeing quoted sections in double-spaced format , rather than the nornal single-spaced. Did this somehow come with the "likes" package or is it just a coincidence? It's bothering me as it reduces readability.
Note: see this on my phone. Not sure about the pc at the moment.

Which theme are you using on your phone, this one (Curve alt2) or Exodus, or something else? Let me know if it's different on your PC.

I haven't come any further, because the guy from the helpdesk wants admin access to forum and server. I'm not sure if that's a wise thing to do, so I've asked DungeonMaster, but he hasn't replied yet.

Either way, I was hoping that paying 30 euros would assure a smooth installation, but of course, it isn't a small mod.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Tor Bejnar on April 21, 2018, 04:56:42 PM
I want to make sure Neven knows he is well liked.  And what an easy way to do so.  Can the admins look up who likes whom?
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: oren on April 21, 2018, 07:31:49 PM
Which theme are you using on your phone, this one (Curve alt2) or Exodus, or something else? Let me know if it's different on your PC.
Not using any theme. It used to be the same on my PC and phone. Now the PC still shows the same as before, but the phone uses double spacing for quotes. Strange, and annoying.

Top image as seen on the phone. Bottom image as seen on PC. Am I the only one with this strange issue?
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Sleepy on April 22, 2018, 07:30:27 AM
I want to make sure Neven knows he is well liked.  And what an easy way to do so.  Can the admins look up who likes whom?

Some features of SMFpacks:

Quote
- Enable Likes per board!
- Select, per board, if likes can be given only to first post.
- Great look & feel!
- Likes in topic tree are sorted by number of likes to show the important posts at first.
- Optionally show total of likes in topic header.
- Optionally show list of likes per message.
- Total of likes received are (optionally) shown in posts, and personal messages.
- Total of likes given are (optionally) shown in posts, and personal messages.
- Preview List of Likers in each post, configurable in Administration.
- All these features can be enabled or disabled in Admin Panel.
- Unlike Posts with Ajax too!
- Like individual posts not only Topics.
- Show Total of Likes in Posts.
- Show List of People Who Liked each Post in same using Ajax.
- Total of likes received are shown in member list and profile too.
- Like Permission
- Full Cache implementation to make this mod work without even being noticed by your server.
- Likes Stats allow you to view the posts/likes ratio of your community.
- Show Top 10 Liked Topics and Users.
- Optionally Allow Owner to Like his own posts. (Total Likes received won't be increased).
- Anti-Spam Measure: Allow Likes for same users every X seconds.
- Show Total of Likes received by a Topic in Message Index.
- If last option is enabled, you can sort topics by Likes.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: charles_oil on April 26, 2018, 12:43:01 AM
The "Like" system seems to have changed again - have I missed something ?  Now seems to be just per post and identifies who likes it.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Sleepy on April 26, 2018, 06:09:54 AM
Yeah, guess Neven changed his mind?
While I wonder if it tends to make the forum more of an echo chamber, it is worth trying it to see what happens.

Yes, that's why I prefer not to show who liked whom.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: gerontocrat on April 26, 2018, 06:40:15 AM
Yeah, guess Neven changed his mind?
While I wonder if it tends to make the forum more of an echo chamber, it is worth trying it to see what happens.

Yes, that's why I prefer not to show who liked whom.
I have stopped using it. Secret ballot or no ballot.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: oren on April 26, 2018, 09:37:55 AM
I think DM did it by mistake? It should be changed back.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on April 26, 2018, 09:49:30 AM
I think DM did it by mistake? It should be changed back.

Yes, DM removed some old stuff that was in the way, but now the menu is gone with which I could configure this. I'll change it back once I have control again.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Sterks on April 27, 2018, 05:24:15 PM
While I wonder if it tends to make the forum more of an echo chamber, it is worth trying it to see what happens.

Yes, that's why I prefer not to show who liked whom.

Yeah, the anonymous like is more of my liking as well. So I understand you are just waiting for some mod to happen before you can set it up that way again.
So I guess it will be a nice add on. I hope some valid contributors are not deterred to post further when they find out how impopular they are, but it  may also encourage people that post the really good stuff!
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: oren on May 09, 2018, 08:46:52 AM
I think DM did it by mistake? It should be changed back.

Yes, DM removed some old stuff that was in the way, but now the menu is gone with which I could configure this. I'll change it back once I have control again.
Is the change back to "anonymity" still going to happen? I hope so.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on May 09, 2018, 10:31:49 PM
I'm not happy with how it is now either, oren. The problem is I installed the SMF Likes Pro (the paid version), because the free SMF Likes Plus mod was no longer supported. The point is that DungeonMaster had already installed the Plus version a few years ago, but not activated it, so to say.

So, when I turned to him to report this problem, he installed the Plus version, and uninstalled the Pro version (or at least, I can no longer find the configuration menu). I mailed him after that to say what my goal was, but he hasn't replied since, which to me is a sign that he's too busy. And I don't want to bother him.

I think I'll give it another try, uninstall everything and install SMF Likes Pro again. I just hope I don't screw things up. Which is why I'll do it tomorrow, as I'm too tired now.  :)
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on May 12, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
Okay, I'm going to try some things now. Wish me luck.  ;)
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on May 12, 2018, 02:20:31 PM
Here's what I did:

Uninstall Likes Plus
Delete Likes Plus
Delete Likes Pro
Update Forum to 2.0.15
Upload Likes Pro
Install Likes Pro

I have the Configuration menu back, but (for me) the same problems persist, and I can no longer see the 'like' button now.  >:( :(

Oh well, if I have the time later today, I'll go and ask that SMF Packs guy again, and then bother DungeonMaster some more.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: crandles on May 12, 2018, 02:24:58 PM
Tried to like a post (link to do so visible) but now a pop up window says only people who have received 5 likes can like posts.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on May 12, 2018, 02:44:09 PM
That's something I can fix, crandles! And I'm also seeing the Like button now.

So, it's back to square one.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: crandles on May 12, 2018, 04:23:29 PM
That's something I can fix, crandles! And I'm also seeing the Like button now.

So, it's back to square one.
Yes fixed.  :)
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: charles_oil on May 12, 2018, 05:55:16 PM
The like button is still there - and the score for each person is shown (liked / likes given) but now it doesn't show if a post has been liked or total of how many likes have been given for an individual post....
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: magnamentis on May 12, 2018, 10:52:37 PM
i liked the last implementation where one could see who liked what.

it can keep a lot of unnececessary disputes away from this forum when i see who likes what and/or whom so i don't have to waste my breath to reply and safe everyone the difficult energy ;)

a bit exaggerated maybe but there is something to it.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on May 12, 2018, 11:03:00 PM
I thought it was okay for the Arctic sea ice segment of the forum, so people can express their gratitude for stuff others are posting, but in the discussions on politics, economics and technology, I think it's better if things stay anonymous, as it's more about agreement than gratitude there. Things get heated and personal easily as it is.

I will try to improve things some more in the coming week.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Martin Gisser on May 12, 2018, 11:57:00 PM
What magnamentis said: Now I have to say this instead of just liking.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: magnamentis on May 13, 2018, 11:16:16 PM
I thought it was okay for the Arctic sea ice segment of the forum, so people can express their gratitude for stuff others are posting, but in the discussions on politics, economics and technology, I think it's better if things stay anonymous, as it's more about agreement than gratitude there. Things get heated and personal easily as it is.

I will try to improve things some more in the coming week.

your call as always and anyways the effort is highly appreciated. thing is that if i want someone (and others) to know that i liked a statement (post) i don't have to post, if it's anonymous i have to post to make show appreciation or "accord"

what i said above "especially" applied to the political discussions because it's exactly in political discussions where some people are so far away form each other, and i do not only mean opinion but also style, means and genereal approach ( political correct vs. straight forward for example ) that i think it's sometimes better to "agree to disagree" silently which is only possible when i know who is in which camp, generally speaking.

as i said, your call, just trying to contribute things to consider.
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Tor Bejnar on May 14, 2018, 08:55:04 PM
Further to what Charles wrote, is there a way to view only liked posts?  I was remembering a post made by Ned W last year (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,143.msg122272.html#msg122272) with his '1,000,000 km potential last ice' map, so I went and 'liked' it.  I'm sure there are some Chris Reynolds' posts that deserve liking - they get referred to from time to time.  [How about a method of identifying posts that got quoted a month or more after original posting?!]

A quick way to 'catch up' on a thread may be to view only previously liked posts in that thread.  It would give 'liking' an archival purpose.  (I know, there could be a conspiracy:  I'll like everything you post if you like everything I post.)

The like button ... doesn't show if a post has been liked or total of how many likes have been given for an individual post....
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Tor Bejnar on August 20, 2019, 08:06:53 PM
We were told where we can see how 'liked' a post is
I quickly viewed the several likes I've given and the several posts of mine that have been liked.  Very few of my liked posts get more than 1 like (with an average very near 1), whereas the posts liked by me nearly always have at least 2 likes (with an average probably in the 2-4 range).

Does this mean I have a secret admirer and, rarely, I post something worthy - but I have an eye for other's good posts?
 :P ::) :o
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Neven on August 20, 2019, 08:20:43 PM
Quote
Does this mean I have a secret admirer

Would you like me to check if your wife has a secret account here? That would be kind of romantic, wouldn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: blumenkraft on August 20, 2019, 10:04:50 PM
We were told where we can see how 'liked' a post is
  • Members: Search for Members: ("Neven" as an example): select that member: Profile Info: Show Posts: Liked or Show Posts: Likes Given.
I quickly viewed the several likes I've given and the several posts of mine that have been liked.  Very few of my liked posts get more than 1 like (with an average very near 1), whereas the posts liked by me nearly always have at least 2 likes (with an average probably in the 2-4 range).

Does this mean I have a secret admirer and, rarely, I post something worthy - but I have an eye for other's good posts?
 :P ::) :o

/me liked!   8)
Title: Re: Comments/posts can be liked now
Post by: Tor Bejnar on August 21, 2019, 04:25:22 PM
Quote
Does this mean I have a secret admirer

Would you like me to check if your wife has a secret account here? That would be kind of romantic, wouldn't it?  ;D
I'd rather think it true than find out it isn't.  ::)
(so much for believing in the scientific method) :o