Democratic congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar have called for the police officer who knelt on George Floyd‘s neck to be charged with murder, as the former claims politicians are scared of “the political power of police.”
Tucker Carlson Calls Protests Against Police Violence 'A Form Of Tyranny' : The Fox News host seemed fine with protests featuring armed right-wingers rallying against coronavirus lockdowns.
An agent provocateur (French for "inciting agent") is a person who commits or who acts to entice another person to commit an illegal or rash act or falsely implicate them in partaking in an illegal act, so as to ruin the reputation or entice legal action against the target or a group they belong to. An agent provocateur may be a member of a law enforcement agency acting out of their own sense of duty or under orders, or other entity. They may target any group, such as a peaceful protest or demonstration, a union, a political party or a company.
Next thing you know, they'll be wanting to go back to living in caves, nobody work any more, live that way for a while.” Old Man Warner responds to Mr. Adams who tells him that another village had given up the lottery...
Can't compare peaceful demonstrations with mass arson and looting. :-X
I got a police knee in my neck several times during protests, but was that the reason he died ?
Ex-Minneapolis police officer Derick Chauvin saw at least 10 conduct complaints during his 19-year tenure before he was fired Tuesday, according to a database that documents complaints against police. In particular, he was involved in the shooting death of a man who had stabbed other people before attacking police, as well as some other undisclosed complaints. Klobuchar did not prosecute Chauvin for the first death, and he was later placed on leave when he and other officers shot and wounded an Native American man in 2011.
I got a police knee in my neck several times during protests, but was that the reason he died ?
<Hold your horses, Alexander. Racism snipped! BK>
Yup, just down the street from where I live, the people have reversed the usual flow of violence--top to bottom--to the opposite direction.Stay safe mate! It's not looking good there... This could easily escalate into something bigger if Trump thinks it would benefit him. And who doubts he's not already thinking about using this to create even more division? It wouldn't be hard with all that unemployment and right wing nutcases with guns for this to exploded nationwide...
Still just 'pawns in their game,' but not something that happens every day in America or the world.
“When the looting starts, the shooting starts,” is a threat coined by Miami Police Chief Walter Headley, who promised violent reprisals on black protesters in 1967. He also said: “We don’t mind being accused of police brutality. They haven’t seen anything yet.”
I got a police knee in my neck several times during protests, but was that the reason he died ?
<Hold your horses, Alexander. Racism snipped! BK>
He died as a result of the knee to the neck. It cut off his windpipe and after 8 minutes, that's a lot oxygen deprivation.
The reason why it's a big deal is because this is a massive miscarriage of justice. Police officers are expected to not be judge, jury and executioner.
Over the last few years, the rise of cell phones have shown arrests and police officer-involved shootings have had a lot questionable judgment made by officers. This is especially highlighted when the citizen is black. It is horrific. The pattern of avoidable deaths and injuries committee by officers on black citizens is disgustingly higher in proportion to other races. Americans expect a fair trial for those who have seemingly murdered someone. The other aspect is the culture of protecting police officers from the same standards as citizens.
I am surprised that there hasn't been any motions on arresting the officers and charging them with murder.
I am disgusted with the poor policing and excuses for not having "functioning" body cameras.
Keep filming interactions with police. hold them to a high standard.
From a friend of my daughter's who was there:QuoteFor my friends outside of Minneapolis:
I’m not sure what news outlets are saying about last nights events, but since I’m sure it’s not accurate, here is what I want observed as someone who was at the protest from 5pm till early in the morning
-when I showed up, the protest was a large group of people passing around a microphone, expressing their emotions to the crowd around them
-while this was happening, police on the rooftop of the precinct were shooting rubber bullets into the fringes of the crowd, unprovoked
-people began throwing water bottles at the precinct, and in retaliation the police shot a dozen cans of tear gas into the crowd
-I watched as people who were kneeling on the ground in front of the barricade created by police, had flash grenades go off literally a few feet away from their face
-I then watched as police walked up to these people, peacefully sitting on the ground, and mace them, point blank
-I saw a man get hit in the side of the face with a can of tear gas fired from less than ten feet away
-I watched as community leaders attempted to guard local businesses, to keep out people who had come from outside our community
-police continued to shoot into the crowd indiscriminately, often times unprovoked. Heavy use of tear gas and literally thousands of rubber bullets
-police escalated the situation to the point of where local businesses turned their store front into medical aid stations and triage centers for protestors who were badly injured from police force
Whatever the answers to those questions are, 99.9% of the protesters are not arsonists. Period. They have every right to be outraged.
Amy Klobuchar declined to prosecute officer at center of George Floyd's death after previous conduct complaints
I've been working on a list, please feel free to share it:
firing something at innocent person on their porch:
https://streamable.com/u2jzoo
cop way too excited to fuck some people up:
https://v.redd.it/jjclrdzp8x151
cop shooting rubber bullet at guy for saying "fuck you":
https://v.redd.it/zepg0b43ly151
cops breaking supplies for peaceful protestors:
https://v.redd.it/v8x8isj0xz151
nypd driving into protestors:
https://v.redd.it/mztm15kh00251 https://gfycat.com/misguidedrecklesscod
cops shoving an old dude to the ground:
https://v.redd.it/bluggpblrz151
police actively seeking out fights compilation:
https://v.redd.it/m82yxl4qh0251
cop driving at people aggressively on a campus:
https://v.redd.it/ngxvkoro60251
cop shooting rubber bullets at people watching from apartment:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sarah_Mojarad/status/1266633046591078400?s=09
police shooting the press with rubber bullets:
https://v.redd.it/o3v8ps7rat151
police arresting a CNN reporter:
https://v.redd.it/yce9bpk8mo151
police doing a drive-by pepper spraying
https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1266193926316228609
photographer being pepper sprayed:
https://i.redd.it/4ix8f3j6dy151.jpg
guy with hands in the air gets his mask ripped off and pepper sprayed:
https://v.redd.it/wlx0gyoe21251
lady who was coming home with groceries who got a rubber bullet to the head:
https://i.redd.it/ns0uj557x0251.jpg
https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinRKrause/status/1266898396339675137
reporter blinded by rubber bullets:
https://mobile.twitter.com/KillerMartinis/status/1266618525600399361?s=19
reporter describes getting tear gassed:
https://mobile.twitter.com/mollyhf/status/1266911382613692422
couple getting yanked out of their car and tased for violating curfew:
https://mobile.twitter.com/GAFollowers/status/1266919104574865410?s=19
young woman gets shoved to the ground by officer:
https://mobile.twitter.com/whitney_hu/status/1266540710188195843?s=20
reporter sheltering in gas station is pepper sprayed:
https://twitter.com/MichaelAdams317
reporter trying to get home gets window shot out: https://twitter.com/JaredGoyette/status/1266961243476299778
cops come at a guy for filming a police car burning:
https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1266953514242228229
photographer arrested:
https://youtu.be/9wgkGLmphLE
Columbus police assaulting protestors:
https://twitter.com/KRobPhoto/status/1266796191469252610
congresswoman sprayed with pepper spray during protest:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/politics/joyce-beatty-ohio-pepper-sprayed-columbus-protest/index.html
7 protesters fired on with rubber bullets:
https://v.redd.it/tal1ncha4o151
cops pepper spraying a group of protestors without provocation https://v.redd.it/0dxnkso0a1251
young child allegedly pepper sprayed:
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/video-shows-milk-poured-over-face-of-child-pepper-sprayed-in-seattle-protest
if you have anything you'd like to add please link it!
Phoenix...yes, the rage is born of many things from various sides. Can't dig up the study now, but a couple years ago it came out that middle to lower class whites were the only demographic in the US (and I think Canada, too) whose mortality and morbidity rates were getting steadily worse. The causes were primarily suicide and what I would call suicide by other means...drugs, alcohol, 'accidents'... I can think of no more raw measure of the despair of a group for whatever cause, than those stats.There was some newspaper articles earlier this year about a new book titled "Deaths of Despair" It was pretty grim.
Pretty inevitable that some of that despair would express itself as outward violence, at some point, perhaps
it's the powerful vs. the oppressed.
it's the powerful vs. the oppressed.
I agree but, the quality and quantity of oppression is merely defined by skin color. Oftentimes in fascism vs. rule of law kind of level of difference.
But the extermination of six million Jews in the Holocaust is a reminder that color is completely unnecessary for oppressive forces to find the hierarchy they seek.
If I woke up tomorrow and my boss
told me that today at my job I had to
shoot rubber bullets and throw tear
gas at people protesting racism
because one of my coworkers killed
someone in cold blood, I would
simply quit that job and do
something useful like stock grocery
shelves.
But the extermination of six million Jews in the Holocaust is a reminder that color is completely unnecessary for oppressive forces to find the hierarchy they seek.
Nope, it's the exact same thing: The belief in the existence of 'race'.
The official repport says he did not die from suffocation. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8371557/George-Floyds-autopsy-claims-died-underlying-heart-conditions-not-strangulation.html
We are pretty much in agreement.
The official repport says he did not die from suffocation. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8371557/George-Floyds-autopsy-claims-died-underlying-heart-conditions-not-strangulation.html
So long as we all understand that it was related to stresses related to his difficulty breathing because of the cop, that's all that matters. It's a homicide either way.
It's a homicide either way.
I think the protesters want him to be suffocated. So they have a reason to burn and loot.
“Like it’s been reported, I feel like it’s a lot of outsiders coming in,” said Dan Prentice.
Yes, bruce, in a situation made up of tens of thousands of people or more, there are going to be many varieties of folks.
But let's not resort to false equivalences.
There are orders of magnitude more folks on the extreme right ready to take things to violent levels (encouraged, for pete's sake, by the president himself) than there are on 'the left' to the extent that such a thing even exists in the US in a form recognizable to the rest of the world. ...
It also reveals, citing the FBI, that on May 27, two days after Floyd’s death, “a white supremacist extremist Telegram channel incited followers to engage in violence and start the ‘boogaloo ’— a term used by some violent extremists to refer to the start of a second Civil War — by shooting in a crowd.” One Telegram message encouraged potential shooters to “frame the crowd around you” for the violence, the document said.
So, here's the situation:
1. We have organized to protect our homes, businesses, an lives because the MPD will not do it.
2. When we do find a white supremacist, looter, or fire starter, we are supposed to call the very white supremacist organization that caused all of this, trusting them to suddenly move from laughing and mocking while they shoot, mace, and teargas our community to caring for us and protecting us from racist white men like themselves.
3. Literally at the same moments that white men in a Chevy Durango stop in an alley and shoot several rounds in the air to terrorize us, the police are arresting community members who are trying to protect our neighborhood because they won't.
At the VERY LEAST, as my friend Dahveed Zee has pointed out, the MPD should have been benched during all of this instead of being in charge of the response.
If Governor Tim Walz and Mayor Jacob Frey were genuinely interested in actual change, they would have at the very least had us deal with cops from other jurisdictions.
#BlackLivesMattter pls dont pick up a brick , its a set up guys
I ask the moderators to moderate people on this post trying to foment violence and terror.
Alexander555, you haven't said one intelligent or wise thing in this thread. With such a low score, it may be better to just be silent.
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/lk060220dapr.jpg.webp?resize=550x550)I don’t see anything here.
I don’t see anything here.
What the president and others don't realize is that we're not just protesting the death of George Floyd (or Breonna Taylor, or Ahmaud Arbery, or Eric Garner, or Alton Sterling, or Philando Castile). We are also protesting the racist culture embedded in police precincts throughout the nation—and the brutality that comes with it.
“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” Mattis writes. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership.
<removed>
We're not eager to get back to normal
We're planning on how to go forward
to something that will be better
than the old fucking normal...
Black Lives Matter affiliate Movement for Black Lives spent thousands of dollars to produce cloth face masks for protestors to send all around the United States. Some of the masks, which read “Stop Killing Black People” and “Defund Police,” have been seized by law enforcement.
Chile’s Interior Minister announced Wednesday that the country’s police forces will be temporarily prohibited from using tear gas against protesters after a study by the University of Chile showed that CS gas, also known as chlorobenzylidene malonontrite, may cause miscarriages and harm young children.
“There’s a probability that the chemical substances in tear gas can affect reproductive function, damage the fetus in the last trimester of pregnancy and children in the first years of life,” said Andrei Tchernitchin, a toxicology expert at the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Chile.
If you received the typical, white-centric education, you probably associate the Black Panthers only with violence and political protest. This week on Sawbones, we talk about their work in medical research advocacy and creating public health programs that sought to make life better for all black and oppressed people.
WASHINGTON, April 11 [1] -- U.S. forces should not be blamed for the lawlessness and looting in Baghdad as it is a natural consequence of the transition from a dictatorship to a free country, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Friday at the Pentagon.
Why are people scared of the riots and looting?
The flu kills way more people every year.
While the world condemns China for its response to the Hong Kong protests, the numbers and the images make clear that the US has responded to its popular uprising with more force and less tolerance than Beijing
Iranian Foreign Ministry’s emotional appeal to US Govt to stop using police brutality against their own people in their right of protest.
If your first reaction to this is to think about Iranian repression, ponder how similar denunciations from the US Govt sound to the world:
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after
that, had two enemies: The antiwar left and black people. You
understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it
illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the
public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with
heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt
those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their
homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after
night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about
the drugs? Of course, we did."
US Protests Spur Calls for India to Wake Up to Anti-Dalit Discrimination
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/06/george-floyd-buried-houston-live-updates-200609131614305.html
Spurred on by US anti-racism protests, lower-caste Dalits have called on India to acknowledge centuries of oppression they have endured and recognise that "every life matters".
Dalits are at the bottom of India's ancient caste hierarchy, whose membership was determined at birth, and have historically faced violence, segregation and been barred from even having their shadows touch those of people from higher castes.
"We extend our solidarity because we feel them and we have faced discrimination ourselves," said Omprakash Mahato, president of the Birsa Ambedkar Phule Students Association, a Dalit organisation at Jawaharlal Nehru University.
But a Reuters examination of federal court records related to the charges, social media posts by some of the suspects and interviews with defense lawyers and prosecutors found mostly disorganized acts of violence by people who have few obvious connections to antifa or other left-wing groups.
...
Only one group was called out by name in a federal complaint: the so-called boogaloo movement, whose followers, according to prosecutors, believe in an impending civil war.
Hate group experts say boogaloo’s followers are largely an assortment of right-wing extremists. Prosecutors alleged three men affiliated with “the movement” plotted to set off explosives in Las Vegas in the hopes of touching off rioting before a protest.
If blacks, on average, are worse off than the average white in almost every category of well-being – health, income, education, jobs, and many others – this is chiefly because of an appallingly dysfunctional culture that is pervasive among the black lower classes and tends even to “percolate” upwards into the black middle classes.
This culture fosters and condones attitudes that lead to astronomical rates of out-of-wedlock births (more than 70 percent of black births are to unmarried women), millions of fathers who give little or no support to their children, high rates of crime and violence, high levels of drug abuse, a poor work ethic, very poor academic achievement.
Unless these aspects of the culture are reformed and healed, we may expect that great numbers of blacks will live in misery for the next few hundred years.
QuoteIf blacks, on average, are worse off than the average white in almost every category of well-being – health, income, education, jobs, and many others – this is chiefly because of an appallingly dysfunctional culture that is pervasive among the black lower classes and tends even to “percolate” upwards into the black middle classes.
This culture fosters and condones attitudes that lead to astronomical rates of out-of-wedlock births (more than 70 percent of black births are to unmarried women), millions of fathers who give little or no support to their children, high rates of crime and violence, high levels of drug abuse, a poor work ethic, very poor academic achievement.
Unless these aspects of the culture are reformed and healed, we may expect that great numbers of blacks will live in misery for the next few hundred years.
What does it mean when people say that all cops are bastards (ACAB)?
If it were an individual thing, you'd give them the benefit of the doubt, but it isn't; it's an institutional thing. the job itself is a bastard, therefore by carrying out the job, they are bastards. To take it to an extreme: there were no good members of the gestapo because there was no way to carry out the directives of the gestapo and to be a good person. it is the same with the american police state. Police do not exist to protect and serve, according to the US supreme court itself, but to dominate, control, and terrorize in order to maintain the interests of state and capital.
Who are the good cops then? The ones who either quit or are fired for refusing to do the job.
While the following list focuses on the US as a model police state, ALL cops in ALL countries are derivative from very similar violent traditions of modern policing, rooted in old totalitarian regimes, genocides, and slavery, if not the mere maintenance of authoritarian power structures through terrorism.
police shoot people twice as often as previously thought. Keep in mind that this was self-reported, so we have no way of knowing if these numbers speak to the actual number of shootings in the US. Many of these people are completely unarmed. Police kill far, far more people than terrorists in the US and have killed over a hundred people more than mass shooters did in 2019 that we are aware of. Mass shooters are easily tracked. Police killings are not. 1 2
Oh, and cops also killed more people in 2019 than school shooters did in all of US history.
And if they don't shoot you, they might just airstrike your block and burn your children alive.
They also shoot one dog every hour, every day. At the absolute least.
Once you're in jail, be prepared to sit there for weeks -or months or years. It's so bad that people constantly plead guilty just so they can get out. It's so bad and so common, in fact, that over a third of all exonerations come after an individual has pleaded guilty. So much for the right to a speedy trial, huh?
And getting arrested is easy - tens of thousands of people yearly, in fact, thanks to lowest bidder garbage that police departments use in order to test for illicit substances. Field drug tests are about as reliable as lie detector tests or horoscopes. They just don't work. They just don't.
Think you're safe if you just follow directions? Yeah, no. And if they don't just outright kill you, they could make their instructions so arcane and hard to follow that they'll kill you for not following them, and they'll usually get away with it. He got away with it, by the way. Surprise!
They'll prosecute you for even knowing about crimes cops have committed.
Think you're safe in your home? lmao nah. Not even your 7 year old is safe from getting her brains blown out. check out this horrifying megapost on no-knock raids
Being a taxi driver is literally more dangerous than being a cop.
cops are more of a danger to themselves than anyone else is to them
they've admitted to stealing as much -or recently more- than burglars through "asset forfeiture," and the rate of their thefts has been climbing yearly. Keep in mind, these numbers only articulate what's been reported. It's probable that they've stolen far more than just this.
police are literally allowed to rape people on the job in 35 states, as they have the power to determine whether or not you consented to sex with them while in their custody.
up to 50% of the people police murder are disabled
the police are being trained to kill as if they're an occupying army and we're an insurgency. this is an inevitability, as the military-industrial complex needs to keep expanding into new markets.
Eugenics was still alive and well in the prison-industrial complex up until very recently, and could very well be continuing for all we know, as it was forcibly sterilizing inmates as late as 2010. I honestly don't see a reason to believe it's stopped.
The US surveillance state is massive (and while this post primarily focuses on the US, other countries are just as bad), though much of our surveillance is privatized. This doesn't stop the police from partnering with private companies, however. This will only get worse as time goes on. Also, we can't forget about the Patriot Act and Snowden's PRISM leaks.
the police, as an institution, are so completely steeped in violence, that up to 40% of them commit acts of domestic violence and other forms of domestic abuse. Most citizens are not even allowed to own firearms if found guilty of domestic violence, and these guys are expected to handle military-grade equipment.
Police exist to control and terrorize us, not serve and protect us. That's only their function if you happen to be rich and powerful.
also this: lol
the police as they are now haven't even existed for 200 years as an institution, and the modern police force was founded to control crowds and catch slaves, not to "serve and protect" -- unless you mean serving and protecting what people call "the 1%." They have a long history of controlling the working class by intimidating, harassing, assaulting, and even murdering strikers during labor disputes. This isn't a bug; it's a feature.
The justice system also loves to intimidate and outright assassinate civil rights leaders.
The police do not serve justice. The police serve the ruling classes, whether or not they themselves are aware of it. They make our communities far more dangerous places to live, but there are alternatives to the modern police state. There is a better way.
Further Reading:
(all links are to free versions of the texts found online - many curated from this source)
white nationalists court and infiltrate a significant number of Sheriff's departments nationwide
Kropotkin and a quick history of policing
Malcolm X Grassroots Movement. (2013). Let Your Motto Be Resistance: A Handbook on Organizing New Afrikan and Oppressed Communities for Self-Defense.
Rose City Copwatch. (2008). Alternatives to Police.
Williams, Kristian. (2011). “The other side of the COIN: counterinsurgency and community policing.” Interface 3(1).
Williams, Kristian. (2004). Our Enemies in Blue: Police and power in America. New York: Soft Skull Press.
Ramsey Orta filmed the killing of Eric Garner. The video traveled far, but it wouldn't get justice for his dead friend. Instead, the NYPD would exact their revenge through targeted harassment and eventually imprisonment — Orta's punishment for daring to show the world police brutality.
Noam Chomsky: This Uprising Is “Unprecedented” In US History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byDDANiLOTA
Cops aren't wearing their uniforms to
and from work right now because
they're afraid someone might attack
them or their families. Can you imagine
that? Living with a constant fear of
being killed by a complete stranger
because, to them, you look like a
threat?
OK wiki, we will sharpen the point.
How much more likely are you to be killed by a cop if you are black as opposed to white?
OK wiki, we will sharpen the point.
How much more likely are you to be killed by a cop if you are black as opposed to white?
Also, I always wondered...when these race riots happen, why do they always seem to happen in black neighborhoods? Why don't the rioters go over to white neighborhoods and riot these? Why do they destroy their own space?
I thought that this is about American racism, using a particular killing to "spark" the thread.
If the police are this pathological, how can we change that yet still keep the public safe from crime?
Also, I always wondered...when these race riots happen, why do they always seem to happen in black neighborhoods?
Why don't the rioters go over to white neighborhoods and riot these? Why do they destroy their own space?
Has any culture past or present been free of racism?Probably not. Fear and hatred of "others" probably predates Homo Sapiens. Certainly it can be seen in our close cousins, the chimpanzees, where war between tribes is common. Loyalty to the "in" group leads to clashes with those in the "out" group.
Could interbreeding erase color lines in future millennia?Probably not, with current attitudes. If you have three white grandparents and one black one, you're "black". Maybe one days things will look different, but I'm not holding my breath.
Has any culture past or present been free of racism? Maybe the San, nanning? Any other possibility?
Could interbreeding erase color lines in future millennia?
Has any culture past or present been free of racism? Maybe the San, nanning? Any other possibility?
....how can we change that yet still keep the public safe from crime?Don't hire white cops anymore? ::)
Has any culture past or present been free of racism? Maybe the San, nanning? Any other possibility?I think you need to watch this Jane Elliott experiment if you want to understand discrimination. We are all capable of it.
Blue eyes, brown eyes: What Jane Elliott's famous experiment says about race 50 years on
Elliot is best known as the teacher who, on April 5, 1968, the day after Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated, put her third-grade students through a bold exercise to teach them about racial prejudice. She divided the children, who were all white, by eye color, and then she told the children that people with brown eyes were smarter, faster and better than those with blue eyes. What happened next proved to Elliot that prejudice is a learned behavior. Which means, she says, it can be unlearned.
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/local/karinabland/2017/11/17/blue-eyes-brown-eyes-jane-elliotts-exercise-race-50-years-later/860287001
Tom may be making the common mistake here of confusing prejudice--which is everywhere and which probably humans could not function without some form of it--and systemic, or 'institutional' racism.
A short thought exercise my help clarify--if you were a Jew living under Hitler's Germany, you probably would have quite a few prejudices against many of their non-Jewish German neighbors. But I hope you can see, Tom, that the consequences of their prejudice is less dire than the systemic racism of German society at that time against them.
(Most activists use racism and systemic racism interchangeably, which can also be a problem. Racism, like so many things, is as complex as it is pervasive in much of modern society)
<snip>Racism is overtly intentional<snip>I really have to disagree with that. Racism is taught, mostly through culture, but these days also by watching TV. How else could you explain this?
@dyllyp
Elijah's last words were: "I'm an
introvert. I'm just different that's all. I'm
so sorry. I don't have a gun. I don't do
that stuff....All I was trying to do was
become better. I'll do it...You all are
phenomenal. You are beautiful. And I
love you. Try to forgive me. I'm sorry."Quote@TheSharkPunch
This was Elijah McClain.
He wore masks due to his anemia and Colorado
weather.
Someone called 911 on him and the police held
him down, beat him, and injected him with
ketamine.
He went into cardiac arrest and died.
Elijah liked to play his violin for stray cats to
calm them.
@blackwomenviews
Sooo.. .the cops completely fabricated
an assassination attempt but we are
supposed to take their word for it when
they say "I feared for my life" before
killing unarmed Black people?QuoteEric Boehlert @EricBoehlert
just updated my piece in the wake of the
stunning report today that the three officers at
the center of the 'poisoning" were never sick
and never even felt any symptoms.
@trilippacedgod
Remember Daniel Shaver? That 1
time a white dude got shot unarmed
while crawling towards a cop crying
'please don't shoot me I don't want to
die". That cop is still on the force in
the town I live 1 block from. Plus he
gets an untaxed 30k/year pension for
his PTSD from murdering.
But this piece suggests that corporate, old school dems, including Biden, may be in trouble this fall:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/24/letter-to-washington-grosse-pointe-woods-325641
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/23/suffocating-french-delivery-driver-cedric-chouviat-last-words-george-floyd-case (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/23/suffocating-french-delivery-driver-cedric-chouviat-last-words-george-floyd-case)I'm disgusted with all the hate creating messages on this thread. Do you really not understand what you are doing? Yes, it's all bad shit, but by posting this you're not digging down to the core of the problem. You're just helping to create more hatred and fear and division...
by Kim Willsher
Excerpts:
A French delivery driver who died after being arrested in Paris pleaded, “I’m suffocating” several times as police held him to the ground.
Footage has emerged of 42-year-old Cédric Chouviat saying he could not breathe seven times in 22 seconds as officers pinned him to the ground.
Four police officers are being questioned for “involuntary homicide” over the arrest near the Eiffel Tower in January that echoes the death of George Floyd in the US that has sparked worldwide protests and Black Lives Matter demonstrations.
Police said they stopped Chouviat on his scooter after claiming he was looking at his mobile phone and had a dirty licence plate. Officers say he was disrespectful and abusive and resisted arrest.
However, a report by the National Gendarmerie Institute for Criminal Research suggested the exchanges between the police and the delivery driver were “correct”, although officers may have felt he was being “provocative” or “defiant”.
According to witnesses quoted by Le Monde, the officers held Chouviat, a father of five, in a chokehold, a restraint technique that was banned by the interior minister, Christophe Castaner, this month, then reinstated after complaints from police.
I'm disgusted with all the hate creating messages on this thread.
Because you are doing exactly what MSNBC and Fucks news and so many others in power want us to do... Divide and conquer... And rob them blind while they are busy hating each other with all the shit that we are creating for them to divert attention from the real shit we are doing...I'm disgusted with all the hate creating messages on this thread.
I don't understand. This is happening! Why are we the hate creating ones by pointing out that it is indeed happening?
I'm disgusted with all the hate creating messages I see these days on public fora. Do people really not understand what we are doing with all this?
Yes, it's all bad shit what's happening with cop beatings and statues all that shit. But by posting these hate crimes you're not digging down to the core of the problem. You're just helping to create more hatred and fear and division...
Oh how they like us to be divided...
I AM A RACIST!!! I truly am..
I love Asian women, and I don't like black women...
I am also especially kind to people from other races because I want to show them - and everyone else - that I really am not a racist. I don't see people as equals. I was taught that I have to be careful and scared of "strangers".
Watch out for drug users!
There's more crime amongst people of a lower class...
And when you're not white, we don't call you American, or Belgian, or Chinese. No... we call you African American. An immigrant. A "new" Belgian... We never accept you for your personality... All we see is color and class...
I was raised a racist, and I will carry that burden for the rest of my life. But being a racist doesn't mean that I have to accept it and act on it. There are good racist that try to help people from other races, and you have bad racists that hate those who are different and smoke pot once in a while.
Being different is an asset. It's nothing to be afraid about...
Police reform appears to be dead in the senate.Laws can't change the world. It has to come from within...
The sticking points appear to be qualified immunity for cops, banning chokeholds and body camera requirements.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/senate-police-reform-bill/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/senate-police-reform-bill/index.html)
It's been my life to understand what ails the world. And what ails the world is fear...
Police reform appears to be dead in the senate.
The sticking points appear to be qualified immunity for cops, banning chokeholds and body camera requirements.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/senate-police-reform-bill/index.html
Phoenix wrote:QuotePolice reform appears to be dead in the senate.
The sticking points appear to be qualified immunity for cops, banning chokeholds and body camera requirements.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/politics/senate-police-reform-bill/index.html
I always found it a bit weird to put trust in body cameras. Requiring them already implies pretty much total lack of faith in the cops. Why keep around a work force you have no faith in?
And if you don't trust people so much that you have to record their every move, why do you think they won't find various ways around the camera thing, as many have in many instances?
To the extent that we continue with anything like a police force anywhere, qualified immunity has definitely got to end, or be vastly scaled back. You can't have an entire segment of the population that can, in the words of our fearless leader, shoot someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight and get away with it.
Power is corrupting. Cameras on cops are an intelligent check on abuse of power which is clearly all too common in the US. Without cameras, this thread and discussion wouldn't exist.Police are now starting to portray themselves as victims. If I thought people were going to tell lies about me, I'd be grateful for a camera on my chest which shows exactly what happened. Since they're not grateful, it's fairly clear that they don't really see themselves as victims.
Almost everything is recorded these days. The NSA has an archived record of everything I post on on the internet or buy with my bank card and a location history of my cell phone. Bank tellers work under security cameras. Why should cops be exempt?
I always found it a bit weird to put trust in body cameras. Requiring them already implies pretty much total lack of faith in the cops. Why keep around a work force you have no faith in?Perhaps because we lack any alternative, since we have only humans and not Vulcans to hire from?
Detroit police officer drives through a crowd of protesters, hitting the gas, stopping and speeding forward. Multiple injuries reported.
Link >> https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/hhuvv0/detroit_police_officer_drives_through_a_crowd_of/
... Detroit police chief says ...
The impact of his dead is getting pretty big. He died on the 25th. At that point the number of infections was going down. Than the protest started all over the US. And 2 weeks later the infection started to pick up. And now they are above 50 000 a day. And the protests are still going on. Even with a lockdown it will take 3 months to bring the numbers down to a few 1000 a day. By than it will already be freezing in the north. And i think they want be able to stop it in winter. That will bring it to may/june 2021. Europe had a few protests, but not that many. And so far there is no spike like in the US.
New York Mayor paints "Black Lives Matter" in front of Trump Tower.
This is like when your heat goes out and the maintenance crew sweeps your walk instead of doing what they were hired to do.
So much this:
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MINNEAPOLIS – A medical examiner’s finding that George Floyd had drugs in his system when he died is a “red herring” designed to draw attention away from the responsibility of a Minneapolis police officer who pressed his knee into Floyd’s neck for several minutes, even after he stopped moving, an attorney for Floyd’s family said Tuesday.
So many shootings right before an election... Coincidence?
The issue here is fentanyl.
Here's how the respected website, WebMD, describes the effects of fentanyl:
“[F]entanyl has rapid and potent effects on the brain and body, and even very small amounts can be extremely dangerous.
“It only takes a tiny amount of the drug to cause a deadly reaction,” ... “Fentanyl can depress breathing and lead to death. The risk of overdose is high with fentanyl.”
Here’s what the CDC says about fentanyl. “It is 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine.” https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/opioids/fentanyl.html
Of course George couldn’t breathe -- because fentanyl, mixed with methamphetamines, kills breathing. Despite the bad optics, “I can’t breathe” was not because of the officer’s knee.
Can anyone refute this (except by ad hominem)?
Who Killed George Floyd?
because what you posted might be very insulting and painful for the e.g. mother of George Floyd.nanning, did you stop to think that the posts on this thread might be "very insulting and painful" for people like, for example, JOSHUA T. MIKTARIAN's twelve year old daughter, whose father was killed when she was a baby because he made a traffic stop of an African American?
... Does anyone else have information on the incident wiki described, or any other similar incidents?
A new study confirms that black men and women are treated differently in the hands of law enforcement. They are more likely to be touched, handcuffed, pushed to the ground or pepper-sprayed by a police officer, even after accounting for how, where and when they encounter the police.
But when it comes to the most lethal form of force — police shootings — the study finds no racial bias.