Arctic Sea Ice : Forum
Cryosphere => Arctic sea ice => Topic started by: Espen on July 05, 2013, 03:04:48 PM
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Just for the fun of it, if you find some funny motives along your studies in the Arctic Region you can post them here, here is the first one I picked up today, it is called Birdie Namkheng
Namkheng (น้ำแข็ง) = Hard Water = Ice (Thai)
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"Funny" motive 1 can be found at my blog here:
http://theoldinsane.blogspot.se/2013/06/fv16-pac-man-2013-guestpost.html (http://theoldinsane.blogspot.se/2013/06/fv16-pac-man-2013-guestpost.html)
"Funny" motive 2 can be found here:
http://theoldinsane.blogspot.se/2013/07/fv17-two-species-close-to-extinction.html (http://theoldinsane.blogspot.se/2013/07/fv17-two-species-close-to-extinction.html)
I´m newbie on the Arctic "show" and I look at the development with enchantment mingled with terror. I do not have the skills to contribute, but I am grateful that this forum and Neven's blog exists. I learn new things every day from all of you.
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One of the Natural Beauties of Greenland Geikie Plateau and Dendritgletscher:
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And today we have the very rare Greenland Lynx:
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A mysterious shot of Jan Mayen Island:
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I love the photos Espen! keep them coming.
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Thanks DanP, I just want to reiterate that all are welcome to make their own contribution to Arctic Image of the day thread, the more the better!
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On the animal theme, here is a Greenland goat:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twanight.org%2FnewTWAN%2Fphotos%2F3003766.jpg&hash=33539d3d3d2327e6e9282cef01c8c4e2)
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I see a beautiful dragon head (looking toward the left)
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Your Lucky Day?
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I have been looking at those elaborate swirls off the east coast of Greenland for some time. What are they?
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Hello Helorime,
It is the last stage of sea ice melt.
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I have been looking at those elaborate swirls off the east coast of Greenland for some time. What are they?
It looks like a von Karman vortex street to me, see the link for a great animation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kármán_vortex_street (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kármán_vortex_street)
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fenvsci.rutgers.edu%2F%7Elintner%2Fimages%2FvonKarman_vortex.jpg&hash=c519517c55ba7db1749b2a33a77c1746)
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I was looking on Modis r05c04 on 11/7/2013 and thinking it's a clear image, then took the 250m resolution and saw it was something else. contrast to maximum and here's the result. the cloud field itself (imho, all stratocumulus undulatus) expands to the neighboring tile and is about 1000km*400km in size or about the size and shape of state of California.
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graphical art from NP 12.07.2013 (stiched 250m res images around NP) image area c. 445*445 km, contrast 100, brightness -90, so even a bit grey ice vanishes from the view. don't know what the 'black stripe' is.
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Laughing man
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From Dove and Jøkelbugt:
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We've all had days like this!!
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1269.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj597%2FOldLeatherNeck%2FGreenland0014_zps2f8acba6.jpg&hash=9fc072cfa68181b9ed73e6594fb86065)
Annual Greenlandic Dog Sled Races (1975)
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,127.0.html (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,127.0.html)
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Same procedure as last year and .......
The last sea ice of the season outside the Real Arctic Zone, Zaliv Akedemii / Akedemii Gulf Zaliv in the Sea of Othotsk.
Chince World Atlas: Akademii is a gulf in the region of Khabarovsk Krai, the country of Russia with an average elevation of -16 meter below sea level. The location is sparsely populated with 0 people per km2
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Is it my impression or did the sea ice persist very long there this year?
Here's one of the images in my collection:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6oP44Q5t-Gw/UeVB-m3uvcI/AAAAAAAAA3U/2aBYt7rxpuQ/s856/webcamart.jpg)
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We've all had days like this!!
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1269.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj597%2FOldLeatherNeck%2FGreenland0014_zps2f8acba6.jpg&hash=9fc072cfa68181b9ed73e6594fb86065)
Annual Greenlandic Dog Sled Races (1975)
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,127.0.html (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,127.0.html)
He probably wants to go at the front so that he gets a change of scenery!
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When did it escape from Loch Ness? :P (attached)
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I TOLD YOU!
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2FWEBCAM2%2FARCHIVE%2Fnpeo_cam2_20130720193122.jpg&hash=0633fddc2862930e367404c5287df521)
Credits to: Phil (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,427.msg10220.html#msg10220).
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The "tropical" Islands of Franz Josef:
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Just a reminder, we now reached the time of season when the algae farming is in progress:
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And there's one near Iceland as well:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-erz-IJT2WIk/Ue1MxOtispI/AAAAAAAAA4k/s2jFcWYjBpc/s400/bloomicelandjuly2013.jpg)
Beautiful, absolutely stunning. I use them as desktop backgrounds.
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Check this one out! :D
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2FWEBCAM2%2FARCHIVE%2Fnpeo_cam2_20130722192515.jpg&hash=c9c7711870766652e0451237476ff4be)
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Check this one out! :D
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2FWEBCAM2%2FARCHIVE%2Fnpeo_cam2_20130722192515.jpg&hash=c9c7711870766652e0451237476ff4be)
I belive it is the infamous Birdie Namkheng, look at post at the top!
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And here we have the Icy Jellyfish from Hudson Bay:
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And here is the amazing east coast of Greenland:
Please click on image to enlarge!
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Must be some kind of a dope party taking place in Siberia: 8)
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Greenland from the air.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2013%2F07%2F27%2Farticle-2379989-1B02602E000005DC-629_964x522.jpg&hash=299d4b32d36cb460acba286a35a0ac52)
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NIce pick Pikaia.
The Heat is on, open the windows please!
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Another image of Jan Mayen Island, notice that mustage like cloud formation.
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Siberian wildfires, from today's arctic mosaic. False-color shows smoke as rust-color.
Hat-tip to Artful Dodger for predicting another fierce summer of Siberian fires.
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A massive algae blum ?
On the left Swalbard, on the right Scandinavia !
It is at least 800 km in lengh and 300 km wide ! ouahou !!!
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-QvY-NnY2Sik%2FUfaqNSITAwI%2FAAAAAAAACyc%2F7-Y2MN2oPlE%2Fs640%2FBreathingEarth.gif&hash=da55868e1279b619fbca5f51f503e5be)
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Siberian wildfires, from today's arctic mosaic. False-color shows smoke as rust-color.
Hat-tip to Artful Dodger for predicting another fierce summer of Siberian fires.
Hi Steve,
Even in visible wavelengths, the smoke is clearly visible. If anything, I think the extent of this year's Siberian fires is greater than last year. Then there's James Bay... :P
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Lodger,
I agree. I check the mosaic image daily, and I don't recall any of last year's images looking so depressingly smoky.
Though last year, I think the worst of the fires was earlier, so soot may have affected melting more last year.
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Want some marshmallow?
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Want some marshmallow?
Tell me... That loop in the North Atlantic crosses 55 degrees of latitude, doesn't it....
Break in the Farrell and Arctic cell circulation?
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Yes that nice loop and the rest of the jet stream completely shattered !
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MODIS/ASTER image from July 12th, from a frame in the Beaufort sea maybe 200 km north of the Alaskan coast. Cropped image is full-resolution, 15m/pixel; full image is an overview of the 60x90km frame.
ASTER has a narrow field of view and thus doesn't have full coverage of the Earth like Terra/Aqua. In addition, free data access is pretty restrictive except for the US & territories, where level 1B data is fully open. [EDIT: I realized that was confusing. Data taken over the US & territories (apparently extending out at least a little into the waters around Alaska) is fully open-access to anyone in the world. Other data you have to pay for, or else you have to jump through a bunch of hoops before you get it.]
This is one of a swath of 5 frames, the only set since July 1st in open access and within the Arctic. Converted from hdf using GDAL and then some gimp to combine, etc.
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Wow, one wonders how long it takes for that kind of ice to disappear.
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The take-home message I get from that is just how heterogeneous sea ice is. Each one of those crazy white lines represents a ridge, which can be up to ten times the thickness of the flat grey/brown areas in between. ~50% of the entire Arctic ice volume is in the ridges. Eyeballing that picture, however good the resolution, isn't going to tell us that much about how much ice is actually there. I guess this is why the ice models used in PIPS (and PIOMAS etc) model ice as a statistical distribution within each pixel, rather than a single value per pixel.
As for your question, it would help if we had even one more picture from the same satellite to compare! Danp, where did you get it? Are there any pictures available for previous years, where the subsequent melt behaviour is known?
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The take-home message I get from that is just how heterogeneous sea ice is. Each one of those crazy white lines represents a ridge, which can be up to ten times the thickness of the flat grey/brown areas in between. ~50% of the entire Arctic ice volume is in the ridges. Eyeballing that picture, however good the resolution, isn't going to tell us that much about how much ice is actually there. I guess this is why the ice models used in PIPS (and PIOMAS etc) model ice as a statistical distribution within each pixel, rather than a single value per pixel.
As for your question, it would help if we had even one more picture from the same satellite to compare! Danp, where did you get it? Are there any pictures available for previous years, where the subsequent melt behaviour is known?
I totally agree. It was eye-opening to see the crazy map of features at this detail level. It may be asking a little much of this data source to find truly comparable images, but because of the built-in geographic restriction, if we can find any, they will at least be from nearly the same area of the southern Beaufort. I only just decided to go digging.
The public data is available from REVERB (also one of my main sources for Terra/Aqua data), via geographic search. Here's the search I did to find this data:
http://tinyurl.com/kyerueu (http://tinyurl.com/kyerueu)
The dataset is "L1B Registered Radiance at the sensor" (not the expedited equivalent). The visible/near IR bands within the hdf file are 1, 2, 3N, 3B. I used 3N, 2, 1 as RGB, but you don't gain much over just a grayscale image from ch. 1, which is in the green. (3B is an offset backward-looking channel for stereoscopic images).
I just repeated the search (July 1-31) as a repeated annual search since 2000 and came up with 358 results, including the 5 from this year (2 of which are right at the shoreline or just inland). So it does look like it might be a plausible project to compare ice at the southern edge of the Beaufort year-to-year in this fashion.
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northpole hole with scale. 03.08.2013
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O-Buoy 7:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fairfaxclimatewatch.com%2Fimages%2Fdo_not_delete%2Fpolar%2520bear%2520640.png&hash=8090b864bf0b3efa5930cd0f7d7facaa)
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Hah! well spotted!
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No way!! ;D
What a great photo!
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O-Buoy 7[/img]
Awesome :)
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Brilliant - well spotted
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2013B got taken down by a polar bear
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2F9.jpg&hash=15419b7cf3c90ac993197ef64038fd60)
See the footprints in the previous image?
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2F8.jpg&hash=a23f5f2c8eb7f66ec012931e593649e4)
:) :) :) :)
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jai,
If you take the image link from the archive rather than the gallery, they will not change from day to day.
V
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This image of course doesn't show some tropical islands (which you may recognize by the slushy ice surrounding them ;)), but rather pictures the northeastern part of Foxe Basin with Prince Charles Island in the middle. No wonder this region is rich in wildlife, it seems to be quite a beautiful place...
Image Source: NASA Worldview (http://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?map=-1800000,-2540160,-831296,-1591936&products=baselayers,!MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor~overlays,!arctic_coastlines_3413&time=2013-08-07&switch=arctic)
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A couple of remarkable images. 'Before' and 'after':
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r02c03.2013120.terra (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r02c03.2013120.terra)
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r02c03.2013220.terra (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r02c03.2013220.terra)
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This image of course doesn't show some tropical islands (which you may recognize by the slushy ice surrounding them ;)), but rather pictures the northeastern part of Foxe Basin with Prince Charles Island in the middle. No wonder this region is rich in wildlife, it seems to be quite a beautiful place...
Image Source: NASA Worldview (http://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?map=-1800000,-2540160,-831296,-1591936&products=baselayers,!MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor~overlays,!arctic_coastlines_3413&time=2013-08-07&switch=arctic)
Is that old man winter south of Prince Charles Island?
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Are we seeing soot, or algae bloom in this ESS picture from August 8, 2013?
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sea ice graph reinterpreted "Dancing on the beast's nose":
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fairfaxclimatewatch.com%2Fimages%2Fdo_not_delete%2Fdancing%2520on%2520the%2520beasts%2520nose.png&hash=14f50080a7aa5b4238ac72d8a6e14f28)
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I think any soot should be mostly invisible once in the water...although it could in theory trigger an algae bloom:
"During the initial firestorm, phosphorus and nitrogen levels increased 5- to 60-fold above background levels resulting from aerial deposition from smoke and ash. Nutrients returned to background concentrations within several weeks after the fire." http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/boise/research/fisheries/fire/FAE%20Papers/spencer_final.pdf (http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/boise/research/fisheries/fire/FAE%20Papers/spencer_final.pdf)
Nitrogen and phosphorus especially are critical elements for the algae. Carbon is too for that matter.
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficefloe.net%2FAloftcon_Photos%2Falbums%2F2013%2F20130811-1401.jpeg&hash=64fadbd0219bd47e335094bcf5c1729a)
USCGC Healy heading north toward the setting sun!
V
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Nice! AMSR2 gives the pack edge there as 75° N. If there aren't any more detours, they should reach it tomorrow. It'll be nice to get a real look at the ice.
-Dan
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I've been playing with the image processing software using the maps provided by Wipneus attempting to locate fastest melt-areas. Here's one try that might actually be pretty close. Too bad I don't anymore remember the steps... 09082013 and 10082013 (rescale, difference, multiply, black and white, inverse what not.) three layers had to be used to get the island showing again properly. Nice to see some individual floes in there.
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I've been playing with the image processing software using the maps provided by Wipneus attempting to locate fastest melt-areas. Here's one try that might actually be pretty close. Too bad I don't anymore remember the steps... 09082013 and 10082013 (rescale, difference, multiply, black and white, inverse what not.) three layers had to be used to get the island showing again properly. Nice to see some individual floes in there.
I am not sure that you are aware that I provided png's in https://sites.google.com/site/apamsr2/home/pngcby32 (https://sites.google.com/site/apamsr2/home/pngcby32). They are there, intended the users (in particular A-Team on the ASIB), that like to play withstudy the images but don't want to process the NetCDF files themselves.
Ice concentration 0-100% corresponds to 0-255 in the image files.
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I am not sure that you are aware that I provided png's in https://sites.google.com/site/apamsr2/home/pngcby32. They are there, intended the users (in particular A-Team on the ASIB), that like to play withstudy the images but don't want to process the NetCDF files themselves.
Ice concentration 0-100% corresponds to 0-255 in the image files.
Oh, thanks! I wasn't aware of those! Very cool maps.
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Sorry for not being able to post the direct picture, but it looks like the melt pond has reformed extremely rapidly. I had no idea these could develop literally over night. (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2F18.jpg&hash=cb7a31f80bda8e6bc542c2501654d038)
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Huh? No pond there or on any of the recent archive pics. Quite the opposite: snow is accumulating.
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Hi pearscot,
The image you posted is a live link, which is recycled about every 24 hrs. It (much like the sea ice) is ephemeral, and will not last. ;)
If you wish to link to the images on the PSC website, you need to post the link to the permanent archive (http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northpole/NPEO2013/WEBCAM2/ARCHIVE/) (go the the very bottom for the latest images).
Did you mean to refer to this image? (taken Mon Aug 12 18:53:02 UTC)
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2FWEBCAM2%2FARCHIVE%2Fnpeo_cam2_20130812185248.jpg&hash=9e2d89c9cf1e23e7b44f8658a24b4b5a)
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Watson River / Greenland
Remember the floods in 2012?
http://www.dmi.dk/nyheder/arkiv/nyheder-2013/7/broen-over-watson-floden-et-aar-efter-alt-aander-igen-fred-og-idyl/ (http://www.dmi.dk/nyheder/arkiv/nyheder-2013/7/broen-over-watson-floden-et-aar-efter-alt-aander-igen-fred-og-idyl/)
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Okay, folks, you can drive your tractors and backhoes over the bridge now! ;D
What a difference! Last year was really insane.
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Okay, folks, you can drive your tractors and backhoes over the bridge now! ;D
What a difference! Last year was really insane.
Wait a few years........some day we will all look back at 2012 and think that it was just a "Wall in the Park".
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A glimpse of the North Pole today:
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It looks like cottage cheese ::)
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It looks like cottage cheese ::)
I'm not sure where but someone commented on the look of the ice across the CAB. They noted that the ice had generally large and dispersed rounded flows surrounded by mush (bergy bits, rotten ice etc.) They suggested this appearance over such a wide expanse was new.
Given the new, pronounced mobility of ice in the CAB, could the multiple cyclones (relatively mild as compared to GAC2012) have caused a significant mixing of the remaining MYI and FYI in the CAB? The larger rounded flows would be the remaining, relatively solid MYI, rounded by the enhanced wave action as the MYI was jostled about. The broken up ice would be the FYI that has been pulverized by the cyclones of 2013.
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It looks like cottage cheese ::)
I'm not sure where but someone commented on the look of the ice across the CAB. They noted that the ice had generally large and dispersed rounded flows surrounded by mush (bergy bits, rotten ice etc.) They suggested this appearance over such a wide expanse was new.
Given the new, pronounced mobility of ice in the CAB, could the multiple cyclones (relatively mild as compared to GAC2012) have caused a significant mixing of the remaining MYI and FYI in the CAB? The larger rounded flows would be the remaining, relatively solid MYI, rounded by the enhanced wave action as the MYI was jostled about. The broken up ice would be the FYI that has been pulverized by the cyclones of 2013.
I'd say there may be merit to your observation.
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I'm not sure where but someone commented on the look of the ice across the CAB. They noted that the ice had generally large and dispersed rounded flows surrounded by mush (bergy bits, rotten ice etc.) They suggested this appearance over such a wide expanse was new.
Yes, that would be Werther. He has tracked large individual floes with his Autocad technique over several seasons.
Just one note of caution on the use of terminology. A 'bergy bit (http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/e0010735)' is a remnant of an ice berg. Being fresh water ice, they are dramatically different than sea ice. Bergy bits mostly originate in Baffin Bay and are found in the NFLD sea and the N. Atlantic ocean.
Now that the great ice shelves on the North edge of the CAA have disappeared, there are almost no bergy bits deposited into the Central Arctic Basin.
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The North Pole showed up as a bathtub full of floating cottage cheese, but the MYI north of Greenland was visible on EOSDIS for the first time in a long time yesterday, and to me that area looks just as spectaculair, it's shattered:
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The North Pole showed up as a bathtub full of floating cottage cheese, but the MYI north of Greenland was visible on EOSDIS for the first time in a long time yesterday, and to me that area looks just as spectaculair, it's shattered:
How large are the flows? Isn't it normal for stress fractures to occur in the ice?
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SH,
I'm really a newby Pole watcher (2nd year) so I don't know what normal is. And I know stress fractures in ice only from skating (i'm Dutch): your skate-blade fits in one. The fracture in the middle of the image is 80-100km kilometers long, and more than a kilometer wide. It triggered my interest, because I thought that the thick multi year ice would sort of remain a solid mass, but apparently not, learning something new every day.
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Lars,
Welcome to the forum. Be sure and familiarize yourself with the data and image resources. A lot of them can be found at Neven's ASIG;
https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/
The sea ice always cracked up and moving. More so in summer than winter. The permanent ice shelves are in rapid retreat.
Vergent
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from a fresh Aqua/MODIS image
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Yes! Nordostrundingen upside down ;)
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SH,
I'm really a newby Pole watcher (2nd year) so I don't know what normal is. And I know stress fractures in ice only from skating (i'm Dutch): your skate-blade fits in one. The fracture in the middle of the image is 80-100km kilometers long, and more than a kilometer wide. It triggered my interest, because I thought that the thick multi year ice would sort of remain a solid mass, but apparently not, learning something new every day.
I am a newbie as well, been visiting here for a little over a year. I tend to post questions when I post because I am clear that most here know more than me.
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What is this? An extraterrestrial insect or spacecrap or?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o8fCJ06VahM/UhUsSQ6gDMI/AAAAAAAAA-8/Rk6QbwJEi20/s325/image001.png)
I found it at http://www.arctic.io/split-zoom/ (http://www.arctic.io/split-zoom/) (aug 21) with max zoom and my browser at 200 %.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UqXyOHYN9G4/UhUsSb9wGiI/AAAAAAAAA_A/W8VObA47ecs/s848/image004.jpg)
I think anyone could find it, but you have to zoom in a lot to see it.
Found it also on august 19th to SSE and august 18th to SSW and august 17th to NNW.
Any ideas?
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theoldinsane,
Hi, I do see them often, and when you use that link you provided above you also find them on the ice sheet to the left, I believe it is a digital error often seen in the jpg.file format.
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theoldinsane, that reminds me on artifacts I see quite often, for example August 10, 2013.
NASA Worldview cropped sample (attached) shows 3 of them.
A markers or artifacts of processing, my opinion.
(I see, Espen was faster)
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Very likely it was a small section of a linear seam between two adjacent swaths that were stitched to make the mosaic. Then the jpg compression produced the extra noise as Espen said.
When I produce mosaics there are usually small sections of 1-2 pixel seams that result from choices the reprojection software makes about where to place border pixels, and I have to intentionally remove them by filling with average neighbor values. You can still see remnants of them on my 8-day composites because I use a light hand on the filling procedure so that larger data dropouts aren't obscured.
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Espen, ivica , danp
Ok, maybe so. But do you have any proof that those things not are extraterrestrial insects? ;)
Remember that NASA didn´t found the ozone hole because they dismissed some of the data they recieved from satellite observations. The ozone hole was found by an amateurish observer on the ground.
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I think what we've been seeing is discarded chariot whips used by Helios on this daily ride. All the views we have are from satellites that follow the Sun quite closely so these are being found close to his path. Hopefully the steeds wear diapers.
Terry
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The original image lacks the contrast to go from black to white in one pixel. Therefore it must be an artifact of image processing, and alas not a godly artifact.
Vergent
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It looks like stairs to me.
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theoldinsane,
Hi, I do see them often, and when you use that link you provided above you also find them on the ice sheet to the left, I believe it is a digital error often seen in the jpg.file format.
Likewise, I bet on it being a media artifact. Sorry, alien insects are all off eating purple weeds on Adelbaran.
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theoldinsane,
Hi, I do see them often, and when you use that link you provided above you also find them on the ice sheet to the left, I believe it is a digital error often seen in the jpg.file format.
Likewise, I bet on it being a media artifact. Sorry, alien insects are all off eating purple weeds on Adelbaran.
Thanks for sending them. Now I don't have to weed my garden!
Sincerely,
Plaxbog Balgor, Adelbaran
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Espen, ivica , danp
Ok, maybe so. But do you have any proof that those things not are extraterrestrial insects? ;)
Remember that NASA didn´t found the ozone hole because they dismissed some of the data they recieved from satellite observations. The ozone hole was found by an amateurish observer on the ground.
Farman was no amateur, he was a very meticulous scientist who compiled a long series of measurements which enabled him to discover the 'hole', while working for the British Antarctic Survey.
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Just in from Chile: Rare snow falls in Atacama desert of Chile :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoBiurKODkM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoBiurKODkM)
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTzcpYzS.jpg&hash=51fe813b297e8dc19daf23e4a725793e)
Don't know if he's heading to the arctic, but it is my picture of the day.
Vergent
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There's a new shipping route opening shortly, here's a map, due to the nature of the area the route is drawn only approximately. Note that the route maybe used by those ships only that are class I in the durability classification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_class)) since the route might contain some ice.
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Oh ha ha. Shipping routes! ::)
Sovcomflot GUARANTEES passage through the Northern Sea Route for 6 months per year now.
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Sovcomflot GUARANTEES passage through the Northern Sea Route for 6 months per year now.
dear Lodger, I meant unassisted! :-P
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Found this turquoise, on my way:
Please click on image to enlarge.
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Yes, that's about too beautiful to confine Andres Breivik. :-|
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A nice video about naming storms:
Please click at point below (�n).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efAUCG9oTb8#t=125 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efAUCG9oTb8#t=125)
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Quite liking this intriguing hole in the clouds today
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Quite liking this intriguing hole in the clouds today
[Raises skeptical eyebrow]
Lance-Modis frame and date?
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Nice!
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Quite liking this intriguing hole in the clouds today
[Raises skeptical eyebrow]
Lance-Modis frame and date?
Find it here:
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r05c03.2013246.terra.250m
(http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r05c03.2013246.terra.250m)
Bottom right corner.
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It seems real, see the rounded shape of the shadow border over the ice.
Maybe an air jet through the clouds did that? But what caused the jet??
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These 'punch' holes are normally caused by military A/C during rapid ascent - tho there may be something else going on here that I have not come across before.
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You beat me to it! *note to self- must come to the forum more often
As well as the Punch hole there are 2 intriguing small vortices nearby. They are odd because of their size. A person standing under the smaller vortex would have seen a cloud spiral above him/her. Is this normal in the Arctic?
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You beat me to it! *note to self- must come to the forum more often
As well as the Punch hole there are 2 intriguing small vortices nearby. They are odd because of their size. A person standing under the smaller vortex would have seen a cloud spiral above him/her. Is this normal in the Arctic?
That is just weird. The hole is entirely to regular, and looks to be tens of KM wide. There is a visible spiral curling into it if you look closely. I wish I could see the winds. The only analog I come up with is the eye of a storm... I think it is far too large and regular for a MA punch hole.
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Possibly caused by a meteor strike. There is what looks like the shadow of a contrail nearby.
Vergent
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I find it really hard to work out where land and islands are on these plots. But above* the hole is what looks like a Von Karman vortex chain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_vortex_street (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_vortex_street)
Taking image saturation right up in 367 bands shows what looks like an open vortex (one swirl above the hole) covered by thin higher cloud.
I suspect it's due to turbulence from a Von Karman chain (which apparently is called a 'street') due to the New Siberian Islands. Someone with better knowledge of the geography of these grid boxes will be able to correct me if those islands are in totally the wrong place.
* by 'above' I mean scroll upwards from the hole.
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Fairly sure I'm right now.
From WetterZentrale:
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsavnnh.html (http://www.wetterzentrale.de/topkarten/fsavnnh.html)
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3787%2F9672250281_b40ca45267_o.png&hash=1891c30e85409f23cb0b0e5f3a0ab384)
High and low pressure form a dipole flow, the day before isobars constricted over the islands, the dipole flow has carried the turbulent air into that region.
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Possibly caused by a meteor strike. There is what looks like the shadow of a contrail nearby.
Vergent
Meteorites are around, one passed above my location a hour ago.
How large meteorite should be to make such a hole of several km in diameter ?
Too big to pass unnoticed by astronomers I guess.
Chris's idea seems more likely to me.
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Spectacular image! And a very nice explanation, Chris.
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Possibly caused by a meteor strike. There is what looks like the shadow of a contrail nearby.
Vergent
Meteorites are around, one passed above my location a hour ago.
How large meteorite should be to make such a hole of several km in diameter ?
Too big to pass unnoticed by astronomers I guess.
Chris's idea seems more likely to me.
It would be the supersonic shock wave, not the meteor itself. But, there is a better explination. it is a fallstreak hole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallstreak_hole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallstreak_hole)
They can be caused by ice crystals from the contrail of a passing airplane. Its kind of a chain reaction caused by the latent heat of freezing evaporating condensed water.
Vergent
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I didn't really understand your karman vortices explanation, Chris, but I just found this picture of cloud "punch holes". Wow
http://goo.gl/xeiBWG (http://goo.gl/xeiBWG)
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Our PII-2012 is now released, into the wild world down south:
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I didn't really understand your karman vortices explanation, Chris, but I just found this picture of cloud "punch holes". Wow
http://goo.gl/xeiBWG (http://goo.gl/xeiBWG)
If the air flow is across a flat surface (like the ocean) it flows straight. Put an island in the way and the wind 'whips' around the island which creates turbulence in the atmosphere downstream o
of the island. Those punch holes are exactly what I think the hole we saw in the MODIS images was.
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section of the Greenland today cumulative meltdays map until Sept-8th (NSDIC/Thomas Mote/University of Georgia), tried to make the scale all red, but aha, the original scale shows in the edges of the tetris blocks.
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section of the Greenland today cumulative meltdays map until Sept-8th (NSDIC/Thomas Mote/University of Georgia), tried to make the scale all red, but aha, the original scale shows in the edges of the tetris blocks.
Actually... It kinda works...
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section of the Greenland today cumulative meltdays map until Sept-8th (NSDIC/Thomas Mote/University of Georgia), tried to make the scale all red, but aha, the original scale shows in the edges of the tetris blocks.
Could you show northeast Greenland where a lot of interesting fast ice activity is occurring?
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Could you show northeast Greenland where a lot of interesting fast ice activity is occurring?
Sorry, didn't save the whole image.
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Could you show northeast Greenland where a lot of interesting fast ice activity is occurring?
Sorry, didn't save the whole image.
I think if you snoop through Lance Modis looking for cloud free images, you'll find there is precious little fast ice left. A few samples:
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013249.terra.1km (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013249.terra.1km)
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013252.terra.1km (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013252.terra.1km)
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013252.terra.367.250m.jpg&vectors=coast (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013252.terra.367.250m.jpg&vectors=coast)
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Could you show northeast Greenland where a lot of interesting fast ice activity is occurring?
Sorry, didn't save the whole image.
I think if you snoop through Lance Modis looking for cloud free images, you'll find there is precious little fast ice left. A few samples:
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013249.terra.1km (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013249.terra.1km)
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013252.terra.1km (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013252.terra.1km)
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013252.terra.367.250m.jpg&vectors=coast (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r03c03.2013252.terra.367.250m.jpg&vectors=coast)
jdallen..........I've been following your many posts this summer on the loss of fast ice. I was just curious what the land melt looked like in this area of Greenland as well. Does it show an increasing number of days of land melt?
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Here you go (original by NSDIC/Thomas Mote/University of Georgia), apparently the daily map has dark squares that are not on the scale, I'll presume these would be the squares having most melt days.
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Here you go, apparently the daily map has dark squares that are not on the scale, I'll presume these would be the squares having most melt days.
Thanks.
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1st post from long time lurker - NSIDC closed
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NSIDC closed
It was closed yesterday also. For more on the reasons why, including an animated "atmospheric river", see:
http://econnexus.org/biblical-floods-in-boulder-close-nsidc/ (http://econnexus.org/biblical-floods-in-boulder-close-nsidc/)
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Winter is coming to Kimmirut:
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Some Central Arctic Art (http://greatwhitecon.info/2013/09/central-arctic-art/):
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A ship near the NP2? Or what is that?
(Click the image for a larger version)
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2FWEBCAM2%2FARCHIVE%2Fnpeo_cam2_20130921053511.jpg&hash=c21fd24fc0190710d04fc97642fa6129) (http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northpole/NPEO2013/WEBCAM2/ARCHIVE/npeo_cam2_20130921053511.jpg)
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A ship near the NP2? Or what is that?
It looks a lot like an icebreaker to me!
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It appears to have a whole lot of jagged features, like roots.
My guess is that a polar bear has dragged a tree stump into the Arctic and placed it in front of the cam... :o
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A ten minute span between images and it hasn't moved a jot...
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2FWEBCAM2%2FARCHIVE%2Fnpeo_cam2_20130921052510.jpg&hash=f94bd6dc609113e7cd8dd6541d309fbf)
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2013%2FWEBCAM2%2FARCHIVE%2Fnpeo_cam2_20130921053511.jpg&hash=c21fd24fc0190710d04fc97642fa6129)
Yep, presumably Jim is right and it is an ice breaker. Some ice blots on the lens appear to have partly disguised its profile.
Nice spot!
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I think it's Godzilla's head. ;)
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No more images since then. Perhaps Godzilla ate the cam?
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"Stars" over Scoresbysund, East Greenland:
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The Lena delta and thereabouts refreezing. Courtesy of Aqua via Worldview (https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?map=-93491.649418,1862261.756092,376268.350582,2128245.756092&products=baselayers,MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_Bands721~overlays,arctic_graticule_3413,arctic_coastlines_3413&time=2013-10-05&switch=arctic):
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A new island on the coast of Pakistan since the 25 september !
(2013 - CNES – Distribution Astrium Services / Spot Image)
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http://stratus.ssec.wisc.edu/products/rtpolarwinds/ (http://stratus.ssec.wisc.edu/products/rtpolarwinds/) day 285 most images stacked to get some view of the arctic. didn't bother to try to get the wind markers out, to honor republican shutdown of NASA sites and EPA.
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http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/ (http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/) might provide some images. I haven't registered yet though.
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg0.mxstatic.com%2Fconcours-photo%2Fl-image-du-geographe-adrian-luckmande-represente-une-modelisation-coloree-des-deplacements-des-glaces-de-kronebreen-un-glacier-d-arctique_60548_w460.jpg&hash=2c9cab9897dcfa0c39551c032dbd81fc)
Kronebreen, the fastest-flowing glacier on Spitsbergen, with radar images taken 11 days apart.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24511764 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-24511764)
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While not strictly only an arctic species, this might do as a response to "cycles" that are only statistically proven, they seem to have decided to gather here just before migration. "oh, geese". Branta leucopsis, Mare Balticum (11.10.2013) Shown possibly is also one B. ruficollis, but I didn't find it in here nor in the other two similarly sized flocks residing nearby.
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"The water bear" by Paul Souders (United States)
The fact that most of the pictures show the polar bear on land or on ice tells us more about the practical difficulties encountered by humans for the photograph on the behavior of the mammal. In fact, it spends a lot of time in the water and can swim for hours. To correct this bias, Paul Souders followed a three-day bear in Hudson Bay before capture its passage under the ice.
from (french) : http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/portfolio/2013/10/17/l-essence-des-elephants-meilleure-photo-animale-de-l-annee_3497282_3244.html (http://www.lemonde.fr/planete/portfolio/2013/10/17/l-essence-des-elephants-meilleure-photo-animale-de-l-annee_3497282_3244.html)
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Great image Laurent! ;)
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Can you give link to a most precise satellite arctic map?
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Can you give link to a most precise satellite arctic map?
Yesterday: http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic.2013301.terra.250m.jpg (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic.2013301.terra.250m.jpg)
HUGE FILE!
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Thanks a lot. One pixel is 250m?
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Thanks a lot. One pixel is 250m?
Yes. 500m, 1km, 2km, 4km works too.
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Is there a version which assembles cloud free images rather than images of a single day? I seem to remember seeing that posted.
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Andreas T "which assembles cloud free images ", those ones were done by a member of the site, assembling photos obtained during a week or so... Then there has been a Canadian site that does this too, I don't know it's status now when the Visual Spectrum channel in the north is pretty much obscured by the earth's shadow. those were (if I remember correctly) on 1km resolution.
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Is there a version which assembles cloud free images rather than images of a single day? I seem to remember seeing that posted.
See http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,440 (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,440) and http://www.arctic.io/clear-sky-zoom/ (http://www.arctic.io/clear-sky-zoom/)
Now all we need is the AVHRR equivalent!
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As it is Halloween, here is a scary radar image of the Icelandic volcano Eyjafjallajökull, erupting in 2010.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slate.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Fslate%2Fblogs%2Fbad_astronomy%2F2013%2F10%2F28%2FEyjafjallajokull_radar.jpg.CROP.promovar-mediumlarge.jpg&hash=7f7a95e16f491a7f0b18a616968580d9)
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Pikaia,
Nice to see a real image again in this thread, nice catch! ;)
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As discussed in the "NØIB (Norske Øer Ice Barrier)" thread, Landsat images are available in 15m resolution (panchromatic, or B&W visible color) and a number of 30m spectral bands.
I have combined the 30m visible color bands (Red,Green and Blue) with the 15m B&W image which produced a color image with 15m resolution. The result is (IMHO) spectacular, but unfortunately difficult to share as the full file size is about 740MB.
Attached is a part of the 79N glacier outlet, where the ice hits a small rock.
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Wipneus,
It is "almost" like being there, just fantastic´it is a paradigm shift, Image wise!! ;)
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Stunning Wipneus! Thanks.
Does Landsat by any chance cover as far north as September's "Polar Polynya"?
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Bravo again, Wipneus! That area drains so much of Greenland, I hardly believed it, when I first heard about it. Much of GIS heads that way according to what I've researched. It makes me wonder though, if so much ice is transported to the north in Greenland, could it build up in a way to shift the tides and start carrying the ice to the south? It's just a question to think about and not something to personally try to answer. The physics of ice tells me it will flow according to the route offering least resistance. What if that route switches directions at times based on various possible mechanism?
I need to get back and do some homework of that area. It was more important than I thought examining the glacier.
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Does Landsat by any chance cover as far north as September's "Polar Polynya"?
I don't know. It is my intention to document the method in the Developers Corner, but the first step would be to go to LandsatLook Viewer (http://landsatlook.usgs.gov/), learn how to use it and locate the cloudless image(s) that are of your interest.
For software I am using ImageMagick and the Gimp. Processing does require a PC that has at minumum a 64bit OS and 16GB RAM + infinite swap and disk space. I still have had two complete OS crashes during the experiments.
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The first step would be to go to LandsatLook Viewer (http://landsatlook.usgs.gov/), learn how to use it and locate the cloudless image(s) that are of your interest.
Thanks Wipneus. I can see the Vilkitsky Strait (https://vimeo.com/76514037), albeit not very clearly this year. I can even see Cape Fligely (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Fligely). Any further north seems to be just a big blank though :(
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A pity Jim, it seems you don't even get to the most northern tip of Greenland this way.
It is probably the satellite orbit:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flandsat.gsfc.nasa.gov%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F01%2Fwrs2.jpg&hash=83ed2299ee4e4ebae303ece8339379aa)
(google landsat maximum latitude)
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Jim and Wipneus,
Landsat only reaches to the top of Greenland (and just only).
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Guess what it is !
From a photographer called christian houge :
http://www.artistics.com/christian_houge (http://www.artistics.com/christian_houge)
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Seed vault.
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yep ! Monsanto, singenta, Bill gates...
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I was wondering about the fate of the "goats head".
An animation from Jaxa's AMSR2 RGB images composed from the 36V,36H and 18V bands shows that it has nor reappeared after the summer. As far as I can see the remnants are now clearly on the way to Fram Strait.
Because of size, it is on YouTube, let me see if that works.
The direct link is http://youtu.be/T6BjTgYjKho (http://youtu.be/T6BjTgYjKho)
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It's pretty clear to me the shattered remains are currently just WNW of Svalbard, motoring southward towards the gap at about 2 KM/hr.
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so not long before it's out and spreading in the North Atlantic.
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Not about ice, but still worth mentioning I think.
Nordic Nature Photographer of the Year also happens to be a professor in biology at the University of Tromsø. Dr. Audun Rikardsens research on salmon and arctic char has given us fascinating new insights like salmon diving to depths of 800 m and more off the west coast of Svalbard and arctic char heading into full salty sea-water at 2C. Stuff we didn't think was possible until Rikardsens team radio tagged a bunch of our finned friends ...
But his pictures ... oh man.
Have a look. (http://www.audunrikardsen.com)
One of my favorites, arctic char in midnight sun, Spitsbergen:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww6.clikpic.com%2Faudunrikardsen%2Fimages%2FSvalbardr%C3%B8ye_i_midnattsol_Audun_Rikardsenfor_HS.jpg&hash=4fcb041cf80e5485ec4fa3006aa2c22d)
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and what is arctic, one definition could be this is an area where the average temperature is below zero. A quick modification on the wikipedia map on average temperatures (using 1961-1990 as a baseline) produced here, the averages of below -31C left unmodified since these are only seen in Antarctica. In WMO, I think there was tendency to use later baselines (even 1981-2010 might be used), but this is where subzero areas were approximately 25 years ago.
Too bad f.e. the scale at http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/GlobalMaps/view.php?d1=MOD11C1_M_LSTDA (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/GlobalMaps/view.php?d1=MOD11C1_M_LSTDA) is totally screwed up (f.e. spanning 200px and 70 deg to get a neat 28,57 px/10degrees, and the colors do not match the map), but meteorologists probably know where to get the proper current averages. How are the ameteurs supposed to use these??
[deleted second image since the scale isn't equally spaced in color space]
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Too bad f.e. the scale at http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/GlobalMaps/view.php?d1=MOD11C1_M_LSTDA (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/GlobalMaps/view.php?d1=MOD11C1_M_LSTDA) is totally screwed up (f.e. spanning 200px and 70 deg to get a neat 28,57 px/10degrees, and the colors do not match the map),
I wonder, the NASA people at Earth Observatory do make efforts to effective use of colors in their images. See for instance the article series "subtleties of color", starting here (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/elegantfigures/2013/08/05/subtleties-of-color-part-1-of-6/)
And the image you linked to, are daytime temperatures, perhaps that is reason for unexpected colors?
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Happy New Year 2014:
Please click on image to enlarge!
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Very nice, Espen! :)
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Very nice, Espen! :)
Thank you Neven, and a Happy New Year to you and your family!!!!!! ;)
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Thank you Neven, and a Happy New Year to you and your family!!!!!! ;)
The same to you and yours, Espen.
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Belated Happy New Year from me too. A small mystery image from 2014:
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A weak attempt: Lena Delta?
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Another one from Sea of Okhotsk:
Please click on image to enlarge!
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IIRC, about this time of year last year, we were starting to notice how broken up the sea ice looked. How is it looking to folks now?
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The other day someone posted a radar image and there were a lot of cracks again in the Beaufort Sea, which is no wonder, as a huge high pressure area has been parked there for quite a while now.
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Hi Neven! all the best for 2014!
I tend to look at ;
http://www.woksat.info/wos.html (http://www.woksat.info/wos.html)
for my peeps at the Arctic over winter dark. you either get the larger glimpses of Greenland/svalbard etc but a daily pole to Africa snap which allows a look at the basin. Beaufort does look like a gaint has stepped on it though.
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Thanks. I'm just trying to put together how much we could expect the New Arctic to affect weather patterns even in the winter. I would expect that a much more 'porous' ice pack could be letting more heat out even in the depths of winter that could affect everything from the Warm Arctic Cold Continents (WACC) pattern to polar cyclones to the apparent merger of the polar and mid-latitude jet streams. I can't remember whether there is some standard way to measure the number of leads and cracks, or if that would be the whole story anyway.
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The mystery image was from the shore of Hudson Bay, the dark stripes in the frigid landscade are presumably creek valleys with higher vegetation.
The channels 3, 6 and 7 images from the lance-modis have different resolutions, this might be a reason that many of the images get striping when looked at in extreme detail. Here I tried to remove the striping by appyling a slight motion blur in two directions to the full resolution image of Labrador N.Cape, resolution 1km/px. Other adjustments were also made to keep details visible. Below a detail of the full image (res 250m/px) that shows this procedure wasn't perfect. Additionally, as many of the images are composed of several overpasses by the satellite, the direction of the motion blur applied will be variable.
[modified:] Oops, location is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Chidley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Chidley) not the Ungava peninsula which is the northest one here. [added an image of Hudson Bay coast to illustrate the striping between images from two overpasses]
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The mystery image was from the shore of Hudson Bay, the dark stripes in the frigid landscade are presumably creek valleys with higher vegetation.
Thanks, that was my second guess. ;)
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“Aurora over Saltfjellet” by Tommy Eliassen
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Fish traped by the ice in Norway (only -7,8°C)
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Wow, that's a big freezer!
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shallower lakes have frozen thickly enough for some wintry activities in southern Finland:
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The ocean around Tromsø (69 N) in the north of Norway has been teeming with herring over the last few years. This attracts other species, especially larger predators. After the herring-populations increased the humpback-whales started to make extended feeding-stops in the fjords on their way from the Arctic Ocean to their breeding grounds in the Carribbean.
They tend to leave around the middle of January, and I was lucky to get a last look at them waving goodbye, for now.
The first image was shot with a wide angle lens, just to give you an idea of how close they got. At the same time two packs of killer-whales kept a more respectful distance. We had four of these 15 meter long 30-ton giants playing and showing off around our small RIB, at times so close that we could have touched them. We most certainly could smell them ...
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Whit,
Takk for de flotte bildene ;)
Espen
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I lige måde, Espen :)
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We most certainly could smell them ...
So, how did they smell?
Sorry, just curious. :)
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So, how did they smell?
Sorry, just curious. :)
You smell their breath if you're downwind of them when they blow, and it's not really what you would expect from the scenery ... Imagine a really awkward moment in an elevator, amplified by a 30-ton herring-feeding machine ;)
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Or a Mama San in a tea house in old Hong Kong ;)
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Okay, enough. I'll pass, thank you. ;D
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Atlantic walrus off the coast of Greenland. From National Geographic photo of the day.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.nationalgeographic.com%2Fwpf%2Fmedia-live%2Fphotos%2F000%2F753%2Fcache%2Fatlantic-walrus-greenland-nicklen_75331_990x742.jpg&hash=40b406a364f62330f572ba7e5adb8e53)
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Sea ice today at St John's and surrounding areas (Newfoundland):
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.meteociel.fr%2Fim%2F8464%2FNL_Harbour_ekp6.jpg&hash=efbb1afead759fdc8fbb068ea7a15c6f)
Locally formed new ice?
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.meteociel.fr%2Fim%2F2082%2F20140211180000_WIS27ESD_0007512641_gxg3.gif&hash=3bfe87b44f283efbe36b2038c0210c95)
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Pictures from Franz-Josef Land. Not new, but scary anyway.
http://ru-abandoned.livejournal.com/1433930.html (http://ru-abandoned.livejournal.com/1433930.html)
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Something in Summit Camp. Sun?
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Sun is back (Eureka, Ellesmere Island):
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdiablobanquisa.files.wordpress.com%2F2014%2F02%2Feureka-20_02_2014.gif%3Fw%3D640&hash=44b51c1363ac09b293da9009656b20a4)
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Very nice, Diablo!
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Exit from the Bering Strait (2014-2-6).
In this Landsat 8 image the center the Big and Little Diomede Islands between the mainlands of Siberia and Alaska can be seen. And between Chukchi in the north and Bering Sea in the south.
The international date line separates these islands, giving them the alternative names Tomorrow and Yesterday Islands.
The ice in the Bering sea does not get much better going to the south.
(Click the attached image for the hi-res picture)
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Exit from the Bering Strait (2014-2-6).
In this Landsat 8 image the center the Big and Little Diomede Islands between the mainlands of Siberia and Alaska can be seen. And between Chukchi in the north and Bering Sea in the south.
The international date line separates these islands, giving them the alternative names Tomorrow and Yesterday Islands.
The ice in the Bering sea does not get much better going to the south.
(Click the attached image for the hi-res picture)
I would think portions of the Chukchi look similar as there are areas of low concentration showing on CT.
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Wrangel Island on this February 21 Landsat 8 image. Sun elevation is 8.8 degrees, so the image is not that brilliant yet.
North-East is cliffy Herald Island under a few clouds.
East of Wrangel is the Chukchi Sea. I wonder about the brownish color of some of the ice, looks kind of dirty
(click the image for the hi res picture, rescaled to 60m to keep the forum software happy)
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Wipneus,
I think the color difference is due to difference in ice thickness?
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Wipneus,
I think the color difference is due to difference in ice thickness?
That would be my guess. I think if we track the images back we would find the darker areas were recently opened leads which have since picked up a skin of new ice. Considering warmth and the return of sunlight, it may not get much past the pancake stage.
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Spotted this on the Arctic Sea Ice Graphs page.
Obviously a glitch for now, but could it be reality one day?
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Spotted this on the Arctic Sea Ice Graphs page.
Obviously a glitch for now, but could it be reality one day?
<laughs> Quite the glitch.
The globe isn't due to get that much warmer for several hundred million years, even with human meddling. Past about 300MY and the re-merging of continents in "Pangea-ultima", we'll for certain be back to a hothouse - albeit the final one - before the predicted extinction of Prokaryotic life in about 600MY or so, due to increased solar output and CO2 removal from the atmosphere by geologic processes.
Our problems of course, are a lot more immediate, and not as severe, thankfully ;)
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Hah, instant mega-PETM ::) , the values for tropics are too high for much complex life to exist. Maybe some annual plants can live there, spending these too hot days as seeds. If that comes to pass, all of the tropics is turned to carbon sinks and the only way to travel between hemispheres would be aerial or heavily airconditioned. One could assume this wouldn't effect the currents of air and water, but one would be wrong. Can't say if that's possible.
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Hah, instant mega-PETM ::) , the values for tropics are too high for much complex life to exist. Maybe some annual plants can live there, spending these too hot days as seeds. If that comes to pass, all of the tropics is turned to carbon sinks and the only way to travel between hemispheres would be aerial or heavily airconditioned. One could assume this wouldn't effect the currents of air and water, but one would be wrong. Can't say if that's possible.
Given time, plants might adapt. Extremeophiles definitely would, because there would be areas that would get WET. Insects, possibly. Vertebrates? Unlikely unless they were nocturnal. Some critters would survive at higher altitudes. Overall though, bad news.
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Barrow, north Alaska, February 26. In this Landsat 8 image, the little town is clearly visible with its east-west air strip, under a low sun (elevation 10.6 degrees).
The Chukchi Sea is full of slabs of broken ice. Probably quite thin due to the relatively high temperatures this winter.
(do click the image for a hi-res experience)
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The temperatures in the Beaufort Sea have not been overly warm this year. Attached is a chunk of hi-res. radar from N of Point Barrow showing some of the extensive area of Second-year ice that was created along the Alaskan coast this fall - large areas of First-year ice did not melt out due to the cold summer. These now second-year floes (technically Old Ice) are small in diam, but at least 25% thicker than the FY ice.
The attached ice chart shows VAST area of predominantly second-year ice (orange in the map) that was present at the end of melt season - a low melt season, with resulting low water temps and rapid ice growth.
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The temperatures in the Beaufort Sea have not been overly warm this year.
I respectfully beg to differ with you here... They've been 5-6C above normal, for the last 3 months...
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/rnl/sfctmpmer_90b.rnl.html (http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/map/images/rnl/sfctmpmer_90b.rnl.html)
... and the lions share of that is inflow heat from the North Pacific rather than radiative loss from the ocean. Given the end of melt season conditions last fall, with "average" refreeze season conditions, the ice would be in far better shape than it is currently.
Yes, there is a lot more 2nd year ice than this time in 2013. It is not a solid pack, and is whip-stitched together with poorer-than-average (by 50-60CM thinner, I'd wager) FYI which will not stand up well to the return of insolation next month.
We shall see in another 6 weeks.
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The ice across much of the Alaskan and Siberian coastal areas looks like it has already hit an ice machine. This is not the past pack ice.
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Barrow, north Alaska, February 26. In this Landsat 8 image, the little town is clearly visible with its east-west air strip, under a low sun (elevation 10.6 degrees).
The Chukchi Sea is full of slabs of broken ice. Probably quite thin due to the relatively high temperatures this winter.
(do click the image for a hi-res experience)
Wow, that's pretty amazing. Too bad they're no longer doing the Barrow break-up...
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looks like they need a Zamboni.
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North Baffin Bay, near Ellesmere island, first Landsat 8 Image here of the summer season (sun elevation 6.8 degrees). Almost teardrop shaped stripes of ice sludge in the open water between the sea ice floats.
Upper left in the land-fast ice some bigger icebergs (the largest has a side of about 1.5 km) are stuck, probably remnants of the PII-2012 iceberg. Smaller icebergs (less than 100m) can be seen all over the place.
(do click the picture for the hi-res image)
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Wipneus,
It more art than ice :)
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Wipneus,
In what (high) resolution can you supply the image?
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It is 15m as indicated in the caption (processed as described in the developer corner thread).
Full image (@18062x18122pixels) is 655 MBytes. Here is a reduced resolution version:
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http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-33.96,42.35,290 (http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-33.96,42.35,290)
Notice that winds are coming north from the tropics all the way up into the Arctic right now. What effect is this likely to have on sea ice in that region? Wasn't this a pattern that someone predicted a few days back as hitting about now? Was that Wipneus or Werther? Or someone else?
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Morning Wili,
It is what you could see coming even on the 26 Feb prognosis by ECMWF, this however, recalculated on 2 Mar:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1036.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa446%2Fhanver1%2FECMWF0203201496hours0603small_zps8aa2b391.jpg&hash=a7049f4bb606bbce437f6bced7db3953)
As you saw on Nullschool, it is actually panning out now. Maybe a tad repositioned, but nevertheless.
Interesting to see SIE and MODIS in the next couple of days.
Later on next week AO is turning positive, low level Low near the Pole, N winds around Svalbard again. Getting colder over the Pole also, pulling it all back out of Eurasia. So expect SIE to hover against a max in the next 10 days.
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Idunno asked about this on the ASI blog.
First Landsat 8 image from row 4, latitude high enough for the Zachariae ice stream. But this is Laptev, open water that has refrozen. See also this post (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,382.msg21111.html#msg21111)
The island on the left is Bolshevic Island, most southern of the Severnaya Zemlya islands. The strait between Bolshevic and the main land is part of the North East Passage.
(click attached image for best resolution)
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This morning's view from the Svalbard surfcam: (http://www.svein-nordahl.com/svalbard/webcam/webcam_LYB.php)
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Is that a polar bear in the lower right corner?
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Is that a polar bear in the lower right corner?
After close inspection of the original I don't think so Neven. I suspect the polar bears had all disappeared over the horizon on their jetskis, looking for some seals.
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Is that a polar bear in the lower right corner?
After close inspection of the original I don't think so Neven. I suspect the polar bears had all disappeared over the horizon on their jetskis, looking for some seals.
Funny ;D and sad. :'(
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Landsat 8 image of south-west part of Svalbard. "1" marks the landing strip of Svalbard Airport of Longyearbyen, administrative center of the islands. "2" marks Barentsburg, mostly inhabited by Russians and Ukrainians.
(click that picture for best resolution)
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Well, Wipneus, you don't mean to suggest any relations between people of Russian or Ukranian descent and 'bugged' places?
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Barentsbug -> Barentsburg
What a mistake to make, certainly not intentional.
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Spotted this on the Arctic Sea Ice Graphs page.
Obviously a glitch for now, but could it be reality one day?
No.
If it ever was, there wouldn't be anyone to post about it.
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Barentsburg from across the fjord, Mar 05. No ice at all, had to go all around the fjord. Not normal, according to the guide.
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Fram transport (image source Nasa Worldview-Aqua Modis).
Far on the left the ice is still fasted to Greenland, the ice on the highway moves south at about 23 km/day. I cannot be sure but the ice strings on the right seem to move north.
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Fram transport (image source Nasa Worldview-Aqua Modis).
Far on the left the ice is still fasted to Greenland, the ice on the highway moves south at about 23 km/day. I cannot be sure but the ice strings on the right seem to move north.
23KM/day sounds about right. Multiply by width of flow, and we have (holds up thumb and squints) somewhere between 5000-10000 Km2/day of older ice exiting the central arctic. Doesn't sound like much, but when you consider the end of season area and age, it looks more significant.
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Wipneus
In the past I've attributed the patterns shown particularly on the image from the 23d as evidence of the katabatic winds called piteraq in Greenland. They tend to follow deep canyons and can dislodge fast ice from the coast.
Terry
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Commenter icefest made (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,778.msg23184.html#msg23184) this image showing NH snow cover:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F7P9YS.jpg&hash=8a04d2aeec774089901f4694a8dd817b)
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Landsat 8 image of the sea north of Svalbard. The gap of open water has not been so narrow for a while, but the ice pack looks really dispersed. Some ice streamers in between, suggest a current east-west while the clouds are coming from the north.
(click that picture for the full size image)
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That's not ice... That's slush...
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r06c03.2014092.terra.1km (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r06c03.2014092.terra.1km)
Contrast - same location in 2010 (intervening data lost due to gross incompetence...)
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r06c03.2010092.terra.1km (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r06c03.2010092.terra.1km)
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Off topic, as this image is Antarctica, but this is to pretty/important to ignore. First images of Sentinel-1A is released, among this one:
Acquired on 13 April 2014 at 23:57 GMT (14 April at 01:57 CEST) by Sentinel-1A, this image shows a transect over the northern part of the Antarctica Peninsula. It was acquired in the satellite’s ‘strip map’ mode with a swath width of 80 km and in dual polarisation. The colours indicate how the land, ice and water reflect the radar signal differently.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.esa.int%2Fvar%2Fesa%2Fstorage%2Fimages%2Fesa_multimedia%2Fimages%2F2014%2F04%2Fantarctica_peninsula_from_sentinel-1a%2F14476587-2-eng-GB%2FAntarctica_Peninsula_from_Sentinel-1A.jpg&hash=c1823eb21266ac5d12edb5d0429484a2)
http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2014/04/Antarctica_Peninsula_from_Sentinel-1A (http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2014/04/Antarctica_Peninsula_from_Sentinel-1A)
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Wipneus, can you help interpret the image?
I can see glaciers in the bottom of the image, flowing into what must be sea ice in the bottom right.
Does that mean that the matte dark area immediately above is an ice cap?
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I have not found it yet icefest! Somewhere else I did read that in Sentinel radar images, water is dark, but here the glaciers seem to show otherwise.
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If I understand it correctly, the brightness of the image indicates how much of the radar is reflected back to the satellite, ie how smooth it is. Where the surface is smooth most of the signal will be reflected to the side, giving a dark image; where it is rough some of the signal will be scattered back to the satellite. Where the image is dark it could be due to calm water or it could be due to smooth ice.
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Here is my interpretation.
This is mostly based upon the direction of flow of the glaciers (purple with arrows pointing to calving front).
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F8c8Ab.png&hash=0dcf8b6deccc04a06b5c8c6beda3c0be)
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Sorry for double-posting.
I found the section of antarctic peninsula where the image (?) was taken.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F8c8RL.jpg&hash=b3a893aecb6af63b460aaaec94a52a9b)
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to get a more comfortable look on this, rotate 90 clockwise and squeeze height of the image...
I did some more adjusting (not optimized) (cut some blue, inverted part of the brightness range, adjusting contrast etc.)
Estimating from the map the resolution would seem to be ~150m/px, but of course there maybe even more detailed channels than this one, at least the height looks like being more accurate.
umm, looking at Lance/Modis images of the area, the area on right in the image might indeed be open sea, my adjustmets are probably off somewhat... happens though every now and then when not knowing what's been measured.
squeezing the image further gives more realistic height differences, but I've already lost too much detail for this to be good. great if this can see through clouds which are a major PITA in images from orbit.
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Remarkable sea ice free conditions along the Okhostk Coast / Sea:
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fapod.nasa.gov%2Fapod%2Fimage%2F1404%2Fvolcano_stefnisson_960.jpg&hash=2c3f4420e9d6b28b9db11b63a9511c1c)
Another image of the Eyjafjallajökull volcano, from NASA's Astronomical Picture of the Day.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html)
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Beautiful photo. I love having images of the awesome power of nature put me in my place.
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Swirling ice off the East coast of Greenland, October 2012.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov%2Fimages%2Fimagerecords%2F79000%2F79521%2Fgreenland_amo_2012291.jpg&hash=e33e4323351e8e10c387da96b17e41f0)
From NASA Earth Observatory:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=79521&eocn=image&eoci=related_image (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=79521&eocn=image&eoci=related_image)
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Jumping auroral dog over Alaska.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fapod.nasa.gov%2Fapod%2Fimage%2F1404%2Fauroradog_chumack_1800.jpg&hash=8c776fb553b171ecf5186fcf6a98c8c1)
From NASA's Astronomical Picture of the Day.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140429.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140429.html)
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The Sauna and Ice Pool service at Kap Jackson (Washington Land, North West Greenland) is now open for business:
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Nice detail, Espen, that bathtub always appears first in Nares' spring, doesn't it?
I liked todays trembling atmosphere in the wake of the De Long Islands, N of the Novosibirskye Ostrova:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1036.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa446%2Fhanver1%2FArctic%2520Ice%25202014%2FLMr05c04day12505052014Tremblingatmospheresmall_zps3857dd11.jpg&hash=8e150bbc2d8347195e484ed1a7fe9241)
Bennett Island always ripples best being 426 m high, but today Henrietta and Jeannette Islands joined through their 315 and 351 m rocky outcrops.
I wonder if the wide stress lead along the East Siberian Continental Plain plays a role. The southern winds crossing them pick up moisture over there (see the upper right corner). It condenses when the top of the boundary layer is lifted over these cliffs.
In that case, it is a sign of spring and anomalous moisture spreading over the sea ice...
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Jan Mayen:
Beerenberg the world's northernmost subaerial active volcano is here seen thru the clouds.
Please click on image to enlarge!
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A Harp seal in the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Not actually taken in the Arctic, but it could have been, so wth.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.nationalgeographic.com%2Fwpf%2Fmedia-live%2Fphotos%2F000%2F791%2Foverrides%2Fharp-seal-ice-madeleine-islands_79187_990x742.jpg&hash=7bf7e39d51a48584e4aa1b9b41b049b9)
http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/harp-seal-ice-madeleine-islands/ (http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/harp-seal-ice-madeleine-islands/)
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Detail of the McKenzie River delta as seen by Landsat 8 on May 10.
(click on the picture and be prepared for a 3M download)
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Wipneus.....interesting snow cover pattern (I'm assuming that's what I am seeing.).
Is this pattern caused by patches of open water in the delta, still covered with ice and snow, which are surrounded by less wet and perhaps vegetated areas?
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Wipneus.....interesting snow cover pattern (I'm assuming that's what I am seeing.).
Is this pattern caused by patches of open water in the delta, still covered with ice and snow, which are surrounded by less wet and perhaps vegetated areas?
Possbly that's frozen marshland, the more solid patches of ground have lost their snow...
Image is pretty though.
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A rare sighting, Bouvet Island the most remote island and controlled by Norway.
By the way it is the national day of Norway (May 17th):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouvet_Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouvet_Island)
93 % of the island is covered by a glacier, I wonder if Mauri covered this one?
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A well fed Polar Bear, from National Geographic Photo of the Day.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.nationalgeographic.com%2Fwpf%2Fmedia-live%2Fphotos%2F000%2F797%2Fcache%2Fpolar-bear-animal-rest_79795_990x742.jpg&hash=b3bfb0c11335afbb66d9dd08dec51758)
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A well fed Polar Bear, from National Geographic Photo of the Day.
Where did they find that? Did they have to drag one up from the archives?
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Just a warning.
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Lena river delta melting looks like a piece of art.
(click for a 5MB download)
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Lena river delta melting looks like a piece of art.
(click for a 5MB download)
It looks like false color lava flows to me, certainly beautiful.
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Awesome sculpture by Cordal in Berlin called "Politicians discussing global warming."
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The Ellesmere Shore lead crosses Nares Strait entrance, develops further cracks northwards
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First thing I noticed as well when the Lance Modis opened the "curtains" of today! Very massive scale, I Guess we can't blame a herd of Narewhales for this incident ;D. Will be extremely exicting to see if this cracking will continue and even more to observe if these openings will continue to grow and allow the sunrays to heat up the darker water in between the ice :).
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Ice in the port of Churchill is looking pretty rotten now. Shows up in the live camera feed.
http://www.omnitrax.com/media-center/portofchurchillcamerafeeds (http://www.omnitrax.com/media-center/portofchurchillcamerafeeds)
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The last remaining sea ice in the sea of Okhotsk for this season:
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What do you see here?
Well, what I see is a lake (the Laptev bite), with kind of the shape and possibly the size of the United Kingdom Island, in a place that we would not dreamed ten years ago. But the Arctic sea ice is OK. At 2014 we are far from reaching the 2012 record, so we have to wait until all the Arctic sea ice is gone, in order to believe that AGW is happening. Anyway, thanks to Global Warming, we have new maritime routes at the Arctic.
Yes, I am being sarcastic. Isn't this reality bad enough? We should wait until the permafrost will melt, releasing methane and CO2? In my opinion, this waiting time until we reach another record is a waste of time. There should be a special place on this forum with the name "We ought to..."
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http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=06&fd=09&fy=1990&sm=06&sd=09&sy=2014 (http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=06&fd=09&fy=1990&sm=06&sd=09&sy=2014)
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Thanks for the link, trebuh.
In a way, you show me I am right in my comment.
It is true that we had an important Laptev bite at 1990, but the sea ice at 1990 was strong, so it didn´t develop the way it is going to develop at 2014. On the other hand, if we check the other years, there was not an important Laptev bite until 2007 and 2012 (2009 has no data).
In a way, I am dissapointed that I asked for an action in this forum and some forum users answered that we should not have "we ought to..." proposals on this forum.
Surely I was not active enough. I should push harder.
Anyway, the true is that at 2013, the IPCC was critized for exagerating AWG, when my point of view is that it is the other way around.
What do you think? Do you agree that the IPCC models, as they are right now, are worthless? Would you like to make the effort to include a PIOMAS volume forecast on the USA Third Climate Assessment Report?
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contrast-enhanced MODIS-image of an arctic specialty, poorly defined mesoscale cyclone (weak 'polar low') inside an otherwise uniform cloud cover (or that's my interpretation). They do not usually produce significant worsening of weather conditions, if they're the same that pass Finland occasionally, rather you note thicker clouds and a slight increase in precipitation and winds, lasting at max some 15-30minutes, or these happening a couple of times during the snow event. ('tuisku' or 'tomakka' we might call the stronger ones in finland, the 4th worst type of snowstorms that some people still enjoy)
resolution 250m/px so the system size is just 75km :-)
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeder.gina.alaska.edu%2Fradar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images%2Fcurrent%2Fimage&hash=bb81d4cdeaa1e26f8f10e7e1648b7690)
Nice shot of the inshore ice at Barrow breaking up and drifting off-shore
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One of the great scenes of Greenland: The 5 Star:
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffeeder.gina.alaska.edu%2Fradar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images%2Fcurrent%2Fimage&hash=bb81d4cdeaa1e26f8f10e7e1648b7690)
Nice shot of the inshore ice at Barrow breaking up and drifting off-shore
Ice which is now GONE. (As of 2014.06.20)
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Photo by Andrei Ermolayev. More here:
http://www.adme.ru/illustration-and-photography/hochu-v-islandiyu-682755/682755-5352655/ (http://www.adme.ru/illustration-and-photography/hochu-v-islandiyu-682755/682755-5352655/)
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Forget image of the day. That one gets my vote for image of the year. Maybe the decade. Awesome.
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Here's some new melt ponds:
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/2014_06_22_04_17 (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/2014_06_22_04_17)
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ESA Sentinel-1 images Disco Bay on 7.6.2014 (misses Jakobshaven though for now):
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Wildfires near Great Bear Lake:
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The same as above but using the 7-2-1 bands on Aqua/MODIS:
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Great Bear Lake is the largest lake entirely in Canada, the fourth largest in North America, and the eighth largest in the world.
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Just what the AIS and Greenland need this year........lower albedo from wildfires..... :P
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Just what the AIS and Greenland need this year........lower albedo from wildfires..... :P
Wildfires must be a rather regular thing in the Arctic during summer.
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Just what the AIS and Greenland need this year........lower albedo from wildfires..... :P
Wildfires must be a rather regular thing in the Arctic during summer.
Localized, yes. generalized, and at this scale, no. This is a new phenomena, directly tied to increased high latitude heat and drying.
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Further breakup underway at Barrow
3582_radar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images_2014-6-25_1-day-animation.mp4
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Break up at Kimmirut:
http://www.kimmirutweather.com/ (http://www.kimmirutweather.com/)
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http://www.kimmirutweather.com/webcam.jpg (http://www.kimmirutweather.com/webcam.jpg)
what a difference in only a few hours ! And temps of 10.2'C ..
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what a difference in only a few hours ! And temps of 10.2'C ..
Wave "bye bye" to the Hudson and Baffin ice as it vanishes...
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This sequence in Nares is pretty extraordinary...
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Looking at that this morning, the thing that struck me was how quickly the shards of ice shrink as they are ejected to the south west - ice islands the size of Manhattan just vanish in a couple of days.
On a peripherally related note... I think maybe there's a flip side to the lack of Fram transport over the past few weeks. If the sun is shining on all that open NA/GS water, and there's no ice melt to cool it, is it just storing up heat which will either end up either migrating west under the ice - melting as it goes on the one hand, or causing rapid melt of future
eastward-migrating ice on the other?
Trying to think of a way that sunshine on open water doesn't store up trouble for later - but rolling a doughnut here...
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Anybody fancy a golf day in the Arctic?
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Not sure I'd want to risk losing the golf ball in all those water traps.
Break up at Kimmirut:
http://www.kimmirutweather.com/ (http://www.kimmirutweather.com/)
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The difference a few days make..
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Anybody fancy a golf day in the Arctic?
Hey Seattlerocks,
That's my mini-cyclone on this thread:
A detail that is of interest within the fog-low cloud discussion.
This 10 km diameter swirl is visible on MODIS today:
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Yours is from a later MODIS-run; diff probably 3-6 hours. The swirl made 60 km to the South and has lost it's vorticity. The 'contrail' is delusive; it doesn't emerge from the 'golfball'. Though it looks to be flowing North, the band seems related to the clearing of the fog/low clouds to the SW.
It looks like a diurnal process in action.
The exposed ice looks worse than before. Many pothole-polynia's are appearing, remaining snowcover is rapidly melting away and exposing the individual floes. On top of that, the floes turn a 'deeper shade of grey-blue'.
Soon, the Laptev Bite may expand deeper into this region.
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A little OT:
Liftoff! OCO-2 Heads to Orbit
July 2, 2014 -- A United Launch Alliance Delta II rocket launches with the Orbiting Carbon Observatory-2 (OCO-2) satellite onboard from Space Launch Complex 2 at Vandenberg Air Force Base, California. OCO-2 will measure the global distribution of carbon dioxide, the leading human-produced greenhouse gas driving changes in Earth’s climate.
Image Credit: NASA/Bill Ingalls
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This sequence in Nares is pretty extraordinary...
Yes, it's fascinating to watch. Here's yesterday's shot upstream a bit from your shots. You can see that another chunk has broken off. And further up, at the top of the strait, there's open water and very thin ice, suggesting that the whole thing will likely go pretty soon.
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Hey Seattlerocks,
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This 10 km diameter swirl is visible on MODIS
Yours is from a later MODIS-run; diff probably 3-6 hours. The swirl made 60 km to the South and has lost it's vorticity. The 'contrail' is delusive; it doesn't emerge from the 'golfball'. Though it looks to be flowing North, the band seems related to the clearing of the fog/low clouds to the SW.
It looks like a diurnal process in action.
The exposed ice looks worse than before. Many pothole-polynia's are appearing, remaining snowcover is rapidly melting away and exposing the individual floes. On top of that, the floes turn a 'deeper shade of grey-blue'.
Soon, the Laptev Bite may expand deeper into this region.
Is this rare or a normal phenomenon in the Arctic? I wonder what drives power to the vortex
Edit. I just read your post in the other thread so nevermind. It is really amazing
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Is this rare or a normal phenomenon in the Arctic?
I would have interpreted it as a polar low birth if I'd seen it just on one image but now I'm not anymore sure. I do not recall seeing anything this small persisting for so long (occasional checks of MODIS images since 2008.) Could be a new sort of phenomenon. Association of mid-size cumulus-clouds that could grow in to a supercell or two in lower latitudes but here up north there's no chance for that to happen? Weird.
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Increased breakup of shore ice in today's radar animation north of Barrow.
http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_radar (http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_radar)
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From MODIS, wildfires in the Northwest Territories, Canada.
Great Bear Lake is visible on the right, McKenzie River above it.
The fires are obvious, and the plume of smoke is impressive.
North is to the lower right.
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The last of the shore ice has broken up at Barrow.
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/radar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/3657_radar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images_2014-7-8_1-day-animation (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/radar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/3657_radar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images_2014-7-8_1-day-animation)
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The current seems to be moving at a pretty good clip along the shore.
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Giant hole in the Yamal's permafrost.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHD6RmRRMeE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHD6RmRRMeE#ws)
Though can be fake.
They say it is somewhere here https://www.google.ru/maps/place/70%C2%B028%2742.8%22N+67%C2%B047%2752.8%22E/@70.4785556,67.798,17z/data= (https://www.google.ru/maps/place/70%C2%B028%2742.8%22N+67%C2%B047%2752.8%22E/@70.4785556,67.798,17z/data=)!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 Can anyone find this location in modis photos? I don't know how to find coordinates there
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After watching the YouTube video, I believe it is real.
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If it's been faked, then give them an oscar for special effects, and for then not overplaying it.
My money would be on it being caused by a small meteorite. A sinkhole wouldn't have any rubble around the edge.
Whatever the cause, it's eerily fascinating.
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Yikes! Maybe some kind of methane volcano?
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I typed the coordinates into EarthExplorer (http://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/) and came up with this. See Wipneus' Landsat 8 thread (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,638.0.html) if you want to investigate further!
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I think it quite resembles Turkmenistan's "Door to Hell," though that one has been burning for 40 years:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/door-of-hell_n_4311694.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/door-of-hell_n_4311694.html)
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Smoking Hills, a self igniting coal seam & shale oil deposit in the Northwest Territories has been burning for a very long time. First reported by John Franklin in 1826 it's been burning ever since & now is a tourist destination for Arctic Cruises from Nome.
http://www.packridgecruises.explorertravel.co.uk/ports/index.htm?port_id=429 (http://www.packridgecruises.explorertravel.co.uk/ports/index.htm?port_id=429)
Terry
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If it's been faked, then give them an oscar for special effects, and for then not overplaying it.
My money would be on it being caused by a small meteorite. A sinkhole wouldn't have any rubble around the edge.
Whatever the cause, it's eerily fascinating.
The rubble isn't uniform enough to be a meteorite, IMO. It looks more to me to be eruptive - almost like a maar - from some gas build up that reached sufficient pressure to blow out the overlying material.
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Nares straight has indeed shattered and is in motion. Worldview from 12 July 2014. Note the increased surface melt on the ice.
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Yikes! Maybe some kind of methane volcano?
Regarding the crater, found this for structures along the Atlantic continental margin.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2004JB002969/pdf (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2004JB002969/pdf)
A different structure:
http://geolog.egu.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Patomsky-1024x682.jpg (http://geolog.egu.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Patomsky-1024x682.jpg)
In addition, it may be possible we are misinterpreting the debris around the edge of the crater. It may actually be infill disruption rather than material blown out.
http://www.psiee.psu.edu/research/featured_research/gooseff_permafrost.asp (http://www.psiee.psu.edu/research/featured_research/gooseff_permafrost.asp)
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Re. permafrost pit.
Here is a Landsat 8 image from 29th of June with those coordinates in the centre. Image is about 4.5km wide.
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20km east of the previous image I found this. Click for full resolution image.
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Interesting. Looks like drill sites, m'thinks. (second image)
I'm not sure the 1st image has caught our pit.
Drilling would imply gas or oil. Either could generate pressure in pockets under the permafrost; more so if drilling has disturbed the underlying stratigraphy.
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It is huge gas field Bovanenkovo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovanenkovo_gas_field (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovanenkovo_gas_field)
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The large amount of rubble surrounding the sinkhole in the aerial images suggests overturning, though not like you'd see with an impactor, but rather--as several have noted--of the type that would be expected from the sudden expansion of subsurface gas. However, the ground-level video doesn't appear to match the aerial views, as the latter is almost completely devoid of the rubble displayed in the former. Too, the latter appears substantially larger than the former, telling me that either these are two separate things, or the ground level video was taken at a later date after the hole widened, causing much of the rubble-strewn perimeter to fall into it.
Interesting, anyway...
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My 2c, in some of these parts the frozen ground goes down 1000m and 500m is common, so a meteorite shock wave turning the excavated cylinder to steam and only a small % of debris big enough not to be scattered for miles, then summer arrives and the permafrost upper layer dissolves and sheds its burden into the void.
Anyone know how to get googleearth to gauge the depth?
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My 2c, in some of these parts the frozen ground goes down 1000m and 500m is common, so a meteorite shock wave turning the excavated cylinder to steam and only a small % of debris big enough not to be scattered for miles, then summer arrives and the permafrost upper layer dissolves and sheds its burden into the void.
Anyone know how to get googleearth to gauge the depth?
Sorry, it really does not have the the character necessary for a strike. The debris is too assymetric, and one sufficient to produce a crater that size would have generated a fiery multi megaton explosion; something unlikely to have been missed.
Jim, I agree, the video and satellite images don't look like the same locations.
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I can't see how the aerial photo matches the ground photo at all. Neither the surrounding rubble nor the shape of the hole itself matches (it looks by the way quite suicidal to be standing were the video is taken). If the first one (aerial photo) is real, it looks like a combination of a crater and a sinkhole, which means that an explosion triggered the formation of a sinkhole. In the frames between 9 and 12 second you can clearly see a cave like feature at the bottom, which might be the cause of the sinkhole. It also appears to be plenty of water down there, but that is not necessarily a strange thing.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html)
Definitely a UFO. :o
Jk, good find.
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Given its location on the Yamal Peninsula, jutting into the Kara Sea which has seen extensive warming over decades, I would think this hole is a spectacular result of permafrost degradation. This peninsula was sea bed 10,000 years ago, an area of continuous permafrost and I suspect the soil is sediment. As a gas rich region, it would not surprise me if permafrost failure would cause the dramatic release of methane. I think it is unlikely that it is due to the gas extraction efforts in the area but that is possible.
The hole may be related to permafrost hydrology where thermokarst drainage weakens adjacent permafrost.
http://publik.tuwien.ac.at/files/PubDat_209968.pdf (http://publik.tuwien.ac.at/files/PubDat_209968.pdf)
The photos above by Wipneus suggests an expanse of thermokarsts in the area which go through a seasonal cycle of filling and drainage.
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More wildfires, this time from Russia. The prominent plume of smoke is drifting almost due north, into the Arctic. The density and extent of smoke, to my eye, looks significantly worse than what we've seen from the Northwest Territories this season.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov%2Fimagery%2Fsubsets%2FArctic_r05c06%2F2014197%2FArctic_r05c06.2014197.terra.1km.jpg&hash=7bf370818dc4d7009eaa8d62801e02c2)
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"looks significantly worse than what we've seen from the Northwest Territories this season"
You mean after legalizing pot in the south? ;)
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I think Shared Humidity mentioned a small cyclone that lingered in the Arctic for several days. Looking at NASA Worldview, three small cyclones appear to be in relative close proximity to each other.
http://1.usa.gov/1k7oV2d (http://1.usa.gov/1k7oV2d)
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I think Shared Humidity mentioned a small cyclone that lingered in the Arctic for several days.
I think it was Werther who spotted it (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,778.msg30350.html#msg30350) first.
Looking at NASA Worldview, three small cyclones appear to be in relative close proximity to each other.
Most intriguing. They're still visible on Terra today: http://1.usa.gov/1nNlGHL (http://1.usa.gov/1nNlGHL)
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Yeah they have similar size and look as Werther's. This time these ones are not traveling fast like that one. And they form under a (much bigger) low instead of that foggy HP (remember the golf ball).
They form a nice isosceles triangle. mmm. Magic
Really, this thing must have been described before.
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Yeah they have similar size and look as Werther's. This time these ones are not traveling fast like that one. And they form under a (much bigger) low instead of that foggy HP (remember the golf ball).
They form a nice isosceles triangle. mmm. Magic
Really, this thing must have been described before.
Three probable features of this spring to mind.
1) driven in greater part or totally by local advection.
2) little or no atmospheric sheer is present to disrupt them.
3) advection driven by local evaporation from leads.
I wonder if they may be getting spun up by the huge expanses of open water in the Chukchi and Laptev?
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Ice is back in Barrow (short summer 8))
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Ice is back in Barrow (short summer 8))
Is that from over night freeze or from ocean currents pushing ice there?
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Ice is back in Barrow (short summer 8))
Is that from over night freeze or from ocean currents pushing ice there?
Pushed it there, if you look at the animation you can see it clear and then flow back in.
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Soot much?
From EODIS, coast of Nunavit on the left, Victoria Island top.
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Requires no explanation.
http://www.nwtfire.com/cms/nwt-fire-map (http://www.nwtfire.com/cms/nwt-fire-map)
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Requires no explanation.
http://www.nwtfire.com/cms/nwt-fire-map (http://www.nwtfire.com/cms/nwt-fire-map)
The stats to go with that map:
http://up.nwtfire.com/sites/default/files/2014-07-24_currentfiresituation.html (http://up.nwtfire.com/sites/default/files/2014-07-24_currentfiresituation.html)
That's 209 active fires including 5 new ones in the last 24 hours.
Most of the fires (165) are not being fought at all, presumably because they are in the middle of wilderness and represent no immediate danger to people or property.
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Tobias Ø ( http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_%C3%98 (http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_%C3%98) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobias_Island))
http://www.groenlandselskab.dk/uploads///File/PDF/TG/tobias_o_TG01_2009.pdf (http://www.groenlandselskab.dk/uploads///File/PDF/TG/tobias_o_TG01_2009.pdf)
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Arctic melt pond.
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http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=84113 (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=84113)
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Icebergs and ice melange exiting Iulissat Icefjord, Sentinel-1 SAR image on 19.7.2014
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This happens every year, just north of Norway:
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Fog?
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No algae.
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This is an image of Zachariae Isstrøm, to me it looks like a Red Indian, do you see that too?
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Recessed forehead sometimes seen in southern Mexico. I didn't understand where the profiles came from in Mayan ruins until riding a local bus one day and a woman turned sideways to me. Very distinctive.
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Recessed forehead sometimes seen in southern Mexico. I didn't understand where the profiles came from in Mayan ruins until riding a local bus one day and a woman turned sideways to me. Very distinctive.
I guess it comes from those low rocky door frames?
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Looks like the profile on an old US Indian head penny.
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We've drifted far off topic, but I'll add this as I step back onto the ice...
Head shaping has been done on all continents from time to time. The Mayans and other Native American groups practiced it at times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_cranial_deformation)
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Some of the newer satellite digital elevation mapping brings in a whole new world of accuracy, allowing photorealistic perspective views among other things. Here is Isunnguata Sermia in southwestern Greenland: 1135 pixels wide.
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Very cool "wake" coming off Henrietta Island in this morning's Terra Modis:
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Holy shit, I didn't touch that button!
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Poof.
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Sips on well iced glass of Wild Turkey. 8)
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What a difference 8 days can make...
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August 1, 2014
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August 9, 2014
Expect an Extent crash....
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What a beautiful day:
Please click on image to enlarge!
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Nice view today of Ellesmere Island and the gap to its north.
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Full resolution (2.1 MB): http://imgur.com/xgZDj8W (http://imgur.com/xgZDj8W)
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I just like the curls in this fram transport melt
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I just like the curls in this fram transport melt
Can someone tell (or show) me what these curls are comprised of? I see this stuff in various places as the final stage of an area becoming open water, but I've never been quite clear on what it is. Is it slushy stuff, or just very small floes, or water-logged ice, or is it foam, or...? Any pictures of it from (near) the surface?
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I just like the curls in this fram transport melt
Can someone tell (or show) me what these curls are comprised of? I see this stuff in various places as the final stage of an area becoming open water, but I've never been quite clear on what it is. Is it slushy stuff, or just very small floes, or water-logged ice, or is it foam, or...? Any pictures of it from (near) the surface?
Good question. I'll speculate its larger extents of ice disintegrated into a melange of flows under 200m in size.
I'll also speculate that ice in that state is another element contributing to the positive fluctuations in area we see - ice which has come apart over a wide area and spread out.
I need software, gridded data, and most important, more time to determine if its more than just speculation...
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Here is some from MODIS at a resolution of 250M/pixil so yeah, lots of chucks of stuff, giant slushy. These are actually pretty big pieces. The are only small relatively speaking and they do melt fast.
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I just like the curls in this fram transport melt
Can someone tell (or show) me what these curls are comprised of? I see this stuff in various places as the final stage of an area becoming open water, but I've never been quite clear on what it is. Is it slushy stuff, or just very small floes, or water-logged ice, or is it foam, or...? Any pictures of it from (near) the surface?
Good question. I'll speculate its larger extents of ice disintegrated into a melange of flows under 200m in size.
I'll also speculate that ice in that state is another element contributing to the positive fluctuations in area we see - ice which has come apart over a wide area and spread out.
I need software, gridded data, and most important, more time to determine if its more than just speculation...
This appears to have been caused by a small cyclone that went through on the 12th August. Prior to that there were plenty of floes up to 20km across in the area, after that just 600 km of curly slush running down the Greenland sea.
According to Wipneus's figures area and extent went up about 20% in the next three days. Then they started to drop again.
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I just like the curls in this fram transport melt
Can someone tell (or show) me what these curls are comprised of? I see this stuff in various places as the final stage of an area becoming open water, but I've never been quite clear on what it is. Is it slushy stuff, or just very small floes, or water-logged ice, or is it foam, or...? Any pictures of it from (near) the surface?
Hey jdallen, try to put some crushed ice in a big bin or the kitchen sink and watch how it moves when it's melting. I think that the swirling is a part of gravity between the interconnected ice that is left. And the difference between (warmer) and colder water has influence 2
Good question. I'll speculate its larger extents of ice disintegrated into a melange of flows under 200m in size.
I'll also speculate that ice in that state is another element contributing to the positive fluctuations in area we see - ice which has come apart over a wide area and spread out.
I need software, gridded data, and most important, more time to determine if its more than just speculation...
This appears to have been caused by a small cyclone that went through on the 12th August. Prior to that there were plenty of floes up to 20km across in the area, after that just 600 km of curly slush running down the Greenland sea.
According to Wipneus's figures area and extent went up about 20% in the next three days. Then they started to drop again.
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I just like the curls in this fram transport melt
Can someone tell (or show) me what these curls are comprised of? I see this stuff in various places as the final stage of an area becoming open water, but I've never been quite clear on what it is. Is it slushy stuff, or just very small floes, or water-logged ice, or is it foam, or...? Any pictures of it from (near) the surface?
When you get mixing of two fluids in a flow like this you get vortices forming at the interface, the ice in the one flow is acting as a tracer. You sometimes see similar patterns with clouds, check out von Karman vortex streets.
http://www.brockmann-consult.de/CloudStructures/karman-vortex-description.htm (http://www.brockmann-consult.de/CloudStructures/karman-vortex-description.htm)
You can see something similar where two rivers join:
http://a1.typepad.com/6a01116860210d970c019b0385c2d9970c-pi (http://a1.typepad.com/6a01116860210d970c019b0385c2d9970c-pi)
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You may think these islands are down in the tropics somewhere, nope it is Prince Charles Island in Foxe Basin, Nunavut Canada.
The polar bear seems a bit confused too!
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First snow at Eureka:
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Interesting how chaotic ice movement can result in a very square hole northeast of Greenland
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Jakobshaven ice-stream calving-front imaged by Sentinel-1 SAR, 17.8.2014. Note in the lower right corner how differentiation between the ice-stream and ice melange with icebergs can be hard.
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Arcuate crevasses on the trunk of PIG, Sentinel-1 dual-pol 23/08/2014. The scale of this thing is mind-boggling - the width of the scene is 70km! :o ??? :-X
edit: oops this is Antarctica, not Arctic. Cool shit anyway :)
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BTW Andreas Muenchow wrote up a great explanation of the swirls and eddies of ice seen this year in the Greenland sea.
http://icyseas.org/2014/08/22/east-greenland-current-instabilities/ (http://icyseas.org/2014/08/22/east-greenland-current-instabilities/)
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I can't really figure-out exactly what's going on here, but: Beautiful!
From http://climate.audubon.org/article/12-views-warming-world (http://climate.audubon.org/article/12-views-warming-world):
"These opalescent streaks are actually rivulets of glacial meltwater, making their way from ice caps to the sea. The milky appearance comes from all the dissolved sediments, known as rock flour, once locked away in the ice. The tiny rivers’ beauty conceals a dark reality: The country’s more than 300 glaciers are losing 11 billion tons of ice a year. Photo Credit: Solent News/Splash News/Corbis"
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The season is soon over, the black hole is returning to Modis:
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic.2014257.terra.4km (http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic.2014257.terra.4km)
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BÁRÐARBUNGA: OF LAVA LAKES AND RESERVOIRS:
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NASA/USGS TrueColor Landsat 8 image of Bardarbunga and Halslon Reservoir, September 6, 2014.
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One of the winning images from the Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2014 competition.
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http://www.rmg.co.uk/whats-on/exhibitions/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year/2014-winners/earth-and-space (http://www.rmg.co.uk/whats-on/exhibitions/astronomy-photographer-of-the-year/2014-winners/earth-and-space)
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Cross post from ASI
WTF?
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Dramatic but not that significant in itself, solartime27.
More to the point is the huge body of open water, still open at high latitude.
The refreeze begins. Now we wonder over how much ice will return.
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Some serious sea ice cracking north of the Canadian Archipelago:
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Some serious sea ice cracking north of the Canadian Archipelago:
A result of there being nothing to hold the pack in place, perhaps.
I wonder if cracking like this has some future implications?
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Sentinel-1 EW image off the coast of Svalbard, 16.10.2014 at 06:14, dual-pol HH/HV, scene width 400km, at various zoom levels.
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from NASA's Astronomy Picture of the day.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap141103.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap141103.html)
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Thanks for the link Pikia, without it I was convinced that was photo-shopped.
PS - Thanks Nukefix, great images. Is there a public source of those sort of images (like Terra/MODIS rapidfire?)
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ (http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/)
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Here is the slope map of Greenland computed from the surface elevation map. Note that Greenland is basically very flat -- a logarithmic color scale is needed to display subtle differences. However colors chosen by the authors did not do that very well so I re-worked the image in Gimp using the Hue tool, keeping both the native resolution provided to the journal (for which a pdf image extractor is needed) and staying within the blog's 700 pixel width constraint so it will display without compression.
Except it doesn't -- the blog has a secret file size maximum and so it needs a click to open separately and another click after that to reach full size 690 x 1299. It cannot be compressed further as jpg (like the image above, just 193k) without ruining its value.
Guessing that it cost $25,000,000 of science dollars to generate this image or $30 per pixel, every dot counts. I believe the authors submitted it to the journal at full experimental ground resolution (though they flattened coastline and lat,lon on top their precious data). It's very expensive data to throw away if at the very end it has to be displayed as here at 1/3 its size.
Below the blog software has taken it upon itself to replace the user-submitted image with their own jpg_thumb.png without warning or prior approval -- an unacceptable coding practice, because saving the image to desktop then saves the wrong file.
Elevation and elevation change of Greenland and Antarctica derived from CryoSat-2
V. Helm, A. Humbert, and H. Miller
http://www.the-cryosphere.net/8/1539/2014/ (http://www.the-cryosphere.net/8/1539/2014/)
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Batman:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2zlvkyIUAAuuAf.jpg)
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The polar night falls over Jan Mayen between Greenland and Norway. The Beerenberg (bear mountain) volcano lights up in the low sun (5 degrees above the horizon).
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Sea ice arrives in Kimmirut
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Hmm, I wonder what the airflow at 70 hPa (stratosphere) level today looks:
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Hmm, I wonder what the airflow at 70 hPa (stratosphere) level today looks:
Looks like someone is watching us with binoculars, scary!
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PMT111500,
It's the same dumbell we had last winter.
EDIT I finally pulled my finger out and looked at the climatology in the stratosphere. That dumbell is the normal for winter.
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Mount Asgard, Baffin Island.
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http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/mount-asgard-baffin-canada/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ng%2Fphotography%2Fphoto-of-the-day+%28National+Geographic+Photo+of+the+Day%29 (http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/mount-asgard-baffin-canada/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ng%2Fphotography%2Fphoto-of-the-day+%28National+Geographic+Photo+of+the+Day%29)
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Wintery scene in frost-fringed Greenland captured by space shuttle photography? No, just something I made by accident taking the slope of the digital elevation map. The wedge on right center is NEGIS, the northeast Greenland ice stream.
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What happened to the Arctic?
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic.2014354.aqua.4km (http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?mosaic=Arctic.2014354.aqua.4km)
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the situation in the arctic stratosphere appears to be normalizing, right in sync with our first larger snowfall. http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/70hPa/orthographic=-347.48,77.01,381 (http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/70hPa/orthographic=-347.48,77.01,381)
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More fun with Sentinel quick look images by ESA (see Nares Strait thread). Here is Svalbard, composed of three quick-look images. The retreating sea ice in the Barents Sea is visible. A remarkable feature in the northeast Island (Nordaustlandet) looks like a surging glacier, although I could only find an ice cap over there.
( a little click will give you a bigger picture )
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Hello Wipneus it is Isdomen part of Austfonna.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austfonna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austfonna)
http://toposvalbard.npolar.no/ (http://toposvalbard.npolar.no/)
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I am certainly not a geologist, however I am wondering if Isdomen is an ice cap and not a glacier and with that image, could the bulge in the coastline from Kapp Mohn to Hartogbukta be an old landslide?
http://stadnamn.npolar.no/stadnamn/Isdomen?ident=6362&lang=en (http://stadnamn.npolar.no/stadnamn/Isdomen?ident=6362&lang=en)
Could a landslide like that cause a mega-tsunami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatsunami) and if so what sort of effect could something like that have on methane hydrates near the affected shorelines?
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I am certainly not a geologist, however I am wondering if Isdomen is an ice cap and not a glacier
The difference if any is purely semantic. 1400KM3 of ice upwards of 250M thick of ice sounds rather ice cap-ish
and with that image, could the bulge in the coastline from Kapp Mohn to Hartogbukta be an old landslide?
http://stadnamn.npolar.no/stadnamn/Isdomen?ident=6362&lang=en (http://stadnamn.npolar.no/stadnamn/Isdomen?ident=6362&lang=en)
I'd say doubtful. Morphologically, I'd expect a landslide to leave a "bite" rather than a "bulge".
Could a landslide like that cause a mega-tsunami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatsunami) and if so what sort of effect could something like that have on methane hydrates near the affected shorelines?
A quick survey of the stratigraphy and ocean bottom topography strongly suggest to me a large-scale land slip would be improbable to impossible. Unlike places like the Hawaiian Island's or Azores or similar locations, the bedrock appears to be well consolidated pre-cambrian metamorphic rocks or similar more recent well consolidated paleozoic (Carboniferous and Permian - remember coal mining is the major economic activity there) and mesozoic assemblages (as compared to layered poorly consolidated basalt flows. Further, the shelves around the area are quite shallow - less than 250M - as compared to the abyssals that surround the isolated volcanic arc island chains. In short, there is neither the weakness nor the gradient to prompt a catastrophic event like that.
Now, to speculate *somewhat*, the prompt effect of something like that on hydrates I think would be relatively limited, and would affect only those present directly in the path of the slide. While the area affected by a megatsunami would be wide, that affected by the *cause* would not. Further, much of it would be at depth, which while possibly exposing hydrate, would not necessarily prompt it to dissociate. I'd speculate the ocean bottom directly affected would only amount at most to a few hundred KM2, which I doubt would be sufficient to cause a significant methane release.
I'd be far more concerned about large scale intrusions of warm, salty North Atlantic water into the region.
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Quick reference stratigraphy map, high level.
http://nhm2.uio.no/norges/litho/svalbard/1-04.jpg (http://nhm2.uio.no/norges/litho/svalbard/1-04.jpg)
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Well I did find about the Isdomen (perhaps it means ice cap) but wondered if this outlet glacier has been named separately.
Also it seems to extent much further than the maps that have been provided sofar allow, so I wondered about a recent "surge".
I looked through the available Landsat images, this it definitely a cloudy place. Attached is one of the better ones and quite recently.
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I actually believe the tear dropped rise is Isdomen (nunatak in Greenland), and integrated in Austfonna the largest glacier in "Europe".
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The attached sequence shows the difference May 2013- September 2014. The expansion is very well visible.
I did not locate a suitable Landsat 7 image yet, but I believe the big surge could have happened in 2012.
(click req'd)
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A quick survey of the stratigraphy and ocean bottom topography strongly suggest to me a large-scale land slip would be improbable to impossible.
Thank you for detailed reply to my silly speculation.
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the quick-look images are false colored: Horizontal for Red, Vertical for Green and and average for Blue, or at least so they say.
It seems that some aspect of the ice flow is polarized (bright yellow). I took apart the original image above into its RGB components. The red is fairly featureless (pure white in the flow); the green captures the anomaly as a brighter radar reflection (rougher, more crevasses, flow lines?); the blue originally appeared completely black and utterly featureless.
However after pounding on it with gimp's "Equalize' [histogram], features (bottom panel) popped out again. However the central black of your flow is still a pure black. Returning the modified threesome of grayscales to RGB was thus not so informative (not shown).
Setting the red channel to 50% transparency over 100% green gives the average (not shown). This average has no apparent relationship to the blue channel. Replacing the entirety of the blue channel with pure black or shades of gray shows the six dark grays in the original blue is not doing some subtle wizardry -- it is almost indistinguishable from reconstitutions with pure darker grays.
To summarize, I'm not real sure what they did here or why.
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A quick survey of the stratigraphy and ocean bottom topography strongly suggest to me a large-scale land slip would be improbable to impossible.
Thank you for detailed reply to my silly speculation.
It was a reasonable question, and you are welcome. I just happened to be in the rare position of actually having something resembling expertise that could be applied in a reasonable answer.
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the quick-look images are false colored: Horizontal for Red, Vertical for Green and and average for Blue, or at least so they say.
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To summarize, I'm not real sure what they did here or why.
I had some doubts that the documented algorithm (https://sentinel.esa.int/web/sentinel/sentinel-1-sar-wiki/-/wiki/Sentinel%20One/Level-1+Post+Processing+Algorithms#section-Level-1+Post+Processing+Algorithms-QuicklookGeneration) was used.
Quicklook Generation #
Quicklooks are lower resolution images of the product data used to preview the data. Quicklooks are generated by power detecting, averaging and decimating in both azimuth and range directions by a configurable amount. IW and EW SLC product quicklooks are first de-burst and merged.
Single polarisation products are represented with a grey scale image. Dual polarisation products are represented by a single composite color image in RGB with the red channel (R) representing the first polarisation, the green channel (G) representing the second polarisation and the blue channel (B) representing an average of the absolute values of the two polarisations.
Quicklook images are scaled to 8 bit and saved in PNG file format.
Yellow is Blue+Red, so I has a look in gimp myself: the Blue channels is near zero ( zero's and 1's) everywhere. So I think that the Red and Green channels are represented by the H and V polarizations and Blue is either miscalculated or intentionally turned down.
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Quicklooks are generated by power detecting, averaging and decimating in both azimuth and range directions by a configurable amount. IW and EW SLC product quicklooks are first de-burst and merged. the blue channel (B) representing an average of the absolute values of the two polarisations.
Better that they provide a real explanation to real users -- someone who knows what all this insider jargon means would not be reading the help page in the first place: "power detecting, averaging and decimating in both azimuth and range directions by a configurable amount. de-burst and merged"
Blue is either miscalculated or intentionally turned down.
I don't see how adding two reasonably ranging positive numbers from R and G could produce 99.6% of the pixels having a grayscale less than 15. They must have crammed values down to the low end with an extreme use of the 'curves' tool in gimp or counterpart. The histogram below is for S1A_EW_GRDM_1SDH_20150103T060735_20150103T060809_004003_004D21_249B.quicklook.png
But if this was just for the pleasing red and yellow optics, they could simply have taken blue identically equal to 1 on the grayscale and gotten something visually indistinguishable, at least on this image. Been there, done that.
But the 'average of the absolute values of the two polarisations' could be a valid re-normalization effort, the purpose being to tone down excesses in the red-green channels. Maybe in some images this takes out gratuitous non-uniformity and mitigates noisy pixels.
I had some doubts that the documented algorithm was used [for blue channel]
Maybe they will give you a free ride on the space shuttle if you alert them to this problem?
Surely they intended square root of sum of the squares rather than sum of absolute values. Then to calculate the overall mean of the whole image and its std deviation, to divide for the multiples of it. These would reside in some small range mostly at the low end, which could be stretched to [0,255] to assign to each pixel in the blue channel.
Finalize the file system and downloads by Q2 2015?!? Holy toledo, that should have been finalized -- using synthetic data -- on the day of the launch. Parallel processing, not serial. They knew exactly what the data would look like the day the design was finalized.
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Surely they intended square root of sum of the squares rather than sum of absolute values.
Not if the value represent power (instead of amplitude). I bet they are using power because of the "power detecting" phrase.
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the blue channel representing an average of the absolute values of the two polarizations.
Power would already be positive, no need for absolute values. Maybe they mean 'average of the absolute value squared 1/2((pol1 x pol1*)+(pol2 x pol2*)) of the two polarizations.' I'm still going with ((pol1 x pol1*)+(pol2 x pol2*))exp1/2, not 1/2[((pol1 x pol1*)exp1/2+(pol2 x pol2*)exp1/2].
In any case, they have not provided a satisfactory explanation of the algorithm nor do we know what was actually applied. It is almost always better to describe a process through an concrete example.
My experience is that when the writer cannot explain clearly what was done, the writer does not really know what was done. Here I picture a self-important engineer giving a harried explanation as he walks out the door to a lowly contract tech writer.
Looking again at the 4th panel above in Reply #400, the blue channel constant color islands do make some sense in the central region though two ragged vertical bars do not have an obvious interpretation. The actual blue channel used has no visual consequences at all so it must serve some 'politically correct' purpose in the scientific imaging context.
In other words, the blue channel is just coming along for the ride but might really be used for something later. It reminds me of Howat using grayscale channels on a DEM to carry the error and date (source) of each pixel in an image, not for making an RGB but to provide (alpha channel) masking.
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If you're measuring polarisation in two orthogonal directions then shouldn't the average be identical for every pixel? That's kind of how polarisation works (if I remember my physics from 20 years ago - I'm really a biologist!)
In that case I imagine the blue channel is simply there as a QC channel to spot and exclude contaminated data, and it's deliberately kept to low values so as not to pollute the visual image with QC data.
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In the histogram panel above, the pixel values in the blue channel are crammed in to [0,16) which to my mind is not coincidentally the square root of the full range of possibilities, 256. (Note ImageJ2 offers sq roots of images.)
I think there is merit in your noting A and B are orthogonal for cross terms in the dot product (A,B)^2. The blue channel might be QC, a carried-along storage channel, a weighted masking device, a correction for very low power pixels, or an advanced statistical tool needed for rational scientific adjustment beyond our mere aesthetic ogling.
If we find all the quicklook blue channels are confined to (0,16), that would be a strong clue. I looked just now at a Nares region quicklook posted by Wipneus, http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,176.msg42492.html#msg42492 (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,176.msg42492.html#msg42492)
The blue channel range there is [0,9] so still below 16. There are 876 pixels right at 0 for 0.2% of the 415,100 = 700 x 593 image whereas the peak at 2 has 171,912 pixels for 44.1%. The effect of adding a bit of blue to a predominantly yellow = red + green is to push the pixel over towards the diagonal of the color cube (gray).
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Making things more confusing I found that the images presented in the graphical search application, and also called "quicklook" are different in this respect. I already knew that they where jpeg instead of png, but the blue channel is fully developed.
Filenames are identical except the documented "quicklook" ends in ".quicklook.png" and these images have "-ql.jpg" endings.
Example, the Severnaya Zemlya" islands yesterday:
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Making things more confusingimages presented in the graphical search application also called "quicklook" are different. I already knew that they where jpeg instead of png, but the blue channel is fully developed.Filenames are identical except "quicklook" ends in ".quicklook.png" and these images have "-ql.jpg" endings.
Please, please can someone email the ESA help desk to put us out of our misery? Or before they did themselves into a deeper archiving hole
One difference, as you can see below, is they apparently take the square root of the blue channel in what we have been looking at so far. (You can see the same vertical artifact bars in what I posted earlier for Svalbard.) But I am quite concerned about their poor file naming system and above all the possible use of lossy jpeg. These quicklooks are fairly small files that can be losslessly compressed with png.
In the second image below, I replaced the blue channel grayscale with its square root and reconstituted as RGB, with more or less the expected outcome, probably off by a scalar.
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Quick-look panorama of the West Greenland coast.
(click to enlarge, but probably won't fit on your single monitor)
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Gorgeous. Worth noting that top is east and that Jakobshavn and Disko Bay are dead center. Blue channel is, as before, <16. I'm going to try displaying in vertically as width is just 526 pixels... no, blog will does not display that tall even at that width even compressed to a 440 k jpeg. The overlay below has north on top.
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Below I 'sentinelized' the 07-08 Jan scenes of Nares Strait. That is, the three gray scales were taken as red the 8th, green the 7th and blue just straight black, then composed into RGB color. It kinda shows the new developments in red and yesterday in green. Yellow is where not much changed.
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The Sentinel radar uses C-band microwave reflection that is supposed to be rather insensitive to clouds and water vapor. Nevertheless a small cyclone is clearly visible. Perhaps what we are seeing are waves? To the left Greenland, Iceland is just south of this image and the island is Jan Mayen.
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It is worth marking up some of this Sentinel imagery as we gradually figure out what the satellite is seeing (and why).
Here, I am thinking strong wind from the east, a blocking of clouds and a calming effect on waters in the lee of Jan Mayen. With clouds, it seems like there should be more of a difference due to island elevation, least at the saddle, but not so much for calming of water. Not seeing von Kármán vortex eddies, which would be in clouds. They seem to be having technical difficulties in the green channel...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n_vortex_street
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Part of the explanation seems to be the much lower HV signal of open sea compared with land/ice.
From the data files, the average pixel value of the HH image is 504 (16-bit values here), for the HH image it is 91 or about 18%. For comparison an image of NE Greenland, with land ice, rocks and sea ice the average HH pixel value was 1067 and for HV a value of 551, about 50%.
(Channel values are signal amplitudes rather than intensities.)
The attached image of Jan Mayen is created from the HH values with some linear stretching applied.
Compared with an optical Landsat image (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,416.msg40451.html#msg40451) a typical distortion in SAR images called foreshortening can be seen. The slope of the Beerenberg facing the satellite (which is on the right of this image) is compressed while the slope on the other side has been stretched. The NE Beerenberg slope is more than twice as bright as anything I see in the NE Greenland image.
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I cannot help thinking that ESA thinks the Zachariae Isstrom and Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden must be one of the most uninteresting places in Greenland. In the last 7 days they managed to produce 74 Sentinel 1A images of the East Coast of Greenland, none covering the two giant glaciers.
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It is horrifying to think they might just tossing the raw data for Zachariae. I realize that these satellites produce too many terabytes to store everything and a lot of what they do store will never be requested by a user. Still, maybe a polite letter (citing # of goog scholar Zach studies)?
Meanwhile, your west coast quick-tile was not only very instructive for the land and marine terminating glaciers, but also for the interior ice (mostly shown in the north). In fact the pitmarks and ice divides bore an uncanny resemblance to the surface elevation DEM. I would like to see the coast strip widened to get more of the interior. However one just downloaded for JI was completely blown out in the green interior (pure 255),
I think there would be quite a 'market' for a dramatic red/green image of the entire coastline as well as the interior. Seems like I get different responses to coverage whether I draw a large or tiny rectangle at the search interface. I wonder if it has a small max for the number of responses it seeks to fill a query. https://scihub.esa.int/dhus/
Frustrating to see a little thumbnail icon on the search results but have no way of seeing it at reasonable scale, short of a giga-download (which I can only do, from Excede satellite, between 1-5 am in the morning!).
I still don't see how I go about making my own full scale quicklook from the R and G channels, in this case s1a-ew-grd-hh-20141201t095119-20141201t095223-003524-004252-001.tiff and s1a-ew-grd-hh-20141201t095119-20141201t095223-003524-004252-003.tiff in the 'measurement' subfolder.
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The attached is the Metop 1 AVHRR image of the Nares Strait sea ice collapse over the last few days. I do not recall seeing this in January in the past.
A4R
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Nares? Heck, the Beaufort isn't looking particularly happy, Either...
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Nares? Heck, the Beaufort isn't looking particularly happy, Either...
An extract from the Canadian Ice Service's latest RADARSAT mosaic (http://www.ec.gc.ca/glaces-ice/default.asp?lang=En&n=DFFA2648-1):
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The Beaufort was broken up by Nov 27 2014, and has gone through waves of fracturing since. Here is the 112714 view.
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Thank A4R, Jim;
I'd gotten out of the habit of looking at the Canadian Weather Service winter IR and Radar imagery. I need to start that back up again. EOSDIS got me spoiled, and I'd stopped browsing once it went dark.
Is it as much that the Beaufort fractured in late November, or that it simply hasn't consolidated since reaching minimum? There was an immense expanse of open water across the Chukchi and ESS until quite late. That's reflected in the rather low ice thicknesses across those regions. Regardless, its not healthy.
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A bit late (image is from 2014-12-24) but the image is worth looking at.
Composed with 4 quick-look images, in the lower left corner the Mackenzie river estuary. To the right surprisingly clear broken sea ice and in between fast ice, dark because it is flat.
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Here is something fishy, below Ross Ice Shelf (found 850 km beyond the calving front) :
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Iceberg shadows:
The sun is still low, but the shadows are great, here is an image from Scoresby Sund, February 18 2015, courtesy of Landsat and Daugaard-Jensen Gletscher (there might be a piece or two from Charcot Gletscher and F. Graae Gletscher):
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Laptev Feb 13, close up of the Arctic "ice factory". Processed using ImageMagick and Gimp. Red is HH polarization, Green is HV and Blue is none.
(click for the big picture)
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There are more things in heaven and earth, oh Modeller,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. [Hamlet, scene v, updated]
These are three consecutive north-south slices of ice penetrating radar just below the Petermann Glacier proper and aligned with its flow. The overall size of the Eemian ice upheaval feature exceeds 800 km3.
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Island in a Lake on an Island in a Lake on an Island!
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov%2Fimages%2Fimagerecords%2F85000%2F85342%2Fvictoria_oli_2014233.jpg&hash=a7cc060ff363b2491dfb17e012f99567)
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85342 (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85342)
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The Sentinel radar uses C-band microwave reflection that is supposed to be rather insensitive to clouds and water vapor. Nevertheless a small cyclone is clearly visible. Perhaps what we are seeing are waves? To the left Greenland, Iceland is just south of this image and the island is Jan Mayen.
The radar is highly sensitive to sea surface roughness so that it probably what you are seeing.
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Nice Sunday shot of (very) green Greenland and the new cyclone south of Iceland.
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Island in a Lake on an Island in a Lake on an Island!
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov%2Fimages%2Fimagerecords%2F85000%2F85342%2Fvictoria_oli_2014233.jpg&hash=a7cc060ff363b2491dfb17e012f99567)
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85342 (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85342)
That's nice. I found a couple of examples (from Finland) that are islands in a lake in an island in a lake, the largest was be c. 1.75km long but that one takes the cake being one more I guess :)
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Icebergs around the Totten ice-stream in Antarctica:
http://www.polarview.aq/images/105_S1jpgfull/S1A_EW_GRDM_1SSH_20150308T112204_AB07_S_1.final.jpg (http://www.polarview.aq/images/105_S1jpgfull/S1A_EW_GRDM_1SSH_20150308T112204_AB07_S_1.final.jpg)
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Sperm cells captured from the 79 Gletscher:
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The "tropical" island of Jan Mayen with its lagoons along the coast:
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Amazing sea-ice features between Svalbard and Franz-Josef Land:
http://www.polarview.aq/images/105_S1jpgfull/S1A_EW_GRDM_1SDH_20150325T134957_4D8A_N_1.final.jpg (http://www.polarview.aq/images/105_S1jpgfull/S1A_EW_GRDM_1SDH_20150325T134957_4D8A_N_1.final.jpg)
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Detail from above link. I have no idea what would make the loopy line.
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Detail from above link. I have no idea what would make the loopy line.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.arctic-sea-ice.net%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D416.0%3Battach%3D14990%3Bimage&hash=9bca7e329a2433ff86fcc9372d149e01)
If I were a space alien tasked with making intriguing patterns in corn fields, I'd certainly consider switching to ice graffiti, if I knew how eagerly sea ice was being watched from a growing number of satellites.
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Detail from above link. I have no idea what would make the loopy line.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.arctic-sea-ice.net%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D416.0%3Battach%3D14990%3Bimage&hash=9bca7e329a2433ff86fcc9372d149e01)
If I were a space alien tasked with making intriguing patterns in corn fields, I'd certainly consider switching to ice graffiti, if I knew how eagerly sea ice was being watched from a growing number of satellites.
Never ascribe to mystery what can be explained by a failure of quality control. It looks like a hair or filament of some sort, that got into the mechanism past the inspectors.
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I very much doubt it's a hair, JD. How do you suggest a hair got into these computer images? If a real snow/ice feature, I think we can all agree that it must have been some continuous movement, probably by wind (I've seen natural snowballs blow this way in changing wind), but the scale here is so enormous that I'm utterly mystified. Any idea how broad this looping band is?
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Attached is the March 25th Aqua-Modis 7-2-1 close-up for the same spot. Something loopy going-on here? Occam's Razor would certainly suggest this is caused by something in the image processing chain . . .
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The scribble is visible on Sentinel images from Polar View as well (but also directly from the public archives of ESA). I see the feature moving but not with the ice. So somehow it is an artifact, although I don't see how: hair on the lens is not an option.
(click to download a 3MB animation)
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Don't see why hair on the lens isn't an option. Dirt and contamination is an issue in any mechanism, and this is no exception. Whatever it is, it's obviously mobile, which explains why it's not been noticed before - presumably it wasn't in the way of the sensor in previous images from the same source.
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Don't see why hair on the lens isn't an option. Dirt and contamination is an issue in any mechanism, and this is no exception. Whatever it is, it's obviously mobile, which explains why it's not been noticed before - presumably it wasn't in the way of the sensor in previous images from the same source.
There is no lens involved. The imaging in SAR is purely in the processing software, based on the timing of the returned signal. Any obstruction of the antenna (beam) would affect all imaged pixels.
(as far as I know of course)
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I don't believe the curlicue line is an instrumental artefact of any kind, for portions of it stay in place between images--that is, over precisely the same parts of the ice even as the ice itself moves and shifts. However, the line appears to evolve lengthwise over time, with older parts of the curlicue disappearing even as newer parts are created. My guess, then: an icebreaker path (maybe continuing sea trials for Russia's sideways-travelling Baltika?)
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Wonderful, I think you nailed it Jim.
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It's Cyrillic. Rough translation: Masha, will you marry me? ;) ;D
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And now it is spring, the watering hole for all Polar Beers is now opening their service at Kap Jackson / Washington Land:
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I don't believe the curlicue line is an instrumental artefact of any kind, for portions of it stay in place between images--that is, over precisely the same parts of the ice even as the ice itself moves and shifts. However, the line appears to evolve lengthwise over time, with older parts of the curlicue disappearing even as newer parts are created.
Good observation, this is what I see, too: A movement from the right edge to the left, and fresher trails on the left.
My guess, then: an icebreaker path (maybe continuing sea trials for Russia's sideways-travelling Baltika?)
No space–aliens?! Dang! :D
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Island in a Lake on an Island in a Lake on an Island!
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov%2Fimages%2Fimagerecords%2F85000%2F85342%2Fvictoria_oli_2014233.jpg&hash=a7cc060ff363b2491dfb17e012f99567)
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85342 (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85342)
69.7923954,-108.2398877 for anyone who wants to look on Google Maps...
It's a sub-sub-island (only two "subs".)
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Sparkling clear skies and flying reindeer (?) in Svalbard!
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Would be interesting to add the Churchill Port cam on Hudson's Bay to the webcam page over in sea ice graphs. http://www.portofchurchill.ca/port-media/live-feed (http://www.portofchurchill.ca/port-media/live-feed)
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Would be interesting to add the Churchill Port cam on Hudson's Bay to the webcam page over in sea ice graphs. http://www.portofchurchill.ca/port-media/live-feed (http://www.portofchurchill.ca/port-media/live-feed)
That's pretty cool, but unfortunately I can't 'copy' live camera feeds to the ASIG, only images.
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Feoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov%2Fimages%2Fimagerecords%2F85000%2F85642%2Farctic_dms_2015091.jpg&hash=8c66bcd88e63782f0d4955f4561023d0)
Laser scan of the sea ice.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85642 (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=85642)
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A square feature in the Fram Strait marks the edge of the ice pack to the west and the north to more open ocean to the south-east.
(image credit: Polar View supplied image from ESA Sentinel 1A)
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Sentinels of the Arctic.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fapod.nasa.gov%2Fapod%2Fimage%2F1205%2Fsnowtrees_bonfadini_960.jpg&hash=1f622d3c5e23eba22bdd6215d26ff2f5)
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150412.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150412.html)
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Sentinels of the Arctic.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fapod.nasa.gov%2Fapod%2Fimage%2F1205%2Fsnowtrees_bonfadini_960.jpg&hash=1f622d3c5e23eba22bdd6215d26ff2f5)
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150412.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap150412.html)
OK....this needs to be explained..... :o
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I think you will find a tree under the snow?
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Explanation: Who guards the north? Judging from the above photograph, possibly giant trees covered in snow and ice. The featured picture was taken a few winters ago in Finnish Lapland where weather can include sub-freezing temperatures and driving snow. Surreal landscapes sometimes result, where common trees become cloaked in white and so appear, to some, as watchful aliens. Far in the distance, behind this uncommon Earthly vista, is a more common sight -- a Belt of Venus that divided a darkened from sunlit sky as the Sun rose behind the photographer. Of course, in the spring, the trees thaw and Lapland looks much different.
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I think you will find a tree under the snow?
I'm not so sure about this...
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It could be one those guys, but
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It could be one those guys, but
;D ;)
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The sea north of Svalbard is extremely empty of sea-ice, I feel sorry for the polar bears:
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Bering Sea via Lance-Modis
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For comparison, last year, -2 days.
http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r06c03.2014106.terra (http://lance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r06c03.2014106.terra)
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Shot of the Bering via WorldView, from a few days ago. Highlights just how weak the ice is, even with "northerlies". (Click for full resolution)
EOSDIS link:
https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_Bands367,Reference_Labels%28hidden%29,Reference_Features%28hidden%29,Coastlines&t=2015-04-17&v=-9683319.918656182,-2575079.502869974,2367112.0813438175,3200280.497130026
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Sentinel 1A image of Point Barrow. The pinkish color is open water (at least that is how UH AMSR2 sea ice concentration sees it). Fast ice to the east is dark and is clearly different form the ice in the main pack.
(click for the bigger image)
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My latest contribution was deleted due to different sense of humor!
Hate censorship though!
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Can we see Greenlandic mountains from the O-Buoy 9?
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.meteociel.fr%2Fim%2F4716%2Fwebcam_xuh8.jpg&hash=b699c0490c8f4d12fc120df695ad648f)
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Can we see Greenlandic mountains from the O-Buoy 9?
I was wondering that myself. We can certainly see ITP 59 (http://batchgeo.com/map/itp-59) in the foreground. Here also is one I prepared earlier:
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Here's a nice image Jim Hunt posted on the ASIB:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgreatwhitecon.info%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2FLC8-MackenzieDelta-20150504-400.jpg&hash=2fcd72d0663aadf8e9283b7d4230a858)
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Can we see Greenlandic mountains from the O-Buoy 9?
The shore is only about 70-80 km away so it has to be Greenland. And that is really cool.
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This is (ant)arctic but anyway, a S-1 multitemporal RGB of the Larsen B ice-shelf remnant with the following dates:
R=18.4.2015
G=30.4.2015
B=12.5.2015
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due to the popularity of obuoy 9:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fobuoy.datatransport.org%2Fdata%2Fobuoy%2Fvar%2Fplots%2Fbuoy9%2Fcamera%2Fwebcam.jpg%3Ftimestamp%3D1431800211657&hash=2115d9f47665979e33df7e0306008ccd)
pretty nice lead in view. Buoy is on the move towards fram strait again.
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Well drat. I just mentioned that on the "What the buoys are telling us" thread before I spotted that you had put a picture from it here. ::)
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By way of comparison, here's one (http://greatwhitecon.info/resources/arctic-sea-ice-images/summer-2014-images/#OBuoy9) from last summer too!
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Anyone know what these dark steaks that come off of these two islands in the Canadian Archipelago are? I believe the island are called Ellef Rignes and Amund Rignes. They have been present for days, best I can tell there are salt domes on Ellef Rignes. Would it melt snow? The snow cover overlay really highlights the island with blue. (Second attachment)
https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_Snow_Cover,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2015-05-21&v=-1411124.1539678937,-918139.4650359474,-755764.1539678937,-582267.4650359474 (https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_Snow_Cover,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2015-05-21&v=-1411124.1539678937,-918139.4650359474,-755764.1539678937,-582267.4650359474)
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Sunset over the lake district...
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pretty close to the alaska mainland, though.
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JayW,
"Anyone know what these dark steaks that come off of these two islands in the Canadian Archipelago are?"
It is most likely tiny fragments of Anhydrite crystals, which have been blown off the top of the salt diapirs on these islands. Anhydrite only has a Moh hardness of 3-3.5, which is less than the hardness of ice crystals at ordinary winter temperatures in these tracts.
The elongated streaks of dark particles, you see on the sea ice, may reflect the dominant wind direction from NE during the last major snow storm(s) in the area.
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Beautifully clear picture of the Bering Strait and the Chukchi on Modis this morning. The difference in residual snow cover on the Alaskan and Siberian sides is striking.
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Thanks. Beautiful and instructive picture.
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(https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11403430_694058164055355_9115045865841794277_n.jpg?oh=f2d2f690c26d35b84cfafb4689dfe8c0&oe=560268E0)
Sublime!
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Wow. Who took that?
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Wow. Who took that?
Alexey Trofimov
http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/profile/619051/ (http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/profile/619051/)
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Jim,
Thanks, I received this image via Facebook without attribution.
Verg
Edit: BTW the location is lake Baikal.
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Alexey Trofimov
http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/profile/619051/ (http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/profile/619051/)
He has many other amazing photos of ice too. Some examples:
http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/3304682/ (http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/3304682/)
http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/5865492/ (http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/5865492/)
http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/5845574/ (http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/5845574/)
http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/5865479/ (http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/5865479/)
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Nice images of black ice, one of the magic wonders of nature ;) ;)
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This is what meltponds on sea ice look like up close.
The image from August 11, 2014 in the Petermann fjord. It is a DigitalGlobe satellite image via Google Maps:
https://goo.gl/maps/PlgCq (https://goo.gl/maps/PlgCq)
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Yes that new digiglobe imagery for Petermann is absolutely fantastic -- I had no idea what I was looking at before on Landsat or Sentinel images which do not quite have the resolution to match intrinsic feature size.
Below, the central drainage channel in the Petermann ice sheet looked like it had a transverse fault, but no, just a change in channel.
However the biggest thing to happen to Greenland glaciology since the invention of the sled dog is the availability of fast free adaptive contrast adjustment, CLAHE (see FIJI, ImageJ2 process menu) -- snow on ice has really poor contrast and the Digiglobe images are generically enhanced, not specifically adapted to the Greenland ice sheet. They're even better than they look.
Applying the filter is like lifting a sheet of wax paper off the original image!
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Wow. Just wow.
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That's beautiful a-team. Just plain, incredibly, beautiful.
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not so beautiful, but a bit shocking for me. MODIS shows Lake Hazen on Ellesmere thawing/breaking up.
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A spectacular picture from the O-buoy12 cam.
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A spectacular picture from the O-buoy12 cam.
Looks like a layer of fresh/recent snow but the snow seems kind of wet?
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Looks like a layer of fresh/recent snow but the snow seems kind of wet?
Yes, it seems like the skies have just cleared after a snowfall. Don't think the snow is wet though, it has been below 0 all day. The darker patches are older melt ponds with snow on top
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Looks like a layer of fresh/recent snow but the snow seems kind of wet?
Yes, it seems like the skies have just cleared after a snowfall. Don't think the snow is wet though, it has been below 0 all day. The darker patches are older melt ponds with snow on top
Hmm looks like you are probably right.
On the other hand Buoy 11 seems to be sporting signs of melt ponding.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F28luq14.jpg&hash=8fe70abe18a99e0007dd9b5943552c19)
so bit of a mixed bag in terms of snow fall vs melt on the buoys. I wish we had an absolute albedo measure of the ice pack to compare different years to.
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Actually, I have a bit of a puzzle:
arctic.io/explorer
If you zoom into Lake Hazen and also change the dates, you see that the northeastern part darkened two days ago, was fully dark yesterday and is white again today. Any idea what was there? Perfectly flat/smooth ice surface?
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Here's what's currently being counted as "extent" in the North Baffin:
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plinius -- At a guess; lake effect fog, formed when colder air moved onto the lake, and the water evaporating from the lake water condensed as fog.
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Here's what's currently being counted as "extent" in the North Baffin:
Below are a couple of fog-lifts. Not rocket science to do before measurement.
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Here's what's currently being counted as "extent" in the North Baffin:
Below are a couple of fog-lifts. Not rocket science to do before measurement.
Thank you for emphatically emphasizing my point, A-Team.
I expect Baffin will shortly be contributing to a rapid plunge in extent.
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H stands for ? ( besides smoke )
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Looking at this image from the day after tomorrow, it seems the permafrost is starting to tell us something :o
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Looking at this image from the day after tomorrow, it seems the permafrost is starting to tell us something :o
Wasn't "The Day After Tomorrow" the one which had global warming desalinating the North Atlantic, thereby disrupting the gulf-stream and suddenly triggering a new ice age, which showed it was serious by instantly popsicle-izing the Whitehouse, leading to the least credible aspect of the movie... the environmentalist epiphany of the decidedly Cheney-esque erstwhile vice-president?
In the real world - if that's what the permafrost is really saying, then Exxon, Shell & BP are probably fighting over who gets to frack the methane out of it as we speak ;)
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Detailed image of a frozen lead, and now melting in the East Siberian Sea, as discussed in the "home brew" thread.
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Detailed image of a frozen lead, and now melting in the East Siberian Sea, as discussed in the "home brew" thread.
Okay, wipneus, admit it: you took a picture of broken safety glass with a really good camera. ;) ;D
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Nullschool is the new Van Gogh... ;)
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-65.74,97.19,786 (http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-65.74,97.19,786)
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Time to clean the satellite?
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Barrow Sea-Ice break-up happening right now.
A bit surprising that it survived so long - there was some luck though with ice being pushed onto the coastal ice ridges for several days (and currently bearing 50F air temperature...). Despite that, quite early for a break-up in Barrow, normally this is in the first or second July week.
Video:
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/current-1_day_animation.webm (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/current-1_day_animation.webm)
And Radar:
http://feeder-movie.gina.alaska.edu/movie_definitions/barrow-radar-realtime/movies/current.webm (http://feeder-movie.gina.alaska.edu/movie_definitions/barrow-radar-realtime/movies/current.webm)
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Time to clean the satellite?
I've seen that on a number of images, all along roughly that line of latitude, on different days.... At a guess they are blind spots caused by something blocking the outgoing signal to those locations? E.g. perhaps the mount of an antenna which needs to be oriented in a conflicting direction, in order to maintain communication, at the time that the SAR array needs to be projecting energy at those spots?
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Time to clean the satellite?
I've seen that on a number of images, all along roughly that line of latitude, on different days.... At a guess they are blind spots caused by something blocking the outgoing signal to those locations? E.g. perhaps the mount of an antenna which needs to be oriented in a conflicting direction, in order to maintain communication, at the time that the SAR array needs to be projecting energy at those spots?
Those holes must be indicative of something going awry in the post-processing of the images by Polarview as they do not look like any known types of SAR image artifacts.
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Any thoughts on this dark region? I don't think it is melt ponds covered by snow as discussed above on June 11. It is a broad region that gets larger and darker over several days. My hunch would be smoke deposition, but could it be fresh, or last years melting through? Lat / Long around 83 / 138
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My hunch would be smoke deposition
I wouldn't be sure of that in the CAB, but there's plenty over North America just at the moment:
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More smoke over the Beaufort.
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Solartime27
I think it is Algual bloom, it was initiated in Jun 11 when the ice did broke momentarily.
http://1.usa.gov/1Hm6Iab (http://1.usa.gov/1Hm6Iab)
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I have noticed that the Arctic seems noticeably darker over the entire expanse than the last couple of years, so I thought I'd try to make that more obvious by doing the following:
- Take the seven day period of June 20-26 in each of the 2013, 2014 and 2015 seasons.
- Average the seven images from each year together to smooth out effect of weather.
- "Dark-blend" the seven images from each year to eliminate clouds as far as possible
- Boost the contrast identically for each year's image to make the differences easier to see.
Here's what the result looks like. 2015 is clearly less reflective than either of the last two years. This is confirmed by histogram analysis, which shows a significantly lower mode than 2013 or 2014.
I didn't do the same for 2012 because the original images for that year don't look like they were processed consistently.
Edit: I should explain what the darken blending mode in Photoshop does for those who might be unfamiliar with it. Suppose I have two similar images stacked on top of each other. Normally, the top layer would completely obscure the bottom layer. However, if I set the mode to "Darken", then each pixel in the visible image would reflect only the darker pixel from image A and image B, regardless of which is on top. So if image A and B were identical except for a cloud that has moved within the frame, the cloud would magically disappear. By the same token, if image A is white ice with the exception of a crack that has moved to a new location in image B, the crack would appear in both locations in the final image. So the "darken" mode exaggerates the degree of fragmentation of mobile ice under clear skies.
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Very nice image, Nick! Definitely an Arctic image of the day. But maybe you can copy your comment and post it in the 2015 Melting Season thread?
And I might ask you to do another one of those in July, as I'm going to focus mainly on whether 2015 is going to beat 2013 and 2014. Very smart and elegant method.
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Very nice image, Nick! Definitely an Arctic image of the day. But maybe you can copy your comment and post it in the 2015 Melting Season thread?
And I might ask you to do another one of those in July, as I'm going to focus mainly on whether 2015 is going to beat 2013 and 2014. Very smart and elegant method.
Thanks Neven. I copied this message to the 2015 Melting Season thread & I will do a similar analysis from July 20-26 when available.
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIkIjBTv.jpg&hash=83b1a4b8db7b14bcdc8c81dc800e4b61)
North pole cam, 87N. Melt ponds have formed and albedo has dropped. For comparison, here is July 1, 2012:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgjDfHNL.jpg&hash=1782b55291a2d5cd39a106a4510d6fea)
Verg
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Interesting to see that the Pole is slightly ahead of 2012 in forming melt ponds.
However, it's important to note that this year started with only 2cm of snow (recorded at time of buoy placement), whereas 2012 started with 30cm, and was down to about 10cm by the start of July - i.e. a loss of 20cm of snow. So another interpretation of that data would say that up to the end of june / start of July, 2012 had seen 10x as much melting as 2015.
In other words, while 2015 started the year with a heck of a head start, most of that has now been lost, and we will need a drastic change in weather conditions to see anything remotely approaching 2012.
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Interesting to see that the Pole is slightly ahead of 2012 in forming melt ponds.
However, it's important to note that this year started with only 2cm of snow (recorded at time of buoy placement), whereas 2012 started with 30cm, and was down to about 10cm by the start of July - i.e. a loss of 20cm of snow. So another interpretation of that data would say that up to the end of june / start of July, 2012 had seen 10x as much melting as 2015.
In other words, while 2015 started the year with a heck of a head start, most of that has now been lost, and we will need a drastic change in weather conditions to see anything remotely approaching 2012.
Agree - 2015 had a head start - lowest Maxima on record.
Overstated - that 2012 had 10x as much melt as 2015
Not certain - 2015 will need a drastic weather change to reach 2012.
In short, I think my point here, is I don't think 2015 is in better shape right now than 2012 was. Given approximately equivalent weather, or even weather similar to what we have right now, I think 2015 is going to make a serious run at 2012. I think it will require far *better* weather for ice preservation to prevent 2015 from displacing one of the lowest three years on record. I still think we have an even chance to reach or pass 2012.
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Out of context but with a Whole Lotta Love ;):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcCC2g1Ke0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxcCC2g1Ke0)
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Everyone, I give you the Siberian coast.
Fast ice from the Chukchi to the Kara is shattering or covered with extensive, significant low-albedo melt ponds, from the coast to several hundred KM from the coast.
This ice is now in the full grip of serious melt, whether area and extent numbers demonstrate it, or not.
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Everyone, I give you the Siberian coast.
Fast ice from the Chukchi to the Kara is shattering or covered with extensive, significant low-albedo melt ponds, from the coast to several hundred KM from the coast.
This ice is now in the full grip of serious melt, whether area and extent numbers demonstrate it, or not.
The edge is passing Wrangler island very fast. Which reminds me of certain idiot foreseeing it wouldn't get even close.
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Look at what has happened suddenly at obuoy 9 as it has gotten to the northeast tip of Greenland!(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F&hash=35d7d5d7526c9897dfb55501e320295a)
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Nares Strait, July 3rd. Clear skies, melt ponds and fracturing ice.
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Check out the feature between about 78 and 82 degrees N. and 150E and 165E, in the daily AMSR2 concentration map. It seems to be remarkably intact. Maybe from a major fracturing event in the Beaufort? There seems to perhaps be an interference pattern of Two different fracturing events to the SW of the main feature.
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The preview Landsat image provided by EarthExplorer -- which gets used every day somewhere on these forums -- is formed from bands 7,3,1 used for RGB. That works quite well to produce somewhat natural color on land but not so well on ice. I found bands 5,3,1 work much better because band 5 has much better inherent contrast than band 7.
To make the image below, the bands are loaded into ImageJ2, put in a stack, co-cropped to the region of interest, then enhanced for optimal local contrast (CLAHE menu item) still in 16-bit mode, and finally combined into RGB. The top layer is cut away diagonally twice with the 'free select tool' and 'invert selection' to get the effect. I have not found pan-sharpening with band 8 (eg replacing band 5, up-scaling bands 1 and 3) to be helpful on the color.
Click on the split animation to see the difference at full resolution (30 m) -- it's a remarkable improvement.
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High Concentration Ice "eagle" (my drawing on CT map):
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Is the eagle welcoming the ice to the endangered species list?
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Is that a hole through its heart or lung? Or does it 'just miss' this time?
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Eastern Kara sea land fast ice has shattered completely, and is now well on its way to destruction.
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And here we have, the best part of 900,000KM2 of ice which is about to disappear, directly.
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The difference between multi year ice and first year ice is now clearly visible in Beaufort.
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Yes, nice image!
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Smoke from the Alaska fires is definitely drifting over a substantial part of the ice now: http://1.usa.gov/1Hci5No (http://1.usa.gov/1Hci5No)
I wonder if enough is making it down to ice-level to offset the reduced insolation with reduced albedo.
EDIT: Image Attached.
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Is the eagle welcoming the ice to the endangered species list?
No, it's leaving the Arctic before the polar bears get too hungry!
Is that a hole through its heart or lung? Or does it 'just miss' this time?
It's a mark from when it was attacked by an Arctic fox - fortunately it escaped.
:)
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What a difference two weeks makes.
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I apologize for not orienting these images so they are in closer alignment.
However, I offer July 8, 2012 and July 8, 2015 images of the Beaufort, Chukchi and ESS from Banks Island/Straight to the New Siberian Islands.
From the hip, I'd say the 2015 ice is in much worse shape.
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Greenland from my favorite buoy this summer, obuoy 9 passing very close to the northeastern tip of the island.
edited for wrong image.
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One of many incredible sceneries in Greenland, Skjoldungeelv in Amdrup Højland leading into Danmark Fjord (please click to enlarge):
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Some recent visitors to the buoys!
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpsc.apl.washington.edu%2Fnorthpole%2FNPEO2015%2F2015cam2_1.jpg&hash=8546e4f7e11b765ea4ad4fae46ba3a30)
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Surprisingly large areas of open water in the Foxe basin for this time of year.
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Here is a hunk of ice near Long. 150 W, Lat. 71 N from the Healy (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,436.100.html). Most of what I've seen on the ship's cam is much thinner and much higher concentration.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficefloe.net%2FAloftcon_Photos%2Falbums%2F2015%2F20150713-2201.jpeg&hash=055a38c31457257d7b0f2e3abf7ca3a1)
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficefloe.net%2FAloftcon_Photos%2Falbums%2F2015%2F20150714-1101.jpeg&hash=473d67e9fcb48fddd3ae43d68281546b)
Pina colada, anyone?
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficefloe.net%2FAloftcon_Photos%2Falbums%2F2015%2F20150714-1101.jpeg&hash=473d67e9fcb48fddd3ae43d68281546b)
Pina colada, anyone?
*THAT* may be how our extent is increasing/persisting - ice disintegrating into the near slush we're looking at in this image.
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The last remains of sea ice in Sea of Okhotsk:
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*THAT* may be how our extent is increasing/persisting - ice disintegrating into the near slush we're looking at in this image.
YES......
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Magnificent exposure of the Foxe basin today (2015-07-20)
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There is no longer any doubt that humans have left our fingerprint on the Arctic ice cap ;D
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmap2.vis.earthdata.nasa.gov%2Fimage-download%3FTIME%3D2015197%26amp%3Bextent%3D-101957.24426331624%2C374140.14948801806%2C82106.75573668376%2C521596.14948801806%26amp%3Bepsg%3D3413%26amp%3Blayers%3DMODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor%2CGraticule%26amp%3Bopacities%3D1%2C1%26amp%3Bworldfile%3Dfalse%26amp%3Bformat%3Dimage%2Fjpeg%26amp%3Bwidth%3D719%26amp%3Bheight%3D576&hash=9355318361396b5dcf52916fe1b48d0e)
EOSDIS Worldview July 16
Latitude=85.1-86.44, Long=126-150
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Magnificent exposure of the Foxe basin today (2015-07-20)
Beautiful blooms on the Eastern shores...
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LOL, Nick. I'd wear gloves if I went that far north (and a hair net) and oversized boots. (no fingerprints, DNA or traceable footprints ;D)
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Good one, Nick. ;D
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Smoke Over the Greenland Sea
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nasa.gov%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fthumbnails%2Fimage%2Fimage07222015_250m.jpg&hash=8195badb7e99f0c9f712a05dd3825ee6)
http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/smoke-over-the-greenland-sea (http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/smoke-over-the-greenland-sea)
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Earth is the target of an alien attack on the polar regions using a giant blow torch:
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Quick it's not too late, we still have time! ;D
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Quick it's not too late, we still have time! ;D
Quick, activate SkyNet! What could go wrong? ;)
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I thought we weren't getting to 1M km2 until September. Apparently we got there about March 1st. ;D
Why were you keeping this from us, Neven?
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I thought it'd be a nice surprise. 8)
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I can already see the claims of a "Recovery".
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Landsat 8 image of the Vilkitsky Strait on July 19th. No need for nuclear icebreakers there this year!
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Algae bloom in Barents Sea.
July 25
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Aliens playing Tic-Tac-Toe over Russia
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Big ol' Floes disintegrating and going "poof" in the Beaufort July 22 on left, 27 on right.
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Big ol' Floes disintegrating and going "poof" in the Beaufort July 22 on right, 27 on left.
Oho! Oops... :D
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The seasonal "Barents Green Garden"
http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r02c05.2015210.aqua.250m (http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/imagery/subsets/?subset=Arctic_r02c05.2015210.aqua.250m)
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Nice shot from 7/29 of Nares Strait showing how the "plug" there has disintegrated, and how the ice is generally heading for the exit.
Notice to the west, land-fast ice breaking off of the coast of Ellesmere into Baffin Bay.
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It appears the persistent high over Greenland and consistent winds blowing north are fighting the current flowing from the CAB to Baffin, slowing there movement of ice to the south. Arctic Bouy program SST maps show cooling south of Nares. Looks like the breakdown of the arch has possibly increased the surface/shallow flow through the straight as SST was higher there before.
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Franz Josef Lands in the Arctic, July 28-30, from LANCE-MODIS System.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi304.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn183%2Fguygee_2008%2F2015-07-28-30_Franz_Josef_Lands-sm.gif&hash=864341903f8fbe0cc1c2d89250ae9d46)
The beautiful swirls that look like "smoke" I surmise is grease ice, produced by fresh water melting off the the glaciers and perhaps the pack edge as well. Looks to be a good indicator of the local ocean currents as well as melting and/or refreezing conditions, depending on its persistence.
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Show some love for the Arctic...
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fabload.de%2Fimg%2Fzcu4b.jpg&hash=d2c57078c547a43f83c96ac1af938655)
Source: NASA Worldview (https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines(hidden)&t=2015-07-31&v=384838.66204532597,-300105.3843007998,1367878.662045326,180150.6156992002)
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Franz Josef Lands in the Arctic, July 28-30, from LANCE-MODIS System.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi304.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fnn183%2Fguygee_2008%2F2015-07-28-30_Franz_Josef_Lands-sm.gif&hash=864341903f8fbe0cc1c2d89250ae9d46)
The beautiful swirls that look like "smoke" I surmise is grease ice, produced by fresh water melting off the the glaciers and perhaps the pack edge as well. Looks to be a good indicator of the local ocean currents as well as melting and/or refreezing conditions, depending on its persistence.
remember the highest resolution on MODIS is 250m per pixel!
This would turn everything in the photo below http://icefloe.net/Aloftcon_Photos/index.php?album=2015&page=5 (http://icefloe.net/Aloftcon_Photos/index.php?album=2015&page=5) into a few amorphously grey pixels
from memory that is how the stuff looked Healy was going through at the time 201507141101
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Thank you Andreas. My eye was initially drawn to the grease ice swirling in the ocean currents, such as the small outflow on the coast above the "heart" in your image, but I now also see the smoke, a diffuse brown haze blowing in the wind, as would be expected.
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sorry, guygee, if I didn't express myself clearly, the point I wanted to make is that what looks like grease ice in a satellite image can be a mix of quite large chunks of ice, broken up bits of floes, which is very different from the grease ice which form when sea water freezes.
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Big ol' Floes disintegrating and going "poof" in the Beaufort July 22 on right, 27 on left.
Looks like you got the dates reversed??
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXnU8IFF.png&hash=1a47d6d6266b08ec2351e06cfb42ca6a)
Santa had a visitor.
Verg ;)
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: helorime July 28, 2015, 05:05:19 AM
Big ol' Floes disintegrating and going "poof" in the Beaufort July 22 on right, 27 on left.
Looks like you got the dates reversed??
yep, fixed. Thanks!
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Another beauty shot from Obuoy9 yesterday. Not even nat geo can do very much better than this.
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXnU8IFF.png&hash=1a47d6d6266b08ec2351e06cfb42ca6a)
Santa had a visitor.
Verg ;)
which seems to have done some tidying: the instruments which had fallen over by the meltchannel at the left edge of the image are gone.
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I bet there's been some talk of this feature of this years melt period, but I haven't been following this as closely as on previous years. The image is contrast and color enhanced image of the top of the Greenland showing what could be a current-driven area of melt. Is the East Greenland Current surfacing already here, is it due continelntal shelf, or what's going on here?
The other one is showing the approximate area on the Bremen Concentration Map for the same day 20150808
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MODIS catched a mini cyclone and a sleeping bear nearby, somewhere in the ESS
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Another lovely pic from #9
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Any guesses for where this is?
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Any guesses for where this is?
https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview/?p=antarctic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines&t=2015-08-17&v=-2800868.2496547773,-768314.2212555143,-1817828.2496547773,-285498.2212555143
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Not fair ! it is the Antarctic image of the day...it is supposed to be winter time over there...
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The ice off the north-east coast of Greenland is giving up (click to animate):
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Not fair ! it is the Antarctic image of the day...it is supposed to be winter time over there...
I know it wasn't fair, I was just excited to see the sun returning south, we'll be able to see the PIG calving area soon, and not have to rely on the occasional Sentinel. If only the clouds cooperate.
From what I could see flipping through the years, it seems routine for the sea ice to be so broken and churned up. They must get a lot of wave / swell action from the huge storms.
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Polar bear doesn't look too upset )
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I wonder if they'll just turn into big Kodiak bears over time.
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I wonder if they'll just turn into big Kodiak bears over time.
Maybe they'll just become Kodak bears, seeing how photogenic they are!
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Well, hello there!
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.nationalgeographic.com%2Fwpf%2Fmedia-live%2Fphotos%2F000%2F915%2Fcache%2Fpolar-bears-waving-alaska_91574_990x742.jpg&hash=a916ad48de995d0da23b396f46546eb8)
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They look so cute and friendly, but they're a cross between a tiger and a pitbull. I'm always amazed at how fast they are.
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They will actually interbreed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly%E2%80%93polar_bear_hybrid
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I'm sickened whenever I see a photo of a sleek (starving) polar bear.
Terry
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Well, hello there!
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.nationalgeographic.com%2Fwpf%2Fmedia-live%2Fphotos%2F000%2F915%2Fcache%2Fpolar-bears-waving-alaska_91574_990x742.jpg&hash=a916ad48de995d0da23b396f46546eb8)
Great photo. I wonder how they get tigers and pit bulls to get together . . . ??? I'd like to see a family photo :)
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I thought "American Gothic" when I saw the photo. I imagined a pitchfork, no wait, a trident, in the bear's paw.
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The "eye" of the Chukchi "hurricane" today
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flance-modis.eosdis.nasa.gov%2Fimagery%2Fsubsets%2F%3Fsubset%3DArctic_r05c03.2015239.terra.1km.jpg&hash=3e9883774391aefb1ac6c8cdae89e619)
I wonder if it would qualify as what is known as Arctic hurricane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_low (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_low)
Today the term is usually reserved for the more vigorous systems that have near-surface winds of at least 17 m/s (38 mph)
So it had
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Yeah, that's 60k/hr and nullschool shows speeds around the level in some places (71.22 N, 170.42 W = 60 k/h). http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-122.90,69.47,289 (http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-122.90,69.47,289)
Not absolutely accurate, but there are probably winds in that ballpark up there.
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Polar Bears are not what they used to be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-Nyt4Bmi8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-Nyt4Bmi8)
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Espen,
that is for sure the most weird behaviour seen for a long time. It is as if the bears are cuddling the poor dogs. They may have lost their own cobs and now turn to the chained-up dogs to seek comfort in their sorrows.
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Espen
Thanks so much, I've never seen anything like that in my life.
The Lions may not (yet) be lying with the lambs, but the bears are certainly cuddling with the dogs!
Can't help but feel a great sadness for beasts acting so far from their own norm.
Terry
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I think I saw playful behavior between species documented in the wild as well - as long as they weren't hunter and prey or direct rivals for the same food.
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Polar Bears are not what they used to be:
Thanks for that most interesting link Espen, which eventually took me to a more recent Polar bear video. If you edit out the 's' at the end of https in the link YouTube provides the video will embed itself. A bit like this:
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ITc3Uclb40#)
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Polar Bears are not what they used to be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-Nyt4Bmi8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-Nyt4Bmi8)
The key observation to make here is that the bears in the video are in excellent condition. Grizzly bears in coastal Alaska and British Columbia can also be extremely tolerant of other bears and human observers when they are well-fed on abundant salmon. Aggressive predatory behavior increases drastically with hunger and reduced resources.
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Polar Bears are not what they used to be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-Nyt4Bmi8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-Nyt4Bmi8)
The key observation to make here is that the bears in the video are in excellent condition. Grizzly bears in coastal Alaska and British Columbia can also be extremely tolerant of other bears and human observers when they are well-fed on abundant salmon. Aggressive predatory behavior increases drastically with hunger and reduced resources.
What do you mean?
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Polar Bears are not what they used to be:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-Nyt4Bmi8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-Nyt4Bmi8)
The key observation to make here is that the bears in the video are in excellent condition. Grizzly bears in coastal Alaska and British Columbia can also be extremely tolerant of other bears and human observers when they are well-fed on abundant salmon. Aggressive predatory behavior increases drastically with hunger and reduced resources.
What do you mean?
I think Magma is saying that the bears are often nice so long as they're not hungry, so it's hard to say from (just) this video that they're in trouble.
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since the picture is more than 8 years old, still not sure what it means... and it might be older than that. I remember reading the original article back then, it was about the psychology of how animals recognize a "play attitude"
[just to be clear, I was referring to the earlier post, not the most recent one... my laptop hadn't loaded the recent one, apparently it's a bit slow...]
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Greenland Sea Ice (http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/sea-ice-in-the-greenland-sea)
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Another picture from 8 years ago?
Terry
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Negative, it's from Aug 24. (Click the text -- it's a link.)
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Negative, it's from Aug 24. (Click the text -- it's a link.)
I recognise that the article is dated the 24th, but I don't recall seeing that much bare rock in NW Greenland this year. It's no biggy, but I check Flade Isblink on a daily basis & that picture, with the expanse of bare rock while Independence Fjord is frozen was unusual, to say the least.
Terry
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Ok, reading the blurb, it's not from Aug. 24th. It's from July 16th, 2015. Or so it says...
As the northern hemisphere experiences the heat of summer, ice moves and melts in the Arctic waters and the far northern lands surrounding it. The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) aboard NASA’s Aqua satellite captured this true-color image of sea ice off Greenland on July 16, 2015.
Large chunks of melting sea ice can be seen in the sea ice off the coast, and to the south spirals of ice have been shaped by the winds and currents that move across the Greenland Sea. Along the Greenland coast, cold, fresh melt water from the glaciers flows out to the sea, as do newly calved icebergs. Frigid air from interior Greenland pushes the ice away from the shoreline, and the mixing of cold water and air allows some sea ice to be sustained even at the height of summer.
According to observations from satellites, 2015 is on track to be another low year for arctic summer sea ice cover. The past ten years have included nine of the lowest ice extents on record. The annual minimum typically occurs in late August or early September. The amount of Arctic sea ice cover has been dropping as global temperatures rise. The Arctic is two to three times more sensitive to temperature changes as the Earth as a whole.
Image Credit: NASA/Jeff Schmaltz, MODIS Land Rapid Response Team, NASA GSFC
http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/sea-ice-in-the-greenland-sea (http://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/sea-ice-in-the-greenland-sea)
I double-checked using Aqua on Worldview, and it seems to check out (att).
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If you zoom in to the quickly receding calving front at Zachariae Isstrom you can verify that the image is from this year...
Compare to this image:
http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,400.msg55043.html#msg55043 (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,400.msg55043.html#msg55043)
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Volcanic lakes near Mýrsalsjökull Glacier, Iceland.
http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/aerial-iceland-colors/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ng%2Fphotography%2Fphoto-of-the-day+%28National+Geographic+Photo+of+the+Day%29 (http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/aerial-iceland-colors/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ng%2Fphotography%2Fphoto-of-the-day+%28National+Geographic+Photo+of+the+Day%29)
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Thanks all
My bad
Terry
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One strange thing about this season is the remaining sea ice in Cumberland Sound / Baffin Island, relatively south at +66?
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Sentinel-1 multitemporal image of the Jakonbshaven Isfjord in Greenland:
R=19.8.2015
G=31.8.2015
B=12.9.2015
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Climate what climate?
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oh my god that poor bear!!! :(
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To be fair, you can't tell about climate from a single bear. There have always been sick and old polar bears.
(Yes, I'm very worried about human-caused climate change. There is plenty of evidence. It's just that this is not it.)
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(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/72fa67c0c4c18674a36c14acd25ab4fc99ae9849/0_112_3456_2073/master/3456.jpg?w=1920&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=bd2c5e385c17424f3e9844d0e8ebd6d4)
This photo of the recent solar eclipse over Svalbard won first prize in the Insight Astronomy Photographer of the Year competition for 2015
http://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/gallery/2015/sep/18/insight-astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2015-winners-in-pictures (http://www.theguardian.com/science/across-the-universe/gallery/2015/sep/18/insight-astronomy-photographer-of-the-year-2015-winners-in-pictures)
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To be fair, you can't tell about climate from a single bear. There have always been sick and old polar bears.
(Yes, I'm very worried about human-caused climate change. There is plenty of evidence. It's just that this is not it.)
"One man's pain is another man's gain" Bluefin tuna" caugth for the first time in Norway in 30 years not climate related:
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Just a coincidence. Sorry for for the inappropriate relation.
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Red Fox with corpse of an Arctic Fox. This is the winner of the 2015 Wildlife Photographer of the Year competition.
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My personal favourite is the three Red-footed Falcons.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34520185 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34520185)
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This still is from the May 2014 high resolution video of a calving event at Jakobshavn. The whole 11 minute youTube is very much watching -- be sure to use full screen mode.
http://jasonbox.net/news/ (http://jasonbox.net/news/)
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See the photos at the end of the Arcticle.
Weather Man Vyacheslav Korotki
http://www.newyorker.com/project/portfolio/weather-man?mbid=social_tumblr (http://www.newyorker.com/project/portfolio/weather-man?mbid=social_tumblr)
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Close encounter of the special kind:
A Lynx and a Wolverine in the same image. Northern Norway.
Photo: Stein Halvorsen
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A Lynx and a Wolverine in the same image
Well, that is what you get setting out meat in winter bait traps. Here is what you get just providing habitat.
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Gljúfrabúi Canyon, Iceland
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New year greetings from Wannsee (Berlin Germany) picture taken close to the ferry port December 31 2015 (either 8 months late or +4 months early?):
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pr80O5UdIE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pr80O5UdIE)
That's where sea ice gone
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Two more Kodak bears.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/polar-bear-cub-clings-mom-butt_us_569fe8cde4b076aadcc4fe6c?cps=gravity_2246_-6915626495656214302 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/polar-bear-cub-clings-mom-butt_us_569fe8cde4b076aadcc4fe6c?cps=gravity_2246_-6915626495656214302)
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Light pillars over Alaska.
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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160208.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160208.html)
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Light pillars can even draw a map in the sky:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2016/01/16/optical_phenomenon_draws_a_map_of_a_city_in_the_sky.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2016/01/16/optical_phenomenon_draws_a_map_of_a_city_in_the_sky.html)
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Sentinel 3A dancing with the aurora borealis over Finland:
http://youtu.be/cQ6gT4v_nzg (http://youtu.be/cQ6gT4v_nzg)
Apparently "The Sentinel 3 Synthetic Aperture Radar Altimeter is better than the CryoSat altimeter"
P.S. The embedded video seems not to function. Here's the URL: https://youtu.be/cQ6gT4v_nzg (https://youtu.be/cQ6gT4v_nzg)
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Sharp boundary between fast ice and not-so-fast ice in the Laptev Sea in this MODIS-Aqua image.
(click to enlarge)
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Care of Climate Reanalyzer - This I think is a remarkable image. It's Arctic temperature anomalies predicted about 42 hours out.
Most of Atlantic side of the arctic, from 90E to 90W, all the way from the pole to Iceland is red.
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Antarctica, but still...
Sentinel 3 image. Click through for a description.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1663/24988879283_211fcde2e5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/E5bxdg)
Ice cracked (https://flic.kr/p/E5bxdg) by European Space Agency (https://www.flickr.com/photos/europeanspaceagency/), on Flickr
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Dayum. 2-4KM wide? Probably close to 500M deep.
That's the best part of a 1000KM long, I'll wager.
[edit: reevaluation - probably not that deep, but still, very old, probably fairly thick ice breaking off the shelf]
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Phoenix aurora over Iceland.
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12745920_2130278890444432_2595705179409032723_n.jpg?oh=eb2c758b5869b22b920125f98f090edb&oe=574BD95C)
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160316.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160316.html)
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An arch in Bering Strait on March 14.
(https://s3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/gZhsxduvjzS_Rx3g3gLo4g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/mic_26/c44fa9d6db0a3bac928b5ffee38d2bec)
From https://news.yahoo.com/2-000-square-miles-ice-152500577.html (https://news.yahoo.com/2-000-square-miles-ice-152500577.html)
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Thin ice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq9-haTYeUM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq9-haTYeUM)
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http://map2.vis.earthdata.nasa.gov/image-download?TIME=2016088&extent=-3576832,1432064,-3127296,1768960&epsg=3413&layers=MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines&opacities=1,1&worldfile=false&format=image/jpeg&width=1756&height=1316 (http://map2.vis.earthdata.nasa.gov/image-download?TIME=2016088&extent=-3576832,1432064,-3127296,1768960&epsg=3413&layers=MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines&opacities=1,1&worldfile=false&format=image/jpeg&width=1756&height=1316)
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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160404.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160404.html)
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Beaufort captured on Worldview, using brightness temperature band 31-night, with the palette compressed to -50 to 0C. Darker is colder.
Note the streams of higher temperature being swept clockwise to the west carried along by the flow around the high pressure currently over the arctic.
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http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160408.html (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap160408.html)
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Photo : Daniel Beltra
http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/08/see-dramatic-views-of-climate-change-from-above/?utm_content=buffer263f3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://proof.nationalgeographic.com/2016/04/08/see-dramatic-views-of-climate-change-from-above/?utm_content=buffer263f3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Meltwater pools in a low area of the Greenland ice sheet, southeast of Ilulissat. August 2014.
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The animation below shows the details that are actually available from Lance-Modis for day 106 of this year at their top resolution true color (after some processing). The second frame flashes in cloud cover taken from bands 367. Click to see at full size
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The northern most piece of real land Kaffeklubben Ø at 83,39+ is clearly seen these days even in Modis Resolution:
http://www.arcticthule.com/about/kaffeklubben (http://www.arcticthule.com/about/kaffeklubben)
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Ice don't want swim to arctic this year.
(https://pp.vk.me/c631824/v631824134/299ba/g6RA2cKcUYs.jpg)
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Ice don't want swim to arctic this year.
(https://pp.vk.me/c631824/v631824134/299ba/g6RA2cKcUYs.jpg)
Where is this?
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Ice don't want swim to arctic this year.
(https://pp.vk.me/c631824/v631824134/299ba/g6RA2cKcUYs.jpg)
Where is this?
Pretty sure it's Kostroma near where the river of the same name runs into the Volga.
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It is Veliky Ustyug. 60°45'21.7"N 46°19'31.7"E Yesterday it were even airstrikes on ice hummocks
Pretty sure it's Kostroma near where the river of the same name runs into the Volga.
Ice hummocks is a problem of rivers, that flow north, Volga is flow south.
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I posted this on the Barneo thread just now but then it occurred to me that it might really belong here.
http://www.11alive.com/sports/arkansas-man-wins-north-pole-marathon/144871437 (http://www.11alive.com/sports/arkansas-man-wins-north-pole-marathon/144871437)
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Full details: http://www.npmarathon.com/ (http://www.npmarathon.com/)
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http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36162115 (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36162115)
I thought it was worth posting as it looks like there will be more images to come :)
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Yesterdays image.
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While going over yesterday’s MODIS tiles, this picture struck me as unusual:
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It is a detail of a large icecap on October Revolution Island, Severnaya Zemlya.
It looks much like a ‘Jokullhlaup’.
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It looks much like a ‘Jokullhlaup’.
Now there is a term that could use some more background. What is the etymology (translated). How frequently do these sub-glacial water flows occur? Are they common, uncommon, rare! Are they known with particular conditions or causes? It is definitely a noteworthy sight!
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You wouldn't see a jokullhlaup from the air. Reason being, it's under the glacier and you're above it. Pretty sure that what you'd expect to see would be the area in front of the calving front being swept clear by the flowing water - not what you see here.
What you see here is that the glacier surface looks a bit darker than the surrounding ice cap and sea ice. Far from uncommon, you can see the same thing on many of the Greenland glaciers (and indeed on this one in previous years). Not sure why, could be the snow melts back earlier, could be the surface is rougher, could be something to do with the elevation and the angle of the satellite.
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While going over yesterday’s MODIS tiles, this picture struck me as unusual:
It is a detail of a large icecap on October Revolution Island, Severnaya Zemlya.
It looks much like a ‘Jokullhlaup’.
That's a surging glacier on the Vavilov Ice Cap.
Chris Hormann has been following the surge on his blog:
http://blog.imagico.de/ice-retreat-and-advance-on-severnaya-zemlya/ (http://blog.imagico.de/ice-retreat-and-advance-on-severnaya-zemlya/)
http://blog.imagico.de/ice-and-wind-on-severnaya-zemlya/ (http://blog.imagico.de/ice-and-wind-on-severnaya-zemlya/)
http://blog.imagico.de/early-spring-in-severnaya-zemlya/ (http://blog.imagico.de/early-spring-in-severnaya-zemlya/)
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It looks much like a ‘Jokullhlaup’.
Now there is a term that could use some more background. What is the etymology (translated). How frequently do these sub-glacial water flows occur? Are they common, uncommon, rare! Are they known with particular conditions or causes? It is definitely a noteworthy sight!
"Jökulhlaup" is from Icelandic, combination of "jökull" (glacier) and "hlaup" (run) - direct translation is glacier-run. They are fairly common in Iceland, where all the larger icecaps are sitting on active volcanoes. Geothermal activity causes regular (every few years) flows in some areas that are comparatively harmless, while eruptions can cause very destructive flows. These flows do not cause any significant changes on the surface of the glacier.
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Here is a cloud free Sentinel 2A image, scaled to 40 m/pix, of the end of the MacKenzie delta. River water seems to be streaming over the ice.
Note: this is a false color image with blue, red and near-IR specral bands. Similar to MODIS 7-2-1 composites.
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Image from the Suomi-NPP satellite carrying the VIIRS instrument.
Courtesy of the University of Alaska
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search%5Bsensors%5D%5B3%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B16%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B1%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B15%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B17%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B3%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B18%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B10%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B11%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B9%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B8%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B12%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B13%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B14%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B6%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B5%5D=1&search%5Bstart%5D=&search%5Bend%5D=&commit=Search (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&search%5Bsensors%5D%5B3%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B16%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B1%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B15%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B17%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B3%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B18%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B10%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B11%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B9%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B8%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B12%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B13%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B14%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B6%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B5%5D=1&search%5Bstart%5D=&search%5Bend%5D=&commit=Search)
Wrangel island looks like it's looking at us.
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The ice is looking back with sadness
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The ice is looking back with sadness
Personally: I really dig that eyebrow..... ;)
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Is that mascara running from the other eye down the coast? Let nobody ask Mara out on a date I say!
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Image from the Suomi-NPP satellite carrying the VIIRS instrument.
Wow, I got almost the same image from the EAVIIRS instrument (Enhanced Audio-Visible Infrared Imaging Radiometer Suite). Sea ice is returning.
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Image from the Suomi-NPP satellite carrying the VIIRS instrument.
Wow, I got almost the same image from the EAVIIRS instrument (Enhanced Audio-Visible Infrared Imaging Radiometer Suite). Sea ice is returning.
I believe they are from the same satellite. :) mind sharing a link to your resource?
I'll have to disagree on the sea ice returning. Looks the the Chukchi is getting massacred. Perhaps the winds swing around and stop the progression, have to watch and see I guess.
2 day loop of the Chukchi
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop.asp?data_folder=npp_viirs_arctic/alaska_chukchi_sea_true_color_viirs&width=467&height=800 (http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop.asp?data_folder=npp_viirs_arctic/alaska_chukchi_sea_true_color_viirs&width=467&height=800)
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This is stretching a point, but after you've spend too much time visualizing the numbers, they start to grow on you . . .
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What a perfect "little" cyclone off the end of Nova Zemlya...
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The East Siberian Sea looks spectacular today...
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Not an image so much as an animation.
The decline of old ice in the Arctic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aUg6FzoUvVg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aUg6FzoUvVg#)
Anyone know how to get this link to work as an embedded image?
Thanks Jim.
Answer, not an image but a link.
Can't find the original FB video at NOAA. The one above is end of March.
The FB video is weekly.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-lachmN5YO4#)
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Anyone know how to get this link to work as an embedded image?
Here's my short term version of much the same thing:
http://youtu.be/E-6uPrJJl6Y (http://youtu.be/E-6uPrJJl6Y)
Just remove the 's' from "https" in the link YouTube provides. Is there a YouTube edition of the one you referenced?
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From the northwest passage
Images are one day apart
June 5
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June 6
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lovely clear image of the fast ice in the ESS breaking up.
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Posted a larger image inclusive of this on the melt season thread. Lovely is a matter of context, but I get your meaning. The old region - from Laptev to Chukchi - is in a serious world of hurt.
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the ice bridge in Prince Regent inlet has broken up
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Blue ice in Amundsen gulf beginning to break up!
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12 Hr loop of the north Akaka coast using VIIRS imagery. Lots of swirls.
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/search?utf8= (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/search?utf8=)✓&search%5Bsensors%5D%5B3%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B16%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B1%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B15%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B17%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B3%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B18%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B10%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B11%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B9%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B8%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B12%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B13%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B14%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B6%5D=1&search%5Bfeeds%5D%5B5%5D=1&search%5Bstart%5D=&search%5Bend%5D=&commit=Search
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Blue ice well and truly broken up right in the middle of the ESS fast ice.
I seriously doubt the statement that the fast ice in this area is thick this year. There is no reason for it to be exceptionally thick. It is first year ice made during a winter when temperatures in general have been higher than normal.
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Blue ice well and truly broken up right in the middle of the ESS fast ice.
I seriously doubt the statement that the fast ice in this area is thick this year. There is no reason for it to be exceptionally thick. It is first year ice made during a winter when temperatures in general have been higher than normal.
thanks, i think the ice thickness and therefore volume calculations need an overhaul. i posted quite a few time my doubts as to their accuracy, i think that they rely to much on the past more than on really actual measurement and calculations and the ESS part was probably an assumption based on the wind drift out from beaufort. we shall see but we should observe the real results to the predicted and reported ice thickness very carefully,
another indicator that something is not quite right and what initially raised my suspicion, is that different volume and thickness images show totally contradictory results, at times almost 100% the contrary.
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Ice breaking kayaks(?) and contrails(?) at kimmirut 😮
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I found several brownish lines on the blue ice between Victoria Island and the mainland. A few of them connect directly to Cambridge Bay (a settlement). Do they still drive on the ice in June or does the dirt remains until the ice fully melts?
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Is that a rainbow? Icebow?
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W_f_C, I believe the correct term is a fogbow, and in this case, arctic fogbow.
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There's a nice animation awaiting some clever fool who wants to combine a few webcam shots from barrow from over the last 4 hours.
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/ (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/)
The ice off-shore is starting to open up nicely.
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There's a nice animation awaiting some clever fool who wants to combine a few webcam shots from barrow from over the last 4 hours.
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/ (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/)
The ice off-shore is starting to open up nicely.
Why not use their existing animations?
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/current-1_day_animation.mp4 (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/current-1_day_animation.mp4)
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Why not use their existing animations?
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/current-1_day_animation.mp4 (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/current-1_day_animation.mp4)
They're yesterday.
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Why not use their existing animations?
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/current-1_day_animation.mp4 (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/current-1_day_animation.mp4)
They're yesterday.
Not any more!
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/dragonfly/movies/2016/6/16/7483/7483_radar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images_2016-6-16_1-day-animation.mp4 (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/dragonfly/movies/2016/6/16/7483/7483_radar-uaf-barrow-seaice-images_2016-6-16_1-day-animation.mp4)
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From the EGU cryosphere blog:
A curious experiment is taking place in Greenland. An experiment involving very large balloons and – of course – a lot of snow. Read on to discover why balloons are an environmentally friendly tool when constructing an ice core drill camp.
http://blogs.egu.eu/divisions/cr/2016/06/17/image-of-the-week-ballooning-on-the-ice/ (http://blogs.egu.eu/divisions/cr/2016/06/17/image-of-the-week-ballooning-on-the-ice/)
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Sorry, couldn't help myself after seeing the first attached picture.
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Detail of the Kolyma River estuary as seen on 2016/6/6 by Sentinel 2A in visible light.
Click for the full picture in 40m/pix resolution.
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Floes have been breaking off regularly in Kane basin for the last month and now we can see the beginning of the break up of Nares strait from the north end.
Sorry this ended up being not what I intended at all. There were supposed to be two pictures not one. the picture showing is south of the Petermann glacier not the north end of the strait.
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:o
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-21/acclaimed-italian-composer-plays-floating-in-arctic-ice/7529974 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-21/acclaimed-italian-composer-plays-floating-in-arctic-ice/7529974)
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OK! this is the picture of the beginning of the break up in the north end of Nares strait.
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Ice on the (fast) move in Hudson bay. Images one day apart, 21st and 22nd June. EOSDIS 10km resolution.
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Zoom in Zoom out
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A smashing time in Nares strait
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http://fokionzissiadis.com/ (http://fokionzissiadis.com/)
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Reminds me of mammatus clouds of an approaching mesocyclone. :)
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interesting optical illusion, looks like a huge incoming tsunami :-)
melting is still approximately 1 month ahead of other years.
would make a nice image for real life rorschach tests :-)
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would make a nice image for real life rorschach tests :-)
Or a nasty jigsaw!
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would make a nice image for real life rorschach tests :-)
Or a nasty jigsaw!
I felt bad once leaving a jigsaw for my parents to do: so I glued the finished product to a canvas... well: it's half finished...with missing pieces and a few random ones yet to be glued in a big gap!
I like it anyway!
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The webcam at Barrow has not updated since June 24 😮
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Longyearbyen working just fine 😌
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first i though: where's that ice coming from a those temps ?
but it's not an ice floe, it's that cloud that is mirroring in the water that is flat like a mirror :-)
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The algae bloom north of Scandinavia.
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The algae bloom north of Scandinavia.
I was just looking at that self-same thing on Worldview, wondering if I should toss it up.
Thank you for doing so.
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first i though: where's that ice coming from a those temps ?
but it's not an ice floe, it's that cloud that is mirroring in the water that is flat like a mirror :-)
Friggin 'eck... i never really liked photos much before until NOW!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
** Chido Amiga :D **
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The algae bloom north of Scandinavia.
Yes, its mostly a coccolithophore Emiliania huxleyi
e.g. http://www.soes.soton.ac.uk/staff/tt/eh/satbloompics.html (http://www.soes.soton.ac.uk/staff/tt/eh/satbloompics.html)
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Kane basin shattered, we must be days away from transport in Nares strait.
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Clear skies over Nares strait.
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Kane basin is on the move as is the ice bridge facing the Petermann fjord.
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Are the folk caught gathering on the beach by the Barrow webcam looking at a polar bear.... or is it just an ice floe.... or, looking closely, could it be two bears?
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Are the folk caught gathering on the beach by the Barrow webcam looking at a polar bear.... or is it just an ice floe.... or, looking closely, could it be two bears?
ice floe, you can download the image for better ( larger ) view
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then there is the Estonian Polar Bear:
https://www.instagram.com/p/8DtB0vsZow/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/8DtB0vsZow/)
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screen shot from Polar View (http://www.polarview.aq/images/105_S1jpgfull/S1A_EW_GRDM_1SDH_20160716T130941_468A_N_1.final.jpg). I presume this is brash ice ("Accumulations of floating ice made up of fragments not more than 2 meters across, the wreckage of other forms of ice.") in the Atlantic sector. (1) Red line is 82oN. (2) Cross lines are 82oN and 40oE and shows ice cap edge.
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Transport!
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Lots of smoke and broken ice
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Ice in Petermann fjord broken up more or less all the way back to the calving line.
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Yamal Peninsula
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"Bubbles of gas have created wobbly waterbed-like patches of ground in the Yamal Peninsula after unseasonably high temperatures sparked bizarre underfoot conditions.
The fun-looking patches of bubbling land were discovered by researchers Alexander Sokolov and Dorothee Ehrich. Some 15 examples of the phenomena were discovered in the area, according to The Siberian Times.
When the patches were punctured, methane and carbon dioxide gases were released, according to the pair. The researchers theorize that unusually high temperatures in the area may have caused permafrost to thaw, releasing gases and forming the bubbles."
Source:
https://www.rt.com/viral/352688-siberia-earth-wobbling-methane/ (https://www.rt.com/viral/352688-siberia-earth-wobbling-methane/)
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the remains of "big block" still a decent sized chunk of ice and probably one of the largest distinct blocks in the arctic today.
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Svalbard North East Island in the sunshine...
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North Nares strait and Petermann fjord 2016 07 23
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Svalbard North East Island in the sunshine...
And surrounded by algal blooms?
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Svalbard North East Island in the sunshine...
And surrounded by algal blooms?
And large amounts of silt from melt.
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Weird ring pattern on some ice on an island east of Zachariae Isstrøm. Maybe some geologist or biologist can explain the growth pattern ;)
Best visible after zooming in a little.
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Weird ring pattern on some ice on an island east of Zachariae Isstrøm. Maybe some geologist or biologist can explain the growth pattern ;)
Best visible after zooming in a little.
Similar patterns are frequently seen in Icelandic glaciers, where the black lines are layers of volcanic ash being exposed as older ice melts away.
Perhaps the image shows layers of windborne ash and dust that deposits annually on top of each winters snowfall?
The glacier on the image seems to be disappearing fast, the only "fresh" ice being in a small area at the very top.
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Yamal Peninsula
"Bubbles of gas have created wobbly waterbed-like patches of ground in the Yamal Peninsula after unseasonably high temperatures sparked bizarre underfoot conditions.
Source:
https://www.rt.com/viral/352688-siberia-earth-wobbling-methane/ (https://www.rt.com/viral/352688-siberia-earth-wobbling-methane/)
That image and link should be posted to every denier.
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Someone will have to move the camera on the Helheim Glacier soon :(
It's been a conveyor belt all season
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This reminds me of The Donald's hairpiece - the way it moves as a unit when the wind gets a hold of it:
(needs a click)
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Anyone for a side bet on the date for the last bit of fast ice stuck on the Belgica shallows to start moving? :)
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Nice pic today from Healy cam
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NSIDC sea ice extent on 08/08/16 has a "ghostly" look to it !
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Hanna Shoal was visible this spring in some of my animations in the Home Brew thread causing open water by blocking the large ice floes that moved with the extended Beaufort Gyre. Now the floes have turned to rubble, but the grounded ice is still there, visible as a bright sport in the Chukchi Sea.
Must click to run the animation.
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A paragraph from the PEW Charitable Trust's Obama Administration Protects Areas of the Arctic Ocean from Oil, Gas Development (http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/analysis/2015/01/27/obama-administration-protects-areas-of-the-arctic-ocean-from-oil-gas-development) article:
Hanna Shoal Area
Hanna Shoal, in waters about 100 miles northwest of the northernmost tip of Alaska, rises from the surrounding seafloor to about 65 feet below the surface. About 30 miles wide, the shoal traps and anchors winter sea ice. The shallow shelf diverts warm water flowing from the Bering Strait farther north, allowing sea ice floes to its south to endure longer into the summer. Polynyas, or persistent areas of open water, are found between Hanna Shoal and the coast of Alaska and are important for marine life in winter and spring. Walruses and bearded seals feed on the many seafloor animals on Hanna Shoal, and recent satellite-tracking data demonstrate the shoal’s importance for walrus foraging and resting, especially during summer. Other species that migrate through or are found on Hanna Shoal include ringed and ribbon seals, polar bears, and beluga and bowhead whales.
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Hycom shows the Arctic is having a heart attack. (needs a click) Actually, the animation is out of sequence.
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Perfectly normal conditions for O-Buoy 14. I'm sure all that white stuff blowing around is snow and not sea spray.
http://obuoy.datatransport.org/data/obuoy/var/plots/buoy14/camera/webcam.jpg (http://obuoy.datatransport.org/data/obuoy/var/plots/buoy14/camera/webcam.jpg)
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Image from Sentinel dramatically illustrating what's happening under the clouds along the Atlantic front of the arctic, when ice reaches that warmer water. Image from 21-August-2016.
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One wonders whether the crew of this Chinese flagged vessel gets shore-leave at Port of Barrow Ak? 😮
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captured for posterity, 1KM resolution, 8/26/2016, the "Atlantic Front"
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I like to watch the grass grow in Barrow. Not very green this year ( so far )
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Looks like they wont be needing the lawn mower this year!
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Posted by Cate in the NWP cruising thread.
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Posted by Cate in the NWP cruising thread.
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Nice pic :P
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Looks like a good candidate for a caption competition..... "Looking for the next meal" perhaps.
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Looks like a good candidate for a caption competition..... "Looking for the next meal" perhaps.
Plenty of tasty homo sapiens onboard the cruise ship!
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Probably just as well the PBear cannot read the papers, else she would be underneath that thing jamming ice into the cooling inlets, stopping the mains and aux, letting the bilge pumps fuze and gratefully watching the whole great greenhouse gas emitting monstrosity and all it contains slip promptly beneath the waves never to return.
Cause and effect, all in the same pix. Sad. We're a bunch of cretins aren't we (present company accepted, of course!)?
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"..they've even got lifeboats!"
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The Polar Ocean Challenge successfully completed their quest to sail the North East Passage and North West Passage in one season. The North West Passage was completed in an astonishing 14 days due to the fact that it was almost totally ice free. They encountered ice only twice in their 1800 mile NW Passage part of the voyage. This highlights an extraordinary loss of sea ice in the Arctic in the 30 years that David Hempleman-Adams has been coming to the area. He said, ‘ whilst we are all delighted to have succeeded, it is extremely worrying to see this lack of ice so starkly ‘ The objective of the expedition was to raise awareness of the change in the fragile climate in the Arctic. They left Lancaster Sound at the end of the NW Passage at 19.18 UTC on 12th September and are headed for Greenland.
Here is one of the last images of ice, in Lancaster Sound, 11th Sept, that the Northabout encountered.
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A piece of art, sculpted by the elements.
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Almost full moon from O-Buoy 14 in the M'Clure Strait.
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September 18, 2016
Longyearbyen
Temp 10°
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Lots and lots of thick smoke
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Pretty patterns in the new ice forming at the western entrance to McClure Strait:
http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2016/09/is-the-northwest-passage-freezing-or-melting/ (http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2016/09/is-the-northwest-passage-freezing-or-melting/)
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One wonders whether the crew of this Chinese flagged vessel gets shore-leave at Port of Barrow Ak?
I thought it looked like the Korean icebreaker Araon:
http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2016/08/crystal-serenity-sets-sail-for-the-northwest-passage/#Aug-24 (http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2016/08/crystal-serenity-sets-sail-for-the-northwest-passage/#Aug-24)
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It's a bit chilly to keep the door open, even if it's only the mud room :o
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It's a bit chilly to keep the door open, even if it's only the mud room :o
they perhaps want a warmer climate up there and try to support warming with a bit of heating energy blowing out for nothing LOL with a prise of seriousness. what a horrible example to permanently leave doors open during the heating season ( probably 12 months up there )
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It's a bit chilly to keep the door open, even if it's only the mud room :o
they perhaps want a warmer climate up there and try to support warming with a bit of heating energy blowing out for nothing LOL with a prise of seriousness. what a horrible example to permanently leave doors open during the heating season ( probably 12 months up there )
It's a hobby of mine to watch Barrow. This guy has his mud door open for about 3/4 of the year ( swear it's true !!! ). I also like to watch the grass grow in Barrow because I think it's a very quick and easy way to see if they're having a sunny, warm year. This year the grass didn't get very green, not because it wasn't warm enough but because of the lack of sunlight. Clouds make a huge difference and you see it not just the ice, but in the grass and wildlife
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I am sad to report the death of researcher Gordon Hamilton this weekend in an accident while working in Antarctica.
More information in the above post
Gordon Hamilton with an automated laser scanning system installed to monitor Helheim Glacier, in Southeast Greenland. July 2015.
Credit: Adam LeWinter
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I am sad to report the death of researcher Gordon Hamilton this weekend in an accident while working in Antarctica.
More information in the above post
Gordon Hamilton with an automated laser scanning system installed to monitor Helheim Glacier, in Southeast Greenland. July 2015.
Credit: Adam LeWinter
I found it poignant that Dr Hamilton was from Dundee, a city with an outstanding history of polar exploration and exploit. He certainly did that heritage proud.
Here is The Courier, the leading paper in Dundee:
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/303984/dundee-born-antarctic-scientist-dies-plunging-crevasse/ (https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/303984/dundee-born-antarctic-scientist-dies-plunging-crevasse/)
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I've been reading this forum (in lurk mode) for a long time, but only registered today. I'd just downloaded PhotoScan on my phone and pulled out some old photos and I came across this one of me standing on ice floes at Prudhoe Bay in Alaska (I think the date is around June 25th in either 1997 or 1998) - it's hard to tell from Worldview but would there still have been ice that close to shore in June 2016?
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I've been reading this forum (in lurk mode) for a long time, but only registered today. I'd just downloaded PhotoScan on my phone and pulled out some old photos and I came across this one of me standing on ice floes at Prudhoe Bay in Alaska (I think the date is around June 25th in either 1997 or 1998) - it's hard to tell from Worldview but would there still have been ice that close to shore in June 2016?
Welcome timbucks. great photo!
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Not my shot, and I foolishly neglected to note the source. Can anyone ID place, photographer?
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Nice image, Cate!
It was taken by Patty Waymire and published in a National Geographic feature on climate change:
http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/stories/climate-change-focus/ (http://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/stories/climate-change-focus/)
"A solitary bear sits on the edge of one of the Barter Islands."
Barter Island (singular, according to Wikipedia) is on the Arctic Coast of Alaska:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barter_Island (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barter_Island)
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Thanks so much, slow wing. I knew someone here would know. The ASIF is the living, breathing encyclopedia of the Arctic. :D
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Nice photo, Cate.
Here's a slightly mad smiley of 10hPa winds today. I guess these are pretty normal situations when the seasons change, but the news item should be the season change is somewhat late on large areas on NH. (to Stupid Questions section, isn't this the Upper Stratosphere Night Jet forming?)
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This fall the stratosphere has been hammered by both planetary waves #1 and #2. The stratospheric polar vortex split at the end of October and has been displaced from the pole by wave #1 activity for several weeks. I have been watching the stratosphere for several years so I don't know what's normal based on personal observation but papers and web sites by stratospheric experts I have read tell me that this is anything but normal.
The stratosphere has warmed not just at 10 mb but also down to 70mb. -46C at Barrow at 70mb is outrageously hot, especially when you consider the what the potential temperature is. These temperatures are far warmer than the tropics or normal summer temperatures for Barrow at 70mb. This heat is caused by waves breaking into the stratosphere from the troposphere. The slow rising up of warm air from the troposphere to the stratosphere in the tropics over Indonesia produces stratospheric temperatures of negative 80. The lack of sea ice over the Barents and Kara seas is interacting with the atmospheric circulation to displace the stratospheric polar vortex towards Siberia.
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Below is a polar image from Yesterday from 'Wokingham Weather' here in the UK;
http://www.woksat.info/wos.html (http://www.woksat.info/wos.html)
It highlights just how messed up the pack is? It looks as though a Crackopalypse event has already ripped through the pack ( I know it hasn't) . It set me wondering just how much a Full Moon Tidal Bulge would impact such ice? Will it 'snap' the connections between floes further weakening the bond each month making the 'grenade/choc bar' pack easier to disrupt?
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A series of beautiful arctic photos:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/jan/19/what-should-be-pristine-white-is-littered-with-blue-timo-liebers-arctic-photography (https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2017/jan/19/what-should-be-pristine-white-is-littered-with-blue-timo-liebers-arctic-photography)
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From HYCOM (https://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hycomARC/navo/arcticictnowcast.gif), we have an image of the green Arctic monster - a GAM, not to be confused with a GAC. Complete with a blue eye, small dark blue tongue and horn on its snout. Is that a red and yellow scarf around its head and neck? (it is cold out there). The rest of the GAM is obviously hiding beneath Greenland and the CAA.
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Looks like a boars head.
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A pterodactyl head with an elephant's trunk.
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Maybe a Tapir with it's nose in the Fram?
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goes into this direction LOL
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It looks a bit like a dragon king.... As if this "freezing" season wasn't scary enough!
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OK...it's not the Arctic but it's still one very cool picture.....Lake Charlevoix, Michigan. The man is standing on 2 to 2 1/2 inches of ice that formed on two successive, wind free days of 6F weather. The water is six feet deep.
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those are almost cozy temps for end of january :-)
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to be continued, that's very warm indeed, not seen this as far back as i remember and certainly not for much longer than an hour or two.
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And even warmer now. -1.7C
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And even warmer now. -1.7C
yeah, thanks, as an old "snowman" from the swiss alps i can even see how heavy the snow has become.
nice weekend @all
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sun is up in the kara sea as per these days (depending on where exactly )
why is that worth to mention? because half of the kara is black water and if that remains like that for another short time we shall have a significantly increased energy input through insolation (reduced albedo) compared to any or at least most previous years
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a few guys and pals up there in barrows have certainly been celebrating the return of mother sun by the 22nd of January. :-)
curious if and when o-buoy 14 will resume service or whether we shall get more buoys this year, albeit not probable considering the current policy in the US and the economical problems elsewhere will make funding not easy.
hope dies the last :-)
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sun is up in the kara sea as per these days (depending on where exactly ) gh insolation (reduced albedo) compared to any or at least most previous years
Do you by any chance have links to the sources of your screenshots?
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sun is up in the kara sea as per these days (depending on where exactly ) gh insolation (reduced albedo) compared to any or at least most previous years
Do you by any chance have links to the sources of your screenshots?
some yes, some i don't remember from where i took them sorry. below those i could reproduce:
sun & moon calender
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/russia/dikson (https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/russia/dikson)
various webcams
https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/webcams (https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/webcams)
google earth
https://www.google.com/earth/ (https://www.google.com/earth/)
more images
http://www.gettyimages.es/fotos/kara-sea?excludenudity=false&sort=mostpopular&mediatype=photography&phrase=kara%20sea (http://www.gettyimages.es/fotos/kara-sea?excludenudity=false&sort=mostpopular&mediatype=photography&phrase=kara%20sea)
even more
https://www.google.es/search?q=kara%2Bsea%2Bimages&num=100&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJhZzXkOrRAhVM02MKHeKRDREQsAQIGw&biw=1676&bih=944 (https://www.google.es/search?q=kara%2Bsea%2Bimages&num=100&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiJhZzXkOrRAhVM02MKHeKRDREQsAQIGw&biw=1676&bih=944)
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some yes, some i don't remember from where i took them sorry. below those i could reproduce:
Thanks. The calendar is new to me. The bottom two looked as though they might possibly have been recent images from the Kara, but it seems they're merely "stock images" chosen to illustrate albedo?
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some yes, some i don't remember from where i took them sorry. below those i could reproduce:
Thanks. The calendar is new to me. The bottom two looked as though they might possibly have been recent images from the Kara, but it seems they're merely "stock images" chosen to illustrate albedo?
exactly you got it all right, they were meant as a showcase to illustrate the difference between Kara ice covered or with open water at very low sun agle.
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entrainment of tropical moisture from Panama to Iceland
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entrainment of tropical moisture from Panama to Iceland
and beyond: http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mtpw2/product.php?color_type=tpw_nrl_colors&prod=global2×pan=24hrs&anim=html5 (http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mtpw2/product.php?color_type=tpw_nrl_colors&prod=global2×pan=24hrs&anim=html5)
this is taken directly from Neven's https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/ (https://sites.google.com/site/arcticseaicegraphs/)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4kMkeZWcAU_g-z.jpg)
Recently there has been a particularly good display of Polar Stratospheric Clouds, photographed above.
From http://spaceweather.com/ (http://spaceweather.com/)
"These clouds are newsworthy because normally the stratosphere has no clouds at all. Home to the ozone layer, the stratosphere is arid and almost always transparent. Yet, Stålnacke says, "we've been seeing stratospheric clouds very often this winter and last."
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Obuoy14's first image of the year:
Can't see much, but she's alive!
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Melting ice to the east of Greenland, originally posted at http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1884.msg104534.html#msg104534 (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1884.msg104534.html#msg104534)
Explore the satellite image at https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-02-24&z=3&v=-56076.41212691949,-3252172.3402470793,435443.5878730805,-3000012.3402470793 (https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-02-24&z=3&v=-56076.41212691949,-3252172.3402470793,435443.5878730805,-3000012.3402470793)
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I zoomed out a bit from that previous picture and wemt forward a day, and found a wave of cloud engulfing Greenland. I've turned it over to make it look more effective.
See satellite pic at https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-02-25&z=3&v=-1741581.779708392,-6148497.2199362805,2292978.2202916085,1715822.7800637197&r=90.0000 (https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-02-25&z=3&v=-1741581.779708392,-6148497.2199362805,2292978.2202916085,1715822.7800637197&r=90.0000)
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On the ground, this behemoth has produced 80-year record snowfall in Iceland with 51 cm snowfall in one single event. This represents a substantial latent heat transfer and on sea ice it produces heat and insulation from cold once skies clear. It is just 4 cm below all-time record event in January 1937, 80 years and 1 month ago(!): http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39104230/iceland-gets-record-breaking-snowfall-and-the-pictures-are-amazing (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/39104230/iceland-gets-record-breaking-snowfall-and-the-pictures-are-amazing) I suppose these are my pictures for the day..! :o
I zoomed out a bit from that previous picture and wemt forward a day, and found a wave of cloud engulfing Greenland. I've turned it over to make it look more effective.
See satellite pic at https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-02-25&z=3&v=-1741581.779708392,-6148497.2199362805,2292978.2202916085,1715822.7800637197&r=90.0000 (https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-02-25&z=3&v=-1741581.779708392,-6148497.2199362805,2292978.2202916085,1715822.7800637197&r=90.0000)
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Video rather than an image - listening to it is a nice contrast to the hurley-burley news and highspeed trainwreck of politics....
http://gcaptain.com/need-relax-try-listening-sounds-idling-arctic-icebreaker-beset-ice/ (http://gcaptain.com/need-relax-try-listening-sounds-idling-arctic-icebreaker-beset-ice/)
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And for the above - for downloading just the audio from youtube (and one thumbnail image) and converting to mp3
youtube-dl --extract-audio --prefer-ffmpeg --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 --embed-thumbnail "URL"
works quite well in linux and BSD if you have an up to date youtube-dl
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Spotted on the pack ice north of Twillingate, Newfoundland, yesterday. A big bear, in good condition. Wonderful sight.
Polar bears are not unusual on the NE coast of Newfoundland this time of year. This chap would be following the seal herds, which are whelping on the pack ice. Sometimes they do come ashore and are stranded if the ice moves off. Very young or old bears are the most dangerous, as they are often hungry. Wildlife officials will transport stranded bears back out to the ice edge, if possible.
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NASA Ice: Photo from yesterday's #IceBridge flight: View across the Nares Strait from Greenland to Ellesmere Island, Canada.
https://twitter.com/nasa_ice/status/840614419767918594
NASA Ice: Pic from yesterday's #IceBridge flight: Clouds forming over leads due to the sharp temperature contrast between the warm water and cold air.
https://twitter.com/nasa_ice/status/840614707417481217
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NASA Ice: Photo from yesterday's #IceBridge flight: View across the Nares Strait from Greenland to Ellesmere Island, Canada.
https://twitter.com/nasa_ice/status/840614419767918594
NASA Ice: Pic from yesterday's #IceBridge flight: Clouds forming over leads due to the sharp temperature contrast between the warm water and cold air.
https://twitter.com/nasa_ice/status/840614707417481217
A harbinger of things to come. The desert is breaking up.
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http://www.comedywildlifephoto.com/gallery/2016_winners.php#&gid=1&pid=10 (http://www.comedywildlifephoto.com/gallery/2016_winners.php#&gid=1&pid=10)
From the Comedy Wildlife Photo Awards.
http://www.comedywildlifephoto.com/gallery/2016_winners.php (http://www.comedywildlifephoto.com/gallery/2016_winners.php)
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Is this the head of a giant snowman (yellow scarf, green mouth, dark blue eyes), as seen through a window with panes (black lines)?
(AKA screenshot from Arctic HYCOM (https://www7320.nrlssc.navy.mil/hycomARC/navo/arcticictn_nowcast_anim30d.gif))
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He looks a bit sad......
"Frosty the Snowman knew the sun was hot that day
So he said let's run and we'll have some fun now
Before I melt away......"
:(
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THE END OF THE ARCTIC CAN ALSO HAPPEN THIS WAY:
https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden)&t=2017-03-17&z=3&v=-2044602.8045363002,-4147198.448692568,-1520314.8045363002,-3816958.448692568
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THE END OF THE ARCTIC CAN ALSO HAPPEN THIS WAY:
https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden)&t=2017-03-17&z=3&v=-2044602.8045363002,-4147198.448692568,-1520314.8045363002,-3816958.448692568
Ah, yes, Manicouagan, one of my favorite astroblemes... It was a rather large one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manicouagan_crater
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The "eye of Quebec."
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Sea Ice Transport 20.03.2017: a vast tongue of sea ice is passing well past the Franz Joseph Land to the Barentz Sea and weak sea ice around Svalbard today: https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden)&t=2017-03-20&z=3&v=638544.5625044382,-490825.29911611415,1687120.5625044382,169654.70088388585
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Sea Ice Transport 20.03.2017: a vast tongue of sea ice is passing well past the Franz Joseph Land to the Barentz Sea and weak sea ice around Svalbard today: https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden)&t=2017-03-20&z=3&v=638544.5625044382,-490825.29911611415,1687120.5625044382,169654.70088388585
From the size and shape of the floes, I'd bet that those are some of the die-hard MYI boulders which made it through last summer in the Northern Laptev. So long...
(...and thanks for all the fish)
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Hi All
This is my first blog on your wonderful site which I have been watching for nearly a year.
Today NASA announced that Greeland and Antarctic are losing 400 gigatons of ice / year. I have just calculated this as giving 2.38 mm / year height increase. Water thermal expansion + glacial and other surface ice would be in addition to this (also aquafier surface pumping). Does this seem a bit high ?
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Welcome, Jontenoy. Your profile has been released now, so you can post freely. I see that you've asked your question in the SLR thread as well. This one is for Arctic images.
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I guess I found the creature who is eating all the ice near Svalbard - Worldview, Mar 12 - Mar 13.
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It's Icepacman! :o
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It's Icepacman! :o
hehe.... good that i saw your post before writing the same :-) uhhh.... just remembering 45 years ago sitting in front of those machines for hours each day :-)
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I guess I found the creature who is eating all the ice near Svalbard - Worldview, Mar 12 - Mar 13.
Ha ha ha !
Good one.
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Great fun - thank you for posting :)
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That image is addictive. "Stop," I say, "Stop! Turn it off. Unplug it if you have to. Stop the machine - it has gone too far! We've lost too much sea ice already." :'(
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The icepacman of the Fram Strait has been active today: 350 km x 325 km chunk of sea ice is now leaving the Central Arctic today (24th March 2017) with large separation gap forming. I doubt that any bigger section of the Arctic Ocean ice cap could get through the gap, but you never know what comes next behind the bend (or more correctly what leaves from behind the bend [of Greenland])... https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Coastlines,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden)&t=2017-03-24&z=3&v=87993.52285053895,-1196593.2128281824,1136569.522850539,-536113.2128281824
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Splat!
an image of a glacier just after calving...
http://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/#lat=68.37591234101484&lng=-30.027694702148438&zoom=11&preset=CUSTOM&layers=B05,B03,B01&maxcc=100&gain=0.5&gamma=1.3&time=2015-01-01|2017-03-21&cloudCorrection=replace&atmFilter=&/showImage (http://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/#lat=68.37591234101484&lng=-30.027694702148438&zoom=11&preset=CUSTOM&layers=B05,B03,B01&maxcc=100&gain=0.5&gamma=1.3&time=2015-01-01|2017-03-21&cloudCorrection=replace&atmFilter=&/showImage)
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Icepacman is great! He`s made my day ;D
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It's spring on the NE coast of Newfoundland, which means the polar bears that follow the whelping herds of harp and hood seals out on the pack ice are on the move. Some come ashore and often wander around remote communities, at great peril to local residents----and, sometimes, sadly, to themselves. This one was spotted in Wesleyville (latitude N49.15) on March 29, which is near the southernmost limit of their range. The RCMP and wildlife officials have issued warnings and are monitoring.
PHOTO by local resident Dana Blackmore.
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They are some beastly animals...
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UPDATE on that Newfoundland bear, with a photo that will probably go viral:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/praying-polar-bear-picture-wesleyville-1.4047414 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/praying-polar-bear-picture-wesleyville-1.4047414)
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UPDATE on that Newfoundland bear, with a photo that will probably go viral:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/praying-polar-bear-picture-wesleyville-1.4047414 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/praying-polar-bear-picture-wesleyville-1.4047414)
Personally prefer the second photo, but the first has more chance of going viral.
Nice to see a bear that doesn't appear emaciated.
Terry
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Nor this one
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/03/31/polar-bears-spotted-scotland-animals-flee-melting-arctic-ice/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/03/31/polar-bears-spotted-scotland-animals-flee-melting-arctic-ice/)
But a few corpses appear to have been washed up on Britains beaches in the last year.
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Nor this one
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/03/31/polar-bears-spotted-scotland-animals-flee-melting-arctic-ice/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/03/31/polar-bears-spotted-scotland-animals-flee-melting-arctic-ice/)
But a few corpses appear to have been washed up on Britains beaches in the last year.
The famous Lirpa Loof rears its head. :)
I wonder if it will get the same response as the Isle of San Seriffe?
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Beauty shot: muskoxen, north of Zachariae glacier, Greenland on April 3.
Photo by NASA Operation Icebridge/Jeremy Harbeck.
Lots more on their FB page.
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Another one from NASA Operation Icebridge.
"Clouds (near the center of the photo) over the sea ice in Nares Strait as seen from a window of NASA’s P3." Posted on their FB page April 4.
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Here's my view of the North end of Hudson Strait a few miles from Baffin Island a few minutes ago:
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Oops, that's huge and rotated! I'll edit that when I get to my computer.
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Oops, that's huge and rotated! I'll edit that when I get to my computer.
Rights itself with a click.
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Fragility of sea ice revealed by a topographic constraint: circular ice breaking area radiates from an island north of the Kara Sea: https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-04-06&z=3&v=562902.8160275342,370620.34556485247,1087190.8160275342,700860.3455648525
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Fragility of sea ice revealed by a topographic constraint: circular ice breaking area radiates from an island north of the Kara Sea: <snip>
Great Image, VeliAlbertKallio!
That demonstrates categorically just how vulnerable the ice is in that region.
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I came down with a cold just after landing last week, then had to nurse my sweetheart who for some reason blames me for bringing the plague up to Inuit territory like I'm a genocidal European explorer.
But now that we're better, I have time to share a few photos. I'll space them out this week.
Today's photo, a cool feature I saw on approach to Iqaluit: rings of ridged ice around the shores of Frobisher Bay and its islands.
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"Petermann glacier's east wall near the terminus of the floating ice shelf, with blowing snow visible coming from the plateau to the east."
Photo NASA/John Sonntag. Posted today by NASA Operation Icebridge.
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"Petermann glacier's east wall near the terminus of the floating ice shelf, with blowing snow visible coming from the plateau to the east."
Photo NASA/John Sonntag. Posted today by NASA Operation Icebridge.
That is a truly beautiful image.
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Here's a close-up view of the ringed ice I photographed from the sky. This is on the bay between the Tundra Valley and Apex neighbourhoods of Iqaluit.
When you're in it, you can't see the pattern. It's about 200m of rough ice (at a guess; I could be off by a fair bit) out to the smooth ice in the bay; there's a clear phase shift at about 150m from shore where suddenly you only get a few big lumps and mostly smooth ice. I can guess at mechanisms for that phase shift but I don't know exactly -- my main guess is that it's where the low tide shoreline is.
Where I took this picture is a sand beach, so the rough ice has a lot of sand embedded: it formed when the water froze at low tide, then got lifted up (the tide is very strong -- about 8m here). Now that it's April, we see the ice around the dark sand melting out very fast.
The sun is incredibly strong: air temperature was -15 C but I was in a small sweater, snow on my boots was melting almost immediately, and when I headed back, the snow had warmed enough that it wasn't sticking to the wax on my skis. Also I had a good sunburn.
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Grounded iceberg near Ferryland, Newfoundland - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39632047 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39632047)
(https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2359/production/_95694090_hi039052770.jpg)
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Grounded iceberg near Ferryland, Newfoundland - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39632047 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39632047)
Ha! I just came onto this thread in order to post that image!
One doesn't see a sight like that very often in South West England these days. (It's been a while since the LGM.)
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That is just the 10% above the water!
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Grounded iceberg near Ferryland, Newfoundland - see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39632047 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39632047)
That's an amazing sight. Trying to judge the size of a more or less featureless chunk of out-of-context white can be tricky, but there's got to be, what, 60 meters of freeboard on that thing?
From that article:
It's already been a busy season in iceberg alley, with hundreds of icebergs reported in the Atlantic - many more than usual for this time of year in the coastal regions.
Indeed...
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Edit. Found it, 46 m highest point
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/ferryland-iceberg-traffic-1.4073428 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/ferryland-iceberg-traffic-1.4073428)
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This is not far from me. Beautiful, yes, but they keep the water and the air so cold and can ruin the summer. Ice also can play havoc with fishing gear. Tourists love it because they don't have to live here. Those of us who have grown up with ice are praying for a solid month of sou-westerlies to take the bergs and the pack well out to sea, and good riddance! :)
FYI
Latitude of Ferryland is 47° 2' N.
So, more southerly than Paris, France.
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That is just the 10% above the water!
true, while the base under water is most probably wider similar to tree roots, else it's getting ready to topple :-)
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This is Derrick Bath's vessel, Polar Adventure, battling sea ice at Twillingate, a couple hundred km north of that spectacular berg in Ferryland. Sea ice is a a major problem for Newfoundland fishermen, coming as it does during lobster and crab season.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/ice-compensation-fisherman-twillingate-1.4076069 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/ice-compensation-fisherman-twillingate-1.4076069)
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... battling sea ice at Twillingate, a couple hundred km north of that spectacular berg in Ferryland. ...
When people describe Twillingate as the "iceberg capital of the world", I assume they are NOT referring to a variety of lettuce. ;)
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This is not far from me. Beautiful, yes, but they keep the water and the air so cold and can ruin the summer. Ice also can play havoc with fishing gear. Tourists love it because they don't have to live here. Those of us who have grown up with ice are praying for a solid month of sou-westerlies to take the bergs and the pack well out to sea, and good riddance! :)
FYI
Latitude of Ferryland is 47° 2' N.
So, more southerly than Paris, France.
A good reminder of how the North Atlantic Drift keeps me warm in England at 52 N.
Just once in the extraordinary winter of 62-63 there were ice floes under Brighton pier on the South Coast of England. But not 46 m high.
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A good reminder of how the North Atlantic Drift keeps me warm in England at 52 N. Just once in the extraordinary winter of 62-63 there were ice floes under Brighton pier on the South Coast of England. But not 46 m high.
Ah, the winter of 62/63 - fond memories indeed. :)
Went head-over-heels outside my house in Glasgow, and ended up with a fractured coccyx. >:(
... Beautiful, yes, but they keep the water and the air so cold and can ruin the summer. Ice also can play havoc with fishing gear...
Still, there are worse things in this world than a berg made of ice. Imagine waking up one morning, and finding one of these right in the middle of your view...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23584833 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23584833) :-X
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Oo er!
I noticed this was from "Wikimedia"; so maybe it's a generic pic? Published 6 April.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.climatecentral.org%2Fimages%2Fmade%2F4_6_17_Brian_icebergs_arctic_720_482_s_c1_c_c.jpg&hash=644bc8bcae9b03e15c0bca536d60ed4f)
Around 450 icebergs — defined as hunks of ice covering at least 5,382 square feet and between 98-164 feet in thickness — are lurking off the coast of Newfoundland and Labrador, well above the average of 80 usually found for this time of year. The swarm appeared suddenly, too. Just last week, there were only 37 icebergs in the region.
The highest concentration of rogue ice is off the southeast tip of Newfoundland.
http://www.climatecentral.org/news/icebergs-are-swarming-ships-in-the-arctic-21320 (http://www.climatecentral.org/news/icebergs-are-swarming-ships-in-the-arctic-21320)
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RE: The Ferryland iceberg photo posted by Bairgon...
... 46 m highest point ...
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That is just the 10% above the water!
true, while the base under water is most probably wider similar to tree roots, else it's getting ready to topple :-)
If that was sea ice, rather than a chunk of calved glacier, AND ...
if the Lebedev formula for ice growth still had some skill over such an extreme range, then ...
if we said it had an average thickness of ~ 400 metres, then ...
the number of Freezing Degree Days necessary would be approximately 50 million.
That would just require a temperature of -50 degrees Celsius, for about 27 or 28 centuries.
Even I might be prepared to accept a small wager that such a prolonged cool snap is not on the immediate horizon.
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I noticed this was from "Wikimedia"; so maybe it's a generic pic?
Hi Susan. The metadata indicates it was taken August 14, 2011, near St. Anthony, which is near the NE end of Newfoundland's Northern Peninsula, not far from the SE tip of Labrador on the mainland.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Icebergs.jpg
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Magma: thanks. I expose my lack of knowledge (was going to say - ignorance ;) - every day). Proper skepticism is important. A friend found this useful iceberg locator:
http://icebergfinder.com/ (http://icebergfinder.com/)
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs4.reutersmedia.net%2Fresources%2Fr%2F%3Fm%3D02%26amp%3Bd%3D20170420%26amp%3Bt%3D2%26amp%3Bi%3D1181395967%26amp%3Bw%3D780%26amp%3Bfh%3D%26amp%3Bfw%3D%26amp%3Bll%3D%26amp%3Bpl%3D%26amp%3Bsq%3D%26amp%3Br%3D2017-04-20T192013Z_5880_MRPRC1B21DF2010_RTRMADP_0_CANADA-WEATHER&hash=71b9c55774b8ec48261bb6b73c3dbcd2)
Residents view the first iceberg of the season as it passes the South Shore, also known as "Iceberg Alley", near Ferryland Newfoundland, Canada April 16, 2017. REUTERS/Jody Martin
http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/photos-of-the-week?articleId=USRTS136QJ (http://www.reuters.com/news/picture/photos-of-the-week?articleId=USRTS136QJ)
P.S.: I swear I checked, but it somehow evaded me this picture has already been posted :) But this beauty bears repeating... :-)
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The Lincoln Sea has traditionally been the strongest area of sea ice with thickest sea ice packs of the Arctic Ocean the norm. This image of 21st April 2017 suggest, instead, a relatively feeble sea ice tumbling down like dominoes at ease with sea ice breaking front fanning out an ever larger circle of open water: https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-04-21&z=3&v=-416774.7992150438,-915224.113907556,-154630.79921504378,-750104.113907556
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A friend found this useful iceberg locator:
http://icebergfinder.com/ (http://icebergfinder.com/)
Hi Susan, that site, which is run by the tourism dept of the provincial government, relies on reports by "ambassadors" and thus gives only a partial picture of the berg situation on our coast.
A more complete picture is compiled daily by the Canadian Ice Service. Click "East Coast", then scroll down to "Daily Iceberg Analysis Chart." The graphic gives the numbers of bergs in each section of the map.
http://www.ec.gc.ca/glaces-ice/default.asp?lang=En&n=D32C361E-1&grp=Guest&mn=&lang=en (http://www.ec.gc.ca/glaces-ice/default.asp?lang=En&n=D32C361E-1&grp=Guest&mn=&lang=en)
If you are on FB, check out "Newfoundland Iceberg Reports", a group which is very current and features photos and local information, also lots of locals posting who are happy to help visitors locate icebergs.
:)
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Cape Bauld light, at the very tip of Newfoundland's Great Northern Peninsula, today. Lat 51.6N. Just a few minutes from the UNESCO Norse site at L'Anse aux Meadows. Canadian Ice Service charts for today show sea ice extending hundreds of km northwards from here.
PS In summertime, the lightkeeper's house, now disused as such, is a B&B. :)
PHOTO BY SHARON KEAN.
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Cate
That is amazing. I was there twice in May of 2005 & it was tee shirt weather. In just over a month in Newfoundland and Labrador we saw one far off iceberg.
A friend is headed to Ferryland this summer and is hoping the bergs there are long gone, says it chills the whole area.
Great photo
Terry
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That is just the 10% above the water!
Taking a SWAG at it that's ~1.5M M^3 of fresh water. Perhaps someone should wrap it and it's pals in mylar, tow them down to Bahrain, or somewhere like that, and grow some vegetation with it...
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https://www.thebigblow.ca/iceberg-whale-tours (https://www.thebigblow.ca/iceberg-whale-tours) looks like the B & B is nearby.
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In just over a month in Newfoundland and Labrador we saw one far off iceberg.
A friend is headed to Ferryland this summer and is hoping the bergs there are long gone, says it chills the whole area.
Great photo
Terry
Terry, I'm with your friend. Ice is lovely to look at but it always means colder waters and thus a likelihood of a slower spring and/or cooler, damper summer. All depends on the wind, which is why all true Newfoundlanders pray for six weeks of sou'westerlies starting just about now. :)
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A stunning collection of NASA IceBridge 2017 photos by NASA Goddard scientist Jeremy Harbeck.
https://jeremyharbeck.smugmug.com/Field-WorkExpeditions/Operation-IceBridge-2017-Arctic
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4444492/Nasa-reveals-new-images-massive-Greenland-glacier-crack.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4444492/Nasa-reveals-new-images-massive-Greenland-glacier-crack.html)
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Yet another Arctic visitor to Newfoundland shores this spring.
Koo koo ka choo!
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/walrus-spotted-st-lunaire-griquet-1.4095195 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/walrus-spotted-st-lunaire-griquet-1.4095195)
Photos by Ruby Taylor Peyton.
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This year's Big Block comes out of Amundsen Gulf and seems 25 km-thick
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seaicesailor, maybe not 25 km thick? Maybe 25 m? Hoping not 25 cm.
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I think he means wide. ::) if its 25m thick its a dang big piece of shelf. Not good either.
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I meant 25 km thick by the visual effect, but on second look what it seems is half-sunk ... impossible too unless it is a failed geoengineered platform
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Looks like a fog bank. Is it disintegrating on that side and producing fog as the melting rubble cools the air? Lets keep an eye on it.
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I was kidding with the 25 km thick and the sinking platform of course. The gray band I believe is the last layers of refreezing and maybe some fog too. It will be interesting to follow indeed, there should be more drifting in the next days and at some point a drop in the thickness from 25 km to 2 or 3 meters ;)
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there are weatherstations on the coast which give a good idea of conditions, temperatures at Cambridge Bay were -24 to -15 C but are forcast to reach a maximum of -4 in the coming days.
http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate_data/daily_data_e.html?StationID=53512 (http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climate_data/daily_data_e.html?StationID=53512)
To distinguish between fog and ice look at the 3,6,7 band images on world view https://go.nasa.gov/2peG8tD (https://go.nasa.gov/2peG8tD)
red is snow and ice, white are clouds.
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The question is, will this big gulf ball get out of the hole? My vote is yes, in one piece? My vote is no.
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1834.msg112423.html#msg112423
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Big block 2017 is no more - though it is a little difficult to tell through the clouds.
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Big block 2017 is no more - though it is a little difficult to tell through the clouds.
Cool. Although to equate this FYI with Big Block in 2016 is misleading.
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It looks far more delicate than the big block. It's more like a big egg being cracked open.
I think I need more meds!
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I think attempting to assign any floe this year as "Big Block" is pretty much a failed endeavor from the start since FYI tends to break as necessary when it hits something rather than the thing it hits shattering.
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Big block 2017 is no more - though it is a little difficult to tell through the clouds.
Cool. Although to equate this FYI with Big Block in 2016 is misleading.
big slab?
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Big Break. ;D
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Big Break. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuzSPmsNzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuzSPmsNzQ)
Hmm, maybe that should have been first 47 seconds of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p3sflIaVuU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p3sflIaVuU)
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Crack, the gateway drug?
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Big Break. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuzSPmsNzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuzSPmsNzQ)
Hmm, maybe that should have been first 47 seconds of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p3sflIaVuU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p3sflIaVuU)
No, I liked that first link better. In fact, my daughter liked it so much, she put it on six times in a row. Thanks, crandles! ;D
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It broke big in fact. :-(
So nothing remotely close to BB in size this year (needless to say not in thickness or age...).
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a nice example as to what insolation combined with low albedo, i'm referring to the dark ice in barrows and other places, can do even at clearly below freezing temps. one can see melt ponding as well as water flowing down the road even though temps are 2-3C below 0, coming from even lower and a decent wind chill factor.
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I believe temps have been slightly above 0 at times in the last few days
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I believe temps have been slightly above 0 at times in the last few days
yes you're right but they are below in that picture and the ponds are not refrozen as well as the water in the streets is still liquid and flowing due to insolation o dark ground. as i said, i used this as an example while what really caught my eyes recently was the amount of soot getting higher every season on greenland's ice-sheet and this year extremely so visible on barrows webcam. barrows has hardly be over 0C this year, could even be the first day today (significantly) and already there are poodles and melt is ongoing on that lake to the right and that was at temps of minus 4-8C, wind chill not counted. the intention of my post was to illustrate that long before temps reach 0C and higher, significant melt could start if the ice/snow is dirty and the sun is strong enough.
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it's this what i was referring to while insolation was even poor over the last few days and temps WERE (are not now) well below freezing point, there are huge poodles and all the rest i mentioned, not even mentioning the ope water which has been there for many days now which at times one can clearly see at the horizon and verify over satellite.
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Huge poodles would certainly be a worrying new trend for the Arctic! At least they would keep the polar bears well fed.
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Nice early morning sunrise over Barrow. Also meltwater can be seen, it's about -3 °C right now, should rise to +2 °C later.
Image: http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam (http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam)
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Nice early morning sunrise over Barrow. Also meltwater can be seen, it's about -3 °C right now, should rise to +2 °C later.
Image: http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam (http://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam)
Nearly posted this same scene about 10 mins ago!!! What I noticed was the man cleaning fish near the far left hand side...well I think he's cleaning fish...where all the footprints are in the snow. I watch Barrow grass grow in summer :) It's my favourite webcam!
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already there are poodles and melt is ongoing
magna normally i try not to be "the spelling police" but since you made the mistake twice and someone made a joke about it, i thought i would clarify for you. :)
a poodle is a furry breed of dog.
a puddle is a small pool of water :)
look up pictures of poodles because it is really funny to imagine them running around all over the arctic :D
sorry, not trying to be annoying :)
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Actually you're not being the spelling police. I am! ::) From my recollection Magna used poodles 3 times counting another thread. And it made me smile hugely, especially coming from Magna, who provides so many informative and spot on insights. I'm looking forward to invoking poodles in my own discussions when they start showing off around the arctic. ;D
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Think about it .. the end result would still be the same, many small melt puddles on the ice but only yellow in color. ;D
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already there are poodles and melt is ongoing
magna normally i try not to be "the spelling police" but since you made the mistake twice and someone made a joke about it, i thought i would clarify for you. :)
a poodle is a furry breed of dog.
a puddle is a small pool of water :)
look up pictures of poodles because it is really funny to imagine them running around all over the arctic :D
sorry, not trying to be annoying :)
thanks a lot man, "embarrasing" LOL but i'm happy for every correction of this kind, i definitely didn't have this ready, probably only would have wondered once i would use the poodle and the puddle word in one sentence. very much appreciated and much more helpful than jokes while i do smile as well now that i'm aware.
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Actually you're not being the spelling police. I am! ::) From my recollection Magna used poodles 3 times counting another thread. And it made me smile hugely, especially coming from Magna, who provides so many informative and spot on insights. I'm looking forward to invoking poodles in my own discussions when they start showing off around the arctic. ;D
yeah, it happens at times that i (one) non-native speakers of a language just have some wrongs sticking over years, sometimes decades, until someone is kind enough to point to the mistakes.
mostly it happesn to me in phonetics but as we see, not only. every day i (we) learn and that's a great feeling to go forward and learn. thanks and yes, now it appears funny indeed
i'm not sure what i should think that my mistakes are counted, happy or worried LOL just kidding of course, it's very much ok.
EDIT: try to find the posts with search function but found only 2 if someone remembers the posts who can send me the link for correction would be welcome, just if it's not asking too much ;)
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Since there are so many smilies around,
Huge poodles would certainly be a worrying new trend for the Arctic! At least they would keep the polar bears well fed.
Maybe that depends on how huge? Maybe they are so huge they eat the polar bears? ;D
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Perhaps if they hybridise with arctic wolves and foxes we could get super poxes and woodles that would be a match for the hybrid grizzly polar super-bars
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@ magnamentis - maybe it was only twice and i was reading this thread when i thought i was reading another.
Let me also add that I have nothing but the greatest respect and appreciation for those that write and speak in a second language - especially English. ::) I know there are many 2nd language contributors here on ASIF and i want to say thank you for taking the time and effort to translate your thoughts and sharing them with this great community!
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water flowing down the road even though temps are 2-3C below 0
May 1 I flew back to Montreal from Iqaluit. I left all my winter gear, since I'm in Montreal to pack and otherwise move to Iqaluit. So I was standing outside waiting for the taxi in a spring-weather jacket, no hat, no gloves. Quite comfortable. Water was flowing down the road in a normal-looking spring thaw stream.
It was -12 C.
(And perhaps I should mention the landlord's poodles were napping in the dog house.)
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Arctic Poodles are real. I found definitive proof:
https://arcticpoodle.wordpress.com/author/finnfinn1/
On Worldview I found one lake east of James Bay which is still ice covered, but a river flowing through it has carved an ice free channel. Is this 100% natural or do Canadians use icebreakers in these remote parts?
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This American has a wife who describes his slow driving as "poodling along". I find it's use as describing a puddle rather charming after many years of my wife describing my driving to me. I will cease my own referencing it now as I take a bow to all the international people here who speak and write in English as I only can handle enough words in German after six years of living there to order a beer and get slapped after I have drunk it and say something uncouth to a fraulein at the bar. Instead I will be quiet and continue to learn about the Arctic from all of you.
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Arctic Poodles are real. I found definitive proof:
https://arcticpoodle.wordpress.com/author/finnfinn1/ (https://arcticpoodle.wordpress.com/author/finnfinn1/)
On Worldview I found one lake east of James Bay which is still ice covered, but a river flowing through it has carved an ice free channel. Is this 100% natural or do Canadians use icebreakers in these remote parts?
I believe you're looking at the East Main reservoir and the Grand River. No icebreakers but 100% artificial. All part of North America's largest hydro generation project.
Terry
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I guess that explains what we see as a deeper, pre reservoir riverbed melting before ice over slower moving water in the shallower parts of the reservoir? Wikipedia gives an average depth of 21m and a maximum of 137m for the Robert Bourassa reservoir. Could there be an effect due to the pre reservoir plantmaterial still on the lakebed?
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Arctic Poodles are real. I found definitive proof:
https://arcticpoodle.wordpress.com/author/finnfinn1/
I see small dogs with short hair in Iqaluit, when it's -40 out. They are perfectly happy.
Friends are still going out on the bay in Iqaluit. There's melt ponds, but the ice is generally still thick and snow-covered enough to ski on.
Even in the middle of winter there's water on the ice, due to the tides.
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This American has a wife who describes his slow driving as "poodling along". I find it's use as describing a puddle rather charming after many years of my wife describing my driving to me. I will cease my own referencing it now as I take a bow to all the international people here who speak and write in English as I only can handle enough words in German after six years of living there to order a beer and get slapped after I have drunk it and say something uncouth to a fraulein at the bar. Instead I will be quiet and continue to learn about the Arctic from all of you.
That would be "pootling" along!
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a quite special and interesing atmosphere :-)
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Yenisei River in stark contrast!
https://go.nasa.gov/2sPcBJ5
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pretty picture of the conversion to brash against low clouds north of Svalbaard
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ice floes → brash ice → water → water vapor :D
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Excellent picture - it would be very interesting to know the SST of the waters in each represented area.
ice floes → brash ice → water → water vapor :D
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a clear view of the lena delta at this time is always a spectacular sight.
https://go.nasa.gov/2s7lJf8 (https://go.nasa.gov/2s7lJf8)
the dark lines aginst a white background are easy to understand, the white lines against a dark backround I find puzzling. Makes a beautiful picture I could look at for a long time.
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..., the white lines against a dark backround I find puzzling. ....
Just a guess (never been there :) ) Grey/dark is sea ice flooded with meltwater from the river. White lines are ridges in the ice, still covered with snow?
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..., the white lines against a dark backround I find puzzling. ....
Just a guess (never been there :) ) Grey/dark is sea ice flooded with meltwater from the river. White lines are ridges in the ice, still covered with snow?
My guess is the white lines are thicker ice in these estuary like channels. The dark is low lying land that has become wet. Since the ice in the channels is thicker it hasn't melted but surrounded with melt water, which extend like fingers onto the seaice.
I compared with a day in July last year.
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My interpretation: With flooding, the ice 'floating' on many of the channels stays on top of the water, whereas the flooded neighboring lowland just had snow that is now melted/washed away/saturated with muddy water. When these ice ribbons break, they will form impressive ice dams. (Fabulous picture pair, Jay!)
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My guess is the white lines are thicker ice in these estuary like channels. The dark is low lying land that has become wet. ...
indeed. I was referring to the bottom left corner of the image. I think you are correct regarding the top right corner.... :)
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Looks like a giant polar bear watching towards Norway. Image: Worldview, June 12.
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My guess is the white lines are thicker ice in these estuary like channels. The dark is low lying land that has become wet. ...
indeed. I was referring to the bottom left corner of the image. I think you are correct regarding the top right corner.... :)
Jay's image is the bottom right corner. I suspect the bottom left corner has the same cause. It certainly looks weird though!!
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someone was mentioning kimmirut as heavily delayed this year to make his point, don't remember the tread but considering the words i remember and that we are just 3 days later i'd say that this kind of delay, if any, is within a healty range due to weather conditions
the snow on the mountains "IS" almost gone and the ice will be gone within a few days as well, water is dark blue as compared to light blue ponds, hence what we see are micro leads if that term is allowed, at least i don't know any better one, ready to listen to a native who knows a better term for those "holes" in the ice.
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We are used to looking at open water, but this is odd because of where it is, off the corner of Greenland headed down the Fram, doomed to reach warm southern waters and then become, well uh, warmer water.(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F&hash=35d7d5d7526c9897dfb55501e320295a)
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We are used to looking at open water, but this is odd because of where it is, off the corner of Greenland headed down the Fram, doomed to reach warm southern waters and then become, well uh, warmer water.(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F&hash=35d7d5d7526c9897dfb55501e320295a)
and what we see where ice still ice, counts as 100% Extent LOL while with a bit of bad luck ( or luck, depending LOL) the entire image could count as close to 100% ice covered, obviously without it being the case.
one could post images from all over the arctic nowadays and most of them look very similar to this one as far as ice quality and concentration is concerned.
i'd be very suprised if extent wouldn't drop lke a stone once the 15% are reached over millions of km2 at or close to the same time. let's see, just the entire place looks doomed taking about arctic sea ice only here.
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???
https://go.nasa.gov/2tmG51r What does this look like? Ice that's one day away from melting and we see a 3 million sqkm extent drop tomorrow?
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Open water visible offshore from Utqiagvik
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Open water visible offshore from Utqiagvik
you are totally right just that its sounds like new while that open water is there for weeks already. you can crosscheck with sat-images a month back and even then there was mostly coastal ice (fast ice of some kind ) while farther out one was able to distinguish that dark shadow, at times it even shows in the cloud since the surface color has an impact of low clouds color.
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Hard to beat this one from O-Buoy 14. There's been some discussion of it on the What the buoys are telling thread.
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Open water visible offshore from Utqiagvik
Worldview captures large ice mass breaking off June 12th.
(click image to activate)
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that was a bear grunting "land in sight" just to find out that it was a buoy :-)
no they really have to hurry to reach land in that direction before it's all gone
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I was looking at this image because of the interesting colors in the Bering Strait. But then noticed the contrails in the lower left corner.
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/npp-gina-alaska-truecolor-images/2017_06_15_14_38_jd166 (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/npp-gina-alaska-truecolor-images/2017_06_15_14_38_jd166)
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I was looking at this image because of the interesting colors in the Bering Strait. But then noticed the contrails in the lower left corner.
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/npp-gina-alaska-truecolor-images/2017_06_15_14_38_jd166 (http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/npp-gina-alaska-truecolor-images/2017_06_15_14_38_jd166)
Jay
Those contrails are large enough to completely shroud the Diomede islands in what would appear to be fog. At present, it is also foggy in Utqiagvik. Worldview of the Bering Strait does not show as many contrails, but does show some. Further, worldview shows wispy clouds that could be the remnant of the contrail blasts shown in the image posted by Jay.
In addition to impressive imagery, the contrails that are being spotted raise questions as to whether or not they cause environmental impacts; and, if so, what are the impacts.
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What just happened in the Kara Sea?
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The last bits of ice jarring onto Greenland...
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Fires in Siberia. Multiple fires north of Lake Baikal. Some soot from these is sure to end up on the ice. It is unusually warm in the area, as the temperature anomaly map shows.
(https://s17.postimg.org/7ct5pfn4f/Fires_S.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/m8rox0yiz/)
(https://s7.postimg.org/roziargpn/Fire_S2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/dvb5lpo47/)
The smoke is getting worse. A huge pall of smoke:
(https://s9.postimg.org/pf157jyxb/Siberia2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/mkxzu3wqz/)
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Smoke may heat the atmosphere but filters the sunlight. I always remember smoke taking the heat from early-season sunshine on a cool day. Soot on snow (with solar radiation) has the opposite effect, may compensate?
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Black carbon is regarded as a short lived climate pollutant, but there is some debate as to whether light particles offset the dark particles in smoke to inhibit GHG warming. See page 41 onward in the policy guidance document below:
https://www.arb.ca.gov/cc/shortlived/meetings/03142017/final_slcp_report.pdf (https://www.arb.ca.gov/cc/shortlived/meetings/03142017/final_slcp_report.pdf)
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cross posted in the buoys thread but could be an image of the day as well
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;D Certainly! Here's the link: http://obuoy.datatransport.org/monitor#buoy14/camera (http://obuoy.datatransport.org/monitor#buoy14/camera)
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I am dreaming of the North Pole and Central Arctic Basin full of round ice floes with no square shapes to be seen anymore. Today's thin sea ice in the CAB is no longer capable to survive intact when sea ice floes toss each other (due to winds and ocean currents), turning them all round. ??? Perfect example: https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Graticule,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-06-27&z=3&v=433591.2246794036,-507290.4474063759,695735.2246794036,-342170.4474063759
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I am dreaming of the North Pole and Central Arctic Basin full of round ice floes with no square shapes to be seen anymore. Today's thin sea ice in the CAB is no longer capable to survive intact when sea ice floes toss each other (due to winds and ocean currents), turning them all ....
Deli, you may have accidentally found the single largest surviving block of ice in the CAB...
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I am dreaming of the North Pole and Central Arctic Basin full of round ice floes with no square shapes to be seen anymore. Today's thin sea ice in the CAB is no longer capable to survive intact when sea ice floes toss each other (due to winds and ocean currents), turning them all ....
Deli, you may have accidentally found the single largest surviving block of ice in the CAB...
That's a depressing thought. Perhaps they will put it in the ice museum...
...and charge the people a dollar and-a-half just to see 'em
(Joni Mitchell)
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Tic Tac Toe over the Beaufort Sea, or does 'X' mark the spot?
😯
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Smoke may heat the atmosphere but filters the sunlight. I always remember smoke taking the heat from early-season sunshine on a cool day. Soot on snow (with solar radiation) has the opposite effect, may compensate?
There is an interesting science brief from the GISS about fossil carbon soots and organic carbon soots :
https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/bauer_01/ (https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/bauer_01/)
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Utqiagvik webcam appears to be down. Is there soot in the air there?
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The last remnants of sea ice in the Hudson Bay (the island is Mansel Island).
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Ghostly patterns of melting ice in Ungava Bay.
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Utqiagvik webcam appears to be down. Is there soot in the air there?
cam has been up all day and is up now, of course it can be down for a short time but usually, before reporting cam down i usually check again a few times, often it's temporary and just bad luck, so if you didn't see yet, cam is up now (1 minute ago) just in case you still want to have a look and did not already ;)
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The last remnants of sea ice in the Hudson Bay (the island is Mansel Island).
thanks for the nice image
since each year someone was talking about several meter thick multiyear ice in hudson i for sure will make and save a screenshot of the empty hudson this season to post as a reply next year.
at least i'm totally sure that there will be no ice left in hudson and certainly not several meter thick MYI
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just another kind of graph than the ones we're all used to see :-)
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Duck or dragon? Hopen island today (https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-07-01&z=3&v=1273318.5906508188,-611056.0952803105,1476860.4310107194,-336767.6147277709&r=-249.764)
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Duckanado !!! Another made-for-TV movie coming to cable tv forever!!!
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Awesome. ;D
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Meltponds southern part of Greenland. Never having seen sea ice in my life, I was quite excited the sky was clear.
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Gletcher from Greenland, close to the Labrador sea. I don't know if it has a name.
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Spotted this on EOSDIS in the Kara Sea. Anyone care a guess to the hexagon shape of the image.
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The lower two sides are defined by cracks in the ice, while the other four, curiously, are defined by cloud edges. (I have visited cloud image blogs, and there are amazing shapes and textures out there!) [Is this The Great Juju (http://www.funtrivia.com/en/Music/Flanders-and-Swann-17643_2.html) having some fun?]
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Looks like stone but it's sea ice in Foxy Basin as seen by Sentinel:
http://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?lat=69.03093801875345&lng=-77.77891159057617&zoom=12&gain=0.5&time=2017-07-02 (http://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?lat=69.03093801875345&lng=-77.77891159057617&zoom=12&gain=0.5&time=2017-07-02)
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sentinel is great for this, this image is of a piece of ice grounded in shallow water off the east siberian coast. Landfast ice between the grounded piece and the coast seen near the bottom of the image has now broken away but the grounded piece is still stuck.
http://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?lat=70.70029171169845&lng=165.69820404052734&zoom=11&preset=1_NATURAL_COL0R&layers=B04,B03,B02&maxcc=41&gain=0.5&gamma=1&time=2015-01-01|2017-06-18&cloudCorrection=none&atmFilter=&showDates=false&evalscript= (http://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?lat=70.70029171169845&lng=165.69820404052734&zoom=11&preset=1_NATURAL_COL0R&layers=B04,B03,B02&maxcc=41&gain=0.5&gamma=1&time=2015-01-01|2017-06-18&cloudCorrection=none&atmFilter=&showDates=false&evalscript=)
it looks like layers of accretion around a particularly big chunk which ran agground
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Nice!!
For comparison, this is what Worldview shows in the same location and day.
With the new tool, some discussion whether that is "garbage ice" or slush or not will be more easily solved (or will it create some more). https://go.nasa.gov/2uyO8bY
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Time for a little game. Identify this ship in Hudson Strait at noon today! It was sailing eastwards, dodging some smallish floes.
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Time for a little game. Identify this ship in Hudson Strait at noon today! It was sailing eastwards, dodging some smallish floes.
The S.S. Minnow? The Pequod? The USS Caine? Hard to tell from the image. :)
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Seen in the Parry Channel... ...Jabba the Hut?
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Time for a little game. Identify this ship in Hudson Strait at noon today! It was sailing eastwards, dodging some smallish floes.
The S.S. Minnow? The Pequod? The USS Caine? Hard to tell from the image. :)
Between the GPS information embedded in the jpg and the public ship logs it should be possible to work it out exactly. I don't actually know the answer.
It was a beautiful day to fly YOW-YFB: starting about at the tree line in Quebec, there were no clouds. I'll have to go through my collection and pick out some nice ones of e.g. the glacial striations on the ground (caused by the retreat of the ice sheets), and the sea which still has wisps of ice in it. And I caught the final approach on video.
An iPhone looking out a passenger window of a 737 isn't the best photography platform, but it's better than you might expect! The main difficulty is when it decides to focus on an ice crystal instead of the background.
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Summer has arrived to melt away the hardest iron shield of the Arctic Ice at the core of the ocean. Many other areas of the Arctic Ocean shows rapidly fracturing ice cover, or readily pulverized ice - even near the North Pole (good snapshots to be seen in many areas of the ocean in clear skies):
https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Graticule,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2017-07-05&z=3&v=-1009232.144502394,374380.88566378993,-747088.144502394,539500.8856637899
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Lots of activity and Barrow looks down right green!
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Here's a candidate for longest observed contrail.
It extends across the Beaufort Sea from a point north (approximately) of Tuktoyaktuk (NU Canada), to a point north (approximately) of Prudhoe Bay (AK USA).
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Brian Brettschneider @Climatologist49 25m25 minutes ago
Melt stream running through ice at toe of Matanuska Glacier.
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Waves lapping the shore at Barrow Alaska. Wave erosion is bound to increase as larger areas of open water appear. This in addition to melting "perma"frost may cause rapid coastal erosion.
(https://s16.postimg.org/qvnyjlpkl/barrow.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/j2xarmjld/)
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Beautiful view of a cyclone over the Hudson bay from space today
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An entire weekend of strong winds straight up Frobisher Bay and all I got was these lousy little floes.
There's a lot more off in the distance, just not coming up into Koojessee Inlet.
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Those ice floes turned out to be bigger than they first seemed -- as I should have expected, since most of the volume is under the waterline. Here's the dragon of Koojessee Inlet:
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Those ice floes turned out to be bigger than they first seemed -- as I should have expected, since most of the volume is under the waterline. Here's the dragon of Koojessee Inlet:
Summer fashion in Iqaluit, yes? ☺️
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Those ice floes turned out to be bigger than they first seemed -- as I should have expected, since most of the volume is under the waterline.
Really neat to see these photos, thanks numerobis!
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Those ice floes turned out to be bigger than they first seemed -- as I should have expected, since most of the volume is under the waterline. Here's the dragon of Koojessee Inlet:
Summer fashion in Iqaluit, yes? ☺️
A beautiful coat of seal and caribou with beads would be more authentic -- not to mention the fox-lined hood with a baby inside. But ice floes in Iqaluit are like squirrels in Montreal: they bring out the foreigners (like me) to take photos.
The summer temperature here is very strange to me. What the thermometer says is almost irrelevant. What really matters is the sun and wind.
I can sit outside by 4 degrees in shorts & t-shirt if it's sunny with calm winds. Conversely, Monday night in my "late fall" clothes (by Montreal standards), I was huddling next to the campfire and shivering despite it being 10 degrees: it was somewhat windy!
In summer, seems wind direction matters a lot too: wind coming from the southeast is cold, wind coming from the northwest is warm. Southeast is water & ice; northwest is land (with a bit of snow left in the shady spots). In winter it's not so different given that it's snow and ice in all directions.
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Those ice floes turned out to be bigger than they first seemed -- as I should have expected, since most of the volume is under the waterline. Here's the dragon of Koojessee Inlet:
ice floes are prone to the same rules like any other swimming ice including huge icebergs, hence this is the norm, just often forgotten.
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Those ice floes turned out to be bigger than they first seemed -- as I should have expected, since most of the volume is under the waterline. Here's the dragon of Koojessee Inlet:
That's really neat. Probably not too clever to be standing right there though - it's all just good fun until you get squashed by a toppling 50-ton ice Dragon!
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A beautiful early morning in Barrow
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From Anatarctica, appears Suomi is picking up Auroras
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Indeed, its all on...
https://watchers.news/space-weather-station/#geomagnetic-field (https://watchers.news/space-weather-station/#geomagnetic-field)
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Interesting. That'll fluff up the Ionosphere and increase its insulation capacity.
Active Region 2665 produced a long-duration solar flare measuring M2.4 at its peak time on July 14, 2017. Today's event lasted for more than 2 hours; it started at 01:07, peaked at 02:09 and ended at 03:24 UTC. The eruption produced a coronal mass ejection (CME) with an Earth-directed component. This region is now moving away from the center of the Earth-facing Sun but could still produce moderate to strong eruptions in the days ahead.
The eruption was associated with a Type IV radio emission. Type IV emissions occur in association with major eruptions on the Sun and are typically associated with strong coronal mass ejections and solar radiation storms.
This CME is expected to reach Earth late Sunday, July 16 or early Monday, July 17.
(https://watchers.news/data/thumbs/798_296/2017/07/CME-july-14-2017-m2-4-solar-flare.jpg)
Additionally, a 10cm Radio Burst lasting 44 minutes with peak flux of 130 sfu was associated with the event. A 10cm radio burst indicates that the electromagnetic burst associated with a solar flare at the 10cm wavelength was double or greater than the initial 10cm radio background. This can be indicative of significant radio noise in association with a solar flare. This noise is generally short-lived but can cause interference for sensitive receivers including radar, GPS, and satellite communications.
The greater than 10 MeV proton flux at geosynchronous orbit exceeded the S1 - Minor solar radiation storm threshold at 09:00 UTC.
M2.4 solar flare July 14, 2017
M2.4 solar flare July 14, 2017 - SWX Overview
WSA Enlil model below shows a potential glancing blow from a CME observed off the west limb at approximately 13:00 UTC on July 13. The impact is expected midday July 17, and could possibly combine with today's CME.
The model below shows CME impact expected on July 16:
Region 2665 (beta) is now moving away from the center of the Earth-facing Sun, but is still potent enough to produce moderate to strong eruptions in the days ahead.
Sunspots on July 14, 2017
Sunspots on July 14, 2017. Credit: NASA SDO/HMI
A watch has been issued for likely G2 - Moderate geomagnetic storm conditions on July 16 and 17.
WSA-Enlil model run for July 14th CME impact on July 16
SWPC Alerts
Space Weather Message Code: WARPX1
Serial Number: 460
Issue Time: 2017 Jul 14 1755 UTC
EXTENDED WARNING: Proton 10MeV Integral Flux above 10pfu expected
Extension to Serial Number: 459
Valid From: 2017 Jul 14 0530 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2017 Jul 15 1200 UTC
Warning Condition: Persistence
Predicted NOAA Scale: S1 - Minor
Potential Impacts: Radio - Minor impacts on polar HF (high frequency) radio propagation resulting in fades at lower frequencies.
***
Space Weather Message Code: WATA30
Serial Number: 161
Issue Time: 2017 Jul 14 1029 UTC
WATCH: Geomagnetic Storm Category G2 Predicted
Highest Storm Level Predicted by Day:
Jul 15: None (Below G1) Jul 16: G2 (Moderate) Jul 17: G2 (Moderate)
THIS SUPERSEDES ANY/ALL PRIOR WATCHES IN EFFECT
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 55 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Power grid fluctuations can occur. High-latitude power systems may experience voltage alarms.
Spacecraft - Satellite orientation irregularities may occur; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites is possible.
Radio - HF (high frequency) radio propagation can fade at higher latitudes.
Aurora - Aurora may be seen as low as New York to Wisconsin to Washington state.
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Pity it's so bright out at midnight! And cloudy tonight.
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Pity it's so bright out at midnight! And cloudy tonight.
Yes, thick cloud and drizzle at 46 deg south made for poor viewing. :(
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CCGS Amundsen showed up this weekend (I only finally got the picture off my phone).
At the same time, two empty cargo ships showed up. I assume Amundsen escorted them.
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From another planet, glaciers once upon a time. (20.07.2017). Hint: where Odin hasn't defeated yet the Ice Giants... https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor&t=2017-07-20&z=3&v=2324136.6495881416,-2006627.9668042108,2586280.6495881416,-1841507.9668042108
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Numerobis: "At the same time, two empty cargo ships showed up. I assume Amundsen escorted them."
As a resident, what do you suppose two empty cargo ships are doing? These must be about the first ships of the season- and I should have thought that they would be fully laden. Or does all the freight come by Amazon now? ;)
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They looked empty, but one it turns out is a tanker, not a container ship. The other I must have misunderstood what I was seeing, because it started unloading yesterday (why it was out there several days without unloading seems to have confused more than one person). That or the ship I saw was a second tanker, left, and was replaced by the first container ship of the season.
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What timing! Right after my previous comment, a container ship just steamed off. It's not the "empty" ship I'd seen -- for one, there's big cranes on it; for another, its full of containers.
It's a bit hard to observe from where I am because all but one of the ships is hidden behind an island at the entrance to the inlet. There's no port here. At high tide a barge goes out and they haul cargo onto it.
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What timing! Right after my previous comment, a container ship just steamed off. It's not the "empty" ship I'd seen -- for one, there's big cranes on it; for another, its full of containers.
Was ist probably the Emmagracht (aka Mitiq)?
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=PDYX (http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=PDYX)
https://www.marinetraffic.com/de/ais/details/ships/shipid:383086/mmsi:316025029/imo:9081306/vessel:MITIQ (https://www.marinetraffic.com/de/ais/details/ships/shipid:383086/mmsi:316025029/imo:9081306/vessel:MITIQ)
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155166699849442&id=100174284441
The Mitiq arrived Wednesday apparently; if it's the one that steamed away it's ahead of schedule. The ships I saw last weekend must have been the two tankers. The paper also says it's a different icebreaker than I'd thought, unless there are two icebreakers here right now.
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From the wording of the facebook message I would assume, that there were 2 icebreakers there: One that escorted the Mitiq, and one that escorts the two tankers.
If you click on the position-link on the sailwx-webpage I linked before, you will get a map and a list where the other ships in the area are also shown.
According to that, there are two ice-breakers there:
The CCGS Terry Fox and the CCGS Henry Larsen.
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Hopefully I'll be able to take a photo tonight or tomorrow morning. There are two cargo ships and a tanker visible from town, whereas sailwx only shows one.
A bit of ice has floated in as well owing to the SE winds all week long. Might be a pretty sight!
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One ship came in during our hike on Saturday, and another left just before sunset. The barges have been unloading madly.
This panorama shows the ship coming in on the left (Southeast), the suburb of Apex on the right (Northwest), the neighbourhoods of Tundra Ridge and Tundra Valley in the middle, and the fuel tanks that store our precious reserve of deadly fossil fuels. No barges yet visible -- they must have been about to head out with the tide coming in.
The wind was been from the Southeast for days, so the ice moved in. On the far right you can see how big those chunks of ice really are, though they barely float above the water.
You can see the road to Apex on the far right, then a small path down to the water. That was our path. We started hiking a bit before 2pm, when the tide was at 2.6m. About halfway across the inlet I called on the rest of the group to stop taking so many pictures of the growlers, because the tide moves fast. They though I was being a doddering old man but agreed to placate me. When we finally got across after just an hour of walking, the tide was at 4.5m. We had lunch, headed up a small hill, looked back, and that's when my companions realized that the tide is not something you fuck with around here. At the new moon it rises faster than 2 meters per hour!
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Caught a ship at Kimmirut:
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For the earlier discussion: the Mitiq left on the 22nd but not to Pangnirtung -- the schedule flipped two destinations, delaying the Pang trip by five days on account of ice.
Apparently both the Zélada (which has my stuff) and the Qamutik showed up on the 22nd. I don't know which is which in the picture.
A qamutik is the sled that sled dogs pull (though typically these days it'll be a snowmachine instead) -- a common sight around town, most houses have one somewhere on the property. It's quite the fitting name for a cargo ship. Certainly better than the Mitiq, since I'm not sure I want "a large and fast sea duck" carrying my valuable goods.
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One ship came in during our hike on Saturday, and another left just before sunset.
Great picture!
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Absolutely perfect summer's day at Barrow today. The temperature at the time of this picture was 68F.
San Francisco weather!
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Absolutely perfect summer's day at Barrow today. The temperature at the time of this picture was 68F.
San Francisco weather!
i'm curious how much green lawns we gonna see there in a few years, perhaps i'm wrong but it looks a bit like things are getting greener than they were a few years ago. at least i always felt pity for people living in gray and brown sand and gravel and now it's getting almost pretty, relatively though :D
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Tundra is beautiful. From the sky it looks like dirt, but on the ground you see all the flowers and mosses and lichens and low shrubs.
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Tundra is beautiful. From the sky it looks like dirt, but on the ground you see all the flowers and mosses and lichens and low shrubs.
sure, didn't mean country-side, meant within city limits.
except the mosquitos i love tundra as well, since my first wife from russia i had the pleasure to grasp some of it's beauty, even though on the other side of the arctic ocean :-) one of my daughters and 2 grand-kids are currently living in Dudinka (Дудинка) at the Yenisei river (Река енисей) doing some biological research.
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From O-Buoy 14 last night, in the M'Clintock Channel:
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so beautiful
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Tundra is beautiful. From the sky it looks like dirt, but on the ground you see all the flowers and mosses and lichens and low shrubs.
sure, didn't mean country-side, meant within city limits.
Ah, I agree.
I look out onto the inlet, which is beautiful; and tundra in the distance, which is beautiful, and the city dump, which is not. Closer in I look out onto a bunch of shacks, decrepit boats (some of which double as shacks) and rusting containers (idem), dusty roads and walkways, only half of them paved. The tundra is too fragile to do well in town.
Yesterday a friend took us by zodiac out onto the inlet despite rough seas (30+ km/h winds all day). We got a close look at that young sea ice. We tried to go through a channel between some islands, but it was blocked off by "thick first-year ice" as the Canadian Ice Service puts it -- albeit at a much smaller scale than they usually look for. The mostly southeast winds we've had all of July (as opposed to the predominant northwest winds) have kept the town cool, prevented the mosquitoes from breeding, and blown a lot of ice up.
There's no more ice that we can see in Frobisher Bay -- it looks like it's all been blown on shore (except one small chunk we saw floating on its side; presumably it had been on shore, melted down, then floated off with the tide). The ice maps show that this holds most of the way to the mouth of the bay.
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numerobis,
What is the height (above the water) of those pieces of floating ice? (What is the freeboard?)
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fcv2M6Sa.png&hash=0285287d8dd0c6c0afe2bdbebf833a4d)
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numerobis,
What is the height (above the water) of those pieces of floating ice? (What is the freeboard?)
You can see the zodiac I'm in for scale; the ice is 50cm-1m above the water line.
They aren't floating though -- small boats stay well clear of anything that's floating! You can walk across that spot except at high tide.
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Thanks; my best guess was 'most of a meter', but I wondered if my sense of perspective was off, because 3/4 meter freeboard would mean 6.75 meters below (or the mass equivalent spread out), and there isn't much 7+ m thick FYI! Your saying that ice is all grounded makes the scene make sense to me.
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You can actually see the melt line on this ice which became exposed as the tide went out and the ice grounded.
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Quite a nice way to have a look at the shape of the ice below (what would otherwise be) the water line.
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You can actually see the melt line on this ice which became exposed as the tide went out and the ice grounded.
You can see one melt line. There are often several. When the ice blew in, you'd see some ice hoodoos floating in, high above the water -- clearly a remnant of a water line. When the tide receded you'd see the main water line, and sometimes there would be more water lines below. I'm assuming this ice is this thick due largely to getting stacked up on itself.
Some of last weeks ice chunks were house-sized, probably 5m tall and 20x20m or so. They looked solid, not stacked; they made straight vertical cracks through the ice chunks.
First-year ice is sought after for margaritas. It's the perfect grainy texture and saltiness. Had my first on Saturday night.
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First-year ice is sought after for margaritas. It's the perfect grainy texture and saltiness. Had my first on Saturday night.
Better keep that hush hush. If word gets out, it could easily lead to an extra century break. ;D ;D
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A beautiful view of the East Siberian Sea yesterday
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... while over the Kara Sea is whirling a little storm.
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Open water at Eureka on Ellesmere this morning. Currently 2C.
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Open water at Eureka on Ellesmere this morning. Currently 2C.
Nice. Where do you get this image? Is there a webcam?
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Courtesy of the Spanish Neven:
http://banquisaenelartico.blogspot.co.uk/p/webcams.html (http://banquisaenelartico.blogspot.co.uk/p/webcams.html)
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From a Total press release (http://www.total.com/en/news/total-inaugurates-northern-sea-route-lng-carrier-christophe-de-margerie):
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.total.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Fslider_image_960%2Fpublic%2Fthumbnails%2Fimage%2Fc_de_margerie3.jpg&hash=57c8084474aef3b352b4f076423d3779)
From the Northern Sea Route thread, something for you image sleuths.
Could one be forgiven for imagining that the Christophe de Margerie is running astern in that photo? Else the ice is healing up very quickly behind her, and opening obligingly ahead!
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/212611000 (https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/212611000)
The sun/shadow angle looks about right for travelling towards Bering Straight at around 10:00hrs. (If its 22:00hrs then she's going the wrong way, yes Ship Tracker shows her approaching Bering Straight)
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Adam, yes the ship is going backwards!
It is a double acting ship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_acting_ship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_acting_ship)
"The propulsion system of the new gas carrier consists of Azipod type propulsion units. They provide a very high degree of manoeuvrability, and allow use of the stern-first motion (Double Acting Tanker, DAT function) principle, which is necessary to overcome hummocks and heavy ice fields. Uniquely Christophe de Margerie has three Azipods – this is the first time so many of these propulsion units have been installed on an Arctic ice class vessel."
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/unique-ice-breaking-lng-carrier-christophe-de-margerie-ready-to-serve-yamal-lng-project/ (http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/unique-ice-breaking-lng-carrier-christophe-de-margerie-ready-to-serve-yamal-lng-project/)
In thick ice, it is faster when going backwards!
"The stern section is designed to enable navigation in severe ice conditions.
The double-acting tanker capability allows the vessel to break heavy ice in both bow and astern manuoevres.
The vessel proved her capability to move stern-first in 1.5 metres thick ice at a speed of 7.2 knots (target figure was 5 knots) and head-on at a speed of 2.5 knots (target figure was 2 knots)"
http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/christophe-de-margerie-class-icebreaking-lng-carriers/ (http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/christophe-de-margerie-class-icebreaking-lng-carriers/)
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Wow! Fascinating! Basically a prop on a rotatable pier.
http://www04.abb.com/global/seitp/seitp202.nsf/0/589ea2a5cd61753ec12570c9002ab1d1/$file/AzipodNew.pdf (http://www04.abb.com/global/seitp/seitp202.nsf/0/589ea2a5cd61753ec12570c9002ab1d1/$file/AzipodNew.pdf)
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Adam, yes the ship is going backwards!
It is a double acting ship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_acting_ship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_acting_ship)
"The propulsion system of the new gas carrier consists of Azipod type propulsion units. They provide a very high degree of manoeuvrability, and allow use of the stern-first motion (Double Acting Tanker, DAT function) principle, which is necessary to overcome hummocks and heavy ice fields. Uniquely Christophe de Margerie has three Azipods – this is the first time so many of these propulsion units have been installed on an Arctic ice class vessel."
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/unique-ice-breaking-lng-carrier-christophe-de-margerie-ready-to-serve-yamal-lng-project/ (http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/unique-ice-breaking-lng-carrier-christophe-de-margerie-ready-to-serve-yamal-lng-project/)
In thick ice, it is faster when going backwards!
"The stern section is designed to enable navigation in severe ice conditions.
The double-acting tanker capability allows the vessel to break heavy ice in both bow and astern manuoevres.
The vessel proved her capability to move stern-first in 1.5 metres thick ice at a speed of 7.2 knots (target figure was 5 knots) and head-on at a speed of 2.5 knots (target figure was 2 knots)"
http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/christophe-de-margerie-class-icebreaking-lng-carriers/ (http://www.ship-technology.com/projects/christophe-de-margerie-class-icebreaking-lng-carriers/)
perhaps i overlooked, then sorry, but it seems noteworthy that latest those pods/props can be used to crash the ice, with the props themeselves while before recently props had to be protected by either hardware appliances and/or hull shape to produce the right flow to steer the ice clear of the props and/or rudder if there is one (does not apply to pod equiped propulsion systems of course)
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fcv2M6Sa.png&hash=0285287d8dd0c6c0afe2bdbebf833a4d)
Verg !!
Hope you're back for a while.
You've been missed.
Terry
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A big chunk fell off the Petermann 26th/27th July and I missed it!
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Check the Petermann thread in the Greenland sub-forum and you'll never miss calvings again 8)
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Near 85°N, melt pond or polynya(?) formed between August 11 and August 12 (needs click):
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You mean the dark line in the centre of the picture that's obviously a shadow of some kind? You can see the floes within it, so it's not a polynya. It causes even darkening across both the water and ice, so it's not melt ponding. It's a shadow.
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It is also worth checking the false colour images using near infrared channels such as 3,6,7 bands https://go.nasa.gov/2vZiF7I (https://go.nasa.gov/2vZiF7I) which show up clouds against ice (ice red, clouds white)
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I always thought this glacier near Kangerlussuaq is boring and ugly. Not anymore! Quite impressive moraines from which the glacier is starting to retreat. From what I can tell, the north arm will retreat sooner and faster because it appears to be thinner.
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By the way: The moraine may still be from the little ice age. There was no other one around and it looked like the glacier was shearing off the hill side. So retreat may have a significant delay but potential for large increases...
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An apparent warm core "polar low", the Arctic's version of a tropical storm, formed in the middle of Baffin bay. Its location, strictly over water, and its non-frontal structure indicate that it is a warm core, thermodynamic storm. The ocean heat that's driving this storm and the seas that it churns up will melt any remaining sea ice in Baffin bay.
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Very pretty!
There's little ice there anyway; it's mostly further South in Davis Strait, or further North in Nares Strait. But what little ice is in the southern end of Baffin Bay is predicted to move 18 miles further South today. Ice moving at 1.3 km/h is pretty impressively fast!
What's damaging down here is beautiful sun forecast for the next several days. Perfect weather to warm up that water.
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Summer lasts much longer where the last ice remains than it does in the Arctic's central pack. The sun and heat will do it in.
That beautiful little storm is helping to speed up the warm current that runs up the coast of Greenland and the cold current that runs down the coast of Canada. The reason the ice lasted so long is that a very large volume of cold fresh water and sea ice has moved south since last summer.
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Here is an account scanned from Life Magazine written by the skipper of a submarine surfacing at the North Pole, a story often misrepresented on climate denier sites ...
http://TinyURL.com/Skate90DegNorth (http://TinyURL.com/Skate90DegNorth)
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Here is an account scanned from Life Magazine
A story always misrepresented on climate denier sites:
http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2015/02/shock-historical-news-towing-in-at-the-north-pole-in-1958/ (http://GreatWhiteCon.info/2015/02/shock-historical-news-towing-in-at-the-north-pole-in-1958/)
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Thank you A-Team. Very interesting reading.
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This picture will update, but as of 8/26 20utc a very nice picture from our CAA obuoy
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fobuoy.datatransport.org%2Fdata%2Fobuoy%2Fvar%2Fplots%2Fbuoy14%2Fcamera%2Fwebcam.jpg%3Ftimestamp%3D1503778633071&hash=582bd975bf9206026c5e7cd776798797)
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to keep (another) nice image here is a downloaded shot form (local) yesterday evening
105west means UTC-7
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The summer snowfalls in Siberia, not even the north Siberia
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYaj_59lOFv/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYaj_59lOFv/)
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This picture will update, but as of 8/26 20utc a very nice picture from our CAA obuoy
Remarkable, I think, to see so much evidence of slush, eddies and jostling of floes. Lots of compaction and minor stacking and the edge of the local pack part-way to the horizon looks like it is being worked on by wave action.
Compare with the next image posted by Andreas where it is back to the usual millpond.
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The summer snowfalls in Siberia, not even the north Siberia
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYaj_59lOFv/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BYaj_59lOFv/)
Unseasonable & beautiful
Thanks
Terry
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Sentinel Image 05th Sept'17 near Hall Land, NW Greenland. Brown snow, new ice and old ice in the bay.
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It's snowing today in Iqaluit. Winter is coming!
Meanwhile, Montreal canceled the marathon due to heat.
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ficefloe.net%2FAloftcon_Photos%2Falbums%2F2017%2F20170927-0101.jpg&hash=b10c451242ef998802f2ed44a2d1108e)
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Open water photo is from where?
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USS Healy, currently in the middle of the Beaufort sea. Both links give Healy's latest reported position, second link additionally shows the ice edge.
https://icefloe.net/uscgc-healy-track-map (https://icefloe.net/uscgc-healy-track-map)
http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=NEPP (http://www.sailwx.info/shiptrack/shipposition.phtml?call=NEPP)
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Polar Bears on the Wrangel Island, 19 of September
https://vk.com/wall-140300488_116
(https://sun9-15.userapi.com/c840437/v840437818/f4b1/GZdNc5JeT1M.jpg)
(https://sun9-15.userapi.com/c840437/v840437818/f48f/UjzwOIhJYdc.jpg)
(https://sun9-15.userapi.com/c840437/v840437818/f49f/L7m9LJyVLpQ.jpg)
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OMG what an amazing picture. Had no idea they can come in such numbers. First thought those are sheep.
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Is that a whale they are devouring? Could this be a reason for Polar Bears congregating? I cannot fathom that Bears killed the whale so it must have died and washed up on shore.
Or it's not a whale in which case I should be dismissed.
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I am not prepared to dismiss that it is a whale. They do come in different sizes from large to enormous.
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It seemed like a whale to me as well, but I was too afraid to ask...
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Is that a whale they are devouring?
Seems likely
https://www.livescience.com/60569-polar-bears-feast-on-whale-carcass.html (https://www.livescience.com/60569-polar-bears-feast-on-whale-carcass.html)
(Or translate page linked by Pavel above which suggests it is a bowhead whale.)
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A chukchi man.
(https://cdn5.img.ria.ru/images/150602/64/1506026465.jpg)
More pictures here https://ria.ru/society/20171003/1506026173.html (https://ria.ru/society/20171003/1506026173.html)
Some beautiful pictures of the FJL
http://ru.arctic.ru/infographics/20170926/674371.html (http://ru.arctic.ru/infographics/20170926/674371.html)
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Two contrasting screen grabs from the Barrow/Utqiaġvik webcam.
The first, taken at the end of September shows the coast being inundated by storm waves. The sea has broken well inside the storm defences. Something that is becoming far more common on the Alaskan north coast.
The second (8th Oct) shows Barrow developing its snow cover.
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South Baffin is coated in snow now after last night's blizzard (which fell on top of a blizzard a couple weeks ago), and kids are playing street hockey in the snow:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nunatsiaqonline.ca%2Fpub%2Fphotos%2Fhockey_day_pang_2017_kilabuk_d.jpg&hash=aadb5131a9fcb2e437f150407a90b265)
Rosy-cheeked and fierce: a trio of girls in Pangnirtung celebrates World Girls' Hockey Weekend with a scrimmage on snow Oct. 7. This is the second year Pangnirtung has participated in the girls hockey event and, according to local reports, it has been popular. World Girls Hockey Weekend, Oct. 6 to Oct. 8 this year, was launched by the International Ice Hockey Federation and Hockey Canada to help celebrate and grow the female game across the country and around the world. (PHOTO BY DAVID KILABUK)
Friday there was a polar bear in Iqaluit. My partner and I have been walking a friend's dogs right by where the bear was spotted, it's only a couple hundred meters from the nearest homes. Poor bear was shot pretty quickly thereafter.
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.4354771.1507933211!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_620/polar-bear-on-apex-river.jpg) (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/polar-bear-in-iqaluit-1.4354741)
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Winterwonderland in Barrow.
Ocean steaming at -17C.
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Here is the ultimate polar bear picture from Svalbard by Marcus Westberg, part of a quite interesting article on the fjord change there. It loses impact upon size reduction so it needs a click to display properly.
Believe the flowers in front of the bear are purple saxifrage (Saxifraga oppositifolia); the whitish ones don't seem to be Dryas octopetala but most photos of them that I found were just labelled 'wildflowers'. The Svalbard flora web page lists 108 dicots; Cardamine bellidifolia seems a possibility.
Svalbard was totally ice-covered during the Weichselian ice age which ended around 10 000 years ago, so almost all the species would have come in subsequently from Greenland, Canada, Scandinavia and Russia.
http://www.biographic.com/posts/sto/sea-change
http://svalbardflora.no/
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That bear is lounging pretty much exactly like my cats sometimes like to lounge sitting on my lap with two paws bracing themselves to keep from sliding. Somehow I doubt bear would fit in my lap though.
My photo: Skiing last weekend, before a powerful storm blew by. The tank in the background is the diesel for the power station, which is just out of sight below the tank. The lake in the foreground is our city water supply. The dam that forms the lake is right next to the tank. Yet more reason to reduce our grid consumption -- the soot is falling into our water supply!
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First sea ice forming in Barrow?
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Freeze-up in Koojessee Inlet.
The turquoise is the tide coming in over the ice that formed at low tide. Once in a while we'd hear a splash as some of that low-tide ice tore off the bottom and floated up.
You can also see in the reflection of the sun the difference between where there's ice forming on top of the sea and where it's still open water.
This is happening quite quickly: the first ice formed Tuesday just after noon.
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Without a zoom lens I can't capture the beauty of the morning.
The bay is steaming. It's still open water, but the air is -20 C. The islands in the inlet look like they're floating. Then add the sunset on that.
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The Arctic moving image of the day:
http://youtu.be/iDhoHpSJEQE
Via SpaceWeather (http://spaceweather.com/):
On the evening of Nov. 16th, aurora tour guide Tony Bateman of northern Finland was indoors, warming up between auroras, when his surroundings began to vibrate. "There was a huge bang and the cottage shook violently," he reports. "At first I thought it was an earthquake. Or maybe a tree fell on the cottage roof! I walked outside and inspected the trees. Everything looked okay." A quick replay of his aurora webcam solved the mystery. "It was an incredible meteor," he says.
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The Arctic moving image of the day:
http://youtu.be/iDhoHpSJEQE
Via SpaceWeather (http://spaceweather.com/):
"It was an incredible meteor," he says.
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Don't have pix, but 3 stories about meteors here:
One of my astronomy students had really gotten interested in astronomy during my classroom studies & our nighttime mountain top telescope observations, over looking a valley. One night he took his wife out to the mountain top & he pointed out the constellations & a few celestial objects they could see through binoculars. Then she saw a bright light out of the corner of her eye. It was a meteor, but not one 20 to 50 miles away. The meteor came towards them at an angle, burning past them at only 1 or 2 miles distance, descending down the valley. Behind the valley were distant mountains, & the meteor was BELOW the horizon. After passing them, at roughly 3 to 5 miles distance, the meteor blew up & flashed out of sight.
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We were observing at a star party, among high mountains. In the darkness, I was talking with 3 people, who I only saw as dim shadows. Suddenly, a brightness lit up behind me, which I thought was headlights turned on. Then, the incoming meteor, hit the lower atmosphere, & like a huge camera flash, the meteor brightly lit up the mountains for 20 miles around. I turned around to see the meteor dying out. But as I turned, the after-image of the 3 people in the darkness, followed my sight picture on my retinas.
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Was observing a meteor shower at a star party & I had my tripod mounted 20x80 binoculars. One very bright meteor streaked across the sky, & I was barely able to binocular see the tail-end of the meteor streak as it died out. Lots of ohs & ahs for that meteor could be heard in the night, but quickly people looked other places, waiting for more meteors. However, I continued to observe the sky where the meteor died out & shouted out that I could still see the meteor contrail in the sky. People said no way. But those who came over & looked through my binoculars also saw the contrail. Finally, people left. I was trained to observe very low surface brightness galaxies & with those techniques, I continued to observe the contrail. After 15 minutes, I could still see the contrail. Two other people looked through the binoculars, confirming my report. After 20 minutes, I could still see the contrail, but.... no one came to look. They were busy seeing bright meteors, not long gone ultra-dim meteor smoke. ha ha ha
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The finnish astornomical society, Ursa, ( https://www.ursa.fi/english.html (https://www.ursa.fi/english.html) ) has calculated where the meteor landed from received reports. Probably now the remnants are covered in snow, so there will be an attempt to find some of them in the spring.
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A video of a starving polar bear in the Baffin Island
http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/news/171207-polar-bear-starving-iceless-land-vin-spd
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To assert that the death of this polar bear is anything to do with climate change is totally spurious unless there is evidence that this was a young healthy bear in the first place. looks to me like an old bear dying naturally.
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...looks to me like an old bear dying naturally.
You base you conclusion on what evidence?
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The finnish astornomical society, Ursa, ( https://www.ursa.fi/english.html (https://www.ursa.fi/english.html) ) has calculated where the meteor landed from received reports. Probably now the remnants are covered in snow, so there will be an attempt to find some of them in the spring.
So it happens the thing fell on about the remotest area possible to reach by anyone in Finland. Area's close to Russian border so using snowmobile or ATV requires permits and you'd need to have border patrol with you. You can walk or ski on the area freely and possibly meet one of the three persons living in the area. Think central Alaska 30 miles from nearest settlement of 10 people.
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Well Mr. Allen, can you support any claim that man burning FF had a part in the demise of this or any other polar bear?
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To me this bear looks far more hungering than the bear discussed?
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A video of a starving polar bear in the Baffin Island
http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/news/171207-polar-bear-starving-iceless-land-vin-spd
is there any evidence that this bear is not dying according to his age or starving because of injuries or illness. i hope it's clear that i'm totally convinced of man made climate change happening and that there are consequences for fauna and flora but in another article it was claimed that this bear is dying naturally, not climate related and while i can't tell the facts, the question alone implies that such images should only be posted with claiming a climate change relation if there is either evidence and/or founded reason to believe that at least in parts it's related.
i know that whenver i posted such "warnings" in the past they were not helpful so whoever doesn't like this post can save his breath. i strongly believe that half-true or untrue or not proven information will be exploited by the contrarians and not help our cause but damage it.
please remember that the post starts and is a question, followed by the reason to ask, not a statement, hence if anyone knows where is evidence that this image is not out of context but indeed shows a bear, starving BECAUSE of climate change, be so kind and link me there because the purpose of all is to gather knowledge based on facts or reason.
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...i strongly believe that half-true or untrue or not proven information will be exploited by the contrarians and not help our cause but damage it.
I don't care what the contrarians think/do, and I don't think we have a "cause" other than to be fair witness.
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Photographers of recent polar bear photo answer questions
https://www.facebook.com/notes/national-geographic-magazine/we-are-the-photographers-who-filmed-the-dying-polar-bearhere-we-answer-your-ques/10155749602286708/
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/starving-polar-bear-video-climate-change-spd/
Pretty darn easy to find out the circumstances here guys .... no need for an argument 8)
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It's not argument, Kate. It's discussion. When the motive is to pin this poor animal
s demise on AGW, I think it is lazy and not at all scientific. It is presented by some to alarm.
I read your accompanying articles and nothing was answered regarding climate change causing this bear to starve....although lack of ice there may be a direct result of AGW. This bear certainly could have cancer, or be very old...who knows?
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It's not argument, Kate. It's discussion.
The same kind of discussion we had in the 60s and 70s wrt smoking. ;)
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The same kind of discussion we had in the 60s and 70s wrt smoking
How do you copy...like in the box with quotes? This copy and paste is not the same.
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The same kind of discussion we had in the 60s and 70s wrt smoking
The same kind of discussion we had in the 60s and 70s wrt smoking
How do you copy...like in the box with quotes? This copy and paste is not the same.
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It is presented by some to alarm.
Since this is an images thread I herewith challenge you (reader) to present one interesting image of a nontrivial planetary biogeophysical phenomenon (preferably arctic) that can be argued to have no causal connection to the present carbon pulse. 8)
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Keeping a careful lookout - no sign of A68 here. Did see a couple of Christmas dolphins though....
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I totally agree with Steve:
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I totally agree with Steve:
Me too, but not on much else.
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Nice photo (click to view properly) below of walrus hauling out on some Arctic sea ice, where and when not provided.
Despite it all being in plain view, I am totally baffled (as usual) as to how it should be scored for area, extent, concentration, thickness and volume. For example, what is the freeboard on that slanted floe behind the walrus? How should that jumble of snow, ice and air be treated? What do the various satellites see looking down?
Life is so much easier when some algorithm with 25 km x 25 km does the scoring and gives us a single number for the whole Northern Hemisphere.
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Here is an odd bit of floe motion that occurred this fall during the big ice pack lurch to the west and CW rotation, Nov 27 - Dec 17 . The circled block of ice is pinned between the immovable islands of the CAA and the main westward moving ice pack. It responds by rotating in position.
We see this same effect happening to tributary ice streams over a 15 year time scale on the east side of Petermann glacier, see gif animations on that forum.
It is also very similar to what happened over 20 myr to the Transverse Range off Santa Barbara, Ca (the same area in the news because of the Thomas Fire and subsequent landslides). The plate tectonics there was animated years ago by Tanya Atwater of UCSB.
http://emvc.geol.ucsb.edu/2_infopgs/IP4WNACal/dSoCalifTect.html
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Via Twitter (https://twitter.com/SeaEagleAv/status/951240606109589504):
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTN8QqlVwAAcVU4.jpg)
Flying over the Confederation Bridge, Prince Edward Island at 7500'
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Curious: I could download and watch A-Team's "SoCalif_Tectonics (T Atwater).mp4" but not his "transverse range block rotation in CAA.mp4". (I could also download the GIF.)
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Missing codec? Here it is as gif, slighty reduced.
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Thanks, Sleepy!
Totally cool depiction of the rolling floe.
And A-Team's geological parallel is now in context. (I just wish it would take as long for the Arctic ice to melt as it will take for San Francisco to enter Canada.)
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Ilulissat, Greenland
simply beautiful
8)
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I got a nice view of the floe edge on my flight in on Friday. It's not too far out of town.
(The Canadian Ice Service maps show this as 100% land fast ice.)
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Here far more accurate bathymetry (ARDEM 2.0) of the Bering, East Siberian, Chukchi and Beaufort seas is used to recreate Beringia at various sea level heights during the late Pleistocene and Holocene. (Various hill-shaded versions have appeared before on other forums.)
The Bering Strait itself has a 53m sill applicable the whole time as a lack of nearby ice sheets means no isostatic correction is necessary in this region (eg Wrangel Island was never glaciated and only became an island at -35m). The earliest inflows of Pacific waters to the Arctic Ocean have been dated accurately to 11,000 BP by sediment core layers; that is quite a good match to the ARDEM depiction at -53m.
There's also special interest in the inundation history of the ESAS in view of thawing currently submerged methane deposits in what was once land permafrost. The animation here shows continental shelf out to 200m depth although sea level was only -145m at the Last Glacial Maximum.
We might also wonder about how sea level affected circulation in a one-portal Arctic Ocean and what vast exposed continental shelves meant for ice pack persistence and mobility.
Meltwater pulse 1A (MWP1a) was a period of rapid post-glacial sea level rise amounting to some 20 m in 450 years. The rate of rise peaked about 13,800 years ago; eustatic sea level at the Bering Strait at that time looks to be ~about 70m (wiki).
Here the animation runs forward and back at 10m increments from current sea level to the 200m isobath, which takes 21 frames. It could also be made at 5m or even 1m increments which would involve 42 and 210 frames respectively. These would barely remain displayable here as gifs because of file size. Alternatively the animation could be stepped in smaller increments around special depths such as opening of the Strait.
These higher resolution videos aren't feasible to make manually but using Dryland's new automation tool in PanoplyCl, a simple tabulation of sea level vs year can draw the map frames while inserting the applicable numbers (not shown) in each. The scripting language is transparent and a snippet is shown below:
// java -jar PanoplyCL.jar 53.pcl
// Open a dataset.
var ncdata1 = panoply.openDataset ( "/ARDEMv2.0.nc" );
// Select a variable.
var ncvar1 = ncdata1.getVariable ( "z" );
// Create the plot.
var myplot = panoply.createPlot ( "lonlat", ncvar1 );
myplot.set ( "title-text", "Land exposed in Beringia" );
myplot.set ( "subtitle-text", "[yyyy] years BP at sea level [xxx] m" );
myplot.set ( "font-master", "SansSerif" );
myplot.set ( "interpolate", true );
myplot.set ( "scale-colorbar", "CB_RdYlGn.cpt" );
myplot.set ( "scale-width", 40 );
myplot.set ( "scale-min", [-53.0] );
myplot.set ( "scale-max", 0.0 );
myplot.set ( "proj-name", "Stereographic" );
myplot.set ( "proj-lon0", -176.0 );
myplot.set ( "proj-lat0", 68.0 );
myplot.set ( "proj-xparam-1", 17.5 );
// Save plot image to disk.
myplot.saveImage ( "PNG", "53.png" );
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Beringia land exposure at various Holocene sea levels.gif
That is more than good, A-team. But as always, a grovelling complaint or begging-letter for advice.
Is there an app (free of course) that lets me open and run the file but also lets me tell the file to speed up or slow down or even pause to capture an image ?
Yours, in hope,
Gerontocrat.
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I bet excavations on those isolated flooded islands would be fascinating, to see what life evolved up there.
(Of course, I guess it would have been ice so megafauna could just walk off the islands.)
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free app .. open and run the gif animation speed up slow down pause t capture an image ?
Sure, ImageJ, Gimp, Preview are free and easy all platform apps but first you might try just double-clicking on the download to see if your computer has something on board already that will open gifs. Web browsers work but are just players.
excavations on those isolated flooded islands would be fascinating, to see what life evolved up there. it would have been ice so megafauna could just walk off the islands.)
Wooly mammoths get all the attention. Populations got stranded on both Wrangel and St Paul after rising sea level cut them off from the mainland. The ones on Wrangel persisted for several millennia but eventually crashed from genetic inbreeding. The ones on St Paul supposedly trashed their only waterhole and eventually lost their access to drinkable water. The pygmy mammoths on the Channel Islands off California apparently swam there at LGM low sea stand.
I was not involved professionally with these particular mammoths but rather in sequencing the first nuclear genome, from frozen hair shafts, of an earlier one from mainland Siberia dated right at the LGM. I can take a look tomorrow to see at the sea level ARDEM has these islands getting cut off and when. However sea level rise was fairly slow plus if they could swim or walk off on ice, the dates will not be that pinned down that well.
The real challenge in Beringia is finding camps, villages, tools, boats or dna of the earliest transiting humans. It would almost all be underwater by now and archaeology in Arctic waters is not a pleasant snorkel like off Crete.
It's a nuisance having to digitize these sea level graphs which is necessary for the flooding animation to rise at the correct historic rate, so if anyone has seen a tabulation or polynomial fit or more recent version of the top graphic below, please post. Otherwise the (sea level, year) pairs will have to come off a finely regridded graphic.
https://io9.gizmodo.com/5896262/the-last-mammoths-died-out-just-3600-years-agobut-they-should-have-survived
http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1006601
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160801163855.htm
http://www.pnas.org/content/113/33/9310.full
https://www.nps.gov/chis/learn/historyculture/pygmymammoth.htm
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Below, the graph above of sea level rise versus calendar year is digitized and implemented as a drowning map of Beringia. By 8,500 years BP, it was practically gone because the Beaufort has very little continental shelf and the East Siberian and Bering are broad but almost flat. The animation thus shows the inundation of land permafrost with consequences for the generation and escape of methane. The land bridge between continents disappeared at 11,000 BP as the Pacific and Arctic Oceans connected.
The following slide show illustrates that Beringia would not have been much enlarged had sea level dropped much further during the last glaciation, from -126 m to exposing the -250 m isobath.
yearBP,-mslr);(20000,-126.0,);(19500,-124.7,);(19000,-123.3,);(18500,-122.0,);(18000,-120.7,);(17500,-118.9,);(17000,-117.2,);(16500,-115.5,);(16000,-113.7,);(15500,-111.9,);(15000,-110.0,);(14500,-98.0,);(14000,-86.0,);(13500,-81.9,);(13000,-77.7,);(12500,-70.6,);(12000,-63.5,);(11500,-62.1,);(11000,-60.8,);(10500,-52.6,);(10000,-44.4,);(9500,-35.7,);(9000,-26.9,);(8500,-20.9,);(8000,-14.8,);(7500,-9.6,);(7000,-4.3,);(6500,-3.7,);(6000,-3.1,);(5500,-2.7,);(5000,-2.3,);(4500,-2.0,);(4000,-1.6,);(3500,-1.4,);(3000,-1.3,);(2500,-1.1,);(2000,-0.9,);(1500,-0.7,);(1000,-0.5,);(500,-0.2,);(,0,-0.0)
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Sorry A-Team,
I looked but could not find
It's a nuisance having to digitize these sea level graphs which is necessary for the flooding animation to rise at the correct historic rate, so if anyone has seen a tabulation or polynomial fit or more recent version of the top graphic below, please post. Otherwise the (sea level, year) pairs will have to come off a finely regridded graphic.
I have downloaded gimp - will have a super time learning it? There are two definitions of GIMP below - I wonder which one I will end up using.
gimp - proper definition
noun
1.
twisted silk, worsted, or cotton with cord or wire running through it, used chiefly as upholstery trimming.
2.
fishing line made of silk bound with wire.
Urban Dictionary (slang): gimp
(1) a derrogatory term for someone that is disabled or has a medicial problem that results in physical impairment. (2) An insult implying that someone is incompetent, stupid, etc. Can also be used to imply that the person is uncool or can't/won't do what everyone else is doing. (3) A sex slave or submissive, usually male, ...
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General Image Manipulation Program. Unfortunate acronym but still makes for a good search term in conjunction with a tutorial topic or mission-critical plugin. ImageJ is far easier to use if just looking for a gif frame or montage viewing tool.
Here is a more uptodate treatment of sea level rise from global (Arctic not tabulated) ice volumes as well. The 2014 article has been cited 364 times, the place to look for 2017-18 updates (see below).
Sea level and global ice volumes from the Last Glacial Maximum to the Holocene
K Lambecka et al
http://www.pnas.org/content/111/43/15296.full.pdf open source
The major cause of sea-level change during ice ages is the exchange of water between ice and ocean and the planet’s dynamic response to the changing surface load. Inversion of ∼1,000 observations for the past 35,000 yr from localities far from former ice margins has provided new constraints on the fluctuation of ice volume in this interval. Key results are:
(i) a rapid final fall in global sea level of ∼40 m in <2,000 y at the onset of the glacial maximum ∼30,000 y before present (30 ka BP)
(ii) a slow fall to −134 m from 29 to 21 ka BP with a maximum grounded ice volume of ∼52 × 106 km3 greater than today
(iii) after an initial short duration rapid rise and a short interval of near-constant sea level, the main phase of deglaciation occurred from ∼16.5 ka BP to ∼8.2 ka BP at an average rate of rise of 12 m·ka−1 punctuated by periods of greater, particularly at 14.5– 14.0 ka BP at ≥40 mm·y−1 (MWP-1A), and lesser, from 12.5 to 11.5 ka BP (Younger Dryas), rates
(iv) no evidence for a global MWP-1B event at ∼11.3 ka BP
(v) a progressive decrease in the rate of rise from 8.2 ka to ∼2.5 ka BP, after which ocean volumes
remained nearly constant until the renewed sea-level rise at 100–150 y ago, with no evidence of oscillations exceeding ∼15–20 cm in time intervals ≥200 y from 6 to 0.15 ka BP
Oceanographic and Climatic Change in the Bering Sea, Last Glacial Maximum to Holocene
BM Pelto, BE Caissie, ST Petsch
Paleoceanography 2018
Post-glacial sea level rise led to a direct connection between the Arctic and Pacific
Oceans via the Bering Strait. Consequently, the Bering Sea experienced changes in
connectivity, size and sediment sources that were among the most drastic of any ocean...
The De Long Trough: a newly discovered glacial trough on the East Siberian continental margin
M O'Regan et al
Climate of the Past 2017
Ice sheets extending over parts of the East Siberian continental shelf have been
proposed for the last glacial period and during the larger Pleistocene glaciations. The
sparse data available over this sector of the Arctic Ocean have left the timing, extent and ...
Deglacial sea level history of the East Siberian Sea and Chukchi Sea margins
TM Cronin et al
Climate of the Past 2017
Deglacial (12.8–10.7 ka) sea level history on the East Siberian continental shelf
and upper continental slope was reconstructed using new geophysical records and
sediment cores taken during Leg 2 of the 2014 SWERUS-C3 expedition.
Younger-Dryas cooling and sea-ice feedbacks were prominent features of the Pleistocene-Holocene transition in Arctic Alaska
BV Gaglioti et al
Quaternary Science 2017
Declining sea-ice extent is currently amplifying climate warming in the Arctic.
Instrumental records at high latitudes are too short-term to provide sufficient historical
context for these trends, so paleoclimate archives are needed to better understand the...
Post-glacial flooding of the Bering Land Bridge dated to 11 cal ka BP based on new geophysical and sediment records
M Jakobsson et al
The Bering Strait connects the Arctic and Pacific oceans and separates the North
American and Asian landmasses. The presently shallow (∼ 53 m) strait was exposed during
the sea level lowstand of the last glacial period, which permitted human migration across ...
Deglaciation of the Laurentide Ice Sheet from the Last Glacial Maximum.
CR Stokes 2017 - dro.dur.ac.uk
The last deglaciation of the Laurentide Ice Sheet (LIS) was associated with major
reorganisations in the ocean-climate system and its retreat also represents a valuable
analogue for understanding the rates and mechanisms of ice sheet collapse...
Caribbean Reef Drowning During Slow Mid-Holocene Sea-Level Rise
P Blanchon et al 2017 osf.io
Predicting if reefs can keep pace with future sea-level (SL) rise is problematic
because accretion occurs over geological timescales. For example, although meltwater
pulses drowned reefs during postglacial SL rise, drowning has also been reported during...
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The article below takes a close look at when Beringia shrunk to the point of isolating St. Paul Island and its mammoths from the mainland.
I could not quite confirm their dates using the latest Ardem 2.0 bathymetry which shows St Paul still having a land bridge at 12,500. It's murky though as mammoths were strong swimmers, salt water marshes might have offered habitat, Panoply linearly interpolates, and the authors use 'years ago' rather than BP (1950) of the sea level rise graph. They might also have used nautical charts which surprisingly are less accurate that Ardem's all-encompassing sonor records. Wrangel Island will be similarly ambiguous on date of mammoth isolation.
http://www.pnas.org/content/113/33/9310.full
St. Paul Island is a remnant of the Bering Land Bridge that became isolated between 14,700 and 13,500 y ago due to sea level rise during the last deglaciation. The island rapidly shrank in area until 9,000 y ago, and then slowly shrank until 6,000 y ago.. Today, St. Paul is highly isolated (>450 km from Alaska and Aleutians) and is characterized by maximum elevation 203 m above current sea level, a few freshwater lakes, no springs or streams, no permafrost, and moderately productive moss-herbaceous tundra vegetation.. Apart from a small population of reindeer introduced to the island in 1911, the largest terrestrial mammal on St. Paul today is the Arctic fox.
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(v) a progressive decrease in the rate of rise from 8.2 ka to ∼2.5 ka BP, after which ocean volumes
remained nearly constant until the renewed sea-level rise at 100–150 y ago, with no evidence of oscillations exceeding ∼15–20 cm in time intervals ≥200 y from 6 to 0.15 ka BP
That’s a nice and favorable environment for civilization to grow. Stable temperatures and stable sea levels at a point in time when most of the surface is ice free for most of the year and the warm places are not too warm. 6 thousand years of paradise for H. Sapiens.
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Thank you A-Team for this wonderful set of animations.
The work you generally do is mostly concerned with current events, and is fascinating and informative in its own right, however this work fills me with wild surmises- how amazing it must have been to have witnessed the submerging of Beringia (well, part of it- I'm quite dry on this bit).
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We got some water rain here overnight. For water, it takes a while to penetrate the ice of the lake. Granted, it's not arctic here, rather the northernmost hemiboreal, but we get to see some normal wintery phenomena regularly still. Photo is about a week too late to include some visiting Steller's Eiders, which occasionally migrate through Finland.
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how amazing it must have been to have witnessed the submerging of Beringia
It must have been quite the sight, people, bison, horses, lions, wooly rhinos, mammoths lining up to the land bridge at 11,001 BP but still hoping to wade across the sill at low tide. Same for the closing of the Isthmus of Panama at 3,500,000.
How the Isthmus of Panama Put Ice in the Arctic : Oceanus Magazine by GH Haug Mar 22, 2004
www.whoi.edu/oceanus/feature/how-the-isthmus-of-panama-put-ice-in-the-arctic
https://phys.org/news/2015-04-evidence-isthmus-panama-earlier-thought.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4988774/
http://www.pnas.org/content/112/19/6110
http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/3/6/e1602321.full
A growing body of evidence suggests that the formation of the Isthmus of Panama partitioned the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans and fundamentally changed global ocean circulation. The closing of the Central American Seaway initially may have warmed Earth's climate, but then set the stage for glaciation... Closure is implicated in four major events in the history of Earth: the onset of the Thermohaline Circulation, the onset of Northern Hemisphere glaciation, the birth of the Caribbean Sea, and the Great American Biotic Interchange...
Here are some shaded relief bathymetry images, produced in-house by the Ardem group -- of areas near the Bering Strait that we re especially interested in. The first uses a logarithmic color palette and hill-shading, which is effective in highlighting bottom structures (such as fault lines that might provide vents for subsurface methane).
The animation shows the dramatic improvements the Arden project made vis-a-vis the older IBCAO. It requires a click to show at the full resolution the authors intended. The upper portion shows most of the ESAS area where Shakhova and Semiletova do their submerged permafrost and methane release studies.
They entered some 600,000 triples (lat,lon, depth) off 315 historic Russian nautical charts from the Laptev, East Siberian, Chukchi, Bering, and Sea of Okhotsk. Those, plus sonar surveys and previous IBCAO bathymetry make up the content of the open source netCDF file used to make the imagery above. Even better, ARDEM data is offered as a geolocated Geo2D file (unlike IBCAO) which is critical to Panoply map-making.
Technical note: We could do the log scale readily in Panoply from the netCDF file and the latter by exporting both a grayscale with darkness proportional to log(depth) and a color version using our preferred Panoply palette. Then ImageJ could draw depths using the interactive '3D Surface Plot' and the color version used as drape. There's even a way now for web browsers to allow users to interact with files like this. Panoply can also put out co-registered maps of bathymetry and Arctic ice displays such as UH sea ice concentration or Ascat scattering.
We have created the Alaska Region Digital Elevation Model (ARDEM), a bathymetric grid with nominal 1-km grid spacing over the domain 45ºN-80ºN and 130ºE-120ºW. The DEM is based nearly exclusively on ship sounding datapoints, including Electronic Navigation Chart point soundings, research vessel underway soundings, multibeam swath mapping datasets and digitized point soundings from paper nautical charts.
Depths from the International Bathymetric Chart of the Arctic Ocean (IBCAO) grid are used in the northern Chukchi Sea, the Beaufort Sea, and the northern East Siberian Sea.
In order to assist users that have interest in employing a combined bathymetric-topographic DEM, we have spliced the ocean DEM grid with land elevations from the Global Land One-kilometer Base Elevation (GLOBE) 1-km open source DEM....
The ARDEM grid is based in part on our previous digitization of 139 Russian nautical charts and chart inserts. In this project, we digitized 153 additional charts and inserts in order to increase data density in coastal arctic regions having sparse data coverage.
https://www.uaf.edu/cfos/research/projects/alaska-region-digital-ele/
http://s3.nprb.org/projects/40093f37-6464-439e-a836-c84a2998ecec/FinalReport1225.pdf
https://eos.org/project-updates/sounding-northern-seas
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Here is a kaleidoscopic view of four seasons of ice export out south through channels in the Canadian Arctic Archipelago (ie the CAA garlic press). The dates run from 15 Sept to 30 Jan for the years shown CW as 2017-18 (UL), 2016-17 (UR), 2015-16 (LR) and 2014-15 (LL).
The easiest way to get oriented is by locating Banks Island. The view extends east to encompass Ellesmere Island, Nares Strait and Lincoln Sea. This type of visualization does bring four years into good position for visual comparison on simultaneous dates but that is offset by the possible confusion that reflections bring. The indexed color version in ICA2 has some advantages though it loses the literal image sense of the original
Note that despite noise in the satellite image brought by passing weather systems, the land and Greenland ice cap are quite stably presented over the four year time span.
The longer term significance of this export mechanism comes as the Northwest Passages open earlier and stay open longer. Once the ice is gone there, ice to the north in the Arctic Ocean proper experiences much less resistance to export through the open waters of the channels.
The Beaufort years that developed a long streamer parallel to the Alaskan coast are shown in chronological succession in the final 79 day movie ending on Jan 30th. These years do not include 2016-17 or 2012-13.
The final movie looks at the origin of Fram export for all eight years: it is predominantly from the Laptev and Kara but includes some central ice pack. (The TransArctic drift has not been operative since 2010.) The last four years are across the top; the previous four along the bottom ending in 2010-11 in lower right.
It might be worth considering changing admissible forum width to 720x720 to accommodate .mov, .avi .mp4 as that seems the standard dimension in this realm (though custom dimensions are possible provided both are even). Mpeg offers excellent compression of gifs but if another round of approximation is forced on it, there will be degradation of satellite image quality.
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good morning
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A 200 x 70 km block of ice in McClure Strait stuck its head out into the Beaufort on 14 Jan 2018 as the whole Arctic ice pack lifts off but then retreats. Much more rapid clearing of the CAA than in situ melting is thus possible through this popping up and shearing off mechanism. which would be followed by transport and subsequent oblivion in the Beaufort-Chukchi.
The significance would not so much be this block of ice but rather early opening of the garlic press to the south, indeed a Northwest Passage. This illustrates once again why decadal trending of global surface temperatures and static thermodynamic melt will get Arctic outcomes hopelessly wrong and in turn mis-time the feedbacks.
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That image shows pumping action which will drive fresh water from the Beaufort sea through the CAA. Even if the ice gets held up there is a sea surface height gradient that causes Arctic ocean water to flow towards the low SSH Labrador sea.
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Worldview image of the Bering Sea with ice nearing the remote St. Matthew Island. Uninhabited, despite being 43rd largest island in the USA.
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Thought I'd liven up the image thread with an image taken half an hour after and towards the sunrise cross the frozen lake :P ::) 8)
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Where is this frozen lake? Nice picure btw.
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Where is this frozen lake? Nice picure btw.
Thanks and it's the lower half :D ;D . Some snow on top. Nearest lake to where I live.
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I may have missed something - but "half an hour after" what? And where?
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I may have missed something - but "half an hour after" what? And where?
perhaps Pmt111500 thinks that lots of people knowing where he lives is not a good idea?
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I may have missed something - but "half an hour after" what? And where?
perhaps Pmt111500 thinks that lots of people knowing where he lives is not a good idea?
I've not exactly hidden it very well, but anyway, not very much advertising it on the net. I've once been a victim to an illegal hack, so it's possible many details are public anyway. Getting too old and crippled to care much about assholes, be it individuals or organizations.
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I may have missed something - but "half an hour after" what? And where?
perhaps Pmt111500 thinks that lots of people knowing where he lives is not a good idea?
Fair enough - and normally I wouldn't have asked, if it wasn't for the implication that the picture was taken after an event that the reader should be aware of?
But of course it doesn't matter at all - the picture is good and it's refreshing to see proper ice and snow every now and then, here in Sicily it's raining and "cold", only 12 degrees!
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I may have missed something - but "half an hour after" what? And where?
perhaps Pmt111500 thinks that lots of people knowing where he lives is not a good idea?
Fair enough - and normally I wouldn't have asked, if it wasn't for the implication that the picture was taken after an event that the reader should be aware of?
But of course it doesn't matter at all - the picture is good and it's refreshing to see proper ice and snow every now and then, here in Sicily it's raining and "cold", only 12 degrees!
yeah, matter of factly it looks very much the same like when i was looking out the windown from my cottage in nova scotia once upon a time when i lived there and very much similar like many lakes across canada and te US whle crossing them with skidoos many many years ago ;) so it could be in many places within a certain range of latitued across the north american continent.
always have to be carful not to show too much while sharing images or videos, not a good idea as it was mentioned
closest guess would be somewhere south to the south west of the great lakes, ohio, missouri etc. for one but that's just gaming for the fun of it LOL because there are places in manitoba and ontario looking very much similar like in the "Kenora" Region, thousands of corners like that up there.
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Half an hour after sunrise, and towards the sunrise.
I can't tell you where -- the image was taken on an LG phone but it has no GPS information.
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Nearby salmon- or rather trout run over the rapid gathers various types of ice when temperatures drop enough. Yellowish coloration is of clay the river runs through. How do you turn these images right way up using phone??
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Don't know, but here it is:
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Thanks Tor. I've been trying to record some of the winter phenomena for others here to see. I thought it might be nice for people here who don't have a cold winter.
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Thanks Tor. I've been trying to record some of the winter phenomena for others here to see. I thought it might be nice for people here who don't have a cold winter.
Thanks for sharing this Pmt, it looks beautiful. I often feel I should have been born somewhere colder - though I suppose even here in the UK it was colder back when I was born - and I think this amazing photo confirms that!
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I came across this feature while looking at the Kara Sea today. A repeated fracture that rotates around an island near Dikson.
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This is considered nuts by most finns and swedes too, I guess. More common is to throw small rocks sliding on the ice to get the sound.
https://youtu.be/v3O9vNi-dkA
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I hear those sounds just about every winter on the local ponds, usually when the air has suddenly warmed up. There isn't anything on the ice at the time, it's just sections of the ice cracking and the rest of the ice acting like a drum.
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Yep, nothing much special about the sounds. The fellow skating on ice that makes the sound is though. That's inviting a fall-through. I guess he's wearing a divers' scuba suit under clothing.
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This is considered nuts by most finns and swedes too, I guess. More common is to throw small rocks sliding on the ice to get the sound.
https://youtu.be/v3O9vNi-dkA
Crikey, look at 1:40 as he goes past the camera and you can see the whole surface flexing under his weight.
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Yep, he's nuts. :)
Been shovelling snow for the past two hours, apparent temperature -20°C. That's enough for me, but at least I'm still here.
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-30119410 (http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-30119410)
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Despite warnings of a Siberian snowmageddon here in the UK I just spent 10 minutes clearing my drive of a couple of centimetres of light snow here on the edge of the Peak District. BBC reporters around the country are reporting in detail on the simple fact that it's a bit chilly out there. Meanwhile flights are delayed and schools are closed.
We're clearly a bunch of great big softies :)
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"Galmandsværk" should always be avoided, whether it is snow shovelling, black ice skating or messing with the global climate.
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Despite warnings of a Siberian snowmageddon here in the UK I just spent 10 minutes clearing my drive of a couple of centimetres of light snow here on the edge of the Peak District. BBC reporters around the country are reporting in detail on the simple fact that it's a bit chilly out there. Meanwhile flights are delayed and schools are closed.
We're clearly a bunch of great big softies :)
In places like ours that only occasionally snow, many drivers seem to be utterly incompetent and cause accidents when only a few snowflakes are on the road. Closing schools may be prudent.
I'm quite sure autonomous vehicles will be more intelligent than human drivers in such conditions. I eagerly await their roll-out.
Driving in the snow won't be their great challenge. Dealing with incompetent human drivers will test the limits of artificial intelligence.
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I wondered what "Galmandsværk" meant. Google Translate said it (from Danish) meant "Galmandsværk" in English! Boy, that cleared things up.
Further searching reveals this exchange (https://sseennsseess.com/tag/galmandsvaerk/):
Interviewer:
Lets talk about your brand new and upcoming album “Galmandsværk” (“act of madness”), a solo project where you, for the first time, are using your real name Uffe Lorenzen. Why the album title and why use your real name at this point in your career?
Artist:
Actually, the proper translation would be “the work of a madman” but it has double meanings as “gal” can mean both mad as in crazy or mad as in angry in Danish. Also, its a very old expression and unique for Danish language that it is one word. No other language has a word like that as far as I know.
I've skated on new inch-thick ice. Quite a wonderful experience; but best done when small.
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I'm quite sure autonomous vehicles will be more intelligent than human drivers in such conditions.
I'm sure they will be - and also MUCH stupider than human drivers in other conditions. At the moment they're like the T-Rex in Jurassic Park: if you're not moving, they can't see you. It's how they determine what's just background, and what they need to watch out for - and it works right up to the point they accelerate into a stationary fire truck.
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-autopilot-why-crash-radar/
All visual systems have bugs, as evidenced by various optical illusions, change blindness, etc. Machine vision is no exception. What fools us won't fool a car, and what fools a car won't fool us. And that's just detecting the surroundings, let alone appropriate decision making.
https://nerdist.com/trap-a-self-driving-car/
Then there's the security perspective. Do I trust any computer manufacturer to make a system that can't be defeated by appropriate malware? Malware that could be as simple and portable banner flung over a bridge with an image that crashes the vision software at 70mph...
I don't think the future will be autonomous, ever. Rather, it will be a case of mutual assistance. Each different technology - human wetware vs machine circuits - will have its own "blind spots". Use both, and they complement each other's deficiencies. So you get ABS, lane monitoring, intelligent routing, traffic updates, etc - but you also have a human in the loop to see the things the car can't, and cope with the stuff that's outside its programming.
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The unprecedented lack of sea ice in the Bering Sea this winter has been getting plenty of attention on the forum. I came across this face book post from Diomede Island, in the middle of the Bering Straits. Mid february, it is always ice bound....until this year. Turn on the volume and listen to the waves crashing into the community and to the reaction from the villagers.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/152751678184818/permalink/1488269024633070/
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I don't think the future will be autonomous, ever.
Neither do I, there are some weird things to solve, also when it comes to legislation.
No wonder I looked like a Yeti yesterday after sholvelling snow. ;D
Still green though in the southern parts.
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Arctic Circle Monument in Norway.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fepod.usra.edu%2F.a%2F6a0105371bb32c970b01b7c943ab0e970b-pi&hash=fe5d294b03ac72ea6aa94d58542c0dd3)
http://epod.usra.edu/blog/2018/02/arctic-circle-monument-in-norway.html (http://epod.usra.edu/blog/2018/02/arctic-circle-monument-in-norway.html)
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The south coast of the Baltic sea, Kaliningrad, Russia, this weekend
(https://pp.userapi.com/c7001/v7001024/44c4d/Xj0Se5KsFcY.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c841538/v841538586/750a4/VmzUSE48fZc.jpg)
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https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/1464840/arctic-deployed-navy-submarines-participate-in-ice-exercise-2018/ (https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/1464840/arctic-deployed-navy-submarines-participate-in-ice-exercise-2018/)
The submarine USS Connecticut and fast-attack submarine USS Hartford breakthrough the ice in support of Ice Exercise 2018 near Ice Camp Skate in the Arctic Circle, March 10, 2018. ICEX 2018 is a five-week exercise that allows the Navy to assess its operational readiness in the Arctic, increase experience in the region, advance understanding of the Arctic environment and continue to develop relationships with other services, allies and partner organizations. Navy photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Micheal H. Lee
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A heard of reindeer driven through central Luleå for the first time in 50 years.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/norrbotten/har-drivs-renhjorden-genom-centrala-lulea (https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/norrbotten/har-drivs-renhjorden-genom-centrala-lulea)
They will return in a couple of weeks.
Click on "Visa alla" at the picture in the link for a few more pictures.
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Missed the sunset by a quarter, but got the plane instead. Flat river ice from extrusion and freezing of meltwater on top of earlier ice
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I just had a grey day on this side of Frobisher Bay, being jealous of the sunny other side. Then the sun popped out from between the clouds and the horizon.
The daylight gets 6.5 minutes longer every day around the equinox. It moves even faster higher up in the Arctic. Spring is definitely here.
(And the forecast for tonight is -30)
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We are watching those cloud streets heading south from Svalbard, meanwhile in Nordkapp, Norway - conditions and the risk of big avalanches is extremely high in several parts of Norway and is still increasing due to continuous snowfall there. Some roads have been closed in several days in a row and some shops within isolated areas are running out of some sorts of food. Photo: Camilla Daae-Qvale via Severe Weather Scandinavia.
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We are watching those cloud streets heading south from Svalbard, meanwhile in Nordkapp, Norway - conditions and the risk of big avalanches is extremely high in several parts of Norway and is still increasing due to continuous snowfall there. Some roads have been closed in several days in a row and some shops within isolated areas are running out of some sorts of food. Photo: Camilla Daae-Qvale via Severe Weather Scandinavia.
I should feel guilty for this, but somehow that picture can say nothing else to me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdufVsPXtCE
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Romett - Amazing picture - between the devil and the deep blue sea .....
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will we ever get the 'what happens next?' update ?
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will we ever get the 'what happens next?' update ?
After image is here - not the same place, but highway between Kvalsund and Hammerfest on Friday. Serious warnings still in effect, as snow still coming down (from Svalbard / Barents region). Photo: Tore Nilsen / NTB Scanpix.
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Series of amazing Iceberg related images here:
http://avannaa.org/?page_id=569 (http://avannaa.org/?page_id=569)
The artist is planning to be on the Barneo ice camp this year.
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Spring is about to commence around here so possibly no more images from here before Dec-2018.
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See, spring? :P ;D 8). Really, it's mainly observable on southern slopes yet.
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Reminds me of the song
When it's springtime in Alaska, it's 40 below. (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=when+it%27s+springtime+in+alaska&view=detail&mid=96FF76576F5DCBD2B1CD96FF76576F5DCBD2B1CD&FORM=VIRE)
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Reminds me of the song
When it's springtime in Alaska, it's 40 below. (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=when+it%27s+springtime+in+alaska&view=detail&mid=96FF76576F5DCBD2B1CD96FF76576F5DCBD2B1CD&FORM=VIRE)
Any musical lyrics about thawing in December or January?
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Back to normal and spring in Stockholm two days ago, you don't need to understand the language to get the picture.
https://youtu.be/5tcNvXb5ptY
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Yep, definitely spring. One day of sun and another day rain, and you can see it's a beach. A bit cold yet, though. Ice is probably still about a foot thick but I'm not going to check it.
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+20°C here yesterday. Been away for the weekend but still found some time to prune some apple trees yesterday afternoon. Missis with the secateurs and me with the chainsaw, electric of course...
Here's a less nice, not very Arctic (Bømlo is on the Norwegian west coast), image. :(
https://www.bt.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/gPB4k0/--Forst-reagerte-jeg-med-stor-overraskelse-Deretter-folte-jeg-bare-vemmelse- (https://www.bt.no/nyheter/lokalt/i/gPB4k0/--Forst-reagerte-jeg-med-stor-overraskelse-Deretter-folte-jeg-bare-vemmelse-)
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Monday last week I was stuck in a cabin in a wind storm. It was above freezing out, bright and sunny... with winds forecast to be 50 gusting to 90 km/h. We don't have accurate measurement of the conditions at the cabin. Certainly it was tricky going to the outhouse, and that was the only reason pressing enough to go outside (that and picking up a BBQ grill that was blowing away, with the propane tank thankfully still attached).
I managed to take a video while standing in the lee of the cabin. It took a couple takes to make a 10s video where I didn't lose my balance.
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Ugh, I thought I'd picked the right format to have it stream off the page here.
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Are you on a MAC numerobis? Let's try this, your video is a lot nicer than that ugly picture I posted above.
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Worldview is awesome
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OK, I'll try mp4 next time. Regardless your platform you can use Handbreak (open-source) to convert.
I need to take photography lessons to learn how to take in the northern lights. Gorgeous last night: you could see the white aurora turned ruddy from the last glow of twilight.
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I need to take photography lessons to learn how to take in the northern lights. Gorgeous last night: you could see the white aurora turned ruddy from the last glow of twilight.
If you have a proper camera and a stand it's not hard. The sensitivity of human eyesight corresponds to about ISO800 f.4 and 10sec ... With a ~ normal 45mm lens. Of course if you want to film those auroras the equipment needed becomes rather expensive very fast. With high to very high ISO and a short length objective you can drop the exposure time, but probably not enough to get along without the stand. With a regular camera it's easy to go beyond normal eyesight, but what would be the point. Unless you're trying to get a photo that has a dot in the place where Neptune is. Sensitive cameras should be able to do that, and Uranus is an easy target for these. True astrophotography is though out of scope,, of course and requires tracking devices. And read some about ccd-noise and how to minimize it, this becomes more important at high ISO.
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Tanana River, Alaska. Scene of the Annual Nenana Ice Classic.
http://www.nenanaakiceclassic.com/index.htm
Update on April 2nd:
The ice is 26.8 inches thick and ten inches thinner than it was in 2017. The reason the ice is thinner is because there was significantly more snow fall this year which insulated the ice.
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2018 Nenana Ice Classic (http://www.nenanaakiceclassic.com/2018%20Brochure.pdf)
Not paying $2.50 :P, but April 22 at 3:30 pm. (early break-up date, typical time of day)
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My phone on default settings can pick up aurora as a smudge, so I don’t think I need even a 10s exposure.
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My phone on default settings can pick up aurora as a smudge, so I don’t think I need even a 10s exposure.
Yea, phone cameras gather light pretty well. I've not made a comparison to human eyesight with those, but I guess 10 sec would be too much... So 2-3 s?
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Fantastic pic from the Ilulissat Ice Hotel web cam including a passing avian visitor
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Open water now visible at Nome, Alaska. Spring has arrived with full force.
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“Daily evolution of the record low Bering sea ice since March - now nearly all within the Bering Strait. This retreat is weeks earlier than the climatological average - crazy!
+ Data: 3-km AMSR2 processed by @unihh @cenunihh
+ Graphics: http://sites.uci.edu/zlabe/arctic-sea-ice-extentconcentration/ “
https://twitter.com/ZLabe/status/987353368996675585
Image below; GIF at the link.
“Latest reports from along coastal Alaska: https://www.arcus.org/siwo
"It’s only April, and we’ve already waves washing the beach."
"Our "last resort" hunting in poor ice seasons has been to head east to hunt in Kotzebue Sound but the bay is looking to be ice free early as well."
https://twitter.com/ZLabe/status/987436002615558144
Image below.
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“Daily evolution of the record low Bering sea ice since March - now nearly all within the Bering Strait. This retreat is weeks earlier than the climatological average - crazy!
“Latest reports from along coastal Alaska: https://www.arcus.org/siwo
"It’s only April, and we’ve already waves washing the beach."
"Our "last resort" hunting in poor ice seasons has been to head east to hunt in Kotzebue Sound but the bay is looking to be ice free early as well."
Following the links I found this site:-
https://www.arcus.org/siwo Sea Ice for Walrus Outlook (SIWO)
Overview
Sea Ice for Walrus Outlook
The Sea Ice for Walrus Outlook (SIWO) is a resource for Alaska Native subsistence hunters, coastal communities, and others interested in sea ice and walrus. The SIWO provides weekly reports from April through June with information on weather and sea ice conditions relevant to walrus in the northern Bering Sea and southern Chukchi Sea regions of Alaska.
Has really good stuff by people on the ground about local conditions and such good photos.
Near St. Lawrence Island
There is very open ice pack to the north and east of Savoonga with medium to vast floes. Otherwise open water surrounds St. Lawrence Island.
Nome
Shorefast ice extends up to 2 nm offshore from Nome, then 1 to 2 nm of very open pack ice with small to big floes. Beyond the very open pack ice is widespread very close pack ice with vast to giant floes.
Wales to Shishmaref
Shorefast ice extends up to 1.5 nm northwest of the coast from Wales to Shishmaref. Beyond the shorefast ice is 8 to 10 nm of very open pack ice, then very close pack ice with vast to giant floes beyond that.
Diomede
Open pack ice surrounds Diomede Island with medium to vast floes.
ps: On zlabes twitter thing was a reply from someone about how late their lake was melting this year. It is in Minnesota.
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See 15 years of change in the Arctic
Mesmerizing new video, made from 15 years of satellite data, shows the waxing and waning of Arctic ice and snow as the seasons change.
http://earthsky.org/earth/15-years-of-change-in-arctic-videoG
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Thanks. Great video (note: remove the G at the end of the link). Of note: "melt pond blue" (esp. 2012) - I wonder how no one managed to automate a melt pond index based on the bluish tinge. The 2012 GAC. The 2016 early Beaufort massacre. And much more.
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See 15 years of change in the Arctic
Mesmerizing new video, made from 15 years of satellite data, shows the waxing and waning of Arctic ice and snow as the seasons change.
http://earthsky.org/earth/15-years-of-change-in-arctic-videoG
I was a bit confused until I realized it was only doing April to September (max to min?). Nice video, but I would have liked it a lot more if it did the full timeline.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyoH43BFuJE
This raven is surfing the Canadian flag. Your argument is invalid.
Filmed in Iqaluit. This raven has been trying to surf that flag every windy day this spring, and is getting quite good at it. A couple other ravens have tried and failed to replicate the feat.
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During my study at the University I read this comment from Encyclopaedia Britannica (1994 Edition [sic]). The expert author found it still necessary to remind readers that no more "terra incognita" were to be found there. Ironically, the Arctic today remains equally less known due to our self-inflicted change to its sensitive cryosphere. Marching ever onwards, ever backwards... ???
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We are watching those cloud streets heading south from Svalbard, meanwhile in Nordkapp, Norway - conditions and the risk of big avalanches is extremely high in several parts of Norway and is still increasing due to continuous snowfall there. Some roads have been closed in several days in a row and some shops within isolated areas are running out of some sorts of food. Photo: Camilla Daae-Qvale via Severe Weather Scandinavia.
any news as to what happened?
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I haven't tried to upload an mp4 yet, but I'll try.
Barrow webcam, neat to see the sun riding the horizon.
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/feeds/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/movies/10018_webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images_2018-5-11_1-day-animation
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Barrow webcam, neat to see the sun riding the horizon.
so unfamiliar each time when we southerlies see the sun north of the place where an image was taken from :-)
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Oops, I discovered a melt pond on the sea ice.
It had little effect on albedo, or else I'd have avoided it.
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Come on, numerobis, don't make the situation worse than it already is! ;D
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The sea ice with big tides forms impressive ice cliffs where the topography is steep, rather than forming rough ice over a flatter sea floor.
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Apparently your forum software doesn’t handle orientation tags? The world is not actually upside down here.
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And here I thought you had mistakenly posted a picture of the Antarctic.
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Yes it looks much better the right way round!
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Apparently your forum software doesn’t handle orientation tags? The world is not actually upside down here.
And here I was being amazed at such a clear reflection of that cliff face in the water...
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Taking a quick snap of a pond on the sea ice during a brief spot of sun. The water is brackish. Shortly after this photo, an amphipod (kinguk as they're known here) floated up through a crack in the ice and tootled around.
(Otherwise it's been grey most of the month.)
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Today's GEOS 16 whole disk image shows heat and water vapor transport from the tropics around central America all the way to the Arctic ocean. This "Greenland vortex" pattern has driven cold air and water southeastwards in the Labrador sea on the west side of Greenland while driving warm air and warm water northeastwards from the southeastern coast of the U.S. towards Europe and the Barents sea. It has produced a very unusual SST anomaly map in the Atlantic and is intensifying the Urals trough and warming in the Laptev sea, by intensifying the atmospheric ridge over Norway and western Europe. The ocean ridges have been stronger than normal this year, increasing heat transport into the Arctic.
This satellite photo shows an extraordinary example of the enhanced south to north heat transport by exaggerated Rossby waves that Jennifer Francis has written about.
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Good stuff. Couldn't resist looking up amphipod (pix of kinguk were all boats), here https://www.google.com/search?q=amphipod+pictures (https://www.google.com/search?q=amphipod+pictures) Quite a range of images.
Scary; (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRXtuL1jWPHoPNP2QlRQA2-WVuDVSyQrT6tezGjC_7ypbaMqnGV-A)
Huge: (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTjfR6cyvMy7thTxpAAv2Gkt-UQe9mxNM4SfKr81F-8utldKFb54Q)
Most seem more like this though they mostly seem more transparent: (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLeXC4LTagd1t1fEyGVEjxH8KctCOXTLRyAAzwsqqfwIPBXFbV)
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Great stuff Susan. We've just experienced eight months of very similar atmospheric and ssta conditions in the south Pacific. In new Zealand this led to a three month drought up to new year with less than ten percent of the rainfall we usually get in the period. Then until this week its rained incessantly. Six months of hot humid classical tropical wet season with big thunderstorms nearly every afternoon, record floods, hot balmy nights. Now it may be snapping back into dry season mode again with the subtropical high belt signs of wanting to squat on the lower south island again and a week of dry chisp sunny weather. It would not surprise me if the same is about to happen in the northern temperate belt. Particularly Europe.
Those amphipods are amazing. I understand they make great eating. The philipino deep ocean ones are even larger and much enjoyed. The locals eat the Kinguk numerobis?
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The local birds and fish do. Humans eat the fish (but not the shorebirds).
Kinguk in Iqaluit are the type from Susan’s picture with several in one hand.
Shrimp are known as large kinguk: kingukjuaq or kingukpak (depending on where).
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Here is that amazing image of Antarctic ice thickness from Kevin Pluck, Bedmap 2 data. It needs a click to see at full size. He also has a very nice bedrock elevation map, which with the thickness data, allows vertical transects to made through the south pole (and animated).
This grayscale has some very interesting features revealed by Glasbey-type lookup tables.
https://earther.com/youve-never-seen-a-map-of-antarctica-like-this-before-1825650822
https://pixelmoversandmakers.com/blog
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbqzUmTW4AAH0Mf.jpg
https://twitter.com/kevpluck
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Couldn't resist this. An amazed ogre gazing at the gap in the Laptev Sea. No photoshopping, I promise -- the outline of the island is as it appears on Worldview.
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Here is that amazing image of Antarctic ice thickness from Kevin Pluck, Bedmap 2 data. It needs a click to see at full size. He also has a very nice bedrock elevation map, which with the thickness data, allows vertical transects to made through the south pole (and animated).
This grayscale has some very interesting features revealed by Glasbey-type lookup tables.
https://earther.com/youve-never-seen-a-map-of-antarctica-like-this-before-1825650822
https://pixelmoversandmakers.com/blog
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbqzUmTW4AAH0Mf.jpg
https://twitter.com/kevpluck
Hi!
Thank you for posting my image and for your very nice comments. The Glasbey LUT colours are very interesting and the image you created looks like it highlights the places that have been interpolated. Perhaps it could be sent to the BedMap people with a note saying "send your planes here" although I'm sure they know exactly where the holes are.
I'll definitely be using Glasbey colours for the future!
Here is a link to download the full resolution 6668x6668 images: https://we.tl/l9RI2hj97O (beware: this link expires in a few days).
Kev.
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Couldn't resist this. An amazed ogre gazing at the gap in the Laptev Sea. No photoshopping, I promise -- the outline of the island is as it appears on Worldview.
He ain't gazing, he BLOWING!
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(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FAFduy%2F28adcd6750.jpg&hash=18470182fe8e85d75a38eccc42b7d913)
Interesting rope-like image [of overturning current?] south east of Svalbard 10th
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Images of a an unusual perfectly formed small-scale cyclone-like system offshore the Siberian side of Bering sea (just east of Korfa Bay), sent by, and relayed from, a friend who's an avid reader of this forum:
(https://media.joomeo.com/large/5b251e81cc7a4.jpg) (https://public.joomeo.com/files/5b251e81cc7a4)
Pareidolia warranted! :-)
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Images of a an unusual perfectly formed small-scale cyclone-like system offshore the Siberian side of Bering sea (just east of Korfa Bay), sent by, and relayed from, a friend who's an avid reader of this forum:
(https://media.joomeo.com/large/5b251e81cc7a4.jpg) (https://public.joomeo.com/files/5b251e81cc7a4)
Pareidolia warranted! :-)
*Wow*! I remember seeing weather formations like that pop up all over the 2013 map, sometimes quite a bit smaller.
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Images of a an unusual perfectly formed small-scale cyclone-like system offshore the Siberian side of Bering sea (just east of Korfa Bay), sent by, and relayed from, a friend who's an avid reader of this forum:
nice kakadu indeed
but seriously, a great image, kudos
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Yes, gorgeous. :)
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Melting Arctic ice off the east coast of Greenland shows its artistic potential. Abstract expressionist rather than the lovely and sensitive bird portrait above...
June 18 Worldview, unaltered.
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Images of a an unusual perfectly formed small-scale cyclone-like system offshore the Siberian side of Bering sea (just east of Korfa Bay), sent by, and relayed from, a friend who's an avid reader of this forum:
nice kakadu indeed
Hate to be pedantic but Kakadu is a National Park in Australia:
https://parksaustralia.gov.au/kakadu/
I think you mean a Kakapo:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakapo
Which is a bird from New Zealand.
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Images of a an unusual perfectly formed small-scale cyclone-like system offshore the Siberian side of Bering sea (just east of Korfa Bay), sent by, and relayed from, a friend who's an avid reader of this forum:
nice kakadu indeed
Hate to be pedantic but Kakadu is a National Park in Australia:
https://parksaustralia.gov.au/kakadu/
I think you mean a Kakapo:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakapo
Which is a bird from New Zealand.
I actually believe he meant a cockatoo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatoo), called kakadu in German.
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nice kakadu indeed
Hate to be pedantic but Kakadu is a National Park in Australia:
https://parksaustralia.gov.au/kakadu/
I actually believe he meant a cockatoo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatoo), called kakadu in German.
Ah I think you may be right! According to Wikipedia " The name Kakadu may come from the mispronunciation of Gaagudju, which is the name of an Aboriginal language spoken in the northern part of the park. This name may derive from the Indonesian word kakatuwah, (via Dutch kaketoe and German Kakadu) subsequently Anglicised as "cockatoo".
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I dunno... It looks a LOT like a kakapo to me....
nice kakadu indeed
Hate to be pedantic but Kakadu is a National Park in Australia:
https://parksaustralia.gov.au/kakadu/
I actually believe he meant a cockatoo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatoo), called kakadu in German.
Ah I think you may be right! According to Wikipedia " The name Kakadu may come from the mispronunciation of Gaagudju, which is the name of an Aboriginal language spoken in the northern part of the park. This name may derive from the Indonesian word kakatuwah, (via Dutch kaketoe and German Kakadu) subsequently Anglicised as "cockatoo".
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I actually believe he meant a cockatoo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockatoo), called kakadu in German.
yes "kakadu" in german, so i learned the english word for it today, thanks oren helpful as always ;)
they are white and bear a kind of crown (crest) that is normally retracted which is when they look like the upthread image in question, gonna find an image now
EDIT: found :-)
A cockatoo is a parrot that is any of the 21 species belonging to the bird family Cacatuidae, the only family in the superfamily Cacatuoidea. Along with the Psittacoidea and the Strigopoidea, they make up the order Psittaciformes. Wikipedia
Scientific name: Cacatuidae
Higher classification: Parrot
Lifespan: Cockatiel: 10 – 14 years, Galah: 40 years, MORE
Mass: Cockatiel: 3.2 oz, Galah: 11 oz, MORE Encyclopedia of Life
Length: Cockatiel: 12 – 13 in., Sulphur-crested cockatoo: 20 in., White cockatoo: 18 in., Major Mitchell's cockatoo: 20 – 24 in. Encyclopedia of Life
Did you know: The cockatiel is about 32 cm (13 in) long and is by far the smallest and lightest
cockatoo. wikipedia.org
german (plural) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakadus
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But did you guys know that Kakadu used to be a discotheque in the 1990s in Split, Croatia? ;)
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But did you guys know that Kakadu used to be a discotheque in the 1990s in Split, Croatia? ;)
Gulp. This changes ... everything.
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While you all are still on it ;) How about Kaketoe?
Vernacular names
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Bahasa Indonesia: Kakatua
беларуская: Какаду
Boarisch: Kakadu
čeština: Kakaduovití
Deutsch: Kakadus
English: Cockatoos
español: Cacatúas
français: Cacatoès
hrvatski: Kakadui
italiano: Cacatuidi
lietuvių: Kakadu
magyar: Kakadufélék
македонски: Какадуа
Nederlands: Kaketoes
日本語: オウム科
norsk: Kakaduer
norsk nynorsk: Kakaduer
polski: Kakadu
português: Cacatuas
suomi: Kakadut
svenska: Kakaduor
ไทย: นกกระตั้ว
https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cacatuidae
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But did you guys know that Kakadu used to be a discotheque in the 1990s in Split, Croatia? ;)
after my time. I was in Split in 1980.
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Ice cave in Iceland.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fepod.usra.edu%2F.a%2F6a0105371bb32c970b0224e034e475200d-750wi&hash=07ba272b612259bad258cccaab5e76c8)
From http://epod.usra.edu/blog/2018/06/ice-cave-beauty.html
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Gents,
Kakadu Bar also happens to be the name of a strip club in Copenhagen, although I must admit, I have never been there.
I still wonder though, how small can these Polar Lows actually be? With potentially only isolated ice islands in the Arctic Ocean, will we see several of these features at the same time in the not so distant future?
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Gents,
Kakadu Bar also happens to be the name of a strip club in Copenhagen, although I must admit, I have never been there.
I still wonder though, how small can these Polar Lows actually be? With potentially only isolated ice islands in the Arctic Ocean, will we see several of these features at the same time in the not so distant future?
I remember us finding handfuls of them on satellite maps, only smaller, during that very strange summer we had in 2013. They left disturbed trails in the low clouds and fog which persisted for long periods of time, because how otherwise still the air was.
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FWIW..... ....I was just remembering it's been fifteen years now since my youngest graduated high school. I took her to Alaska and made it all the way to Barrow for the blanket-toss festival.
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What a lot of wonderful material. Thank you all!!
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Well, so I have a little story to tell from Barrow (was up there 15 years ago this week.)
They have this thing called the "blanket-toss" festival at the solstice every year. The Inuit folk gather round an enormous sealskin blanket and pick it up and use it as a sort of trampoline. Young folk take turns, seeing who can bounce the highest. The original purpose of this, they told me, was to provide a means of keeping a lookout for passing bowhead whales. You see, they were a long way from the nearest tree. The only wood they had was driftwood they picked up from the shoreline. This was all used to make frames for sealskin canoes which were used to go out in and catch whales. So there was no wood left to build a watchtower with. You would want to know there was a whale out there before you go paddling off, after all. Hence..... ....the blanket-toss.
Perhaps another forum member knows more of this? I am only repeating what people told me in Barrow.
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"What are you kids doing with my best blanket?"
"We're, um... watching for whales, Mum!"
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Name of town has been changed.
Utqiagvik
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Herd of zebras glimpsed in the Kara Sea. ::)
Well, actually some very strongly barred cloud formations which seem to have been subjected to a very regular large-scale shearing of air masses after the ribbons of cloud formed. Any other knowledge/ideas on this?
Both images from Worldview, unaltered. The second image is for the regional context.
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Those are clouds formed from Lee Waves
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Those are clouds formed from Lee Waves
Thanks. I looked them up. Fascinating! Like air in a wind instrument, only gravity-assisted.
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Quiz time: where is this?
I love watching the ice pour through this strait. In this image it looks like a child's face in profile at lower left, blowing frosty breath in the cold winter air.
(https://i.imgur.com/bNdyLGQ.png)
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Hi Everyone
I'm not sure of the best place to ask this, I'd be grateful of your help:
I am hoping to find a live feed from a webcam located out on the sea ice. It seems like the ones I can check on the webcam page aren't working this year. I can see the Barrow/Utqiagvik & Summit Camp ones are live.
But I was hoping to include a sea ice one to be running on a screen beside a art piece about sea ice loss I am making for an exhibition that will be on show from August til early November so I thought would capture the max period of ice decline.
Thanks
Clare
:)
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There are quite a few webcams around the arctic, but unfortunately none on the sea ice itself, and most webcams are in relatively southern locations with no sea ice. Here's a web page with most of these webcams.
http://banquisaenelartico.blogspot.com/p/webcams.html (http://banquisaenelartico.blogspot.com/p/webcams.html)
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Thanks Oren, yes I had checked there too. All sorts of v interesting cams but not quite what I think would work.
Clare
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You might want to take a look at http://obuoy.datatransport.org/ .
There where no replacements deployed, so the last footage is from 2017 (obuoy 14). Select an 'OBuoy' on the upper left and then 'Movie' at the bottom.
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Thank you Flocke! This might just do the trick. ;D I'll see if DH will help me download it & maybe just use 2017's section slowed down & playing in a loop.....
Clare
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Phytoplankton in ther Chukchi Sea.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/92412/churning-in-the-chukchi-sea
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Phytoplankton in ther Chukchi Sea.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/92412/churning-in-the-chukchi-sea
Had a look - here is the image
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cute :-*
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Chewing on plastic?
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Chewing on plastic?
no the baby bears ;)
i remember great images from thunderstorms and lightnings which many found great to look at, even though i'm sure that the ship crews or house owners below those clouds or that got hit by lightnings were not so happy or found it great.
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Thanks to pikaia & gerontocrat.
Phytoplankton in ther Chukchi Sea.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/92412/churning-in-the-chukchi-sea
Had a look - here is the image
That's pretty compelling visual proof we are changing the chemistry of the planet. I saw a time lapsed animation of annual algal blooms in the Gulf of Mexico that really demonstrated how much damage these things cause.
This is a leading cause of deoxygenation in the arctic. Carbon Brief covered this last month:
"How global warming is causing ocean oxygen levels to fall"
https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-how-global-warming-is-causing-ocean-oxygen-levels-to-fall
Research shows that human-caused global warming is the principal cause of marine oxygen loss. Humans also play an additional role through the input of nutrients to the oceans in coastal regions, though the individual processes at play are not straightforward to disentangle.
Warming affects the ocean and its dissolved oxygen content in several ways. Among other things, it influences the solubility of oxygen in the water. The warmer the water, the less gas that can dissolve in it.
Until now, this process mainly affected the upper few hundred meters of the oceans, which have been in contact with the atmosphere most recently. This effect explains up to 20% of the total marine oxygen loss so far and about 50% of that in the upper 1,000 metres of the oceans.
In addition, warming alters patterns of global ocean circulation, which affects the mixing of oxygen-rich surface waters with deeper oxygen-poor water. It also changes how quickly organisms metabolise and respire, which affects consumption of marine oxygen.
Finally, there are indirect impacts of warming on upper-ocean nutrient supply and subsequent production and downward export of organic matter available for respiration throughout the ocean.
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Winter has returned to mountains near Eureka, Ellesmere island. Not sure of the elevation but you can see the sea. Maybe 400m?
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The Barrow webcam images yesterday showed the breakup of the offshore grounded ice.
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(https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/92000/92462/gulfoffinland_oli_2018199.jpg)
This phytoplankton bloom is in the Baltic.
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This phytoplankton bloom is in the Baltic.
Very pretty but not a hopeful sign of things now and to come. Recent paper ofn the subject. It is us wot dunnit.
https://www.biogeosciences.net/15/3975/2018/bg-15-3975-2018.pdf
Abstract. The anthropogenically forced expansion of coastal
hypoxia is a major environmental problem affecting coastal
ecosystems and biogeochemical cycles throughout the world.
The Baltic Sea is a semi-enclosed shelf sea whose central
deep basins have been highly prone to deoxygenation during
its Holocene history, as shown previously by numerous paleoenvironmental
studies. However, long-term data on past
fluctuations in the intensity of hypoxia in the coastal zone
of the Baltic Sea are largely lacking, despite the significant
role of these areas in retaining nutrients derived from the
catchment. Here we present a 1500-year multiproxy record
of near-bottom water redox changes from the coastal zone of
the northern Baltic Sea, encompassing the climatic phases of
the Medieval Climate Anomaly (MCA), the Little Ice Age
(LIA), and the Modern Warm Period (MoWP). Our reconstruction
shows that although multicentennial climate variability
has modulated the depositional conditions and delivery
of organic matter (OM) to the basin the modern aggravation
of coastal hypoxia is unprecedented and, in addition to
gradual changes in the basin configuration, it must have been
forced by excess human-induced nutrient loading. Alongside
the anthropogenic nutrient input, the progressive deoxygenation
since the beginning of the 1900s was fueled by the combined
effects of gradual shoaling of the basin and warming
climate, which amplified sediment focusing and increased
the vulnerability to hypoxia. Importantly, the eutrophication
of coastal waters in our study area began decades earlier than
previously thought, leading to a marked aggravation of hypoxia
in the 1950s.
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Veering off topic - but one thing leads to another:-
https://e360.yale.edu/features/can-the-world-find-solutions-to-the-nitrogen-pollution-crisis
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Another "off topic" ... Here is a 'sketch' of Antarctica's Larsen Deer via today (http://bslmagb.nerc-bas.ac.uk/iwsviewer/?image=DataPolarview/111_S1jpeg2000_201807/S1B_EW_GRDM_1SDH_20180723T001423_6844_S_1.8bit.jp2)'s PolarView (https://www.polarview.aq/antarctic): suitable for cave art, if you ask me!
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(https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/92000/92483/hudson_tmo_2018203.jpg)
Hudson Bay, July 22.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/92483/there-goes-the-ice
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Another sample of Cave Art here from Frederikshåb Isblink:
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Perusing around Worldview, noted a few lakes still frozen on Quebec’s Ungava Peninsula. Some smaller lakes within the borders of Pingualuit National Park and a larger lake (named ?) a bit south of there.
I checked Worldview images 2000-2017 and this appears to be latest date into the summer that the larger lake still mostly ice covered.
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Quite a lot of fog in Barrow Strait today. It finishes at Griffith Island (alt 130m), near Resolute - see below.
See Worldview (https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2018-08-01-T00%3A00%3A00Z&z=3&v=-1422661.4132432225,-1135170.5322237103,-1176901.4132432225,-1009346.5322237103). Worth following back down the Strait for more wonderful effects.
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I made this a few years ago. The video shows drifting sea ice around Hopen.
https://www.youtube.com/v/YBTVJIH6En8&t=4s
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Fantastic video!
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Melting Arctic Ocean sea bed may have revealed ancient Arctic Mammoth or Arctic Camel carcass. Will methane clathrates surface next? In any case this makes best Arctic Image of the Day for some time... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mysterious-giant-hairy-sea-monster-leaves-locals-baffled-as-it-washes-up-on-a-beach-on-the-pacific-coast-of-russia/ar-BBLZ3OG?ocid=spartanntp
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Melting Arctic Ocean sea bed may have revealed ancient Arctic Mammoth or Arctic Camel carcass. Will methane clathrates surface next? In any case this makes best Arctic Image of the Day for some time... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mysterious-giant-hairy-sea-monster-leaves-locals-baffled-as-it-washes-up-on-a-beach-on-the-pacific-coast-of-russia/ar-BBLZ3OG?ocid=spartanntp
this is what happens to a whale carcase...https://www.unilad.co.uk/pics/scientists-reveal-massive-hairy-sea-beast-washed-shore-actually/
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this is what happens to a whale carcase...https://www.unilad.co.uk/pics/scientists-reveal-massive-hairy-sea-beast-washed-shore-actually/
Alas images in link are gone. Somewhere I read this "hair" is a result of decomposing muscle fibers.
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Ward Hunt Ice Shelf on Ellsemere Island has collapsed in last few days
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Ward Hunt Ice Shelf on Ellsemere Island has collapsed in last few days
Well that certainly seems notable. Was that the last remnant of the N. American ice sheet of the last glaciation? If so, seems some memorial should be organized. Maybe there's another intact fragment somewhere. Obviously, not my area of expertise.
Regardless, thanks for pointing out the development.
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Paper describing extent of the Ward Hunt Ice shelf and major calving, 1961-1962:
https://www.igsoc.org/journal/4/34/igs_journal_vol04_issue034_pg415-424.pdf (https://www.igsoc.org/journal/4/34/igs_journal_vol04_issue034_pg415-424.pdf)
Major crack in Ward Hunt Ice shelf reported by NASA:
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/earth/f_iceshelf.html (https://www.nasa.gov/missions/earth/f_iceshelf.html)
Discussion of state of Ward Hunt Ice shelf on this forum, 2013, unfortunate that many image links are broken:
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php?topic=219.0 (https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php?topic=219.0)
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Like air in a wind instrument, only gravity-assisted.
After diligent decades of work, oboist Heinz Holliger extracted wondrously beautiful performances of baroque concertos for the notoriously difficult-to-play oboe. Later, he dabbled in archaic modern music. One album he rendered, must have been a compilation (with emphasis on the word pile) of the ugliest sounds he ever produced from the oboe. The album made you feel you were in a large tunnel, dripping with spit (& other offal) produced by a giant ugly oger, playing a woodwind instrument(the tunnel). Never could I play the album, without getting sick & I had to stop the album. The album missed its calling & WASN'T used in any of the Lord of the Rings movies, depicting giants, trolls, orcs & ogres playing dirges to the Lord Sauron.
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Ward Hunt Ice Shelf on Ellsemere Island has collapsed in last few days
Obliterated may be a better description.
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Looks like a small portion, maybe 20% of what had remained of the shelf, is still hanging on.
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comparing the recent image with this one from 2008 shows the ice which is called "Ward Hunt iceshelf" by the canadian government undisintegrated.
Can you point out where you see an "obliterated ice shelf"?
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monstrous seas south of Svalbard Polarveiw (http://bslmagb.nerc-bas.ac.uk/iwsviewer/?image=DataPolarview/111_S1jpeg2000_201808/S1A_EW_GRDM_1SDH_20180826T084257_6C68_N_1.8bit.jp2)
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FBkOQD%2F920c336d4e.jpg&hash=7d0529b684f52aad7654478f72c28140)
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Ward Hunt Ice Shelf on Ellsemere Island has collapsed in last few days
Obliterated may be a better description.
These claims are just plain wrong.
You just post some recent satellite picture and then claim - without indicating any uncertainty and without presenting any evidence - that an ice shelf has collapsed "in the last few days". But nobody of you seems to care, if that claim is actually true.
Comparing that region with previous years like 2012 shows, that the ice shelf (or at least that what you believe the ice shelf is) is now not smaller than in 2012 but actually bigger. So first of all, there is no indication from your pictures that anything has "collapsed" there and the overall state of the ice in 2012 was in a much worse shape than this year. And second of all, it is nearly impossible to tell the difference between thick fast ice and the actual ice shelf on those satellite pictures to begin with.
I really don't know, why you make those claims in the first place, when you have no idea if they are true or if you don't care if they are true, but I do. The state of the Arctic is bad enough. There is really no need to fabricate stories like that and it does a disservice IMO to those people, that care about our planet and that really want to know, what is happening and where we are headed. We don't need a WUWT just in the opposite direction.
I read that forum for the last few years because I was used to get factually correct information from here. But if you have to verify for each post, if the claims or "facts" presented are actually true, than I have no reason to waste my time here distinguishing between actual facts and fake news.
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A claim deconstructed! I must admit that I never could see any "collapse" from the posted images, but then again, I had trouble seeing what those images were supposed to be showing.
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A more recent and somewhat better quality SAR visualisation of Ward Hunt from August 25th:
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Ward Hunt Ice Shelf on Ellsemere Island has collapsed in last few days
Obliterated may be a better description.
These claims are just plain wrong.
You just post some recent satellite picture and then claim - without indicating any uncertainty and without presenting any evidence - that an ice shelf has collapsed "in the last few days". But nobody of you seems to care, if that claim is actually true.
I apologize for whatever degree my comment, made too hastily, may have contributed to the error.
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..... But nobody of you seems to care, if that claim is actually true.
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I read that forum for the last few years because I was used to get factually correct information from here. But if you have to verify for each post, if the claims or "facts" presented are actually true, than I have no reason to waste my time here distinguishing between actual facts and fake news.
I remember a slogan from the early eighties in german: es gibt nichts Gutes ausser man tut es! There is no good thing unless someone does it (makes it happen)
It is a often thankless chore to bother with fact checking and contradicting false, I think mostly erroneous claims on this forum. But unless someone does it, you can't (sadly I agree) rely on correct information on this forum. The claims of disintegrating ice shelfs come up everytime sea ice breaks off the north coast of Ellesmere.
Diablobanquisa's questioning was at least a pointer to this being a dubious claim, Jim showed an image of an ice shelf which certainly was not disintegrated (without explaining what part is old ice, it is the stuff which has ridges parallel to the coast) and I did provide information which I hoped refuted the claim of "obliteration"...
I think the "peer review process" on this forum worked reasonably well.
But each of those mentioned put in an effort and spent time they could have spent on something else.
I personally feel encouraged to do this by your comment, deconstruct, because I agree that this forum should be better than other ones, but you could have worded it in a more constructive way, if i may say.
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I apologize for whatever degree my comment, made too hastily, may have contributed to the error.
No need to apologize to me! You made a mistake. We all make mistakes all of the time. This issue was blown up way beyond what it should have been.
I very much like your posts jdallen. Please don't let this cause you to stop posting. I don't know why people took things so personal. I totally understand how you made an off hand comment based upon the satellite images. I thought the exact same thing when I saw those images.
In any event, I posted this in the hope that the negative comments don't cause you to stop posting. Just blow off the assholes who feel the need to attack people for any little mistake.
There are lots of other people on this forum who appreciate your contributions. I think you have been unfairly attacked over this issue.
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There are lots of other people on this forum who appreciate your contributions. I think you have been unfairly attacked over this issue.
You can count me in this group. JD is one of the strongest contributors here.
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There are lots of other people on this forum who appreciate your contributions. I think you have been unfairly attacked over this issue.
You can count me in this group. JD is one of the strongest contributors here.
If I can get through a whole week without making a whoops on one of my posts it is a minor miracle. They usually are spotted and I fix them. The people who spot them do not see any reason to make a hoo-hah about it,and nor do I. And anyway, now I know a lot more about the Arctic ice-shelf remnants.
keep plugging away JD.
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I made the original observation, based on a very clear image, I have been observing this shelf regularly for some 10 years. No I can’t go out and walk on it to verify. But still looks to me that it is in some sort of disintegrating shape. Certainly worst I have seen, time will tell if bits float away. But never intended as fake news or anything similar. It was intended to make people aware and get discussion going, for if this is the case it’s a very significant even. It does need the observation and experience to come to a balance of judgement from an esteemed group like this.
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But still looks to me that it is in some sort of disintegrating shape.
1) That is not what you said in your post. Not even close. You said the ice shelf was "obliterated".
2) What does that even mean? Either you see some clear cracks indicating a disintegration of the ice shelf or you dont.
And to all:
I don't want anyone to stop posting. But if someone posts a claim, and also a very clear and bold one, than I would expect that that person also has substantial evidence. If I just want to post a picture, I can do so without making bold claims that I can't support. If I am unsure about what the image shows or don't shows, I can express that. But as a reader I can't look inside the head of the post's author. All I can see are the words that were written. So it matters, how you phrase things and what words you use for how that information is perceived by the reader. So I just would ask people, to be more careful when claiming things and think a minute about that claim, and if there is good reason and/or demonstrable evidence to support it.
And there is no reason, to make unsupported claims to rise awareness for the Arctic or Global Warming in general. The Arctic is already in such a bad shape, that there is already every reason to be worried. And if someone is not alarmed by the current developments in the Arctic, he will not be persuaded anyway.
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Come on, Treform2 has made 2 posts on this forum. (Treform posted not at all if you think it might be old member lost password and created new membership.) What sort of welcome to the forum is this? (Even if it is a mistake, it looks like an easy one to make.) Treform2 didn't even say it was obliterated.
Welcome to the forum Treform2. What you have received is not the normal welcome new members get.
If it hasn't collapsed then this should be pointed out, but I think there may be a different approach for a new member than the manner of the posts made here. I find the attitude shown to a new member distinctly uncomfortable.
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But still looks to me that it is in some sort of disintegrating shape.
1) That is not what you said in your post. Not even close. You said the ice shelf was "obliterated".
If you look back on previous posts, Treform did not use the term "obliterated".
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Back to the Arctic again and there was a nice image of Kotelny Island on Worldview, one of the far New Siberian Islands in between the Laptev and ESS.
Usually shrouded in cloud or ice, today was almost clear. Image shows the flat low lying Bunge Land (sandy colour) linking up the two parts of the island. Bunge is over 6,200 km2 but does not rise much above 8m height and often covered by sea surges.
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The hazards of research near the pole.
(https://polarforskningsportalen.se/imagecache/144ef23680bffe908bd5e2509cc2dcba/1100/733.jpg?source=https%3A%2F%2Fportalen.polar.se%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F08%2Farctic-ocean-2018-valross-open-lead-01-1.jpg)
(https://polarforskningsportalen.se/imagecache/5cbbdcf3ea86010141935daea6aeab8b/1200/800.jpg?source=https%3A%2F%2Fportalen.polar.se%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F08%2Farctic-ocean-2018-lars-lehnert-isbjorn-01_LL-0295-1.jpg)
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I find the attitude shown to a new member distinctly uncomfortable.
As do I.
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If you look back on previous posts, Treform did not use the term "obliterated".
You are right. He said "collapsed" and jdallen used "obliterated", I am sorry for that. Doesn't change the point I wanted to made though.
I honestly didn't see that TreForm was new to the forum. For that my reaction was probably to harsh and I apologize to TreForm for that. But on the other side, it is still not OK to make such bold but unsupported claims, because people believe what they read here. SteveMDFP for example took the whole thing for real, as did appently jdallen, and both have made several hundreds of posts here, so are certainly not new to the topic.
So, if it is so easy to persuade people, that are familiar with the topic and saw propably thousands of satellite pictures frm the Arctic before, even if you can't see any sort of collapse in the posted picture, think about how such claims work on people who are not familiar with the topic. All I want to say is: Please be careful when making claims that you cannot support with a good conscience. Truth matters, even if it doesn't seem so on so many occasions nowadays.
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Deconstruct, you sound as if you never made a mistake or an error or a false claim while posting. If so, I envy you, but recommend to remember that normal people do make mistakes.
P.s I note that claiming Treform said "obliterated" is a false claim, perhaps fake news? Or just a plain mistake.
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I find the reaction of a lot of people here bewildering.
I like to think this forum is about facts and science. If I make a statement about the xyz ice shelf I should make sure I know what the xyz iceshelf actually is. I certainly do such fact checking because I would hate to make such a mistake.
It did not take me long to find the information I posted above. Maintaining high standards on this forum is certainly worth the effort in my opinion. (of course there are people who think diferently )
JD and treform have apologized and that is ok, I hope they take more care in the future. Being incentivized to make the extra effort to reduce the risk of making mistakes is a good thing, right? That is not a personal issue, and should not be about hurt feelings.
Can you really not tell the difference between that and mistake about who said what???
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All I want to say is: Please be careful when making claims that you cannot support with a good conscience. Truth matters, even if it doesn't seem so on so many occasions nowadays.
If only this had been all you said instead of what you did say.
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Deconstruct, you sound as if you never made a mistake or an error or a false claim while posting. If so, I envy you, but recommend to remember that normal people do make mistakes.
P.s I note that claiming Treform said "obliterated" is a false claim, perhaps fake news? Or just a plain mistake.
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I did acknowledge my error without any hesitation and apologized immediately. And If I make a false claim, I am happy to be corrected, because I want to believe as many true things as possible, and as little false things as possible. And anybody who helps me with that is welcome.
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Does it make any difference for the argument, if Treform said "obliterated" instead of "collapsed"? It does not. It is synonymous and interchangeable from the meaning and that is why I mixed up who used what of the two words. It both means that the ice shelf has vanished, gone poof, broke down, dissolved, [put-in-you-favorite-synonym-here]. That was an error of mine, but it doesn't change the meaning and my argument a single iota.
Does it make any difference, if I say that an ice shelf collapsed, when it did nothing of that sort, not even close, or if I dont make such a false claim? Yes it does.
If you can't see the difference in that two things, I can't help you.
If only this had been all you said instead of what you did say.
Based on the reactions of some people here, that rather defend a wrong statement or search for excuses, I am now to the contrary more convinced, that it was necessary to talk more extensively about that topic. Even if you don't like that.
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Based on the reactions of some people here, that rather defend a wrong statement or search for excuses, I am now to the contrary more convinced, that it was necessary to talk more extensively about that topic. Even if you don't like that.
our biggest enemy is inside ourselves in the subconscious mind and it takes a lot of good will in the real meaning, a lot of experience and knowing ourselves very well and decent brain power in the meaning that the mind is ruling and not the animal inside us, to overcome that at least in parts, while probably no-one will ever succeed in full.
in other words, we can't really blame anyone, each as per his capabilities and priorities, but what we can do is what you did, name things, repeate things and always admit that we're all prone to this kind of flaw and fail permanently.
thing is that even the topic of this forum, AGW, it's roots and it's consequences is in big parts related to the above and the above is one main reason why mankind will probably not be able to
take appropriate steps very soon, at least not as long as those who share the same idea, the same goal etc. loose themselves in petty back and forth bickering and again not excluding myself, just trying to
fall less and less often into the same trap.
in short, +1
PS: reminds me of all the religious wars over thousands of years, especially those between christianity, muslims and jews who share the same god and agree on the same prophets but ultimately kill each other over the dispute which is the head-prophet and a few other politically motivated details. after all question the motives always. we all err while it's forgivable as long as our motives are just, ethically correct. as soon as its all about profiling neuroses and other ego based stuff we only can hint and ultimately opt-out (disconnect, not throwing pearls to the pigs)
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finally i thought that i have to post some nice images from the arctic to at least stay a bit on topic LOL
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Just to clarify, I am happy you deconstructed the wrong claim of a collapsed ice shelf, I am unhappy with the high and mighty tone you used.
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If only this had been all you said instead of what you did say.
Based on the reactions of some people here, that rather defend a wrong statement or search for excuses, I am now to the contrary more convinced, that it was necessary to talk more extensively about that topic. Even if you don't like that.
It was your tone and not your endless blather that I found offputting.
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It was your tone and not your endless blather that I found offputting.
to complain about the length of an article/post is another one of those "modern" trends (TLTR)
while it usually means that someone is trying to explain how something is meant, or to use examples that are easier to understand etc.
In most cases it's a testimony of not being careless and not assuming that it's all clear and easy to understand. further it's often based on the experience that whatever we say, there will be someone who fires back with lame excuses or extreme views and such and the length of explanation tries to prevent as much of it as possible. to call a genuine effort blather is exactly the kind of tone which in one direction is obviously acceptable but not into the other. this is a typical hirarchic attitude.
normal people lie and get punished, those who punish them are mostly the greates liars
generally speaking those who punish and control the public do almost in any aspect, morally, ethically as well as criminally worse than those who they punish.
as to the tone, that's a legit thing to remind each other of moderating the tones because too many of us, but certainly the majority, from time to time gets carried away or is waiting too long to respond, until the fire under the roof got to hot already to hide it, but even that is based on
not trying to first shoot and then think or bicker over every detail.
i recommend to a few oh so nice and mature users here to read and understand more often the meaning of a post and the general direction a poster is pushing and then trying to correct the
flawed part in a respectful manner.
if the tone is off which i can see that it hurts a few, then directly reply and mention that before trying to ridicule the content. this is typical system attitude. ridicule the source and you won't have to deal with the true core of the message.
there were times when people were more often exposed to torture and killings but the modern way to put question marks behind more or less direct accusations and get legally away with it but ultimately damage peoples reputation is not better, somehow even worse because the effects have to be dealt with much longer, at least before things were more final ;)
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I rather think the conversation has become about an Arctic Image of Yesterday.
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More Polar pics:
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Are those melt ponds? That haven't drained? (in OdenBalloon.jpg)
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Are those melt ponds? That haven't drained? (in OdenBalloon.jpg)
And BearFlag.jpg looks like the polar bear is claiming the arctic for all local wildlife. Good on our ursine friend.
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Northern Ellesmere. Toggling between last two clear worldview images 20th Aug and 2nd Sept.
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The frenchmen (Sebastien Roubinet et al) making their way through the ice towards Banks Island encountered a family of bears on a nearby floe today.
(https://www.sebroubinet.eu/img%20jour78.jpg)
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Close up sentinel image (yesterday) of new sea ice near the top of the Nansen Sound (Ellesmere).
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About a month ago a big chunk fell off the right hand corner of the Petermann. Roughly 1sq Km went missing. today I noticed that the rats have been gnawing at the left hand end over then last few days.
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Icesat-2 launched this morning, a video of the launch can be seen on NASA TV.
https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
(https://blogs.nasa.gov/icesat2/wp-content/uploads/sites/283/2018/09/ICESat-2_Liftoff.jpg)
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Amazing footage in this Reuters video of Helheim glacier: calving
https://widerimage.reuters.com/story/in-greenland-a-glaciers-collapse-shows-climate-impact
Wow !
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I remember to have seen this (or a comparable) Helheim calving video in the past some time ago. Is there any information whether this video is new material or from former melting seasons?
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I too recall there was one before - but this had been "recently updated" and seems to be a Reuters 20 Sept publication.. but I agree its not easy to see the date of the event.
I came across it at: https://gcaptain.com/harsh-climate-the-struggle-to-track-global-sea-level-rise/
Which describes the challenges of working (and recording) the changing Ice.
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(https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/roie-galitz_wildlife-photograbear_00001922-768x512-optimal.jpg)
From the 2018 Comedy Wildlife Photograph awards.
https://www.comedywildlifephoto.com/gallery/2018_finalists.php
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So that's a genuine photo? ;D
Not sure I would trust that bear with that gear! :P
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Not sure I would trust that bear with that gear! :P
I don't think I'd fight the bear for the camera, if it were mine.
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(https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/92000/92827/severnayazemlya_oli_2018221_lrg.jpg)
Severnaya Zemlya Archipelago
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/92827/severnaya-zemlya-archipelago
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Sentinel Colour Infrared Image of Barter Island off the north coast of Alaska on 30th September.
The NWS did mention that "sea ice will likely begin to form near freshwater river deltas and
behind barrier islands along the Beaufort Sea coast during the first week of October."
And indeed it has.
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(https://whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/roie-galitz_wildlife-photograbear_00001922-768x512-optimal.jpg)
From the 2018 Comedy Wildlife Photograph awards.
BEAR says, "I can see all the way to russia"!!!
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Image from Maersk Venta's trip this summer
https://gcaptain.com/photos-venta-maersks-passage-of-the-northern-sea-route/ (https://gcaptain.com/photos-venta-maersks-passage-of-the-northern-sea-route/)
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Glacier flour in Greenland.
(https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/92000/92891/greenland_msi_2018272.jpg)
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/92891/glacier-flour-in-greenland-skies (https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/92891/glacier-flour-in-greenland-skies)
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Eddy north east of Severnaya Zemlya, polarview, oct17.
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Late season long shadows and sunshine over Utqiagvik. In 2 weeks time the sun will have set for the last time there, until next year.
Ice free at this time.
The NWS are showing ice just around the corner from Point Barrow
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Just posting a second image (in a few days) of the Utqiagvik webcam because:
a) Some ice has spread out now and good daylight images are fast running out
b) I wonder how many more times in the future years will we be able to see daylight images of ice at this location in the autumn season ?
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Thanks for that impression from this remote location. I see the sun must be very low above the horizon. At which local time was this photograph taken?
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Thanks for that impression from this remote location. I see the sun must be very low above the horizon. At which local time was this photograph taken?
around noon +/-
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Apologies for not including the time/date stamp on last image.
Here is one from Utqiagvik on Nov 14th. 4 days before the final sunset. Ice is pretty locked in now to the coast. Conditions have changed rapidly in the past week
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As a man living in Germany it is hard to imagine to have only twilight around noon. The days here are also shorter now as in summer, but here sunset is around 5 PM.
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Extreme warmth for Iceland and Greenland this weekend, Nov 16-18th 2018 predicted:
http://www.severe-weather.eu/mcd/extreme-warmth-for-iceland-and-greenland-this-weekend-nov-16-18th/
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A rare, respectable amount of snow has fallen recently at Longyearbyen (Svalbard). The 23cm measured on the ground yesterday (29th) was the greatest depth there in the past 13 months.
Last 13 full months: Highest temperature was 15.2 °C (2. Aug. 2018) and the lowest -19.6 °C (30. Dec. 2017). Highest daily precipitation was 19.0 mm (19. Aug. 2018). Maximum snow depth was 23 cm (29. Nov. 2018).
Last 30 days: Average temperature was -3.8 °C, 6.4 °C above the normal.
But with sea ice still well away from the island of Spitzbergen, mean temperatures will remain well above normal (as it has been for many months and indeed, years).
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if i remember correctly that's not normal that there is so little ice off that coast at this date ?
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if i remember correctly that's not normal that there is so little ice off that coast at this date ?
The wind direction in recent days has been predominantly easterly and now southerly pulling ice away from the coast. The thicker ice is to the north of Point Barrow and moving east to west above Utqiagvik. There is fast ice also to the east of Point Barrow (grey shading).
But there is a section, protected by Point Barrow, which is of 1-3 tenths ice. You will see polynyas like this from time to time. If the wind veers to the northwest the ice would be jammed back to the coast.
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Am I the only one that checks in with the webcam in Utqiagvik to see if the house on the left hand side of the image has its door wide open again? It's cold up there. Why is the damn door open so often? Maybe we should call them to let them know?
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Am I the only one that checks in with the webcam in Utqiagvik to see if the house on the left hand side of the image has its door wide open again? It's cold up there. Why is the damn door open so often? Maybe we should call them to let them know?
no your not alone, perhaps that shack is used as a dog shelter or for other animals or perhaps they store something there that should not warm/melt but at the same time should stay protected from precipitation and/or winds.
even though i'm curious like yourself, i'm quite sure that they have a good reason to do things how they do them. people that far up north have learnt early not to neglect protecting their home and stuff. let's see, perhaps we get an answer one day.
;)
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Am I the only one that checks in with the webcam in Utqiagvik to see if the house on the left hand side of the image has its door wide open again? It's cold up there. Why is the damn door open so often? Maybe we should call them to let them know?
no your not alone, perhaps that shack is used as a dog shelter or for other animals or perhaps they store something there that should not warm/melt but at the same time should stay protected from precipitation and/or winds.
even though i'm curious like yourself, i'm quite sure that they have a good reason to do things how they do them. people that far up north have learnt early not to neglect protecting their home and stuff. let's see, perhaps we get an answer one day.
;)
It is an arctic entryway, it is designed to stay below freezing but out of the snow and wind. It is a good place to leave gear that will suffer if it thaws. The door will probably get closed when it get colds enough so that the inside temp stays below freezing. If it has a door...
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(https://epod.usra.edu/.a/6a0105371bb32c970b017d42e83176970c-pi)
Godwin Glacier in Chugach National Forest, Alaska.
https://epod.usra.edu/blog/2018/12/encore-deep-blue-abyss-on-godwins-glacier.html
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Am I the only one that checks in with the webcam in Utqiagvik to see if the house on the left hand side of the image has its door wide open again? It's cold up there. Why is the damn door open so often? Maybe we should call them to let them know?
It's a normal cold porch, a place to remove the outermost layer of clothes, that may have a whole lot of snow/ice on them. Snow is shaken out of the doorway, the floor occasionally brushed clear. Door might be permanently open or closed only during snowstorms. Might not even have a lock on it to prevent freezing shut. You see these sometimes even in southern Finland. People might use these as freezers for food stuffs.
Checking words... Yep, entryway, comparable to mudroom in warmer places. The lock of the house would be in the door protected from wind and ice buildup, handling keys @-25C is much nicer to do over a floor rather than on snowbank or ice in a blastchiller wind. Might add that it's an excellent way to get your home's lock frozen shut if you open it once with a snowy key. Normally you do it at most, once in your life. The same applies of course to your car door, if you're a winter outdoors person you quite quickly learn to put out or take with you some antifreezing oil when parking over in nature.
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Looking south over the recently frozen Norton Sound in the Bering Sea, one hour after sunrise at Nome, Alaska. Sunrise was at 12 local time and will set just before 4pm. Temp is circa -24 C (-11 F).
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Meanwhile, at the other end of the globe, the BAS has put this picture up from Halley (Brunt ice shelf):-
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Massive spinning ice disk:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46891412
(Maine is not quite Arctic, sorry)
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NOAA 19 AVHRR IR, January 18 2019 1235 UTC image. Note the melting ice front above Svalbard, ice fracturing in the Lincoln Sea and the breaking up of the ice pack in the Beaufort Sea.
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The sun is back at Utqiagvik ! Just about. Long shadows stretch out over the fast ice over the Chukchi Sea today.
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It's gotten a lot milder now over in Nome. But with the milder air has come the snow.
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Getting ready for tripod weekend on the Tanana river, Nenana Alaska.
Last measurement on Feb 26, the ice thickness was still very low at only 23.5 inches. This year still in last place.
https://www.nenanaakiceclassic.com/ice.htm
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Was checking the Antarctic via Sentinel and saw this.
Is my new wallpaper now. :)
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Ice shattering on shore of Lake Superior
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Found on Reddit in r/natureisfuckinglit
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Am I the only one that checks in with the webcam in Utqiagvik to see if the house on the left hand side of the image has its door wide open again? It's cold up there. Why is the damn door open so often? Maybe we should call them to let them know?
This one?
https://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam/
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This one?
https://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam/
Yes.
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Iconic image from this year's Iditarod. Photo posted by Rick Thoman on Twitter.
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So I understand correctly that on March 13 no sea water should be visible from Nome, Alaska. Has this happened before 2017 already?
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Judging by its location at the north end of the Bering Sea, not far from the Strait, I would guess that open sea near Nome on that date is a serious rarity, though I haven't gone over the satellite record to verify.
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not quite as wet but zoom in and you'll see a lot of wet ice and temps are high in barrow AK
http://feeder.gina.alaska.edu/webcam-uaf-barrow-seaice-images/current/image
looks a bit strange the current weather values but warm either way ;)
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Iconic image from this year's Iditarod.
The current Nome image (http://greatwhitecon.info/resources/arctic-webcams/#Nome) from the GWC webcam page, looking across Front Street:
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I'm not sure what you are getting at Jim. That web cam is pointing down a road in town. That is completely different from what Rick Thoman posted. If he says his "heart aches for what we've lost," it is silly not to take him seriously. No one knows Alaska sea ice better than he does.
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This is central Alaska, but it demonstrates the warmth that they are dealing with this year.
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I'm not sure what you are getting at Jim.
I'm not suggesting that Rick should not be taken seriously. I'm merely posting a roughly contemporaneous image from an automated webcam that would otherwise be lost to posterity.
For comparison purposes during this and future melting seasons.
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A pod of narwhal in the Arctic
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A pod of narwhal in the Arctic
Image of the month?
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Since it has no practical use for any of us but has beautiful images, i decided to post this here.
How the Navy Punches a Nuclear Sub Through Arctic Ice
Link >> https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a19681544/how-a-submarine-surfaces-through-ice/
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Polar bears sparring while a wolf walks by
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The snow has melted off of the southwestern side of Lake Baikal and perhaps some melt ponds have formed. Because it is fresh water it won't melt out exactly like sea ice. The area where melting has started is clearly identified by the clear dark blue color.
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Wildlife photographer has their boot inspected by a curious arctic fox
Link >> https://gfycat.com/acidicpassionateharpseal
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This one?
https://seaice.alaska.edu/gi/observatories/barrow_webcam/
Yes.
And now we see who leaves the door open all the time ;)
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LOL
;)
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South west tip of Greenland today https://go.nasa.gov/2Jlwh2Q
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Very nice. Melting sea ice?
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Very nice. Melting sea ice?
It could be tens of thousands of dead polar bears, whose corpses have congealed to give the appearance of melting sea ice. Hard to tell, definitely a great question to ask! :)
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nice one bbr ;) and there I was trying to be artistic for once. Focusing on the little things....
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Huge
iceberg floe bumping into Hans Island in Nares Strait beautifully captured by Sentinel.
Edit: Thanks Uniquorn for the correction.
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Should have looked where it was going :)
I think it's a floe though.
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Should have looked where it was going :)
I think it's a floe though.
Right! Both statements are. :)
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Says the floe: I liked being called an iceberg: made me feel big and strong! And what are those 'see-thingies' that are used to look where one is going? I thought life was like a waterpark at night.
Says Tor: wonderful image, B_!
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Beautiful image.
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(https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1905/volcano_stefnisson_960.jpg)
Ash and Lightning above an Icelandic volcano.
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
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two things of significance are going on up there:
a) thawing weather
b) the door is closed LOL ;D
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What is that grey oval above-level structure behind the tower, parts of it with a pipeline (?) on it?
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Think you're looking at a closeup of the roof, that's not a tower but an air vent or chimney pipe or something.
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What is that grey oval above-level structure behind the tower, parts of it with a pipeline (?) on it?
one of us needs new glasses, perhaps you could upload the image with arrows and circles pointing at or showing what you mean.
no tower and no pipeline could be found with my aging eyes, please elaborate
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What is that grey oval above-level structure behind the tower, parts of it with a pipeline (?) on it?
Agree with pleun. That 'structure' is flashing at the edge of a roof. The 'tower' is a chimney. The 'pipeline' looks to be an electrical cable, perhaps for a satellite dish on the roof.
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Think the cable is a thick copper grounding cable.
Funny how you're brain can play tricks on you...
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reddit.com/r/confusing_perspective/
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What is that grey oval above-level structure behind the tower, parts of it with a pipeline (?) on it?
one of us needs new glasses, perhaps you could upload the image with arrows and circles pointing at or showing what you mean.
no tower and no pipeline could be found with my aging eyes, please elaborate
I circled the structure in red
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Think you're looking at a closeup of the roof, that's not a tower but an air vent or chimney pipe or something.
Stephan, this is the correct answer. Once seen, never unseen.
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Yes. This is the right answer. Thank you for having the right look at it!
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optricks .. :)
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Hey, the perennially open door is closed!
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Hey, the perennially open door is closed!
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,416.msg199146.html#msg199146
as mentioned in kidding form under "B" ;)
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I'm so sorry! I forgot your post (which I did read, honest!) amid the questions about the 'silo' and 'UFO' [my thoughts] sitting atop it. (In my cropped version, the conduit looks like the white line on a paved road!) Now all I see is a field of bitumen wasteland in the foreground, on this side of a raised roadway.
So (belatedly): good catch, Magnamentis!
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I'm so sorry! I forgot your post (which I did read, honest!) amid the questions about the 'silo' and 'UFO' [my thoughts] sitting atop it. (In my cropped version, the conduit looks like the white line on a paved road!) Now all I see is a field of bitumen wasteland in the foreground, on this side of a raised roadway.
So (belatedly): good catch, Magnamentis!
Sewn twice holds better haha....
the bitumen is typical flat-roof sealing against water wich in our hemisphere is mostly covered with gravel, so that i don't see when the drainage is blocked with sahara sand and regularly end up with upto 30cm of water above my frightened head) once every 3-4 years LOL ;) ;) ;)
yeah, i know, shouldn't be lazy and clean once a year but then ..... :D :D :D
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Nice view of the ice off Newfoundland.
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Hey, the perennially open door is closed!
It's become too hot to keep the door open ;D 8) :D ;)
*"Hey Malaalik, is there any of the frozen walrus left? It's so delicious fried?"
*"No, somebody left the door open from our fridge, and it spoiled!"
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Such an incredible process of earthly exchange :D
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That's really a beauty Kate!
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Trebuchet: It Looks like it is time to be caught by "The Lore of the Labrador Wild" and begin "The Long Labrador Trail" as Mina Hubbard finds "A Woman's Way Through Unknown Labrador"
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If I remember correctly, Kate has a soft spot for melting river deltas. 8)
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Wasn't sure where to post this - For those looking for live images, Nav Canada has a site with Live weather cameras at a lot of Canadian airports. Many of the cameras at northern Airports have a bit of the sea in the background.
http://www.metcam.navcanada.ca/hb/index.jsp?lang=e
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What a sick world!???
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Overpopulation, even at the top of the Everest.
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Overpopulation, even at the top of the Everest.
both a simulacra and apt metaphor for so many things right now.
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@NOAASatellites just tweeted this video of the sun glinting off the Arctic Ocean north of Alaska. I see some ice floes too.
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What a sick world!???
There are so many thoughts that come to mind--none of them pleasant. What if . . . ? What if there was a guy, only one guy, all by himself in the lower left of the image, climbing up that rock face. What would that call to mind?
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What a sick world!???
empty shells filling the void with valuable assets that in the process loose much of their value for some time until the empty shells have left the face of the earth for good.
+1 my thoughts since days and all this bullshit for bragging rights and a few selfies. :-\ :-\ :-\
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Beautiful sentinel image (dated 030619) of the blue ice at the head of Tanquary Fiord, north central Ellesmere Island.
Reminds me of a leopard's head.
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I x-posted that one Niall:
Well spotted by Niall Dollard here:
Beautiful sentinel image (dated 030619) of the blue ice at the head of Tanquary Fiord, north central Ellesmere Island.
Reminds me of a leopard's head.
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empty shells filling the void with valuable assets
+1 my thoughts since days and all this bullshit for bragging rights and a few selfies. :-\ :-\ :-\
I refrained from commenting until now, but our national broadcaster presented (for far too long) the story of one person that complaining that he nearly lost his life due to the line ups. It was prompted by the fact that "so many"people had been dying on Everest lately. Where the helll are our priorities, have we lost our collective minds?
He never realized that he *was* the line-up, but somehow thought he was "special". He was portrayed as heroic, rather than what he really was, entitled and self-indulgent.
I have decided that the "mountain climbing adventurer" epitomizes why we are so royally screwed. Selfish, narcissistic individuals, caring only for themselves, are engaging in a pointless exercise and in the process, leaving their shit behind, both literally and figuratively.
I take faint comfort in that the majority of the commenters about the above article were having none of it, many in harsh but valid terms.
Cue Pogo quote here.
</rant>
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empty shells filling the void with valuable assets
+1 my thoughts since days and all this bullshit for bragging rights and a few selfies. :-\ :-\ :-\
I refrained from commenting until now, but our national broadcaster presented (for far too long) the story of one person that complaining that he nearly lost his life due to the line ups. It was prompted by the fact that "so many"people had been dying on Everest lately. Where the helll are our priorities, have we lost our collective minds?
He never realized that he *was* the line-up, but somehow thought he was "special". He was portrayed as heroic, rather than what he really was, entitled and self-indulgent.
I have decided that the "mountain climbing adventurer" epitomizes why we are so royally screwed. Selfish, narcissistic individuals, caring only for themselves, are engaging in a pointless exercise and in the process, leaving their shit behind, both literally and figuratively.
I take faint comfort in that the majority of the commenters about the above article were having none of it, many in harsh but valid terms.
Cue Pogo quote here.
</rant>
Is climbing a mountain evidence that one can conquer nature? (Is that still a thing?, in popular parlance.) Might such energy be better spent encouraging nature not to conquer us?
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Puffy clouds over Nares Strait. <3
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Nice clear image. Thanks for sharing.
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You are welcome, Rich. :)
A picture with Hans is always a good picture. ;)
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Interesting article in the Guardian regarding the Carbon Pump caused by zooplankton...
See https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jun/07/oceans-demise-the-end-of-the-arctic-as-we-know-it
From The Guardian link, great video to watch the vulnerability of the ASI (with waves, small floes and people above):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GieAsmcNWo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GieAsmcNWo)
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From r/NatureIsFuckingLit
🔥 Morning traffic on the road in Svalbard 🔥
Link >> https://www.reddit.com/r/NatureIsFuckingLit/comments/by6ka4/morning_traffic_on_the_road_in_svalbard/
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04.06. vs 08.06. (in the west of Lena)
(Click to play)
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Again Lena Delta.
As surreal as beautiful.
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This is what an overturned iceberg looks like
(https://giant.gfycat.com/ChillyInexperiencedBuffalo.mp4)
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This is what an overturned iceberg looks like
(https://giant.gfycat.com/ChillyInexperiencedBuffalo.mp4)
not showing ;)
however i took the link that shows on reply and yes, a great picture like an organ from some alien world or the remainder of superman's arctic how LOL
at least, for now, everyone understands what bottom melt means and how it can look like ;) :D :D
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That's strange. Works for me.
Direct link >> https://giant.gfycat.com/ChillyInexperiencedBuffalo.mp4
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This is what an overturned iceberg looks like
(https://giant.gfycat.com/ChillyInexperiencedBuffalo.mp4)
not showing ;)
however i took the link that shows on reply and yes, a great picture like an organ from some alien world or the remainder of superman's arctic how LOL
at least, for now, everyone understands what bottom melt means and how it can look like ;) :D :D
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That's strange. Works for me.
Direct link >> https://giant.gfycat.com/ChillyInexperiencedBuffalo.mp4
It shows a broken image icon in the first instance and works fine in the quoted instance.
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It's a rather large file. Perhaps your download just took some time to load.
Patience people... ;)
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I sometimes see attachments and sometimes don't. Sometimes it is because my work environment blocks things (like twitter); other times, who knows? I sometimes go to "Properties" and copy the URL (if not twitter, etc.) and paste into a new tab, like I did with the down-side up ice. [Who knows were the top side went - I sure cannot see it! ;D ]
Example attached.
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5 days of bottom melt in Baffin bay of the coast of western Greenland.
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Well the Icebergs I saw in 2003 in the Ilulisat Ice Fjord look more that way, one picture is overturned, the other one not.
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Those are freshly calved ones, right Etienne?
I suspect the one i posted above to have drifted around for some time.
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Not so fresh because the pictures were taken between Aasiaat and Ilulissat, it means that they had to go out of the Icefjord.
I have another picture with some small boats, just to give you an idea of the size of these things.
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If I remember well, there is not much overturn in the Icefjord, but depending of the way the calving happens, they are up side down or not.
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One picture of Ilimanaq at the end of the Icefjord, always taken in 2003. It was my only trip north of the polar circle.
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And a last one, a boat going out of the Ilulissat harbour
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That must have been awesome to see with your own eyes, Etienne. I envy you.
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It was really beautiful., but I wonder how much it has changed. We took the ship from Narsarsuak to Ilulissat, and that was also an experience, with storms and all what you can dream of, we were all sick, even the guide.
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Conditions were quite difficult, I hope they still are and that it makes industrial tourism impossible.
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I sometimes see attachments and sometimes don't. Sometimes it is because my work environment blocks things (like twitter); other times, who knows? I sometimes go to "Properties" and copy the URL (if not twitter, etc.) and paste into a new tab, like I did with the down-side up ice. [Who knows were the top side went - I sure cannot see it! ;D ]
Example attached.
thanks and sure that's how it is, i thought he might be interested that it works for everyone and be informed.
apparently it's now available because in the quoted post by @pragme it was showing for me too.
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thought he might be interested that it works for everyone
He is Mag. :)
Thanks for telling me. I made an own GIF of it so i could upload it to the forum myself, but it was just way too big even with compression.
Thought linking it might be the smarter choice.
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That's strange. Works for me.
The first post contained the mp4 as an image, therefore it didn't show.
The second post contained it as a direct link, which enabled the forum software to recognize it as an mp4.
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That makes sense, on the one hand, Oren. On the other, it doesn't explain why it works for me. ;)
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What a glorious day at Summit
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Another flipped iceberg.
(https://i.redd.it/vbqtitsny3431.jpg)
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Mordor?
No, Petermann glacier.
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A frantic baby elephant makes a dash for the Bering Strait.
Climate Change is scary, and no white elephant.
Okay, I will stop now...
Worldview June 12, 2019.
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noctilucent cloud
(https://spaceweatherarchive.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/nlc_anim_strip.gif)
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re 1400: that is one gorgeous looking iceberg, thx!
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Welcome, Kassy! :)
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This is the largest "melt pond" I have ever seen on the internet. This photo was taken on the NW coast of Greenland. Stunning.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9BUHFyXkAASrQ1.jpg)
https://twitter.com/RasmusTonboe
@SteffenMalskaer got the difficult task of retrieving our oceanographic moorings and weather station on sea ice in North West Greenland this year. Rapid melt and sea ice with low permeability and few cracks leaves the melt water on top.
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And how can any sensor way up there deal with a melt lake like that down here?
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Amazing image. Got to ask... when we see deep blue on the fast ice on Worldview... is this sometimes what we are looking at???
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Any suggestions for naming shallow melt water on top of ice? I got nothing.
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Amazing image. Got to ask... when we see deep blue on the fast ice on Worldview... is this sometimes what we are looking at???
Yes.
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... when we see deep blue on the fast ice on Worldview... is this sometimes what we are looking at???
On worldview, it looks like pic 1
On Sentinel, it looks like this pic 2 (this picture is taken 2 days before, i selected it because of the cloudiness, on 13th it's all blue.)
On RAMMB Slider, in Natural Colour, it looks like pic 3
On RAMMB Slider, in Geo Colour, it looks like pic 4
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The sea ice at Utqiagvik is breaking up. There was a group standing on shore watching earlier.
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Any suggestions for naming shallow melt water on top of ice? I got nothing.
Up here in Canuckistan we call that Zamboni Tailings.
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From a newspaper that changed its mind about AGW not very long ago (but is still pretty vile) a stunning set of photos and drone footage.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7099091/Rodger-Price-films-stunning-blue-Iceberg-melt-pond-coast-Bacon-Cove-Newfoundland.html
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Woah! 😍
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Do I see an iceberg in an iceberg?
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A frantic baby elephant makes a dash for the Bering Strait.
It's a duck now. :)
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That makes sense, on the one hand, Oren. On the other, it doesn't explain why it works for me. ;)
As revealed previously, one should not use img to embed mp4s within a post. Use url (hyperlink) instead. From my testing, img embedding only worked on Safari mac.
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That's good to know. Thank you Ice Shieldz.
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Any suggestions for naming shallow melt water on top of ice? I got nothing.
In Swedish it's called flödvatten (flowwater).
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This is what an overturned iceberg looks like
(https://giant.gfycat.com/ChillyInexperiencedBuffalo.mp4)
That's astonishing. It has bits of sharp rock (igneous?) embedded in it. There's got to be some serious history there.
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Any suggestions for naming shallow melt water on top of ice? I got nothing.
In Swedish it's called flödvatten (flowwater).
We call it overflow. It is also a regular occurrence here in winter, it happens when a stream or lake freezes to the bottom and ground water is forced to the surface. It can be quite deep, and, as one can imagine, very unpleasant in winter.
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Interstitial, Midnightsun & Sebastian,
I believe that what you are referring to is called sheet flow. It happens from time to time on frozen soils, frozen rivers and even large deltas, as we have seen earlier this year.
In this particular case, I am convinced that the melting of snow happened in situ, hence we should not use the "flow" term.
Instead, I would suggest a new term: "Sheet melt". The first reference I could find alluded to the near complete melt taking place over the Greenland ice sheet in 2012. Other allusions could be found related to the melt water incidents preceding the collapse of some of the Antarctic ice shelves.
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Interstitial, Midnightsun & Sebastian,
I believe that what you are referring to is called sheet flow. It happens from time to time on frozen soils, frozen rivers and even large deltas, as we have seen earlier this year.
In this particular case, I am convinced that the melting of snow happened in situ, hence we should not use the "flow" term.
Instead, I would suggest a new term: "Sheet melt". The first reference I could find alluded to the near complete melt taking place over the Greenland ice sheet in 2012. Other allusions could be found related to the melt water incidents preceding the collapse of some of the Antarctic ice shelves.
while your point may make sense, i don't think that it makes much sense to discuss terms for things that happend for centuries or more and have been given their proper names in various regions. at least this is what i understood, those terms are established terms.
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Magnamentis,
I am not questioning the meaning of well-estalished local terms. I am suggesting a new generic term for a new phenomenon.
Cheers P
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Magnamentis,
I am not questioning the meaning of well-estalished local terms. I am suggesting a new generic term for a new phenomenon.
Cheers P
but it's not new, why do you think there is anything new except the number of events at the same time while the kind of event has probably existed at all times ?
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The beaches are open in Utqiagvik! They actually opened last night under what appeared to be a light rain or mist.
I hope I am not be redundant if someone else has already posted this. I checked the normal threads and did not see anything.
I know lots of people enjoy watching the Utqiavik (formerly Barrow) sea ice cam. This shot is interesting because you can see a boat where just a few hours ago fast I’ve still covered the area.
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Interesting to note the new(ish) berm that's been built by the beach to protect the houses behind it from intrusions of sea water driven by waves.
That by itself is an acknowledgement of just how much things have changed.
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They built that last summer. I watched with interest because the bank in front of that house on the left is actually quite steep.
They piled up the heavy stuff on top, but from what I could see the base is still unprotected. Sea walls in Alaska are a big deal because of the melting permafrost.
I’m afraid this one is not going to last very long.
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Ha, I was just going to make that exact post!! It's crazy how all of the sea ice in Barrow more or less disappeared overnight. All of the images have been incredible on this page - I thank all of you for posting/sharing. Ugg, quite bittersweet tho, I don't know why but I just have a bad feeling about how this season will end.
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I have no doubt melt ponds and such have happened long before humans first walked on this planet. Unfortunately I don't speak Swedish, Russian, Inuit, or any other language at this time. I am not sure it would even catch on let alone replace any existing term in another language. It was interesting to learn the translation of the Swedish term though. Calling it a melt pond while it will do in a pinch seems in adequate when it is the size of a lake. Melt lake doesn't seem quite right to me either. Calling it flow water when it doesn't flow seems a little off to me personally. Zamboni tailings would seem to be talking more about melt ponds imo besides its informal at best. We don't have to come up with a new term I just thought it would be fun.
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Found on Reddit, not sure if the Arctic. Edit: of course not Arctic, there are trees!
But it's freaking awesome...
(https://i.redd.it/qqcgbjzab3531.jpg)
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Interstitial, Midnightsun & Sebastian,
I believe that what you are referring to is called sheet flow. It happens from time to time on frozen soils, frozen rivers and even large deltas, as we have seen earlier this year.
In this particular case, I am convinced that the melting of snow happened in situ, hence we should not use the "flow" term.
Instead, I would suggest a new term: "Sheet melt". The first reference I could find alluded to the near complete melt taking place over the Greenland ice sheet in 2012. Other allusions could be found related to the melt water incidents preceding the collapse of some of the Antarctic ice shelves.
No, flödvatten is what happens in springwinter (the 5th season up here) when the air is above freezing, the sun has reappeared and the snow melts on top of solid ice, and there can also be water pressing up from underneath later in the season. It's what's called melt ponding here on ASIF but I think the use of the word pond is a bit strange, since it can be anything from a puddle to a lake size.
Maybe "over-ice melt water" is more correct? Bit of a bother. OIMW ;D?
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Interesting to note the new(ish) berm that's been built by the beach to protect the houses behind it from intrusions of sea water driven by waves.
That by itself is an acknowledgement of just how much things have changed.
finally we know why that door is always open, it serves as a fast escape route in case of flooding by storm surges. ;) ;) ;)
i wanted to post that last night but was lazy and sure someone would do that, thanks.
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< This shot is interesting because you can see a boat>
I wonder whose boat it is....
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Hahahaha :D
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Found on Reddit, not sure if the Arctic. Edit: of course not Arctic, there are trees!
But it's freaking awesome...
It might be Lake Baikal. Similar amazing photos here (https://science.nasa.gov/methane-bubbles-frozen-lake-baikal), here (https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/9177376/lake-baikal-deepest-freshwater-lake-photos/), and here (https://mymodernmet.com/lake-baikal-winter/).
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This is the largest "melt pond" I have ever seen on the internet. This photo was taken on the NW coast of Greenland. Stunning.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9BUHFyXkAASrQ1.jpg)
https://twitter.com/RasmusTonboe
@SteffenMalskaer got the difficult task of retrieving our oceanographic moorings and weather station on sea ice in North West Greenland this year. Rapid melt and sea ice with low permeability and few cracks leaves the melt water on top.
Very deserving so this image has gone global via the BBC, no wonder this image is no longer available here. It can be seen in it's jaw dropping'ness (?) here
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48674797
top quotes from this report
"Steffen Olsen, a climate scientist at the Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI), took the photo on 13 June as these warming conditions reached their peak
If only
"On that day, Greenland is estimated to have lost the equivalent of 2bn tonnes of ice. Temperatures, according to the European Centre for Medium-range Weather Forecasting, were around 22C above normal the day before. In the village of Qaanaaq, a high of 17.3C was recorded. "
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If only
"On that day, Greenland is estimated to have lost the equivalent of 2bn tonnes of ice. Temperatures, according to the European Centre for Medium-range Weather Forecasting, were around 22C above normal the day before. In the village of Qaanaaq, a high of 17.3C was recorded. "
the clouds indicate "foehn" winds which may play a role in the high temps as well. "foehn" winds in the alps can cause temps around 20C in january, 15-20C above normal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind
https://www.google.com/search?q=foehn+clouds&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=NwQSWEAWX1s7EM%252CmNfKLxklGlVQiM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kS5X9eB35-RHPCX6Bwr2-17VEQ0Ug&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtrIL9kfTiAhWqAmMBHT5vCvgQ_h0wdHoECGAQBA&biw=1866&bih=1016#imgrc=NwQSWEAWX1s7EM:&vet=1
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=anabatic+winds&chips=q:anabatic+wind,g_1:katabatic,online_chips:katabatic+flow&usg=AI4_-kQtuHWJmM9ov2mRX1F2H2Q1vqAWbw&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj19-7DkvTiAhUHFRQKHY_3D5oQ4lYILigC&biw=1866&bih=1016&dpr=0.9
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If only
"On that day, Greenland is estimated to have lost the equivalent of 2bn tonnes of ice. Temperatures, according to the European Centre for Medium-range Weather Forecasting, were around 22C above normal the day before. In the village of Qaanaaq, a high of 17.3C was recorded. "
the clouds indicate "foehn" winds which may play a role in the high temps as well. "foehn" winds in the alps can cause temps around 20C in january, 15-20C above normal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind
https://www.google.com/search?q=foehn+clouds&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=NwQSWEAWX1s7EM%252CmNfKLxklGlVQiM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kS5X9eB35-RHPCX6Bwr2-17VEQ0Ug&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtrIL9kfTiAhWqAmMBHT5vCvgQ_h0wdHoECGAQBA&biw=1866&bih=1016#imgrc=NwQSWEAWX1s7EM:&vet=1
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=anabatic+winds&chips=q:anabatic+wind,g_1:katabatic,online_chips:katabatic+flow&usg=AI4_-kQtuHWJmM9ov2mRX1F2H2Q1vqAWbw&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj19-7DkvTiAhUHFRQKHY_3D5oQ4lYILigC&biw=1866&bih=1016&dpr=0.9
I Totally agree with that.
It's just that it's happened pretty much every day since the start of May. 2019 is still about 3 weeks in front of 2012 the worst in 20 years (satellite history). Unprecedented is a word used too often and stinks of hyperbole but it fits this years melt in Greenland perfectly.
https://nsidc.org/greenland-today/
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I Totally agree with that.
It's just that it's happened pretty much every day since the start of May. 2019 is still about 3 weeks in front of 2012 the worst in 20 years (satellite history). Unprecedented is a word used too often and stinks of hyperbole but it fits this years melt in Greenland perfectly.
https://nsidc.org/greenland-today/
oh.. that was just an addition without any corrective or second meaning. i was referring to the peak while of course it's kind of permanent right now, absolutely ;)
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might be Lake Baikal. Similar amazing photos here (https://science.nasa.gov/methane-bubbles-frozen-lake-baikal), here (https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/9177376/lake-baikal-deepest-freshwater-lake-photos/), and here (https://mymodernmet.com/lake-baikal-winter/).
Thanks so much for the links, Slow Wing. Very interesting!
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The Freya glacier (Greenland) webcam is online again. Snow cover looks very bad compared to previous years.
https://www.foto-webcam.eu/webcam/freya1/
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Barentz near Franz Josef strait.
A visual testimony to what's happening to the CAB ice as it gets shoved out past FJL and Svalbard.
Continuously thinned until at the southern edges it wisps out to nothing.
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The Freya glacier (Greenland) webcam is online again. Snow cover looks very bad compared to previous years.
https://www.foto-webcam.eu/webcam/freya1/ (https://www.foto-webcam.eu/webcam/freya1/)
Really nice webcam images - I like the temp info as well - hits 11.9C on the 16th. Noticeable that there are lots of blue-sky days as well.
Made an animated gif for the last 30 days:
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffreua1-190521-190621.gif&hash=63862e9f847d36b206c781ce26e6ed9f)
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Thank you Tom, great gif.
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I wonder whose boat it is....
I am transcribing old whaling records for sea ice research https://www.oldweather.org/shipping_office.html
(https://i.imgur.com/Y1LVG04.png)
This record is from the Lucretia of New Bedford for August 6th 1883, she is stuck at Point (or Cape) Barrow
watching the ice clostley as yet sea no sines of it breaking up close packed around the Point
https://archive.org/details/lucretiasteambar00lucr/page/142
Its interesting to see how the melting has changed since then
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Not exactly in Arctic, but south of Laptev sea, the forest fires wich are sending smoke and ice on the Arctic are inducing pyrocumulus (pyrocumuluses ?, sorry, english is not my first language).
On the picture below, you can observe 2 beautiful ones.
You can see there is some instability over the area, but above the forest fires, clouds are much more powerful, and smoke is escaping from them. I don't know if the cumulus are powerful enough to trigger rain (probable), and rain intense enough to estinguish the fires beneath.
(https://1000ideespourlacorse.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/pyrocumulus-in-siberia-22-june-2019.png)
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An uncanny cloud face appears in the South Kara Sea in this still from a Colorado State University animation.
Facing to our left, three quarter view. It was almost shocking to see it pop up. May be embracing a lesser deity.
BTW, this program produces terrific animations of current weather patterns, I was alerted to it by JayW on the melting thread.
http://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu/?sat=jpss&z=1&im=24&ts=1&st=0&et=0&speed=130&motion=loop&map=1&lat=0&opacity%5B0%5D=1&hidden%5B0%5D=0&pause=0&slider=-1&hide_controls=1&mouse_draw=0&follow_feature=0&follow_hide=0&s=rammb-slider&sec=northern_hemisphere&p%5B0%5D=band_m08&x=13964.5&y=16288
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Melting snowman agrees! Uncanny...
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someone mentioned the eventual need for a lawn mower at barrows, i'd say this could happen even before a BOE ;) ;) ;) :D
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The last scream of the ice:
(https://i.postimg.cc/0QwGF93g/ice2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Melting snowman agrees! Uncanny...
Excellent! And I will try to raise you with...
"Alpine peaks and a glacier on a snowy evening"
by Worldview C.A.A. July 27, 2019.
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Remember that one?
This is the largest "melt pond" I have ever seen on the internet. This photo was taken on the NW coast of Greenland. Stunning.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9BUHFyXkAASrQ1.jpg)
Sure you do. :)
The half of the fjord lost its ice by now and all the water on the surface has drained, which likely means there is bottom melt going on. That dude can be happy he didn't fall through the ice...
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The half of the fjord lost its ice by now
Yesterday it degraded even more. Holy moly.
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The ice is very blue!
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someone mentioned the eventual need for a lawn mower at barrows, i'd say this could happen even before a BOE ;) ;) ;) :D
yes, my thoughts exactly ;D
And I wish our guy with the open door would bring in his parcels! They've been outside for weeks and they're a tripping hazard
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The ice is very blue!
Great shot Kate! I had the same thought when people started discussing Kane Basin.
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It was well above 5˚C there yesterday. It's still warm and will be for some time.
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The ice is very blue!
Indeed! Looks like muscle fibre and synapses. :o
(Via Sentinel)
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Beautiful clear day for observing.
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The ice is very blue!
DMI confirms strong surface mass balance here.
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2543.msg209791.html#msg209791
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Surf's up! Big waves today.
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:o :o :o
That is very much not good.
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Surf's up! Big waves today.
wave hight @ barrow is around 0.5m-0.75m max
may i guess that you don't live ocean-side ?
this is more or less in the range of the minimum wave hight except the few hours with glassy waters. the reason why barrow does often see glassy waters is because it's behind a cape that protects quite a few angles and so does to a lesser extent the typ north east of wainwright to the south west
this is not high waves you can verify here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwleOote5M0
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Surf's up! Big waves today.
wave hight @ barrow is around 0.5m-0.75m max
I meant relatively of course. I'm so used to seeing basically nothing that this seems like real surf. They seem to be even higher now, with breaking waves actually washing up onto the beach.
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I meant relatively of course. I'm so used to seeing basically nothing that this seems like real surf. They seem to be even higher now, with breaking waves actually washing up onto the beach.
Ah never mind that last part. They seem lower if anything.
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Now the ice has receded to the border of the 1890 map. It is terrible to imagine what will happen in 2 months.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/North-Pole-Arctic-Region-Discoveries-tracks-detailed-routes-1890-Stieler-old-map-/122672999971
This link to an old map that was posted over on melting season thread reminded me of some very interesting old maps from DMI. They seem to have made an annual report showing the ice edge in the months leading up to the minimum (i.e. April to August), but not all the old reports are available online.
This one from 1947 (https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/rediscover/datalist/phpFileTree/dmi_sea_ice_maps/1947/1947.pdf) is quite good though, example shown below.
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This link to an old map that was posted over on melting season thread reminded me of some very interesting old maps from DMI. They seem to have made an annual report showing the ice edge in the months leading up to the minimum (i.e. April to August), but not all the old reports are available online.
Interestingly, these maps very rarely show a polynya in the Laptev Sea.
It is also curious that until the 21st century, no one could pass the northeast passage without an icebreaker in one summer.
At best, such attempts ended in wintering in the East Siberian Sea, where the ice has always melted the longest.
For example, the expedition of 1878:
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7MpvRnNJ9a8/WFwr2IpAReI/AAAAAAAAFRg/GcpAoTnNaz8FBcZk41hhJ03Y8j764_gVACLcB/s1600/Vega%2BVoyage%2BFinal.jpg)
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The lack of polynya in the Laptev may simply be because of lack of information, not many people around to see it!
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In iceberg seen some 80 km off the north-western coast of Iceland. Estimated to be 50 to 70 meters high, and some 500 m wide, probably reaching a depth of 500 meters as well.
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WOW!
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Holy crap, what a pic. Kinda gives me the heebie-jeebies due to my submechanophobia.
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Where might it have come from?
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Where might it have come from?
Well it's definitely from a Greenland gletcher, somewhere along the eastern or northern side of Greenland.
These huge icebergs are becomming a common sight in Iceland in summer, presumably because of more calving gletchers, and/or more mobile icepack, releasing these "calves" into the open ocean pastures.
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Definitely Greenland? Why is that Binntho?
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The lack of polynya in the Laptev may simply be because of lack of information, not many people around to see it!
Great Siberian Polynya was described by Lomonosov in 1736.
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Surf's up! Big waves today.
wave hight @ barrow is around 0.5m-0.75m max
I meant relatively of course. I'm so used to seeing basically nothing that this seems like real surf. They seem to be even higher now, with breaking waves actually washing up onto the beach.
There’s been actual flooding due to waves in Barrow. Image kept by Jim Hunt, this is August 2015
http://greatwhitecon.info/2015/08/barrow-battered-by-big-waves/
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Definitely Greenland? Why is that Binntho?
Simply because this has to have calved from a huge gletcher that calves into a fjord and such gletchers are only found in Greenland and Antartica. And I somehow doubt that it is from down south ...
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The lack of polynya in the Laptev may simply be because of lack of information, not many people around to see it!
Great Siberian Polynya was described by Lomonosov in 1736.
But I doubt if they checked on it every year after that.
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Definitely Greenland? Why is that Binntho?
Simply because this has to have calved from a huge gletcher that calves into a fjord and such gletchers are only found in Greenland and Antartica. And I somehow doubt that it is from down south ...
Thanks, TIL :)
I would have thought there are big (enough) glaciers somewhere else too (on the NH).
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You really need a huge landbased glacier in order to have an outlet glacier that can calve 500m thick icebergs. The only one that comes close (besides the Greenland glacier) is the Vatnajokull glacier in Iceland at around 10.000 km2.
And then the glacier has to calve directly into a fjord. No glaciers in Iceland or Norway do this, there may be som smaller ones on some of the Siberian or Canadian islands but they lack the huge landbased iceshield.
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In iceberg seen some 80 km off the north-western coast of Iceland. Estimated to be 50 to 70 meters high, and some 500 m wide, probably reaching a depth of 500 meters as well.
interesting to observe the berg's own micro-climate that also helps to understand what happens in the CAB throughout the entire summer and what huge change we're gonna face the day after it all went for good (the last ice)
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In iceberg seen some 80 km off the north-western coast of Iceland. Estimated to be 50 to 70 meters high, and some 500 m wide, probably reaching a depth of 500 meters as well.
It looks like the United Nations General Assembly Building.
I'm trying hard to resist a metaphor here. :-\
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Interesting shape taken by smoke coming from North America above Chukchi sea, west of Barrow today. A new galaxy is forming :
(https://1000ideespourlacorse.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/near-barrow-07-juillet-2019.jpg?w=1400)
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And mostly, no ice will melt under that smoke bowl. [/snark]
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Sadly, not that much ice underneath it!
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I knew there had to be a reason! ;)
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Just a cute little rock in CAA.
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It looks as though they might need to get the lawnmower out in Utqiagvik soon. In several years of visiting the Barrow Webcam I can't remember this area greening up as much. Sign of the times, I'm afraid.
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Nice Helmholtz-like waves at the edge of the remaining ice in the Kara sea today
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Worldview imagery picked up this strange grey cloud complex in Greenland Sea today (7/12). Or maybe its simply the ocean color coming up through thin clouds? I clicked around Worldview on similar dates/different years but could not find anything quite like it.
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Or maybe its simply the ocean color coming up through thin clouds?
That's it. :)
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(https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/imagerecords/145000/145272/kolymariver_oli_2019167_lrg.jpg)
"For about eight months of the year, the Kolyma River is frozen to depths of several meters. But every June, the river thaws and carries vast amounts of suspended sediment and organic material into the Arctic Ocean. That surge of fresh, soil-ridden waters colors the Kolyma Gulf (Kolymskiy Zaliv) dark brown and black.
This image from the Operational Land Imager on the Landsat 8 satellite shows the “blackwater” stream on June 16, 2019. Note that the East Siberian Sea remains covered with ice."
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/145272/kolymas-annual-purge
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Northwest side of Ellesmere. You can see the stacked layers of ice on land.
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Lot of melt on that ice sheet
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The eastern end of the crack to the north of Greenland is visible on Sentinel.
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All the kids are off to the park :)
Watch out for bears
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Well done, Kate!! Another rare human spotting! To honest I don't think I have ever seen kids in the park. I also noticed how large the waves are today - I wonder what the winds are gusting to?
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Scientists write a eulogy/plaque on the demise of the Ok Glacier in Iceland. The first Icelandic glacier to succumb to the warming planet.
https://earther.gizmodo.com/scientists-wrote-a-eulogy-for-icelands-first-glacier-lo-1836542745
Google Maps view of the Ok mountain.
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And that is how we know it´s the Ok glacier and not the OK glacier. ::)
That text is really powerful.
If anyone could paste the danish text here (whole or from This Monument on) or pm it to me that would be great.
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Bréf til framtíðarinnar
Ok er fyrsti nafnkunni jökullinn til að missa titil sinn.
Á næstu 200 árum er talið að allir jöklar landsins dari sömu leið.
Þetta minnismerki er til vitnis um að við vitum hvað er að gerast og hvað þarf að gera.
Aðeins þú veist hvort við gerðum eitthvað.
I hope I have written this Icelandic text without orthographic errors.
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Special characters:
ð, Þ, þ are "th" letters in Icelandic.
ð like "th" in "the" - Þ like "Th" in "Thunder" - þ like "th" in "bath"
æ like Swedish or German "ä"
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Thanks, Stephen. The Icelandic on that plaque is not that great. Here is my idea of an improvement:
Ok er fyrsti nafnkunni jökullinn sem missir titil sinn.
Á næstu 200 árum er talið að allir jöklar landsins fari sömu leið.
Þetta minnismerki sýnir að við vitum hvað er að gerast og hvað þarf að gera.
Þú veist hvað við gerðum.
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..nothing of consequence...
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As can be seen from the pictures, Ok is an almost fully regular shield volcano. The name means (in modern Icelandic) something like "burden", as in "a heavy burden to bear" with the lesser known original meaning of an ox collar.
So basically the same as "yoke" in English.
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The Ok Glacier hasn't been OK for a long time and now it's not even a glacier anymore.
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Bird!
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crosspost:
Thanks again everyone.
johnm33, I occasionally get incomplete contours, so I suppose I will try again, although if I zoom in that far it will be tricky to patch all the images together.
mitch, I've seen the letter sized map, I was hoping for something larger. Though it is pretty good when zoomed using acrobat. I'll try patching that together too.
I tried heavy contrast on the previous compilation and surprise, the contours are there. They are nearly all the same colour though. Here is the heavy contrast version, which satisfies me for now.
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417.0;attach=127612;image)
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This is cool
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Baffin Bay full of scattered icebergs looks like the starry night sky. Quite beautiful.
https://i.redd.it/1zaxpynw53c31.jpg
(https://i.redd.it/1zaxpynw53c31.jpg)
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Ice cap somewhere north of the 79N glacier. The patterns in the ice layers are mesmerizing.
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One of my Facebook friends commented on this picture which is how I got to see it - I've no idea where it is or who took the picture, but somewhere in Greenland seems most likely. Iceland or Norway do not have glaciers calving into the sea, but I think Alaska has ... anybody able to throw more light on this?
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I've no idea where it is or who took the picture
That picture was taken by Christian Åslund in Svalbard:
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/03/my-climate-action-q-a-aslund-arctic-glacier-greenpeace/
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I've no idea where it is or who took the picture
That picture was taken by Christian Åslund in Svalbard:
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/03/my-climate-action-q-a-aslund-arctic-glacier-greenpeace/
Ok thanks! At least the new one is by him. The other pictures that go with that article are pretty amazing as well!
And I must admit that I had no idea that Svalbard had so many decent sized glaciers, even sea calving ones. It's clearly a bigger place than I had imagined.
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One of my Facebook friends commented on this picture which is how I got to see it - I've no idea where it is or who took the picture, but somewhere in Greenland seems most likely. Iceland or Norway do not have glaciers calving into the sea, but I think Alaska has ... anybody able to throw more light on this?
It's in Svalbard
Older Image is from March 1928
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90 years of destruction...those pictures should be posted next to eachother with the dates added.
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The image is off a ice berg, and rather deceptive
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The image is off a ice berg, and rather deceptive
Which one, there are two images and then i think the difference is so huge and so obvious that deceptive is a bit an heavy term. Perhaps the perspective is chosen for greater effect but nevertheless there is an ice wall against no ice, no matter what.
If you disagree, no problem but then please elaborate so that a normal viewer can make up his mind, thanks.
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The top of the second (of 2, probably not proper geologic counting) low hills is not even visible and the white stuff on the sides is gone in the second picture. What are we missing?
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GIF of two pictures. I note the perspective is off a little: the foreground peak, just visible in the 1928 image, is to the left of where it is in 2017.
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One is a picture of a floating iceberg in front of the boat. It could have come from anywhere. Find an old picture of an iceberg then take a picture without an iceberg there.
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Now where did I see those photos before ? :) .. b.c.
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Now I understand your point, Rox!
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So... fraud then?
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/03/my-climate-action-q-a-aslund-arctic-glacier-greenpeace/#/Aslund-Blomstrandbreen.jpg
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The image is off a ice berg, and rather deceptive
It's not an iceberg. It's a glacier terminus. Look at the other images that were posted in the article, e.g.
(https://i.imgur.com/MykI5zB.png)
The mountain in the middle right of these images is the same mountain as in the images that were posted upthread.
The location of the images in the article is Blomstrandbreen glacier in Svalbard.
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Why is this top moving??
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Why is this top moving??
Low clouds?
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