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Title: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: Vergent on August 30, 2013, 02:38:17 AM
Hurricane season is upon us and I feel compelled to raise the topic that got me banned from American Weather. The New York times published the names and cause of death for the people who died in hurricane Sandy. Some are squemish about death, if that is you, this article is not for you.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/17/nyregion/hurricane-sandy-map.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/17/nyregion/hurricane-sandy-map.html?_r=0)

In reading the list it became apparent that many, if not most, of these deaths were avoidable.  At any rate here is a list of ways to avoid being killed by a hurricane.


At any rate the topic is how to keep yourself safe in a disaster. Any thoughts?

Vergent



Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: Artful Dodger on August 30, 2013, 01:13:42 PM
Hi Verge,

I don't waste any time on AmWX but, how did this get you banned?  ???
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: Vergent on August 30, 2013, 05:45:15 PM
Hi Verge,

I don't waste any time on AmWX but, how did this get you banned?  ???

Lodger,

The title was different, I called it "Hurricane Sandy's Darwin Awards". So I guess evolution is a controversial subject over there. I am sure that if I called it "God's wrath for homosexuality" I would not be banned. They might have made me a moderator.

Vergent
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: ritter on August 30, 2013, 06:00:43 PM
Nice list, Verg. Much of that is applicable to any natural disaster. Although it is really no laughing matter, some of your items gave me a chuckle. Common sense is really not so common, it seams.

I'd add that a small solar charger and rechargeable batteries are also a good idea. Far cheaper than a generator and you can get your cell phone charged up with one, provided there is any cell service. This one is well regarded.

(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbeprepared.com%2Fmedia%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct%2Fc%2Fm%2Fcm_p166_goal_zero_nomad_guide_combo_1500x1500_1.jpg&hash=cbf9a05dbf5d02347ab2537688c95568)

Also, more than the next meal worth of food is an advantage when you don't know when the lights are going to come on again. Best to put this away well prior to any warnings. I live in earthquake country. We don't get warnings so I maintain a few weeks of food in the pantry as well as a week's worth of water and a few gallons of bleach for water treatment should that run out (I live close to a river so have a supply).
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: CraigsIsland on August 30, 2013, 07:04:20 PM
Great list verg - censorship on boards can be a little too much.  :o

I'd like to add that families or dwellings should have a "emergency plan" or phone tree. I don't live in particular heightened risks, but we have light planning for the "1-100 storm" scenarios. Keep a list or binder with the head of household to stay organized and it'll help everyone stay calm if anything did happen. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

The Goal Zero rechargeable batteries are awesome. I have one for my cell phone on my bike like the one in Ritter's picture in case it drains way too much from GPS and sensor collection. Highly recommend their products.
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: Artful Dodger on August 31, 2013, 02:50:21 AM
made me a moderator.
Hi Verge,

If that's your true interest, why not step up to bat at Skeptical Science? ASI Blog contributor Daniel Bailey does just that (he's here on the Forum too, if you want to send a PM). He can hook you up!  8)
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: Vergent on August 31, 2013, 06:20:25 PM
lodger,

No thanks! The only authority I desire is logic.  Back on topic.

If you are in earthquake country, it's a good idea not to live or work in unreinforced masonry structures, nor should you live or work in liquefaction zones.

Vergent
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: Artful Dodger on September 01, 2013, 12:14:33 AM
lodger,

No thanks! The only authority I desire is logic.

Ironically, that's the only requirement for this volunteer position. Which also holds no authority, except that earned through the evenhanded application of reason. At SkS, respect is earned.
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: Vergent on September 05, 2013, 04:19:31 PM
13. Never build your home on a flood plain.

(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FoO8v2ve.jpg&hash=f50b39a55977d33747d819a12dc84e94)

That is not unless you know how to build a house on a flood plain.

Vergent

Photo credit, my daughter E. A. S.
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: ccgwebmaster on September 05, 2013, 05:27:12 PM
That is not unless you know how to build a house on a flood plain.

Or, even better, live on a boat?  :D

Flood? what flood? (I exaggerate a little, sometimes the background conditions can pose you issues, or if you're connected to infrastructure it might have limited scope to go up)
Title: Re: Lessons from hurricane Sandy
Post by: Vergent on September 05, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
(https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRs7ewMb.jpg&hash=69c3bacbf5f9e3dd6df941fac1d4da9d)

ccg

They do that as well, but space is limited in the dry season.

Verg