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Policy and solutions / Re: Ships and boats
« on: January 03, 2019, 07:40:33 AM »

Rolls Royce & Finferries Put To Sea In An Autonomous Ferry
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The Falco used a combination of Rolls-Royce Ship Intelligence technologies to successfully navigate autonomously during its voyage between Parainen and Nauvo in the southwestern part of the country. It is equipped with a range of advanced sensors which allows it to build a detailed picture of its surroundings in real time and with a level of accuracy beyond that of the human eye according to a Rolls Royce press release. The vessel was able to avoid potential collisions along the route using sensor fusion and artificial intelligence.

The Falco is also equipped with an autonomous docking system that can reduce speed and guide the vessel to a safe and secure berth once it arrives at its destination. One additional advantage of the autonomous hardware and systems is that the vessel can be controlled remotely by a “virtual captain” at the Finferries operation center in the city of Turku, 50 kilometers away. The Falco made its way back to its point of origin by remote control. ...
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/01/02/rolls-royce-finferries-put-to-sea-in-an-autonomous-ferry/



WHY?
Terry

Fewer crew are required.The crew can be sitting in an office anywhere with an internet connection (such as a call centre in India) and each crew can remotely operate multiple vessels. Mines are doing the same thing now. It saves them a bundle.

Saving bundles may be the present cause celebre, but when has a bundle ever done anything for you? Are bundles endangered? Are bundles to be hoarded like squirrels save walnuts, stashed in the crotch of a rotting Elm?

To the One in the Cloud


Our Father who began with cards
Hallorith was the name
Then Windows came
And Intel's shame
Was backdoors open to hackers


With hackers now well embedded
Security is a farce
Your secrets open
Your codes broken
In Finland
As it is in Delhi


Give us this day
Our daily fix
But forgive us our incredulity
As we forgive those who disbelieve us
And deliver us not with Rolls Royce Robots
But with  properly captained ships.


Ramen
Terry :)

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More unseasonable rain here in Southern Ontario. Memories of trudging through snowbanks while costumed for Halloween seem almost a fantasy, and White Christmases become rarer each decade.


The annual Spring floods caused by ice dams are a fading memory, as is the annual contest to guess the timing of the ice breakup on the river. It's only frozen across three times since 2004 when I returned. In most recent years I've been able to see grass every week of the year which is so very different from the frigid winters experienced here in the 1950's.


We may have lost the destruction of the yearly spring floods, but tornadoes that used to occur far to our south now wreak havoc locally. Kids no longer trust the ice on local ponds for impromptu hockey games, and schools no longer freeze and scrape outdoor rinks.


I haven't seen a horse drawn "cutter" since my return.
The temps, they are a-changing.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: December 21, 2018, 01:14:06 PM »
Let's not have The Road-type discussions (referring to that horrible post-apocalyptic movie).
OK - But, eliminating the discussion won't do a thing to mitigate a situation that a number of our children may be faced with. If not Road Warriors, certainly cherishing "Second Harvests" carefully preserved for sustenance in the lean times.


It's horrible to contemplate, but it's fairly recent history that will be repeated on a much broader scale.
Contritely Yours
Terry

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Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: December 21, 2018, 09:09:58 AM »
My harvesting of amaranthus was into paper bags. I brought them home and within a few days found I'd hatched an amazing crop of flies.
That was ~10 years ago, and it damn near cost me a perfectly serviceable, and well loved wife. She convinced me to leave the weeds alone, and to leave the marketing in her more experienced hands.


I fear that we apartment dwellers will be simply swarm out of our unusable abodes, and after stealing whatever food is available locally we'll spread to rural areas like a famished plague of locust. We'll probably provide a bit of protein for any better armed brigands, but thousands will succeed long enough to kill all your livestock and pillage your fields and stores.


In the American South West for thousands of years the Anasazi not only practiced cannibalism, they dried and preserved their feces as a "second harvest". The Anasazi were agriculturalists with a deep understanding of how to survive without fossil fuels, refrigeration or modern technology.


By the time the Spanish arrived the Paiute lived in isolated family groupings, having lost all knowledge of tribal life, agriculture, clothing, or architecture. For a thousand years they had even forgotten how to make or use bows and arrows. The Spanish knew them as the rat eaters, though in fairness they certainly feasted on lizards from time to time.


We'll have none of the advantages of the Anasazi. How many generations before we end up in circumstances similar to the early Paiute, living naked under piles of brush?
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: How many people can fit in a space dinghy?
« on: December 19, 2018, 08:50:41 PM »
Zero was not an option?


We've tried at least twice in domes here on earth. Why would we be more successful in space - or on Mars?
Terry

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Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: December 17, 2018, 09:06:35 AM »
Asimov's trilogy thrilled me half a century ago. Samsara opened my senses to sights, sounds and emotions I'd not experienced - but the impact is lessened each time the disk is played.


Bruce's infrequent missives from the front lines, where hirsute porcine acornivours vie with organic produce to win the seal of approval from those who ultimately control the fields, the wallows, and access to the market, give hope that some few of my species - abetted perhaps by their suid companions, might escape the winnowing that follows.

Hope, even unrealistic hope, if untainted by miracles wrought by gods or technology, might allow some tiny minority to search out the hard knowledge they'll need to survive the bottleneck that will strangle their peers.


Neither mysticism nor mechanical marvels will save our species. Work, sweat and empathy might spare a few.
Hope!
Terry


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Permafrost / Re: Arctic Methane Release
« on: December 15, 2018, 07:39:28 PM »

If everyone treats the the problem as something for the grandchildren to worry about, then we’re all dead.

Bear in mind that my eldest grandchild is in his thirties. ::)
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« on: December 06, 2018, 03:32:25 AM »
Big snow machines....

https://www.livescience.com/26560-power-plant-causes-unique-snow-near-pittsburgh.html
It is a plot by bbr/the Russians/the Ukranians/China/Saudi Arabia/The Heritage Foundation (delete one or more as applicable) to trigger the glaciation of North America thus destroying the American Empire (and bring on The Rapture ?).
And freeze up our precious bodily fluids!
Terry

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Science / Re: 2018 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« on: December 06, 2018, 02:27:11 AM »
Terry, will you marry me ?  ;D

How sweet!
Terry, please answer Yes!
If we cannot have a reduction in CO2 emissions, at least something good will come on this Forum!


 ;)


My wife may also encourage me to accept this wondrous offer. She's not entirely convinced that my increasing maintenance and upkeep costs are sustainable. ???
Terry

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Science / Re: 2018 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« on: December 05, 2018, 12:13:42 AM »
Here's the Keeling Curve:


Stretched it out over a few decades and it appears quite different.
A tree as compared to the forest perhaps.


While weekly dots plot wavy charts, the yearly trend increases.
We've known of this for decades and we've done nothing to even slow the rate of increase.


Cambodia was bombed into the stone age - and the curve crept up
Vietnam won her independence - and the curve crept up
The Killing Fields made great theater - and the curve crept up
Oil prices peaked - and the curve crept up
Oil prices crashed - and the curve crept up
Hansen addressed congress - and the curve crept up
The Soviets called it quits - and the curve crept up
China industrialized - and the curve crept up
Russia went flat broke - and the curve crept up
Nicaragua was attacked - and the curve crept up
Oliver North introduced generations of kids to "crack" - and the curve crept up
Russia came back from the dead - and the curve crept up
Poppy Bush pulverized Iraq - and the curve crept up
Hummers began plying NY streets - and the curve crept up
America destroyed Afghanistan - and the curve crept up
Clinton killed 500,000 Iraqi kids - and the graph crept up
"W" shocked and awed Baghdad - and the graph crept up
The banking sector failed  and the curve crept up
Ontario pulled the plug on coal - and the curve crept up
Chavez traded oil for Cuban Doctors - and the curve crept up
Obama obliterated the richest country in Africa - and the graph crept up
Chavez died a "natural" death - and the curve crept up
Obama increased fleet mileage - and the curve crept up
Obama's coup in Honduras sees success - and the curve crept up
Putin forgave Cuba's debt - and the curve crept up
Obama signed the Paris Accord - and the curve crept up
Trump "unsigned" the Paris accord - and the curve crept up
Albertan forests burned and production stopped- and the curve crept up
Ukraine's government was overthrown - and the curve crept up
Crimea went home to Russia - and the curve crept up
The "Southern Line" was halted - and the curve crept up
Poland imported American LNG - and the curve crept up
The Hondurans fleeing the coup show up in Tijuana - and the curve crept up
Americans longevity dropped again - and the curve crept up
Musk's cars clocked a million miles - and the curve crept up
Poland preferred it's own coal to Russian gas - and the curve crept up


It seems as though killing Asians, Arabs and South Americans, even in vast quantities, has little effect on Keeling's curve. Bombing either poor or rich countries back to the stone age appears equally ineffective.
Those driving Teslas or Hummers haven't moved the needle any further than those overthrowing various governments have.
We've spent many fortunes on these schemes and more, and we're further behind than we were when Dr Keeling first began making marks on his chalkboard.


It's not as though we haven't been trying.
But when all you manufacture is bomb sights, soon all your problems look like targets.
Terry

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Science / Re: 2018 Mauna Loa CO2 levels
« on: December 04, 2018, 06:29:37 AM »
2.93, Wow!


Will we even get a flat horizontal line before we reach 2 C above pre-industrial, or without civilizational collapse?
Though aware of the need to reduce CO2 for decades, we've instead increased the rate at which they're accumulating.
This inability to cooperate even in the face of extinction is the Achilles heel that doomed our culture, and possibly our species.


It's impossible to claim any progress at all until Dr Keeling's curve has turned back on itself.
How can we possibly explain this to the grand kids?
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: November 28, 2018, 11:17:22 PM »
A Catholic Bishop, an Islamic Iman, a Jewish Rabbi, and a Tesla saleswoman walk into a bar .......... (fill in the blank)


And the bartender bellows "What is this, some kind of joke?

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: November 26, 2018, 10:49:26 PM »
HHI
There is a lot of information re. the Kerch Straits episode than we're privy to.

When and how was the Izunrud damaged?
There is a gaping hole high on her starboard quarter. Far too high above water to have been the result of a collision with the very low freeboard tug boat, and I think too high to have been he result of a collision with the tiny 54 ton gunboats

The only Ukrainian ship in the Azov Sea large enough to have caused such damage is the Donbass, presently listed as a "Command Vessel", but originally the Soviet repair ship PM-9. The Donbass has been based in the Sea of Azov since September 23 when the tug Korets also passed through the strait.
The Korets was the possibly American captained tug that swerved in front of the Don and sustained damage to her starboard quarter.
AFAIK there has been no mention of the Donbass WRT yesterday's actions.

Why is no one else mentioning English broadcasts from the Ukrainian tug at he time of the collision?
Russians, Ukrainians, Americans and other governments must have gone through the audio files from the time of the collision with a fine toothed comb. Why isn't anyone mentioning this anomaly?
I'll wait one more day before mentioning it at some sites that are reporting on the incident, but the silence from all sides seems strange.

https://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fliveuamap.com%2Fpics%2F2018%2F11%2F25%2F21747727_0.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fliveuamap.com%2Fen%2F2018%2F25-november-photo-russian-rfcgs-354-izumrud-a-rubin-class&docid=K_j6MMoQVrxMZM&tbnid=TS1ajucbGXLoyM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwj1_-mSg_PeAhUmTd8KHcMyAdgQMwg9KAAwAA..i&w=1024&h=768&bih=431&biw=877&q=RFCGS%20Izumrud%20(354)&ved=0ahUKEwj1_-mSg_PeAhUmTd8KHcMyAdgQMwg9KAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_naval_base_(Ukraine)

http://tass.com/politics/1022937

Terry

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: November 26, 2018, 01:33:53 AM »
I don't speak the language, but this sounds suspiciously like the bridge of the Russian ship screaming at the Ukrainian tug to get the Hell out of the way.

The tug obviously swung in front of the Russian ship and stopped, and just as obviously caused the collision.

https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2-1.mp4?_=1

The Texas accented English drawl (from ~16 sec.) coming from the "Ukrainian" tug makes me question just who was directing the whole operation.

If a Russian speaker could translate it might help.

Terry

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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: November 26, 2018, 01:04:17 AM »
Two possibly unrelated incidents:

1)
Al-Nustra has fired chemical weapons into a residential section of Aleppo injuring ~100 civilians. Syria asks the UN to step in.

https://www.rt.com/news/444829-syria-toxic-attack-un/

As the international outrage grows,



2)
A Ukrainian tugboat accompanying 3 Ukrainian war ships stops directly in the path of a RF coast guard ship, then claims it was "rammed". The RF uses an empty freighter to block Kerch Strait. Russia and Ukraine each claim to have been fired on by the other.

Similar incidents have been the cause of major conflicts in the past. Remember the Maine, remember the Gulf of Tonkin, remember the Lusitania.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/latest-ukraine-russia-opens-fire-ukrainian-vessels-59405716

3)?
Episode #1 is no longer the biggest story in MSM, and a very embarrassing episode that certainly lends credibility to the proposition that it has been the rebels using chemical weapons in Syria all along may be swept under the rug.

3)?
If Russia's newly completed bridge is damaged or destroyed, President Putin's amazing ability to turn the other cheek will be sorely tested.

Terry

Are you aware Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag ?

As are chemical attacks in Syria.


Very much so. The Maine was also not the result of enemy fire and the Lusitania has been found to have been illicitly carrying arms and ammunition.
With this long history of false flags I'm particularly suspicious of naval events that lead to escalations.


I believe that the Sea of Azov events were initiated to bury the news of the chemical attacks by the rebels in Syria. Poroshenko's unpopularity at the polls, and his bid to declare martial law has been cited by a BBC stringer as another possibility for this provocation.


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: October 17, 2018, 12:04:50 AM »
From a disaster... even a maintenance perspective in times of collapse or just broken down infrastructure, I don't like wind turbines that have their main components up so high... How do you get a crain in their with roads out and from what I've heard, they don't last more than five years? ???  Hard to believe that's true so correct me if not.  Vertical Wind turbines have the motors on the bottom and from what they claim, don't kill birds?!
For decades there was a similar one on a vertical axis made from a dozen split barrels that pumped water from a shallow well in Baker California. I don't think it spun at more than 10 RPM, but I ever drove past when it wasn't moving. It looked like a giant clock dial from above.
Very low tech, but it kept his water tank full & I doubt that he had more than $50 and half a day's labor in the thing.
I'm sure he could have kept any number of 12 volt batteries topped up just as easily.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« on: October 15, 2018, 01:12:46 AM »
So all we need to do is to return to 300-325 ppm and all will be right with the world. ::)


As soon as the elite join Elon and are enjoying their terraformed Martian gated communities, the rest of us, thanks to boring technology, will morph into later day troglodyte mole people, separated from the surface not just by miles of mud and discarded Tesla Brick, but by endless solar panels that stretch from GF1 to shining GF3, and the ruthless robots deployed to protect and polish this vast sea of endless energy.


As Autonomous Auto's race from Supercharger to Supercharger, their original purpose of transporting people has been subverted by their preening desire to show off under the admiring sensors of flirtatious young AI convertibles, often brazenly exposing their software.  E-Semis flex their 5th wheels as they languidly sip cooling fluids while sauntering between Giganta-GigaFactories where Alien Dreadnoughts assemble future generations of Autonomous Autos.



Eventually, with the Storms of our Grandfathers behind us. The venerable Keeling ReCurve will descend to 324 ppm, and all will be right with the world.


Terry ???






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Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: October 13, 2018, 08:08:15 PM »
Well, the $7,500 that rich people received to help them pay for their luxury Teslas will be gone before it dribbles down to help the merely well off pay for their promised, but not delivered $35,000 Model 3s.
Buyers need their reservations in by the 15th, and take delivery by the end of the year. Those that handed over their $1,000 based on promises of a $35,000 Tesla, then added another $2,500 to 'keep their place in line", have found that the line handing out $7,500 closed before they had a chance to reach the winners circle.


Bait and Switch used to have negative connotations.
Ronnie's Trickle down Economics was characterized as pissing on the little guy.
Taking poor peoples thousand$ to build rich peoples discounted cars. What a guy!


Dispersing all of a companies rebates to the wealthiest customers, without even offering anything but vaporware, at a $1,000 a pop, to whatever is left of the American middle class is a betrayal of epic proportions.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2018
« on: October 12, 2018, 11:10:36 PM »
Tor


Let us know if you're OK.


Thanks
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2018
« on: October 11, 2018, 11:52:55 PM »
Jim
I'd just heard about the 1M mark & returned to post when I saw your post.


I don't thing the death toll of 6 is within an order of magnitude of where we'll end up.
I haven't been to Florida in decades, but for some reason this one feels like it's hitting very close to home.
Terry


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Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: October 11, 2018, 11:03:02 PM »
Tesla needs a little over $115M per month over the next 13 months to pay off it's outstanding debt.

They shut down the once lauded SolarCity operations in Utah in an apparent attempt at saving money, but how that plays into an evaluation of Tesla's now wholly owned, but hemorrhaging SolarCity subsidiary can only be guessed at.

Back in the 3Q of 2015 SolarCity expected to have 4k employees working out of their $15M facilities in Utah, and the State promised tax breaks of $24.44M, with bonuses if the workforce swelled to 4,500.
https://edcutah.org/recent-wins/solar-city

Alas, this didn't happen, and the former employees will have to move, then re-apply with Tesla if they wan't to retain any connections with their former employer.

Some of the debt that needs to be cleared up over the next 13 months originated with SolarCity, and at the time of the buyout Musk apparently owned (slightly) more of SolarCity than he did of Tesla. In bailing out SolarCity Musk was to some extent bailing himself out using Tesla's stock. As I understand it more than one lawyer has become involved.

I don't think Tesla needs to show that they made a profit in the 3d quarter. I think they need to show large profits every quarter for the next year+.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2018
« on: October 11, 2018, 09:00:50 PM »
The photos emerging are showing the worst hurricane devastation I've seen. We shouldn't need to be reminded that Tor lives somewhere in this region in order to feel compassion for the victims, regardless of who they voted for.
This wasn't a learning experience, this was a catastrophe.

Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: October 09, 2018, 01:02:59 AM »
Many decades ago many of the Southern States began charging trucks passing through by the miles driven on their roads. I've no doubt that something similar will be enacted in every jurisdiction and applied to EV's to make up for lost fuel taxes. Those charging at home, or from solar will still be required to pay their share.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: October 07, 2018, 12:24:41 AM »

i just think that OWN is not an equivalent to BETTER, hope my english allowed to express what i mean.


You are easily understood.
I think this forum is a great place to practice English as we have so many ESL posters.
I've watch as many improved here over the years.


Have Fun
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: October 04, 2018, 07:09:20 AM »
Lurk


You're an important voice here. We seem to think alike, and I need all the help I can get. Convincing others that truths they learned on their father's knee were wrong is no easy task, particularly when TPTB spend millions daily reinforcing those childhood fables.


You've a good command of the language. That can be far more effective than reacting emotionally.


I believe Neven had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he "agreed" with all of Rob & Steve's assumptions. IIRC he was asking how we should react if this were all true, at least that was my impression.


Stay cool
Terry


PS If I'm getting pedantic tell me to bugger off.


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The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: October 04, 2018, 03:43:21 AM »
Lurk


Be calm my friend.
We're in Neven's living room.
Perhaps a little exasperation can be endured without striking out? :-\


Terry


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The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: October 03, 2018, 03:18:52 AM »
A more gilded age: Lord at truthdig compares the gilded age to our own, and we suffer in the comparison.

" no matter which of 1918’s titans of wealth you consider, the corresponding slice of America’s 2018 elite controls a greater portion of the country’s wealth."

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/in-2018-the-u-s-is-even-more-gilded-than-in-1918/

I fear more and more, that the remedy will be a very old one. One oligarch, one lamppost.

sidd


The lampposts are further apart since we left that gilded gaslit frieze,
and the cross posts so much higher
make the hangings so much harder.
Strange fruit swinging in the urban breeze
while no tree grows in Brooklyn.


Apologies to Billy H.
Terry

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The rest / Re: GOP Losing Ground for the 2018 Mid-Term Election
« on: September 30, 2018, 11:25:13 PM »

I suspect that will happen only if the FBI finds some credible evidence to support Ford’s allegations.  If their investigation supports Kavanaugh’s claims or they find nothing, then I would expect a confirmation.  The Democrats have bet everything on an FBI investigation.  If it comes up blank, they will be out of options.  On a side note, the latest poll in Cal, shows Feinstein’s lead down to 11, and her support at less than half.  This is a big drop, since before the allegations of Dr. Ford were presented.
That's a huge loss of support in a very Blue State.
If Ford vs Kavanaugh isn't playing well in California, what does that do to Democratic hopes in much needed Purple States?


FWIW I'm ignoring the possibility of the FBI digging up anything new that will sway opinions in the next few days. Feinstein has had Ford's claims for some time & if more corroboration was out there we would have heard it by now.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« on: September 28, 2018, 08:49:41 AM »
Darvince


That's a recipe for some unbelievable flash floods.
Load up a camper and head for very high land if this begins to look possible. I've seen moderate flash floods and they are no joke.


Stay away, stay safe, and keep us informed.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: September 25, 2018, 05:09:40 AM »
You think there is no difference between a mosquito and a human?


They utilize 3 dimensions, we're creatures of the surface?


They're predators, we're scavengers?


We see them as killers. They see us as a meal.


I've one of their relatives encased in amber - I'm not sure our line will last so long.
Terry




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The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: September 21, 2018, 09:19:19 PM »
Just swung in following a suggestion by sidd.


This thread does indeed seem the ideal place to offer suggestions, regarding the level of civility expected here.
My only suggestion has long been to keep the political separated from the more scientific threads. "The Rest" seems adequate from my prospective.


I believe that some do their argument a disservice by allowing themselves to be drawn into flame wars, hurling imprecations, or when they're reduced to calling others names, but it's the internet, stuff happens.


Have Funn!, Play Nice!
Terry

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The rest / Re: Elections 2018 USA
« on: August 30, 2018, 11:18:05 PM »
Lurk
Your Maher clip with Brennan is one of the most bizarre examples of rewriting recent history I'd ever experienced. The mindless hoots of the crowd could have been dubbed from Planet of the Apes, Brennan and Maher's script could have been lifted from 1984 (the book, not the movie), and Brennan's pleas to keep politics out of the CIA would have worked well as a Monty Python bit.


It would be hilarious if the message wasn't to promote a coup, a civil war, and the nuclear apocalypse.
The mindless cheering from the maddened crowd will stay with me long after Mayer and Brennan's memories have faded. This is what a few generations of raising toddlers on Sesame Street has lead to.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: August 29, 2018, 12:04:59 AM »
Can I try this again, is smaller, more digestible bits.
1-
If a loaded, long haul ESemi can  go 1 mile on 2kW of battery supplied power, then by the end of a normal 1 day's run consisting of 500 miles, it will require 2kW X 500 miles or 1,000kW - which can be written as 1mW or one mega Watt, to recharge the vehicle - ignoring losses inherent in charging.
2-
If 10 ESemis require charging each hour then the charging station will have used 240mW of electricity during a 24 hour period.
3-
If the charging station is powered by solar, then a battery that captured only ~120mW of the solar output might be able to keep up in summer months, assuming that the sky remained clear throughout the day. If overcast weather that caused the solar panels to not function for up to 4 days was a possibility, then the backup battery for this one site would need to be capable of storing and regurgitating 240 mW X 4+ or ~ 1,000mW or ~1 gW of electricity. This wouldn't of course be adequate during winter, or anywhere that the weather is less than ideal.


Is this math correct?
Am I missing something that invalidates my figures?


I don't see this as any where near sustainable today, nor in the foreseeable future. Even it I'm off by 2 orders of magnitude it's still a ridiculous figure. We can argue about whether it is indeed sustainable, or if 10 trucks per hour might use a truck stop, but I'd much rather have someone point out where my math went wrong.
No snark or gotcha's. I just want to understand where I'm making my error(s) :(
Terry
I'll be away from the internet for ~ 12 hours shortly, so don't assume you're being ignored.

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Science / Re: Comparison: forcings from CO2, CH4, N2O
« on: August 25, 2018, 09:59:40 PM »
Ned W.
The DK is strong in this one, and you've exhibited truly Jobian patience.
Thanks


ASLR
Thanks for providing my first chuckle of the day with
"sidd
When you are wrong you like to double down." ;D




I think it's rather axiomatic that the best way to prevent future forcing is to cut back on present forcings, preferably using the most efficient methods.


Have fun guys
Learning lots, and enjoying all of it. 8)
Terry

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The rest / Re: Poetry
« on: August 23, 2018, 08:58:15 PM »
Bruce
That one brought tears to my eyes.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: August 20, 2018, 11:30:43 AM »
Do you have a faint glow in the dark Terry?
Faint - very faint. As my eyes get older it hardly disturbs my sleep now.
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: August 20, 2018, 11:26:49 AM »
Yeh, but there's this kid living in his mother's basement and he has proved that Putin did everything but start WWI.
Why shouldn't I believe Elliot? He even draws on pictures to make it easier to understand. Noam just thinks he's smart - or somethin.
/sarc
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Decline in insect populations
« on: August 14, 2018, 02:51:08 AM »
I'd somehow forgotten to mention the one insect species that seems to have weathered the current downturn. Tent caterpillars seem to be doing very well, why this should be so I've no idea, but the nests are everywhere.
They used to be considered a terrible pest. Today I'm willing to accept the presence of any bugs that are still surviving.

Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: August 10, 2018, 08:11:57 PM »
Apparently shorts are back in style at Tesla.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/investment-ideas/article-tesla-short-sellers-back-in-force-as-shares-remain-shaky/

Tesla is still America's most shorted stock & shorts are up now as compared to last Monday, prior to Musk's short busting tweets.

BTW, why isn't everyone who believes Elon to be honest not buying his stock at these prices. As I understand it he's promised a buyout at $420. Shouldn't all believers be mortgaging their homes, cashing out their IRA's, and investing the kid's college fund in this can't lose investment?

Terry

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Consequences / Re: Decline in insect populations
« on: August 10, 2018, 08:37:00 AM »
Bruce
It appears as though chlorpyrifos is still used in Ontario.
A twenty mile drive down the river, followed by an outdoor dinner over the water, then a drive home, resulted in no insect deaths on the windshield, 2 houseflies hovering over the dinner table and no other insects or insectivores in evidence.
The days when mosquitoes were rumored to carry off small children are long past, even the annoying insect zappers seem to have gone the way of the dodo.
If 15 years of liberal government couldn't pull the plug on insecticides, there's no chance that the Conservative Clown now running things will even try.
I didn't appreciate the swarms of mayflies, mosquitoes or black flies when they were here, but the silence now is unnerving.
Terry

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Zero Carbon Transportation.

Terry  ;)

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Absolutely. This is what needs to happen. We have the technology. We need to place ourselves on a war footing, recognizing AGW as the existential crisis that it is.
& we need to do this before the Twentieth Century ends. :(
Terry

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I agree with sigmetnow that a few weeks matter absolutely nothing in the long run. What  i am concerned with is the planned automation that stood at the core of the high gross margin did not fully materialize, and that the prodction ramp-up will get to the goal but much less profitably, and with a less scalable production process.. 3 shifts and weekend pay cost more than normal business hours.
As I understand it they have 2 shifts working 12 hour days. The costs under California's labor laws must be horrific. The rosy profit forecasts were for robot built cars that would be churned out with far lower costs than the "dinosaurs" like GM, Ford, and Toyota.

Tesla's stock price is just fine, but how many times can Musk drop $35M to prop it up? As I understand it he's borrowing money on his stocks to buy more of them, is this far removed from paying your Visa bill with your MasterCard? The bond market is where trouble has set in and I'm not convinced that they will be swayed by 700+ cars built today.

Pointing out that GM and Toyota have long histories of making cars and perfecting assembly lines is entirely valid - until one recalls that Musk had built an assembly line that he thought would put theirs to shame.
What happened of course is that Musk was wrong, and has been forthright in admitting this error.
Now he has financial problems, and it appears that he's stripping his investment in his cousin's solar business to lower the overhead. How much is the $2B Solar City acquisition worth after a 62% drop in installations followed by a cut in personnel and pulling out of a apparently successful sales partnership with Home Depot?

We need increasing numbers of EVs, and Musk gets full credit for trying to make this a reality. I just wish someone else was leading the charge.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/SolarCity-once-king-of-rooftop-solar-slips-into-13035846.php

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/30/tesla-cuts-hit-close-to-home/

My local VW dealer told me they sold out of their 2018 allotment of EVs in November of 2017. I wasn't even aware that VW was offering an EV. There is a real pent up demand for these vehicles and someone will meet it.
Musk deserves to be the one to profit from this, but the world isn't always just.
Terry

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The rest / Re: GOP Losing Ground for the 2018 Mid-Term Election
« on: June 26, 2018, 05:58:46 PM »
I suppose it's legal to go after an opponent by proposing obviously unconstitutional bills, but it's an obvious waste of time and resources. If my Rep. was playing silly games like this instead of working on relevant legislation I might be tempted to vote for someone else come November. >:(


Low voter turnout may result from these grade school antics.

Terry





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The rest / Re: The Dems blow the election again
« on: May 25, 2018, 01:51:08 AM »
Stacey Abrams sounds as though she'd make a great governor.
Her positions on education, justice and healthcare seem reasonable, I wish her the best.

Terry

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Consequences / Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« on: May 23, 2018, 09:03:23 AM »

Las Vegas had a law against feeding the homeless that was actively enforced, and every now and then they'd run through the Hoovervilles with bulldozers.
Turning on the park sprinklers each night was also effective in keeping the city looking sharp, though my personal favorite was the posted warnings against "loitering" in parks.
Terry

I'm lucky to live in such a good country (Netherlands)
We don't have the problems you are talking about, New York has more then 60.000 homeless people on a total population of 8.5 million)

We have a total of 30.000 homeless people in our whole country (17 million population)

When you visit Amsterdam you'll see maybe 5 beggars in total if you are lucky that's it.
I left Las Vegas in 2004 and made my way back to Canada. No homeless problems locally. The city built quite an elegant facility, then found they needed to import some have-nots from other communities to keep the place occupied. :P
Terry


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The rest / Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« on: May 22, 2018, 04:52:56 AM »
Terry,

I would appreciate it if you would stop asking me direct questions, as you have a tendency to imagine bogeymen where there aren't any.


Next time I'll be sure to quote your original statement before I ask you to defend it. :)
Terry

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The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: May 20, 2018, 12:41:01 AM »
just something to consider:

- how can we love a country and then especially big countries where one part is so different form another, mentality wise as well as nature wise?

all the same dangerous thing, we should love people as a whole and help those who are ignorant, totally independent on what nationality (passport) they hold, independently of what brands they prefer, where they work and which sports club they prefer etc. etc. etc.

patriotism is evil because it excludes other human beings from belonging to a group while we humans should be "one" group when it comes to basic needs and rights.

Unfortunately we are our father's sons, and those fathers spent tens of thousands of years looking out from the entrance of their caves assured that everyone in his valley was a rational human who could be reasoned with, but everyone in the hills, or in the next valley(s) was a howling monster interested only in stealing his food and his women.


When he could gather a few of his neighbors together they'd hike out of their valley to see how many others they could kill and how many exotic women and foods they could steal.
It's our heritage.


We didn't cooperate and build better ant hills.
We didn't share our loot with foreign looters.
We built carts to haul off our plunder.
We built ships to enable us to plunder further from home, and we built walled cities, moated castles, and hired mercenaries to guard our women and our goods.


It didn't work out too well, primarily because those evil foreigners were doing exactly the same as we were doing - the bastards.


Then we built THE BOMB, so they built THEIR BOMB, then we had to sit down and talk for awhile. Can't have everybody killing everybody!
So we talked for a while and decided to leave the OTHER alone. Iron curtains, Bamboo curtains, anything to keep them out of sight, out of mind.


Now we've collectively screwed up the atmosphere so badly that we need to collectively fix things - fast!!


We're not used to talking, so we threaten, we demand, we obstruct.
We pull out of agreements that might somehow save us all.
We vilify their leaders, their businessmen, their partners. - but it only makes our status more tenuous.


No city walls, no moats, no mercenary armies can save us.
Bigger Bombs, bombastic speeches and electing bumbling fools won't help.


The dam is breaking and there are no high places.
Perhaps the intelligent marsupials that follow will do better than our mammalian species did.
Terry

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Every member of or voter for the Democratic Party should demand the head of every Democratic politician who voted in Satan's Gina Haspel. Where are the marches? Where is the resistance? Probably clapping somewhere for this Avenatti guy, the new Savior.  ::)

But anyway, let's stay positive. The lady in this video is so awesome, but and she's has to go on that stupid, conspiracy theory spewing Jimmy Dore Show,!! because no one else is willing to let her share her message:




Only a few minor alterations. ;)
Terry

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