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Consequences / Re: Chinese coronavirus
« on: Today at 09:20:53 AM »

A snapshot comparing SARS & Coronavirus


Policy and solutions / Re: Ships and boats
« on: Today at 06:23:21 AM »
I believe LNG has been proposed for heavy shipping in the polar route, at least by Russia. Their extant atomic icebreakers leave the door open for nuclear powered super cargo ships should the economics ever make sense.

The fleet of atomic icebreakers is still expanding & the technology has proven itself over time.

Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: January 27, 2020, 09:08:49 PM »

Blame probably reflects your own perception of guilt, I suggest.

It could well be. I've seen many things that I blame humanity (and therefore myself) for.
Take a trip to one of the buffalo "jumps", where buffalo herds were stampeded over a cliff so that a season's, (or a month's), meat might be procured. It tarnishes your vision of pre-Columbian people living at one with nature.
There is a Mammoth kill site in Arizona where the Clovis people killed 13 Mammoths - and ate the right rear leg of one of them. These guys never developed the bow and arrow.

We're more efficient than our technically deficient ancestors, but I feel that it's only because they hadn't developed poisoned bait, high powered rifles or atomic bombs. They didn't burn the prairies to regenerate the land, but rather so they could club a few rabbits.

Blaming the civilization of our kind for the destruction you see may blind you to scenes of family groups preying on other family groups well before they came together as tribes. Civilization & our mastering of technology has only increased the effective scope of our predations.

The Yanomami believed a boy needed to kill a male from a neighboring tribe before he "became a man" - i.e. "before he could get laid". The missionaries found they could attract adherents simply by offering shotguns to their converts. Another success for the White Man's Deity, or simply a more efficient method of limiting population growth among the heathen?

Stay Healthy, but remember that you're the progeny of thousands of generations of predators.

Consequences / Re: Chinese coronavirus
« on: January 27, 2020, 07:20:26 PM »
That's good to hear Silkman, It's a story I'd never been told.

The UK is now taking the 14 day incubation period seriously.

“From today, we are therefore asking anyone in the UK who has returned from Wuhan in the last 14 days to self-isolate. Stay indoors and avoid contact with other people - and to contact NHS 111."

Note that they aren't limiting the instructions to those experiencing symptoms.

I've read that a vaccine won't be available for at least a year - and that's if it doesn't mutate.

I once wandered about in Nevada & So. California for ~18 months with a chemically castrated immune system. Mine had become distracted and was eating the myelin sheath from my nerves and brain.
I avoided door knobs, push buttons and handrails, stopped shaking hands or hugging, avoided large crowds and left the premises when I heard the 1st cough or sniffle. My wife mirrored my actions. Probably good luck as much as anything, but we never had as much as a runny nose until well after my immune system had been replaced through IVIG treatments.

We're about to repeat those rather odd affectations in hopes that this thing passes us by, and we'll be donning masks in public now to be on the safe side.

I'd rather be seen as the strange bird that lives upstairs, than remembered as the friendly chap that died in the pandemic.

Masks are cheap here and altering your habits doesn't cost a nickel.
If you've a job that requires contract with lots of people, call in sick - or take a vacation.

Consequences / Re: Chinese coronavirus
« on: January 27, 2020, 03:27:14 PM »

Will China become a great big 21st century Eyam and be respected for its actions?
I strongly doubt that China, or her leaders, will receive any plaudits for their actions. I do believe that they're due, but not that they'll be offered.

Thanks for the link to Eyam's story! Were they viewed as heroes or fools by their peers?

Consequences / Re: Effects of Climate Change on the biosphere
« on: January 27, 2020, 02:53:44 PM »
I think that part of the difference between terrestrial and ocean habitants is that it's hard to hide a clearcut forest and hard to visualize the demise of a kelp forest. (your pictures help, but few witnessed the kelp ecosystem when it was extant.)

If Halifax's cod were any where near 10% of their historic levels I don't think the Jellys could have invaded Bras d'Or. Not extinction, but a fundamental ecological disruption caused by overfishing.
Whales aren't fish, and they aren't extinct, but they're no longer herded, killed, and fed to captive mink, breed to beautify New York's 5th Avenue doyens in the colder months.

The last of the Stellar Manatees probably died at the hands of whalers, not a fish & not killed by fishermen, but aquatic creatures exterminated by those hunting aquatic creatures.

Grizzlies are alive and well in the Canadian Rockies. We could probably be talked into sending a breeding pair or two, if California would pledge not to engage in bear baiting extravaganzas.

We did donate a lot of beaver to take the place of those exterminated in the brutal quest for better quality top hats, but I haven't heard of how they are faring, or how they'd re-sculpted the riparian  wetlands.

Fishermen, farmers and herdsmen all share in the common goal of producing more food than they consume, but only farmers and shore bound fishermen see the destruction of their land / their bay as affecting their livelihood. The Santa Barbara trawlers, facing restrictions on a single sandy strand soon stray north, south or west until they find greener pastures with fewer regulations in which to practice their trade.
Newfoundland once famously chased a poacher across the ocean and back to her (well regulated) Spanish waters.

In the "Commons" it's the first and the fiercest that profit. The "Commons" are underwater now, and it's there that covert destruction can flourish.


Consequences / Re: Chinese coronavirus
« on: January 27, 2020, 11:51:01 AM »
The Guardian has another constantly updated blog online.

The 14 days of asymptomatic contagion sources is a game changer in my eyes.
For 2 weeks an infected person attends school, goes to work, takes vacations and interacts with friends and family with no knowledge that he's a danger to anyone. Those he infected have have an additional 2 weeks before they develop symptoms, 2 weeks in which to infect the next generation of carriers.

Is our data 2 weeks behind the curve, or further?

We've difficulties getting enough kits to diagnose those exhibiting symptoms. How will those in their first two weeks of asymptomatic infection be identified and isolated?

Western Nations seem determined to break the quarantine WRT their own nationals. That seems a foolish/ungrateful response to the rather heroic Chinese attempt to internalize the problem, or at the least to provide some time for the rest of the world to prepare.

Stay home & Stay healthy

Consequences / Re: Chinese coronavirus
« on: January 26, 2020, 12:41:56 PM »
Thanks Sam
Well researched and well written!

We had our 1st suspected case in Toronto last night, so I opted out of a planed dinner engagement. The patient tested positive, but the result hasn't been confirmed yet?


Consequences / Re: Climate change, the ocean, agriculture, and FOOD
« on: January 26, 2020, 10:27:41 AM »
Did you kill them before boiling them?
Sorry Terry, I couldn't resist ;)
At that time the limit was 10/person/day - without a license!

Myself, a friend, 3 borrowed kids & 5 open net traps, with 5 salmon heads for bait.
One run to drop the traps, a return run to haul them in, then back on the trailer & home to cook them before they tore each other apart.

We'd toss the keepers into the garbage can on board the boat, then on land we'd build a fire under the offloaded can and cook em for 5 min. after they stopped "screaming". ???

Similar to the way they trap & steam lobsters in Newfoundland outports.
Brutal perhaps, but effective, efficient and unbelievably tasty 8)

Policy and solutions / Re: But, but, but, China....
« on: January 26, 2020, 02:23:34 AM »
Is anyone talking about what effect SRM will have on solar installations?

Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: January 25, 2020, 07:09:32 PM »
Discouraging energy use, rather than subsidizing it seems the more sensible option.

If we want 1.50C we apparently need to reduce emissions by 7.6% every damn year starting this month!
We won't get there by providing solar panels to the wealthy, (those that own their own home).


Policy and solutions / Re: Greta Thunberg's Atlantic crossing
« on: January 25, 2020, 06:28:57 PM »

<snipped some more>

Meanwhile methinks that's a bad idea, at least in my case. :)

That's progress!

Consequences / Re: Chinese coronavirus
« on: January 25, 2020, 06:21:24 PM »

Thanks for the thread!

I've a dear friend whose parents are in Jinan, ~450 miles from the epicenter. I'll be talking to her tonight.
I'm not ready to pack up provisions and head into the bush to wait this thing out, but I am fearful for what this could become.
China is working as well as only the Chinese can, but no one has ever attempted quarantines at anything like this scale.

I've a dinner tonight and expect 20 or 25 to attend. If anyone has the sniffles I'll cut out early without shaking hands.
Stay Healthy

Consequences / Re: Climate change, the ocean, agriculture, and FOOD
« on: January 25, 2020, 05:46:44 PM »
For a few years I'd harvest 50 each Saturday at Coos Bay Oregon (in season).

We'd cover them with sea water, then boil them in a pristine galvanised "garbage can" we kept on board. We'd break off the shell and hose out the nasties, then eat our fill and bag up the rest.
With a load in the fridge/freezer of the motorhome, I was very well received whenever I dropped in on friend's while heading up or down 101. :)

Happy Times, and good eating.

Consequences / Re: Decline in insect populations
« on: January 25, 2020, 05:19:07 PM »
Are you sure it wasn’t a Viceroy? I almost got fooled by one in my grade school insect collection.

I'd never heard of the "Viceroy", and can't tell the difference from the photos.

In the 50's we had millions of monarchs in the milkweed field just down from our property. I'd clap my hands loudly and they'd darken the sky, the caterpillars were everywhere.

This appeared to be a monarch that was totally exhausted. It alit on my towel to rest which gave me a chance to look it over before it took off. Parts of its wings were missing as if it had been caught out in a bad storm, I doubt that it lasted the day.

It's the only thing I've seen that looked like a monarch since I've been back, but a friend with a farm closer to the lake told me he'd sited plenty last spring.

Perhaps a return?

Consequences / Re: Pathogens and their impacts
« on: January 25, 2020, 04:59:34 PM »
Great Tom!!

Consequences / Re: Places becoming less livable
« on: January 25, 2020, 12:17:52 PM »
Please keep the link in your private stash. ::)

Consequences / Re: Pathogens and their impacts
« on: January 25, 2020, 12:13:15 PM »
I linked to an updating news blog about the coronavirus on the China, China, China thread,

This subject probably needs a dedicated thread - especially if it proceeds as expected.

Consequences / Re: Decline in insect populations
« on: January 25, 2020, 12:08:24 PM »
We had a cottage at Lake Erie in the 50's. The screens had to be cleaned twice a season to clear out the dead mayflies. I was alarmed when I went back to the cottage in the early 2,000's and couldn't find a single one, alive or dead.

A friend of mine who makes movies in the North Bay region assures me that they're alive and well in the north. She apparently spends half her day cleaning lenses and shooting around the swarms. :)
The local loss of mayflies is a huge loss of available protein. I hope the predators have been able to follow their prey.

Last summer I spotted a single monarch butterfly at Port Dover. I hope they've found a new flyway.

Policy and solutions / Re: Greta Thunberg's Atlantic crossing
« on: January 25, 2020, 11:50:08 AM »
Thanks so much!

Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: January 25, 2020, 11:48:36 AM »
I'm not sure that I disagree with anything you've written, and some of your examples have a very familiar ring to them.
Those of us that can improvise & put things back together that never had been assembled properly will find more work than we can handle, but repairing machines designed to fail is damn difficult, doesn't pay worth a damn, and scavenging parts that can be cross used takes lots of space.

New installations are done by minimum wage kids that don't know & don't care. Then they're sent back to fix up their screw ups. ::)

Integrated systems installed at the factory shield the manufacturers. A Johnson control valve has all of the safety circuits built in, but it wholesales for twice the retail price of a valve and all of the safety sensors. Robots built the valve, by now they are probably are installed in the system by robots. The grunts simply attach the supply line, the leads to the (installed) breaker box, and run control voltage to the (robotically assembled) T-stat.

When the flame sensor fails, the grunt throws in a new $valve because it's "integrated".
The last dehumidiator I looked at had the control voltage transformer built into the board! The OEM board cost so much that replacing the unit made more sense to the customer. (and myself)

I'm on my 3d window shaker in the 15 seasons I've been up here. The first two failed because the manufacturer hadn't drilled out oiling passages for the blower/fan motor. I drilled one myself and got an additional season even with the metal filings floating in the oil I'd added, by the time the second one failed for the same reason it went straight to landfill, refrigerant & all.

It's still fun to putter about, but I'd hate to rely on making these patches for a living.

We used to manufacture water source heat pumps from angle iron, sheet metal and off the shelf compressors. We wound our heat exchange coils on an antique threading machine & built the beasts custom by hand. Myself, my partner and his teenage kid. Damn efficient machines built to be repairable!

We produced and installed ~1/wk & filled our spare time fixing up other's fuckups, hustling commercial ice machines & installing/repairing walkin coolers/freezers. My partner got old, I got sick, and his kid is now in charge of Steve Wynn's HVAC department. Life was good! We heated swimming pools while cooling homes, warmed an oversized commercial septic tank once, and generally made systems that the "installers' deemed impossible.

I think those days are gone.

Robots on the factory floor kick out a thousand units/day, and the "installers"/salesmen take a two semester course at night school that hopefully keeps them from burning the customers building down. Thread in some pre-charged lines and sell it as the latest model, its Green and it will Save You Money!!

Bah Humbug!

Good link - Thanks!

The scum is heavy on our Canadian shores.
It's as bad as what we used to see in Lake Mead Nevada, and the fish there all turned into females at one point!

I wonder if this is somehow related to the lowering testosterone levels recorded in NA males?

Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: January 25, 2020, 04:44:24 AM »
Re: nerve gas

Seek medical help.


Damn good advice!
I inhaled a huge quantity of R-12 that had passed through an Oxy-Acetylene flame. The phosgene, a WW1 nerve gas, left me unable to scale a ladder for >a week.
The doctors couldn't do much about it, but they did make me very conscious of the danger the next times I was welding R-12 systems.

It's not impossible that it is responsible for my present problems, though the doctors think not.

Stay Healthy

The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: January 25, 2020, 03:55:19 AM »
Empire moves to muzzle media: First amendment does not apply to non US citizens

"Julian Assange has no First Amendment freedoms"


But American Laws apply to Everyone!

The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: January 25, 2020, 03:52:17 AM »
Research shows cops picking on non white people: Cops shut down research


If thy right eye offend thee ...
Damn near a Biblical response!
God, Guns & Bubba

Policy and solutions / Re: Greta Thunberg's Atlantic crossing
« on: January 25, 2020, 03:08:35 AM »
With all that you've done to date how are you ever going to be able to lower your footprint by 7.6 percent each year for the next decade? ::)

Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: January 25, 2020, 03:02:15 AM »
Re: What 1st world job can't be done better and more efficiently by the robots/AI

Plumbing. HVAC. House renovation.


You chose the 3 jobs that I spent far too much of my life working in.

Plumbing's been reduced to gluing plastic pieces together. Knowing which plastic pieces go where is in the realm of residential, or commercial space AI designers. Grunts with a glue bottle will be around for a while.

Many of the more recently marketed "window shaker" ACs & Heat Pumps are designed to be plugged in, then landfilled rather than repaired. A robot can take it to the dump when it's time is done. Larger systems can't be far behind.

Renovation for sale or rent has become more more standardized just as living spaces have been reduced in individuality. 3 bedrooms, 2 baths and a family room. A tree in the front yard and a gated entrance to the rear. Clean it, paint it beige and call the realtor - its been renovated!

We've been taught that less is more - more "modern". That the neighbors dark coloured fake shutters create visual diversity in an otherwise identical row of McMansions, some are the mirror image of the others - how innovative!

Grunts will find work until someone decides it's easier to design a throw away replacement. Easier and more profitable!

The rulers are in ultimate control of the robots.

Finance today requires assets, a connection to the world, and a program that tells you which button to press and when to press it. - You take fliers at your own peril! Too many fliers and your assets move to other folders as your financial firm folds.

Administration requires people to order about. No people to do your bidding, no administrator. When your "crew" gets charged up by the Watt/hour instead of by your rousing pep talk, you've lost your administrative position. You're unneeded, unwanted, redundant and soon unemployed. Mid-level management only works when lower levels need to be managed. Upper level management then drops to mid-level management before following them to the unemployment office.

The grunts will exist longer than those ordering them about. The "thinking" jobs go first because their the easiest to replace with a "thinking" machine.

"TOP"-Assignment-"Build a shed to protect these pieces under these conditions".
"A"- Hire design team, order material, assemble shed, deliver shed, return to "A"
"B"- Scan designs, order (appropriate) shed delivered to site, return to "TOP"

"B" can be accomplished before "A" can complete its first task. "B" requires no administrators, foremen, factory or transportation. Even a secretary is redundant.
"B" is the future. "A" is so 20th century.

By the way, when the order is received by the ShedShop Comptroller, modification "x" is initiated prior to the order being executed by the SHEDMACH & the DELIVBOT is fed the address.

Coming soon to a manufacturing hub near you.

Policy and solutions / Re: Greta Thunberg's Atlantic crossing
« on: January 25, 2020, 12:12:49 AM »

If the Swedish Government (along with the rest of the world including the recalcitrant US of A) does "what it promised in Paris", the UNEP estimates a rise to 3.2 C0 this century.
Jim Hansen called the Paris talks "fraud, with no action, just promises".

We need emission cuts of 7.6% per year from 2020 to 2030 to hold global temperatures to 1.5CO. Will you eschew heating your home this winter?, perhaps pledging to never use the AC next summer would be easier.

If we all walked or rode a bike for the next decade that would help. We wouldn't meet the target, but if everyone did it we'd be closer.

Relying on the magic of negative emissions is much easier, even if not more effective, but it is certainly easier than cutting our personal carbon footprint 7.6% each and every year for the coming decade. Prayer is also easier, and probably just as effective as waiting for negative emissions to rapture us away from the consequences of our unholy reliance on fossil fuel.
Hallelujah, pass the hopeum.

In centuries past great minds contemplated the numbers of angels that could dance on the head of a pin. Today we recognize that angels are a-sexual creatures with no interest in choreography, or needles. We struggle to understand the negative mass that negative emissions must surely possess, always assured that in the near future negative emissions will sweep the CO2 from our heavens as efficiently as our Roomba sweeps feline dander from our pristine parquet.

1.5C0 is a levitating pile of Unobtainium marketed by charlatans that would make David Copperfield blush.

Policy and solutions / Re: Robots and AI: Our Immortality or Extinction
« on: January 24, 2020, 09:49:22 PM »
"Living" Robots!

Manufactured from skin cell and heart cells, our friends at DARPA have invented non living creatures that are dying to carry out their every wish. 8)

Frog embryos are providing the tissue for the first announced mini bots that will soon be able to enter veins and deliver whatever drugs are called for to just the right location.
They're advertised as self healing & apparently leave little evidence of having been deployed as they simply rot when their energy source is depleted.

Possibly of use to fight cancer, I imagine that DARPA had other conflicts in mind when they funded this research.

And - there are plenty of other sites harolding this breakthrough by the MIC.

Even in his darkest dystopian nightmares Huxley never imagined our interactions with such mindless living entities.

Sleep Well :(

The rest / Re: Unsorted
« on: January 24, 2020, 09:01:58 PM »
We certainly employed measles infected blankets in the genocide proudly remembered as "Manifest Destiny".

Suddenly Thermal Nuclear Warfare has lost its horror.

The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: January 24, 2020, 08:20:16 PM »
I spent hours on a response, then lost it in the wilds of the interweb. There really wasn't much in it of substance in it.

Have a Great Day!

The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: January 24, 2020, 04:44:21 PM »
Money is fungible & liquid. It's a symbol, a metric with no intrinsic worth. Why are we discussing comic book depictions of wealth in a Journalism Thread?

The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: January 23, 2020, 05:00:19 PM »
Thanks for the link sidd.

This marks the first time in a long time that I've disagreed with Chomsky on a major issue.
I don't find Trump quite as evil as N.C. does, and I find his "lesser evil" to be a far more dangerous choice than he.

Trump is a horrible President, but N.C. considers that another term will cause our extinction as a species. He bases this on AGW and the money Trump has handed out to the MIC. Both valid concerns, but not in my opinion necessarily terminal, or rather not terminal because of the differences in policy between another 4 years of Trump vs 4 years under a Biden Presidency.

The "lesser evil" candidate could be Biden, or one of the other Corporate Democrats. N.C. believes that this evil can be moderated by pressure from the electorate. I disagree. I don't believe that Corporate Democrats are susceptible to any influence except for the influence of their donors, or prospective donors. Would Biden veto MIC handouts, would he defuse the military tensions anywhere? Will Corp-Dems go after Big Oil, or do anything meaningful to meet the Paris Accord targets?

I find disagreeing with Chomsky daunting, & I'm hoping he expands on his reasoning.

Bernie, hopefully with Tulsi as a running mate, or a pox on both Parties.

“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."- Frederick Douglass

From one of the comments at the linked article, but it expresses my thoughts when contemplating a President hand picked by Pelosi and the oligarchs who have hijacked the party I'd supported since LBJ's departure.

The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: January 23, 2020, 02:40:52 PM »

Consequences / Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« on: January 23, 2020, 12:54:11 PM »
The conundrum is that Mitchell, Bush, and everyone involved can't receive the punishments they so richly deserve without the punishers engaging in some variation their crime.

Should Sanders make closing Gitmo a part of his campaign, or has Obama poisoned that well?


Pelosi's position regarding impeaching Bush for torture is well known:

“I have said it before and I will say it again: Impeachment is off the table,” Pelosi, D-Calif., said during a news conference."
Impeachment is a very serious matter, and approving mass torture certainly didn't reach such a level, at least in her mind.


All extraditions to America need to be halted until Gitmo is returned to Cuba, the torturers at every level have been punished by international courts, the victims released, and survivors or the victim's families have been compensated.

Anything less is complicity.

Policy and solutions / Re: Batteries: Today's Energy Solution
« on: January 23, 2020, 10:40:33 AM »
Tear apart a solar lawn lamp and see how the capacitor is used to charge the battery. :)

Watch out, capacitors can bite!

Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: January 23, 2020, 10:32:38 AM »

I fear Rundle's prediction is overly optimistic.

What 1st world job can't be done better and more efficiently by the robots/AI now on the drawing boards? (or in the DARPA warehouses)

In 14 years we may still require humans to sign off on the work that AI/Robots have performed. Some luddites may still prefer human caregivers. (or at least very "affectionate" androids)

With the systems we've already developed we could do far more than half of the work that humans presently perform. As AI designs more products for robotic manufacturing, distribution and servicing, human intervention becomes unneeded, unwanted and ultimately unsafe & unsanitary.

I can't conceive of a field that won't be decimated by 2034, and eliminated soon after.

Perhaps I'm more depressed than usual - but perhaps Rundel is being wildly optimistic.

Policy and solutions / Re: Greta Thunberg's Atlantic crossing
« on: January 23, 2020, 06:37:07 AM »
Is 1.50C from pre-industrial even a remote possibility?

I've no doubt that we'll pass through 1.5 well before Greta needs to hide her grey hairs, and probably before she earns a degree.
1.50C may have been built in before Greta was born. That door has closed.


The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: January 22, 2020, 11:01:54 PM »

That is one hell of a link sidd!  - Thanks
It demands a read by everyone questioning the MSM's position regarding the Ukraine and Russia's reaction to the Nazi coup that both Canadian and American governments support.

Is the much lauded FBI finally coming to the realization that these Nazi's need to be spied upon, infiltrated and locked up?


The rest / Re: Unsorted
« on: January 22, 2020, 09:24:29 PM »
Sadhguru @SadhguruJV ·3h ago
Back in Davos after a decade for #WEF20. We are at an inflection point in the history of our planet. The time for concerted Action is now; scripting an economic and ecologic destiny that is Conscious & #Inclusive. -Sg #Davos2020 @wef


Was a [Sarc] implied?

Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: January 20, 2020, 04:18:30 AM »
If you don't want the financial sector to grow too large, you need to deconcentrate wealth by capping it on  the individual level. There's no other way.
There's no other way? Once again, Cuba doesn't need any sort of hamfisted bureaucratic easily loopholed "cap", they just use a different economic system.... It's that easy mate.
And another reminder, because Cuba's economic system doesn't revolve around profits, they have managed to produce the most impressive climate action plan of any state in the world. They did that while under decades of crippling sanctions from a global superpower.

I'm honestly curious how you think that every nation governing almost 8 billion people are going to implement a worldwide wealth tax. Don't you think it's easier just to change our economic system?
The Cuban Government is proof that The Right is wrong.  :)

Policy and solutions / Re: Electric cars
« on: January 20, 2020, 04:02:29 AM »
Worth a read on Lithium sources.

We are far from out of Lithium.  How much we may want to pay for it, however, is another matter.
How much Bolivia's "Indians" have payed/will pay for it, is a matter we'd rather ignore.


Consequences / Re: Places becoming more livable
« on: January 20, 2020, 03:25:40 AM »
Ideally the decision about parenting a child should be mutual between both parents.
Historically, and probably due to sexual dimorphism, males have claimed the upper hand.

Empowering women (or alternatively dis-empowering men) swings the pendulum toward a more neutral position. Education plays an important role in equalizing this balance of power.

Forcing women (or couples) to raise an unwanted child is barbaric. Forcing a woman to complete her pregnancy against her will is an unthinkable demonstration of domination.


Consequences / Re: The Climatic Effects of a Blue Ocean Event
« on: January 20, 2020, 02:45:56 AM »
The abrupt halt of phase change when there is no ice to melt in a particular basin,(or the entire Arctic Ocean) after a BOE may need to be accounted for.

Energy that had previously been absorbed without raising temperatures because of ice melt will subsequently be raising the temperature of the top layer of the open water. The increased evaporation of the heated water will increase the local atmospheric GH effect, even though clouds and mist may effectively block most of the available Sept. insolation.

Dr. Francis wrote of the uniquely heavy fog and mist she encountered in (late Oct.)? as they steamed toward the Pole near the ESAS in (2012)? in Polarstern. (Sorry, it's been a while) :-[

The heat from waters warmed during summer solstice, then captured under thick clouds is the reason usually given for the large forests and semi-tropical fossils found on Baffin Island.

Once the ice available for phase change has been melted in Sept (BOE), the cloud cover will slow the onset of freeze-over, lowering the volume (and extent)? of ice in subsequent years. This in turn leads to earlier, and more extensive BOEs until we again find camels & turtles living in the Arctic.

The initial BOE, with both the albedo change & the loss of ice to sop up energy at ~00C will signal the beginning of the end of "Ice-Age Earth", and the beginning of "Greenhouse Earth". Some here will live to witness it.

Permafrost / Re: Toward Improved Discussions of Methane & Climate
« on: January 19, 2020, 05:45:54 AM »
Glomar Challenger indeed proved challenging. ;)

"Overnight" encompases ~7 years according to some that have studied the matter, though with flat screens, EV's and transistors it felt sooner.

Carbon-boron clathrates as a new class of sp3-bonded framework materials

"The limited number of 3D sp3 carbon-based structures includes diamond, lonsdaleite (a hexagonal diamond allotrope) (5), B-doped diamond (6), SiC (7), and BC2N (8). These materials all have several attractive properties for applications that include hardness, strength, thermal conductivity, and electron mobility. Boron carbide also contains sp3-hybridized carbon, but these atoms serve as dopants within or linkages between B icosahedra (9, 10), rather than establishing the overall structural framework. Of broader interest are 3D covalent organic frameworks (COFs), which are formed by linking sp2-hybridized molecular building blocks, that have attracted attention for gas storage and separations (11). Compared with the exquisite synthetic control over porous COF materials, the experimental progress in denser sp3 carbon-based structures lags far behind."

As sidd pointed out, superconductivity at room temp. & room pressure may prove a chimera. It may be that the strength of sp3 clathrate bonds has solved the pressure problem. 100,000 PSI is 6.9 kpa, so 50 GPa ain't small potatoes!

It hasn't been getting much ink, which isn't a good sign, but if it does prove out I think it's akin to the world before the transistor and the world after.

Next month I'll be seeing some guys from the Perimeter Institute at a dinner. If they blow it off that will cool my ardor. :)

Policy and solutions / Re: Legal Approach to Climate Change Resolutions
« on: January 19, 2020, 04:45:32 AM »
We let 'em ride in the front of the bus, if they can bare the fare, but driving anything motorized is for adults, adults with a permanent address that can afford to buy, license, insure, maintain, park, and fuel their gaudy, grubstaked vanities.

We don't allow them to set foot on our $B landscaped highways. The dirty, dusty byways and mean urban streets are sufficient for their unsteady lurching trudge. We lock them into schools, jails, or workhouses, even as we lock them out of access to consideration, to respect, especially to even a pretense of justice.

Hell, they don't even vote!

Why on earth would they expect justice from our politically appointed nabobs?
Lawyers are sleazy, Politicians are liars. Combine the two and they're somehow reborn as trusted, Learned Judges, deserving now of Respectful Esteem?

In the '60s some taught us to never trust anyone over 30. Others said "never trust Whitey"
Words to live by?

Consequences / Re: World of 2030
« on: January 18, 2020, 09:10:08 PM »
With climate change, is staying with crops that traditionally grew in a certain region a reasonable goal?

Some of the Mexican/American Southwest agaves can stand (moderate) winters and might be sweeter than cane sugar. Well drained soil & full sunlight seem to be all that's required.


Consequences / Re: Climate change, the ocean, agriculture, and FOOD
« on: January 18, 2020, 08:23:45 PM »
The local "Butterfly Conservancy" serves Chocolate covered Crickets & Cricket Protein Smoothies.
I can vouch for the flavor and texture of their stir fried crickets.

Policy and solutions / Re: Shared Transport
« on: January 18, 2020, 12:00:17 PM »
Great thread - great comments!

I'll dig up some Canadian data when I'm doing a little better.

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