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Science / Re: Comparison: forcings from CO2, CH4, N2O

« on: August 26, 2018, 01:59:23 PM »

Another word rant from Ned. I think this thread should just be locked. Ned claims methane is insignificant, and proceeds to lead everyone down a goose-chase.

For some reason there's a disproportionate emphasis on methane here on ASIF.  It was very important in the past but over the next few decades it will be basically trivial in comparison to the warming from CO2.

As I keep telling people, I have no particular background in this (economics/policy/mitigation issues).  Not that I think it's unimportant, I just don't want to speculate about something outside my area of comfort.

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Science / Re: Comparison: forcings from CO2, CH4, N2O

« on: August 26, 2018, 01:26:59 AM »

All this talk of “do the math” as a winning argument, and no math to prove their side. In fact, Ned hasn’t even posted an “I’m right because...”. All I see is passive aggressive attacks of AbruptSLR, appeals to authority, and outright dismissal of any information opposing his worldview. With a few simple google searches, it’s easy to see he’s wrong.

Even Ned admitted in this thread that he doesn’t know much of what he’s talking about, and then he acts all confident about his opinion. I bet Ned will also tell us 2C is still possible too, bc the IPCC said so, LOL.

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Consequences / Re: Conservative Scientists & its Consequences

« on: August 20, 2018, 08:31:23 PM »

Anyone that thinks that conservative scientists are the problem
instead of our politicians who put their future before their electorates future
is deluded

1) Anyone with good knowledge of politics of knows that politicians don’t do what’s rational and best for their citizens. Sorry, but this reeks of isolated naivety.

2) Conservative scientists provide the ultimate excuse for inaction.

3) At this point in time, talking to the public about 2C is outright deception.

4) In our ultra-capitalist society, money shapes and corrupts every industry. Science and academia is no different. Conservative scientsts hold most of the top positions because their interests align better with the big money.

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Science / Re: 2018 Mauna Loa CO2 levels

« on: May 13, 2018, 03:36:27 PM »

We not only haven't stopped it's growth, we haven't even slowed it's acceleration.


If we added CH4 to the chart it could get scary.

Good to see more people saying this, because I've felt alone repeating it for years. We havent done anything to cut CO2 emissions significantly enough to fight climate change.

The climate movement keeps getting used for purposes other than fighting climate change. The movement spent years caught up pointlessly arguing with deniers, abstaining from politics while publishing articles promising false hope, and even protesting Trump like he caused this problem.

I love hearing this comedy about how horrible Conservative parties are destroying all the non-existent progress of Liberal parties. There was also a good joke a few years back claiming that actual emissions paused, even though CO2 emissions didnt.

Now that CH4 emissions are accelerating along with CO2, this show is starting get interesting. How much longer can people keep lying to themselves that things will be alright?

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