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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: August 25, 2019, 04:15:33 PM »
NSIDC Area 24 Aug - Bits & Pieces
The lion's share was in the Central Arctic Sea

Interesting step pattern in the CAB. We could be starting down a 3rd step...

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The forum / Re: Suggestions
« on: August 16, 2019, 11:51:33 PM »
Missed opportunity with 'thin ice' there...   :P

That one would be good for people on moderation.  ;)

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Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: August 15, 2019, 09:58:06 PM »
From: U.S. Nuclear Reactor Development Tests - Dose Reconstruction Project

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/ocas/pdfs/tbd/nts2-r1-p1.pdf

Document No. ORAUT-TKBS-0008-2 pg 64-75

... June 26, 1968: PHOEBUS-2A, the most powerful nuclear rocket reactor ever built, ran for 12.5 min above 4,000 MW. The duration of the test was determined by the available coolant supply. Designed for 5,000 MW, the test was limited to 80% of full power because the aluminum segments of the pressure vessel clamp band overheated prematurely.



March 1968: The XE PRIME test, the first down-firing prototype nuclear rocket engine, successfully operated at 1,100 MW. The reactor operated at various power levels for a total of 115 min that included 28 restarts. This test series was a significant milestone in the nuclear rocket program and demonstrated the feasibility of the NERVA concept. In this year, the production of the Saturn V chemical rocket was suspended. It would have been the prime launch vehicle for NERVA.

...

B.5.1 pg 75

External exposures were primarily due to the decay of fission products. The reactors were operated remotely. Because of the distance between the operating reactors and personnel, external exposures during tests were, at most, a few millirem. Following the tests, the reactors were returned to heavily shielded cells by rail. Usually several hours to several days elapsed between reactor operation and the need for personnel to enter the cells for maintenance. However, even then the dose rates could have been several roentgen per hour. This required that the work be performed very rapidly with short residence times, often as little as 30 s. There were also exposures to H-8 plume-tracking teams, although they were generally less than those for hands-on work with the reactors.

External Exposure

Conventional dosimetry was used for monitoring the external fields and exposures. These included the survey instruments and film dosimeters employed by REECo, LASL, and LRL at that time. Standard film dosimeters and PICs were used for personnel monitoring. Section 6 of the NTS site profile contains more detail on the external dosimetry used at the NTS.

B.5.2

The primary source of internal exposure was the fission products released during reactor operation. Table B-1 lists the radionuclides identified in the effluent clouds during reactor operation (DOE 1995a). Several of the tests released radioactive effluent of sufficient magnitude that it could be detected off the site (DOE 1995a). Table B-2 summarizes these releases.

Table B-2. Summary of tests of nuclear-powered rocket and ramjet engines which generated radioactive effluent detected off the site (DOE 1995a).

Test name       Date        Time of day (PST) Integrated power (MW-s) Release curies
PHOEBUS 1B   02/23/67  1400-1430           2,600,000                       240,000
PHOEBUS 2A   06/26/68  1137-1209           4,500,000                         51,000

... Special monitoring instruments attached to criticality alarms were used to detect possible inadvertent critical assembly of fissionable material, if requested. Trained emergency radiation monitoring personnel were standing by for emergency support.

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Nuclear-Powered Cruise Missiles Are a Terrible Idea. Russia’s Test Explosion Shows Why
https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2019/08/nuclear-powered-cruise-missiles-are-terrible-idea-russias-test-explosion-shows-why/159189/?oref=d-topstory

... In the late 50's Washington was already beginning to cool to the idea of a nuclear-powered cruise missile. The biggest reason: the missile’s unshielded nuclear reactor would spew radiation along its flight path, potentially irradiating its own ground crew and everyone else between the launch pad and the target.

Anticipating this, Merkle downplayed the danger in his initial 1959 report, using language that sounds ripped directly from Dr. Strangelove. “One problem that bothers the design of reactors to be used near people is the necessity of confining all the fission products to the reactor fuel element,” he wrote. “A typical mission might produce some-what less than 100 grams of fission product. Of these it might be expected that some large percentage would naturally remain in fuel elements…Consequently the fission activity introduced locally into the atmosphere is minute compared with even the most minute atomic weapon.”

Edwin Lyman, senior scientist and acting director of the nuclear safety project at the Union of Concerned Scientists, offers some perspective. “I suppose that at a time when the nuclear weapon states were still engaged in atmospheric testing, there wasn’t a whole lot of concerns about releasing additional radioactivity into the environment. Merkle’s cavalier attitude seems in tune with the era. But such a system should be considered completely unacceptable today,” Lyman told Defense One in an email.

One thing is that to characterize radiation releases in terms of ‘grams’ is misleading. Chernobyl released only a few hundred grams of iodine-131 yet it resulted in thousands of thyroid cancers among children.” He noted that the Pluto tests ejected not only radioactive gases but far more dangerous radioactive particle matter as well.

... Added Lyman, “if the missile was shot down, the fuel would overheat and you’d have a 500-thermal-megawatt reactor meltdown — about one-sixth the size of a large power reactor — but without any containment. Also, the lack of radiation shielding would make it difficult, if not impossible, for emergency responders to approach it.”

That’s similar to the problem Russia is grappling with right now.

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Policy and solutions / Re: A reference personal carbon budget
« on: August 15, 2019, 11:52:59 AM »
Yes they do Terry.
I have been a (MSC) salmon fishcutter and if I spotted a dirty whitish blob somewhere in the fish (after it was smoked), the whole fish was thrown away.
I wonder if every fishmonger shares your integrity?


The one food that I miss here in Canada is Smoked Salmon the way the Pacific Coast Natives prepared it.
Tough as shoe leather, dry as a bone & more flavorful that can be imagined. They have a product here that they refer to as Smoked Salmon that's sometimes sold in hand painted cedar boxes. Best packaging for a food product imaginable!
But it's soft, damp and not all that tasty. The closest I can find locally is something sold as "Candied Salmon" - it's close but it's got a long ways to go.


The best Smoked Salmon used to be sold from the back of pick up trucks along 1 & 101 up and down the west coast.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: August 14, 2019, 01:45:06 AM »
— Nena, “99 Luftballons”[[/b][/i]

That song still stands my hair on end, even just running through my head.


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The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 13, 2019, 07:18:09 PM »
The trick is not to take it way too personally..especially over the damn internet..

That's just it, isn't it. But a lot of folks take even the slightest non-personal disagreement as a personal attack. I just don't get it. Here's a very recent simple example I just read in the Melting Thread:



 :o  "I cannot possibly be wrong!" followed by ad hominem drivel. If you read the preceding posts, there is nothing even remotely off-colour. Only calm reasonable posting of data & thoughts.

I don't understand why many adults turn into witless children when there's a keyboard put between themselves & the rest of the world.  :-\

[post post-preview edit] Just saw the most recent post above me... I give up.  :-[

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The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 13, 2019, 05:39:15 PM »
For Greeks political argument is like argument for ones favorite team of soccer. Lots of word fight and loud arguments but in the end most is all ok. The trick is not to take it way too personally..especially over the damn internet..

Injustice is hard to swallow, in real live and on the internet.

I understand why Sterks felt alone against the bad actor. I was in the same situation before. I'm not following the melting season thread very much because it's anarchy there. And i bet some of the most knowledgeable people on the forum don't follow it either because of the same reason. No wonder the trolls always win...

I like your responses for two reasons: because there's an emotional component in all of us that cannot be quenched and should be more respected, and you are very empathic to that. And because there is an undeniable troll problem.

On the other hand (and I don't want to throw trash over a user that just left this morning), but Sterks should have ignored this user, or waited for moderation. Sterks himself sometimes answered in a harsh way (or that's the impression I got), and it is now clear that he felt also unhappy about broader aspects of the forum. This can be traced to going to the political threads: my opinion is to avoid them as if they were malignant snakes.

On the other hand, the trolls. Sterks showed very little patience with TeaPotty, but he had a point that there is a number of elements that do not contribute, except for trowing obstacles here and there, and usually based on strongly political stances. I would recommend those elements be put on moderation at least, especially if they simply don't contribute otherwise with time.

The emotional component is important. I used to contribute as "seaicesailor" from about 2014 to 2017, when one day I simply got so angry with everybody and with myself. Simply because I was too invested in watching 2017 melt out, which was not happening, and I got frustrated with most of the forum and myself wanting to see signs of meltout that simply did not exist. An idiotic reaction? Definitely :-| but I was a bit of a drug-addict, and I was discovering I was being given methadone when I was expecting heroine.

There is a problem of being too emotionally invested to an Internet Forum that is specialized to watch and dissect a disaster of gigantic proportions in very slow motion. But a tornado, a tsunami, is nothing like this. It is like a long-term drug, like alcohol, or whatnot. This time I am trying hard to keep the Forum under a more limited investment of time, energy and emotions, and I recommend the same to people around, also try to be kinder between each other. Something that I hope to follow myself.


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The rest / Re: SpaceX
« on: August 12, 2019, 03:30:11 PM »
Quote
....  The attached gloves of the suit use conductive leather to allow the astronauts to interact with the Crew Dragon’s primary controls, a set of large touchscreens. Apple iPads will additionally be mounted directly on the thighs of the astronauts to serve as an even more convenient (and redundant) method of interfacing with Dragon’s controls, among other things... (both touchscreens)

Just an observation from the 'lessons-learned' department ...

Navy Reverting DDGs Back to Physical Throttles, After Fleet Rejects Touchscreen Controls
https://news.usni.org/2019/08/09/navy-reverting-ddgs-back-to-physical-throttles-after-fleet-rejects-touchscreen-controls

SAN DIEGO – The Navy will begin reverting destroyers back to a physical throttle and traditional helm control system in the next 18 to 24 months, after the fleet overwhelmingly said they prefer mechanical controls to touchscreen systems in the aftermath of the fatal USS John S. McCain (DDG-56) collision.

The investigation into the collision showed that a touchscreen system that was complex and that sailors had been poorly trained to use contributed to a loss of control of the ship just before it crossed paths with a merchant ship in the Singapore Strait

“When we started getting the feedback from the fleet from the Comprehensive Review effort ... it was really eye-opening. And it goes into the, in my mind, ‘just because you can doesn’t mean you should’ category. We really made the helm control system, specifically on the [DDG] 51 class, just overly complex, with the touch screens under glass and all this kind of stuff,” Galinis said during a keynote speech at the American Society of Naval Engineers’ annual Fleet Maintenance and Modernization Symposium.

... As a result of innovation and a desire to incorporate new technology, “we got away from the physical throttles, and that was probably the number-one feedback from the fleet – they said, just give us the throttles that we can use.”

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... or we can wait for a post-crash investigation to make the same recommendation.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: When will the Arctic Go Ice Free?
« on: August 11, 2019, 05:07:23 PM »
Alternative interpretation: A couple of us try to explain the science to Archimid and he fails to understand and prefers his own feelings of what is right to what the papers are saying.

Anyone want to try reading
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2818.msg216275.html#msg216275
Decide on the matter as you will.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Does El Niño affect Arctic sea ice?
« on: August 10, 2019, 06:03:44 PM »
For those budding researchers who do not heed warnings, this chinese paper might be of relevance: https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,405.0.html

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The rest / Re: Unsorted
« on: August 09, 2019, 12:41:48 PM »
There have been an attempt or two recently to bend this forum to a more climate activist stance. Fortunately, IMHO, failed.

A recent post on SkepticalScience says there are at least 175 US-based organisations doing the the climate change activism thing. and here are the links.

The choice is yours - if you want one.
______________________________________________________________________
https://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/travel/climate-change-take-action-activist-20190716
A Climate Action for Every Type of Activist
No matter your age, gender, race, or political ideology, there are ways to fight climate change that fit your life and values.

https://skepticalscience.com/2019-SkS-Weekly-News-Roundup_29.html   
2019 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #29
Posted on 20 July 2019 by John Hartz
A Climate Action for Every Type of Activist
No matter your age, gender, race, or political ideology, there are ways to fight climate change that fit your life and values.

The U.S. Climate Action Network lists more than 175 member organizations, which are activist groups working through energy policy to fight climate change. And that doesn’t include all of the environmental groups out there. So you have lots of options for getting involved.
_____________________________________________________________________

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The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 08, 2019, 07:21:03 PM »
I also think this kind of shit doesn't and shouldn't belong in this forum.

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The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 08, 2019, 02:16:54 PM »
The problem is that tolerance of hate speech has a way of spiraling out of control.

We're all acquainted with feedback loops here, presumably. Once hate speech is allowed or goes unaddressed, two things are likely to happen:

1) Those who are disgusted by the hate speech are going to be less likely to want to associate with the site--they may visit less frequently, and will definitely not be inclined to recommend it to others

2) Those who want to promote hate speech will be drawn to the site, and work to further degrade it, overtly or subtly.

I don't envy Neven his task of trying to thread needles of promoting free and open exchange of ideas and avoiding the worst kinds of postings. Epithets against national or racial groups, it seems to me, should be a pretty clear line, though.

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The rest / Re: Leftism is a greater threat than climate change
« on: August 08, 2019, 03:06:37 AM »
eenie meanie minee mo .. catch a bigot by the toe .. if he squeals , let go real slow .. eenie meanie minee mo ho ho ho ! b.c.

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Policy and solutions / Re: Green Capitalism: The God That Failed
« on: August 07, 2019, 10:10:29 PM »
If green capitalism can't solve the problem nothing can. Meaning if green capitalism can't solve it, nothing will. The chaos that would ensue with any significant overturning of capitalism would make anything bad happening from climate change look like a walk in the park, and at a much higher rate.

Many people here, leftist and all, would agree with that statement.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: August 07, 2019, 10:05:42 PM »
This just looks to me like bias in moderation.

Absolutely. What do you expect? My forum, my work, my bias.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: "Stupid" Questions :o
« on: August 05, 2019, 01:50:43 AM »
Be sure that your friend understands that a thing can be both a cause and an effect (hence feedbacks). Don't want them to fall for the false denier meme that temperature can drive CO2, so CO2 cannot drive temperature.

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Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: Greenland 2019 Melt Season
« on: August 03, 2019, 06:23:47 PM »
Having spent part of my youth on the margins of the Greenland Ice Sheet (GrIS) during the early 80'ies, I can certainly testify that this year's melt is extra-ordinary. Had we known at that time that melt lakes, crevasses, moulins and the like were as ubiquitous as we see today, we would never have been allowed anywhere near those local danger zones.

In my deepest soul, I am genuinely shocked that this kind of media/Twitter hysteria goes on for days without even the slightest bit of reflection. I know that out there, we have seasoned observers of Arctic reality 10, 20, even 60 years ago. None of those guys are allowed to chip in at the current pace of posting. It's about time to reflect a bit and consider what we have let ourselves into.

Please cool down for a minute and let the old folks contribute. This might add some perspective instead of more details, numbers and noise.

Cheers P


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Arctic sea ice / Re: When will the Northwest Passage "open" in 2019?
« on: August 03, 2019, 06:09:17 PM »
Where is Jim Hunt anyways? Is the Chukchi surfing too good to make time for posting?

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Th Answer is inside us too .. breath deeply .. b.c.

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The forum / Re: How many of you are scientists?
« on: August 01, 2019, 01:38:12 AM »
BS in Geography. I don't post much, but I do read. I am very annoyed at how awful the melting season thread is becoming.

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The problem is very simple.

We all have bills to pay. Paying bills generates CO2.

We can't all live off-grid on a fertile quarter acre.

Economics will take us out before the climate goes full retard.

Fear will kill discretionary spending. Unless you are fixing blocked toilets or painful dental cavities etc, you'll lose your job.

No money = no food.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: July 31, 2019, 11:24:47 PM »

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the function or use of a 1-year trailing average?

This is an amusing question coming from you Killian. You don't seem too concerned with function in your own posts. What's the utility of your guessing extent losses every day?

Note...your posts don't bother me at all. They're harmless and a source of amusement. But there is irony in your questioning the value of more interesting data.

Rich, from the moment you have registered as a member here, you've been causing frictions. Going into August (a very important one), I'd appreciate it if you could refrain from behaviour that distracts from the topics at hand. Killian asked a perfectly sensible question.

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Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: July 31, 2019, 04:28:35 PM »
Ultra-thin layers of rust generate electricity from flowing water

Quote
New research conducted by scientists at Caltech and Northwestern University shows that thin films of rust—iron oxide—can generate electricity when saltwater flows over them. These films represent an entirely new way of generating electricity and could be used to develop new forms of sustainable power production.

Energy conversion via metal nanolayers

Interesting.  Seems to need either a salinity gradient or oscillatory flow.  Possibly one could use ocean wave action to provide oscillatory flow.  Perhaps a tethered floating device could work around the tidal level changes of a shore-based device.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 31, 2019, 04:26:28 PM »
I would rather read or scroll by an occasional post about blueberries in Russia, even though we don't need to infer climate or temperatures through plants in this day and age.

However, when each of the blueberries is followed by 8 (and counting) posts arguing whether it's OK to post about blueberries, that becomes the actual problem. I'd say about 90% of the offtopic posts in this thread is people arguing about whether something was offtopic or not, so perhaps let's cut down on that instead and let the occasional blueberry posts be?

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Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: July 30, 2019, 09:14:07 PM »
My gut instinct is that freshwater is more valuable as freshwater than the energy.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: When will the Arctic Go Ice Free?
« on: July 28, 2019, 04:12:30 PM »
Not free. I followed your link, had to log in ( give information) and then directly request access to the paper. Haven't received it yet.
I had a similar experince the other day, and haven't yet received the paper I asked for.

But I did receive a notice that my name (which is extremely unusual and not shared with anybody else) appears in a "peer-reviewed" article from the Theological department of the University of Iceland! Apparently, in this paper on the decline of religion in Iceland, I and a couple of fellow culprits were named as examples of "extremely loud and obnoxious atheists".

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Walking the walk / Re: Terra Preta / Biochar - Theory and Practice
« on: July 28, 2019, 10:38:56 AM »
.. while I as a 'user' for over 40 years would be happy to tell them the health benefits .. reduced cancer risk , healthy liver . prevention of symptoms of many illnesses , pain relief without addiction and endless other bodily and spiritual benfits . Learn the truth about cannabis and you will want some yourself .. b.c.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Slater's thread
« on: July 27, 2019, 10:51:40 PM »
Having a thread called Slater's Thread means it can be ignored if so desired.

Posting a criticism seems - surplus to requirements, self-indulgence ?

And what if his model is spot on the mark this year?

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Arctic Image of the Day
« on: July 27, 2019, 03:29:06 PM »
I've no idea where it is or who took the picture

That picture was taken by Christian Åslund in Svalbard:

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/03/my-climate-action-q-a-aslund-arctic-glacier-greenpeace/

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 27, 2019, 01:13:07 PM »
I'll need a few days to get up to speed. But given that this is probably the only thread that is worth reading on the Internet, I would kindly ask everyone to stay as much on-topic as possible and/or keep it short.

Edit: Getting up to speed a bit already today, and just two words for now: Lord Almighty...

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Policy and solutions / Re: Low GHG Meat
« on: July 26, 2019, 06:41:28 PM »
Steve, excuse my inter dialog. My farm is zoned for cannabis production but I didn't jump on the money bandwagon. 1500 acres in SB county farmland did. There are many instant millionaires.
I am not morally opposed but it is a diversion and not wine , our other main crop, or weed are farming.
Maybe it is silly to give up on easy money, I am kinda bummed , I hope I don't lose the farm trying to grow food. When the county closed the cannabis cultivation permitting window yesterday, my farm lost one million in land value, land without a permit.
 Gotta go feed critters , organic spaghetti squash by the truckload.
 

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Policy and solutions / Re: Low GHG Meat
« on: July 26, 2019, 06:01:28 PM »
To no one in particular,
Maybe it's an artifact of a hierarchy but with humans , horses, pigs, dogs there is always reshuffling of ones place in the herd. Being at the bottom is bad but nothing is as bad as being ostracized . So for some there is a strong desire to be at the top and rewards for that position . At the other end the punishment is getting booted. The desire to be part of the herd is deep seated.
 To make this a little more personal. I am a pig farmer , I think that is ,in our society , a reflection on status . I am a little embarrassed with polls on education but I still struggle with my position in life and try to keep up. I don't really want to be living totally apart but for me there is something that pulls me that way . Always has.
 So at the very bottom there is a desire to live apart, and when that desire somehow seems more rewarding than the perks of status, when you just can't rationalize the ecological damage of being one more cog in societies wheel ...you walk,  and maybe you heckle a bit on the way out.
 


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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 26, 2019, 05:52:01 PM »
Likely that both are.
Well i wouldn't say "likely" (also, no scorning, remember? :) ) , - but "possible" both are, yes. Which is why i used "at least" in the post you quoted, you see.

But which way? I mean, if you say it's not 2m+ CAB average and not ~1.2...1.4m CAB average, then what is your idea? Somewhere in-between, or <1m? Intresting!
Thin in some places, fat in others.

For a second I thought you were describing me.

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Arctic background / Re: Arctic Maps
« on: July 26, 2019, 05:17:17 PM »
Canadian Arctic Archipelago (CAA) map with many islands and waterways named.
[reference: Wikipedia]

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Melt is way up.

click for full resolution

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Policy and solutions / Re: Space colonization
« on: July 26, 2019, 02:08:19 AM »


Let's start with this: the epithet "denier" is only relevant if you mean I deny that humans definitely went to the moon. I'm not arguing that the earth is flat and that the moon is a disc, or that the american flag flapped in the wind. I'm just saying that the whole thing is very suspicious for many GLARING reasons. Most people are unwilling to engage with these issues cuz they will be labelled a denier or they just can't handle the intellectual complexity of the societal implications of a fake moon landing.

So thanks for at least engaging is semi-good-faith.


Congratulations. You have just earned the quickest ignore decision That I have ever made...

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: July 25, 2019, 02:11:32 PM »
NSIDC daily extent

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 25, 2019, 06:37:37 AM »
Rich, you are derailing the main thread. Please stop doing that.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Arctic Image of the Day
« on: July 23, 2019, 07:14:03 PM »
Baffin Bay full of scattered icebergs looks like the starry night sky. Quite beautiful.

https://i.redd.it/1zaxpynw53c31.jpg


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Policy and solutions / Re: Space colonization
« on: July 21, 2019, 07:56:22 PM »
On the other hand,

5 Reasons Going To Mars is a TERRIBLE Idea


and an interview with Bill Nye on the topic:

Should you go to Mars? ft Bill Nye


Between radiation, need for oxygen and food, and toxic Martian soil and dust, human beings are far too fragile for such a scheme. 

Send AI-controlled robots to build habitats and ecosystems and industry.  In a century, with improved technology, we can deliver people to a self-sufficient, tolerable home.  But it would still be a pretty miserable life.

If society can't survive another century, we just don't deserve to expand beyond Earth.

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Breaking NewsAfter years of studying images and datas as you can read above, I can now with full documentation from Landsat 1-5-8 and Sentinel 2 declare a new free island of the coast of North East Greenland, this time we have Lindhard Ø a pretty large island in the release "competition" with aprox. 260 km2 and big enough to become the 10th largest island in Denmark (Greenland and Faroe Islands not included).
It is not every year we see island releases, we had a small one this spring in Giesecke Isfjord https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1371.msg194164.html#msg194164 and a very spectacular release in front of Kjer Gletscher in 2017 https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1209.msg109997.html#msg109997

https://twitter.com/Ecoverycom

I have 2 sets of documentation one from Landsat using data all the way from Landsat 1 (1973 - 2019) and the more recent data from Sentinel 2 (2016-2019).
As you can see from the animations below big differences have taken place during this period.

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Consequences / Re: Heatwaves
« on: July 19, 2019, 01:19:30 PM »
thankfully bliss is not always ignorance .. :)  b.c.

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Consequences / Re: Prepping for Collapse
« on: July 19, 2019, 01:03:55 PM »
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Archimid might know Puerto Rico better than the rest of us and after watching a big Huricane or two rip through maybe he also has a small view into collapse ?

I did live through local, insulated, temporary collapse. No power, no water, no accessible roads, only one radio station, no TV, no internet, no banks to get cash, for weeks and months. It sucked, but I did learn a lot from it.

The most important lesson I confirmed? All my prepping will be moot in the face of global permanent collapse. It will suck. Life will be completely different.

I also learned that preparation gives you an advantage. Every bit of preparation multiplies your well being during collapse. Of all the preparation you can do, Energy is the most important. If you have energy then getting everything else is simpler.
Archimid, I recall your posts during the Maria aftermath quite well. Thanks for those updates, indeed this was a good (very sad) example of local and temporary collapse, under the auspices of the great USA no less. When TSHTF and no one comes to help, it will of course be many times worse.

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The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: July 18, 2019, 01:43:44 AM »
I pm'd Neven from my father's chair earlier. In our hearts there is no death . Love Itself ensures life is eternal .
 b.c. 

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Arctic sea ice / Re: When will the Arctic Go Ice Free?
« on: July 15, 2019, 03:16:25 PM »
23rd August 2027.
End of debate.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 14, 2019, 02:32:56 PM »
It's still growing.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: July 12, 2019, 08:18:53 AM »
I don't want an abortion discussion here.

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Policy and solutions / Re: Geoengineering, another rush for money?
« on: July 05, 2019, 04:31:37 PM »
In many countries, phosphates are already depleted. The most famous example is the state of Nauru. For example, in the US, their production fell by 2 times:



When this happens all over the planet, there will be no forests left.

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