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Consequences / Re: Prepping for Collapse
« on: July 14, 2019, 02:23:36 AM »
Rich, I have stuck up for you several times this season.  Even when you pissed off A-Team with your ridiculous theories. 

I thought you were actually concerned about Sea ice and learning,  even when you attacked Gerontocrat and others for their contributions. 

Now I’m starting to think you are just here to concern Troll. 

There are plenty of places on Reddit and Facebook to do that. 

You have been way more disruptive than Hyperion ever was.  Please take your BS elsewhere.

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Consequences / Re: World of 2030
« on: April 15, 2019, 08:03:34 PM »
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... and I thought with a sophisticated, scientific site.

It is. What I told you is the scientific reason why you can't read simple graphs, said in a sophisticated manner.

But go ahead, cry instead of defending your position.

Honestly no point in even bothering with people who can't see the forest through the trees anymore.

Let em be blindsided at this point. Enough of us have spent enough time pleading that we are in for serious shit this decade. Anyone who has genuinely been paying attention, absorbed enough of the available information and not lying to themselves recognizes the imminent danger we are ALL in, regardless of geography. If one important cog goes, so does the rest of the machine, and we're incredibly close to that - plus we're full speed ahead, not slowing down on emissions, nothing. We're absolutely fucked. Further still, if you've been paying attention you KNOW at this point that we're not getting out of this mess - because the vast majority of humanity is on the same page as this other person - "Nothing will be much different in 2030". Okay, enjoy starving, everyone.

If your response to this thread is "Everything will be fine in 2030 with little difference" you're either just plain ignorant and need to learn that you're just utterly fucking wrong at this point so please STFU now and listen to more intelligent/aware individuals than yourself, or you have an agenda here in suppressing the reality - that global collapse is literally on the doorstep with almost literally no actions being taken to prevent it, only actions that will further exacerbate.

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Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: December 21, 2018, 01:14:06 PM »
Let's not have The Road-type discussions (referring to that horrible post-apocalyptic movie).
OK - But, eliminating the discussion won't do a thing to mitigate a situation that a number of our children may be faced with. If not Road Warriors, certainly cherishing "Second Harvests" carefully preserved for sustenance in the lean times.


It's horrible to contemplate, but it's fairly recent history that will be repeated on a much broader scale.
Contritely Yours
Terry

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Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: December 21, 2018, 09:09:58 AM »
My harvesting of amaranthus was into paper bags. I brought them home and within a few days found I'd hatched an amazing crop of flies.
That was ~10 years ago, and it damn near cost me a perfectly serviceable, and well loved wife. She convinced me to leave the weeds alone, and to leave the marketing in her more experienced hands.


I fear that we apartment dwellers will be simply swarm out of our unusable abodes, and after stealing whatever food is available locally we'll spread to rural areas like a famished plague of locust. We'll probably provide a bit of protein for any better armed brigands, but thousands will succeed long enough to kill all your livestock and pillage your fields and stores.


In the American South West for thousands of years the Anasazi not only practiced cannibalism, they dried and preserved their feces as a "second harvest". The Anasazi were agriculturalists with a deep understanding of how to survive without fossil fuels, refrigeration or modern technology.


By the time the Spanish arrived the Paiute lived in isolated family groupings, having lost all knowledge of tribal life, agriculture, clothing, or architecture. For a thousand years they had even forgotten how to make or use bows and arrows. The Spanish knew them as the rat eaters, though in fairness they certainly feasted on lizards from time to time.


We'll have none of the advantages of the Anasazi. How many generations before we end up in circumstances similar to the early Paiute, living naked under piles of brush?
Terry

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2018/2019 freezing season
« on: October 27, 2018, 11:36:52 AM »
This should probably go in the Arctic Background thread, but it is freezing season news so....

Yesterday I had the wondrously unexpected pleasure of meeting Sir Wally Herbert's wife, daughter and granddaughter:

https://twitter.com/jim_hunt/status/1055878754055151619


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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2018/2019 freezing season
« on: October 22, 2018, 01:13:37 AM »
For all of us seeking a safe place for the collapse or extreme storms...

This is pretty obvious IMO. The northern hemisphere will undergo extreme changes in climate. Every ecosystem will be ****ed.  Mad Max dust storm terribleness most places. The southern hemisphere should be more resilient but it will probably be too hot most places (meaning too much of a deviation from normal for the ecosystem to adapt). Thus being near an ocean will be good cuz oceans won't be able to heat up very easily. Also, being close to Antarctica's ice is another stabilizer. There really is only one place on earth that fits the description: Patagonia. See you there.


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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2018/2019 freezing season
« on: October 21, 2018, 09:14:50 PM »
DMI N 80 average temp hasn't dropped below -8C for about a month and a half longer than normal, which is a record. Next year the only thickish safeish ice will be just north of CAA. Greenland looks set to be the northern hemisphere's center of cold within a decade. Weird weird weather is coming.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2018/2019 freezing season
« on: October 15, 2018, 03:40:34 PM »
I mean if that is the case, on the one hand, it is good news, cause lot of stored heat should go away under this "cold spell", but on the other hand it is really bad news, cause if the area would have been already ice covered it  could have used these weather conditions to thicken a little bit, cause we know how unstable polar vortex is lately, and it is only a matter of time before there is another "attack" from the south. But now even if the ice forms there at the end of this period(7-10days), and that is a big IF, it will be very thin, and very vulnerable if there is another warm air advection from lower latitudes end of Oct or even beginning of Nov.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2018/2019 freezing season
« on: October 12, 2018, 10:32:03 PM »
100 wm2ish. It is not insignificant.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2018 melting season
« on: September 25, 2018, 03:15:12 PM »
It's not over yet, 2018 extent is still flatlining. It's now lower for the day of year than any year since 2000 except 07 and 12.

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Consequences / Re: The Holocene Extinction
« on: September 25, 2018, 11:03:53 AM »
What humans need more than anything else right now is limits--to be limited. Mosquitoes are one of the few creatures effectively putting limits on us.

It would be my great preference if they mostly culled from the top 1% rather than the poorest, but we should still think twice before eliminating one species that is helping to keep our numbers in check, until we are better able to keep our own numbers in check.

We are like deer plotting to rid their island of the last wolves, not realizing that the wolves actually keep the whole population healthier.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2018 melting season
« on: September 18, 2018, 01:01:59 AM »
I like to use Daylight Hours Explorer. It lets you choose latitude and day of the year and gives you a visualization.

http://astro.unl.edu/classaction/animations/coordsmotion/daylighthoursexplorer.html
Oh, so cool, it is!!!!  Far north people got to move to Cancun during the winter to get extra vitamin D...... if'n they don't mind the extra bullets being recently sprayed across the beaches. 

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2018 melting season
« on: September 17, 2018, 07:43:07 PM »
Or if you want to know how solar radiation with latitude changes with date see:


   https://www.itacanet.org/the-sun-as-a-source-of-energy/part-2-solar-energy-reaching-the-earths-surface/


Others have posted similar ones - but as arctic circle is at ca 66deg north - this graph illustrates when incoming energy to the arctic drops to nothing.



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