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The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: February 07, 2020, 06:49:50 PM »
Every time trump tweets "America first" just remember where he got that slogan from...

[picture of KKK members holding an "America first" sign]

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: February 07, 2020, 10:12:07 AM »
Kirk Douglas on Hitler:

"I was 16 when that man came to power in 1933.  For almost a decade before his rise he was laughed at ― not taken seriously.  He was seen as a buffoon who couldn’t possibly deceive an educated, civilized population with his nationalistic, hateful rhetoric"

Policy and solutions / Re: Electric cars
« on: February 04, 2020, 10:34:57 PM »

Your belief that “only rich people snobs have EVs” is simply wrong.  I’m still looking for polls I’ve seen which asked how many people would put their car on the Tesla network. A significant percentage said Yes.

Why?  As Musk said long ago, one could make enough money on the network to cover your car ownership costs — lease payments, insurance, etc. included.  Many people rent out their cars on Turo today for that purpose.  Many cybertruck reservationists said robotaxi capability made the decision a no-brainer for them.

At the Autonomy Day presentation, Musk said you could make $30,000 a year using your car as a robotaxi.  The average car is in use only 5% of the time.  Most of the other 95%, it could be earning you income.

A Forbes writer did his own calculations:
“Using my numbers, and a more modest 40,000 miles per year (so you don't give up your car all the time) I predict a profit of around $17,000 per year if you can pull that off.”

Tesla Promises Incredible Numbers For "Tesla Network" Robotaxi Service

As I wrote above, huge numbers of Model 3s coming back from lease will be owned by Tesla expressly for their network.  (Model 3 leases require the give-back.)  There will be many cars available for the network that are not privately owned.  And fleet businesses will also spring up, although Musk has said existing ride-share companies may not use the Tesla Network.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: September 27, 2019, 03:42:54 AM »
Soooo, I guess those of you who think impeachment is stupid must think that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders are idiots, and have been for two some years. Right?

Oh, and Amy Goodman, too, among many, many other strong, brave progressives...

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: September 12, 2019, 04:36:02 PM »
Creator of Stanford Prison Experiment on Trump's camps: It's how Nazi guards behaved

Link >>

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: September 12, 2019, 12:39:50 PM »
Hey trumpists, hope you are proud of yourselves.

This is taken from r/politics. The reputation of NOAA destroyed instantly because your great dictator manchild can't admit to a mistake.

This is what fascism does...

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: September 12, 2019, 07:24:43 AM »
Trump Administration Officials Arrested for Scamming Puerto Rico Out of $1.8 Billion in Hurricane Relief Funds

Remember when Trump blasted Puerto Rico’s government for their corruption and thievery, explaining that he was the best thing that ever happened to that foreign country whose president’s name he couldn’t quite remember?

Well, it turned out, it was his own people who were actually doing the scamming.

Link >>

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: September 11, 2019, 09:07:09 PM »
Trump Adviser Who Lamented 'Demonization of Carbon Dioxide' Follows Bolton Out the White House Door

President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, was fired (or resigned) on Monday. Now it appears the flotsam he brought with him to the National Security Council could be following him out the door. And it could have a surprising climate upside.

Bloomberg’s Ari Natter reported on Tuesday that William Happer has turned in his resignation from the National Security Council. Happer is a physicist, but he’s best known for being a climate denier who once said the “demonization of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler.” Seriously, you can’t make this shit up.

One of Happer’s big endeavors during his year with the Trump administration was trying to spearhead a “debate” over the validity of climate science between actual scientists and a bunch of doofuses from conservative think tanks. The idea was a favorite of grift master Scott Pruitt, the former head of the Environmental Protection Agency. After he resigned in disgrace, Happer took up the mantle of making the debate happen with Bolton’s blessing. Thankfully, it never did because it would be a huge waste of time for everyone involved, America at large included.

It’s unclear what else, if anything, Happer accomplished on the National Security Council. But with him and Bolton out, there are at least two fewer idiots on the council trying to put a torch to climate science and even worse, ignore its impacts on national security. It’s easy to forget just how outlandish it is to have climate deniers providing key national security advice, but step back and it’s quickly clear how fucked up it is.

Climate change poses one of the biggest national security threats to the U.S. Science backs this up, showing that military bases could be flooded out by sea level rise and storms and that changing weather patterns could destabilize parts of the world. People who don’t acknowledge the threat of climate change let alone the scientific reality shouldn’t be in positions of power. And yet, Bolton (who does not deny climate change but has opposed international efforts to curb rising temperatures) and Happer (who has claimed climate scientists are wrong) have both managed to have long had access to the halls of power; Bolton has had a position in every Republican administration since Regan, and Happer worked in George W. Bush’s Department of Energy.

In fact, Bolton’s lobbying for endless war in the Middle East to keep the flow of oil running uninterrupted has spurred climate change along. The U.S. military is also the largest consumer of oil in the world, and the 21st century “War on Terror” that Bolton backed has kicked carbon emissions into high gear. A report earlier this year found an astounding 35 percent of the military’s emissions since 2001 are tied to the war, helping speed climate change along and resulting in a more unstable future.

The rest / Re: Leftism is a greater threat than climate change
« on: August 08, 2019, 01:38:31 AM »

Hey, Blumenkraut, do you agree or disagree with your Stalinist friends about the ERADICATION of Trump supporters?

There is no place for this in a civilized community. Kraut is a perjorative insult aimed at the German people as a whole and equivalent to calling someone a  nigger, spic or kike.

Simply unacceptable that the moderator will allow individuals on the forum to be the subject of racial or ethnic slurs like this.

The rest / Re: Leftism is a greater threat than climate change
« on: August 07, 2019, 10:51:16 PM »
I really wish you wouldn't, this kind of idiocy makes us all dumber just by reading it.

Arctic sea ice / All Greenland Fjords could be Sea Ice Free in 2019.
« on: August 01, 2019, 02:11:54 PM »
The real big difference, in my opinion, to the Sea Ice situation in 2019 compared to especially 2012 and 2016, is the  sea ice around Greenland and particularly in the extreme north of Greenland including Wulff Land, Nares Land, Freuchen Land, Nansen Land, Johannes V. Jensen Land and Peary Land where at least 30 fjords, sounds and bays alone are located.
I expect all of these fjords sounds and bays to be sea ice free by mid-September 2019 and this never happened before in the history of satellite surveillance, and both 2012 and 2016 looks pretty cold compared to 2019 if you ask me, take a look at the animation you may need to click on it to enlarge and play!

Arctic sea ice / Re: Latest PIOMAS update (July 2019)
« on: July 24, 2019, 08:21:28 AM »
Oren - Barents sea volume graph seems to end at day 180 - is there a further data point ??

PS - Thanks for the great graphs !
Oh dear  :o
I have now edited the original post with the extended chart, and lopped off some heads in the Quality Assurance department.

The rest / Re: How FACEBOOK CENSORED Climate State This Week
« on: July 22, 2019, 03:41:44 AM »
No FB, no Trump. No Trump, we'd at least have a chance to avoid catastrophe. FB is disgusting.

The rest / Re: How FACEBOOK CENSORED Climate State This Week
« on: July 21, 2019, 09:52:48 PM »
I assume that they do that in collaboration with the government.
This idea may be not so far fetched, since

Facebook’s fact-checking effort announced last week that it was teaming up with — an arm of the conservative, anti-science media site The Daily Caller.

The Daily Caller, which has published misinformation about climate science for years, was co-founded by the science-denying Fox News host Tucker Carlson and is backed by major conservative donors, including Charles and David Koch, the billionaire fossil fuel barons who are the single biggest funders of climate science misinformation.

Trump and the Koch Brothers Are Working in Concert

The Koch Brothers Get Their Very Own Secretary of State

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 17, 2019, 11:10:11 AM »

The politics / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: November 09, 2018, 03:40:08 PM »
Trump would like the US to become more like Putin's Russia where journalist who ask difficult questions are murdered.

Oh really?
President Trump would like journalists who ask difficult questions murdered.
How nice of you to say so.

I sure do hope the NSA has 'your number' and are keeping an eye on you ..... and I do hope Neven didn't 'cull' my little comment on Paranoia. Such basic education to raise awareness really is needed imo.

Noted: You can't quote me without subtly changing my words

Also noted is that a comparison of Trumps direction and Putin's reality is what lights your fire.

As for your subtle threat about the NSA I think I'm OK as long as I don't mention Bomb, President, IED, attack, plane, Jihad, Allah, Plutonium or detonator especially in one sentence and post that online. And as for paranoia I use my real name and my profile has my E-Mail address with my domain that is easily traceable. I have nothing to hide do you?   

What's your real name Lurk?, what are your hiding from from?

The politics / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: November 09, 2018, 01:24:07 PM »

It's pretty clear the WH doctored the video.
One more time- it wasn't the WH. And Acosta was being an ass.

It wasn't the Whitehouse but they still haven't apologised for peddling a lie or admitted their mistake. Yet here you are defending them.

What you are defending is a would be tyrant who is trying to overpower one of the fundamental pillars of democracy. Until now the executive was answerable to the people in some way, Trump would like the US to become more like Putin's Russia where journalist who ask difficult questions are murdered. If people don't stand up to him this is what will happen and those that enable him in any way must be opposed.

PS Don't bother with a reply to me, I have had my say and just don't have time to waste on you.

Arctic sea ice / Re: Global sea ice area and extent data
« on: October 23, 2018, 09:15:22 AM »
To my elderly eyes it appears that, in both area and extent, this is likely to be the first time in the satellite record that the autumn local maximum is lower than the summer one. Am I right?

Actually 2016 was the first to do this, and did so for both extent and area.

Actually the first full year in the available series, 1979 was the first. After that no other years until 2016.

Click those attachments for the big view.

The rest / Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« on: October 05, 2018, 12:26:56 PM »
The Hill brings us up to date re. Hillary's Emails, foia requests, Uranium One, William Douglas Cambell's $50k award & Bill's $500mm speech.

Ya know, opinion pieces can't "bring" anyone "up to date"; they can only offer, you know, opinions. (Hence the term.) And that's even more true when the person offering up that opinion is someone like the abominable John Solomon[/url.]

There's no known cure for those who have swallowed whole the HILLARY!BENGHAZI!URANIUMONE!WHITEWATER!VINCEFOSTER!JACKABRAMOFF!MONICALEWINSKY!PRIVATESERVER!HEREMAILS!GEORGESOROS! line of nonsense propagated by Putin and the rabid GOP. But, JFC and FFS, can't we get a little critical thinking around here? We currently have a Russian stooge in the White House, and a passel of Rethuglicans trying their damnedest to permanently lock down their death grip on American political power even if that means instituting a full-fledged autocracy--yet some are *still* mumbling to themselves in the corner about a grandmother who will never again run for office, and who has been cleared of wrongdoing through and despite many dozens of investigations.

What gives? Why the obsession? Why the obfuscation? If you're upset about the way things are being run, stop trying to wrap decades-old conspiracy theories around a couple of retirees, and look instead at the Republican POTUS, or the Republican US Senate, or the Republican US House, or the Republican Cabinet, or the majority Republican state governorships, or the majority Republican state houses, or the Republican US Supreme Court.

The rest / Re: GOP Losing Ground for the 2018 Mid-Term Election
« on: September 26, 2018, 07:02:58 AM »
Things are looking bright for the Democrats in the sunshine state:

Title: "September 25, 2018 - Nelson Takes Lead In Critical Florida U.S. Senate Race, Quinnipiac"

Title: "In the Florida U.S. Senate race, which could be critical to control of the Senate this year, Democratic incumbent Sen. Bill Nelson moves into a 53 - 46 percent likely voter lead over Gov. Rick Scott, the Republican challenger, according to a Quinnipiac University Poll released today.

This compares to a 49 - 49 percent dead heat in a September 5 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll."

That, despite all the money that Rick Scott has spent. Nelson claims Scott is outspending him 5 to 1. I don't usually donate to political candidates, but I did donate to Nelson's campaign.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: September 08, 2018, 08:51:14 PM »

So I agree with Moore.
I think this was an inside job : Trump asked one of his aides to write it and leak it to the NYT.

That interpretation doesn't make sense to me, for several reasons.  First, Trump isn't a strategic thinker.  Second, he demands ridiculous praise from those around him, and attacks criticism with vitriol.  He'd never authorize such an unflattering portrayal, he's far too thin-skinned.

Reports indicate that his reaction to the op-ed was "volcanic."  That's how he responds to threats and betrayals, not how he responds to a clever ploy working.

Finally, I don't see how the op-ed strengthens his hand in any way.  His base thinks he's a savvy businessman, but the op-ed shows him to have the attention span of a gnat--forgetting policy decisions because the paper has disappeared from his disk.  If he can't even hire loyal staff, nobody will have a good view of his decision-making.

The author likely had one of two motivations, patriotism--to unseat a very dangerous President for the good of the country.   Or self-interest.

If patriotism, Coates, Kelly, Mattis, or other possibilities.  But I don't think an anonymous op-ed is the approach a genuine patriot would take.

If self-interest, Pence would be the author, I can't see that anyone else has anything personally to gain.  Pence gets to be President when Trump is removed.

Arctic sea ice / Re: 2018 sea ice area and extent data
« on: August 12, 2018, 10:14:52 PM »
Running back chart update. The tension!

Arctic sea ice / The ice is much thinner than 2012
« on: July 26, 2018, 04:53:34 AM »
I know this post belongs in the melting season thread, but i could only figure out how to post the image below when making a new thread so here ya go.

The ice is way thinner than 2012 and I think that means trouble ahead.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: July 24, 2018, 03:33:45 AM »
What liberals (still) get wrong about Trump's support
After each outrage, progressives believe supporters will drain away. On the contrary: he is giving them what they want

And of course, liberal hysteria helps as well. I can sympathize with that, after watching the idiocy over the Trump-Putin meeting.  ::)

Actually, it did make the news. You are so ready to condemn Democrats you won't pay attention to what mainstream news reports, unless it's on one of those fringe sources you prefer.

Thanks for acknowledging that mainstream news has become for Democrats what Fox is for Republicans?

But seriously, where did it appear on the news, how was it framed, how long did the segment last? And more importantly, why is everybody fine with the collusion with Israel and Saudi Arabia?

So, Russiagate could indeed end in a hot war - but not with Russia, as Neven et al. were suggesting in these threads some time ago. (Rachel Maddow a warmonger - hahaaaahahahaha...)

Yes, sadly, Rachel Maddow is a warmonger now. She has become Sean Hannity's mirror image. It's painful to watch.

(my emph'ed emph.)

Have you ever seriously watched TRMS??? Me European am currently watching live (and for free) with my evening (3 am + ) beer. She's besting herself in fast talking, reciting Manafort trial transcripts. Too fast for the average 'Merrican (and triggering the redneck's anti-intellectual animus...(and heck she's sooo lesbo)). Too fast for me right now (evening beer). But fucken too fast for you, Neven (language genius)????

It seems a lot of "progressive" 'Merricans (useful idiots) only know her show second hand, from the fire and brimstone spewed by her "progressive" non-competitors (angry pseudo-intellectuals like Dore or Maté and other young turkeys)... Neven, I can't evade the impression you also are a "useful idiot" (a technical term) -- I'm not yet thinking you are a Russian asset...

You won't get more detail (court transcripts etc.) on any other news show, mainstream or progressive (not even Amy Goodman, who is progressive without scare quotes). Is that fucken too real and fact based?

Comparing TRMS with Hannity is preposterousness astro-squared.

Once again wading knee deep in the psychopathology of denial (here: shooting the messenger)... Oh poor Homo S Sapiens...

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: July 20, 2018, 01:57:25 PM »
It won't be on the news because it's very old. The new declaration that Israel is 100% a Jewish Zionist state is more interesting. We should be expecting the announcement of the rebuilding of the Temple on the Temple Mount soon.

Market forces will not cause the demise of the market for new ICE vehicles before 2030 nor the market for used ICE vehicles before 2040. The only thing that will drive ICE vehicles off the planet faster is if governments legislate them out of existence. This can be done by...

1. Put in place taxes on gasoline that triple or quadruple the cost of a gallon of gas.
2. Place a luxury tax on all ICE vehicles so as to double the price of a new ICE vehicle.
3. Legislate a large credit for owners of used ICE vehicles who trade them in for EV's and send these ICE vehicles to be scrapped.

This is not an all inclusive list but the effect of each of these is the same. They serve to increase the operating cost of an ICE vehicle when compared to an EV.
All true. But the government could do a lot more on the supply side too. What if the US government were to declare war on AGW, and move to a wartime economy where it is okay for the government to pay for new private factories? Production capacity could quadruple and the revolution would happen much faster.
In more conservative terms, the Fed could as part of its endless QE programs make a $10B loan to Tesla (and to other EV manufacturers). Ramp-up will happen much faster.
BTW, 1 and 2 on your list are already in place in Israel, but availability of pure EVs in any reasonable price range is nil.

Absolutely. This is what needs to happen. We have the technology. We need to place ourselves on a war footing, recognizing AGW as the existential crisis that it is.

Of course government incentives/punishment would help accelerate the adoption of EVs.  I would love to see more of it.  But there were no laws encouraging people to buy microwave ovens, VCRs, air conditioners, computers, or cellphones — yet most U.S. households adopted them within 10 years or less. 

Demand often grows for the weirdest of reasons, but it’s unwise to ignore market forces.  As companies learn how to make a profit selling the kind of EVs people want, the market will grow exponentially.

Don’t overlook the government help we are seeing today, at a more local level:  tax breaks, investments and real estate deals enabling the building of new vehicle manufacturing and battery factories, many claiming “biggest in the world” status.  They are a win for local economies, and, more and more, the factories themselves are being built and run sustainably — which could have been a hard sell if done under duress.  The EV market is readying its great leap forward, even in today’s uncertain environment.

Policy and solutions / Re: Batteries: Today's Energy Solution
« on: June 24, 2018, 01:19:59 PM »
For me, it’s also a matter of mental health.  I won’t spend my life bathed in stress hormones because “Everything’s fvcked.” 

If the bad news is, “There’s nothing to eat but mud,” and the good news is, “There’s lots of mud,” you can choose whether you view your life situation positively or negatively.  My background leads me to believe that things will change, most likely in completely unexpected and previously unimagined ways — and dwelling on negativity simply closes the mind to the development of better things.  ‘Thinking positive’ doesn’t mean I am unaware of, or unimpressed by, negative things.  It means that moving forward requires thinking beyond them. I view them as a driver of innovation, a cliff to climb, not a swamp to wallow in or hold us back.

Movement in the right direction?

DNC votes unanimously to no longer accept money from fossil fuel companies

Now if they can only wean themselves from the Wall Street and Big Pharma teats!

Policy and solutions / Re: Oil and Gas Issues
« on: June 16, 2018, 12:46:07 PM »

What if Canada had spent $200bn on wind energy instead of oil?
Stephen Leahy

In explaining Canada's decision to nationalise the controversial Trans Mountain pipeline for $4.5bn, Bill Morneau went hard on the economic argument. “Make no mistake,” the finance minister said. “This is an investment in Canada’s future.”

In fact, since 1999, more than $200bn has been invested into the Alberta oil sands for that future. But what if that cash had gone into wind energy instead?

Let’s compare.

Extract attached

The politics / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: June 15, 2018, 06:21:35 PM »
@Neven, I have to say that I don't agree with all of Aaron Mate's opinions, but I like his style.
He has his facts straight and makes good arguments.

A definitive improvement over Jimmy Dore, who resorts in personal smearing and promotes right-wing conspiracy theories far too often.

Meh. Mate's a bit of a one-trick pony. His last 16 months of articles for The Nation:

2/2/2017: Stop With the Conspiracy Theories—Trump Is Bad Enough
10/6/2017: Russiagate Is More Fiction Than Fact
11/2/2017: Why the Papadopoulos Plea Isn’t a Smoking Gun
11/16/2017: RT Was Forced to Register as a Foreign Agent
12/5/2017: The Trump Team Definitely Colluded With a Foreign Power—Just Not the One You Think
12/21/2017: More Media Malpractice in Russiagate
2/22/2018: What We’ve Learned in Year 1 of Russiagate
4/11/2018: The Get-Tough-on-Russia Consensus Is Escalating the Crisis in Syria
5/3/2018: Don’t Count on Russiagate to Bring Trump Down
6/13/2018: The Mueller Indictments Still Don’t Add Up to Collusion

IOW, his stance on "Russiagate" has not wavered one bit even as more and more evidence has come to light, and indictments and pleas have piled up. In fact, his thinking on the matter neatly mirrors Trump's own public statements: 1) There was no contact with the Russians. 2) Okay, there was contact, but no collusion was involved. 3) Okay, there was collusion, but it wasn't the bad kind. 4) Okay, it was bad collusion, but collusion isn't illegal, so so what? 5) Even if the collusion was illegal, it wasn't Trump, but Manafort, Michael Cohen, Jared, Donald, Jr., and other people he barely ever met and doesn't really know. 6) Okay, so he really does have long histories with those people; what's wrong with cozying up to Putin? 7) Look! Hillary's emails!!!

FWIW, Mate's pieces at The Intercept and elsewhere show pretty much the same mindset. We get it: Mate thinks there's nothing there. But unfortunately for him--and even more so for Mueller--he's very likely wrong.

The politics / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: June 14, 2018, 10:52:53 PM »
Russian trolls talk a lot, but they present no evidence.

The rest / Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« on: May 21, 2018, 04:21:45 PM »
Donald Trump has ordered an investigation of the investigation that is investigating his own potential wrong doing.  If that is not a conflict of interest then what is?  If the Democrats win control of the House in November, then after they gain control of the House Oversight Committee they should subpoena every GOP official (Nunes, Ryan, Trump, Sessions, etc.) who is facilitating this abuse of power (this is an abuse because Trump is not presenting any evidence of wrong doing on the part of the FBI, when he ordered this sham investigation):

Title: "The Democrats Need to Get Much Tougher on These Trump Scandals or They Will Lose the Midterms"

Extract: "Sunday afternoon at 1:37 pm, the president of the United States tweeted that he is ordering an investigation of the investigation into him. His campaign, okay; but him. Think about that.

Imagine that Hillary Clinton were president and the Republicans were investigating the Clinton Foundation, and she ordered an investigation into that investigation, charging, based on no evidence whatsoever, that the FBI had improperly infiltrated the foundation. And no, this professor is not “proof” of “infiltration.” And anyway, if the FBI has credible reason to believe a crime may have been committed, isn’t infiltration of the enterprise suspected of criminality…their job?

Or imagine that Barack Obama had ordered an investigation into any of the various investigations of the Benghazi consular attack. Or for that matter that George W. Bush had ordered an investigation into the investigation into the Valerie Plame outing.

In any of those cases, Washington would have exploded. But now this president—who, it is documented, has spent 40 years lying to and defrauding people in business, and who lies nearly every time he speaks—and his apologists have so corrupted our system that some people are discussing Trump’s move as if it’s legitimate. Just another interesting twist and turn in Donald Trump’s Washington, ha ha.

No. It’s not. It’s a scandal. It’s the biggest sign yet that Trump knows and respects no law and will use every tool he can to thwart an investigation that is obviously legitimate. We learned over the weekend from the Times that Russia may not be the half of it, a Gulf emissary reportedly offered to help Trump win the election."

Go placidly amid the noise and haste... and remember what peace there may be in silence.
Authoritarians, Kings, & dictators always tell the people they suppress to have such attitudes. Remember: Speaking up leads to health problems.

Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: December 20, 2017, 09:17:52 PM »
Bob Wallace asks why we cannot have sustainable growth so long as the inputs are sustainable.
I do suspect he is asking rhetorically, but on the off chance he is not, I'll take a crack at his question.
Systems cannot grow indefinitely because they would eventually consume everything else, which is not sustainable....
Consider an organism: it goes through a period of rapid growth until it matures when growth essentially stops.
The global human economy will either follow this trajectory, or copy that of a cancer which never matures but overshoots its resources and crashes/dies/kills its host.
Bob further asks if stopping continued growth is dooming countless millions to abject poverty.
There is plenty of wealth in circulation currently, enough to provide every inhabitant of the planet an average 1950s American lifestyle. We have a problem of distribution, not a shortage of wealth.
There is a powerful argument to be made that we have already overshot our sustainable footprint and that we are now faced with the much more difficult task of managing shrinkage.

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