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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: September 18, 2020, 06:04:09 AM »
Here is a chart and table I prepared earlier this year based on PIOMAS volume data... <snip>
     Wow, Oren.  2007 is jaw dropping.  I mean, really.  If any of the experts are lurking around the ASIF this is the time to show your cards.  Calling Drs. Alley, Birkel, Box, Dethloff, Goose, Meier, Notz, Mayewski, Overland, Polyak, Scambos, Serreze, Shuppe, Stroeve, Wadhams, Zhang, and all the rest.  WTF, call Dr. Ruth too.  Sadly, Dr. Konrad Steffen is off-duty. 

      You can weigh in under a pseudonym if association with this scruffy lot is hazardous to your professional reputation.  Dr. A-Team, please report to the operating room!  Patient #2007 lost weight all winter and suffered heavy bleeding all summer!  We need a diagnosis.
     Assuming minimum Volume in 2020 will be no higher than 2019, a quick trip to Excel suggests that the Late Summer 2020 melt was ca. 9.02 M km3 which would be a new record, leaving 2012 in the dust (for that period). 

     ...and that the 2020 Summer Total melt would be ca. 19.01 Mkm3, just 0.26M short of 2012.  All that from an impressive GAAC and a short-lived semi-GAC in 2020, but without any lightening strikes like the GAC 2012.

     With the day 266 to 266 framing, 2012 takes a step back, and 2016 a step forward.  But 2007 is revealed to be a Monster Performance.  It was like Tiger Woods at the 1997 Masters Tournament just crushing the competition.  (That was more than golf, it was a great day for humankind at a private club that barred black golfers until 1975, but I digress...)

     I'm going to have to go back and re-read those Friv dipole posts from this summer.  Now I know why Neven, Friv and others get so itchy when it looks like a dipole might set up. 
Maybe we need a new Glossary entry:  Dipole = Atmospheric Ice Eating Monster. 

Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy Transition and Consumption
« on: September 13, 2020, 11:35:09 AM »

Ah, I see it. His numbers are from a paper by  Ferroni and Hopkirk which has been debunked.

If it looks and smells like BS it probably is.

Looks like he has removed all comments. He's just another BSitter who has given up BSitting because it's increasingly obvious BS.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 28, 2020, 05:03:27 AM »
It seems like the ice in the CAA and the Greenland sea is melting out later than it used to in the past. And my question is if this has anything to do with a melting Siberian permafrost and the last remaining ice cube on Greenland...

In other words: A skewed polar cell that keeps the Americannot side cooler than should be expected in a normal melting Arctic.

The Siberian permafrost is melting for the same reason that the sea ice is melting, a warmer atmosphere. I don't believe they are directly connected. A warm Siberia and cold Greenland are now normal and since Greenland still has it's ice cube it will warm slower than Siberia. Hence, the last of the ice will hang on for the longest in the area north of Greenland.

Some general comments on this thread.

1. Moderators are doing a fantastic job and showing the patience of saints.

2. Kindly cut the emotive language to a minimum. You may be in deep fear and horror of what is going on but discussing that here is not very helpful. (My personal fear is that the ice will stick around longer than expected, hence keeping the trans polar sea route closed rather than open which would be a great benefit to shipping and should reduce the amount of CO2 emitted by it. As far as I am concerned the sooner the ice melts be better, but this is just my point of view and harping on about it in this thread is out of place.)

3. Limit the numerical weather predictions shown/discussed to the first 3 days or so. Discussing what this or that model is doing farther out than that is academic and derailing in my opinion.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 23, 2020, 02:07:20 PM »
A tad off subject, but I would like to give credit to Oren, for his handling of the Moderator position during this melt season. I am sure at times he may have felt that Neven handed him a stick of dynamite. At times the comments this season have been fair contentious, but I think Oren has reigned with the required fairness and discipline.

Thank you Oren.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 23, 2020, 12:31:58 PM »
All, after further consideration I have now deleted or snipped all recent discussion pertaining to a specific user. No one should wake up and find themselves discussed all over the season thread. Whoever missed said discussion, never mind.
Thanks to all who used "report to moderator" today, the advice is helpful.
If anyone feels wronged PM me, don't abuse this thread. For general discussion please head to the forum decorum thread, hopefully not discussing ad hominem but general principles as much as possible.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 23, 2020, 12:27:08 PM »
At this time of the season, any sustained pressure gradient will have an impact on the ice. It will be interesting to see how much the ice can be pushed northwards in the coming week, from the direction of Severnaya Zemlya to the Pole (more or less, not straight to it):

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 23, 2020, 08:44:30 AM »
To be clear: it is NOT appropriate to try and expose users who prefer anonymity, or to challenge them.
(Written in response to discussion now deleted or snipped).
I WILL snip comments when needed. I don't do it much, probably not enough, but I have seen what happens when things are left untended. Comments that could be inflammatory to others or even to one other user will usually get edited before the inevitable backlash and mutual offense taken. It is my professional opinion that this comment "don’t rewrite their comments. We should be able to see what people have said" is wrong. Some statements can be toxic. Sometimes I will just edit out some derogatory words and leave the rest intact. Sometimes I might remove whole sentences (e.g. conspiracy or denial) or even the whole comment (rare).

(Removed part where I discussed the specific issue).

End of discussion, and please leave well enough alone. No need to defend users against my heavy-handed treatment, I have my own inner voice, and if you think some wrong has been done PM me instead of burdening the forum.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 23, 2020, 04:52:18 AM »

Announcing to the whole Forum that you want to know the identity of another participant is inappropriate.  in my view, it's grounds for banishment.  But I'm not in charge here. 

Hmmm OK. <snipped>

Anonimity could be extremely important to people. Exposing a climate scientist could cost them their job, funding, public attention that could mean deniers targeting said person and more.

Nobody gets to tell others whether they want to remain anonymous or not.

Consequences / Re: Wildfires
« on: August 22, 2020, 11:20:03 PM »
This, from the Economist:
Over the years I've heard stories: judges and prosecutors being paid off for sending people to private prisons who need to increase their "workforce". Other stories of manufacturers, especially of furniture and white goods, closing down because they can't compete with prison labour.

On the other hand, it's probably better for them to be working - better physically and mentally - than rotting in lockdown for 23 hours a day.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 20, 2020, 01:49:10 PM »
It is not useful to look at exact number for weather forecast. This is why there is the feeling of coin flipping. That the models go back and forth for exact min pressure at the nearest hPa or max surface wind at the nearest km/h is normal and should not be confusing the forecast. Models are still a bit unsure about the deepening of the low, but in any way and in any case, a wave in the frontal boundary from the complex low linked to ex Kyle, now storm Ellen, is going to deepen. The details of the exact minimum pressure and of which exact wave in the front and of the exact km/h of the max wind and so on are not really relevant. We can be 100% that a low is going to deepen from a wave in this complex, and that it is going to be a wild ride for the Atlantic side. And the ranges of some physical parameters are not going to evolve in the coming days. Precipitable water is forecasted to reached 25 - 30 millimeters in the warm air advection and this is not going to change, strong winds of 30 - 35 kts are also a sure thing, I am ready to bet on thunderstorms northward of the 80°N also, etc... That the low go to the 970s or stall in the bottom of the 980s hPa or that lightning strike will be here or there is asking too much, and is not really the biggest question. The difference between a 980 hPa low with 34 kts of wind and 29 mm / 24 h of rain at max, which develops from this wave, or a 975 hPa low with 36 kt of wind and 31 mm /24 h at max which develops from that wave, is not significant. Weather forecasting is not reading model outputs and going back and forth with them. This is going to be a significant event for the Atlantic side, with the injection of tropical moisture from Kyle, and with implications for planetary rossby waves train, no matter the exact unit of this or that parameter.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 20, 2020, 11:22:56 AM »
Why are people more excited at the ice disappearing and getting their figures right than the disaster the planet now faces because of this?
When we are all looking at the side effects of the melted Arctic will some people be saying well at least my JAXA prediction was right.

Would suggest that most are so tired of trying for years to get those in power, to put the right policies and steps in place to address the issue.  Sadly, nothing that goes on from the science side is likely to have the required impact, unless there is an 'Armageddon" like event. So maybe the sooner the better. FRIV alluded to this, earlier in the season.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 18, 2020, 02:48:39 PM »
Yes, I had seen enough to realize it would be better for the forum and for you to no longer be moderator, and was happy to see you graciously accepting my proposal.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 18, 2020, 02:28:48 PM »
No matter how many rules you have, there's always fuzzy subjective things you will run into, as often as ever, which always lead to disagreements & upset people. No matter what. Been there, done that.

Just sayin'.

I agree. Rules can easily become restrictive, something for trolls to play with, and before you know it, every member needs a lawyer.

A certain amount of civility in the sea ice threads, some occasional cursing, a moderator to keep things short and on-topic, and this Forum is doing just fine.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 17, 2020, 10:23:59 PM »
Signal-to-noise ratio is quite high in the melting season thread.

I think it has improved recently, as usual at this time of year.  It's an annual pattern: in June and July the melt season thread is a mess, due to a very loud minority of folks who think every year that the September extent will be a new record low by a huge margin.  Next, at some point in July or August it becomes obvious that that isn't going to happen, and then those folks disappear or change their tone and the signal-to-noise ratio improves.

The forum / Re: Reading the Forum on a Computer or a Phone?
« on: August 17, 2020, 03:48:24 PM »
Where are the overlapping options? Computer and phone because I’m addicted to ice

The politics / Re: Joe Biden
« on: August 15, 2020, 10:01:39 PM »
Thanks, flor

I happened to hear that Goodman interview, too...very interesting. There were other voices that were not quite as convinced, but clearly she wasn't quite as 'law and order' as some are claiming, and was more liberal than other CA prosecutors and DAs at the time

Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: August 13, 2020, 03:25:04 PM »
These prices are absolute nonsense. The Saudis had bids for solar of around 2 cents per kilowatt hour, if I am not mistaken. Unsubsidized. In general I've seen on this forum prices of less than 3 cents, IIRC.
In addition marginal costs for fossil fuel plants are not just the cost of the fuel, but also the cost of usage-based maintenance and part of the payroll. According to calculations I've seen here, it is now cheaper to build new solar and wind capacity than continue operations of existing coal plants.
When one reads denier blogs, one should not be surprised when the numbers they present are false.

Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: August 13, 2020, 03:06:34 PM »
From the Most Trustworthy News Source :‑J

Nuclear to Replace Wind and Solar

Any factcheck?
Not from me. Life's too short. That website seems to have a mission to prove that American Thinker is an oxymoron.

And the USA is in the process of ridding itself of Nuclear power stations - at least where bribery and corruption have not prevailed.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 12, 2020, 06:55:59 PM »
devoid of deniers

I respectfully disagree. The ones here are just smarter about it, to avoid being banned.

Their are clearly at least 2 and the weatherdude88 is an obvious one, using every opportunity to speak up agains the "currently" obvious. I ratther don't wanna sea what happens upon a "lucky punch" for his case. To that we're currently very close due to the 15% threshold that keeps a lot of almost ice-free/ice-poor area in the extent positive.

Since the matter is easy to solve which apparently many have done already, it's not worth to take this much further from my part. I conclude widelyspread action by the lack of response to his posts recently while a months ago each one of them triggered an unpleasant discussion.

Either way I want to say that the quality of the forum has dramatically increased recently thanks to more frequent and consequent moderation which is not so easy but nobody ever said that good things are easy ;)

That said, we have to tolerant towards the mods upon the few slips because it's a hard job and I as the old saying goes, nobody is perfect, those who think they are the least.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: August 12, 2020, 03:53:28 PM »
For me and many others on this forum getting Covid would be like getting a seat in a game of Russian roulette. Seeing someone using illogical arguments against  actions to limit this risk is distressing when it is you staring down a barrel . Because it is Neven I have  stayed away from the thread so I don't feel the need to react as I normally would reading such gibbering.

We are all human and have our foibles.


The rest / Re: Port of Beirut Explosion
« on: August 05, 2020, 05:01:35 AM »
Trump is about as informed as a hermit hiding out from y2k.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: August 04, 2020, 01:13:53 PM »
Worry not .. PIOMAS shows plenty of thick ice N of Greenland and the pack firmly attached by thick ice to Svalbard . Our eyes obviously deceive us . b.c.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: July 22, 2020, 07:53:07 AM »
So on the gsy, friv row, help a euro out, how was it a racial slur? I know it is close to one for germans but that’s it.

GSY typed 'Friz' (frizzy hair) instead of 'Friv'. He claims it was a typo. It is entirely possible this claim is correct. In dubio pro reo i guess.

I didn't buy it at the time because shortly before he posted an alt-right taking point in the 'George Floyd murder' thread which i deleted. He took offense with me deleting it and started a spamming spree (most of which i deleted as well).

However, if someone accidentally types something that could be interpreted as a racial slur, the reasonable thing to do would be to correct the 'typo' and say 'that wasn't my intent, sorry'. This is, of course, not what GSY did.,2591.msg213040.html#msg213040

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: July 20, 2020, 08:48:14 PM »
Also recently because Oren is relocating so many posts from the main threads . my approach of refreshing the 'recent posts' and clicking on the latest post in the melting season often leads me to confusion and a thread I chose not to go to . I know I'm not alone with this problem .. perhaps forum software can be altered to keep up with all moving ; and change each post's thread title from that of the original posting to the new thread it's relocated in ..
Thanks for this b.c., I just realized my error when moving. I will make sure titles are changed during the move from now on. I only use the "unread threads" myself, not the recent posts list, so was not aware of the problem.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: July 20, 2020, 08:18:53 PM »
because, There isn’t any news about the sea ice in the “ mainstream news “ so any new members have to find the arctic sea ice forum by circuitous means this year. I wouldn’t look at last years number of posts as a goal anyhow because last year was a real mess on the forum. I would like to express my appreciation to all of the moderators this year as trolling is much decreased from last year. I think most posters are authentic and reasonably knowledgeable. Thanks to everyone who shares!

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: July 14, 2020, 09:17:12 PM »
Well, I hope it stays compacted, for the ice's sake.

I was just scrolling around & zooming in w/ Worldview for the first time in a little while. Started getting kinda depressing so I'm just gonna go outside for a bit.

Thanks so much to all the great contributors here, BTW. You're priceless.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: July 14, 2020, 06:20:20 PM »
We're entering uncharted waters.

Uncharted and free of ice...

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: July 14, 2020, 06:34:46 AM »
Lesson from the past:  2011.

High pressure dominated early 2011 and by the 18th of July Jaxa ice extent was 377k sq km ahead of July 18th 2007, which was the record at the time.  Current conditions as at 13th July are now 420k ahead of the previous record year of 2012.  However in 2011 conditions changed dramatically and by the 22nd of July 2011 a low pressure system had taken over.  The lead by then had been cut to 206k and dropped further to be 101k behind 2007 by Aug 1, as low pressure conditions continued to dominate.  In the end 2011 narrowly failed to beat 2007 in Jaxa extent, but did roughly equal 2007 in area with one agency putting 2011 first for area and others second if I recall correctly.

Current forecasts suggest another week of high pressure domination and then a switch to low pressure which would make for a switch at roughly the same time as 2011.  However forecasts at this lead are not reliable, and I think forecasts have suggested a switch early in the second forecast week for a while now and have been delaying this switch.  On the other hand 2007 made its big surge in early July, so 2011 being ahead in later July was certainly an ominous sign.  In contrast 2012 made its big surge in early August.  If conditions do switch to low pressure dominated cloudy conditions in a week or two I'd suggest beating 2012 would become unlikely, and that strong melt conditions need to extend into maybe mid August.  On the other hand I'd say it would need nearly a miracle for melt this year to not beat 2nd position comfortably.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: July 12, 2020, 09:44:00 AM »
I have very little faith in humanity as a collective, but I do tend to give credit to humans as individuals.
Besides, I am a great believer in Hanlon's razor:
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" (or other character flaws).

Edit: sorry BL, wrote this before your comment.


This is a Berlin police note from 1934, translates to:

Blumberg, Wilhelm, cabman, born in 1915, lives (address), for slandering the swastica flag, he said "What a cunt cloth that is." He threw the flag on the ground and said "I'm going to shit on that".

He was arrested.

The whole document can be found here >>

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: July 09, 2020, 02:15:56 PM »
Ive not been watching as intense as earlier years. So if I do now, I must be modest. Even so, what can be seen is worrying. Lots of sunshine over the CAB. On Worldview the snow seems to be gone completely, leaving vast stretches of melt ponds. Structure doesn't look good too. Once there were large rhomboid ice stretches between the leads. They seem to have crumbled everywhere.
In retrospect, may warmth seems to have prepared te scene for heavy melting...
Is this going to be a/the sad year?

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: July 09, 2020, 08:50:09 AM »
Just a quick observation that this graphic of ice movement has pointed straight down the throat of Fram Strait every time I have looked at it this season. That has been sporadic, which also means it has been random, but I have seen it look no other way this season.

That's 2012, folks.

Worse, I have noticed anything mentioned about dipoles setting up, but in 2012 it was the dipole phenomenon that dominated the rush of ice out of Fram Strait, iirc.

That's not 2012, folks, yet here we are watching it flow out into oblivion.

I was certain of a new 2nd lowest record this year as of a bit more than a month ago. Now? I'm wondering if it might not just be a new record, period.

All this speaks to my contention we hit a phase shift in recent years and that phase shift is an overall increase in warming. What else explains the temps and events we're seeing?

And that so much of the melt is over the ESS is disconcerting at best.

If someone has a whisker of a hope as to why the summer will shift to the typical favorable low melt conditions we've seen pretty much every summer since 2012, please share them. If this season is as bad as it seems to be shaping up to, that canary is good and dead.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: July 07, 2020, 01:22:28 PM »
Asking good questions is well encouraged. It enables shy posters and lurkers to receive answers that otherwise they would have had to guess. Normally such questions should go in the questions thread or in subject-specific threads, but it is sometimes acceptable to post them in this thread as well, depending on context, and tone.
Asking repeat questions, in the main thread, in an adversarial tone, for which the answer has already been given and over which a consensus exists in the community, is ill-mannered and is seen as a way to preach rather than an innocent attempt to find answers.
Phoenix - your 850 hPa vs. surface temps question was an example of the latter.
Asking "Can someone explain what is insane with the forecast?" is perfectly acceptable and within context. I often wonder myself, though thanks to the efforts of knowledgeable posters I have learned some of the basics over the years. Had you stopped with that sentence, all would have been fine. But you didn't and are hereby warned, derailing this thread is not allowed and moderation will be swift. Note: If I had been up when the post was made I would have moved it elsewhere immediately, but it already garnered some responses so I will let it stay.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: July 07, 2020, 11:42:31 AM »
OK...what is epic about the 10 day forecast? I see a temp forecast at 850 hpa. Google tells me this is generally about 1.5km above sea level, above the boundary layer.

If I open the GFS forecast and look what's doing in 10 days at sea level, I see the warm spots wherever this is open water in the forecast and all the ice covered areas are actually pretty mild at 0.0 - 1.0C.

The surface temperature of melting ice is always going to be zero until the ice has melted and turned into water - that's thermodynamics - therefore surface temperatures from the ice are not going to tell you anything about how fast the ice is melting. That is why we use 850 hpa temps, because they are not affected by the ice and can tell you something about how much heat there is in the atmosphere. Yes, 850 hpa is 1.5 km above the surface and can in rare instances be misleading, but you'll need a very concrete reason to think so. Peolpe will even use 500 pha temps sometimes.

Regarding 2013 pole melt. 2013 had the exact opposite setup of what we have now. Back then a very persistent cyclone stuck around the north pole for so long that the ice dispersed to the point that it became visible in satellite images (for the same reason that the current anti-cyclone is compacting the ice). Fresh from the GAC-2012 a lot of people, myself included, thought this would spell doom for the ice, but as is usually the case, the cyclone kept the temperature low and actually helped preserve the ice (2013 was by all metrics a huge recovery from the year before). What we see in images right now is ice at the north pole melting in-situ. What we see in images from 2013 is ice at the north pole dispersing from wind action. 

The rest / Parkinsons neuron degeneration halted in mice
« on: July 02, 2020, 12:22:00 AM »
Reversing a model of Parkinson’s disease with in situ converted nigral neurons

One-time treatment generates new neurons, eliminates Parkinson's disease in mice

"Researchers have discovered that a single treatment to inhibit a gene called PTB in mice converts native astrocytes, brain support cells, into neurons that produce the neurotransmitter dopamine. As a result, the mice's Parkinson's disease symptoms disappear. "

"The treatment works like this: The researchers developed a noninfectious virus that carries an antisense oligonucleotide sequence -- an artificial piece of DNA designed to specifically bind the RNA coding for PTB, thus degrading it, preventing it from being translated into a functional protein and stimulating neuron development.

Antisense oligonucleotides, also known as designer DNA drugs, are a proven approach for neurodegenerative and neuromuscular diseases "

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: June 29, 2020, 09:35:17 AM »
The 12z euro below from day 2 to day 10.
Just day 1-4 (June 30 through July 3) is bad enough, and that's high reliability.

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: June 23, 2020, 08:04:53 PM »
<snip>Racism is overtly intentional<snip>
I really have to disagree with that. Racism is taught, mostly through culture, but these days also by watching TV. How else could you explain this?

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: June 22, 2020, 12:46:49 AM »
Is this same system pumping heat onto the ice?

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: June 20, 2020, 10:13:57 AM »
There is a large area near Svalbard and in the Fram.  This ice is toast.  Guaranteed to vanish regardless of the sun and temps because its going into the Atlantic.

Atlantic is also going to look like shit before long. Big injection of warmth, Kara temps going up in 24 hours + winds are going to toast that block of ice, severnaya crack getting wedged open. Mosaic team likely going to be sitting in melt ponds. Atlantic CAB could see melt ponds too

I do feel we need some perspective in posts sometimes. "big injection of warmth" - I don't see that, yes there is a southerly flow but it's quite light and we are hardly talking about Siberian heat here, it's a bog standard set up really and one that favours the ice because of the lack of fram export.

I feel unless we get very strong southerlies hitting that area, I expect that ice around Svalbard to last most of the melt season like last year but then potentially start to retreat northwards as it did then as SSTS and winds take over the ice.

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: June 11, 2020, 10:48:17 AM »
The Minneapolis Flower Girl

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: June 09, 2020, 11:48:15 AM »
I didn't snip because i was hoping this discussion would die on its own.

It's dying now.

The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: June 08, 2020, 04:50:34 AM »
Thank you Phoenix for putting me in my place.

I did not realize that you had the superior intellect of Albert Einstein.

I will take my mediocre mind to my closet now and go sulk.

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: June 03, 2020, 12:12:00 AM »
Alexander555, you haven't said one intelligent or wise thing in this thread. With such a low score, it may be better to just be silent.

Consequences / Re: Hurricane Season 2020
« on: June 02, 2020, 11:51:30 PM »
That cone is within sharpie distance of Alabama!

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: June 02, 2020, 10:43:15 AM »
This is what Antifa terror looks like!

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: May 31, 2020, 01:10:15 PM »

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: May 31, 2020, 12:35:37 PM »

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2020 melting season
« on: May 30, 2020, 05:19:30 PM »
"AMSR2" the hard edge, north of 85o, to the right of the area is almost directly above Gakkel ridge and looking close up on the 28th there are signs of vortices aligned with it towards Laptev. I suspect internal wave action is breaking through to the surface between Gakkel and Lomonosov supressed by the change of depth influx from St. Anna/Voronin troughs on the Nansen side.
 My take is that there are sufficient openings occuring to allow sublimation of sea spray freeing salt to first melt the ice then deep freeze it again, except that the process seems to be repeating it would rapidly vanish as usual.

The politics / Re: World War Trump
« on: May 29, 2020, 09:42:29 PM »
I don't know what you mean, FG.

This is just another 10 minutes of Trump talking bullshit. It's boring, cringy, and listening to him makes me sick.

The rest / Re: George Floyd murder and blowback
« on: May 29, 2020, 06:33:27 AM »
Yup, just down the street from where I live, the people have reversed the usual flow of violence--top to bottom--to the opposite direction.

Still just 'pawns in their game,' but not something that happens every day in America or the world.
Stay safe mate! It's not looking good there... This could easily escalate into something bigger if Trump thinks it would benefit him. And who doubts he's not already thinking about using this to create even more division? It wouldn't be hard with all that unemployment and right wing nutcases with guns for this to exploded nationwide...

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