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Adler at NYT: Populists are not the ones retreating from democracy, but the centrists are

a) most skeptical of democracy
b) least likely to support free anf fair elections
c) least likely to support liberal institutions
d) more supportive of authoritarians than the far left worlwide, but he finds that "In the United States, centrists’ support for a strongman-type leader far surpasses that of the right and the left."

I remarked elsewhere that corporate dems and corporate repubs were allying. That's because they are more like each other.


Taibbi at rollingstone with a bit of history: of neocons and corporate dems

"Because they started this Middle East disaster on a lie and even bragged about doing so — “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality” — they undermined faith in a smorgasbord of American institutions, from the news media to the presidency to the intelligence community to their own party."

"longtime Democratic Party advisers are once again triangulating against their party’s own progressive wing, which was the core strategy of the original “Third Way” Democrats in the early Nineties. Party leaders now want to kick out populist, antiwar liberals in the same way Frum once wanted to excommunicate antiwar conservatives."

"Glenn Greenwald noted in the Intercept last year, the “most extreme and discredited neocons” began uniting with Democrats “long before the ascension of Donald Trump.” "

Taibbi quotes Heilbrun from 2014: “Even as they castigate Mr. Obama, the neocons may be preparing a more brazen feat: aligning themselves with Hillary Rodham Clinton and her nascent presidential campaign, in a bid to return to the driver’s seat of American foreign policy.”

Robert Kagan talked about a union with Democrats, hoping to replace the term “neoconservative” with the less-infamous-sounding “liberal interventionist.”

"The union achieved formal expression in 2016 with groups like the Alliance for Securing Democracy, which is backed by neocons like Kristol and Jamie Fly as well as former Joe Biden and Clinton campaign security adviser Jake Sullivan."

"The neocons are trying to create with Democrats a true political movement of shared goals and common adversaries. Apart from “liberal interventionism,” they’re emphasizing stridently anti-populist leanings "

"Just don’t be surprised if “liberal interventionists” are sitting in the White House once Trump leaves the scene. These are determined revolutionaries who’ve been scheming for years to throw a saddle on the Democratic Party after decades in bed with Republicans. Sadly, they have willing partners over there."

Read the whole thing:


Policy and solutions / Re: Batteries: Today's Energy Solution
« on: January 16, 2019, 09:30:22 PM »
Peakers, storage and batteries: duration matters

"I can beat a gas peaker anywhere in the country today with a solar-plus-storage power plant,"

" Hohenstein advocated a "duration portfolio" approach that uses energy storage to shave peak load. "

"When solar penetration is lower than about 11%, the potential of four-hour storage is lower than it would be with zero solar deployment because solar penetration of 11% or less flattens the load curve. Above 11% penetration, however, NREL found that solar power creates a "peakier" load curve that increases the potential of four-hour storage."

"the cost of energy storage is highly dependent on the number of hours of duration needed."


Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: January 16, 2019, 09:22:19 PM »
Former head regulator for US nukes turns apostate: " nuclear power is more hazardous than it is worth "

"Because the industry relies too much on controlling its own regulation, the continued use of nuclear power will lead to catastrophe"

Regulatory capture. It's the new black.


The rest / Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« on: January 16, 2019, 10:24:13 AM »
Memo justifying half a million deaths: Amanpour's husband James Rubin making the case for gutting Syria

"Overthrowing Assad would be nothing less than “transformative,”  "

"Iran would be strategically isolated ... The resulting regime in Syria will see the United States as a friend, not an enemy. ... For Israel, the rationale for a bolt from the blue attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would be eased ... "

And a much more thoughtful article by Glass in Harper's, tho he does try to absolve the best and brightest in the Obama czarship:

"In fact, there was no strategy. "

" ... they wanted to do the right thing. In Rhodes’s case, anything. “Even though I had misgivings about our Syria policy,” he wrote, “I was glad we were doing something.” "

"on the assumption that “this guy [Assad] is toast"

"Lavrov also warned Clinton that removing Assad would lead to chaos and jihadism. “They had a fair point in saying we didn’t have a plan for Syria if we got rid of Assad,” Gordon admitted. “And, to be honest, I don’t think we were ever in a position to convincingly say, ‘No, no, no, if Assad falls, it won’t be like Iraq or Afghanistan.’ ” "

"General Dempsey urged Obama to act: “Up to this point, he had argued that Syria was a slippery slope where there was little chance of success. Now he said that something needed to be done even if we didn’t know what would happen after we took action.”  "

"There was no policy. They were making it up as they went along."

" ‘Tell me how this ends.’ No one could answer with confidence that we would not wind up on a slippery slope, getting in deeper and deeper than we intended. "

"The compromise between direct military involvement and staying out was the route taken by many presidents before Obama: a covert operation to raise an insurgent army and train it in nearby countries; provide weapons, sustenance, and communications; and oversee the military campaign. It was high-risk for the locals and casualty-­free for the Americans."

" It was a recipe for failure as much as for carnage."

confirms Hersh's ratline report: "A major source of weapons for the Syrian opposition was Libya ... supply chain became public after the September 11 murder of US ambassador Christopher Stevens in the Benghazi compound ... "

" the program was benefiting religious fanatics more than any moderate, secular oppositionists."

"A state of lunacy was reached when the respective insurgent bands of the CIA’s covert and the Defense Department’s overt programs turned their American weapons on each other. "

“No one was sure it would work, but we had to do something.”

"The result of US meddling in Syria was failure on all counts ... Syrian conspiracy theorists claim the US goal was to destroy Syria, as it did Iraq, to protect Israel. Only if that were true could the United States be said to have achieved any objective."

"Trump canceled Obama’s Title 50 program that armed Syrian oppositionists in July 2017."

" I think the original sin is getting on board for supporting an armed opposition that had little prospect of actually bringing about a political transition in a more stable Syria."

 “Once we topple the regime, are the stable moderates going to come to power and govern Syria? I don’t think so. And then you’ve just got a different form of chaos that we’re responsible for.”

"Obama’s foreign policy team had advanced degrees from Harvard, Yale, and Georgetown, as well as Rhodes scholarships, and better credentials than most Fortune 500 boards, university faculties, and think tanks. They were “the best and the brightest” of our time" ... they go on to think tanks and academe to await the call to serve again."

Read the whole thing:

I wouldn't trust those "best and brightest" to organize a beer bash in a brewery.


The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: January 16, 2019, 07:18:08 AM »
I do wish the larger media outlets would do such detail work. Applebaum on Steele dossier and everyone who touched it

Comments have many links also.


Re:  vast bulk of support for keeping troops there comes from Democratic Party voters

I think i posted about it on another thread. It is true, War is popular on the coasts. Much less so in the heartlands, even in those little towns with banners on the lamp posts extolling many who served and many who died in wars for empire. A lot of the population is ex-military, VA been screwing em for years but still better than teachers and coal miners.  They know their kids keep signing up for lack of hope, the jobs are gone, even the land is dying from corn soy rotation and corporate leased pig/chicken/beef concentration camp operations.

Empire is expensive. In blood and gold, certainly, but much more so in lives and hopes.


The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: January 15, 2019, 08:35:01 AM »
On another thread Neven stated:

"I would kindly ask you to go find some other place to do your thing. I think it would be better for you, and it would definitely be a lot better for me, because it's wearing me out and I don't want to quit this project just yet.

Facebook, Google, YouTube, Twitter, the mainstream media, Corporate Leftists around the world, and even rehabilitated neocons, they're all with you to make things reality."

Whereupon some pearl clutching ensued, I gather, tho i missed most of it being sheltered by killfile.

Please guys and gals and those of other genders:

This is Neven's house. He has stated repeatedly that evidence based argument on the science threads are open to all, and he has acted in accordance. He has also repeatedly stated that he will moderate social/political threads, and he has done so. Apparently that annoys some who imagine this forum is their pulpit.

It is not. Start you own blog if you wanna post without moderation. Or find a forum on goofacetwit more to your taste. Stop bitching at Neven.

That's like going into a party and repeatedly pissing on the carpet after your host has asked you multiple times to quit, and then screaming at him for not letting you continue.


The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: January 15, 2019, 08:11:36 AM »
Re: people in the black lives matter or environmental movement are all being brainwashed by Putin?

The attack is a little bit, but not much, subtler than that. The argument is that evil is dominant and the populists must understand this, compromise with evil to attain some, limited, carefully chosen, moderate goals. Never mind that the reason evil is dominant is precisely that attitude.

Only if you are so far deluded as to not understand the necessity of compromise, in all its meanings and implications, why then, you must be a wild haired revolutionary and probably in the employ of sinister Russian machination.

See, it's easy when you understand all this. Goofacetwit all say so. Must be true, right ?

And then we have some who say, screw all those thieves, torturers, usurers, and thugs: Take it all down.  And who can blame them. O, wait, I forgot, I just described those who do.


It strikes me that while corporate democrats and corporate republicans bemoan convergence of rightists and leftists on populist rebellion, they elide convergence of corporate republicans and corporate democrats for corporate dominion.

I propose new parties: Populists and Corporates

PS: i note that Commodus, now known as the horrible, had the temerity to transpose the motto into Populus Senatusque Romanus. And he taxed the senators to pay off the populace. So he was assassinated. Mmmm ...


That Rignot latest table 1 includes decadal glacier discharge. I note that apart from the two biggies, that all "the glaciers next door" as a recent paper called them, Haynes, Crosson, Dotson, Getz are increasing discharge, to me clear signs of hot water lapping at their foundations.

6 yr doubling for WAIS mass waste, we will have half inch a year of SLR from WAIS alone by 2050.

A couple years ago I seem to recall either Joughin or Rignot remarking that mass waste models for WAIS blow up once you get to a few mm/yr SLR. Lets hope they got better.


The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: January 15, 2019, 02:25:07 AM »
Sacrifice zones in the very heart of late stage capitalism: NYC public housing "gone without heat for a decade."

"legal requirements that landlords provide heat and hot water in private residences do not extended to city owned housing."

" lost heat and hot water ... lead paint, leaks, mold, broken elevators, rat and roach infestations"

"the city had suspended lead paint inspection, falsifying compliance reports and failing to notify tenants of the toxic contamination in their homes, putting thousands of children at risk of poisoning. De Blasio was informed of the falsification but suppressed the information for one year while he ran for re-election"

"I have one heater, but the Con Edison bill—I can’t afford it. And we need to use the oven for more heat and that gas costs too much money too. And yes, it is dangerous. We use the oven to heat. We know it’s dangerous but we have to do it. I hate it."

Fuck the poor. They don't deserve to stay warm. They don't like it, they can go live in the Obamavilles under the freeway ramps.


The rest / Re: Political theatre/wrestling
« on: January 15, 2019, 01:43:59 AM »
Hoover would chortle and rub his hands with glee. Good times are back ! New cold war, politically motivated FBI.


The paper is open access. Nice work, has detail for every basin. I note that WAIS went from 56GT/y in 1999-2009 to 160 GT/yr in 2009-2017. Thats a tripling in 9 years, call it a doubling in 6. Not reassuring.


Antarctica / Re: What's new in Antarctica ?
« on: January 15, 2019, 01:20:48 AM »
The paper referred to in the Post article is open access.



The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: January 13, 2019, 11:09:27 PM »
Russia continues dollar dump: moves deeper into yuan and euro


Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: January 13, 2019, 10:20:16 AM »
MMT expounded by Lesnick: Money is no object

"Today, after four hours of effort, a typical worker has produced enough value to cover her own salary. The rest of the day the worker produces wealth that he or she never sees. The capitalists keep this surplus and call it profit."

"Ever since humans could produce more in a day than they could consume, our history can be understood as little more than the struggle over who controls the monumental surplus wealth produced by the 99%."

"Government spending has to precede any tax collection"

"This is exactly how our military is funded. Though it benefits primarily the military-industrial complex and the top 1%, the military budget is increased every year without raising any new taxes to cover it. They just print more money. "

"Franklin Delano Roosevelt understood all of this. When his administration passed the original Social Security legislation, it included a new payroll tax – a paycheck deduction working people are all too familiar with today."

FDR: "We put those pay roll contributions there so as to give the contributors a legal, moral, and political right to collect their pensions and their unemployment benefits. With those taxes in there, no damn politician can ever scrap my social security program. Those taxes aren’t a matter of economics, they’re straight politics."

Ruml (NYFRB): " The public purpose which is served should never be obscured in a tax program under the mask of raising revenue."

"The real limiting factors are labor and natural resources. "

"unemployment is  completely unnecessary. "

"What if too many dollars are added to the economy despite the best oversight and policy intentions? Simple. Extract some money from the economy with taxes. But not just any taxes. As we have seen, the only just taxes are those that reinforce worthy political policy, such as taxing the wealthiest to reduce income inequality."

"Elaborate means are used today to make it appear that the government must rely on funding from outside sources rather than simply printing its own money. Our government has outsourced this crucial function to the Federal Reserve. Created in 1913, ostensibly to rationalize currency nationally, the Federal Reserve is a gift to the big banks and the richest of the rich. While the U.S. government could generate interest-free money whenever it wants, the oligarchs controlling our government have instead privatized this function, handing it off to a consortium of for-profit banks. These banks add money to the economy by issuing loans, and then charge fees and interest to the government. It’s a classic sinecure and wealth transfer scheme. The effortless task of adding numbers to a ledger to create money has been handed off to powerbrokers in the private sector. This enriches the powerful at the expense of the public, with no benefit to the public for the expense incurred. "

Read the whole thing:


Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: January 13, 2019, 09:54:19 AM »
Re: the way we spend our money is the only power we have left

That is a powerful action, but it is framed in the context of markets and capitalism. What we see is a rejection of markets and capitalism as unquestioned gods. And that is even more powerful.


Re: "Or is this hypothesis too farfetched?"

Can you put some numbers on the coupling between spin axis change and convection ? And then convection change and magnetic pole wander ?

 I have thought about this and i cannot.  This seems very difficult since mantle convection is very poorly understood ...


Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: January 12, 2019, 10:29:59 PM »
Meyer interviews Blyth on the crisis of globalized capitalism:

"you’ve got a very, very strange world that we haven’t experienced before. One in which you’re going to have [structurally] low interest rates because there’s no inflation to combat. Then you’ve got a world in which labour markets [can have] full employment but it does nothing for wages, which means sustaining and perhaps making worse the inequalities that are already there. Then in product markets you have a winner-takes-all dynamic, whereby quasi-monopolists get monopoly rents and everybody else [gets to return to perfect] competition."

"what we’ve run across the world during the globalisation era is a kind of meritocracy. A meritocracy is people like you and people like me, and people who are slightly different from us but nonetheless went to the same universities and studied the same courses. We get to run everything and we become the technocratic class. The technocratic class really has nothing to do with the rest of society. We send our kids to the same schools. We read the same newspapers. We have the same social habits. We’re a kind of transnational class. I was part of this. I saw it emerging."

"Now, you’ve got everybody else who lives a very different life, where wages aren’t rising. The real-term costs are going up. The politicians are telling them ‘There’s no inflation’ but it seems that the cost of everything nonetheless is going up for them in real terms. And there’s a disconnect between the two."

"The first thing neoliberalism did, in a sense, was to globalise labour markets and thereby render labour’s ability to command its share of national income obsolete."

"you’ve destroyed the labour-market cartels. You’ve destroyed the product-market cartels. You’ve globalised everything. What’s the point of the existing parties? They don’t really have one. They were there to stabilise structures that no longer exist. Which is why they’re strangely clueless about what’s going on."

"what people are crying out for is a vision, a reason to believe in something."

"What they actually want is someone to explain to them why, if global warming is so important, they have to pay through their wallets, through a diesel tax, when people that own yachts seem to get off scot-free. What they need is somebody to explain to them why it is that inequality has got so out of whack and our politics is run by the very people who are sitting at the top of the pile pulling the strings of the politicians. They’re not stupid. We think they’re reading ‘fake news’. They’re not. They’re just looking for an alternative account, because they don’t believe a word that comes out of our mouths anymore."

"what populism has going for it is the notion of sovereignty."

"The populists come to power in Italy ... So you’ve now got people in charge who said: ‘Screw them all. We will change everything.’ And they’re not going to change anything. What does that do to democracy and people’s faith in democracy?"

"You will have more populism. More collapse of the centre-left going on, because it won’t be able to reconfigure itself in any important way."

"More of these people will get into power and they will fail. And I really worry about that, because when they fail we could say: ‘Well, good, because they’re all idiots and they’ve got stupid policies.’ Yes, but what does that do to the public’s faith in democracy? Because they’re basically saying: ‘You can vote for the radical alternatives and you still don’t get to change anything.’ "

"if you’re waiting for a bunch of superannuated, septuagenarian social democrats to save your arse start looking elsewhere."

Read the whole thing:


The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: January 12, 2019, 12:21:46 AM »
Tucker Carlson on fire:

"What you’re watching is entire populations revolting against leaders who refuse to improve their lives."

"At some point, Donald Trump will be gone. The rest of us will be gone, too. The country will remain. What kind of country will be it be then? "

"Anyone who thinks the health of a nation can be summed up in GDP is an idiot."

"But our leaders don’t care. We are ruled by mercenaries who feel no long-term obligation to the people they rule ... They’re just passing through. They have no skin in this game, and it shows. They can’t solve our problems. They don’t even bother to understand our problems."

"One of the biggest lies our leaders tell us that you can separate economics from everything else that matters."

" In many ways, rural America now looks a lot like Detroit."

"Rich people are happy to fight malaria in Congo. But working to raise men’s wages in Dayton or Detroit? That’s crazy."

" Not all commerce is good. Why is it defensible to loan people money they can’t possibly repay? Or charge them interest that impoverishes them?"

Praise from quarters as disparate as vox and american conservative:

Coaston at vox: "The monologue was stunning in itself, an incredible moment ..."

Drehrer at americanconservative: "A man or woman who can talk like that with conviction could become president. "

Some are not happy: French at the national review clutches his pearls warning of populism arising from victimhood :

And Jing at the federalist eviscerates French and discusses the ideal vs the real USA:

"French’s column was well thought-out, principled, and sincere. However, it also lacked a connection with reality. "

"French is, by all accounts, an intelligent and decent person who thinks he lives in a Horatio Alger book. In his essay, French delivers a paean to America, “a flawed society that still grants its citizens access to tremendous opportunity.” "

"Problem is, that America is vanishing"

" elite Americans only live near each other in Super ZIPs, only marry each other (as described above), and thus only listen to each other. There is only one voice in DC beltway conservatism—not that of most Americans."

"Our society is less French’s America, the idea, and more Frantz Fanon’s “Wretched of the Earth” (involving a very different French). The lowest are stripped of even social dignity and deemed unworthy of life. In Real America, wages are stagnant, life expectancy is crashing, people are fleeing the workforce, families are crumbling, and trust in the institutions on top are at all time-lows. "


The rest / Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« on: January 11, 2019, 09:24:33 PM »
Democrats for War:

" what is remarkable about the new polling data on Syria is that the vast bulk of support for keeping troops there comes from Democratic Party voters, while Republicans and independents overwhelming favor their removal. "


Re: Polar wander, spin and magnetic

There is not yet a compelling theory for the magnetic field or magnetic polar wander. There is almost certainly a coupling between the location of the spin axis and the magnetic poles, but the nature of this coupling is not understood, probably because the nature of the magnetic field is not well understood. There is a Nobel waiting for anyone who comes up with answers.


The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 11, 2019, 10:26:15 AM »
Re: If this resolves in the wrong way it'll be fun to ask any citizens of the country:"how's life behind the wall?"

Some tell me that the USA went down the "wrong" path after the 2001 attacks. Sometimes I gently remind them of the (late) William Blum's catalogue.

I think the nation has never come to terms with the two great sins of its founding, genocide and slavery. But as an Empire, these themes resound in its colonies, wars, culture, trade, diplomacy ...

Trump is a symptom of late stage Empire. Those are not necessarily fun to live in.


From the "can't make this up" department: markos scams donors for US$3.33/rose, gives Pelosi 25000 roses

Those boots had better taste good.


Permafrost / Re: Arctic Methane Release
« on: January 11, 2019, 12:34:12 AM »
Re: whether or not this prediction could actually be true



Consequences / Re: Places becoming less livable
« on: January 10, 2019, 10:39:04 PM »
Miami in a world of shit: widespread septic tank failure

"  By 2040, 64 percent of county septic tanks (more than 67,000) could have issues every year "


The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: January 10, 2019, 09:50:26 PM »
Rich forever: rich families stay rich for centuries

"the richest families in Florence 600 years ago remain the same now."

" a family’s status in England can persist for more than eight centuries"


Interesting paper at cryosphere-discuss tying recent retreat to warming waters in the fjord. Warns that grounding line is about to retreat over a big hole. "Runaway retreat" is the term used.

Open access, read all about it:


The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: January 10, 2019, 05:59:00 AM »
security firm accused by FBI of spying actually helped FBI catch a spy in NSA: Kaspersky turned in Martin to FBI

Those damn Russians !


The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: January 09, 2019, 08:18:51 AM »

The rest / Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« on: January 09, 2019, 06:20:30 AM »
Nick Turse at commondreams: Pentagon a little coy about revealing number of foreign bases

And troop numbers. And number of countries undergoing liberation.

C'mon, Pentagon. We know you're there. Your opposition knows you're there. We taxpayers employ you, how come you don't tell us ?

O silly me. We just pay you, but you don't answer to us. Just the oligarchs.

This kinda thing makes me wanna go full Amish.


Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: January 09, 2019, 01:48:40 AM »
Big arrays of chargers at charging stations are the perfect spot to put a couple dozen of those cargo containers with vanadium redox batteries. They already have big transmission and the chargers need surge capacity. Rest of the time the big batteries can make money with grid services, selling at peak and buying at lows.


Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: January 08, 2019, 12:27:54 AM »
Re: making cars locally

zoomed past a Honda plant today thats been making cars in ohio since early 80s ... toyota has been doin the same

in the reagan years, during the anti japanese sentiment,  both those companies had paperwork ready to turn into US corps in twenty four hours. I happened to know about it since i had a lawyer friend who drew up some of the filings necessary.


Policy and solutions / Re: Trains, Trams, Subways and Buses
« on: January 08, 2019, 12:18:47 AM »
Does anyone know what the "new European" approach is to fixing that tunnel ? (that's just one, there are more)
I know they got to rip out and replace all electric, but i am sure there is structural damage. I been on that line and the walls of the tunnels looks fairly sad to me. They werent anything to write home about even b4 Sandy, but since then i notice marked deterioration.


The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: January 07, 2019, 10:40:35 PM »
Hedges at truthdig on " the start of the 2020 election circus. "

"The vaunted new populist members of Congress will be no more than window dressing, trotted out, like Sanders, to trick voters into thinking the Democratic Party is capable of reform."

Quotes Wolin: "The amount of corruption that regularly takes place before elections means that corruption is not an anomaly but an essential element in the functioning of managed democracy. "

On Sanders:  "Clinton and Chuck Schumer’s barking seal."

"The differences between the right-wing media and the liberal media are minuscule. "

Quotes Taibbi: "Elections are about a lot of things, but at the highest level, they’re about money ... The Republicans give them everything that they want, while the Democrats only give them mostly everything. "

"The Republican strategy of playing to the lowest common denominator ensured that eventually the useful idiots would take over and elect one of their own, in Donald Trump. Trump ... like tens of millions of other Americans, believes anything he sees on television. He does not read. He is consumed by vanity and the cult of the self. He is a conspiracy theorist. He blames America’s complex social and economic ills on scapegoats such as Mexican immigrants and Muslims, and of course the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party, in turn, blames Trump’s election on Russia and former FBI Director James Comey. It is the theater of the absurd."

"The circus, with its freaks, con artists and clowns, is open for business."

Gee, Chris sounds mad. I think he's seen this circus before. But then, haven't we all ?


Consequences / Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« on: January 07, 2019, 10:22:12 PM »
More Guantanamo blues:

" military commissions system is a kangaroo court designed to cover-up CIA torture "

" “forever prisoners,” 26 are specifically held in indefinite detention without charge or trial. "

" too difficult to prosecute, because of inadmissible and often torture-obtained evidence, and too dangerous to release. However, recidivism for former Guantánamo prisoners is low — 4.6 percent. "

" Once you torture someone, it is hard to un-torture them. "

" classifying defendants’ thoughts and memories of the torture they experienced as “state secrets.” "

Kafka could have written this. And I am surprised at only five in a hundred recidivism rate. If I'd been tortured like those guys, I'd be in a throat-slitting kinda mood ...

Read the whole thing, if you have the stomach:


The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: January 07, 2019, 09:21:37 PM »
(MS)NBC jumps shark again : Putin's cricket army in Cuba

"The villain behind the noises is the male indies short-tailed cricket"

"That’s how the U.S. media functions: sensationalistic stories produce massive benefits, while there are zero consequences, or even an obligation to acknowledge error, when they turn out to be doubtful of even false."

An related, from America's Finest News Source: On admitting error, and why the media can't

"Life is a whole lot better when you tell yourself that nothing—nothing at all—is your fault. Now, does that make me perfect? Yes, I believe so."


CFPB was Warren's greatest hit, she done good there in my book. Bankers hate her. She ain't perfect on war,  but she'll do for now to force the democratic party leftward.

We probably should discuss presidential candidacies on another thread. This one is for democrats sucking on corporate teats.


The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: January 07, 2019, 02:13:05 AM »
Watch out Canada: might need a wall

"while only 11 percent and 10 percent wanted to leave the county under former presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama, respectively, that number surged to 16 percent in 2018 under Trump."

" Most—26 percent, Gallup found—would head north to Canada."


Historical look by Hatrtmann at truthdig at deficit, taxes and spending as political weaponry:

"The GOP is about to kick back into Two Santa Clauses mode and restart the scam they’ve been running since Reagan."

"And there are more than a few “Third Way” Democrats eager to go along with it"

"If ... enough “Third Way” and “New Dem” Democrats get on board with the “deficit hawks” to drag down the New Deal progressives, get ready for the second Trump term."


Atcheson at commondreams on fire: paygo is morally bankrupt

"colossally stupid"

"the real conflict is between having a viable life-sustaining climate, and having one that cannot support civilization as we now know it.  It’s between having a health care system that delivers health to the people, not wealth to the pharmaceutical corporations and the health insurance industry. It's between developing an economy that benefits us all, versus one that exclusively benefits the top 1 percent."

" Pelosi already sabotaged the climate effort by setting up a weak sister select committee with little authority and even less power."

"these investments would pay for themselves many times over, but pay-go—with its myopic focus on the short term—obscures that fact."

"Doing the Republican’s sabotage for them"

Read the whole thing:


This might go on the "Que Se Ficieron ?" thread, but i post here: Corporate Dem cashes in


Re:  the $4T needed to be issued to avoid a second Great Depression.  Where the money went was not just.

That is your claim. Mine, and that of several others such as Hudson and Black is  is that the 4TUS$ was to save the banks, not the economy, and that the claim above is propaganda from the oligarchs.


Policy and solutions / Re: Coal
« on: January 06, 2019, 09:57:40 PM »
People still have coal heat in Appalachia, i know of a few towns where its  still almost all coal.


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