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The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: July 15, 2019, 06:09:25 PM »

I think the human being is maladaptive. I don't know if it's an intrinsic condition or we have acquired it, but at this point it is moot. Nowhere is this more evident than someone insisting on preserving the economy at the expense of the planet. The fact that politicians get together regularly, with the intention of negotiating with physics just blows my mind.


Or, how some captains of industry seem to think going to Mars is a better option than saving Earth. Really funny if you think about it as an engineering problem. Mmm... what's easier, terraforming Mars of terrakeeping Earth?

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: July 15, 2019, 05:53:21 PM »
Your response actually makes me want to vote for Trump more. Isn't that weird?

I am not going to quote everything. Just let me state a few obvious things:

Trump pulled out of the Paris agreement. Trump appointed climate change deniers in crucial posts, who went on deleting climate research etc etc. Trump supports coal and fracking. Oil companies receive more in subsidies (not very right-wing eh.. subsidies) -like 10 times as much- as all government spendiing on education.

Trump detains immigrants at the borders, but does not stop there. He criminalizes and dehumanizes people who are fleeing from hunger and repression.

Trump is racist, sexist. He is a liar. He demonizes free press as well as his political opponents.

This is not about left or right. Trump is a horrible horrible person and an enemy of the people, his own as well as every human on this planet. There is no argument -oh.. the left is so leftist...- that can make supporting this guy a valid option. Unless you really support his sexist, racist, white supremacist, anti-nature, fascist politics.

And BTW, the so called left in the USA is not left at all. We would call them slightly right of center. So read a few books, preferably Hannah Arendt, and follow some news sites outside of the US, preferably BBC, Al-Jazzeera or German, Dutch or Swedish programs, if you are able to understand non-English speaking people (they do exist you know). Try to understand Trumpism is not funny for anybody other than a few white men in America.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: July 15, 2019, 05:38:45 PM »
You are not on the look-out for enemies, but you're very easily provoked. Instead of letting Gumbercules talk for a while (okay, he had a provocative name at first, because not everyone knows the Rick & Morty cartoon) to see where he's coming from exactly, you jump on him. While there are so many interesting things to ask Gumbercules, like for instance, whether he truly believes that Trump is looking out for ordinary Americans, etc.

However, this place has become toxic now.

"For there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so."

Neven, IMHO you are gaslighting lumencraft. His historical perspective is valid. His ethical judgment is valid. It's not about left or right or seeking an enemy, it is about recognizing fascism and its facilitators. Trump is a fascist, no doubt. His supporters are enablers, as is the concentrated wealth enabling a system which brings fascism forward. The fascist formerly known as Adolf mixes valid points with a them versus us attitude and a -as has been noted- white supremacist storyline. It's all too familiar.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: July 12, 2019, 11:00:12 AM »
quote abrADOLPH lincLER:

'Lighten up.

Everything is a fit subject for humor. '

To that I agree (well allmost). But, even jokes needs context. This forum is not a stand up, nor is it a Rick and Morty fanclub. Outside of a joking context your username is plain distasteful. I can joke that killing humans is good for the planet and killing Americans, as they pollute the most, even more so. Al Qaida were the real New Green Deal. I even think this is funny in the context of this forum. But it would be distasteful to wear a shirt proclaiming 'Kill Americans' while walking down the street. I might think it funny, but I guess most people won't grasp the irony intended.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: July 10, 2019, 11:12:41 PM »
I nornally don't post in these garbage/pure politics threads, but I must say Abradolph Lincler's username requires an explanation.
I haven't seen anything racist or fascist in his posts, and Trump voting is not a crime (though imho a mistake). But his username is mighty suspicious. I don't find it funny.

Well, I just figured it's an amalgam of Abraham Lincoln and Adolf Hitler, before reading the Rick and Morty reference. I don't know them. But I do know who Adolf was. Anyone who calls himself a half (ass) Hitler, is out of his mind. Well, voting for Trump proved that as well.

I do not care if his name is taken from a cartoon character. Outside that sketch (and probably within it as well), just not funny.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: July 10, 2019, 11:01:38 PM »
AL, what would it take for you to not vote for Trump again? And does AGW play a role in how you vote?

This was directed to someone else, but as I also voted for Trump, I will give my own answer.
It would take Trump switching to a pro-choice position on abortion, or a candidate on the Dem side who is both for stopping AGW and stopping abortion.

I would like Neven to add a dislike button.

The rest / Re: Cli Fi
« on: July 07, 2019, 04:15:53 PM »

The rest / Cli-fi suggestions
« on: July 07, 2019, 02:30:00 PM »
Hello fellow ASIF posters,

I am looking for new reads which help me imagine the consequences of the oncoming crises. Especially fiction. I have found some books which I thought were good:

The Road - Cormac McCarthy
The Wall - John Lanchester
Water Knife - Paolo Bacigalupi

I know there's even a wiki entry for the genre, but I did not find the list of examples very interesting.

As far as non-fiction goes, I guess I have read quite a few of the most popular books. I did find 'six degrees' by Mark Lynas very helpful in imagining different futures.

Anyway, suggestions for further reading much appreciated.

living at the bottom of a former sea

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 07, 2019, 11:46:32 AM »
@ Gerontocrat. I didn't even consider 2015... wow. I bow to your knowledge.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 07, 2019, 10:32:01 AM »
I believe it has been posted earlier, somewhere else on the forum, but one of the main indicators of the september minimum seems to be the amount of posts on this thread.

In a day we will pass 2018 total posts (70 pages), with still some three months to go, before neven closes the thread.

I am certain of a new minimum.

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 04, 2019, 10:40:43 AM »
That is not a real chart of july 3rd. It would mean a BOE within two weeks.

this is:

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: July 01, 2019, 10:53:04 PM »
<snip, I've moved your comment to the Stupid Questions thread; N.>

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2019 melting season
« on: June 26, 2019, 09:24:51 PM »
Well, let's see what the EURO and the ensemble says Friv. But a dipole now, that would be to deal with a killer...

Allthough I have been lurking for years now, I still haven't figured out what the dreaded Dipole is and why it is so destructive. Must be a scary monster. Maybe I should look somewhere else on the forum, but it might be instructive to other lurkers also. Can somebody please help me out?

<"Stupid" questions thread, but Google is faster; N.>

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