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« on: January 15, 2021, 06:25:47 AM »
Best not begin theological discussions.
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17 % of the new serious cases had their first shot of the Pfizer vaccine. https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-data-shows-50-reduction-in-infections-14-days-after-first-vaccine-shot/Most of these caught it very soon after the first shot, at a time when they were not expected to be protected, so the data doesn't prove much.
Coronavirus: 1 in 11 Britons have developed antibodies against Covid, new estimates show
‘Substantial variation’ in antibody positivity between different regions of England, says Office for National Statistics
One in 11 people in England are estimated to have developed antibodies against Covid-19, according to the latest data.
Figures from the Office for National Statistics suggest that a total of 3,914,000 people, or 8.7 per cent of the population, would have returned a positive result if tested for antibodies in November.
This is up from October’s estimate of 3.1 million, and more than double the government’s own analysis, which says that 1.85 million people have been infected with the virus to date.
The ONS said there was “substantial variation” in antibody positivity between different regions of England.
In London, it is estimated that 12.8 per cent of the city’s population have antibodies in their blood. This figure stands at 10.1 per cent in the North East, 10.9 per cent for the North West and 11.1 per cent for Yorkshire and The Humber - three of the hardest-hit regions in the country.
The South West, in contrast, has an antibody positivity rate of 3.9 per cent, suggesting 179,000 people in the region have been exposed to and recovered from the virus.
Outside of England, the ONS estimated that 326,000 people in Scotland have antibodies (7.3 per cent), 140,000 in Wales (5.5 per cent) and 49,000 in Northern Ireland (3.3 per cent).
It takes between two and three weeks for the body to make enough antibodies to fight the infection but once a person recovers, these ‘search-and-destroy’ proteins remain in the blood at low levels.
Over time, a person’s antibody count can decline to the point that tests no longer detect them - though recent research has shown that immunity against Covid-19 lasts at least eight months, and could offer some form of natural protection for a number of years.
The ONS' estimates are based on thousands of blood tests that are carried out by a trained professional at participants’ homes. The results of this survey are then extrapolated to the nationwide population.
Sample testing is specific people over the age of 16 and excludes those in hospitals, care homes and other institutional settings in England.
The 8.7 per cent estimate is the highest since the ONS study began in May, at the height of the first wave.
Then, 3.3 million people - or one in 14 - are thought to have had coronavirus antibodies.
So, I am taking b.c. brutal but honest advice and getting out of here.I wish you had taken my advice instead, but to each his own.
Indeed, neXtSIM is simply wrong about the Lincoln Sea (as well as along the Ellesmere crack). Compare ice movements shown to what actually took place during the summer as can be seen in various Worldview animations posted on the melting season and other threads. It appears coastal modelling is far from perfect.QuoteAny idea where this black (4m) section in the Lincoln arrived fromneXtSIM models it as there all summer but I think regulars in the Nares thread would probably disagree, as does CS2SMOS, oct22-jan8 (click 5MB)
This reminds me of the old lawyer trick when they have a guilty person and they want to get them off the crime.This.
First you are presented with overwhelming evidence, then the lawyer starts to throw 1001 different unlikely scenarios that could have, maybe, possibly happened to explain alternative reasons for the crime to have happened.
Sure, it is unlikely that an asteroid landed on the house and burnt it down, sure it is more likely to be matches, but you cant 100% rule the asteroid theory out.
Do that often enough from multiple sources, and eventually people will latch onto one of those theories and then they start saying "where there is smoke, there is fire" and then you have a total bullshit line of theories that amount to nothing on their own, becoming something that creates enough doubt in people's minds to think, yeah, it is possible it was a lab escape or experiment or deliberately done..... in spite of the part where the most likely one or two stories are actually correct.
And that is when we get 1001 weird stories having more value than 1 or 2 truths.
It would be nice for someone to produce something that shows us that the lab was responsible for this, rather than a series of unlikely events or blaming gaps in knowledge as the reason they think it was man made.
Oren, IMHO, the claim that SARS-CoV-2 came from a bat on a wet market in Wuhan, is quite extraordinary as well.
I will begin with two recent peer-review studies on this subject.
check 11252Quite funny.
The example I would use is an ice cube.Sea ice is not a cube, it is very thin compared to its length and width, which is why the analogy and the insights derived from it are irrelevant.
Japan to Phase Out Gasoline-Powered Cars, Bucking Toyota ChiefNice headline, but "hybrid gas-electric models" are still gasoline-powered. IMHO Japan's decision is not very impressive.
he 28-frame gif below collects some of the silliness surrounding 'Beaufort Gyre' depictions -- it's whatever and wherever you want it to be!As usual, very interesting discussions in this thread.