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The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: October 11, 2017, 01:37:58 AM »
Well said Neven.
I like my propaganda with a little bernays source.

The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: October 07, 2017, 01:07:04 PM »
"Why ?" Simplest amswer is that Russia does not want Nato any closer to Moscow. They know that some parts of the American elite are planning for a first strike against Russia, the missile sheild [against Iranian threat?] in Poland and Romania is, according to VT useless, it has only been tested against missiles where it has full prior knowledge of the launch point and target and has a little more than a 50% success rate, however the installations can be altered by changing the warhead and programming to offensive weapons. The Russians know this and have, they say, assets in place to cause one of the Canary islands drop into the Atlantic, apparently one of them has a long lateral fault that previously slipped then stopped, is that even possible ? I don't know, but if it did slip it would cause a massive tsunami on the east coast of the US, iirc 300m high moving at 700kph, so i suppose the Russians keep a close eye on whether the american elite is abandoning the east coast in a hurry. Plus they have clearly stated, more than once, that when the missiles are changed there will be no further warnings, whatever this action is of course it will be painted as an act of aggression.
Russia despite the depradations which followed the october revolution, 44,000,000 dead by the 50s, and despite being the most resource rich state in the world, still have an attatchment to the Donbass which was given to Ukraine by Lenin, against the will of the people, just as the Ukrainian Krushchev gave the Crimea to Ukraine, and would welcome them back in a heartbeat, except this would alter the demographics of the Ukraine and make it even more EU friendly. That means they won't sit back whilst the east is ethnically cleansed. Putin mentions it here
On another level there are news sources with which to confirm any set of prejudices, here are some more contrarian [to the msm] links,
choose for yourself what you believe.

Policy and solutions / Re: Low GHG Meat
« on: October 03, 2017, 11:43:58 AM »
I'm surprised no-one has ever tried farming iguanas, they're cold blooded so would put on meat far cheaper than chickens, those from the galapagos even eat seaweed so should be very nutritious, and sometime in the el-nino weather cycle they suffer population collapses so there's a perfect time to remove a few. Not that they're the only vegetarian iguanas.

The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: October 03, 2017, 11:32:33 AM »
If you have a strong currency you'd best distribute the benefits as widely as possible, allowing every citizen an equal access to cheap money/debt, maybe even at 0%, then having a simple unavoidable transaction tax. The alternative is to burden the poor with all the taxes, allow only the elite to access cheap money, let the Government only borrow from them! and end up paying 40% of your tax take to them, 40-odd% interest 'tax' on upstream debt on all purchases, thus massively inflating the daily living costs of the poor and essentially pricing them out of any work.
Simple choice really, either make it as cheap as possible for people to live or price them out of work.[and blame them]

It looks to me pretty much as in Nevens post above, every ice stream is mobile, some more than others, and the exit remains jammed. With things as they are i expect a big surge sometime during the winter, when the fjord has emptied somewhat and tidal waters can reach the calving front, meanwhile until the surrounding meltwater freezes just more of the same.

The rest / Re: Ukraine, Nazis and western support
« on: September 30, 2017, 01:27:12 PM »
How/why did the USSR break up anyway? Certainly not the will of the people.,_1991

The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: September 30, 2017, 12:30:26 PM »
I realised in the mid 90s that not since the 60s had any government done anything to improve things for me or people like me, and haven't voted since, apart from for lost causes like the greens, it's a dog and pony show, part of the entertainment industry. It looks like that in the US too.
With a small elite having access to an endless stream of low interest credit, which never really gets repaid, just rolled over [from even cheaper credit], capitalism died. We now have a new game call it financialism or what have you, but it's all about using the endless credit to secure rentier rights on assets, a game our [UK] pathetic politicians are happy to go along with. Most of the hard won technology developed by working people has been bought up and exported to shift profits and income abroad, improving the income and tax position  for the rentier class, with no thought to the future for those disposessed of their living.
Worse yet with a reduced manufacturing base there are very limited opportunities for the parasitic management class to operate their usual nepotistic placement games, so in the most ridiculoulsly inefficient way they sell off and 'privatise' state assets for 10p in the pound creating endless muddles of management jobs, in one of the most blatant make-work schemes ever devised. Former british rail and the NHS being prime examples.
There can be no happy ending.
It looks much the same, but different, in the US. Same underlying cause
IIRC Putin called meetings with each of the oligarchs and informed them that as long as they stayed within the law, and kept out of politics he would leave them alone. Those who didn't show up for the meets were immediately subject to multiple investigations, they sued for peace, those who didn't abide by the offered terms were dispossessed by all legal means available. How they aquired their fortunes is a whole other story.

Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: September 25, 2017, 10:25:21 PM »
Sun/natural disaster connection from EU, storms earthquakes and their connection to sunspot activity.
I've got a couple of others [older] saved somewhere, if anyones interested.
 Added, I had to take another look myself so, without comment
on this one go to 16:30 to see if your interested

The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: September 16, 2017, 10:57:36 AM »
It didn't help to have $27T of bailouts to bankers when $8T Could have cleared everyones mortgages. skip to 9:45

I was thinking it was displacing the bergs seawards, surprised there's not more calving. Better link

Before i saw these pools, center stage, i'd assumed the north side more or less followed the gradient of the glacier slope, does anyone know if they're tidal?

Looking south there are 5  pieces of the old tongue which eyeballing their debris seem about 200+m thick and look like they're going nowhere, but plenty of the debris looks vulnerable to still warm Atlantic waters and the vagaries of wind and tides, and if it melts or moves away could leave a lot of space for Zachariae to fill.

Arctic Background / Re: Whose data is wrong?
« on: August 29, 2017, 06:02:30 PM »
Plasma cosmology and Electric universe are at least looking for the answers to that, they're both broad 'churches'. Should we discard the eye witness accounts? and settle for the clockwork gravity model, when almost everything we see 'out there' is plasma or plasma interactions?

Arctic Background / Re: Whose data is wrong?
« on: August 29, 2017, 03:18:14 PM »
For anyone who wants an alternatve explanation for the sudden changes at the 'black mat' event you have to start with Velikovsky, you won't find any peer reveiwed papers expanding his thesis as to produce such a paper means instant excommunication from the scientific 'guild'. His extremely radical predictions for Venus, when proved correct, made no difference, a salutory lesson for all. Nevertheless his work, with all it's faults, shows the consistency of the ancients stories and warnings about when the earth stopped spinning, some experiencing prolonged day others night. Every culture that survived those tumultuous times left a record in their stories as a warning for future generations. When you take into account that the ancients generally used the heavens as a kind of memory mansion, around which to weave their stories, with the benefit of knowing where you are on the world being the purpose, like the 'Berber' or native south sea navigators still do, it's unlikely that their observations would be wrong, as impossible as they seem.
Looking into the consequences of such events allows for some quite radical insights into geology and in many ways makes for a more coherent narrative. Most ore bodies and mineral 'pipes' could have been caused by the intense heat generated by the translation of kinetic energy as the earths rotation slowed, [particularly effective with heavy metals] and then shifted to a wider orbit, afterwards of course with all that energy and steam vented from 'the fountains of the deep' lost to space there would follow an extremely radical cooling event as the spin restarted, etc. etc.
That said, those times passed and we now live in a more clockwork age and similar disturbances are almost impossible to concieve, and for our purposes the chief problem is the extent to which the Arctic ocean will expand southwards as all the permafrost melts, will it reach almost down to the Caspian as related by both Celtic and Persian legend? how far on the Canadian side? How will this impact world climate?

I'm wondering how strong the fast ice is, it's certainly looking vulnerable, nothing much changed through the last tidal cycle, except it's 'defences' were swept away. Now with the new moon on monday, and three big tidal cycles up to the equinox things could get very interesting hereabouts.

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: August 18, 2017, 11:19:03 PM »
At last there's some movement, too late to save my low guesses in the polls, but good we dodged the bullet.

The rest / Re: 2017 open thread
« on: August 17, 2017, 12:59:37 PM »
Interesting paper on how the sun works, from an electric universe perspective, may give some insight into variability.

Arctic Background / Re: Bathymetry, Volcanoes and Upwellings
« on: August 17, 2017, 10:26:08 AM »
It's worth keeping an eye on the other end of the basin when the polynya opens, it often thins but not often enough to prove the point. You may find the names on google earth. The effect in the vid is something that can be seen in many places when the tide is on the turn, at dusk you can almost see it as 'water' fish leaping from sat. dish sized bowls. Maybe around 21:00 tonight [forumtime].

Nice clear day yesterday at N79., shows things opening up for tidal action.

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: August 16, 2017, 11:20:01 AM »
Thanks all, the sea emerges from Lincoln at about -1.2C, the air flows from high at about -20C, so presumably dry, more like -5C at sea level, and warms going north. Still at -1C over Lincon and i assume still quite dry, so freezing any melt water there, cementing the otherwise weak looking ice in place blocking export. So just a skin of ice disturbed by currents?,79.43,3000/loc=-61.839,81.900

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: August 16, 2017, 03:14:42 AM »
Sublimation then? Do i believe what i see [albeit from afar] or what i know?

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: August 15, 2017, 06:22:08 PM »
Looks like Nares is icing up, must be the windchill factor. Very cold water emerging from Lincoln could be cementing the ice there?

Arctic Background / Re: Bathymetry, Volcanoes and Upwellings
« on: August 14, 2017, 01:28:40 PM »
I think what's happening is a version of this, in the deep warm layer penetrating upwards, caused by movement of ice into and out of the basin, or the shift of high/low slp over the ridge or on/off shore.
Something similar happens at the far end of the basin but more diffuse given it's less focussed bathymetry, it shows in this gif.[for now]

These maps each have their own advantages but not quite everything you want, the first at least shows the lat/long of the cursor.

The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: August 09, 2017, 01:29:20 PM »

Arctic sea ice / Re: Home brew AMSR2 extent & area calculation
« on: August 09, 2017, 12:40:44 PM »
"But why the alternating stripes?  Cloud effects? "
Possibly wave effects, if the ice is small enough instead of bobbing up and down as the waves pass it 'surfs' forming windrows where it's caught by denser floes.[?]

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: Greenland 2017 melt season
« on: August 08, 2017, 08:24:00 PM »
"The fires we see, I'm sure, are grass/brush tundra fires" I'm not so sure it varies but there's some SO2 in the smoke. So perhaps an outcrop of lignite somewhere in the fire.,70.34,3000/loc=-51.389,67.768

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: Greenland ice sheet retreat
« on: August 06, 2017, 05:39:11 PM »
It has to break out from the three rows of islands which are presently holding back it's melange and calving front, I begin to wonder if it'll have to wait to be weakened by ongoing melting to the north or south, although perhaps one almighty storm could clear it's path. That said it remains my favourite, there are so many ice streams falling into Jakobshavn that the fjord hardly ever clears, and Petermann tapers so much for so long, but maybe VAK is right.

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: August 06, 2017, 03:44:04 PM »
Still fairly clear, if this was caused by northbound currents then by now some sort of equilibrium must have been reached. With the tides peaking tomorrow I'd expect to see the strait much busier this week.

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: August 05, 2017, 01:30:46 PM »

seems to be some sort of hold up, can it simply be the effect of the low to the north and the high in Baffin causing the current to flow north?

Policy and solutions / Re: Concrete - CO2 Villain or Solution?
« on: August 05, 2017, 01:00:51 PM »
This project marks a very significant milestone in engineering – the world’s largest geopolymer concrete project. BWWA was built with approximately 40,000 m3 (100,000 tonnes) of geopolymer concrete making it the largest application of this new class of concrete in the world. The geopolymer concrete developed by the company Wagners, known as Earth Friendly Concrete (EFC), was found to be well suited for this construction method due to its high flexural tensile strength, low shrinkage and workability characteristics. Heavy duty geopolymer concrete, 435 mm thick, used for the turning node, apron and taxiway aircraft pavements, welcomes a heavy 747 cargo for regular air traffic between Toowoomba-Wellcamp BWWA airport and Hong Kong. For technical details read the paper by Glasby et al. (2015), EFC Geopolymer Concrete Aircraft Pavements at Brisbane West Wellcamp Airport, in our Library, Technical paper #23 GP-AIRPORT. Technical Paper on Geopolymer Aircraft Pavement
 They make a clear distinction between geopolymer and alkili activated materials, and for anyone interested in historic building techniques, or new possibilities, valuable insight. I'm not in a position to judge but their approach appears to be far less energy intensive and with a superior product, exploring the use of natural materials to a greater extent.

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: Greenland ice sheet retreat
« on: August 05, 2017, 12:23:36 PM »
"When will AGW accelerate the loss ?"
When the meltwater of the interior gets access to the ocean?

Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: August 05, 2017, 12:03:23 PM »
It does look fungal, have you had a lot of high humidity days or misty mornings? Where I've used bark/woodchips for mulch around blackcurrent bushes the wooden bits develop a similar white mould.
I've had a mouse/shrew family making themselves at home in one of my raised beds, slugs and snails almost gone.

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: Greenland ice sheet retreat
« on: August 03, 2017, 11:08:45 AM »
"As I commented elsewhere the slope of Greenland margin is small and not conducive to rapid runaway collapse than can happen on much steeper mountain glaciers."
“You’re not talking about a glacier that fell off a mountain peak,” says Stephen Evans, a professor of geological engineering at the University of Waterloo. He studied the Kolka site in person soon after the event. “I walked up [the hillside] without breaking a sweat. Six degrees is almost flat for all intents and purposes.”
The EU got interested in the north face of mountains when they began to thaw.

Arctic sea ice / Re: Year-round ice-free Arctic
« on: August 02, 2017, 03:59:43 PM »
For anyone having difficulty imagining year round ice free conditions this won't help much, I read the whole thing [still got the book] years ago after an Indian [Hindu] workmate said that in their histories there was no ice age, and that the arctic previously had had a climate of permanent springtime. So in essence the book says the vedas were written by a people who lived where there were 6 weeks of darkness and very protracted dawns, hardly imaginable for people used to the 12hr day night cycles of India. With so much going on in the world I wouldn't find the time now to read it but it's worth reading the preface to get the measure of the man. 'The Arctic home in the Vedas'

Arctic sea ice / Re: Gulf Stream stall
« on: August 01, 2017, 10:29:44 AM »
I think the basins will continue being topped up by warmer waters from the south as the cooler lighter layers go south, through CAA. The Gulf stream imho is a residual of the tidal cycle which will continue to cycle whatever water is present, whether thats from the Gulf or, seasonally, Arctic waters from Baffin/Greenland.

Arctic sea ice / Re: Home brew AMSR2 extent & area calculation
« on: July 31, 2017, 09:00:11 PM »
"Does anyone know" I suspect the recent high tides accelerated more Atlantic waters into the Arctic, increasing currents, it takes a while for effects to show so there's always other explanations possible. Look at the position of the polynyas and the focal points of the shelves in the area. As long as there's warm water at depth any movement at the surface will do.
added; possibly something like this happening to deeper layer. Skip to 2:30

Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: July 31, 2017, 10:29:49 AM »
Bit of a jam in Lincoln

Just a couple of images north first, with the calving front bottom right, then south, both illustrating the melt surrounding the fjord

edit images redone.

The rest / Re: Travel: Advice/Recommendations for Iceland and London
« on: July 29, 2017, 04:07:18 PM »
In London you could do worse than take one or two of the guided walks around the city, some evening some at the weekend. They're mostly done by enthusiasts with quite a deep knowledge, and they vary from the founding to almost current.

Arctic sea ice / Re: IJIS
« on: July 28, 2017, 09:35:20 PM »
SH click from TT [iirc]

"abrupt isostatic rebound" just to add that when the ice melts here it'll move, much closer to the equator, ditto for greeenland.

Andreas T 'reading back'
 I think Dijmphna sound is a little deeper than the fjord below N79, is it possible bottom melt caused the north end of the 'footprint' to sink raising the ice the sensors are connected to, and redirecting the currents?

Interesting that it all moves in concert, suggests to me that it's driven by escaping melt water, not that tide action can altogether be ruled out.

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: July 25, 2017, 09:36:09 PM »
This is from the 24th to me it suggests a surge of warm water coming out of the arctic at depth, into Petermann fjord, and there being forced to the surface melting and forcing out the seasonal fast ice.

Take a closer look

Antarctica / Re: Rift in Larsen C
« on: July 24, 2017, 07:28:11 PM »
Tor that makes better sense, the tide arrives from the south and given the inertia of this block isn't going to push it north in a hurry, but something has to give so it begins to rotate.

Another clear day on the 18th well worth zooming in and looking around, huge backlog of calved ice to clear, melt ponds/water on and at the periphery of the ice.,B03,B02&maxcc=97&gain=0.5&gamma=1.0&time=2015-01-01|2017-07-19&cloudCorrection=none&atmFilter=ATMCOR&showDates=false

Permafrost / Re: Arctic Methane Release
« on: July 19, 2017, 07:54:26 PM »
"This doesn't bode well for the future."
I've looked for a bedrock map for both continents surrounding the arctic, this is all I've found. Makes me wonder just how far south the ocean will reach. A transect from banks to hudson would be interesting.

" (I don't know about ag and cement.)" cements possible
The geopolymer site is a little treasure trove.

Arctic Background / Re: Importance of waves in the Arctic
« on: July 17, 2017, 10:24:49 AM »
Look above for animation, it seems that the wave complex's peak around the new/full moon dates,[24+9] and melt follows . This may be coincidence/happenstance or may indicate a new fact of life for arctic ice. It's worth taking a look at the other animations too.

Antarctica / Re: Rift in Larsen C
« on: July 15, 2017, 08:11:50 PM »

The dark blue circles are the amphidromic points, around which the tides turn clockwise. I believe they drive the currents, that is the currents are residual persistent flows driven by tidal movements.
Image from

Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: July 13, 2017, 06:06:17 PM »
There was a full moon on sunday, the flow usually builds for 3-4 days so I suspect it's flowing well, below the clouds. Open links and click images to expand [9th] [12th]

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