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The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: Today at 06:21:42 AM »
Milk the poor. Quite vampiric.

"Roughly 70 to 80 percent of global plasma supply is provided by paid donors from the United States, which, unlike the United Kingdom and other developed nations, does not ban the practice of paying donors for their blood. The United States also has fewer restrictions on how often someone can donate plasma, with donors permitted to undergo the process twice a week, every week, all year long."

"plasma donation companies are “surgically placing” donation centers in destitute neighborhoods."

"Significant numbers of donors...would not be able to afford the lifesaving therapies created by their own plasma contributions."

" as little as $30 to $50 for a donation that can be sold for $300 on the wholesale market"

" I’m well aware that I’m getting ripped off for this, but money is money. "

" the simple fact that they’re taking your immune system"


The rest / Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« on: Today at 06:16:14 AM »
Logan at american conservative reviews Desch on the US national security establishment:

"The evidence suggests that foreign policymakers do not seek insight from scholars, but rather support for what they already want to do. As Desch quotes a World War II U.S. Navy anthropologist, “the administrator uses social science the way the drunk uses a lamppost, for support rather than illumination.”  "

“you can find a think tank to buttress any view or position, and then you give it the aura of legitimacy and credibility by referring to their report.”

"It’s like they’re coming in and saying to you, “I’m going to drive my car off a cliff. Should I or should I not wear a seatbelt?” And you say, “I don’t think you should drive your car off the cliff.” And they say, “No, no, that bit’s already been decided—the question is whether to wear a seatbelt.” And you say, “Well, you might as well wear a seatbelt.” And then they say, “We’ve consulted with policy expert Rory Stewart, and he says…” "

" President Barack Obama himself asked the CIA to analyze success in arming insurgencies before making a decision over what to do in Syria. The CIA replied with a study showing that arming and financing insurgencies rarely works. Shortly thereafter, Obama launched a billion-dollar effort to arm and finance insurgents in Syria."


Democrats who wanna keep funding ISIS:

"Every Democrat voted to stop arms sales, except for seven: Sens. Doug Jones, D-Ala., Angus King, I-Maine, Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., Jon Tester, D-Mont., and Mark Warner, D-Va."

"These seven Democrats apparently agree with the overwhelming majority of Republicans that allowing U.S. weapons to end up in the hands of ISIS and al Qaeda is worth whatever security benefit the United States allegedly gets from these exchanges."

My tax dollars going to terrorist and these scum cool with that.


The rest / Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« on: Today at 06:11:16 AM »
My tax dollars at work:

"Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Bahrain have allowed U.S. arms to be funneled to radical Islamist groups"

"Congress knows. But that didn’t stop them Thursday from voting 43-56 to proceed with these arms sales."


The difficulty is that the high melt rate occurs "high melt rates, inconsistent with the preindustrial climate "
(first line, last page)

this is impossible since Amery for example, is still around, didnt melt out in preindustrial ...

I do worry about Amery, tho.


Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: June 15, 2019, 09:29:20 AM »
Perhaps one of these threads

"When will CO2 emissions peak?"


"UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond"

both in the "Policy and solutions" section.


Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: June 15, 2019, 09:24:31 AM »
I do not think Mr. Feldman is trolling. But i do agree that carbon trajectories ought to be discussed elsewhere. Is there a good thread for that, or should somebody start one ?


Developers Corner / Re: Test space
« on: June 15, 2019, 06:04:05 AM »
One possibility for bandwidth might be bittorrent. a lot of unix distributions use it to distribute entire operating systems and applications.


Developers Corner / Re: Test space
« on: June 14, 2019, 09:25:34 AM »
Some people on this forum have access to pretty serious hardware. But diskspace is a big issue. I see archival becoming a problem already, even with mp4 compression.

Bandwidth is quite cheap, at least if we limit to the users of this forum, but that might be an issue if access is made public. coralcache might be a solution for bandwidth.

Anyone know inside contacts at ESA or panagea ? they might be willing to provide public access archival. I shall ask around the US GFDL and NOAA and edu sites where i know some people. Someone might be willing to donate disk at least, if not too much bandwidth.

I know that microsoft, google, and amazon have discounted or free programs for science. But i hate relying on commercial entity. is another possibility.


Developers Corner / Re: Test space
« on: June 14, 2019, 06:54:12 AM »
Re: avi --> mp4

ffmpeg ?


Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: June 13, 2019, 10:56:16 PM »
de Boer argues that capitalism must be dismantled in order to build a welfare state:

"the welfare state they build will be taken apart, brick by brick, as soon as it is put together."

" Either capital will find a way to derive profit from it and in doing so deepen inequality and exploitation, or it will eventually tear it down. And President Bernie Sanders will not be able to do a single fucking thing about it. "


Re:  highly skilled people for the government

We don't have em anyway. What we got are crooks. As Twain pointed out more than a century ago, "There is no native criminal class except Congress." These guys (and gals) are crooks. They betray the electorate immediately after election.

Agreed that it is simple to make bribery illegal. Except you will notice that congress exempted themselves from insider trading laws. Isn't that special.

Least we can do is make electoral office no better paid than median. Mebbe that will get rid of some of the leeches.

They are getting a hundred and seventy four K USD a year. Should be enuf for anybody, especially for a barmaid, even one from NYC.


Policy and solutions / Re: Direct Air Capture (of Carbon Dioxide)
« on: June 12, 2019, 08:04:49 AM »
"No more heating your house"

Hard sell in midwest winter.

"no more ICE use etc."

Another hard sell for communities with no public transport.

"'Just' stop doing it. "

Good luck with that. Even the Amish have the English (non Amish) drive em places.

Out of curiosity,  what about taxes ? I'm paying for the Pentagon burning fuel like there was no tomorrow bombing people. Or have you gone full Amish ? I am considering that.


Consequences / Re: Hurricane Season 2019
« on: June 12, 2019, 07:56:46 AM »
Re: storm surge and precipitation:

"Regarding storm surge, our expectation is that a widespread worsening of total inundation levels during storms is occurring due to the global mean sea level rise associated with anthropogenic warming, assuming all other factors equal, although we note that no TC climate change signal has been convincingly detected in sea level extremes data. To date, there is not convincing evidence of a detectable anthropogenic influence on hurricane precipitation rates, in contrast to the case for extreme precipitation in general, where some anthropogenic influence has been detected."

That last sentence is interesting. I suppose there are not enuf hurricanes to detect change in extreme precip during hurricanes, altho the evidence for extreme precipitation from all sources (non hurricanes included) is much more robust. The effects of extreme precip are also worsening, due to the fact that non permeable surface area keeps going up due to development.

About a decade ago i saw an estimate in Eos that impermeable surface in the USA was around the size of Ohio. On the other hand, zoning laws requiring retention ponds and permeable surface are becoming much more widespread. My builder acquaintances bitch about that all the time, but even they recognize the need. They get flooded out too.  Unfortunately there requirements are changing far too slowly.

Given sea level rise, it is quite obvious that storm surge from landfalling systems is going to get worse and worse, as they state, even tho the number of hurricanes is too low to detect this effect robustly.


Consequences / Re: Hurricane Season 2019
« on: June 12, 2019, 07:07:35 AM »
What strikes me in the data presented is that globally cyclones have no change in maximum intensity thru late 2000s. There is a significant increasing signal in the north atlantic, and perhaps a barely detectable signal in S. Indian.  Marginal decrease in E. Pacific. Agreed that the data needs updated, the grafs in Fig 1f  dont go past late 2000's.

As to more current data, grafs 1g-1j go thru latish 2010s, there is a significant change in latitude of max intensity and a significant decrease in propagation speed. No change in total number/yr or total landfalls.

Another thing that strikes me is that the authors are unwilling to state that there is detectable anthro contribution (to the level of Type 1 error) except for increasing latitude of max intensity. They are willing to state more in the context of Type II error, but feel it necessary to include the caveat "we recognize have substantial potential for being false alarms."


Consequences / Re: Hurricane Season 2019
« on: June 12, 2019, 02:20:11 AM »
Preprint from Knutson et al on tropical cyclone activity and anthro climate change, focussing on twin goals of reducing "Type I errors (i.e., overstating anthropogenic influence or detection)" and reducing " Type II errors (i.e., missing or understating anthropogenic influence or detection)"

It's a nice review article among other things.

"Summary ...

"Using the conventional perspective of avoiding Type I error, the strongest case for a detectable change in TC activity is the observed poleward migration of the latitude of maximum intensity in the northwest Pacific basin, with eight of 11 authors rating the observed change as low-to- medium confidence for detection (with one other author having medium and two other authors having medium-to-high confidence). A slight majority of authors (six of 11) had only low confidence that anthropogenic forcing had contributed to the poleward shift. The majority of the author team also had only low confidence that any other observed TC changes represented either detectable changes or attributable anthropogenic changes. From the perspective of reducing Type II errors, a majority of the author team agreed on a number of more speculative TC detection and/or attribution statements, which we recognize have substantial potential for being false alarms (i.e., overstating anthropogenic influence) but which may be indicators of emerging anthropogenic signals in the data. Most authors agreed that the balance of evidence suggests detectable anthropogenic contributions to:

i) the poleward migration of the latitude of maximum intensity in the western North Pacific;
ii) increased occurrence of extremely severe (post-monsoon season) cyclonic storms in the Arabian Sea;
iii) increased global average intensity of the strongest TCs since early 1980s;
iv) increase in global proportion of TCs reaching Category 4 or 5 intensity in recent decades; and
v) increased frequency of Hurricane Harvey-like extreme precipitation events in the Texas (U.S.) region.

In addition, a majority of authors concluded that the balance of evidence suggested an anthropogenic influence (without detection) on:
vi) the unusually active TC season in the western North Pacific in 2015. Author opinion was divided but a slight majority concluded that:
vii) unusually high TC frequency near Hawaii in 2014 was a case where the balance of evidence suggested an anthropogenic influence (without detection).

Finally, most authors concluded that the balance of evidence suggests:

viii) detectable (but not attributable) decreases in severe landfalling TC frequency in eastern Australia since the late 1800s; and
ix) detectable (but not attributable) decreased global TC translation speeds since 1949."

I attach Fig 1f-Fig 1j

Read the whole thing:

ATTP has some discussion


The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: June 12, 2019, 01:27:25 AM »
Formal request for Assange extradition:


The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: June 12, 2019, 01:26:36 AM »
Drown the poor. They don't deserve dry land to live on.

Or, Bangladesh comes to the USA.

"When rivers flood now in the United States, the first towns to get hit are the unprotected ones right by the river. The last to go, if they flood at all, are the privileged few behind strong levees."

"To prioritize its resources, the Corps uses cost-benefit calculations ... the calculations favor highly valued property over less affluent communities. "

No shit. Colour me unsurprised.

"The process is “always driven by property values ..." "


Wait, what ? Cortez wants a pay raise for Congress ?

"Members have made $174,000 per year since 2009 ..."

The reason for a raise: they are taking too many bribes already.

" avoiding incentives for representatives and senators to accept cash from lobbyists and approve tax cuts for their wealthy donors "

Fuck that noise. They should be making the median wage for people living in DC. And the same options for medical insurance.

Amazing how quickly Cortez got co-opted.


Science / Re: Modelling the Anthropocene
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:54:52 PM »
The thing that struck me about that paper is how far you can get with just a two box ocean model.


Consequences / Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:44:58 PM »
War without end, amen.

"He's been sitting in Guantanamo Bay for 17 years, but the U.S. government has not charged him with any crimes. It doesn't appear to intend to charge him with anything, but it also refuses to release him ... "

"al-Alwi faces the real prospect that he will spend the rest of his life in detention based on his status as an enemy combatant a generation ago"


America's Finest News Source:

" the DNC had gone too far in insisting candidates be able to present a coherent strategy for addressing a single one of the many problems the nation faces"

"party officials confirmed the new debate requirement would not apply to former vice president Joe Biden, who has committed himself to running a policy-free campaign."


Wai, what ? Salon of all outlets putting the knife into Biden ?

" My anxiety soon passed, but not my foreboding. Clinton would go on decrying Trump and offering herself as a seasoned steward of a system without fundamental flaws. Then she would lose."

" Biden is America’s foremost living proponent of bipartisanship. Why anyone still salutes it is a mystery. The reputation of every big bipartisan "achievement" of the last 30 years is in tatters: NAFTA; the mid-'90s crime and welfare bills; the late-'90s Wall Street deregulation; No Child Left Behind; the bankruptcy bill; the Iraq war. Biden was for every single one of them."

"What Clinton and Biden have most in common is a shared faith in the economic consensus of political elites. It’s a bipartisanship rooted not in civility but in the interests of their donors. It is our most insidious form of corruption; it’s why our government stopped acting in the interests of our people, why our people lost faith in our democracy. It’s the main reason Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump."

"In every election the word comes to Democrats from on high: Cancel the debate, circle the wagons, sideline the populists. Most of all, placate the donors. The price we paid for that is President Donald Trump."

The author: " was White House counselor to President Clinton ... "


Well hello there: moderators for DNC debate announced

"Savannah Guthrie, Lester Holt, Chuck Todd, Rachel Maddow and José Diaz-Balart will moderate the debate"


The rest / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:15:58 PM »
Scheer interviews Sjursen at Scheer Intelligence: "blood is very specifically on our hands."

“What I saw happen to the Iraqi people [haunted me more] than what happened to my soldiers,”

" forget about fighting the war poorly; we shouldn’t be fighting this war at all."

"The war in Afghanistan, while fought under different pretenses, was no less brutal or foolish than the Iraq War"

" any chance of victory in Afghanistan was over the minute–and this only took weeks—the minute after we switched from a counterterrorism strategy"

" I’d like to think that I was always bold on active duty, but the reality is that I was censoring myself. "

"my own innocence as someone who was, you know, naive enough to believe not only that the Iraq War might be valuable and necessary, but also that the military was just ultimately a force for good in the world. "

"such a collective, national innocence that borders on insanity"

"I don’t even think we understand the scale of what a disaster we’ve created"

"they all told me that life was better under Saddam. "

"Trump is not such an anomaly. He is a man for his times. "

"the question is not whether we’re an empire; it’s how do you like your imperialism?"

"very little changed on the ground for those of us carrying water for the empire, whether we had George W. Bush or Barack Obama or even Donald Trump."

" many of us, like myself, were naive enough to believe that when a Democrat won—and I liked Obama at the time—that it would change."

"Barack Obama’s surge in Afghanistan was equally as brutal and equally as wasteful as George W. Bush’s ... you can be sure that under Donald Trump, or Hillary Clinton, if she had won, it’ll be largely the same."

Read the whole thing. Sjursen was there.


Consequences / Re: Hurricane Season 2019
« on: June 11, 2019, 02:44:53 AM »
Re: "conflating hurricanes and cyclones"

There are studies that look at hurricanes/cyclones/typhoons in all basins. The advantage to doing so is that there are more of them that hurricanes in the Atlantic alone. But the numbers are still low, and no trend in the total number is evident. So far.  There is some evidence that the intensity of the largest ones is increasing, as is expected from warmer SSTs. The models still have difficulty in getting hurricanes right but perhaps CMIP6 will have better results.


Science / Re: Modelling the Anthropocene
« on: June 11, 2019, 02:28:30 AM »
Realclimate has a post up on the Haustein paper by the authors:


The rest / Re: Political theatre/wrestling
« on: June 11, 2019, 02:26:33 AM »
Was anyone peddling the Russia conspiracy not a spook ? Solomon at the hill:

"hundreds of pages of government documents — which special counsel Robert Mueller possessed since 2018 — describe Kilimnik as a “sensitive” intelligence source for the U.S. State Department ..."

“The FBI assesses” Kilimnik “to have ties to Russian intelligence,” Mueller’s team wrote  ..."

Taibbi on media silence:

"As of June 8th, here’s the list of major news organizations that have followed up on his report:

    The Washington Examiner

    Fox News

That’s it. Nobody else has touched it. "

Taibbi looks at some more spooks:

"nowhere in the report is it disclosed that Sater, as reported by the Intercept, has been a registered FBI informant since 1998"

"California court records show Oknyansky/Greenberg received a series of “significant public benefit” parole visas of varying lengths from the U.S. government between 2008 and 2012. The documents even list the name and phone number of his FBI case officer. "

O what tangled webs we weave, when first we practice to deceive

 -- Walter Scott


Policy and solutions / Re: Coal
« on: June 11, 2019, 01:11:33 AM »

Consequences / Re: Hurricane Season 2019
« on: June 10, 2019, 11:57:06 PM »
The difficulty with hurricane/cyclone numbers is that there are too few of them to give statistically robust results. Right now the consensus seems to be that there will be an increase in intensity, but not necessarily an increase in the number.

As for the models, they do not have the resolution to effectively simulate processes within a hurricane. Some techniques such as downscaling make the attempt, but there are questions as to their effectiveness.

Aside: Accusations of trolling and denial do not advance the discussion. I reply in another thread.,1562.msg204822.html#msg204822


The forum / Re: Forum Decorum
« on: June 10, 2019, 11:56:39 PM »
I have noticed an increase in accusations of posters being deniers, trolls and sock puppets. In some cases, their crimes seem to be not embracing catastrophism, of not lending enough credence to the worst possible outcomes.

This does not help discussion. It is entirely possible that the worst will occur. But it is also entirely possible that it will not, our current state of knowledge does not rule out either case. Especially since so much depends on human action to address climate change or the lack thereof.

Such accusations are counterproductive, at least to convince me of the catastrophist case. Reading such repeated attacks usually leads to the accusers winding up in my killfile.


Glaciers / Re: International project "Ice Memory"
« on: June 10, 2019, 11:26:25 PM »
A lot of WAIS was gone in the Eemian. So it may be that it will be quite difficult to find older ice there.


The rest / Re: Unsorted
« on: June 09, 2019, 09:44:42 AM »
I suggest that rather than learn physics from internet fora, one might want to read textbooks ?  and you will need some mathematics for quantized thinking

If you dont have much math, try Griffiths, or try susskind video. You will need some math for both.

If you have some math at undergrad level, but not much, try Feynman (v. III)

If you have the math, try Dirac, or Landau/Liftschitz or many others. In fact if you have the math, you dont need me to recommend.

Dirac is crystal clear and hard as diamond. But worth it. (as is his book on relativistic quantum field theory)

For more modern approaches to quantum field theory, Streater/Wightman, Itzykson/Zuber, Weinberg, or Bogulibov come to mind. 

But to take a larger view, quantum theory is best understood if you understand classical, pre-quantum theory theory. Goldstein and Landau come to mind there. Or what the hell, even Jackson on classical electrodynamics.

But there is no getting away from the math requirement for any of this.

Once you get thru this, Bohm and hidden variables become more understandable.

I will note from your links that Yablon has been pushing his ideas for a while, but very few accept them. Personally i think that Bohm has much more credibility in the physics community.


The rest / Re: Unsorted
« on: June 09, 2019, 05:10:13 AM »
Mmm. It is well understood that dark adapted human eye can see one or two photons. It is well understood that eardrum can detect vibration amplitude of atomic diameter or less. It is well understood that olfactory sensors can detect a single molecule.

As for tactile sense, I dealt with a tool and die company that employed a blind woman to check surface finish, she could easily tell tenths of micrometer imperfection. But for nanometer and below they still had to use optical interferometry.

But in human sensing, the quantum level phase information is lost. So quantum interference is not detectable by human nervous system.

The article by Bushell and Seaberg reveals a profound misunderstanding of quantum level measurement.

If you wanna go there, i suggest reading Penrose on quantum effects in human brain. He has interesting things to say about microtubules and such; unfortunately no one believes him and he cant offer experimental confirmation ... so sad.


The rest / Re: The problem of social media
« on: June 08, 2019, 11:05:48 PM »
“Where they burn books, they will also ultimately burn people.”  -- Heine

Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: June 07, 2019, 09:55:16 AM »
What Sam said. Hanford (and many other sites) are unmitigated disasters proceeding today.

If you got a nuke dump around, move away if you can. If you dont know if you do have one around, find out pronto.


Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: June 06, 2019, 09:22:12 AM »
There are proposals to burn nuclear waste in specified reactors. Except no one is doing that.

Or vitrify it and bury it ( which sweden is doing.

or just bury it  as in Yucca mountain and Hanford. Yucca turns out to be a boondoggle and Hanford is a disaster.


Arctic sea ice / Re: Sea Ice Melting Affected by Microplastics?
« on: June 06, 2019, 09:15:10 AM »
If you are a glutton for punishment, could try to use the Kramers-Kronig relation to get the absorption from the transmission spectrum. But something tells me there is not enuf detail in the manufacturers specs.


Policy and solutions / Re: If not Capitalism... then What? And, How?
« on: June 05, 2019, 08:42:50 AM »
Township of ferguson might be in endgame of sacrifice zone for late stage capitalism capturing regulators. Their business model was jailing black people and holding em to ransom. That was cool forawhile, till they shot the wrong guy and the underclass found a lawyer. And they hadnt read the fine print on the insurance contract. So sad.

 “If there’s no insurance coverage and there’s a huge judgement, I don’t know how it would pay.”

Well, the usual thing is that the town disincorporates, and city hall and other assets are sold.

I go thru there often off I-70. It was a sacrifice zone forawhile now.


If you want to have a serious exchange with a scientist, I would not recommend twitter.  Use email. For example, Mann's email address is on the penn state web site. And please ask permission before reposting replies on the web. It would help to read his recent papers first as well, so you can address his position.

Twitter is for people who cannot develop an argument or a thesis beyond a couple hundred characters.  It lends itself to epigram and epithet, not science discussion.


America's Finest News Source: Latest "Last Ditch" climate change report

"a last-ditch climate change report issued Tuesday by the U.N."

"a 500-page directory that simply lists the names and addresses of key players in the fossil fuel industry, along with the precise coordinates of several bunkers containing extensive stockpiles of firearms"

"if everyone comes together and does their part, we can make a tremendous difference"


Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: June 03, 2019, 08:50:58 PM »
Re: ohio nuke,coal bill

still has to pass ohio senate ?


Science / Re: Modelling the Anthropocene
« on: June 03, 2019, 06:49:12 AM »
I was unsure if i should post this in the AMOC thread or elsewhere, but i post here:

Haustein et al. find no necessity to invoke AMOC change to explain temperature record over 20th century ... if you put the aerosols in.

"Using a two-box impulse response model, we demonstrate that multidecadal ocean variability was unlikely to be the driver of observed changes in global mean surface temperature (GMST) after 1850 A.D. Instead, virtually all (97-98%) of the global low-frequency variability (>30 years) can be explained by external forcing. "

TCR over the period is 1.57K ...

"our most precise TCR estimate is 1.57K with an associated inter-decile uncertainty range of 0.87-2.27K(10-90th percentiles)."

They can't really pin down ECS.

ENSO isnt too important either except for shorter timescales:

" low-frequency ENSO variability has little bearing on the outcome of our response model results."

Atlantic variability appears to be forced, rather than internal:

"There is room for 1-5 year unforced feedbacks,  but apart from the cooling due to the long-term decline in AMOC strength (Fig. 8m), high- and low-frequency AMV pattern appear to be externally forced according to our response model results."

AMV is atlantic multidecadal variation.

"our analysis strongly suggests that the impact of internally generated NA ocean dynamics on Global, NHem and Land temperatures is rather limited"

" changes to the mean state are dominated by radiative forcings on longer timescales and ENSO-related variability on shorter timescales"

Amazing what you can do with a simplish two box model.

doi: 10.1175/JCLI-D-18-0555.1

" internal variability could explain only 7% of the record. Instead, soot from industry drove early 20th century warming as it drifted into the Arctic, darkening snow and absorbing sunlight. After World War II, light-reflecting sulfate haze from power plants increased, holding off potential warming from rising greenhouse gases. Then, pollution controls arrived in the 1970s, cutting haze and allowing warming to speed ahead."

"a future ocean cooling is unlikely to buy society time to address global warming. But the demise of the AMO also might make it easier to predict what is in store. “All we're going to get in the future,” Haustein says, “is what we do.” "


The rest / Re: Economic Inequality
« on: June 03, 2019, 05:59:47 AM »
Detailed analysis at zipcode level for the USA from St. Louis Fed of economic recovery or lack thereof from 2010-2018


The rest / Re: Is Man the "Unnatural Animal?"
« on: June 02, 2019, 09:55:43 AM »

So the Great Oxygenation Event was natural. But the Great Fossil Carbon excursion  is unnatural because humans have a notion of Supremacy ?

Nature doesnt care if humans have a notion of supremacy or not. In fact Nature doesnt care, period. When the Sun expands and boils the oceans, Nature will still not care, there's billions of other planets out there, with other chemistries and other evolutions. Nature takes every bet. Nature is the house. Nature is the Universe.

The concept of Nature hospitable to humans is a human conceit. Nature would be perfectly happy with Canfield ocean and methanogenic life. Or a barren crust with the planet evaporating into solar red giant stage. As will happen in a few billion year or so.


Re: dumpster diving for food

I know some street people living under overpasses whose main food source is from dumpsters.

Some groceries security types ignore or actually help them. They let them know when they do the dumps of expired food. But since a case where a doughnut store was sued for leaving doughnuts outside the dumpster (expired food cannot be distributed in most jurisdictions in the USA) all "waste" food has to go in the dumpster.

But some groceries try to be nice about it, schedule trash pickups right before they put the expired food in the empty dumpsters, so the scavengers dont have do go thru rotten waste too much.

And some groceries security and rentacops and regular cops are total assholes, club 'em like baby seals. Sometimes tasers. Couple cases i know, firearms, claiming threat of imminent bodily harm. Doesn't help that a substantial fraction of homeless have mental problems and react poorly to law enforcement.

Scavenging is not confined to dumpsters. I have seen families go thru vegetable fields after the harvester goes thru picking up cabbage parts and beet parts and such. The farmers are usually cool with that, but as usual there are some dickheads who set their dogs on them.

Shouldnt this be in the "food" threads ?


Policy and solutions / Re: Removing CO2
« on: June 02, 2019, 05:26:41 AM »
There is a thread entitled "Carbon Capture and Storage"

Please use it. In fact i see you already have posted on that thread.

Is there some reason you opened this thread ?


The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: June 01, 2019, 11:55:22 PM »
"a disgruntled city employee opened fire inside a municipal building Friday in Virginia Beach, killing 12"

"we fired hundreds of rounds into Fallujah, killed probably hundreds of civilians"

" he and a lot of his military peers have posed in photos with people they’ve killed"

"Congressman Hunter was simply trying to make a point "

"Hunter is the first combat veteran from Iraq and Afghanistan to serve in Congress"

Hey, mebbe, just mebbe, there might be a connection between attitudes that lead to coldblooded massacre in foreign lands and those that lead to coldblooded massacre at home ?

Naaa, can't be. Empire can do no evil.


The rest / Re: Political theatre/wrestling
« on: June 01, 2019, 10:44:36 PM »
This is funny.

After setting up the Steele dossier for the Clintonistas, the Brits see Trump elected, and promptly wet their pants. They fire off not one but two memos claiming that they didn't believe Steele, not really, and would never have sent their previous messages alleging co-operation from Russia in the first place except for pressure from USA ...

In this context i note that the head of GCHQ in the UK, Robert Hannigan got the ax right after Trump was elected.

"“The message was clear: the Brits were saying they may have done some stuff to assist the investigation that they now regretted after learning the whole thing was based on information from Steele,” the former U.S. official told me. “They wanted Trump’s team to know they did not think Steele’s information was credible or reliable.

“They also wanted Trump to know whatever they had done, they did only at the Americans’ request and didn’t want it to get in the way of cooperating with the U.S.” "

for some reason the phrase "Perfidious Albion" comes to mind  ...


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