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RT, the well known purveyor of Russian propaganda opines on Trump's first year as President.


https://www.rt.com/usa/416511-year-trump-foreign-policy/

Harsh words from this mouthpiece for Putin's Russia.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: 2018 Droughts
« on: January 20, 2018, 10:28:39 AM »
LRC1962


I've never known the poor to be either lazy or stupid. Lack of opportunity, no education WRT money, a lack of self confidence and plain bad luck are more often responsible for their plight.


Terry
edit - Sorry for drifting so far from the topic.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 20, 2018, 10:00:20 AM »
Some interesting charts indicating the loss of American influence world wide since Trump's Presidency.

http://news.gallup.com/poll/225761/world-approval-leadership-drops-new-low.aspx?g_source=World&g_medium=lead&g_campaign=tiles

Trend: Global Approval of U.S. Leadership

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Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: January 20, 2018, 08:50:11 AM »
Bob
I'd expect that any vehicles carrying many liters of flammable liquids would experience more flare ups than those without. Circuit breakers are designed to fail in the open position, although the contacts certainly can weld themselves together. Fusible links provide the final safety.


I think this discussion was actually about vandals/luddites destroying parked EVs in preference to ICE vehicles.
In San Francisco buses carrying high tech workers have recently been attacked, probably as a reaction to the soaring house prices that have driven some into homelessness. As long as EVs are perceived as the vehicles of the elite, some will be attacked. Once they become popular with the masses this form of vandalism should end. 8)


Terry

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Consequences / Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« on: January 20, 2018, 08:20:00 AM »
Thanks sidd


She is either very brave or very stupid, and I have no doubt that she's as sharp as a tack.


At some point we need something like a truth and reconciliation commission. This can't be done until Gitmo and the decades of sanctioned torture have ended.
Prosecuting the guilty would cripple the country. The Nuremberg trials did nothing but prove that the victors were as unforgiving as the vanquished.


Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 20, 2018, 01:44:26 AM »

Good questions!  But I think it's fairly straightforward.  If Trump wasn't involved in the purchase-and-quash process, he can't be held responsible.  But I think the National Enquirer could still be on the hook for an illegal contribution.


Should the old Washington Post have been "on the hook" for printing, or not printing Woodward and Bernstein's contributions?


I just really have difficulties WRT infringing on free speech, and free speech has to include the right to stand mute.


If Ms. Maddow attacked Candidate Trump that was her right. Should she have decided not to attack Candidate Trump, that was also her right.
As a matter of self preservation she should not be advocating that these rights be taken away from others lest she herself falls victim at some time.


Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 20, 2018, 01:03:03 AM »
I'm sorry Steve, but, as explained on another thread I don't avail myself of TV news.


How would a candidate protect himself from charges that a third party had not printed salacious material about him?


Is the other candidate guilty of accepting "illegal campaign contributions" whenever a third party from the Fourth Estate does print something nasty about their opposition?


Doesn't freedom of the press also allow freedom to eschew the press?


Terry




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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 20, 2018, 12:35:47 AM »
New material: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/19/trump-russia-inquiry-is-told-nigel-farage-may-have-given-julian-assange-data

Trump-Russia inquiry is told Nigel Farage may have given Julian Assange data

Private investigator tells House panel Farage gave thumb drive to Assange, who officials view as a conduit for the Russian government


My bet's on local girl made good Pamela Anderson, (no relative I hope). She's "met" with Assange, has more places to hide a thumb drive, and she's definitely better clickbait. ::)


Actually, since both the US and the Brits have been keeping a very close eye on the Ecuadorian Embassy, it should be easy to either confirm that such a meeting took place, or that it did not.
If a meeting did take place it wouldn't confirm Steel's "opinion", but if no such assignation occurred it would further damage his credibility.
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 20, 2018, 12:18:14 AM »
@TerryM

Thanks for the link. Here's an update two weeks later: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/intelligence-director-says-agencies-agree-russian-meddling-n785481

ASPEN, Colorado — Daniel Coats, the director of national intelligence, said Friday there is no dissent inside U.S. intelligence agencies about the conclusion that Russia used hacking and fake news to interfere in the 2016 presidential election — despite comments by his boss, President Donald Trump, that have seemed to cast some doubt about the unanimity.

In an interview with NBC Nightly News anchor Lester Holt at the Aspen Security Forum, Coats said that the reason only four of 17 intelligence agencies signed onto the January assessment describing the Russian effort is that the other agencies were not involved in gathering and analyzing the intelligence.

Maddow did not mention the 17 agencies. That was me, and I didn't bother to check back, being my own worst enemy there. There is large agreement among the agencies, but I should have skipped that one or checked it more carefully. That does not excuse you ignoring everything that is said except things the comfort your prejudices.

I've been told this (I think the 14 November one) reads like a spy novel. Have at it, it's the original documents:
https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=850

Meanwhile, I suggest you stop blocking information you don't like. Maddow's colleague Lawrence O'Donnell uses Moynihan's tag line about not being entitled to your own facts.

By the way, Fox, which is network news, is far right. MSNBC is cable news, and tends more moderate to progressive. I don't get it on my free TV at home, not wanting to pay, but I do check online because Maddow is a superb reporter and researcher, and puts it all together in real time.


I simply don't view television as a reliable news source, and haven't for a very long time. Since moving north in 2004 I haven't viewed TV news at all. With the one exception of spinning through the dial a few months ago while away at a symposium.


I've written previously of my discomfort on that occasion.
The propaganda, to my jaundiced eye, exceeded even those heady days when good wine was flushed down the drain, and Freedom Fries were served in the capital.


It's very unlikely that I'll ever learn the names of any of the TV anchors. It has nothing to do with the matter at hand, rather my noticing over long periods of time that the facts according to talking heads didn't match what was eventually accepted as truth.


You are old enough to recall what passed for facts during Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia. Remember how Dr. Castro the hero became Mr. Castro the evil Commie, or was that one before your time.
When last I watched MSNBC they were locally known, (in Las Vegas), as the Monica Lewinsky Channel, for their round the clock coverage of that "scandal".


I'm intelligent enough, and well enough read, to do my own analysis. I don't require a Maddow to think for me, or even to point me in the right direction. From what I've seen you also possess  these assets.
I'm interested in your thoughts, not the thoughts of a corporate head who hires his Maddows to express his talking points on air.


Not watching TV news isn't a bug, it's a feature that I'll almost certainly avail myself of.


Your horribly cliched.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: January 19, 2018, 07:44:29 PM »
Wouldn't an EV be much more difficult to ignite than an ICE?
tERRY

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 19, 2018, 07:30:51 PM »
Sleazy no doubt Steve, but if this all occurred prior to the election cycle, as your post indicates, then no laws were broken, right?
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 19, 2018, 07:05:49 PM »
I'm sorry Susan, but I've never had the pleasure of hearing Maddow's no doubt dulcet tones. In my defence, Fox News dropped beneath my southern horizon in 2004.
I've had little trust in the media since Walter Cronkite informed me that some 300 Cubans were storming the beach at the Bay of Pigs, without once mentioning the CIA. The actual number was almost 6 times larger, and their command structure has been well known for many decades.


Propaganda it seems has been the one consistent output of American media for my lifetime, at least.


You mention facts, then 17 intelligence agencies. The following contains a short video that may serve to inform you of the inaccuracy of that statement.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/07/06/clapper_confirms_17_intelligence_agencies_russia_story_was_false.html

Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts. Cliches don't serve to promote anyone's argument, but neither does mis-stating known facts.
According to the gentleman who was tasked with putting the report together, it was the work of 24 men from 3 agencies, who acted independently from their organizations.

If Maddow is still going on about 17 agencies, she is certainly not a voice for truth.

Terry
PS
You didn't come to your views on global warming while watching cable news, why not apply the same diligence to this search for truth?




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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 19, 2018, 06:12:07 PM »
The pro-Trump, pro-Putin, and anti-Hillary camps looks at the ongoing (and deepening, and widening) investigation, and interpret that to mean that there must be nothing there, since if there were, Mueller would surely have locked everyone up by now.

The pro-truth, anti-conspiracy, and anti-collusion camps look at the ongoing (and deepening, and widening) investigation, and interpret that to mean that there must be much more than we are seeing at the surface, since if there weren't, Mueller would surely have ended the whole thing by now for lack of evidence.

My money is on the latter.


Oh My!!
What is a Pro-Putin, anti-conspiracy, anti-collusionist to do?


I do recall another presidential investigation. One that I personally thought went more than a little far afield. They began investigating investigating a cattle deal in Arkansas, then ended up finding that a pig in Washington saved dirty dresses.


Is Mr. Mueller following his own Starr?
Terry




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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 18, 2018, 10:09:27 PM »
"Why did the USA elect Donald Trump ?"

Well before the election a similar queston was asked, here is my reply:

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1607.msg83746.html#msg83746

You really nailed it back then, sidd. I'm amazed that people just don't see it. Here's to hoping enough will, and not too late (if it isn't already).

With the illegal surveillance by American intelligence agencies becoming more and more formalized - with no general outcry whatsoever -, I wonder if blogging about AGW and espousing my views on the causes of it on this Forum were wise things to do.
First Kudo's to sidd.


I'm an advocate for keeping politics "below the line", if only to have an easily shed segment that won't disrupt the scientific side, should that ever be required.


The large forum that had discussed Ukrainian matters before being scrubbed from the internet wasn't the result of my fetid imagination. I won't mention the name because I assume they may still be vacuuming the internet and noting whenever and wherever it's mentioned.


Stay Safe - and Have Funn
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 18, 2018, 09:48:49 PM »
ASLR
While it is theoretically possible that the NSA has handed over incontrovertible evidence of conspiracy, you must admit that it is highly unlikely.
If such evidence was at hand, the investigation would for all practical purposes be at an end, not on course for another year of expensive, disruptive investigations.
Mr. Mueller would have no need of the testimony of George, The Professor, Olga, or even the PP Papers offered by Steele. The case, as a Perry Mason type might intone - Case Closed


If you assume that TPTB are lying about what progress Mueller has made opens a Pandora's box of doubt and uncertainty.
Could Muller actually be investigating Hillary while throwing us off the scent by false leaks? - No, not likely.
Could Mueller have had sufficient evidence to convict Trump in the first weeks of the investigation, but he's dragging it out in an effort to get Bannon? - No, simply not credible.


If the NSA had provided Mueller with the evidence he needed, we would, after all of this time, have been aware of it. Trump's actions would have been different, Mueller's actions would have been different, and McCain and Hillary would be shouting it from the rooftops.
We may have little access to what is transpiring, but those with power, connections, and an interest in the case would ferret it out and would act on their knowledge. We, by watching their actions, can assure ourselves that this breakthrough never occured.


Then we must ask why the NSA came up empty handed.


Terry

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The rest / Re: But, but, but PUTIN...
« on: January 18, 2018, 07:27:32 PM »
Having Putin declared innocent in the Russia Gate thread prompts me to update this Putin thread rather than further divert that thread. 

I'm surprised and concerned that I have to point out here that this is how Putin has an 85% approval rating. I would have thought the oppression of any dissenting voice in Russia was rather obvious. I also fear that declaring Putin innocent while ignoring this can only encourage those in the US that are now attempting to assist Trump suppress any dissenting media.

Efforts to prove there was Russian meddling behind the deaths of Vladimir Putin critics have not amounted to much either.
They end up dead and Putin's calls the accusations "absurd." I guess Trump would call it fake news.
It doesn't mean that it is not true.

Denis Voronenkov in Kiev, Ukraine 2017
Boris Nemtsov, Feb. 28, 2015
Boris Berezovsky, 2013
Sergei Magnitsky, 2009 who uncovered evidence of corruption, fraud and a cover up.
Natalya Estemirova, 2009 was a journalist who investigated abductions and murders that had become commonplace in Chechnya.
Stanislav Markelov and Anastasia Baburova, 2009
Anna Politkovskaya, 2006
Alexander Litvinenko, 2006 a former KGB agent who died three weeks after drinking a cup of tea laced with deadly polonium-210 at a London hotel.
Sergei Yushenkov, 2003
Yuri Shchekochikhin, 2003 a journalist and author who wrote about crime and corruption in the former Soviet Union when it was still very difficult to do so

This list I came across someplace and I no longer have a link but these details are easily found. Free and fair media is long dead in Russia and President Putin is 7 foot tall.


What's to follow?
Another "Arkancide" list?
Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 18, 2018, 07:22:04 PM »
I think Lyndsey Vonn or Adam Rippon would be good choices to carry the US flag at the upcoming Olympics (opening and closing ceremonies).

After all.....we want to make lying Mikey as comfortable as possible....

http://washingtonpress.com/2018/01/17/mike-pence-will-lead-us-olympic-delegation-gay-athletes-response-everything/


I think watching North and South Korea marching together during the opening ceremonies will be the highlight of the games. :)
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 18, 2018, 07:17:26 PM »

When someone takes the position “Putin is innocent,” it tells you everything you need to know about them, and their views should either be summarily dismissed or not taken seriously.


It appears that some require an exhaustive explanation rather than a curt summary.


There is no credible evidence of collusion, or conspiracy between the Trump campaign and V. Putin at this time. Since considerable resources have been expended in the search for such evidence it becomes increasingly less likely that such evidence will be found.


Since contacts between D. Trump and V. Putin had to have been electronically transmitted at some point, and since the NSA was monitoring both of the involved parties, the NSA would have access to these negotiations, conformations, or declarations.


Unless the NSA has been compromised they can and would have provided Mr. Mueller investigation with the "smoking gun" evidence required.
Had the NSA provided this evidence the investigation would have concluded many months ago, and word of the breakthrough would have leaked.


Should the NSA suddenly discover the "smoking gun" evidence at this late time, many serious questions would be asked about their reticence at producing it in a timely manner. It is unlikely that a satisfactory explanation could be found.


Based on the above, as well as other exculpatory evidence I'm very sure that V. Putin is innocent of the charges of conspiracy with the Trump Campaign that Mrs. Clinton leveled at the end of her unsuccessful presidential run



Terry

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The rest / Re: Arctic Café
« on: January 18, 2018, 10:59:21 AM »
All good ivica, and I especially like the Assange poster!


Very few heros left, unfortunately.

Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 18, 2018, 04:16:51 AM »

If I didn't know you better, I'd think you're with Republicans in wishing to appoint three new special prosecutors, two for Hillary and one for Steele, firing or at least discrediting Mueller, and getting rid of all whistleblowers and Democrats who stand up for the truth in favor of condemning anyone who dares point to what is going on and/or who criticizes Trump and his enablers and coconspirator kleptocrats. Nunes is moral, is that your idea? I think you should either become better informed or stand down.


I have the impression you believe in "the preponderance of the evidence" about climate change; why is it so hard for you to accept the mounting evidence that Trump was played as a Putin asset and is deep in debt, possibly to the level of blackmail, to Russian oligarchs?


Susan
I cut all but two of your paragraphs in an effort to address your concerns.


I've no idea why you think I'd support appointing any new prosecutors. I've no interest in continuing with these proceedings on any level. Hillary lost. I fear that the DNC cares more for it's own survival than the survival of liberal policies, but this will play out at the polls, not in the courts or investigative committees.
I can't imagine why you would think that I'd appreciate Nunes? Perhaps I need to watch American news channels - but I'd much prefer to demure.


After following Putin for ~3 years, I'd be relieved to believe that Trump was somehow being manipulated by Putin. Alas, I've seen nothing that indicates this to be true. Puppets don't arm your enemies or bomb your allies.


The White House tell-all book so recently available tells the story of an oaf who unwittingly wins the Presidency. His populist rants unexpectedly thrust him into his present position & he's now come to believe that he's qualified for the position.
He promised everything to everyone during the campaign because he had no hope, (or fear), of having to make good on these promises. He never learned the ins and outs of running the country because neither he nor his entourage had considered winning a possibility.
There is some degree of truth here.


I do believe that Hillary, like Romney, McCain, and the others, were vulnerable to Russian Blackmail. Trump less so if only because he'd come so recently to politics.


Collusion is no crime, conspiracy is.
Why has the country been fed a collusion narrative? Could it be because conspiracy has been ridiculed since JFK's demise? Could it be that the folks who made up this story didn't want it to be compared to other conspiracies?


Trump's an ass, Republicans are the problem. Putin is innocent.
Terry


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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 18, 2018, 01:22:00 AM »
The Koreas are jinxing Trump's, and Canada's plans for their peninsula.


https://www.rt.com/news/416177-north-south-korea-olympic-team/

The Koreans seem to be most upset by America's insistence on placing the THAAD system in their peninsula. That and the bi-annual joint war games that disrupt both planting and harvest operations.

The Koreans seem able to co-exist, perhaps, after more than half a century, we should give them the opportunity?
Terry

Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 17, 2018, 11:15:30 PM »
Per the linked article: "Bannon admitted that he'd had conversations with Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer and legal spokesman Mark Corallo about Don Junior's infamous meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower in June 2016."

Title: "Inside the room: What Steve Bannon told Congress yesterday"

https://www.axios.com/steve-bannon-congress-testimony-inside-room-e30bd797-3720-44f0-bf32-5760cb6882e9.html

Extract: "Steve Bannon made one conspicuous slip up in his closed-door hearing on Tuesday with the House Intelligence Committee, according to four sources with direct knowledge of the confidential proceedings. Bannon admitted that he'd had conversations with Reince Priebus, Sean Spicer and legal spokesman Mark Corallo about Don Junior's infamous meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower in June 2016.

Why it matters: The meeting — and the subsequent drafting of a misleading statement on Air Force One — has become one of the most important focal points of the Russia investigations, both on Capitol Hill and within Robert Mueller's team, because it provides the closest thing that exists to evidence that the Trump campaign was willing to entertain collusion with Russians."
Miss - Mile
There isn't much evidence at all then, is there.
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 17, 2018, 11:10:33 PM »

Some on the Left have interests in common with some on the Right.  When this happens, they use the same erroneous narratives.  Reverence for St. Putin is one such area where alt-Right and alt-Left seem to agree.


Thank god there are intellectual giants such as yourself to correct both the Left and the Right.
Apart from an appeal to one authority, do you have any substantive response to the corrections I stated?  But on that one appeal to authority, any specific links to offer?

There was no "appeal to authority", only an irrefutable example that disproved your contention.


Terry
BTW - It's considered bad form to edit one's comments while a discussion of them is ongoing, but I'm sure you are aware of these niceties.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 17, 2018, 10:55:53 PM »
Susan


Apologies for precedent, but fail to find fault with octogenarian?


I've always found a 30 year window of agism comfortable. If you're 10 years younger you're "young", if 20 years older you're "old". Unfortunately I'm creeping into damn near everyone's definition of "old".


The rant re. Feinstein was in part triggered by her own claims that she had a head cold, and wasn't able to think clearly. The unspoken implication was that had she had her wits about her, she certainly wouldn't have done what she did.
If she isn't willing to stand for her actions, why should I?


Dementia was undoubtedly a bridge too far, but when octogenarians complain of not being able to think clearly, it is what comes to mind. BTW I don't consider octogenarian to be a pejorative, but it is a little long in the tooth for someone in change. I'm a day younger than Trump, and personally wouldn't consider myself fit to be heading a large enterprise, let alone a country.


After a 12 year run I resigned the presidency of the local chapter of an international group on my 70th birthday. I'm not sure that the new leader is as good as I was at 58, but she's a real improvement over me at 70.
The membership would have kept me in power for another decade based on changes I'd made when I took over. I knew better, and I suspect that Feinstein has seen the handwriting on the wall.
We need new blood.


As far as mounting evidence of Trump and Putin's collusion, I have to ask, what evidence?
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 17, 2018, 09:54:00 PM »
Steve


I "parrot" no one as my thoughts are mine alone. These thoughts do not come from the a right wing viewpoint as my leftist leanings have been evident at least since my days of marching for People's Park in Berkley. You might note that my avatar is a photo of me protesting one of Harper's more outlandish power grabs here in Canada, where Fox News isn't seen.


Lumping all opposition together, then pushing it far to the right, does nothing but obscure the fact that many from the left also reject your narrative. Noam Chomsky doesn't follow the script. Do you consider him to be "Parroting right wing propaganda points from Trump supporters"?


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 17, 2018, 07:55:58 PM »
Well thank heaven the intrepid reporters from the NYT are back on the case.


So, was Bannon meeting with the Professor, Lovely Olga, or Stumblin' George?


Thanks to the NYT, we've known for some time that Mueller's efforts have all been based on the admittedly soggy evidence supplied by Papadopoulos to the "Ambassador".


My guess is Bannon in the Wine Cellar with Olga, using a Vodka Gimlet.


But questions remain!


Why did "The Octogenarian" leak testimony re. the Pee Pee Papers. This was probably a federal crime, and certainly went against hundreds of years of president. Does this place "The Ocogerian" in the same position as Ms. Manning, or Mr. Snowden?
Could her "head cold" have so diminished her capacities as to render her blameless, or is this a sign that rapid onset alzheimer's has struck yet again in the "Foggy Bottom"?


I'm sure that with the fine reporters of the NYT on the case, the truth will out and the 4th Estate will once again save us from our evil overlord, or overlords.


Terry
PS
If a board game should be in the offing, I'd like it noted that on this date I claim a copyright ownership for "CLUELESS", "George of the Jugular," and "Putin's Pee Pee Playhouse".

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Policy and solutions / Re: Schumpeterian Creative Destruction
« on: January 16, 2018, 08:31:48 PM »
Education, in a not to far future, without the need for human intervention, will need a complete overhaul.


If being educated to fulfil some positive service for your fellow man, or to increase your own income potential, loses not just it's luster, but it's entire raison d'etre, then do we send our little Johnnies and Janes off to learn advanced leisure appreciation, sexual gratification 101, or how to avoid run on sentence structure?


Why teach a child arithmetic, or reading, when a Bot's App will take care of all of that?


When all the Teaching Bots stand idle, will the Theobots take up the slack? What wondrous fantasies will AI weave to keep the religiously inclined entertained? Oz, with a machine behind the curtain. Elmer Gantry.ai, striding through the community, cloaked in virtual virtue.


Could Climatic Catastrophe be so much worse?
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Schumpeterian Creative Destruction
« on: January 16, 2018, 07:54:15 PM »
With AI, and robotics I can't think of any job classification that has an assured future, except perhaps for illegal trades. Safe crackers, purse snatchers, and purveyors of illegal substances or services should always be able to eek out an ever more dangerous living.
Think about your present employment, then ponder how much better a never ill, never forgetful, never distracted machine could perform your duties.


What we need in coming days is a way to so greatly expand the idle rich, that they combine with the newly created idle middle class as well as the idle poor. 8)


Once a method of payment is decided on, we then need a way to keep these demographics separated. The idle rich certainly don't want to share their haunts with the idle middle class, and neither of these share interests with the bums at the bottom of the ladder.


How can we equitable finance these groups, none of whom contribute toward society as a whole, in a fair manner that retains the class distinctions that so clearly cut through all of our societies?


Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 16, 2018, 01:42:28 PM »

All those great things in Norway like free education, free healthcare etc., aren't free at all, that's just leftist propagande. They are paid for by some of the world's highest taxes, as in the rest of Scandinavia. USA has a freedom of choice that you won't have in Norway (or many other European countries)


If you agree that living in a healthy, well educated country benefits all of the citizenry, shouldn't the costs then also be shared?
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: January 16, 2018, 01:31:08 PM »
Two autonomous 12 passenger mini buses will drive this distance in Stockholm/Kista, starting now in January.
https://goo.gl/maps/2UpdabDbAk42

Check out the speed in the video here:
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/stockholm/fran-och-med-januari-kan-du-aka-i-forarlos-buss-i-kista
They might have difficulties getting through an interchange before the light changes. :)
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Nuclear Power
« on: January 16, 2018, 01:00:41 AM »
This is an interesting pair of graphs, but I would argue that renewables are just now reaching the beginning of the vertical part of an exponential adoption curve, so we can’t presume their future rate of build-out by looking at the past.


Intriguing, but where is China, how is India progressing?
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: January 16, 2018, 12:50:40 AM »
On topic, but from a different angle.


I've seen a few representations of what an autonomous EV will look like, but can't help wonder if other factors might not come into play.


Presently we have windows everywhere. Will non drivers care so much for viewing the passing vehicles and landmarks, or might privacy, lack of glare, and comfortable lighting take president.
While rushing to work would a desk, computer and communications take precedence over a fine view of the road? Would some prefer a bed or a wide couch instead of being strapped upright?


I recall a few of the custom vans from the 70's that provided a bed, a sink, a toilet. a refrigerator, even small TVs. Wouldn't this prove a boon when actually driving the beast didn't need to be a consideration?


What design of cab would be preferable for cruising the red light districts?
Would an espresso machine and toaster oven be useful for those racing to the office, or would an overstuffed chair, a large screen TV and popcorn machine be useful for the long commute home?


All of these configurations are available now, but now we need to make accommodations for an ever attentive driver. For some reason most prefer to drive alone. What forms of portable Man Caves, or She Sheds are likely to appear?


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Schumpeterian Creative Destruction
« on: January 15, 2018, 09:46:58 PM »
Creative destruction or destructive deflation?


War from above seems have been the prefered mode of destruction since the horse trotted off the global stage. Recently however, the only rebuilding has been by the MIC as they build newer, more expensive machines designed to convert housing, manufacturing, and commerce into dust.


Rebuilding Berlin, where even cobblestones needed to be replaced with the compacted dust used in concrete pavers, was a milestone in destruction, only to be rapidly surpassed by Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They claim that when the general responsible for North Korea's carpet bombings finally set foot on land he threw up at the realization of what he had done.


I'm not sure our side has learned much about rebuilding since Mrs O'Leary's cow went on an incendiary rampage.


Lately they haven't been holding up their end of the bargain. Instead of taking out high interest loans and industriously rebuilding, they've taken to immigrating to somewhere where we're less likely to bomb them.
How does this help our ailing banking sector? Who will buy our bulldozers when everyone just fades away?


Perhaps destruction of our own economy via EV's is the sensible way forward. Bombing sand into ever tinier grains of sand just doesn't seem to be working.
Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 14, 2018, 11:44:55 PM »
Well I'm certainly relieved by those poll numbers.  ;)

I thought I was actually going to need to donate time or money or ... something. With a 17 point lead we can rest easy knowing Nancy will taking care of donations, then she can hire whatever help she needs with no need for volunteers.

What a relief.  :)

Terry

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The forum / Re: ! No longer available
« on: January 14, 2018, 11:09:21 PM »
I managed somehow to shrink me edit/post/reply menu to the point where it accepted no input.

The work around seems to be to engage the [toggle view] icon, stretch the screen to a usable size, then input, preview and post as normal.
The downside is that the default [view] is still an unusable single line that accepts no input or modification.

Logging off and turning off my computer did no good. I searched the help section without success. While this is far from an ideal solution I'll leave this which may aid someone down the line.

Terry

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The forum / Re: ! No longer available
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:55:26 PM »
Testing
please ignore or delete

Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 14, 2018, 02:35:28 AM »
Personally, I didn't approve of these tactics when they were using them against Clinton either.


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 13, 2018, 08:09:30 PM »
Anyone have any idea on why suddenly all of these old stories are being dragged out one more time?


Trump screwed a porn star in 2006 - although everyone involved denies it.


H R Haldeman shows Nixon to have saved the world from nuclear war in 1969 - If you can't trust in Nixon, what is the matter with you.


Putin has the goods on Trump because of Trump's lustful ways - but having Bill sleep over at his house wouldn't have lead to any blackmailable footage.


Is it just a very slow news day?
Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 12, 2018, 07:24:00 PM »
"Drumpf I of Trumpistan has officially declared "Haiti is a shithole of a nation". This means that the republican senators, may God bless their white souls, are not allowed to call Haiti anything other than a shithole that it is. Else they may find their resignation letters be written for them and asses put permanently in retirement.", the Trumpistan Righteous Office of Official And Sophisticated Statements.(TROO ASS)


Deplorable !!

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 11, 2018, 06:22:33 PM »

As Palmer has reported on.....Grassley and Lindsay Graham are NOT making sense.  I have NEVER trusted Grassley.  But Graham....really has done a 180 degree turn.  One thing I continue to see in business is this:  If things don't make sense....THERE IS ALWAYS A REASON BEHIND IT.  And it is usually NOT A GOOD REASON.

What caused Lindsay Graham to do a 180?  Is it....as Palmer suggests....that he might be getting blackmailed by Donnie for something he has done?  Does Donnie "have something on him".


I seriously doubt that Trump has much of anything on anyone, he's just not very clever.  However, it's quite plausible that, say, the Mercers might have informed Lindsey Graham that if he doesn't support Trump, massive funding will go to a primary challenger in his next re-election bid.

Sadly, this would seem to be perfectly legal blackmail.  Sigh.  Citizen's United is destroying my country.
Once the Supremes were politicized the battle was lost. Harper attempted to do likewise here in Canada. Fortunately, almost anyone bright enough to pass the bar was bright enough to see through Harper.  ::)
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 11, 2018, 06:07:52 PM »
So, the transcript contains nothing seriously new regarding Trump.
It's perhaps more interesting regarding Browder (responsible for the Magnitsky act).
The only effect is that now suddenly everybody takes The Dossier seriously.
Good.
Well, perhaps not quite everybody.


I thought we were all supposed to pay attention to the Greek Geek, the Maltese Professor and Olga, Putin's Seductive, but Secretive Supposed Niece.


The Pay 4 Pee Dossier didn't have anything to do with anything according to the NYT.
The Maltese Professor and Seductive Olga, who had plied poor Papadopoulos with Uzo in a darkened London Lounge, they were responsible for Mueller's Mulish insistence on investigating these inebriated instances of treasonous treachery!


If not for the bravery of a slightly intoxicated Australian Ambassador, their plan would have seen fruition. Fortunately this bright, if rheumy eyed, stumbling Statesman spilled the beans, or the borscht, to a minion in his security staff, who quickly alerted his superiors in the American FBI.
Within a year Papadopoulos had been charged with getting his facts wrong, and the rest, as they say, is history.


NYT said it. I believe it. That settles it.  ::)
Terry


Sorry for quoting my own post, but after the responses I had to check the original.


It is as I recalled, Putin's imaginary niece is addressed, but I never a mentioned the Russian leader.


Why would someone reply to the above by asking questions about people and places never mentioned in the original? Is this indicative of some grade school attempt to change the topic?


If you don't remember Papadopoulos's party with Olga and The Professor I can provide links.
If it's that you're so unsure of the wet bed dossier that you won't discuss it, then simply ignore it, but a juvenile attempt at diversion remains nothing but a juvenile attempt at diversion.


I really did expect more from the posters at this forum.
Non sequitur is not a valid argument - above the 4th grade.
Terry  8)

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: January 11, 2018, 03:11:26 AM »
So, the transcript contains nothing seriously new regarding Trump.
It's perhaps more interesting regarding Browder (responsible for the Magnitsky act).
The only effect is that now suddenly everybody takes The Dossier seriously.
Good.
Well, perhaps not quite everybody.


I thought we were all supposed to pay attention to the Greek Geek, the Maltese Professor and Olga, Putin's Seductive, but Secretive Supposed Niece.


The Pay 4 Pee Dossier didn't have anything to do with anything according to the NYT.
The Maltese Professor and Seductive Olga, who had plied poor Papadopoulos with Uzo in a darkened London Lounge, they were responsible for Mueller's Mulish insistence on investigating these inebriated instances of treasonous treachery!


If not for the bravery of a slightly intoxicated Australian Ambassador, their plan would have seen fruition. Fortunately this bright, if rheumy eyed, stumbling Statesman spilled the beans, or the borscht, to a minion in his security staff, who quickly alerted his superiors in the American FBI.
Within a year Papadopoulos had been charged with getting his facts wrong, and the rest, as they say, is history.


NYT said it. I believe it. That settles it.  ::)
Terry

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The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: January 10, 2018, 11:02:15 PM »
It appears the moment has passed and the auction went off without a hitch.


Still, a moment to consider dumping American stocks and Real Estate and aligning my income more with the Canadian economy.
I've never applied for Social Security, and at 71 there are no further monetary incentives not to do so. I just hate dealing with American Bureaucracies.  >:(


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« on: January 10, 2018, 09:50:30 PM »
Mitigation galore. 2°C, here we come.  :(


I'll see your 2, and raise you 0.5.


Your bet
Terry


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The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: January 10, 2018, 09:45:59 PM »
China reconsiders buying US Treasuries:

"Senior government officials in Beijing reviewing the nation’s foreign-exchange holdings have recommended slowing or halting purchases of U.S. Treasuries ..."

"The market for U.S. government bonds is becoming less attractive relative to other assets, and trade tensions with the U.S. may provide a reason to slow or stop buying American debt ... "

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-10/china-officials-are-said-to-view-treasuries-as-less-attractive

sidd


OOOOUUUUCCCCHHHH
What funds I have are all in American Dollars.


As long as the Canadian Loonie sinks faster than it's American counterpart I suppose I'll be OK, but lets hope this was all just schoolyard talk. :o
Everyone want's to hold American Treasuries right.


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Cars, cars and more cars. And trucks, and....
« on: January 10, 2018, 09:35:22 PM »
I have a link now, but it's not english. And they are not talking about autonomous ships. The small ones have a battery the size of a container, and can operate for 15 hours. The big ones have 4 of these batteries and can operate for 35 hours. And it takes 4 hours to charge the battery.

http://www.engineeringnet.be/belgie/detail_belgie.asp?Id=19947&category=nieuws&titel=Wereldprimeur:%20elektrische%20binnenvaartschepen%20tussen%20Nederland%20en%20België
Thanks
Having the batteries mounted in shipping containers so that they can be changed, and charged later makes lots of sense,
Auto translate worked just fine.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Oceanic anoxia
« on: January 10, 2018, 08:44:58 PM »
Terry, it's a 6 story brick mill building converted to an artists' cooperative, and the water came up to the sidewalk but didn't come in. To seaward of us, the surge shocked the occupants of at least 30 expensive new highrises on what was formerly waste land. Boston is largely made land, though hilly as well, but the seaward lowlands and some areas that should be turned back to nature did not do well in this storm. It was a direct lesson in how low pressure raises sea level, and how close we are to the future of sea level rise.

Sorry you were distracted. The vlog brothers, Hank Green (and John) are quite well known in younger circles, and their style densely packs a lot of information. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Green They offer a wide range of educational videos and are well informed.

As I do all too often, I offer an OT amusement, which I hope you will enjoy. My physicist father says the words are accurate, which is rather remarkable. No mole to distract you:



Thanks Susan, and an apology for losing the thread.
Your living accommodations are envied. The old mills, in this region at least, invested heavily in glass so as to save on lighting. Hence they've made wonderful lofts and condos, and an "art cooperative" sounds ideal for intellectual stimulation.
Could I ask which "art" you pursue? My wife has an on again off again love affair with oil painting, but she's a wonderful sculptress with no interest in the medium. I bang away on a piano from time to time, but I'll go for months without touching the keyboard. Decades ago she'd write poetry, and I'd put them to music.


I had no idea how isolating apartment life could be. 16 floors effectively insulates one from the street, and ofttimes it's just easier to stay home with a book. Fortunately other options are open through political and social clubs, but I do miss sitting on the porch and interacting with the human traffic flowing past.


Assume your weather's back to whatever the new normal is? The "younger circles" I'm in contact with have mainly slipped into their 40's, so the vlog brothers slipped under my radar. Thanks for the heads up!
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Floods
« on: January 10, 2018, 08:09:04 PM »
From the pictures on the local T.V. news Montecito took a very big economic hit last night. The Montecito Inn took several feet of water from a debris flow. For anyone who has been there the Montecito Inn is downtown , right by the 101 freeway. The 101 is just a mess. There were areas where five to six feet of mud flows and debris sweep through residences and businesses.
 The evacuation notices for Montecito weren't as successful as the fire evacuations had been. There have been five fatalities and there may be more.
 There aren't more storms in the immediate forecast, the low is currently sitting directly over S.B. and moving off to the Southeast. Tomorrow will be nice but this is going to take days to clear the debris off the highway and from city streets. I am calling billions$  in damages . This is just the start of the rain season and there is the very real possibility this can happen again over the next month.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheEllenShow/status/950807626509574144?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
For the life of me I can't recall Montecito, but the video's show devastation.
I suppose LA north traffic is now limited to I-5, the most boring drive on the planet.


Until something sets some deep roots we're going to see mud slides every time it rains.


Stay safe
Terry

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: January 10, 2018, 08:00:31 PM »
Sorry
I can't cheer for more people being out of work, no matter who stands to benefit from their plight.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« on: January 10, 2018, 07:55:26 PM »
Bob, it was in the first link, of that link I posted above.
http://www.climatechangenews.com/2018/01/08/germany-set-abandon-2020-climate-target-reports/
Germany’s two biggest political parties have agreed to scrap the goal of cutting greenhouse gas emissions 40% from 1990 levels by 2020.

That was reported by Reuters on Monday, citing two sources familiar with coalition negotiations.

Terry, why wouldn't Putin want to use natural gas? They have plenty.


Boy do they ever!!
They use more than amy country in the world, except of course the exceptional one. And export it like crazy.

https://www.bp.com/content/dam/bp/en/corporate/pdf/energy-economics/statistical-review-2017/bp-statistical-review-of-world-energy-2017-full-report.pdf

The above is BP's energy review for 2017. It has enough data on national energy reserves, imports, and exports to prove just about any point one wants to make. 8) It closes at the end of 2016, so it's missing the new Russia to China pipeline that is doubling Russia's oil exports to the east.

A mountain of data.
Terry

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