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The politics / Re: The Media: Examples of Good AND Bad Journalism
« on: March 30, 2020, 08:07:26 AM »
Call for a global cease fire.

From UN Secretary General António Guterres :


Our world faces a common enemy: COVID-19.

The virus does not care about nationality or ethnicity, faction or faith. It attacks all, relentlessly.

Meanwhile, armed conflict rages on around the world.

The most vulnerable — women and children, people with disabilities, the marginalized and the displaced — pay the highest price.

They are also at the highest risk of suffering devastating losses from COVID-19.

Let’s not forget that in war-ravaged countries, health systems have collapsed.

Health professionals, already few in number, have often been targeted.

Refugees and others displaced by violent conflict are doubly vulnerable.

The fury of the virus illustrates the folly of war.

That is why today, I am calling for an immediate global ceasefire in all corners of the world.

Join the call for an immediate global ceasefire.

It is time to put armed conflict on lockdown and focus together on the true fight of our lives.

To warring parties, I say:

Pull back from hostilities.

Put aside mistrust and animosity.

Silence the guns; stop the artillery; end the airstrikes.

This is crucial…

To help create corridors for life-saving aid.

To open precious windows for diplomacy.

To bring hope to places among the most vulnerable to COVID-19.

Let us take inspiration from coalitions and dialogue slowly taking shape among rival parties in some parts to enable joint approaches to COVID-19. But we need much more.

End the sickness of war and fight the disease that is ravaging our world.

It starts by stopping the fighting everywhere. Now.

That is what our human family needs, now more than ever.

- UN Secretary General António Guterres

Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: February 19, 2020, 10:02:26 AM »
So Grüne Liga managed to stop Tesla's work at Brandenburg with a temporary injunction, which may be just long enough to delay work for the EV maker by a year, because Tesla cannot take down any trees after breeding season starts in this man-made forest. Which is in about 8 days from now.

A "green" organization protesting against a "green" automotive company ?

What's going on here ?

I dug around a bit an came across this interview with Heinz-Herwig Mascher, the chairman of the Brandenburg Grüne Liga :

This is the core of his argument :

We fear that a precedent will be created here. If Tesla really does manage to put this factory down in a year and a half, others will see how it went. Then several environmental protection laws come under pressure because it is said: "In the Tesla case they were not applied."

Now, that's a fair point to make, but in this case Tesla takes all the risks :
If Tesla doed NOT get the permits they need to complete their plant, they would need to restore the site to it's original, or even better :

If Tesla is not allowed to build the Grünheide factory, the company must replace the felled pine monoculture with a mixed forest. Wouldn't that be an improvement?

to which Heinz-Herwig Mascher answers :

That would be an upgrade. But I don't know whether this is legally mandatory.

So he doesn't trust an agreement that Tesla already signed.

Yet his lawyers still managed to convince the courts to put this $ 4 billion, 12,000 job electric car project on hold and possibly for over a year.

Mr Heinz-Herwig Mascher and his Grüne Liga seem to prefer gasoline cars and slow moving projects.

And he doesn't seem to realize that to stop the climate crisis we need immediate and bold action to move our transportation systems away from fossil fuels and towards renewable energy.

Maybe Tesla should look elsewhere, because with Grüne Liga in charge, we are just going to get Fossil Fuel BAU.

[edit] The "partners" of Grüne Liga Brandenburg are listed here :
They include "Die Linke" as the political party supporting them.

Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: February 16, 2020, 08:05:41 AM »
Tesla CEO Elon Musk has promised ...

... to obey German regulation!

This is not unique to Tesla. Every company has to do that.

If you like this regulation, Elon, stop bullshitting and praise the German law instead!

I'm sorry, but exactly where in these statements :

“Tesla CEO Elon Musk has promised that the trees taken from the area will be replaced three-fold in areas that surround Brandenburg. While there were some minor roadblocks when looking for land that was suitable for replacement trees, Tesla eventually found space in multiple areas with the help of a German environmental group called Brandenburg Area Agency. The company plans to plant more environmentally beneficial trees this time, instead of the ‘low quality’ that they are removing from the Brandenburg property.”

was Elon "bullshitting" ?

And what is this "praise the German law" BS all about ?

With the Democratic Primaries well on their way, and Bernie being the prime candidate at this time, there is one question I have for the Bernie-or-bust posters here (of which I know Neven is one) :

If Bernie ends up NOT being the Democratic candidate, would you vote Blue-no-matter-Who ? Or Trump ?

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: February 07, 2020, 10:12:07 AM »
Kirk Douglas on Hitler:

"I was 16 when that man came to power in 1933.  For almost a decade before his rise he was laughed at ― not taken seriously.  He was seen as a buffoon who couldn’t possibly deceive an educated, civilized population with his nationalistic, hateful rhetoric"

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: February 06, 2020, 11:08:41 AM »
After the impeachment trial :

In Private, Republicans Admit They Acquitted Trump Out of Fear

One journalist remarked, “How in the world can these senators walk around here upright when they have no backbone?”

The politics / Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« on: January 22, 2020, 09:42:33 AM »
Did it ever occur to you that that "establishment narrative" may actually be pretty close to the truth

Well, not in the last 30 years or so.

I meant for this particular chemical attack on Douma, April 7, 2018, in which at least 43 people were killed.

These two need to STOP fighting each other over silly stuff that they basically agree on, and just present their own plans for the future of the US and beating Trump.

I have even more respect for Bernie Sanders now than before this incident.

I'm quite sure Sanders doesn't want to lose your vote. But Biden is still 100% corrupt, just like Trump, serving concentrated wealth and not the people.

So let me get this straight.
Even after Bernie says this :

“It is absolutely not my view that Joe is corrupt in any way. And I’m sorry that that op-ed appeared,”

you still argue that "Biden is still 100% corrupt" ?

Sanders apologizes to Biden, for an op-ed re-posted by his campaign :

Mr. Sanders distanced himself from the piece by Zephyr Teachout, an associate professor at Fordham Law School, former New York political candidate and longtime supporter of Mr. Sanders. The op-ed, published on Monday in The Guardian, argued that Mr. Biden “represents the transactional, grossly corrupt culture in Washington that long precedes Trump.”

Good on you, Bernie !

Not just was that Zephyr Teachout going too far, assigning "corruption" where even by Zephyr's own assessment that Trump's corruption is 1000x worse than Biden's (if any), but it also runs against Bernie's paradigm to BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, not drive them apart.

I have even more respect for Bernie Sanders now than before this incident.

<snip, none of that lesser evil stupidity here, thanks; N.>

The politics / Re: US intervention in foreign lands
« on: January 21, 2020, 04:54:11 AM »
A very one-sided opinion piece that follows establishment narratives to a T.

Did it ever occur to you that that "establishment narrative" may actually be pretty close to the truth, since, just like this article, most MSM news networks and research organizations and the UN and the OPCW and fact-checkers like Bellingcat use facts and evidence-based reasoning to find the truth about the war in Syria, and chemical weapons used there ?

Fortunately, the first and only comment to this article provides necessary nuance:

Are you seriously suggesting Syrian rebels would not want the western allies to impose a 'no-fly zone' a la Libya...

The author of the article did not suggest anything like that, and in fact did not even mention a 'no-fly zone' anywhere.
Neven, if you are going to highlight an argument against all of MSM and against the many reports of chemical weapon use by Assad against his own people by reputable organizations including the UN, then please pick one that actually uses evidence to counter the points made, not some fact-free comment under a blog post that starts off with a false statement and gets worse after that.

Meanwhile, here is the result of a detailed investigation of chemical weapon use in Syria.
All 336 confirmed cases of them :

Nowhere to Hide: The Logic of Chemical Weapons Use in Syria

The politics / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: January 20, 2020, 10:49:37 AM »
<snip, this needs to go into the US intervention thread, I've moved it there; N.>

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 17, 2020, 07:26:09 AM »
The FBI arrested three members of a neo-Nazi hate group who had weapons and discussed traveling to a pro-gun rally on Monday in Richmond, Virginia, in anticipation of a “possible race war.” The NRA has yet to disavow the rally.

Maybe that "deep state" is actually working as intended.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 14, 2020, 06:46:58 AM »
I believe that the US publicly apologised for having mislabeled hideouts as "hospitals".

I'm sure you "believe" that, but that does not make it so.

Here in the world where we have references to our claims, the Russians have been bombing hundreds of hospitals, schools and mosques in Syria (as a war strategy), and lied about it verifiably and consistently, ever since they came to help Assad in 2015.

This is well documented on the Wiki page for it, with links to many reports from organizations like the ICRC (Red Cross) and MSF (Doctors Without Borders) and the UN. Russia even bombed hospitals that the UN had given them coordinates to as being health facilities, and suppressed UN investigations into these war crimes.

The NYT article is another report about these hospital bombings by the Russian Air Force, but this time with an extraordinary amount of evidence presented. Just read the report and listen to the Russian pilots before and after they strike their target and be amazed as to how detailed the NYT has researched this issue :

There is a LOT more I'd like to say about Russia's war crimes in Syria, and the denial of them by some members of this forum, but I suggest we move that discussion to the "Russia" thread.

Back on topic for this thread :

Trump's threats of war crimes (strikes against Iranian cultural sites) and war-mongering (threatening FAST and HARD retaliations against Iran) is having real deadly consequences as Iran military, on critical alert, mistakenly shot down a civilian airliner.

<snip, don't go off-topic after saying 'back on topic', and take it to the Syria thread. While at it you might want to discuss the OPCW whistleblower scandal, but probably not; N.>

Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: January 13, 2020, 09:49:55 AM »
Or take Apple. 12 years ago, they had a real good product, just like Tesla has now.
Their product costs customers about $25/month.
Tesla's product (a car) is at least $250/month.

So I would be severely disappointed if Tesla is not a $1 trillion company 10 years from now, and not surprised if they will be worth much more than that.

Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: January 13, 2020, 09:41:54 AM »
Those who aren't borrowing on Tesla shares have nothing to fear when the bubble bursts.

I remember when Amazon was worth 90 Billion. Just 8 years ago.
That bubble is still not bursting, and Amazon does not even have a product.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 13, 2020, 06:03:48 AM »
Rob, we agree.

Wow. It's been a while. Glad you agree.

Just to be sure I understand you : you DO find that war crimes are BAD, right ?
Like, for example, if some country would ... I don't know ... maybe bomb hospitals in Syria or something
that that is BAD and should be reported upon and denouned too, right ?

Thanks if you agree with that too.

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 12, 2020, 09:30:06 AM »
Trump likes to present himself as the anti-establishment candidate, and the anti-war message is a big part of that.
The difference with Russiagate and Ukrainegate is that those types of 'attacks' actually provide an argument for his anti-establishment narrative. Which is why they are so fundamentally stupid.

Trump "anti-war" ? What are you smoking ?

On Trump's first full day in office, in January 2017, according to The Post, the CIA showed Trump a recording of a drone strike in which operators had waited to strike until the target wandered away from his home, which had his family inside. But Trump apparently questioned the move.

"Why did you wait?" the person at the meeting recalled Trump saying.

and he campaigned on war crimes with statements like this :

"When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families..."

No other president in the history of the US has ever advocated a war-crime, until Trump campaigned on it.

The rest / Re: SpaceX
« on: January 10, 2020, 07:51:22 AM »
What could possibly go wrong?

A lot according to the American Astronomical Society.
& image below.

The Private Sector acting without thought for anyone other than themselves is likely screwing up a good deal of space science. & not just SpaceX. But Musk / SpaceX leads the charge. The sooner he goes to Mars the better.

Hi gerontocrat, that BBC article talks mostly about Starlink's potential "brightness of its satellites", which is (for LEO satellites) only an issue about 30 minutes after sunset and 30 before sunrise.

Knowing these facts, is that last remark (in bold) just a joke, or are you serious ? And if you are serious, please elaborate. Thanks !

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 06, 2020, 06:35:20 AM »
Insane that we need to invoke this now, but just in case the lunatic in chief happens to go further than he already did, there is this :

The War Crimes Act.

If you are in the military or are a civilian advising on U.S. military operations, read it.
The Nuremberg defense — “I was just following orders” — is not a defense.

18 U.S. Code § 2441 - War crimes | U.S. Code

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 06, 2020, 05:17:42 AM »
Recent tweets from the President of the United States :

After he kills an Iranian general (which is an act of war), he tells Iran not to respond, or else the US would hit cultural sites :

....targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran &  the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD.

which would be a war-crime.

And when Iraq parliament voted that US forces are no longer desired in their country, Trump responded with :

“We have a very extraordinarily expensive air base that’s there...We’re not leaving unless they pay us back for it....We will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever.”

“If they do ask us to leave, if we don’t do it in a very friendly basis. We will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever. It’ll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame.”


I know there has been a lot of pissing on certain Democrats in this forum. Probably deserved.

But can you guys now please join the rest of us and focus our effort on the big Orange Gorilla in the room ?

And getting this lunatic out of the WH and his corrupt Republican party out of power in 2020 ?

Thanks !

The politics / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: January 05, 2020, 09:08:42 AM »
Trump's tweet about striking Iran's cultural sites gained a whopping 182k 'likes' :

....targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran &  the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!

But you know which tweet gained more hits ?

Bernie Sanders, with this tweet : 286k 'likes' :

I was right about Vietnam.

I was right about Iraq.

I will do everything in my power to prevent a war with Iran.

I apologize to no one.

THAT is the next president of the United States.

The rest / Re: SpaceX
« on: January 05, 2020, 05:37:12 AM »
I'm not so sure about the viability of that StarLink endeavor.

Allow me to elaborate :

SpaceX intents to put 12,000 satellite in LEO to provide high-speed internet to the entire planet.
That's a GREAT goal, but when we look at the details, it may not be so useful.

For starters, urban areas (where people live) cover about 3% of land area, or 1% of Earth's surface area. That means that StarLink's satellites will be, for 99% of the time, essentially idle.

For that 1% of the time over urban areas, StarLink would not be able to provide enough bandwidth to cover the needs of millions in these urban areas.

So StarLink would mostly be useful for the 99% of the time it spends over non-urban areas (oceans, mostly).

However, for these remote areas, other satellite services (like Iridium) already provide data service, and StarLink would thus compete with them.

Since bandwidth requirements over that 99% of the Earth surface is not that great, it may be that StarLink's competitive advantage (LEO instead of GEO orbit) creates a "market" that is confined to high-speed requirements of the US Military and high-frequency stock traders.

Not the kind of mass market that SpaceX set out to serve....

As a matter of fact, Bernie Sanders amended this bill with a very clear message to prevent war with Iran :

More precisely, Bernie proposed that amendment.  It wasn't one of the amendments that passed:"status"%3A"Senate+amendment+agreed+to"%7D

Correct. But at least he tried...

As a matter of fact, Bernie Sanders amended this bill with a very clear message to prevent war with Iran :

Remember these names:

"188 Democrats in Congress have also voted for his NDAA with stripped a provision to prevent unauthorized war with Iran."

"Trump's NDAA passed in the Senate 86 - 8.  Check out the "not voting" - 6:
Booker (D-NJ)
Harris (D-CA)
Isakson (R-GA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Sanders (I-VT)
Warren (D-MA) "


Sorry. But let us do some fact checking on that.

For starters, it seems that this (NDAA) vote in the Senate was on bill  S. 1790 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2020 ), voted on June 27, 2019 :

As far as I can see, there is NOTHING in this bill that would have "stripped a provision to prevent unauthorized war with Iran.".

Please let me know if you find otherwise.

[edit] here is the full text of the bill :

Policy and solutions / Re: Robots and AI: Our Immortality or Extinction
« on: January 03, 2020, 05:16:21 AM »
Parts of the story are certainly BS. I'm not certain that all of it was.
I followed it closely when first reported, Sail-Tracker, manufacturer of the 'device', employees ect.
The Cook did slow down to a crawl, then limp into port. Spent some weeks in port, then left the Black Sea (I believe under escort?).
Not sure what occurred, but reasonably sure that something did.

Yes. Something did happen : A Russian journalist (Dmitri Sedov) wrote a satire piece on facebook.

The myth took off from there, via Rossiya-1 (Russia's TV1 network) to the Sun and the Daily Star, and to Fox News (before they took down the piece).

Even the manufacturer of the Khibiny system itself made a serious attempt to stop this nonsense and debunk the myth :

...the manufacturer of the electronic warfare weapons itself announced that the report was false.

The company, known by its acronym, KRET, published an article in February 2015 saying that the Khibiny system was not installed on the particular plane and that while it can neutralize enemy radar, the article that said it completely shut down the American destroyer “is nothing but a newspaper hoax.”

So this was another example of :

A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.

No, Neven. It's vote-blue-no-matter-who or else we get another 4 years of Trump.

Keep voting for neoliberal shills and you'll see much, much worse and dangerous than Trump.

You are scaremongering.

Things aren't standing still, you know. People voted Clinton and Obama into office, ...

Isn't it interesting that you forgot that Bush was elected in between ?

Vote-blue-no-matter-who is the dumbest and most destructive attitude possible.

Here is a reality check : In 2016, many Democrats who wanted Bernie but did not get him stayed at home, or voted Jill Stein.

As a result, Democrats had fewer votes, and Trump won the election.

You want that to happen again in 2020 ?

The worst choice (apart from voting Trump directly) would be to vote third party, or not vote at all, because that's how Trump won in 2016.

That's not how Trump won at all. I know you live in a bubble where you have zero contact with poor Americans, but the least you could do, is stop spreading Corporate Democrat misinformation. More people would have voted Trump than Clinton if Jill Stein and Gary Johnson hadn't been third party candidates, or wouldn't have voted at all.

That is nonsense, Neven.
Trump is destroying every possible environmental protection that Obama put in place, and favors coal over renewable energy.
If you find me ONE Green Party voter who would vote Trump over Clinton, you let me know...

Either way, this is all moot. Sanders is the only one who can beat Trump and offer a path forward. None of the others can, especially the centrist/corporate democrats, because they are beholden to concentrated wealth and will make things even worse than they already are. It's as simple as that, unless you're unable to see through political theatre.

I love Sanders, and have been sponsoring him since 2016. He is my favorite and I told this many times.

But if he does not win the 2020 primaries, then we should :


Otherwise we get another 4 years of Trump.

If my options are center/center left, the far right, or 3rd party, than I will be going center/center left.

But 'center/center left' is right in the US! In fact, it's even worse. It's neoliberal, and neoliberalism (the nr 1 philosophy of concentrated wealth) is the major reason the world is in the state it's in. You can't vote for a continuation of that. So, please, if you are willing to vote third party in certain situations, do so as well when your only option is voting for a corporate neoliberal who is not substantially going to change anything. Because you will lose another 4-8 years for nothing! At least try to protest!

Your attitude is what assures the cheaters they can stab Sanders in the back again. They need to win your vote. Don't give it away so cheaply. It's Sanders or nothing.

No, Neven. It's vote-blue-no-matter-who or else we get another 4 years of Trump.

The worst choice (apart from voting Trump directly) would be to vote third party, or not vote at all, because that's how Trump won in 2016.

Re: "When you are isolationist you are basically saying, "Only my countrymen are able to serve my needs" or "I don't want services from foreigners". This is inherently nationalistic/racist."

You seem to have a different definition of isolationism than I do.

Let me define what i mean by "isolationism" : independence from foreign influence, and refusal to engage in war beyond the nations borders.

Let me explain why I think your "isolationism" is extremely reckless policy and when it pertains to the US (with the world's most power military) will be globally catastrophic.

To see why, imagine most countries of the world (including the US) decide not fight any wars abroad. That means NATO will be dissolved, and the UN will become powerless. So all of the post WWII global stability is eliminated.

This in turn means that any strong country can now invade another weaker country, and nobody would do anything about it.

That is setting the world back to the times before WWI and WWII, when countries and despots were constantly fighting, and and we know what happened next.

So if you want "endless wars", preferably global ones, then "isolationism" is your way to go !

And for the purpose of the 2020 presidential elections, let me add that there is only one candidate that promotes "isolationism" and that is Trump.

NONE of the Democratic candidates (maybe with the exception of Gabbard) is "isolationist".

So for the purpose of global stability and peace : Vote Blue, No Matter Who !

I don't think it would be very politically wise for him to say that if he doesn't become president, it's game over. But I can say it, with no problems. And if you disagree with it, you're just not serious about AGW or all the other systemic problems humanity faces. At all.

Neven, are you alright ?
Because this does not make any sense at all.
At ANY level.

Well - isolationism might be preferable to interfering in everything that's comes visible on the horizon. As to the rest, none of these have ever appeared on my radar.

Isolationism kills.

It kills refugees in Syria, it kills journalists in Russia, it kills human rights activists in Mexico and it kills democracy around the world.

As for "the rest", may you be more aware of your radar in the future.

And yes. Neo-nazi's are "a type".

The politics / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: December 25, 2019, 11:23:36 AM »
<No one-sided, contextless, establishment propaganda, thanks. And also think of the people in Syria being bombed, raped and sold by freedom fighters moderate rebels fundamentalist terrorists, sponsored by Rob's taxes; N.>

[edit] OK, then look at this picture :
You think all these Syrians are just fleeing "contextless establishment propaganda" ?

[edit] And I wasn't aware that my US tax dollars fund "fundamentalist terrorists" who "bomb, rape and sell" people in Syria. So I would appreciate it if Neven would provide some evidence for such grave allegations.

Merry Christmas everyone, and please think of the people in Syria being bombed by Assad and Russia today.

Policy and solutions / Re: Robots and AI: Our Immortality or Extinction
« on: December 24, 2019, 09:04:25 AM »
I posted before that in machine design, it is VERY hard for us to make a machine do something useful.

In fact, the mere fact that there are so many people working in technology fields is an indication that machines are pretty hopeless without us.

This is specifically interesting when people are afraid of AI or even think that machines will be taking over our lives.

To get a better perspective, here is a really good tutorial that explains how neural networks work.

Once you are through this, you should have a much better idea of what 'learning' an AI machine really means.

Also, the more complex machines become, the more dependent they are on us.
Just think for example about the IC manufacturing plants needed to make these complex AI chips.

So maybe this provides some comfort that we are VERY far away from machines or robots to take over our lives.

At BEST, these AI machines will actually help us do our work more efficiently, which should be considered a positive development.

[edit] And at WORST, they don't work. Which means somebody (human) needs to fix them.

But if Sanders doesn't become president, it's game over.

Sanders does not share your polar black/white position.
He believes, as all other candidates apart from Gabbard, in bringing people together :

Only Sanders?  All our eggs in one basket?  No other candidate can be considered acceptable?

Unfortunately, this is the case. No other candidate is acceptable.

What's wrong with Yang ?
And didn't you used to fancy Tulsi Gabbard ? What changed ?

Science / Re: 2019 CO2 emissions
« on: December 23, 2019, 09:11:43 AM »
Nanning, the 30.6 Gton/year is for 2010, as you correctly quoted from

It's now 9 years later, and despite all the hard work to contain the problem, we increased emissions to 36.7 Gton/year (Bruce's quote).

The problem is that this is mostly from the 2 billion or so on this planet with a 'middle class' or higher standard of living.

There are still another 5 billion poor people who would like some reasonable standard of living too, with a place to live that has lighting, heating and/or cooling, a mode of transportation, and a healthy food supply.

We CANNOT do that with fossil fuels, since we will cook (and choke) the planet.

So we better get REAL serious about renewables FAST.

The rest / Re: SpaceX
« on: December 22, 2019, 09:06:15 AM »
Hopefully the Soyuz boys will be willing to provide their services again if called upon. They haven't had a death in space since 1971. 8)

The Russians have been great in providing service runs to the ISS, ever since the Space Shuttle ended.

But SpaceX has serviced the ISS successfully for, what is it, 19 time now ?

So it is time for SpaceX to bring some people aboard.

Policy and solutions / Re: Policy and solutions in the Netherlands
« on: December 21, 2019, 08:56:02 AM »
Thanks gerontocrat. Good overview of fossil fuel emissions in the Netherlands, and it is clear that fossil fuel burning did not reduce much (at all) since 1990.

However, that CBS overview does not include various non-CO2 GHG emissions.
This report presents a more complete overview :

In the graph below, you can see that most gain since 1990 was caused by reduction of non-CO2 GHG emission reductions, such as N2O, methane and F-gases. It may even be 15%.

It is unclear how the Netherlands can reduce GHG emissions by any meaningful (like the 40% pledge) way beyond this without seriously moving away from fossil fuels and towards renewable energy.

Science / Re: 2019 CO2 emissions
« on: December 20, 2019, 08:14:03 AM »
How are we going to stop this ?
Or at least reduce it ?
Or even slow down the increase ?

The politics / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: December 19, 2019, 09:21:26 AM »
They call Browder a 'fraudster'.

RT does. And the Russian state tried real hard to arrest Browder.

But I don't see that Der Spiegel calls Browder a 'fraudster'.

Where did you find that ?

Policy and solutions / Re: Policy and solutions in the Netherlands
« on: December 18, 2019, 11:11:19 AM »
Rob, I don't know what your engineering field is but maybe you have a better view on what the necessary adjustments to our dykes have to be, our protection from the seas, in a hypothetical situation of 2 meter SLR by 2100 and much more severe and frequent storms.

I'm sorry Nanning. I'm an Electrical Engineer. Mostly IC design.
Not much use for assessing Dutch dykes.
But you have excellent engineers who can do that, and you have the monetary means to address these issues.

So I'm not that concerned about Holland and SLR specifically.

More concerned about global SLR and global climate change, and long term energy security for the planet (including long term energy security for the Netherlands).

Policy and solutions / Re: Policy and solutions in the Netherlands
« on: December 18, 2019, 10:36:28 AM »
Thank you Kassy and Nanning.

I understand that the Netherlands does not have many "renewable" options.
There is no altitude, so no hydro power.
There is no geo-thermal hot spot, so no geo-thermal power.
The Netherlands latitude is high, and the sky often cloudy, so solar power is not that popular either, even though I think it would complement wind very nicely.

Tidal and wave energy are a joke, so the only native (non-fossil) energy sources remaining are wind and nuclear.

I understand that the Dutch don't like nuclear too much, so there is only wind, I guess ?

You are not doing bad there :

But the rate of increase from 14% to 16% renewables from 2020 to 2023 is dreadfully slow. At that rate, you will be getting to the target 40% reduction in about 60 years.

Biomass is pushed massively as a 'solution' and is counted as zero emissions. Those coal plants have to keep burning biomass (our government helping the big polluters with our money and policies to stay afloat). The idea is to cut foreign trees, turn them into pellets, ship them to The Netherlands and burn them to heat water into steam.

I thought that planting trees and growing them would be a much more effective way of reducing carbon emissions than chopping them down, transporting them over long distances, and then burning them.

But that's just my opinion.

Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: December 17, 2019, 09:32:03 AM »
Spacex uses Imperial components, while Tesla EV's use metric Si components.

Any thoughts on why Spacex is using Imperial parts while NASA went full Si back in 2007?

Saving money by purchasing over the counter parts isn't acceptable if human lives are put at risk.

Maybe your post belongs in the SpaceX thread ?,2582.msg240839.html#msg240839

Science / Re: 2019 CO2 emissions
« on: December 17, 2019, 09:14:33 AM »
You want to talk about CO2 emissions ?

We are now adding about 1530 Giga ton of CO2 per year to our atmosphere.
And that rate is still increasing.

Some people still think that geo-engineering is a solution.

I think they are nuts.

[edit]Fixed annual emission rate.

Policy and solutions / Re: Policy and solutions in the Netherlands
« on: December 17, 2019, 07:49:04 AM »
I'm sorry guys. I'm a Dutch, but living abroad, so I'm not very familiar with Dutch policy and politics. I am an engineer, and as such I'm really curious how the Netherlands plans to implement the pledge to the Paris agreement.

If you look at the world map, the Netherlands is joining the rest of the EU in the lead to reduce CO2 emissions by 40%.

Other countries like China and the US have insufficient pledges, and there are even countries like Russia, Turkey and Iran that did not even bother to pledge anything, so the EU is clearly in the lead here.

But even with that, how is the Netherlands going to reduce CO2 emissions by 40% ?

Clearly closing some pig farms is not going to do it, and importing Russian gas is not helping either.

Science / Re: 2019 CO2 emissions
« on: December 16, 2019, 08:34:20 AM »
Radiation management that is in direct conflict with PV, or any other energy generation scheme that relies on sunshine.

PV will still work to some extent, just not its rated capacity. Panel prices may drop, but installation, maintenance & cleaning costs will increase as efficiency drops.
Does GW end when solar radiation is throttled back by 10%, 25% or 1/3?

You are way off with your assumptions.

With that kind of reduction, you will drop Earth into a global deep freeze (snowball Earth).

To get some perspective : A doubling of CO2 (from 280ppm pre-industrial to 560ppm in the not too distant future) will cause a 3.7 W/m2 Top Or Atmosphere (TOA) global radiative 'forcing'.
So you would need to drop solar irradiance by 4*3.7= 14.8 W/m2 to compensate. The factor 4 comes from the relation between the surface of a sphere (4*pi*r2) versus the sun illuminating the disk of planet Earth (pi*r2).

Total solar irradiance at TOA is about 1361 W/m2, so to compensate for a doubling of CO2, you only need to reduce solar irradiance by about 1%.

That 1% reduction is VERY hard to do though, and in my opinion would be NUTS to even try geoengineering of that scale, but even if it would be done, it for sure would not significantly impact the efficiency of solar PV installations around the planet.

Policy and solutions / Re: Solar Roadways
« on: December 15, 2019, 09:43:39 AM »
Just for the fun of it, now that we know that putting solar panels in the road is a really bad idea, here is the first serious debunking, from 5 years ago, by Dave @ EEVblog :

Incidentally, Solar Roadways is still around, and they now have their version 4 panels, on which the data has just become available. But let me warn you, it ain't pretty :

And here is Dave debunking a wind power solution from AmericanWind WindWall :

I love this guy. Just using the back of an envelope, with basic physics, he shows why some AGW "solutions" are just fraudulent non-starters.

Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: December 10, 2019, 06:19:33 AM »
A scam is a scam.

What exactly is a scam, Terry ?

Some still operate by moving the ante and changing the game, rather than delivering a winning hand.

You can't lose following this Blackjack System, but it takes a while to deal all the cards so buy into this Texas Hold'em game - EZ Winnings, but while they're settling in, bet the Wheel, a no brainer.

You say you aren't cleaning up yet at the Blackjack table? Look at how well things are going for the Craps shooters - let me tell you a thing or two about those dice. We've the best odds on College Football you've ever seen. Texas Hold'em always been hard, and it's a shame about your Blackjack, but we've a new improved Slot Machine strategy that will knock your socks off.

Not enough time yet for the winning Poker game to have paid off, I said an hour, but it looks like it may take 2 hours, my bad. - Don't miss that Keno Runner, she's been paying off like clockwork & before you know it our Blackjack parlay will pay off big!

It's not gambling, it's gaming - and you are the game that's being hunted.

I'm not really sure what you are smoking, but what does any of this have to do with this thread ?

Don't bet on the Y until S X & 3 are profitable. Don't invest in CyberTrucks until Roadster 2 & the much hyped Semi have shown a profit.
If they can't make money at home, why do you think they'll do better in China - or Germany.

Thanks for the advice, but Tesla is still growing fast, so all your points are moot.

It's nothing new, it's a rolling scam and they all end the same way. All of the principals but one have left the tables, with bundles of cash - who do you think is going to take the fall?

Short sellers ?

Policy and solutions / Re: Policy and solutions in the Netherlands
« on: December 10, 2019, 04:15:10 AM »
2030 was already the end date for the gas field. This has now been pulled forward to mid 2022.

The field will not be dismantled so we can use it if needed in a very cold winter in the 2020s.

At least we acknowledged that we cannot use this resource for much longer then 2030 for a long time. On paper we were committed but nothing much happened but increased earthquake damage forced the politicians hand...then again russian nat gas should be coming soon and that could have factored in but it is not something they talk about.

Russian gas comes with strings attached.
Ask Ukraine how it went to cut these strings.

Austria is another example of a nation that got hooked on Russian gas, especially under FPÖ rule (2017-2019) :

Austria can't cut these strings any more.  They are hooked on Russian gas until Austria starts to rely on their OWN (renewable) energy resources.

Ask Neven when that will happen.

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