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Policy and solutions / Re: UN Climate Agreement - Paris 2015 and beyond
« on: November 18, 2017, 08:26:36 PM »
Title: "COP23: Is Germany losing its role model status on climate?"

http://www.dw.com/en/cop23-is-germany-losing-its-role-model-status-on-climate/a-41431186
Here's why that "role model" is depressingly ridiculous.
Guess where Europe's largest open pit coal mine is located. Not far from COP23. Guess what's dug up there. Brown "coal" (actually something more like peat than black coal) is the most ridiculously dirty and unefficient form of coal, short of burning shit. Guess what they sacrifice for that. The Hambach Forest, a 12000y old growth forest. Only 10% remains.

German brown coal mining has actually increased from 167.7 megatons in 2000 to 178.1 in 2015, by far the largest amount of any nation. Only China (140Mt 2015) is also above 100.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignite

The amazing Amy Goodman of https://www.democracynow.org/ reports from COP23, plus, the mud in Hambach Forest. E.g.:
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/11/17/keep_it_in_the_ground_as
https://www.democracynow.org/2017/11/15/special_report_from_the_occupied_forest

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 17, 2017, 03:57:16 PM »
I said, that they seem to be working together. You can think of it as a joint project.
Right. Thus the accusations of treason. There's the scandal, the -gate in Russiagate.

does that mean that Prigozhin has influence over the Kremlin's foreign policy?
[...]
it's a pretty long shot to say that Prigozhin is part of forming Russian foreign policy.
He is a "general" in Putin's disinfo-psycho war.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 17, 2017, 03:49:00 PM »
BTW, the U.S. also has its troll factories, called "think tanks". Unlike the Russian trolls, they are operating in the open and are even better financed and equipped by the U.S. oligarchy.

They are working so glaringly open that they are not seen for what they are. They are not hiding behind social media fake personae. Some of their slimy trolls even worked for Republican administrations, testified in Congress, discussed in newspapers, ... E.g. Myron Ebell.

Many of us have fought their climate bullshit for many years. These troll factories have innocent names like "Heritage Foundation", "Competitive Enterprise Institute", "Americans for Prosperity", etc. etc.


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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 17, 2017, 03:26:37 PM »
Senators: Kushner 'withheld WikiLeaks and Russia emails'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42019835

Just an innocent oversight?
It strongly indicates consciousness of guilt.

(If the Trump team interactions with Russia were so innocent, why is everybody constantly lying and denying? E.g. why is even the Attorney General risking being accused of perjury?)

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Here's something about the Russian troll factory "attacking" in Finland:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/31/world/europe/russia-finland-nato-trolls.html
They are clearly part of a disinformation war, which is as intensive as during the Cold War.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 17, 2017, 02:28:58 AM »
BTW....the house passed a bill today that makes the wealth gap LARGER.

Now, why would that be? Hint: the same thing that has caused Russiagate.
Was it Citizens United and the dark money of the Kochtopus? Tea Party voters fed up with Tea Party financiers? Whatabout-Hillary philosophers?
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

I wish good luck to all of the Republican candidates that traveled to California to beg for money etc. from the Koch Brothers. Puppets?

3:00 PM - Aug 2, 2015
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/03/us/politics/donald-trump-attacks-as-republican-rivals-court-donors-at-koch-retreat.html

So, then, where would Trump beg for help? Maybe a bit too much of a 40,000 feet view....

Methinks the cause of Russiagate is Trump and his links/dependency to Russian mafia. (Putin prudently seized the opportunity to help humiliate Hillary, his archenemy.)
 And the cause of Trump is a centuries long story:
Donald Trump is the logical outcome of America's fascination with irrationality
[...]
The pilgrims were our founding Puritan forebears. [...]
Fast forward several hundred years later, when the establishment stopped imposing a sense of order, rigor and fact checking on all of these factions, and it got out of control.
[...]
[Q:] How is President Donald Trump the embodiment of Fantasyland?

In almost every way. I started writing this book before he was running for president and turned in the draft before he had the nomination. So he just appeared as a kind of miraculous embodiment of everything I've been writing about.

He promiscuously throws around conspiracies — whatever comes across his mindscape.

It's this absolute seeming indifference to the truth. And whether he is lying or not is sort of not the most salient question. It's that he believes anything that is convenient at that second for him to believe and say.
[...]

People like the Koch brothers aren't fantasists at all. They are among the most reality-based people. [...]

They are cynics who understood how to exploit this easy belief in the untrue to their own ends. That's sort of adjacent to the worry about whether or not we have an operating democracy.
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-october-1-2017-1.4311896/donald-trump-is-the-logical-outcome-of-america-s-fascination-with-irrationality-1.4311993
(About Kurt Andersen's new book, Fantasyland https://www.kurtandersen.com/fantasyland )

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 16, 2017, 08:51:41 PM »
The number of 80,000 posts is .000043 of all posts:

"Facebook’s general counsel, Colin Stretch, said in the written testimony that the 80,000 posts from Russia’s Internet Research Agency were a tiny fraction of content on Facebook, equal to one out of 23,000 posts.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-socialmedia/facebook-says-126-million-americans-may-have-seen-russia-linked-political-posts-idUSKBN1CZ2OI

sidd
Fraction of what content? Including cat videos? Or only political content?

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 16, 2017, 07:43:31 PM »
It is NOT a state owned company, it has NO relation to Putin/Kremlin. It operates in a basically free market.
Hahaaahaha. Free market. Tell that to Magnitzky's widow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky

I think it's far more likely that it's that kind of alt-right network operating here, than that the Kremlin is involved.
It is both. That's the point.

Putin is doing this in many parts of the world. For some harder evidence, look at France. Le Pen's party funded by a Russian bank! https://www.politico.eu/article/marine-le-pen-may-have-lost-france-elections-but-the-kremlin-vladimir-putin-is-winning/

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 16, 2017, 07:25:04 PM »
So, I ask again, does anyone know of some real evidence that it's 'Russia'/Russian government/kremlin behind all this?

Even if it is, or Russian intelligence or whatever, that doesn't mean that 'Russia' needs to be punished. It means that the persons/group who benefited from the actions of the government/FSB/IRA, need to be shown to the world, no matter what their passport is.

And this has to be applied to every form of corruption that is stimulated by concentrated wealth. But most of all, concentrated wealth needs to be deconcentrated by putting a cap on it.
Of course, punishing "the Russians" is secondary. It is about the Trump gang, about a broken democracy with a largely insane populace, about corruption, the globalization of the Russian mafia state, about the last stand of the fossil fuel industry, about our fucking planet, ...

Equating Russian oligarchy (centralized by Putin) with American billionaires (still diverse) is ridicu-lousy whataboutism.

Regarding the evidence: Someone seems to have been asleep last year. E.g. the change in the Republican party platform under Manafort? If this didn't smell fishy back then, just go back to sleep. The publicly known evidence is meanwhile growing exponentially, hard to keep up with. E.g. Papadopoulos. For the rest we have to wait for Mueller finishing his job. Here is a nice list: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/a-timeline-of-the-trump-russia-scandal-w511067

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 16, 2017, 02:53:38 PM »
Important subtle point about the fake stuff:
It is not only to directly influence opinion. It also functions as a sort of psychological questionaire, as click-bait honeypots, so that Big Data (e.g. Mercer-Bannon's Cambridge Analytica) can build a personality profile from these clicks and feed people tailored content. Individualized manipulation.

That's why Fakebook etc. is more than just Hitler's old Volksempfänger.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksempf%C3%A4nger

Great article about our new age of AI propaganda:
https://medium.com/join-scout/the-rise-of-the-weaponized-ai-propaganda-machine-86dac61668b
The Rise of the Weaponized AI Propaganda Machine
There’s a new automated propaganda machine driving global politics. How it works and what it will mean for the future of democracy.

[...]

The web of fake and biased news that Albright uncovered created a propaganda wave that Cambridge Analytica could ride and then amplify. The more fake news that users engage with, the more addictive Analytica’s personality engagement algorithms can become.

Voter 35423 clicked on a fake story about Hillary’s sex-trafficking ring? Let’s get her to engage with more stories about Hillary’s supposed history of murder and sex trafficking.

[...]


Entertaining interview of 2 Russian trolls by Samantha Bee:

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 16, 2017, 01:56:00 PM »
I ask again: How do these numbers (if true and correct) stack up against the totals?
Couldn't find any numbers. Maybe here: https://www.statista.com/statistics/398136/us-facebook-user-age-groups/ -- but I wont create an account there to get the numbers.

Methinks the numbers are telling enough: The Russian disinfo-psycho war campaign had significant impact. I would estimate 1/10 of content the Trumplins consumed came directly from Russia.

But then, the shit that stuck best wasn't Russian, but alt-right Breitbart conspiracy theorist stuff, like the Hillary-Uranium fake scandal (which even infected "leftists" like Jimmy Dore (who couldn't tell Plutonium from Uranium and put his own heat under this crock.))

So Neven...it sounds as though you think that the Russian oligarchs work separately...and not in concert WITH and under the control OF Putin.  Do I understand you correctly?
This seems to be a new Russian disinfo-psycho meme: "It was only private Russian citizens". As if there're any significant Russian actors left who are not under Putins control. Hefaistos is also infected.

Edit-P.S.: Apropos Uranium. I spoke bad of Fox News in a recent comment. Now, they also tried to debunk this BS: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/nov/15/fox-news-anchor-debunks-networks-clinton-uranium-scandal-sparking-fury

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 15, 2017, 10:59:31 PM »
Pokemon Go etc, at RuTube:

"Political talk show with Dmitrii Koulikov from Oct 14, 2017. The guest is the Chief Editor of the TV channel Russia Today Margarita Simonyan."

Part I: https://rutube.ru/video/35f47363af9ce3fd35be7126d3e225ee/
Part II: https://rutube.ru/video/cefd5544d2b1c9e10c2b6ea57a0f3878/

"Note: these videos often load slowly, but then play well."
English subtitle.

Found at The Saker, transcript there. Just watching... :lol:  :-X
Why would this be interesting?  I could as well watch Fox News.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 15, 2017, 01:41:21 PM »
This exchange also shows how insanely polarized and biased some Republican party members have become.
It is worse. They have nothing of substance to contribute, thus they resort to throwing shit at the Democrats. The GOP is almost completely reduced to a bunch of shit throwing chimps. And if you throw enough of it, some will stick. Ask Hillary.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: November 14, 2017, 08:26:34 PM »
[...]
Previously Bellingcat produced a video of the dissipating smoke trail from the Buc that supposedly shot down MH-17 over the Ukraine, only to find that the video was taken prior to MH-17's having been shot down.
[...]
Any link?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary links, as Carl Sagan would have said...

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 14, 2017, 02:37:10 AM »
The Wikileaks stuff is obvious stuff that would have been known to anyone who was watching the campaign.
Like climate science back then. No proof, just theory...
... (grabs popcorn)

"This wikileaks is like a treasure trove" -- Trump
ROTFL :)

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/
The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks
The transparency organization asked the president’s son for his cooperation—in sharing its work, in contesting the results of the election, and in arranging for Julian Assange to be Australia’s ambassador to the United States.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: November 09, 2017, 12:54:33 AM »
New stats being released that reinforce my suspicions:

From September 1-19, 2017, #PuertoRico averaged 82 deaths per day.
From September 20 (day #HurricaneMaria hit) to September 30, 2017, it averaged 117 per day.

 That is 35 more deaths per day on average.

September 2015: 2,242 registered deaths
September 2016: 2,366 registered deaths
September 2017: 2,838 registered death

October, 2015: 2,379 registered deaths
October 2016: 2,353 registered deaths
October 2017: 2,119 registered deaths (but these numbers will be changing bc PR gov't is taking 14 days to register deaths)

 Official numbers attributed to Maria:

20 direct deaths and 31 indirect deaths from Hurricane Maria, and the other 4 are from lepto, PR gov't says. #PuertoRico

From https://twitter.com/julito77/status/928310378425126913.
So, assuming a monthly death toll of below 2400, the aftermath death toll could be above 400.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 09, 2017, 12:45:49 AM »
RussiaGate isn't even covered on FOX and Idiots.  My guess is...that will change in coming weeks/months as Donnie's kids and son-in-law get their Christmas/Easter gifts from Mueller.  There won't be coal in those stockings....that is for sure. 😳
In light of what Susan said and the rather stable Trump poll numbers: Are the numberz correlated to the news station market share?

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: November 01, 2017, 03:08:38 AM »
Reports out that Mueller has filed first charges, likely Manafort.  EVERYTHING you saw from Trump, Fox, the GOP, and their sycophants this week about Clinton and Russia was pure deflection and propaganda, right from the Kremlin playbook.
... plus the Petersburg troll factory:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/putins-pro-trump-trolls-just-targeted-hillary-clinton-and-robert-mueller/
Russian bots and trolls on Twitter have stayed plenty busy lately. In the days before charges against three former Trump campaign officials were unsealed on Monday, Russian influencers tracked by the Hamilton 68 dashboard were pushing stories on Twitter about “collusion” between Russia and Hillary Clinton [...]

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: November 01, 2017, 03:01:28 AM »
Buddy



According to CBC "W" left Nixon in the dirt with a low of 20% in November of 2008, followed closely by Truman at 22%, and they both finished their terms, (in disgrace).


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bushs-final-approval-rating-22-percent/


Terry

... and a 33% approval of Trump (today!) is a disgrace,  not of Trump, but the U.S.A.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017/2018 freezing season
« on: October 31, 2017, 11:16:08 PM »
Being in tropical storm force winds for 24 hours at a time is a new experience for me. It’s a bit unpleasant. I can’t imagine waiting it out in a hide tent (there’s not enough snow for an igloo yet).
Depends on the construction. The Plains Indian tipi is quite storm resistant. Have experienced that: All other tents blown away, the tipi still standing (except one broken pole). Dunno if they have it up there. The Sami in northern Scandinavia and some northern Siberian people also use tents similar to the tipi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavvu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chum_(tent)

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 31, 2017, 08:44:03 PM »
that would be nice  ;)

https://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/donald-trump-news-ticker-id6132479.html


The article doesn't seem to translate, at least in chrome with ad-buster.
I get a black video. It's about the meanwhile viral video I linked on last page here: https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1974.msg132713.html#msg132713

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 31, 2017, 05:17:48 PM »
September 30, 2016: Russian news agency Interfax interviews George Papadopoulos, "One of [...] Donald Trump‘s foreign political advisors since March 2016". Good stuff, actually. But makes it difficult/ridiculous for Trump to distance himself from Papadopoulos.
http://www.interfax.com/interview.asp?id=704556

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 31, 2017, 03:27:25 PM »
Finally, my impression/hunch of last year's Fakebook experience confimed. I called FB a "stupidity amplifier" before the wörd fake news was coined.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/oct/30/facebook-russia-fake-accounts-126-million
Russia-backed Facebook posts 'reached 126m Americans' during US election
[...]
Facebook believes 120 fake Russian-backed pages created 80,000 posts that were received by 29 million Americans directly, but reached a much bigger audience by users sharing, liking and following the posts.
[...]
After appearing before the judiciary committee on Tuesday, representatives for Facebook, Google and Twitter will testify before the Senate and House intelligence committees in back-to-back public hearings on Wednesday.
[...]

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BTW, very ugly stupidity/hate amplification at work regarding the Rohingya crisis in Myanmar:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/29/business/facebook-misinformation-abroad.html

So, this is a global problem. Not just stupid 'merricans played by evil Russians. Yet I'm optimistic that mankind will learn and gain some immunity against this.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 31, 2017, 03:05:36 PM »
Louise Mensch has a new blog piece. Lots of "innuendo" from her contacts to U.S. and European spooks :)

https://patribotics.blog/2017/10/29/exclusive-mueller-has-dozens-of-sealed-indictments-including-on-donald-trump/
Exclusive: Multiple sources with links to the justice and intelligence communities report that Special Counsel Mueller has dozens of sealed indictments against suspects in the Trump Russia scandal. There are now several sealed indictments against Donald Trump personally.
[...]
This article will attempt to summarize some of our reporting on evidence the Special Counsel has before him, and on existing sealed indictments. In a separate story, I will summarize which of my reports have been confirmed by the mainstream media.
[...]
Sources did not specify who was to be indicted under which offense. However, multiple sources did confirm that some categories of offense considered included, variously; espionage, a capital crime; obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice; violations of the Logan Act; lying to the FBI; failure to register under FARA; and RICO, not only in the matter of the Trump Organization, but also for the GOP as a body, taking Ambassador Kislyak’s money at the GOP convention, where both Reince Priebus and Paul Ryan were intercepted on Kislyak’s hot-miked phone.

Donald Trump – RICO over Felix Sater, Bayrock, and other unnamed offenses. Mr. Trump is indicted. He is also under investigation for sexual abuse and human trafficking relating to Trump Models.
[...]

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get shafted again
And how they get shafted now!

(E.g. "Trump's E.P.A. is fine with children eating food tainted by a pesticide derived from a nerve gas." https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/28/opinion/sunday/chlorpyrifos-dow-environmental-protection-agency.html )

And they love it. Poll numbers (still above 30% approval!) are telling that Trump voters don't regret. And will never.

My demographic shift is luckily helped by the opioid crisis, which mainly affects the elderly Crazy White Man. They love Trump's "solution" a la Nancy Reagan: "Just say no!". So easy. It took a Trump to find this. But not working -- and the Trumplins don't want to hear an honest answer why.

Alas those poll numbers actually tell there's also a severe mental health crisis.

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And so it is of paramount importance that those people get an honest answer
That presupposes they want or can appreciate an honest answer.

Too many don't and can't.

In 2011 I had a long chat with an American tourist. One of those elite coast dwellers. Atheist, believing in evolution and steam engine science. He even knew Switzerland on the map (no, not north of Niagara)...

One of those folks the elderly Crazy White Man of flyover America despises and never will listen to or vote for.

I was wondering why the Dems lost the House to the Reps 2010, after the Affordable Care act went through. And indeed "Obamacare" was a major issue. GOP propaganda made them hate it. They want to suffer. Christians fundamentalists worshipping Mammon and hating socialism.

So, methinks the major problem is a death spiral of stupid. The only hope is a demographic shift. Then a Bernie might win next time.

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BTW the bank bailout was started by GWB. 50% believe it was due to Obama (cf. big GWB interview). I said you can blame Obama for not jailing them banksters. But actually methinks he did the prudent thing: Never touch a running system, esp. when it was at the verge of breaking and shows robust signs of recovering. (Firemakers know this)

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 31, 2017, 12:08:57 AM »
Anyone wondering if Terry's password for access to this site has been hacked?
Here.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 30, 2017, 04:29:12 PM »
The indictment against Manafort and Gates is here: https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

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Now y'all made me watch the big Matt Lauer interview with GWB. You should, too.

As a warm up maybe start with Jimmy Kimmel's interview:

My impression: This man has spirit, not just hollow ego like Trump.


Highlights: 15:30 ff. GWB: "Let's talk waterboarding"
34:50 GWB on Katrina: "Detached and uncaring"
At the end: On TARP (his deed, not Obama's).

My impression: This is a grownup man, not just a self-absorbed degenerate sausage like Trump. But sure, GWB had quite an opportunity to grow... Maybe our judgement of Trump would also change when all is done and he got time to reflect. But I seriously doubt that.

If you want to compare presidents, there are two perspectives: The man himself, and the presidency incl. team and the times.

Imagine Trump had minds like Cheney, Rove, Rice, etc. around and not just corrupted and clueless swamp alligators, and not the demented Tea Party "GOP" of today. Plus, stuff happening like 9/11... What an opportunity would that be for a Trump presidency to vastly dwarf the stuff of GWB's presidency. Trump is just a cultural catastrophe, for now, luckily...

Heck, now you made me defend GWB.

BTW, I regard all catholic popes from Pacelli onward to Ratzinger as virtual mass murderers. To be hanged, or better garotted in a condom for incitement to autogenocide. Pacelli even complicit with Hitler. And Mother Theresa an angel of death. Seriously. Others judge them only as naive and ideologically deluded, just like GWB...

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 29, 2017, 09:17:55 PM »
Louise Mensch has a nice collection of "Mueller Meltdown: Trump, Other Suspects Squeal Online Over Charges":
https://patribotics.blog/2017/10/29/mueller-meltdown-trump-other-suspects-squeal-online-over-charges/

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BTW, apropos Russian InfoWars. Louise calls zerohedge.com (often quoted here by the usual suspects) a "Russian outlet"...
More on that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge
Alas the Bloomberg article https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-29/unmasking-the-men-behind-zero-hedge-wall-street-s-renegade-blog is paywalled.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 29, 2017, 06:31:22 PM »
BTW, I also regard the singing Putin as a classical piece of propaganda. (He can't be that bad if he likes to sing? -- Something I once heard about singing Hitler Jugend: "Wo man singt, da lass dich nieder. Böse Menschen kennen keine Lieder".  "Where people sing you can dwell. Evil people don't know songs")

I was seriously thinking about starting a thread "Russian InfoWar". But I won't. My prime exhibit (collected in the Ukraine threads) would be just too disgusting.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 29, 2017, 06:19:52 PM »
I don't like this guy. OK ? I don't like him singing and getting a standing ovation.
It's annoying to say the least.

And I don't understand why Martin posted it. Putin singing seems to have little relation to the Mueller investigation.
Same sentiment here. But methinks it's part of the Russiagate lesson. Look at all the slimy acolytes in the audience. Yuck.

E.g. Gérard Depardieu, whom Putin granted Russian citizenship by executive order.


Sometimes, e.g. right now, I like to look at the Trumputin complex as a huge Italo mafia cinema epos or opera, including singing. Some singing acts are always annoying or boring :)

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 29, 2017, 12:42:38 PM »
Didn't like the Putin video either :) But still better than a singing Trump :) Oh, wait...


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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 29, 2017, 02:18:12 AM »
Putin:
But all of those vows you made
Were never to be
Though we're apart
You're part of me still
For you were my thrill
On Blueberry Hill


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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 29, 2017, 01:39:19 AM »
In Watergate....

Keith Olbermann tweets:
On Mueller: Nixon’s Massacre followed the last Saturday game of the ‘73 World Series. The last Sat. game of the ‘17 World Series is tonight
6:54 AM - 28 Oct 2017
https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/924273270966407168

Fresh popcorn please!


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I don't yet understand why Obama might have been a corporate Democrat. But sure there must be something to it with Hillary: Fox News now wants her on the electric chair for selling uranium to the Russians:
https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/10/26/sebastian-gorka-says-hillary-clinton-should-be-convicted-treason-rosenbergs-those-people-got-chair/218353

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In these times me German also finds it easy to like the elderly GWB. He has evolved from the smirking chimp and developed quite some charm and humor. He can even make jokes about himself and how he messed up sometimes. And Obama also seems to like him.

</sarcasm off>

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 27, 2017, 02:46:34 PM »
Tillerson proves he's working for Putin, ignoring Congress:

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/26/state-department-scraps-sanctions-office/
State Department Scraps Sanctions Office
The Trump administration is three weeks late on Russia sanctions. But it’s killed the office that coordinates them.
[...]
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson eliminated the Coordinator for Sanctions Policy office, which had been led by a veteran ambassador-rank diplomat with at least five staff, as part of an overhaul of the department, former diplomats and congressional sources told Foreign Policy.
[...]
The sanctions office was dissolved after the administration missed a key Oct. 1 deadline to implement new penalties against Russia adopted by Congress in August.

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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: October 27, 2017, 02:26:16 PM »
Wow. Swamp the drain!

Whitefish charges
$332.41 per person for accommodations *each day*
$79.82 per person for food *each day*
and
PREPA waives any claim against Contractor related to delayed completion of work.

https://climatecrocks.com/2017/10/27/puerto-rico-update-breaking/


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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 26, 2017, 07:27:28 PM »
This story seems legit (sans Header & spin), as I'd read earlier of the "New DNC" absolving itself from Fusion gps involvement. Perhaps it is simply meant as a comparison to Trump's "I know nothing", but, it doesn't seem a reasonable thing for the DNC to do.
Yes, legit. But I won't say they are absolving themselves. It may look a bit puzzling that the DNC didn't take advantage of the Fusion GPS work, or, was not made aware of it. But then, that would be not the only screw up of the Dems...

[Edit: added a "not". But see #1474 below]

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 26, 2017, 04:05:04 PM »
Why are the DNC leadership running away from Fusion gps?


AFAIK there is no law, or even much of an ethical breach in seeking out a political opponent's weaknesses. Why is everyone so eager to distance themselves from Steele's reports?


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-25/democrats-abandon-hillary-new-old-dnc-deny-knowledge-trump-dossier-funding
[...]
Sounds a bit like Trump distancing himself from Manafort, Page, Cambridge Analytica, etc. saying he even didn't know them.
Maybe that's exactly what's behind those stories from the rightwing press. Hillary is just as bad!

The zerohedge headline is perhaps more than just sensationalist:
Democrats Abandon Hillary: 'New' & 'Old' DNC Deny Knowledge Of Trump Dossier Funding
It is disqualifying. The story itself looks kosher, and tells nothing about "distancing from Hillary" - because that is stupid tendentious polit bunk.

So I did the litmus test: Do they get climate science right, at least?
Nope. They sell you the well-known junk scientist Jennifer Marohasy's stuff - and nothing else from science, only polit paranoia.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-24/new-climate-study-throws-wrench-global-warming-debate-our-new-technical-paper-will-l

Conclusion: Thus they could as well report about the merits of burning witches. Crap paper.

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: October 24, 2017, 11:53:40 PM »
Do a search on "Buddy Stanford study"
Nope. It's just 10 +/-1 clicks away on page 31. :)

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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« on: October 24, 2017, 11:36:55 PM »
I had a reply #1539 on February 18th of this year.  At the end of that reply is a 14 minute video THAT YOU NEED TO WATCH.
I won't fumble for this. Or is there an easy way to find #1539? (I could do some math to get the thread page number. Is there an easy way to get page 30?)

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The rest / Re: Russia in Ukraine
« on: October 23, 2017, 02:14:07 AM »
Are we positing that some Russian hackers had more influence in Ukrainian politics than the $5B that America bragged of spending prior to the coup?
Indeed. Russian educated engineers can make computers out of shoe strings. Money is relative. (That is actually reflected by U.S. economy carbon efficiency...) Let them brag. :)

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The rest / Re: Russia in Ukraine
« on: October 22, 2017, 02:24:23 PM »
But Russia is not just fighting a physical war.

This is a great article how Russia engages in cyber warfare in Ukraine.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/hunting-the-hackers-how-ukraine-became-russias-test-lab-for-cyberwar-20171017-gz2dtx.html
[...]

Oops, now I klicked this thread I wanted to stay out...
Good!
This article confirms my impression.
Russia's i-war on Ukraine has alas also infected some westerners. That's the advantage: Memes can spread by themselves and infect people who are waiting for them, sort of an active infection. The art is to place the lies at the right spot and moment, and then they spread on their own.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 19, 2017, 04:56:53 PM »
Only a part. On Hillary I've recently seen other smear warmed up (she was lawering for a rapist) - which almost prompted me to dig out her pioneering legal work for children's rights...
Yes, you can blame Obama for the bank bailouts. But that's all.
The "being in bed" is 1/3 true 1/3 smear 1/3 a natural result of working in politics.
Now I gotta run. Please watch the Michael Moore video before you watch another Jimmy Dore.

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 19, 2017, 04:14:08 PM »
Which brings me to point 2: It may be that there's a successful disinformation campaign to smear people like Obama and the Clintons, but isn't the reason it's so successful that there is something there? If you look at the actual policies being implemented, while these people are in power, it's staggering how they contradict the way they present themselves. Expanding (illegal) wars,  bailing out banks, promoting fracking and all of the above energy approaches, pushing trade deals, increasing surveillance, putting black men in jail, lowering taxes for the super-rich, obstructing universal health care for Big Pharma, and so on.
Nonsense, sorry. (If a disinformation campaign is successful there must be something to it? Now I won't dig out that Goebbels quote... Maybe later, I'm on the run.)

"Obstructing universal healthcare" boggles my mind. Where does this come from? Can't be smear (directly) from the right. (Methinks it was either planted by the Russians, or by rightwing undercover agents on the left, or, simply total progressive stupidity.)

One major motivation behind decades of Hillary smear is her long hard fight for universal healthcare. The Affordable Care Act under Obama was a major victory in this direction -- and he admitted it was just a small first step forward. Only now is serious debate of serious healthcare possible. (While the Trumplins want to bomb it back to stone age.)

Required watching:

(Edits done.)

(Hm, nope, just this addendum. Homework: Dig out the CSPAN video where Hillary rationalizes her vote for that GWB thing that opened the way to the last Iraq war.)

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 19, 2017, 04:00:09 PM »
"FBI Implicates Obama & Clinton In Russia Bribery Plot"

No new reporting on this yet, except this opinion piece:
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-10-18/russian-money-talks-america-was-all-ears

So I checked the Hill article a little:
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration
The Obama administration’s decision to approve Rosatom’s purchase of Uranium One has been a source of political controversy since 2015.

That’s when conservative author Peter Schweitzer and The New York Times documented how Bill Clinton collected hundreds of thousands of dollars in Russian speaking fees and his charitable foundation collected millions in donations from parties interested in the deal while Hillary Clinton presided on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.
Schweitzer (meanwhile at Breitbart) has been discredited, and the NYTimes failed at fact-checking him, as I mentioned above.
But the Justice Department and FBI took little credit in 2014 when Mikerin, the Russian financier and the trucking firm executives were arrested and charged.

The only public statement occurred a year later when the Justice Department put out a little-noticed press release in August 2015, just days before Labor Day.
That was when Mikerin pleaded guilty. I.e. the legal proceedings were not yet finished.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-nuclear-energy-official-pleads-guilty-money-laundering-conspiracy-involving
Reported here: https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/4359-us-russian-nuclear-official-pleads-guilty-to-money-laundering

The press took note when he was finally sentenced in December 2015:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-russian-nuclear-energy-official-sentenced-48-months-prison-money-laundering-conspiracy
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-russia/u-s-sentences-russian-nuclear-official-to-four-years-for-bribe-scheme-idUSKBN0TY2V420151215
https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/4719-us-court-sentences-russian-nuclear-official-in-2-1-million-bribery-scheme

There could well be something serious. But the current state of reporting strongly suggests a rewarming of old news and Breitbart style smear to discredit Mueller and Comey: By an utterly surprising coincidence (not!)...
The connections to the current Russia case are many. The Mikerin probe began in 2009 when Robert Mueller, now the special counsel in charge of the Trump case, was still FBI director. And it ended in late 2015 under the direction of then-FBI Director James Comey, whom Trump fired earlier this year.

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Policy and solutions / Re: Resilience to disasters
« on: October 19, 2017, 02:46:50 AM »
The wind farms are back up and working?  Got any sort of a link for that?  It would be good for pushing back against the anti-renewable forces.

2012 news from world master in disaster resilience:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferhicks/2012/11/06/cubas-two-wind-farms-survive-hurricane-sandy/
Cuba's Two Wind Farms Survive Hurricane Sandy
[...]
Both of those wind farms were hit by hurricane Sandy with wind speeds of up to 110 miles per hour and neither of them had any major damage and continued to provide electricity for the local grid.
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Consequences / Re: Hurricane season 2017
« on: October 19, 2017, 12:49:47 AM »
The Comfort's hospital is not the only underused thing there (but well, one birth reported there). Also her water distilling plants seem useless.  (300,000 US gallons (1,100,000 l; 250,000 imp gal) per day)

I suggest using horseback messengers, provided by the Navy, for communication with hospitals on land. And maybe there's a spare helicopter to transport patients.

P.S.: Anybody remember the days of shortwave radio?

And I thought Katrina was ridiculous enough... Luckily the death toll is negligible this time. :(

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The rest / Re: Russiagate
« on: October 18, 2017, 10:11:08 PM »
but I can't watch Stefan Molyneux for very long, because he's an incredibly arrogant
yeah, couldn't make more than a few minutes

climate science denier who has a way of talking as if he's some super-scientist/philosopher who knows everything.
And thus he is disqualified. Climate literacy is my litmus test. Who fails it is a waste of time. Period. Heck, would you trust the ramblings of anybody who believes in witches?

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