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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: September 04, 2017, 01:48:20 PM »
NSIDC SIE totals are up by 14k to 22.367 x 106 km2.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: September 04, 2017, 06:34:17 AM »
JAXA comes in at 22,114,192 km2 for the 3rd.

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Antarctica / Re: Sea Ice Extent around Antarctica
« on: September 03, 2017, 07:08:49 PM »
Looks to me like the sea ice extent took a step downward in August 2016, and stayed down thereafter. An energy distribution change of some kind. What other event or events may be time correlated?

I wrote 'may' because the other events may be earlier or later due to transmission effects and the cause may be a separate matter, but the step nature of the shift is clear. The shift is as interesting a phenomenon as it is frightening.
Do you mean to say September 2016?

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Antarctica / Re: Sea Ice Extent around Antarctica
« on: September 03, 2017, 04:02:06 PM »
NSIDC SIE for Antarctica has really leveled off or stalled. JAXA is similar, but they have not updated for 9-2-2017 yet.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: September 03, 2017, 02:34:03 PM »
NSIDC after a couple days of overall drops, lands at 22.353 x 106 km2, for Sept. 2nd.

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Antarctica / Re: Sea Ice Extent around Antarctica
« on: September 02, 2017, 10:40:06 AM »
Antarctica SIE right now reminds me of a staggering ole' drunk trying to stay on his feet.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: September 02, 2017, 10:35:40 AM »
JAXA comes in at 22,143,633 km2 for Sept. 1st. Down in both hemi's.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: September 02, 2017, 10:27:22 AM »
Or a monster storm could come through at some point during the winter and wipe out half the ice, making a new minimum.  Maybe. The only thing that I am confident in knowing anymore, is that I don't know. Let's enjoy the tranquility while we have it, though.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: September 01, 2017, 02:58:58 PM »
NSIDC comes in at 22.537 x 106 km2 for the 31st. Down 60k.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: September 01, 2017, 05:51:00 AM »
Whatever the cause may be, there is melting near Svalbard.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 31, 2017, 02:37:14 PM »
NSIDC comes in at  22.597 x 106 km2 for the 30th. Up slightly.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: August 31, 2017, 09:34:44 AM »
There has been definite deterioration over the last few days. Aug. 27th-30th.
A lot of darkening in the image before appearing blue on the 30th.
CLICK IMAGE Zoom

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 30, 2017, 02:08:06 PM »
NSIDC comes in at 22.584 x 106 km2 for the 29th. Down ever so little.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 30, 2017, 06:36:16 AM »
JAXA totals are in for the 29th at 22,283,729 km2. Down for a couple days in a row now.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 29, 2017, 02:38:06 PM »
22.608 x 106 km2 is where NSIDC comes in for the 28th. Up a little despite JAXA being down.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 29, 2017, 06:35:58 AM »
JAXA shows Arctic SIE running in place for the most part and Antarctic SIE starting to take another downturn. Although, it does seems to me that the Arctic sea ice is still thinning in some places like the Beaufort Sea. A couple big drops left there, maybe???

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 28, 2017, 02:56:42 PM »
NSIDC SIE is up for the Arctic and down for Antarctica. The total is 22.567 x 106 km2.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 27, 2017, 02:45:46 PM »
NSIDC totals for the 26th add up to 22.543 x 106 km2.  The Antarctic SIE dropped more than the Arctic gained.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 26, 2017, 02:10:07 PM »
NSIDC totals for the 25th add up to 22.579 x 106 km2. One of those rare occasions of late with both numbers down.

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The rest / Re: Article links: drop them here!
« on: August 26, 2017, 03:15:50 AM »
Switzerland landslide: Are the Alps melting?

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41049827


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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 25, 2017, 03:19:04 PM »
NSIDC totals for the 24th add up to 22.694 x 106 km2. Down 65 k.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 24, 2017, 03:25:49 PM »
NSIDC totals for the 23rd add up to 22.759 x 106 km2. Actually down slightly.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 23, 2017, 03:40:17 PM »
NSIDC totals for the 22nd add up to 22.774 x 106 km2.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 22, 2017, 01:56:47 PM »
NSIDC totals for the 21st add up to 22.609 x 106 km2.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 21, 2017, 02:53:13 PM »
NSIDC totals in at 22.514 x 106 km2.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 20, 2017, 11:37:19 AM »
JAXA lands at 22,263,805 km2 for the 19th.

NSIDC numbers total 22.466 km2 for the 19th.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 19, 2017, 04:29:26 PM »
NSIDC totals to 22.44 x 106 km2 for the 18th. Down 43k.

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Antarctica / Re: Sea Ice Extent around Antarctica
« on: August 19, 2017, 01:07:23 PM »
Tigertown, where have you opened the global sea ice extent thread please? Thanks.

It is under The Rest category.  http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2136.0.html

My namesake is from the development I live next to, so I am no expert on cats, despite the limited coincidental knowledge that I have of them. I would guess a Bengal Tiger.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 18, 2017, 04:00:01 PM »
NSIDC total is 22.483 x 106 km2. JAXA comes in at 22,229,087 km2. Both up just a tad.

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The rest / Re: Article links: drop them here!
« on: August 18, 2017, 04:58:57 AM »
Poland storms kill six, destroy tens of thousands of trees

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40959863

Make sure to look at the video footage.


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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: August 18, 2017, 04:26:35 AM »
Assuming this smoke settles on the ice, would its presence increase insolation related melt next melt season?
You gotta think it would at some point in time next year. Probably not by itself, but with a little help from some other factor that exposes it again. That factor could be a number of things, rain being one.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: August 18, 2017, 03:29:46 AM »
Whether a picture is worth a thousand words, I don't know, but this one ought to be worth a right smart of them.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: August 17, 2017, 05:55:33 PM »
 meddoc
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That's why I say as aPhysician, You have got to look at physical Status as well, not just numbers & parameters.
Extreme Weather Frequency and Severity & collapsed Jestream & crossing the Equator indicate significantly worse State of Arctic Ice.
In other words holistic ice diagnostics.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 17, 2017, 03:22:04 PM »
NSIDC numbers are in for the 16th. SIE for the Arctic is 5.310 x 106 and for the Antarctic is 17.171 x 106. Total being 22.481 x 106 km2. Again, down ever so little.

Looking at Antarctic SIE, mentally extrapolating the graph, I look for a peak very early in September.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 17, 2017, 06:35:33 AM »
JAXA lands at 22,225,953 km2, down by a mere 222 km2.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 16, 2017, 02:07:12 PM »
NSIDC is up, landing at 22.498 x 106. Antarctic sea ice gained more than the Arctic lost.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 16, 2017, 05:36:30 AM »
JAXA extents add up to 22,226,175 km2. Down ever so little.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 15, 2017, 03:59:35 PM »
NSIDC is at 22.451 x 106 km2. Up somewhat, and the Arctic sea ice extent actually contributed to the increase.

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Antarctica / Re: Sea Ice Extent around Antarctica
« on: August 14, 2017, 11:22:27 PM »
 gerontocrat
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But - if the Antarctic max is early, and as is also very possible, the Arctic min staggers along through September, whither the global sea ice extent ?
"I want to know".
Maybe the Arctic doesn't even get any real freezing momentum until October. Hence the global extent thread that I just started. I could be wrong, but I think that to be the thing to watch.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 14, 2017, 04:17:44 PM »
Down another 48,000 km2 per NSIDC, leaving the total at 22.347 x 106.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 14, 2017, 05:51:16 AM »
JAXA numbers are in for the 13th and doing the math, roughly, global sea ice extent is down by another 70k plus. Will be interesting to see what the NSIDC numbers show when these come in. Any combination than has greater losses than gains leaves global extent down. Basic math, sure, but we are now in uncharted territory. This can easily continue with minor exceptions for a couple months.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: IJIS
« on: August 14, 2017, 01:08:33 AM »
Ok, that resolves that. oren's in charge of payroll.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: August 13, 2017, 10:48:36 PM »
Ok. Had to look for, since it has been a while, but here it is.
http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1932.50.html#lastPost

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Global Sea Ice Extent According to NSIDC
« on: August 13, 2017, 10:42:15 PM »
You really have to look at the year to year chart to get the overall idea, which is why it is the one seen the most.

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Arctic sea ice / Global sea ice area and extent data
« on: August 13, 2017, 10:38:34 PM »
I think this to be important overall, but especially interesting to watch over the next few months. As the extent around Antarctica sputters trying to making nominal gains, the Arctic chugs away at making losses. By the time the Arctic starts freezing, Antarctica's sea ice will start to drop in extent. If the Arctic freezing season is very slow at all about taking off, Wipneus' global extent chart could see larger gaps developed than ever imagined. I expect it(+related charts) to be a main feature in this thread, though if some one wants to do a JAXA chart, that would be great also.

Here we can see how the global extent starts to tail off over the last couple of years or so. I can't help but wonder what far reaching effects this may have on weather.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: August 13, 2017, 10:20:13 PM »
OT for this thread.
It is kind of hard to say anymore. After the effect last year's snowfall had.

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The rest / Re: Article links: drop them here!
« on: August 13, 2017, 05:03:49 AM »
More than 100 million trees destroyed in California forests

Scientists in California say a plague of beetles is a worrying new factor that's killing trees on a scale never seen before.
www.aljazeera.com/video/news/2017/08/100-million-trees-destroyed-california-forests-170812110628258.html

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The rest / Re: 2017 open thread
« on: August 12, 2017, 03:02:01 PM »
Global NSIDC sea ice extent is down another 88k.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: The 2017 melting season
« on: August 12, 2017, 08:04:21 AM »
I don't know. I mean, it's not like any current export is cooling the waters off to the south like in past years.

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