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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 25, 2020, 04:57:21 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 24th, 2020:
     13,491,629 km2, an increase of 19,207 km2.
     2020 is 13th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 24, 2020, 06:13:36 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 23rd, 2020:
     13,472,422 km2, an increase of 89,929 km2.
     2020 is 13th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 23, 2020, 05:01:35 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 21st, 2020:
     13,332,633 km2, an increase of 40,141 km2.
     2020 is 11th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

Interesting statistical bit to note - the 6th through 15th years on that chart lie in a band only 250k km2 wide, with 2020 right about square in the middle of it.  Still deciding what meaning it has to over all system behavior.
I wonder if this is the time when more ASI implies that the ocean loses less heat. The worst September minimums seem to have more ice now. But I never know what is going to happen in September. So let's wait and see.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 23, 2020, 04:51:01 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 22nd, 2020:
     13,382,493 km2, an increase of 49,860 km2.
     2020 is now 13th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 22, 2020, 05:06:03 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 21st, 2020:
     13,332,633 km2, an increase of 40,141 km2.
     2020 is 11th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 21, 2020, 05:48:31 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 20th, 2020:
     13,292,492 km2, an increase of 31,698 km2.
     2020 is 11th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 20, 2020, 05:08:12 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 19th, 2020:
     13,260,794 km2, an increase of 86,500 km2.
     2020 is now 11th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 19, 2020, 06:48:45 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 18th, 2020:
     13,174,294 km2, an increase of 54,155 km2.
     2020 is 9th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 18, 2020, 05:46:14 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 17th, 2020:
     13,120,139 km2, an increase of 56,898 km2.
     2020 is now 9th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 17, 2020, 06:13:40 AM »
I wish that Geron and Juan could report on ice areas and extents as large as they were in the 1970s.....

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 17, 2020, 06:04:40 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 16th, 2020:
     13,063,241 km2, an increase of 48,487 km2.
     2020 is 8th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Science / Re: Carbon Cycle
« on: January 16, 2020, 06:39:25 AM »
Quote
Mid-Pleistocene transition in glacial cycles explained by declining CO2 and regolith removal
M. Willeit,*, A. Ganopolski, R. Calov and V. Brovkin

Abstract
Variations in Earth’s orbit pace the glacial-interglacial cycles of the Quaternary, but the mechanisms that transform regional and seasonal variations in solar insolation into glacial-interglacial cycles are still elusive. Here, we present transient simulations of coevolution of climate, ice sheets, and carbon cycle over the past 3 million years. We show that a gradual lowering of atmospheric CO2 and regolith removal are essential to reproduce the evolution of climate variability over the Quaternary. The long-term CO2 decrease leads to the initiation of Northern Hemisphere glaciation and an increase in the amplitude of glacial-interglacial variations, while the combined effect of CO2 decline and regolith removal controls the timing of the transition from a 41,000- to 100,000-year world. Our results suggest that the current CO2 concentration is unprecedented over the past 3 million years and that global temperature never exceeded the preindustrial value by more than 2°C during the Quaternary.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/5/4/eaav7337

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 16, 2020, 04:53:13 AM »
Keep up the great work, geron and Juan...sounds like a 70s pop group
GERON AND JUAN!!!
But I thank you for the thankless (not anymore) daily task!

Plus one - many thanks for all the regular data - hard work and much appreciated !
You are welcome.  :)

[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 15th, 2020:
     13,014,754 km2, an increase of 95,612 km2.
     2020 is now 8th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 15, 2020, 04:58:32 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 14th, 2020:
     12,919,142 km2, an increase of 83,749 km2.
     2020 is now 6th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Policy and solutions / Re: Greta Thunberg's Atlantic crossing
« on: January 14, 2020, 07:27:54 PM »
https://www.tonyattwood.com.au/

From my clinical experience I consider that children and adults with Aspergers Syndrome have a different, not defective, way of thinking.

The person usually has a strong desire to seek knowledge, truth and perfection with a different set of priorities than would be expected with other people. There is also a different perception of situations and sensory experiences. The overriding priority may be to solve a problem rather than satisfy the social or emotional needs of others.

The person values being creative rather than co-operative.

The person with Aspergers syndrome may perceive errors that are not apparent to others, giving considerable attention to detail, rather than noticing the “big picture”.

The person is usually renowned for being direct, speaking their mind and being honest and determined and having a strong sense of social justice.

The person may actively seek and enjoy solitude, be a loyal friend and have a distinct sense of humour.

However, the person with Aspergers Syndrome can have difficulty with the management and expression of emotions.

Children and adults with Aspergers syndrome may have levels of anxiety, sadness or anger that indicate a secondary mood disorder. There may also be problems expressing the degree of love and affection expected by others. Fortunately, we now have successful psychological treatment programs to help manage and express emotions.
Great comment. 10 likes! (if I could give them).  ;)

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Consequences / Re: Wildfires
« on: January 14, 2020, 12:16:45 PM »
Quote
More than 1 million fires in Australia
detected by satellites since September

By Harry Stevens Jan. 10, 2020

Australia’s ruinous fire season can be seen from space. NASA’s satellites have spotted more than a million infrared heat signatures — telltale signs of fires — across the country since the beginning of September.

The fires have largely been concentrated in the southeastern state of New South Wales, home to Sydney, where authorities last week declared a state of emergency for the third month in a row. At least 25 people have died, and the persistent burning has devastated forests, destroyed thousands of homes, and killed millions of animals — more than a billion, by one estimate.

NASA’s satellites, which identify active hotspots by measuring their infrared emissions, have spotted far more fires this season than any since 2013.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/australia-fires/

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 14, 2020, 04:49:08 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 13th, 2020:
     12,835,393 km2, an increase of 21,856 km2.
     2020 is now 5th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with September lowest min (2012, 2019, 2016, 2007) & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 13, 2020, 04:53:46 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 12th, 2020:
     12,813,537 km2, a century increase of 102,999 km2.
     2020 is now 7th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 16 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007) and 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 12, 2020, 06:36:19 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 11th, 2020:
     12,710,538 km2, an increase of 46,164 km2.
     2020 is 5th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007) and 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 11, 2020, 05:00:30 AM »
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007) and 2020.
Since we are in the freezing season, it is also interesting to check the years following the minimums.
Hi etienne.

I have been including 15 years on the graph because 2012 is the most important of all the years and it is now in that position. I usually include less years on the graph, to make easy to follow the lowest years on each day. In a way, the ADS lines are thin, so I also highlight some years, not always the same.

In which years are you interested?

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 11, 2020, 04:53:25 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 10th, 2020:
     12,664,374 km2, a drop of -12,614 km2.
     2020 is now 5th lowest on record (and back to under 2010's average).
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007) and 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 10, 2020, 05:11:19 AM »
They took a little more time than normal. Now I have a clue of why, but not yet of where...

[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 9th, 2020:
     12,676,988 km2, a drop of -22,885 km2.
     2020 is now 7th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007) and 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 09, 2020, 05:09:46 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 8th, 2020:
     12,699,873 km2, an increase of 41,200 km2.
     2020 is now 8th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007) and 2020.

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The rest / Re: Arctic Café
« on: January 08, 2020, 07:29:31 PM »
Continuing with this subject:
Quote
Australia ranked worst of 57 countries on climate change policy

Australia is the worst-performing country on climate change policy, according to a new international ranking of 57 countries. The report also criticises the Morrison government for being a “regressive force” internationally.

The 2020 Climate Change Performance Index, prepared by a group of thinktanks comprising the NewClimate Institute, the Climate Action Network and Germanwatch, looks at national climate action across the categories of emissions, renewable energy, energy use and policy.

Across all four categories, Australia was ranked as the sixth-worst performing of the 57 countries assessed.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/11/australia-ranked-worst-of-57-countries-on-climate-change-policy#maincontent

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The rest / Re: Arctic Café
« on: January 08, 2020, 07:14:41 PM »
Will AGW view of Australian government change, after these horrible bush fires?
Quote
There’s a political storm brewing in Australia, as well. In its epicenter is conservative Prime Minister Scott Morrison, who has been criticized not just for his initial lax handling of the crisis — he was on holiday in Hawaii as his nation burned — but, more importantly, for his broader resistance to political measures aimed at mitigating climate change. Morrison remains infamous for a stunt he pulled in 2017, when, as Australia’s treasurer, he showed up to a session of Parliament brandishing a lump of coal and a message to his colleagues not to be “scared” by fossil fuels.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/01/08/apocalyptic-wildfires-may-force-climate-reckoning-australias-conservative-leader/

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 08, 2020, 05:01:07 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 7th, 2020:
     12,658,673 km2, an increase of 37,648 km2.
     2020 is now 7th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the today's 15 lowest years.
     Highlighted the 4 years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007) and 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 07, 2020, 05:04:07 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 6th, 2020:
     12,621,025 km2, an increase of 18,774 km2.
     2020 is 8th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the 15 lowest years on Jan 6th (coincidentally 2006 to 2020).
     Highlighted the 4 years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019, 2016 & 2007) and 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 06, 2020, 05:28:04 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 5th, 2020:
     12,602,251 km2, an increase of 24,929 km2.
     2020 is 8th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the 11 lowest years on Jan 5th (coincidentally 2010 to 2020).
     Highlighted the years with ADS lowest minimum (2012, 2019 & 2016) and 2020.

     Edit: Coincidentally also, the 15 lowest years on Jan 5th are the 15 last years: 2006 to 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Null School Sea Surface Temperature Anomalies
« on: January 05, 2020, 05:09:18 AM »
Just to include today's image and link for future follow-up:
https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/ocean/primary/waves/overlay=sea_surface_temp/orthographic=18.09,75.85,1914/loc=5.573,77.895

Haha, no! :)

There is no sea ice Juan. Every sea ice north/north-west of Svalbard is melting immediately once it comes into the vicinity. Which means, it's still pretty warm there and the new data might be flawed.
When I look at the same point that I had on March 12, 2019, I find 3°C instead of 14.5°C, so I could agree that there is not hot spot anymore. But it also surprise me that there is no waves on the old hot spot. So I don't know how to interpreted that. I know that we don't have ice yet, but why we don't have waves?

Edit: I just notice that in all the images that I posted before, there are no waves on them. So I don't know what to think…  ???

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 05, 2020, 04:52:07 AM »
Topic unlocked again.

Thank you, Neven.  :)

[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 4th, 2020:
     12,577,322 km2, an increase of 50,485 km2.
     2020 is 8th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the 10 lowest years (2010 to 2020, except for 2012).
     Highlighted: 2016 & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: Null School Sea Surface Temperature Anomalies
« on: January 04, 2020, 05:22:14 AM »
As spotted by Freegrass, Nullschool have changed their data source and lo and behold the incredible Svalbard hot spots are gone.

This effectively closes out this thread.  :)
It could be that with the new source, the hot spot is starting to have Arctic sea ice above, so we can't see the heat. So lets wait until there is ocean again. Let's say May or June, before we can be sure that the hot spots are gone.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 04, 2020, 05:11:09 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 3rd, 2020:
     12,526,837 km2, an increase of 52,112 km2.
     2020 is 8th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the 10 lowest years (2010 to 2020, except for 2012).
     Highlighted: 2016 & 2020.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 03, 2020, 03:42:53 PM »
New year, new  thread…  :)
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,2975.0.html#new
I locked the "2020 Sea ice area and extent data" by mistake. I thought I was putting it as a headline on "Arctic sea ice" but what it happened is that we can not make a new post on it.
So I suggest that we use this 2019 thread as the one to put new posts and wait until Neven or Dungeonmaster fix the problem.

Or Gerontocrat can open a new thread and we forget the one that i opened.

Sorry…  :-[

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 03, 2020, 04:51:49 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 2nd, 2020:
     12,474,725 km2, an increase of 42,505 km2.
     2020 is 8th lowest on record.
     In the graph are the 10 lowest years (2010 to 2020, except for 2012)
     Highlighted: 2016 & 2020.

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Policy and solutions / Re: Greta Thunberg's Atlantic crossing
« on: January 02, 2020, 04:35:10 PM »
Greta starts the year with this retweet. I really like the postcast and I recommend to hear it:

https://twitter.com/jrockstrom/status/1212321310275252225?s=20

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 02, 2020, 05:13:39 AM »

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Arctic sea ice / 2020 Sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 02, 2020, 04:58:28 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

January 1st, 2020:
     12,432,220 km2, an increase of 77,710 km2.
     2020 starts the year being the 8th lowest on record.
     The 10 lowest years: 2010 to 2020, except for 2012!!!  ;)
     2012 is the 16th lowest year, with 12,746,295 km2, 314,075 above 2020.
     I highlighted 2020. It is not easy to see at the original ADS graph.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: January 01, 2020, 05:03:19 AM »
Thank you, Mabarnes and MrGreeny, for your posts.
Happy 2020 everybody!!!  :)

[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 31st, 2019:
     12,354,510 km2, an increase of 67,145 km2.
     2019 is now 7th lowest on record.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 31, 2019, 01:48:42 AM »
I will be traveling on the next 7 hours, so I will appreciate if someone else updates the ADS JAXA data.

Thank you.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 30, 2019, 04:57:13 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 29th, 2019:
     12,249,504 km2, a drop of -10,315 km2.
     2019 is 6th lowest on record.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 29, 2019, 04:35:38 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 28th, 2019:
     12,259,819 km2, an increase of only  164 km2.
     2019 is now 6th lowest on record.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 28, 2019, 06:21:43 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 26th 2019:
    12,214,161 km2 an increase of 74,633 km2


Juan's post will be coming soon.

Sorry that I missed to post yesterday. I am having holiday on California with my family and we drove yesterday from Los Angeles to San Francisco. With a dense traffic and another distractions, a 7 hour journey end up being 14 hours. Other than that, the holiday is great.  :)

[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 27th, 2019:
     12,259,655 km2, an increase of 45,494 km2.
     2019 is 8th lowest on record.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 26, 2019, 06:42:42 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 25st, 2019:
     12,139,528 km2, an increase of 75,369 km2.
     2019 is 8th lowest on record.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 25, 2019, 07:27:58 AM »
Dec 24 & 25 JAXA Extent back up, or now up, or ... here they are:

Dec 23 - 11,985,836    - gain of 122,375
Dec 24 - 12,064,159    - gain of   78,323

A cold wind from Santa's sleigh to the ice...?  Merry Christmas!
Thank you for your post, mabarnes.  :)
Merry Christmas!

[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 24st, 2019:
     12,064,159 km2, an increase of 78,323 km2.
     2019 is now 8th lowest on record.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 24, 2019, 05:26:37 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 23st, 2019:
    I have not been able to retrieve the new data. I'm going to bed.
    If someone else updates the values.
    Thank you!  :)
https://ads.nipr.ac.jp/vishop/#/extent

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 23, 2019, 04:46:10 AM »
Thank you for keeping us up to date, Juan.  :)
It is one of the few days in 2019 with a daily value (slightly) above the 2010s average.
You are welcome, Stephan.  :)

[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 22st, 2019:
     11,863,461 km2, an increase of 81,128 km2.
     2019 is now 7th lowest on record.

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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 22, 2019, 05:27:46 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 21st, 2019:
     11,782,333 km2, a century increase of 100,865 km2.
     2019 is now 6th lowest on record.

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But I do not need supercomputers to know that there will be no hysteresis without feedbacks.

And I find it highly misleading when the IPCC then states that consensus of such limited models could be expressed in ordinary language as "conclusions with high confidence". In fact, I find that infuriating and totally irresponsible.
I agree. Too many feedback loops that are not taking into account. I am profoundly concern of what is going to happen in 2030 or maximum 2050. The IPCC discussing 2100 is too far away. And that is an strategy. Discussing something that it is too far away to worry about it.

IPCC = Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. It is a scientific panel but must of all, it is a governmental panel. It is naive to consider that Trump or the fossil fuel industries are not affecting the IPCC reports.

There has to be a tug of war inside the IPCC.


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Arctic sea ice / Re: 2019 sea ice area and extent data
« on: December 21, 2019, 04:46:14 AM »
[ADS NIPR VISHOP (JAXA)] Arctic Sea Ice Extent.

December 20th, 2019:
     11,681,468 km2, an increase of 66,597 km2.
     2019 is 5th lowest on record.

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Consequences / Re: Forests: An Endangered Resource
« on: December 20, 2019, 08:38:53 PM »
Quote
Top scientists warn of an Amazon ‘tipping point”

Continued deforestation and other fast-moving changes in the Amazon threaten to turn parts of the rainforest into savanna, devastate wildlife and release billions of tons carbon into the atmosphere, two renowned experts warned Friday.

“The precious Amazon is teetering on the edge of functional destruction and, with it, so are we,” Thomas Lovejoy of George Mason University and Carlos Nobre of the University of Sao Paulo in Brazil, both of whom have studied the world’s largest rainforest for decades, wrote in an editorial in the journal Science Advances. “Today, we stand exactly in a moment of destiny: The tipping point is here, it is now.”

Combined with recent news that the Arctic permafrost may be beginning to fill the atmosphere with greenhouse gases, and that Greenland’s ice sheet is melting at an accelerating pace, it’s the latest hint that important parts of the climate system may be moving toward irreversible changes at a pace that defies earlier predictions.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/top-scientists-warn-of-an-amazon-tipping-point/2019/12/20/9c9be954-233e-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html?utm_campaign=news_alert_revere&utm_medium=email&utm_source=alert&wpisrc=al_news__alert-hse--alert-national&wpmk=1

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