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Policy and solutions / Re: Oil and Gas Issues
« on: July 19, 2019, 10:20:58 PM »
Wasn't it the capture of a loaded Iranian tanker a week or so ago by the UK that began this tit for tat?
Terry


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The rest / Re: Unsorted
« on: July 19, 2019, 10:11:59 PM »
Meh depression is when you don´t do all kind of stuff which would be good to do. It is not an advantage. Also you are much more likely to ruminate in non-constructive circles.

On a more general not we might be designed to be not satisfied...always other places to go which is different from our near relatives. Maybe it fits that we get depressed if we are stuck in a spot somehere?


Weren't there experiments some decades ago where they overcrowded rats and found they became depressed as well as aggressive? If isolation and overcrowding both lead to depression, perhaps the evolutionary advantage is that we evolved to live in proximity to each other without overcrowding or isolation.


Terry

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Consequences / Re: Climate change, the ocean, agriculture, and FOOD
« on: July 19, 2019, 09:59:01 PM »

I have noticed it here in a Michigan.  In Michigan, the typical harvest start for sweet corn is Aug 1.  Illinois may be a week or so earlier, so this is nothing new.  Although most corn grown in Illinois is feed corn.
Thanks Kat


My health's been lousy and I haven't been shopping for months so I really don't really know what the situation is here in Canada. My better half hasn't noticed anything out of the ordinary.


One would think that this would be the season for abundant crops, but the modern system of "just in time" warehousing may preclude large stores of surplus.


If canned beans and corn are in low supply now it might be a problem come winter.
Terry

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Walking the walk / Re: When was the last flight you took?
« on: July 19, 2019, 09:43:01 PM »
Woops


I answered the poll before reading the thread. I'd answered >10 as I recalled my return flight from Toronto to Havana in 2005. What I forgot was 2 one hour sightseeing flights about Kenora in a vintage "Beaver" float plane (1948), one was in 2004, but the second one was in 2011.


All of the flights were for frivolous reasons.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Climate change, the ocean, agriculture, and FOOD
« on: July 19, 2019, 09:21:16 PM »
The author of this piece is suspect, but because even a broken watch is accurate twice a day let me ask my American friends if they have noticed canned food shortages where they shop.


The article shows a number of store shelves where the shops are blaming crop failure for their inability to stock canned goods. I haven't experienced anything similar here in Canada, but I'm curious about the situation in the States.


It's probably BS, but if not it might be important.


http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/so-it-begins-due-to-a-poor-harvest-season-we-are-experiencing-shortages-on-many-of-our-canned-vegetable-items
Thanks
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: July 19, 2019, 09:08:58 PM »
Ken


What you describe sounds much more like a generator - used to produce electrical energy, than a battery - used to store electrical energy.
Isn't this more closely related to a piezo device that can be used to generate electricity from temperature differences than a battery that might accept such a charge?


Terry

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Consequences / Re: Prepping for Collapse
« on: July 19, 2019, 01:39:28 AM »
What are we "prepping" for?


If the grid works intermittently batteries and solar/wind turbines should smooth out some of the dips. State infrastructure will decay rapidly as hoarding replaces industry. Pockets of resistance to governments that can no longer provide security, sustenance or sustainability will be dealt with harshly - until they can't be dealt with at all.
Then the grid disintegrates.


When the grid is down permanently I can't believe that any State of any size will remain viable. Mad Max - with some generations existing on salvage, followed by or concurrent with some Neolithic/Paleolithic mix.


How many generations before we see successful City States capable of perpetuating themselves? How many more generations while unwashed "hill people" swarm, conquering and destroying all that the "civilized" have built and hoarded?


Teach your children welding. Teach them about germs. Assume they'll be migratory. Demonstrate reciprocity and affability. Teach them to repair, reuse, repurpose.
With great good luck your line might possibly survive.


Without an almost permanent grid we lose the internet. Paper books will be hoarded as the only source of stored knowledge. Wise men and wise women will be seen as wonderful assets - until something goes wrong and they're seen as witches and demons.


I see a massive bottleneck coming from which our species may or may not survive.
Preparations made now may or may not help. :'(
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Global Surface Air Temperatures
« on: July 18, 2019, 11:59:49 PM »
No surprise but another dataset with June 2019 as the warmest June on record.  NOAA(NCDC) came in at +0.95°C for June 2019.  This is just above 2016's +0.93°C.


It's good that AGW's effects are seen primarily during the winter months. ???


Is the Southern Hemisphere having a melt down while we in the north feel little effect, or are long hot summers adding to our AC usage?


It's been some time since Canada's winter heating bills have exceeded our summer cooling expense. I'm old enough to remember the 1st residential AC unit installed locally, now the meters spin more rapidly in July than in February.


Will Alaska soon be following our lead?
Terry


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: July 18, 2019, 09:57:22 PM »
Indonesia's President announced plans to transition the country from coal to renewables.

https://news.mongabay.com/2019/07/indonesias-president-signals-a-transition-away-from-coal-power/


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That a transition away from coal is even being discussed at the highest levels of government marks a major change in tone from longstanding energy policies that have relied on an abundance of cheap and available coal. In fact, Indonesia’s coal reserves have made it one of the world’s biggest exporters of the commodity over the course of the last 15 years.




Exporting coal is even "dirtier" than burning it.
The same GHGs are emitted when it's mined and finally burned with the addition of the environmental costs of shipping.

Energy derived from imported/exported coal is probably the dirtiest energy available. We rail against burning coal, yet are strangely mum about the larger problem of importing or exporting coal.


Bulk transportation of coal isn't just dirty, it's so dangerous that it can ignite wars!
Remember The Maine!!


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Coal
« on: July 18, 2019, 08:25:21 AM »
Now we need to ban coal exports.


Should be much easier to leave it in the ground now that the electrical producers won't be throwing their lobbyists into the fray.


Can a Democratic congress pull it off?

Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Low GHG Meat
« on: July 15, 2019, 08:20:13 AM »
What are the downsides? Because it sounds too good to be true.

My biggest concern is that the scientists will try to "improve" on meat and end up with something bad for us. Historically, that seems to happen whenever they start messing with a natural food.

For instance, they tried to "improve" butter by getting rid of that nasty saturated fat and replacing with trans-fat. Then it turned out that trans-fat is seriously bad for you, and many are arguing that saturated fat never was so bad after all.

For instance, they tried to "improve" rice by grinding off the outer hull to improve shelf-life. They part did work, but they also removed lots of nutrition. Turns out brown rice is healthier than white rice, and many people got beriberi till they figured out what was going on.

So I worry that the scientists won't be able to grow meat exactly the way it comes from animals, and even if they could, I worry that they will try to change it on purpose to "improve" it. Given the dismal track record of food scientists, I don't trust them.


Ramen!!
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Places becoming more livable
« on: July 15, 2019, 07:58:25 AM »
I believe the Waterloo Region in Ontario's "livability" has increased over my lifetime.


Improvements:
The river no longer freezes over each year so the Spring Floods, once the fear of everyone up and down the river no longer occur.
The river no longer suffers from pollution and won an international competition for the remediation.
The roadways suffer far less from flooding and frost heaves.
Universities have replaced factories and mills as the major regional employers.
Education has improved;
Healthcare has improved in quality and availability since it was nationalized.
Spring, Summer and Fall have extended. Winters are shorter and warmer.
The available social safety-nets have improved.
Median income & wealth have improved.


Neutral:
Skating has moved indoors.
Swimming is replacing skiing and snowshoeing.
Violent crime is still very much a rarity.
Infrastructure has kept up - Mills became townhouses or restaurants. Factories were bulldozed and replaced with medium rise apartments.
The cops are and were friendly & helpful.


Worse:
Tornados have moved northward and are now seen as threatening.
AC is required in the summer.
Watering lawns in "droughts" is sometimes needed.
Fewer songbirds.
Fewer butterflies, insects.

In all this region has so far weathered global warming well.
I'd say that life here presently is better than it was before the weather began changing.
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: July 15, 2019, 01:56:30 AM »

I think Tesla will build more then 500k cars this year. that's amazing!!



I think that you believing that Tesla will build >500k cars this year is amazing!!


Tesla built 164,148 cars in the 1st half of the year.
You now "believe" that they will produce >335,852 cars in the same time frame.
Terry
https://www.statista.com/statistics/715421/tesla-quarterly-vehicle-production/




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Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: July 15, 2019, 12:06:34 AM »

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To a person they all sound like new converts that have found Christ, Krishna - or Amway.
Terry

Terry,
When you’ve taken a test drive, you’ll understand.  :) ;) 8)


When you've listened to a poor relative trying to sell a bar of Amway Body Series G&H Complexion Soap, then you'll understand. :-\
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Electric cars
« on: July 14, 2019, 11:54:52 PM »
Bigger batteries means more pollution and CO2 in the production phase, then an heavier load to carry around, so a higher energy consumption per km.
Most BMW's customers can afford to own an EV and an ICEV.


If I were to consider an EV at some time in the future I'd demand battery chemistry that is safe (LIFePO4 or better), something lighter than a 1958 Buick, and something that wouldn't burn through more electricity than an electrically heated swimming pool.


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Tesla glory/failure
« on: July 14, 2019, 10:51:19 PM »
Sofiaan Fraval (@Sofiaan) 4/26/19, 9:17 AM
I gave 67 rides to strangers in my #Tesla #Model3. About 70% had never been in Tesla. 90% had never had an autopilot demo. 100% enjoyed it! Thank you @elonmusk @Tesla for an amazing car! My passengers and I love it!
< Just helped three fellas out of darkness this afternoon. They test drove and went bananas. All three want to order a Tesla as soon as they can
<< Myself, my girlfriend, and two friends of mine, have all signed up with Uber/Lyft in San Diego. Adding a dozen hours each week just driving around and chatting with people. Even here, where there are thousands of 3's, many people don't know about Tesla.
< I swapped cars with a buddy so I could borrow his truck. “They just gotta get people in these cars! You don’t know what you don’t know! I want one so fucking bad!” And he works for Chrysler!

Wonderful Stories From Sofiaan Fraval About Promoting Tesla Via Lyft & Uber
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/06/08/sofiaan-fraval-has-found-a-new-way-to-promote-tesla-elon-noticed/

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Bo Hi-C (@DBoHi_C) 7/3/19, 8:27 PM
just walked into a mall gallery and hung out for an hour in San Antonio. 2 model X orders in to people who never knew about Tesla. One trading in a Yukon, one trading in an Escalade. Crazy!! Just watched and smirked as they were blown away.
https://twitter.com/dbohi_c/status/1146576336644915200

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Christopher Dungeon (@ChrisDungeon) 7/5/19, 9:02 AM
Gave multiple rides in my @Tesla #Model3 Performance yesterday and was asked multiple times if it's 100% electric...
"So it doesn't take any gas?"
It's interesting to see what the general public knows about #TSLA
https://twitter.com/chrisdungeon/status/1147128557350588417

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Eleanor (@EleanorLetsRide) 6/4/19, 6:46 PM
Guy in an F150 pulled up next to me at a supercharger, and spent the next 20 minutes talking to me about my car. He’s sick of buying gas, and already has solar panels on his house to fuel his future electric car. #Tesla #ElectricFuture #NoMoreGas
https://twitter.com/eleanorletsride/status/1136041638994894851

Earl of Frunkpuppy (@28delayslater) 6/5/19, 7:23 AM
 Had similar experience last week. Guy in red Ford parked next to me when I was getting in car. He said he really wants a Tesla some day and can’t afford it. He’s in market for a new truck and spending 42k. We was shocked to learn the model 3 starting price
https://twitter.com/28delayslater/status/1136232133570285568
- I’m leaving out parts of the story. Like the guy saying “hey can I talk to you about your Tesla” and my wife saying “oh god, you will be here all day”
< I’ve had a few similar experiences. I just converted a self described gear head to TM3 after one test drive in a friends car. He admitted he was afraid to give up his man card before the test drive. They picked up AWD last Friday.
JEEZ
To a person they all sound like new converts that have found Christ, Krishna - or Amway.
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: July 14, 2019, 01:03:31 AM »
oren
Sorry, but every thing I type expresses an emotion I don't feel, or an ideology I don't believe in.


Stay Well
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Prepping for Collapse
« on: July 13, 2019, 07:39:09 PM »
Doesn't the nutritional value of spreadsheets vary considerably depending on the spread?
Terry

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Many years ago, I worked with an old machinist that had a great saying:

"When you back into a chainsaw, does it really matter which tooth hits you first?"


You're going to get a little behind in your work. ::)
Terry

LOL! I knew it was only a matter of time, except I remember it as lens grinder.

 :D
Mine was originally a butcher backing into his meat grinder. :P
Terry


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The rest / Re: The Trump Presidency
« on: July 11, 2019, 11:08:28 PM »
and stopping abortion.

Yeah lets stop abortion of US babies while keep selling bombs to drop on Yemeni cities so their babies die of bad sanitation. Push another country into a war over oil resources because that never hurt a kid ever.

Basically you are supporting post natal abortion.


Perhaps we should ask Madam Albright if the death of 500,000 Iraqi kids was worth it.
Her response was "We think the price is worth it.
While the underlined "We" was understood to include both Clintons as well as the leadership of the DNC.


Kill em in the womb before emotional attachments have been made.
Terry

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Many years ago, I worked with an old machinist that had a great saying:

"When you back into a chainsaw, does it really matter which tooth hits you first?"


You're going to get a little behind in your work. ::)
Terry

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My mom always used "M" to be "1,000 x", as it is a Roman Numeral. 

Ah, the glaciers I don't want to see again, as if I might recognize them.  I grew up with a water color of Lake Louise, but I don't recall if we went there when I was 10.
Perhaps the use of "M" is a generational thing?


The color of the water in Lake Louis, and many other glacier fed lakes is too green to appear real. I've plenty of photos, but would hate to attempt painting it lest every viewer thought I was seeing the world through green hued lenses.  :-\
Terry


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The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: July 10, 2019, 02:10:10 AM »

Ha! You think you have it bad...

I'm in Alberta

Then again, if you're in Ford country,  :( well.. what can I say? :D

Cheers
It's amazing when well educated, relatively affluent people with great "safety nets" in place vote for a jerk that's against all of the advantages that we pride ourselves in having built.


I've yet to run into anyone who admits to having voted for Ford.


Is there a charismatic NDP anywhere on the horizon?
Terry

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The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: July 10, 2019, 01:30:28 AM »

Pragma

If "smug" was the attitude I projected let me apologize. I've found my fellow Canadians as eager to believe in the Evil Ruskies as those south of the border. We'll soon be voting and I've little doubt that the Rabid Conservatives will be back in control.
I'm embarrassed that my countrymen have such short memory spans. It was only 5 years ago that we breathed a huge sigh of relief when we swept Harper's Conservatives from power.
I'll be supporting my local Liberal MP, but the National Leadership has instigated policies, particularly foreign policies that I simply can't abide.
Sorrowfully
Terry


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Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: July 10, 2019, 01:03:20 AM »
Terry,

yes, but nocti-lucent clouds are only producing indirect light after sunset, so hardly a problem for PVs.

I'm more concerned that the water/ice particles that become visible as noctilucent clouds are reflecting some portion of incoming solar radiation away from the globe (and any globally based photo-electric panels) even as they increase global warming because of their GHG blanketing effect.
This I expect occurs whether the clouds are visible or not.

Certain rocket engines/fuels apparently are "dirtier" than others and both the Space Shuttle and Falcon 9 are seen as having contributed to the problem.

Falcon 9 caused "Spectacular noctilucent clouds" after it's Aug 11 2014 launch according to https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/498935052235857921 though why that particular launch was singled out I have no idea.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/topstory/2003/0522shuttleshine.html speaks of noctliucent clouds formed by the Space Shuttle after it detached from it's booster.

The Space Shuttle is mothballed, but if Musk's vision of 20 launchings a year becomes a reality, the resulting damage to our mesosphere might be significant.

Noctilucent cloud over Orlando Fl.
visible 90 minutes after Falcon 9
lifting off.
Terry

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Science / Re: Earthquakes and climate change
« on: July 09, 2019, 11:24:24 PM »
Terry, It is about 250 miles from here to Ridgecrest and it was strong here with roll lasting about twenty seconds. I moved rooms and aligned with the roll. I pointed to the direction of the quake,
and guessed correctly. I can think of three other quakes that seemed of similar strength. I even heard a quake underwater back during my dive career ! Big Boom that I felt right through my whole body.  The other diver and I thought the Navy bombed us but not a boat in sight with clear weather.
Bruce


The Sylmar Quake in '71 was the worst I've experienced. I was in Riverside and a wall with a gas heater was twisting in and out of "S" shapes as flames and sparks escaped the enclosure. My first thought was that my house would burn down, followed closely by thoughts of the fortune I would make repairing broken pipes.


Neither proved to be the case.


The rubber "Band Seals" developed for clay sewer lines proved flexible enough to withstand the strain (though for years later the mis-positioned pipes caused blockages, and toilets could be found with handfuls of sand in the tanks,) while the metal pipes either bent a small amount or popped their retaining clamps.


A Veterans Hospital closer to the epicenter collapsed and a few overpasses crashed down, but the 6:01 AM timing meant that few were on the road.


My Riverside home has since been earthquake hardened, and on the advice of an Air Force damage consultant I dropped my earthquake insurance a few years later.
Sylmar was only rated at 6.5, but with 65 deaths and freeway closures it seemed to cause a fair amount of damage.


I had no idea that you were so close to Ridge Crest. My few trips there were always from and back to Las Vegas.


Hope the oinkers weren't too upset and that there was no damage to house or farm.
Terry  :)

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Policy and solutions / Re: Renewable Energy
« on: July 09, 2019, 09:14:05 PM »
Vox


The solar losses in China seem to be blamed on localized pollution.
Have any studies looked at world wide losses due to increasing noctilucent clouds, or other effects much more difficult to eradicate than pollution and soot?


As temperature deltas between the poles and the equator lower because of global warming will low altitude winds slow down enough to lower the output of wind turbines?


Will the drought/flood cycles we're already experiencing have a marked effect on hydro-electrical installations and maintenance looking forward?


Terry

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The rest / Re: Russia, Russia, Russia
« on: July 09, 2019, 08:47:20 PM »
The fact that so many otherwise intelligent people fell for this Russiagate propaganda (and still do), will never cease to amaze and depress me:

While I agree that it's depressing, the power of modern propaganda no longer surprises or amazes me.


I'd been living in the US for decades when Freedom Fries made their unexpected entrance into the vernacular. News broadcasts overnight became exemplars of Orwell's "hate minutes". If you went hiking for a week and left the radio behind, you returned to a world where France went from an unimportant ally, to a nation of surrender monkeys undeserving of anything other than your utter contempt.


 It was enough to remind me of my own nationality, to recognize once again that America was not a safe country to live in, and to begin planning for my own return to Canada.


Very few stood up to the constant stream of hatred spewing from the media. Intelligence had a moderate dampening effect, educational achievement apparently counted even less.


The few that had clearly seen through Bush's demonization of all things French were suddenly swept up in Hillary's Russiagate. It never occurred to them that the Right's ridiculous disparagement of France was being replayed by the Left as they vilified Putin and all things Russian.


The memes propagated would make Goebbels blush.
Terry

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The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: July 09, 2019, 06:56:02 PM »

Vox

Knowing that our boys will be properly trained for Nuclear Warfare is certainly a great load off my mind.


Or Not
Terry

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 09, 2019, 06:44:43 PM »
Acorns were a staple in So. Nevada, but when pine nuts were harvested the scattered families gathered together, swapped everything from wives to tall tales and held their annual festival. These were living so close to the edge that I'm unsure that taste was of much concern.
No Chiefs, No Shaman, No tribal structure.
Terry

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The rest / Re: Empire - America and the future
« on: July 08, 2019, 05:48:24 PM »
This is the question of why we collectively decided to abolish human rights when it's 'them'.


Probably when we evolved from Homo erectus or when Adam ate the apple. We've always done that, with rare, small exceptions.
Ramen!
 And it probably predates "Handyman".
 We claim that we've evolved past these Base motivations, and while I'm sure that some have taught their children to embrace "The Other", it takes repeated indoctrination on a generational basis to overcome the instinctive urge to do terrible things to "Them".
Can we be taught to hug the stranger's child with the same warmth and intensity we reserve for our own?
Terry

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Greenland and Arctic Circle / Re: The Nares Strait thread
« on: July 08, 2019, 06:25:39 AM »
The weaker northerly current hugs the Greenland side, while the much stronger southerly current stays to the Canadian side. The eddies/whirlpools spin anti-clockwise, all due to the Coriolis Force.
Terry

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Tor
Locally we still get some snow, but the river no longer regularly freezes over.


On the coasts of Labrador the raised beaches stretch hundreds of feet up the headlands which are still rebounding from the the melt of the last ice age.


The Harbor at L'Anse Aux Meadows in Newfoundland has apparently lost 5 meters in depth since the Vikings were there ~1M ago, and the sea is still receding.


The most shocking thing may be the retreat of the Athabasca Glacier between Banff and Jasper. It must have melted back miles since I first saw it some decades ago.
Cheers
Terry

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I'm moderately familiar with where the Quebec-Newfoundland boundary is, (and, in alignment with your plea, plan to retain that familiarity).  The white pixels I see (dare I say I see about 6 now) are definitely within Quebec, along the coast near the Hudson Strait and at the northernmost point of the province.  Except right along the NL border, no place for a glacier to hide, grow or bare grudges (and the grudges belong to the border region).


Tor
Huge apologies Tor.


'Twas another that had driven me to madness by continuously conflating late spring ice lingering in Labrador with permanent glacial growth in Quebec. When you mentioned lingering ice in Quebec I lashed out, and blinded by my rage failed to notice whom I was flailing away at.


Sincerely Sorry for my Error
Contritely Yours
Terry  :-[

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What if robots are infected with religion?

Not possible, as long as AI is actually intelligent.
 ;)


We could hard wire them to become acolytes to the FSM.
They'd chase wenches, talk like pirates, guzzle beer and wear eye patches over their optical sensors.  8)
Ramen
Terry

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Science / Re: Earthquakes and climate change
« on: July 08, 2019, 01:10:52 AM »
There have been 40 aftershocks in the first 14.25 hours of today, Sunday July 7th that rank between 3.0 and 4.3 on the Richter Scale.


kassy
Sea level rise won't be a problem in the High Desert, but there are a number of underground rivers near by, some well mapped, some possibly mythical.
Hot Springs, Warm Springs and a large number of dried lakes indicate that there may still be a volume of water deep beneath the surface.
At the North end of Death Valley, Ubehebe Crater exploded ~1,500 yrs ago when a buried lake interacted with magma. Not long ago in geological time.


Ridgecrest is (in)famous for having more PHDs/populace than any other town in the US since it's a bedroom community for the China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station. Hope they haven't been weaponizing earthquakes (or testing Trumps new nukes deep underground.)  ???


Terry

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The rest / Re: SpaceX
« on: July 07, 2019, 12:22:01 AM »
The sentence I quoted made so little sense logically, but I didn't want to start arguing, certainly not in this thread. But I couldn't just let it stand. So I chose the quick coward's way of throwing in an emoji, "rolls eyes" to be more specific.
Ramen ;)
Terry

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The rest / Re: SpaceX
« on: July 06, 2019, 11:24:01 PM »

For comparison, for 6 years between 2006 and 2013 there was not a single eruption of this geyser.

Is this then proof that AGW ceased during that 6 year period?


If the geyser is reacting to AGW then shouldn't the history of it's eruptions show a steadily increasing number of eruptions over a number of decades?


Couldn't this period of inactivity be used as a very strong argument against your theory?
Terry

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Science / Re: Earthquakes and climate change
« on: July 06, 2019, 10:17:10 PM »
Not sure how to incorporate AGW, but the 7.1 quake in So.California are lighting up the wife's phone as friends and relatives report their experiences from the region.


The 7.1 quake at ~9:20 PM PDT or ~3:20 AM UTC was unusual and is leaving normally unflappable locals hoping this isn't a precursors of "The Big One" that all Californians fear.


Our first phone call was from Apple Valley California after a 6.4 quake on Thursday morning when Carole's niece called to reassure us that all was well. The continuing aftershocks, particularly the 7.1 last night had friends/relatives reporting from Riverside California, Pahrump Nevada and Las Vegas that they were well, but that the continuous aftershocks were straining their nerves.


The epicenter, 11 miles from Ridgecrest is north of the (in)famous San Andreas fault, but quite near Furnace Creek Ranch, site of the world's highest recorded temperature, (56.7 C - 134.1 F on July 10th in 1913, or if that's discarded then at 54.0 C - 129.2 F on June 20, 2013). Last night's temperature there was only 51.0 C or 123.8 at the time of the quake according to the Dark Sky weather site. They're not expected to be up to 53 C (127.4 F) until the later half of next week.


I still don't connect AGW with earthquakes - unless we include isotropic rebound - but if So. California's long overdue "Big One" occurs while the region is experiencing record temperatures, we'll find plenty to argue the case. Furnace Creek Ranch set world records for high monthly temperatures in 2017 and 2018.


Edit: The initial figure of 7.1 has been downgraded to a 6.9, still an outrageously powerful quake.


Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Space colonization
« on: July 06, 2019, 01:55:10 AM »
Terry,
Anyone would think you don't take space colonisation seriously.

Shame on you. Tut, tut.
Au Contraire Mon Frere
But only when done on the correct scale;D
Terry

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Policy and solutions / Re: Space colonization
« on: July 05, 2019, 10:28:09 PM »
After carefully studying the documentary "Earth Girls are Easy" I'ved determined that the scientific breakthrough that will most benefit mankind is the ability to shrink humans.


Once properly sized the problems of sending brave, but tiny humans to Mars colonies shrinks to a manageable size.


Envision a colony capable of housing a million souls that weighs but a few kilograms and fits easily in a size 9 shoebox!


We could start by simply cross breeding Pygmy tribes with members of the Little People of America organization - but this is too slow a process, wouldn't result in the needed size reduction and might retain undesirable traits such as the squeaky voices so prominently featured in films such as the original version of the Wizard of Oz.


CRISPER technology is where we should be looking.


Once we've reduced humans to the size of small kittens we may find that we've genetically engineered our way out of the food, water and housing crises that we're soon to face.


McMansions with 10 square feet of living space will require little heating or cooling. Electric trains and EVs will run off a few "C" cell batteries, and a thin goat could provide sustenance for hundreds.
Christ's feeding the masses a few loafs and fishes will seem wasteful.


Robots will take over all the jobs requiring strength. Our sciences will continue to develop better and smaller micro-technology and micro men. Our problems will shrink away until we will no longer dream of leaving our so recently relatively enlarged home planet.


Are we men, or are we mice. Squeak up boys.
Terry

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The rest / Re: The problem of social media
« on: July 05, 2019, 12:04:41 AM »
He still can't spell.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Worst consequence of AGW
« on: July 04, 2019, 11:57:11 PM »
Mag,
I wrote nothing of death.  Maybe we're not so different after all!


If you think that death is the worst thing that life has to offer - you really haven't lived.
Terry

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The rest / Re: The problem of social media
« on: July 04, 2019, 10:05:59 PM »
Yea - but Milton was attempting to justify Cromwell's well known aversion to truth. ::)


Besides the guy obviously never even took the time to learn how to spell.
Terry :)

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Hey, I can see maybe 4 white pixels in north Quebec at the end.  You quitter, you!  >:( :o ::)


Next season Please notice the boundary between Quebec and Newfoundland & Labrador.
Terry

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Consequences / Re: Worst consequence of AGW
« on: July 04, 2019, 08:58:48 PM »
Greatest fear(s)


Electrical Grid Collapse -> Communication Grid Collapse - Computers Crash -> Idiocracy without Wikipedia -> Transportation Collapse -> Famine -> Governmental Collapse -> Mad Max


I left out the untended Nuclear Power Stations, the unmanned dams & the well armed but unfed police and soldiers. ::)


Terry :(

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The rest / Re: The problem of social media
« on: July 04, 2019, 08:12:59 PM »
Hate speech is a No-No in Canada, and it works out fairly well. In the UK there are very strict civil penalties for slander and libel. I see these as improvements over the free for all "Free Speech" so often results in.
Terry

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Science / Re: Earthquakes and climate change
« on: July 04, 2019, 08:01:45 PM »
Thanks Vox M


Having that island racing along at such velocities reminded me of the good Congressman's fears that Guam might tip over if troop levels were increased. ::)


As long as this island doesn't slip away into enemy hands I don't expect that there will be military intervention. Damn lucky it isn't Diego Garcia making a break for freedom!


Terry 8)


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Consequences / Re: Qué se ficieron ?
« on: July 04, 2019, 06:31:58 PM »
As the US builds it's walls higher, the least those of us outside of them can do is to reinforce the walls and ensure that the gates remain locked - from our side.
Terry

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The rest / Re: Archaeology/Paleontology news
« on: July 03, 2019, 07:43:51 PM »
Nice find Kassy!
Wonder what will be learned.
Terry

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