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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: August 02, 2020, 03:30:38 PM »
Here is the garlic of the year. It should even be enough to be able to plant it next year. It was a good year regarding volume, but the taste was better last year. The early spring was too wet.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 28, 2020, 12:30:11 PM »
The 80% wheat is not totally right. I would say breadable flour.  The definition of bread is also not very clear. A bread with 100% rye flour is very good, but can't be compared with wheat bread. Here is an example https://simplehealthyhomemade.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/walliser-brot-100-swiss-rye-bread/, but there is also a danish version. There is also corn bread...

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 27, 2020, 08:21:52 AM »
Another Covid19 activity with kids. It's not so easy to find something for everyday, and here they get some experiences with handwork.

We hope to sale them on some Christmas-market if there are some this winter.

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Time doesn't seem to be an issue. Maybe it could be interesting to start the trip in October and the arrival would have to be before April otherwise there would be too many heat waves and not enough rain anymore.


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I just tried the game. I found it ok but maybe a little bit monotonous. I don't know the Oregon Trail game so I can't compare, but I would add more survivors, more shops... along the way. Maybe places where it would be possible to work to get some more food, groups that could be joined for a part of the trip, springs where water could be collected.
I died at about 300 miles of Canada, and only met a feral boy. It would be interesting to be able to ask to other survivors how much miles there are to the next supply shop, what happened in their area... if some people survived in Atlanta, there is no reason that everybody left Detroit. Are there no rivers where boats are required to go on the other side...

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 20, 2020, 08:57:37 PM »
Luxembourgish Covid joke. We can get a free Covid test if we have reserved an hotel abroad.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 18, 2020, 07:12:14 AM »
It would be time to make America great again. There is a joke about being able to send people to the moon, but not to produce non dripping tea-pot. I feel a little bit in that situation.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 16, 2020, 10:24:10 PM »
El CID, I don’t believe anyone is immune. I wonder if after a year or two that same FIC prison will have new Covid waves? Local paper headline
https://lompocrecord.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/nearly-all-inmates-at-lompoc-fci-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-most-asymptomatic/article_f3fb06d7-f231-52b3-8f89-f21f11b73974.html

Our local hospitals housed the ICU prison population. No masks and no way to isolate from cell mates.
This is the message I got when trying to follow the link :
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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 16, 2020, 07:57:13 PM »
Luxembourgish data : we are now at 90 cases per week for 100'000 inhabitants

The government is saying that numbers can't be compared internationally because we also test border workers, but they are only 18% of the cases, so we would be at 74 cases per week for 100'000 inhabitants. We have about 200'000 border workers and 626'000 inhabitants.

The government doesn't take any special measure, but the schools started yesterday the summer holidays, so the feeling is that they managed very badly the contamination in the schools and that the summer holidays are the main action against COVID19.

For more graphs https://msan.gouvernement.lu/en/graphiques-evolution.html
When looking at the graphs, you have to read carefully what is represented. Most can't be compared because they are not based on the same data (active cases, total cases, tested people, positive tested people...).

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 15, 2020, 06:56:30 AM »
You could try perennial grain https://landinstitute.org/about-us/

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 13, 2020, 10:07:32 PM »
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The only solution I can see is for them to be less Floridan (Floridian?). And for the Texans to be less Texan.

You are unwilling to see solutions. The solution is simple and is the same everywhere.

For the individual, the solution is distance, hand washing, and if needed, masks.
For society, the solution is to test, track, and isolate.
I'm perfectly willing to see solutions. It's the good people of Florida and Texas that aren't. Do you see a solution to THAT problem? If you do, tell us what it is. If you don't please stop nagging us for one.
The problem comes when the government doesn't make its part of the duty. School is mandatory for kids, and there is no way to go around that. So you just have to send your kids to school and pray (hope would be too optimistic) that they won't get sick. My oldest boy tells me that there would be 8 cases in his school (around 1300 kids, 12 to 20 years old).
Luxembourg is now at 66 cases per week per 100'000 inhabitants, growing everyday since July 1st, growing every week (today's average compared to last week's average) since June 6th.
It creates crazy situation where there is no good way out of it. If you follow the rule, you're in danger, and if you don't follow it, you're out. Maybe it's good to show to the kids that in some cases, it is ok not to follow the rules.
Maybe I am too scared of exponential growth.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 12, 2020, 10:49:20 PM »
In Germany, they also cook bread directly on the fire, rolled around a wood stick. It's a "just for the fun of the kids" activity because most of the time you end up with bread that is burned outside and not cooked inside.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 12, 2020, 05:45:44 PM »
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Assuming the COVID-hype had zero influence on the numbers, it might have to do with general population health, environmental factors, demographics (age, gender, ethnicity).
So the population of NYC is so unhealthy as to have a 5-14 higher death rate than the average/typical population? I guess the same applies to all the locations where total death rates were 0.3%?
Very convenient, but personally I find that hard to believe.
Well, one thing is sure, if air pollution is a risk factor, than NYC was not the place to be.

Bad news for Luxembourg, I wonder if the government will have a panic attack, if they will restrain our mobility or if they will just hope it will go. No chance for our holidays, we are now at 64,37 cases fro 100'000 inhabitants during the last 7 days. The government was hoping that people would go on holiday and that it would limit social contacts in the country, but if we are in lockout, that won't work.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 12, 2020, 11:04:48 AM »
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You can definitely argue that lockdowns cause more harm than good.

Lockdowns are not optional. Lockdowns will happen when hospital services become overwhelmed. What happens to the IFR if hospital services are overwhelmed? It rises to almost match ICU rate. Your cars and malaria argument becomes obsolete by the sheer numbers of this virus without medical services.

It is false to assume that lockdowns are optional. The only real option is when to lockdown.

Sweden managed without a hard lockdown.

Very few things closed: universities and highschools converted to distance teaching; concerts, nightclubs, amusement parks were forced to stop operations; care homes had to exclude visitors. For the rest there was the official "general advice" which many people followed. Most churches did not have Sunday services.

Most restaurants stayed open, but few people went dining out. Hair dressers were open but there were very few weddings this spring.

We pay for this with a covid death rate that is still higher now than in countries like the Netherlands that had a harder lockdown. But I think the Swedish approach is more sustainable: socially, psychologically, culturally, and yes economically.
The question is not if closures are needed, but what needs to be closed. I'm sure that people living in countries with less restrictions learned how to live with the virus. I find the case of Iran very interesting because they have a flat level of infection at about 20 cases per week per 100'000 inhabitants. That would be something acceptable, but the press doesn't speak much of Iran. I wonder how they managed it.

I still believe that what was possible in Sweden in not possible in many other countries. A low density of population is a major advantage. Even if hotspots are in cities, I don't believe that Stockholm and London or Paris have much in common regarding density.

Regarding which policy was the best, I think that it is just too early to conclude anything, but one thing is sure, real scientific information is required if people should learn how to manage it.

Added  1: I believe that a hard lockdowns are the result of a panic attack at the government level. This is generally due to the fact that no actions have been taken in time in order to avoid the catastrophe.

Added 2 : Iran and Israel have a second wave of cases, but also of deaths https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iran/   https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/ In Luxembourg, we only have a second wave of cases. I wonder how it will continue. Also in Sweden. But again, Sweden might have the second wave later because people might be more often outside right now to enjoy the weather. At least when I was there during the summer 5 years ago, we lived mostly outside.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 12, 2020, 07:44:14 AM »
If I look at the Luxembourgish data, the weekly average curve started to grow again around the 6th of June, that's about  10 days after the reopening of the restaurants and elementary schools. Shops and constructions site had been open long before and it didn't have an impact on the number of cases.
We had a long time with a very low increase, and so the government continued to open more activities, increase the number of people who can come together, and for example two weeks ago schools were again with full groups of kids.
This had an impact on the infection rate, but maybe mainly indirect. People felt very safe because so many things were open again and people increased their social contacts without keeping the protective behaviors.
The result is that we are in some kind of lockout. Summer holidays start next Thursday, and we might not be allowed to enter most other countries, which for Luxembourg quite problematic when talking of holidays.
We had a strong lockdown where  protective behavior were not needed, so we never learned it. Maybe a softer version would have been better because people would have got used to wear masks, keep physical distance...

Added : beginning of June, we had mothers' day, the 23rd of June is the National Holiday, and the results of the High School Diplomas are communicated in June, so many reasons to meet and celebrate.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 11, 2020, 11:18:06 PM »
I harvested wheat today doing everything as they did it thousands of years ago!

cca 3 m2 was used. Used a scythe to harvest it, then manually (hitting it with big sticks) thrashed it, not very effectively, lots of wheat was lost. 0,5 kg wheat is the grand result of lots of work :D

We are going to make bread tomorrow with sourdough. I wanted to show my children from sowing to harvesting to making bread how it really happens. They were surprised how much work and how many processes are involved. I think it  could be an interesting schoolproject for all children

You use an oven in the kitchen, or a wood fired oven to make the bread ? One of my uncles he always made bread in a wood fired oven in the garden. No better bread as the one he makes.

if you want to cook the bread in a pan, here is a good recipe https://rasamalaysia.com/naan/ but it is not with sourdough.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 11, 2020, 07:24:59 PM »
I have my first ever bit of harvest :).
Getting half of the (muddy) potatoes ("Frieslander") out resulted in 6Kg. They are all beautiful smooth and ovaloid but most are smallish.  I've left the very small ones behind on the soil.
The other vegetable I've harvested is the "andijvie" (NL) (Cichorium endivia) and I have already eaten from it this morning. Delicious :).
Congratulation. You can also leave the potatoes in the ground and only take out the ones you need for the day. I do it that way, into the soil is the best way to keep it fresh. With salads, I'm not so lucky this year, but kohlrabi are good and green peas are abundant.
Rucola works fine, and nobody wants the salad burnet, even if it is good with cheese. 
Berries were also good this year.
Chamomile works better than expected, I'll have enough of it for the winter.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 09, 2020, 07:23:16 AM »
Basically it's just to cover the soil. So why would plastic not do the job ? Lets assume that i first remove all grass and weeds. Than  i cover it with plastic, some wood or watherver on top of it. After a year i take the wood and the plastic out, and cover it again with compost. And wait another year. Would the plastic not leave less behind than the cardbord ? I have a problem with the idea of bio farming, fungus, bacteria....and than to put some cardbord with glue on it on top of it. I collected some cardboard, and the tick pieces have a visible layer of glue between them. It just looks like a bad start.
If you put plastic on the ground, you're 100% sure that some will remain when you remove it. With cardboard, it will become compost, and the unwanted chemicals that could remain are much less than if you put plastic on the ground and remove it afterwards.

It's what I always say about fair trade products. If you buy them, you can't be 100 % sure that workers got a fair wage, but if you buy normal products, you're 100% sure they don't.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 08, 2020, 06:21:27 PM »
The funny thing is that even in Sweden, there seem to be 2 waves.
Spain seems to be ok, Italy also.

Graphs are from worldometer
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/name of the country/

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 08, 2020, 06:15:41 PM »
A little update of the Luxembourgish data.

We are now at 48.7 new cases per week for 100'000 inhabitants.

We see the beginning of a second wave, but just like in Iran, it doesn't grow very fast, but has a very good stability. Monday is a special day in Luxembourg, there always have been less cases because on Sundays, only emergencies are tested.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 08, 2020, 06:03:35 PM »
I don't know, but I heard for example for cleaning products, that if you exclude the organic ones, the cheapest are the environmentally better because each chemical that is added to make it more efficient increases the price and the pollution. Cheap cardboard is a very basic product, so the glue could be not so problematic. 

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 04, 2020, 09:10:21 PM »
Here, instead of a solar panel, they put an empty soda bottle on the stick, upside down. It would also create vibration each time that the wind blows, which is quite often here.

With frogs and salamanders, insects might not be an issue.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 04, 2020, 08:58:46 AM »
If you look for "rat repellent flowers" on google, you get a list with :

https://bayarealandscapes.info/plants-that-keep-rats-away-garden/
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Plants known to deter rats, mice, and rodents include:

    Marigolds (Rosmarinus officinalis)
    Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis)
    Peppermint (Mentha piperita)
    Lavender (Lavandula)
    Onions (Allium sepa)
    Grape Hyacinth (Muscari asparagaceae)
    Garlic (Allium sativum)
    Daffodils
    Oregano (Origanum vulgare)
    Sage (Salvia officinalis)
    Cayenne
    Black pepper
    Tomatoes

I have most of it in my garden. So that's worth trying. I just wonder if I would plant salads and vegetables that grow on the ground and that are eaten without prior cooking.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 03, 2020, 10:09:46 PM »
Maybe a stupid question. The place where i want to do some gardning is not so far from a small river. And there are rats near the river. When i start to make compost, will that not become like a buffet for the rats ? Or is it just easy for them to find food all the time. There are some gardens with fruits and vegtables anyway. Or should i maybe avoid putting some kind of stuff in the compost. I have been reading about it a little bit, and when they have a good source of food the population can explode fast. I just try to imagine how big the impact could be from a few boxes with compost. Or should i maybe make the boxes closed.
I don't have any experience with rats, but I know that putting cooked things on the compost attract them. I have heard of people putting aviary mesh around and under the compost so that rats and mice couldn't enter. Some flowers are rats repellent, but I never had to inform myself about it.

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The rest / Re: Masks
« on: July 02, 2020, 05:49:11 PM »
Quote from: oren  in COVID 19 on Today at 10:21:22 AM

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IMHO in a room with masked people, I would personally prefer no forced mixing of the air. IMHO a ceiling fan will increase risk rather than decrease it.
I would also suggest if this is to be developed further it should go into a different thread.

I fully agree. Even creating an airflow could be dangerous if some people are at the end of it. I heard that UV lights could help destroy the virus, this might be a better option, but it probably isn't to healthy. Maybe using the fan to pull the air to the ceiling and illuminating the ceiling with UV light.

Increasing the deposit of the virus is a good idea, but there is a need to control where it goes. If the particles go on the ceiling :
1)  there is nobody on it, or in the way to it
2) you could easily put on it some material that increase the surface in order to increase the deposition possibilities and illuminate it with UV lights to kill the viruses.

It seems complicated, but could easily be done for example in a movie theater.

The problem that remains is that you create air flows on the floor, and that you could transmit the virus with that air flow. If you are sitting at the center of the room where the air goes up, you'll have a 100% probability to be infected.

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The forum / Re: Suggestions
« on: July 02, 2020, 02:43:00 PM »
Would it be possible to put all the COVID tread on one single place ? I find it quite problematic to have them in different parts of the forum.

Treads also have to be renamed if the subject changes. There is no reason to talk about air flow in a mask tread.

Thanks,

Etienne

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: July 02, 2020, 01:55:48 PM »
Discussions about vents/air flow etc can be done here:

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3024.msg271432.html#msg271432

Please focus on Covid (also Fauci over Trump)

TIA! Kassy

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 02, 2020, 06:58:08 AM »
Cardboard is just wood that is easy to compost because the fibres are already broken. It will become compost quite fast. It is not going to stop fungus and bacteria.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: July 01, 2020, 08:38:42 PM »
This digging debate is a never ending story. I try not to do it, but there is always a reason to do it. It can be to get the potatoes out of the ground, to remove weeds or roots, to raise the soil around the leaks, to break the clods... I almost never use a spade, but the soil is almost each year mixed on at least 10 centimeters.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: June 28, 2020, 09:00:07 AM »
Hi Nanning,
You should check if there is a transition movement in your area. In Luxembourg, we have traditional community garden, and transition/permaculture ones, and they don't mix well.
A transition community garden might also have a guru who knows better what you should do :-\. It's difficult to find a way and there is no perfect solution.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: June 28, 2020, 08:41:08 AM »
Re: clay

radishes or turnips ?

i hate to say this but dandelions do this to some extent too, the roots easily can go down a foot in clay if you leave em alone. But getting rid of them, now thats a different matter ...

sidd
I have never been able to get eatable radishes, I don't have time for a daily watering, turnips is ok but slugs really love it, but there are many bigger beet like beetroot and chard that are much easier to grow. Also a good idea for beginners.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: June 28, 2020, 12:32:48 AM »
So for the no dig, i put a wooden structure on the gras. And put a layer of compost on top of it. And that should work ?
I'm not sure that the weeds will not come through the compost, some more than others, or you need a really thick layer. It might work in the fall, but in the spring/summer, I really have doubts that it could be enough.

When I open a new area for vegetables, I try to put things that are easy and go enough above the ground (like potatoes, green peas, onions, Brussels sprout...) so that weeds can't put it down.

Double digging a garden depends of the ground you have. My garden only has like 20 cm of good soil, under it I really have clay, so I try not to mix the layers too much. I hope that the roots of the vegetables and the earthworm will improve the soil.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 27, 2020, 06:08:48 PM »
So TLDR: The virus didn't explode earlier because it needed critical mass.

I can't agree with that critical mass explanation. The virus evolves, and one specific change was needed for it to become more contagious.

We have the new numbers for Luxembourg, it's going quite up. The irony is that schools should restart like before COVID 19 this Monday, right now only half of the pupils are coming with a weekly change so that the groups didn't mix. The reason to go forward is that contamination seems to happen mainly during the free time, not at work, while shopping...

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 27, 2020, 03:58:22 PM »
Having the virus around for a longer time doesn't make it less problematic, because some mutation must have happened that makes it much more contagious. The main difference is concerning heard immunity, but antibodies tests don't show much prevalence. The other difference could be political, but I'm not sure that it makes such a difference.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: June 26, 2020, 10:48:10 PM »
There are other materials that are easier to handle than logs to cover the ground, for example straw, wood chips... even cardboard can be used if it is not printed. If mildew is not an issue, many potatoes are a good way to start a garden. Onions, garlic, green peas, tomatoes, zucchini... are also very easy, at least in my garden. The first year, you can't know what will work best, how aggressive slugs will be...

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 26, 2020, 03:26:05 PM »
edit2: Maybe the reason IFR is so low in this subset is because of demographics, local conditions, general population health, even though we are not supposed to look at those things. But still, the difference is really huge large. Of course, the 85% asymptomatic number and fewer children infected are interesting as well.

Well, Covid19 is a sickness where preconditions are important, and I believe that people in Ischgl have a better air and less stress than in Milano or NYC. I tried to find out what kind of Retirement Home there could be in Ischgl, but all information has been removed when searching on https://ischgl.riskommunal.net/

edit 1 : I found it http://www.stjosef-grins.at/, it is not on the territory of Ischgl.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 25, 2020, 10:36:25 PM »
The Covid19 flu ;D is also coming back in Europe.

I think what might make the difference is air conditioned. Most houses don't have it, at least in Luxembourg, north of France, Belgium... so people stay much more outside these days.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 23, 2020, 03:17:01 PM »
Two hair stylists with the coronavirus wore masks. So did their 140 clients. Of those tested, none got sick

https://www.cleveland.com/coronavirus/2020/06/two-hair-stylists-with-the-coronavirus-wore-masks-so-did-their-140-clients-of-those-tested-none-got-sick.html

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CLEVELAND, Ohio — In Missouri, two hair stylists who tested positive for COVID-19 after working in close contact with 140 clients and six coworkers. Local health officials feared it would be the start of a major outbreak.

But it wasn’t.

The reason? Employees and patrons at the Great Clips salon were required to wear masks, health officials said.

Well, there is also this study coming from a country where people wear masks...

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3083394/university-hong-kong-study-finds-eyes-are
University of Hong Kong study finds eyes are ‘important route’ for coronavirus, up to 100 times more infectious than Sars

I wouldn't put too much trusts in masks, it helps a lot, but it doesn't provide a full protection.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: June 21, 2020, 08:01:19 AM »
Nice pictures, but I never heard that removing weeds would disturb the other plants. I think that it might even be the oposite because it would mix the soil and that would be positive. Roots of the weeds decay in the ground and that could also help.
Some weeds, if you don't remove them before they have seeds, can become invasive. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the other gardeners around you would selectively remove some plants.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: June 20, 2020, 12:43:07 PM »
Like I already said, we opened a new area in the garden to plant vegetables. It was end March, so it was a little bit late for al the soil preparation and weeds destruction, so we mainly planted potatoes, zucchinis, onions, tomatoes, green peas, pumpkins. Brussels sprouts and sunflowers. Sunflowers are manly for the birds, I tried to plant beans that would grow on them, but they have been eaten by slugs.

It was the way we used some time during the lockdown.

The result right now is very good, but I'm worried about the mildew. I was expecting the green peas to be faster ripe so that the potatoes would have enough space. We'll see.

 

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 17, 2020, 05:52:36 PM »
I changed my graph with the new cases in Luxembourg. There are still the daily values and the weekly average, but the up/down signal shows if the weekly average is higher or lower that one week  before. In my first version of the graph, the up/down signal was a comparison with the day before. The signal changed on June 6th.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 16, 2020, 05:41:51 PM »
Maybe some of us could PM the members who have quit posting because of the hairiness of this thread and continue discussing covid privately?
Some people who quit posting are still reading and send PM when they feel that they want to react.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 16, 2020, 06:22:03 AM »
I expect a continuous stress due to outbreaks and local quarantines until it becomes uncontrollable in a few weeks/months. Much Softer than prior wave for many reasons, but chances are high we lockdown again... if we can afford it. Perhaps a Sweden way is the way in the second wave cause we just can’t depress economy anymore.

The problem, Neven (and I apologize again) is that people refuses to consume en masse, to travel en masse, etc. even if they are allowed or even with incentive from government. The reality is that this virus screws the lungs, kidneys, cardiovascular systems of a minority, but nobody wants to play lottery when death or a life of complicated health is the winner trophy for 1% to 20% of tickets. Coronavirus panic is dumb but it may save your ass.

The economic domino effect will then ensue and be unstoppable. One year of a potential vaccine is too long.
From what I read, the Swedish model didn't save the economy, just moved the responsibility on the population.
The main problem for me is that we need a peak consumption, it is happening now, and instead of going local,   the consuption left seems to be concentrated on globalized product which doesn't bring any resilience in the system.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 14, 2020, 09:00:37 PM »
Government to people: "What do you mean by 'Government'?".

Texas Has Shifted to an “It’s Your Responsibility” Pandemic Plan

Link >> https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/texas-has-shifted-to-an-its-your-responsibility-pandemic-plan/
I believe that with the end of the lockdown, Europe decided the same. We'll see if the lockdowns come back during the 2nd wave if there is one. Luxembourg allows air travel to and from Sweden with that "It's your responsibility" concept.

If you want to see the list of the destinations by plane starting from Luxembourg :
https://www.lux-airport.lu/passengers-visitors/flights-information/airlines/

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 12, 2020, 09:50:17 PM »
I really want to stop watching this thread, this is not the reason I came to the excellent Neven forum, but unfortunately it does not stop being news.
Covid19 is making us all crazy. At work also, many things don't work like they should because of the safety rules. I also think I should stop reading this thread, but it remains a good place to be informed, so I can't resist and read it every day.
Oren think it is getting political, by which he means that the discussion is difficult, I would say that it is becoming a question of faith. We all believe things and since nothing is clear, each day we have a study saying something different, so everybody can find good arguments for what he believes is true. Even the interview proposed by dnem, which I generally found good, provides information about obesity which has already been demonstrated false. I feel that since we really don't know what the truth is, if you are a scientist with a normal weight, you'll find nice to think that obesity is a risk, just like a non smoker finds smoking a risk, or me living in the countryside find living in town a risk. 
What scares me most is that people feel that it's over. A neighbor asked me how I survived Covid19, and when I told him, I thought there could be a 2nd wave, he was surprised.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: June 03, 2020, 07:48:53 AM »
I think that it's the difference between being inside and outside. So we just have to wait until air conditioning is nice to have and cases might go up again. We might be loosing now an opportunity to go to zero.

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I wonder what will be the importance of Amazon, and generally speaking of Internet orders once Covid19 will be over. Internet is very useful for spare parts and replacement of existing products, including clothes, but for new ones, it still is nice to have a shop to get more information, to try the product... I think it will go back much more than what most people expect, like a little bit higher than what it was before the pandemia. I'm not so happy with the things I have ordered because of the lockdown, and the other things I would have ordered them on Internet anyway.

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Policy and solutions / Re: Lessons from COVID-19
« on: June 01, 2020, 10:24:12 AM »
Maybe it would be easier to limit the size of the companies, but technology makes that people all want the same product, we have the same problem with fashion, most teenagers want the same t-shirt, I was never able to convince my kids to design their t-shirt themselves, and when buying organic cotton ones, they only agree with the plain ones.

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Consequences / Re: COVID-19
« on: May 31, 2020, 10:23:26 PM »
Ok just tell me exactly and precisely, you or somebody who knows, why cutting funds to WHO during this pandemic is madness? What are they enabling? What are they achieving?
Or is this just anti-Trumpism?

Cutting funds of the WHO is neither better nor worse during than before or after the pandemic.

The WHO is the international organization for health issues, just like we have one for meteorology, for telecoms, for childrens, for cultural goods, for tourism, for labor, an international meter comission... if all these organizations are reduced to nothing, it will make international cooperation much more difficult, which is something that Trump might like. I feel that he prefers to talk  with each country separetely, having each time a stronger position, instead of having multilateral relations like with the EU. After WW2, probably until 9/11, the US were the main superpower and could manage all the international organizations like they wanted, and I see this strategy of refusing multilateral work as a sign of weakness.

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Walking the walk / Re: Gardening
« on: May 31, 2020, 03:05:59 PM »
If you have the edible type of lavender, you can make some syrup. The flowers have to be collected when the bees are not  interested anymore. You put it in a pan, add water so that it reaches the level of the flowers, let cook it for 15 minutes and let it stay one more hour.
When that's done, you filter it, keeps the liquid, add the same weigh of sugar and cook it an extra 15 minutes. Afterward you can put it in bottles. When you feel nervous, you can mix some of the syrup with hot water and drink it as a tee.
You can do the same with thyme, but that's for when you have a cold, also to be mixed with hot water.

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