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Re: The Invisible Protest
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2023, 04:30:04 PM »
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who said anything about a general protest? this all or nothing thinking is a logical fallacy. the videos may be a dream for most but for a few they may be inspiration. obviously you're not going to do anything like that but you're not everybody.
Reducing your consumption, no mortgage... is a protest. Maybe not a conscious one, but he says himself that he feels free now that he has quit his job and lives with a lot less. Breaking your chains, even virtual ones, is a protest. Of course in this case, it is not because of AGW, but it still against the consumption society that fuels AGW. Against Apartheid, one of the most efficient action was the boycott.
That guys gives many people ideas, everybody won't go as far, but each person growing some vegetables is helping, even if these are only few tomatoes on the balcony. Once you grow your own vegetables, you know how good they can taste, and you pay more attention at what you buy.
In Europe, you also have communities trying to live together with a low carbon path, for example https://www.prolongomaif.ch/ or https://www.lanzadelvasto.com/en/action/the-ark/

exactly, when i was younger i spent years hitch-hiking around 3 continents, my motto was - if you have more than you can carry on your back you have too much. that doesn't tend to fly for long with most women.  :o

eventually, in our society, one is drawn closer to the industrial fire to set up shop but there are plenty of gradations as to what that means.

their neighbour dave, a carpenter who they bought the 40 acres with (he doesn't have a youtube channel kassy), builds old fashioned furniture for money.

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Re: The Invisible Protest
« Reply #51 on: September 15, 2023, 08:48:57 AM »
Here a new version, this is a reaction to this comment :https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,317.msg381725.html#msg381725
in the "Climate change, the ocean, agriculture, and FOOD" thread.

I hope that people consuming less can afford quality food.

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Re: The Invisible Protest
« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2023, 06:59:01 PM »
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6BH-Rxd-NBo?si=8PG7gT1tsVqogB44" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Just for fun

Sorry, I didn't find out how to publish a video.
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« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2023, 12:20:20 AM »
Just post the regular link (not the embedded one) with no tags.

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Re: The Invisible Protest
« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2023, 08:36:40 PM »
Thanks Oren. I tried but it didn't work.

It's a little bit out of topic, but the radio played it on my way to work yesterday morning, and thought it was a nice song to share.

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Re: The Invisible Protest
« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2023, 07:56:53 AM »
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Primarily, which is very notable and curious, I observe that men of business rarely know the meaning of the word "rich." At least, if they know, they do not in their reasonings allow for the fact, that it is a relative word, implying its opposite "poor" as positively as the word "north" implies its opposite "south." Men nearly always speak and write as if riches were absolute, and it were possible, by following certain scientific precepts, for everybody to be rich. Whereas riches are a power like that of electricity, acting only through inequalities or negations of itself. The force of the guinea you have in your pocket depends wholly on the default of a guinea in your neighbour's pocket. If he did not want it, it would be of no use to you; the degree of power it possesses depends accurately upon the need or desire he has for it, -- and the art of making yourself rich, in the ordinary mercantile economist's sense, is therefore equally and necessarily the art of keeping your neighbour poor.
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Re: The Invisible Protest
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2023, 06:07:23 PM »
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Note, finally, that all effectual advancement towards this true felicity of the human race must be by individual, not public effort. Certain general measures may aid, certain revised laws guide, such advancement; but the measure and law which have first to be determined are those of each man's home. We continually hear it recommended by sagacious people to complaining neighbours (usually less well placed in the world than themselves), that they should "remain content in the station in which Providence has placed them." There are perhaps some circumstances of life in which Providence has no intention that people should be content. Nevertheless, the maxim is on the whole a good one; but it is peculiarly for home use. That your neighbour should, or should not, remain content with his position, is not your business; but it is very much your business to remain content with your own. What is chiefly needed in England at the present day is to show the quantity of pleasure that may be obtained by a consistent, well-administered competence, modest, confessed, and laborious. We need examples of people who, leaving Heaven to decide whether they are to rise in the world, decide for them selves that they will be happy in it, and have resolved to seek-not greater wealth, but simpler pleasure; not higher fortune, but deeper felicity; making the first of possessions, self-possession; and honouring themselves in the harmless pride and calm pursuits of peace.
Of which lowly peace it is written that "justice" and peace have kissed each other;" and that the fruit of justice is " sown in peace of them that make peace;" not "peace-makers" in the common understanding -- reconcilers of quarrels; (though that function also follows on the greater one;) but peace-Creators; Givers of Calm. Which you cannot give, unless you first gain; nor is this gain one which will follow assuredly on any course of business, commonly so called. No form of gain is less probable, business being (as is shown in the language of all nations --polein from pelo, prasis from perao, venire, vendre, and venal, from venio, &c.) essentially restless -- and probably contentious; -- having a raven-like mind to the motion to and fro, as to the carrion food; whereas the olive-feeding and bearing birds look for rest for their feet: thus it is said of Wisdom that she "hath builded her house, and hewn out her seven pillars;" and even when, though apt to wait long at the door-posts, she has to leave her house and go abroad, her paths are peace also.
For us, at all events, her work must begin at the entry of the doors: all true economy is "Law of the house." Strive to make that law strict, simple, generous: waste nothing, and grudge nothing. Care in nowise to make more of money, but care to make much of it; remembering always the great, palpable, inevitable fact -- the rule and root of all economy -- that what one person has, another cannot have; and that every atom of substance, of whatever kind, used or consumed, is so much human life spent; which, if it issue in the saving present life, or gaining more, is well spent, but if not, is either so much life prevented, or so much slain. In all buying, consider, first, what condition of existence you cause in the producers of what you buy; secondly, whether the sum you have paid is just to the producer, and in due proportion, lodged in his hands;(35*) thirdly, to how much clear use, for food, knowledge, or joy, this that you have bought can be put; and fourthly, to whom and in what way it can be most speedily and serviceably distributed: in all dealings whatsoever insisting on entire openness and stern fulfilment; and in all doings, on perfection and loveliness of accomplishment; especially on fineness and purity of all marketable commodity: watching at the same time for all ways of gaining, or teaching, powers of simple pleasure, and of showing oson en asphodelps geg oneiar -- the sum of enjoyment depending not on the quantity of things tasted, but on the vivacity and patience of taste.
And if, on due and honest thought over these things, it seems that the kind of existence to which men are now summoned by every plea of pity and claim of right, may, for some time at least, not be a luxurious one; -- consider whether, even supposing it guiltless, luxury would be desired by any of us, if we saw clearly at our sides the suffering which accompanies it in the world. Luxury is indeed possible in the future -- innocent and exquisite; luxury for all, and by the help of all; but luxury at present can only be enjoyed by the ignorant; the cruelest man living could not sit at his feast, unless he sat blindfold. Raise the veil boldly; face the light; and if, as yet, the light of the eye can only be through tears, and the light of the body through sackcloth, go thou forth weeping, bearing precious seed, until the time come, and the kingdom, when Christ's gift of bread, and bequest of peace, shall be "Unto this last as unto thee"; and when, for earth's severed multitudes of the wicked and the weary, there shall be holier reconciliation than that of the narrow home, and calm economy, where the Wicked cease -- not from trouble, but from troubling -- and the Weary are at rest.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Unto_This_Last_(Ruskin)
It is a quite interesting book, recommended by Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi in a book I was reading.

This was the conclusion, maybe the rest has to be read in order to understand it.
In the War thread, I also quoted the book. https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,3471.msg387063.html#msg387063
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Re: The Invisible Protest
« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2023, 12:57:31 PM »
I published few minutes ago a small article about black Friday and buy nothing day

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/black-friday-buy-nothing-day-etienne-bayenet-eumye

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Black Friday is Buy Nothing Day

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ENG : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buy_Nothing_Day

FR : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journ%C3%A9e_sans_achat

DE : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kauf-nix-Tag

ES : https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%ADa_de_no_comprar_nada

PT : https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dia_Mundial_sem_Compras

Buy Nothing Day is a day of protest against consumerism. In North America, the United Kingdom, Finland and Sweden, Buy Nothing Day is held the day after U.S. Thanksgiving, concurrent with Black Friday[...].

[..]

Beginning in the 1990s, Adbusters readers began engaging in culture jamming activities on Buy Nothing Day. Various gatherings and forms of protest have been used to draw attention to overconsumption.

The current situation faced with new paradigms such as climate change, the ecological crisis or the limits to growth makes it even more important to limit our impact on our one and only planet.


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The concept of invisible protest is that people individually decide to limit their footprint because our world is so beautiful and we want it to stay that way.

Black Friday is a good opportunity to start reducing our consumption. The resources saved can be used effectively to reduce our debts, fund charities, invest in the energy transition, upgrade to higher quality goods or reduce our weekly working hours.

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Some quotes to understand why individual action is so important:

On the Duty of Civil Disobedience, Henry David Thoreau, 1849
original title: Resistance to Civil Government


https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/71/pg71-images.html

We are accustomed to say, that the mass of men are unprepared; but improvement is slow, because the few are not materially wiser or better than the many. It is not so important that many should be as good as you, as that there be some absolute goodness somewhere; for that will leaven the whole lump.

It is not a man’s duty, as a matter of course, to devote himself to the eradication of any, even the most enormous wrong; he may still properly have other concerns to engage him; but it is his duty, at least, to wash his hands of it, and, if he gives it no thought longer, not to give it practically his support. If I devote myself to other pursuits and contemplations, I must first see, at least, that I do not pursue them sitting upon another man’s shoulders. I must get off him first, that he may pursue his contemplations too.

There are thousands who are in opinion opposed to slavery and to the war, who yet in effect do nothing to put an end to them; who, esteeming themselves children of Washington and Franklin, sit down with their hands in their pockets, and say that they know not what to do, and do nothing; who even postpone the question of freedom to the question of free-trade, and quietly read the prices-current along with the latest advices from Mexico, after dinner, and, it may be, fall asleep over them both.

The character of the voters is not staked. I cast my vote, perchance, as I think right; but I am not vitally concerned that that right should prevail. I am willing to leave it to the majority. Its obligation, therefore, never exceeds that of expediency. Even voting for the right is doing nothing for it. It is only expressing to men feebly your desire that it should prevail. A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority.


Unto this last, John Ruskin, 1860

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Unto_This_Last_(Ruskin)

For no human actions ever were intended by the maker of men to be guided by balances of expediency, but by balances of justice. He has therefore rendered all endeavours to determine expediency futile for evermore. No man ever knew, or can know, what will be the ultimate result to himself, or to others, of any given line of conduct. But every man may know, and most of us do know, what is a just and unjust act. And all of us may know also, that the consequences of justice will be ultimately the best possible, both to others and ourselves, though we can neither say what is best, or how it is likely to come to pass.

Note, finally, that all effectual advancement towards this true felicity of the human race must be by individual, not public effort. Certain general measures may aid, certain revised laws guide, such advancement; but the measure and law which have first to be determined are those of each man's home. We continually hear it recommended by sagacious people to complaining neighbours (usually less well placed in the world than themselves), that they should "remain content in the station in which Providence has placed them." There are perhaps some circumstances of life in which Providence has no intention that people should be content. Nevertheless, the maxim is on the whole a good one; but it is peculiarly for home use. That your neighbour should, or should not, remain content with his position, is not your business; but it is very much your business to remain content with your own. What is chiefly needed in England at the present day is to show the quantity of pleasure that may be obtained by a consistent, well-administered competence, modest, confessed, and laborious. We need examples of people who, leaving Heaven to decide whether they are to rise in the world, decide for them selves that they will be happy in it, and have resolved to seek-not greater wealth, but simpler pleasure; not higher fortune, but deeper felicity; making the first of possessions, self-possession; and honouring themselves in the harmless pride and calm pursuits of peace. Of which lowly peace it is written that "justice" and peace have kissed each other;" and that the fruit of justice is " sown in peace of them that make peace;" not "peace-makers" in the common understanding -- reconcilers of quarrels; (though that function also follows on the greater one;) but peace-Creators; Givers of Calm. Which you cannot give, unless you first gain; nor is this gain one which will follow assuredly on any course of business, commonly so called.

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« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2024, 02:22:35 AM »
 Roman Women and the Oppian Law

‘We have not kept our women individually under control, we now dread them collectively’, said Cato the Elder, as Rome’s women took to the streets to protest the unfair lex Oppia.

The women of ancient Rome took to the streets in protest in 195 BC. It was a striking manifestation of their power in what was a rigidly patriarchal society.

The event was the Senate's discussion on the repeal of the lex Oppia, a wartime austerity measure implemented at the height of the Second Punic War in 215 BC. A series of laws were implemented in this period of financial crisis, including those which saw the doubling and tripling of taxes, trust funds borrowed for use by the state and citizens’ private property diverted to public use. The lex Oppia was implemented to severely curb female expenditure on adornment and finery. This law restricted how much gold women were allowed to wear and what they wore; they were no longer permitted to dress in multi-coloured garments, particularly purple. They were also no longer allowed to ride in their carriages within one mile of the city. These restrictions prevented what these women saw as their right to be elegant in appearance. More importantly, however, at a time when women did not enter into the service of the state and rarely into business, these continuing restrictions denied Roman women the opportunity to proclaim their status and identity through the only avenue open to them: personal adornment.

The language of adornment and its symbols were potent and played a key role in differentiating the status of individuals. Adornment could be seen as a weapon of choice for women who sought by some means to empower themselves. In a society where a woman remained dependant and under the control of fathers and husbands, she possessed no assets of her own. Property and money received as gifts or inheritances by the single woman remained under the control of her father and, as a married woman, were absorbed into her husband’s estate. Women, however, could gain a measure of control over their lives by achieving personal recognition and identity through their adornment and dress. Those Roman wives who brought a generous dowry to the marriage could keep the pressure on their husbands to meet the expenses of their previous lifestyle, while other wives may have received a monthly or yearly allowance towards their personal expenditures.

Unlike other wartime measures, the restrictions enforced by the lex Oppia remained in place. The views of the conservative Roman patriarchy may have been that the austerity enforced on females by this particular law was equally desirable during peacetime. The Roman woman believed that, 20 years on, in this time of peace and prosperity, it was unacceptable that this law was still in force. The lex Oppia and the question of its repeal was politically and socially a complex issue. The events that it set in motion on the streets of Rome created a precedent which saw Roman women stand up for their rights and make their voices heard.

Those in the Senate who proposed the repeal of this law raised the question: ‘If an emergency measure passed during wartime should forever be observed then why have we repaid loans advanced by private citizens?’ The answer being that all Roman men have benefitted from the relaxation of these emergency measures. It was argued, however, that it is their wives alone who have not. Unlike men, the Senate was reminded, women have no offices, spoils of war, triumphs or decorations available to them. Their ‘badges of honour’ were elegance and adornment. It is not unreasonable to consider, too, that for those who sought to evoke this law there were other agendas at play; richly adorned women were status markers for their husbands. ‘Would you in your refusal to revoke this law’, the question was put to the Senate, ‘allow the trappings of your own horse to be more splendid than the dress of your wife?’



Opposition to the repeal of the lex Oppia initiated several lines of defence; Cato the Elder lamented the Roman husbands’ lost control over their wives. He warned them that once the law had ceased to set a limit to their wives’ expenditures, they would never be able to set such limits themselves. A woman who could afford to purchase luxuries from her own purse, it was warned, would do so. The woman who could not would beg her poor wretch of a husband until he submitted to her will.

The prospect of the refusal of the repeal generated the most striking manifestation of women’s power. Women’s anger led to an outpouring of disapproval. From the towns and rural areas they streamed into the centre of Rome to make their outrage felt. They crowded into the city in huge numbers, venting their fury, blocking the streets and the approaches to the Forum. Described in the Senate by the opposition as ‘uncontrollable’ and ‘untamed creatures’, the anger of these women emboldened them. Cato called the event ‘an insurrection of women, of panic stricken matrons'. On the streets and street corners they did the unspeakable: they approached and urged men, consuls and officials for their support and votes.

The growing mass of women filling the Forum applied sufficient pressure to cause the opposition to attempt to strike fear into the Senate. The failure to defeat this proposed repeal, it was warned, would result in a success for these women which would see them interfere with other legislation. ‘Might they also’, the opposition threatened, ‘review all the laws set by our forefathers which made our women subject to their husbands? Consider too what might be the situation should this law be evoked, if presently with all these bonds you can still scarcely control them.’

Speeches were delivered for and against the bill. But the protesting women would not allow their voices to be silenced. After the speeches the pressure on the streets was intensified by the demonstration to such a point that the threat of veto was removed. In 195 BC, 20 years after this emergency measure had been passed, the lex Oppia was successfully revoked.

https://www.historytoday.com/history-matters/womens-march-rome