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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #950 on: August 13, 2015, 10:48:30 PM »
Per the following "over-the-top" reporting, get ready for "the Godzilla El Nino":


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/08/13/godzilla-el-nino/31647757/


Extract: "Cue the screaming, the pointing, the badly synced exclamation: It's Godzilla!

The National Weather Service on Thursday said a gathering El Niño weather pattern in the Pacific Ocean could become one of the most powerful on record, bringing once-in-a-generation storms later this year to drought-stricken California.

Bill Patzert, a climatologist with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said the system has the possibility of becoming "the Godzilla El Niño." Its ocean signal, he said, is stronger than in 1997, when the most powerful El Niño on record developed.

"Everything now is going to the right way for El Niño," Patzert told the Los Angeles Times. "If this lives up to its potential, this thing can bring a lot of floods, mudslides and mayhem.""
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #951 on: August 13, 2015, 11:57:53 PM »
See NOAA's announcement issued today (August 13 2015) at the following link:

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.pdf

Extract: "There is a greater than 90% chance that El Niño will continue through Northern Hemisphere winter 2015-16, and around an 85% chance it will last into early spring 2016."
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #952 on: August 14, 2015, 03:51:26 AM »
Per the attached plot issued today by the BoM, the 30-day moving average SOI has drifted down to -19.8:
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #953 on: August 14, 2015, 06:50:19 AM »
The PDO is getting remarkable now. During the 82-83 El Nino there were 18 consecutive months with positive values, the same in 97-98. We now have 19 and increasing, it might continue for another five months. The sea ice surrounding Antarctica is almost down to mean and the Artic sea ice is showing similarities with the years surrounding those two previous large El Nino events. If we have a drop after El Nino as then, the Arctic sea ice might be "Wadham-like" next year... ~1M.

An article from NASA.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=86341&src=eoa-iotd

This is a bit funny:
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When scientists declared in March 2015 that El Niño conditions had developed in the Pacific Ocean, the consensus was that the event was too weak and too late to have much effect on North America.
:-X

A nice video showing the surface height anomaly between January and July from the article above.


And oh, if this El Nino is called Godzilla, what should we call Homo Sapiens? Homo Superbiae Emu?
There was a poll in a newspaper here last month, over 80% thougt it was a crazy idea to phase out diesel and petrol within the next 15-20 years. 5% were unsure...

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #954 on: August 14, 2015, 10:25:00 PM »
We don't have a separate thread for the Blob, do we? So I'll post this here:

The Alaska Ocean Observing System has been getting so many queries about the Blob that it's created a one-stop portal for information, the Alaska "Blob" Tracker.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #955 on: August 15, 2015, 04:27:43 AM »
Per the attached plot issued today by the BoM, the 30-day moving average SOI has drifted down to -19.9:
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #956 on: August 16, 2015, 04:03:19 AM »
The attached plot issued today by the BoM indicates that the 30-day moving average SOI has fluctuated up to -19.4:
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #957 on: August 16, 2015, 02:18:26 PM »
Southeast Australia doesn't seem to be feeling any El Nino effects just yet.  Winter rain and snowfall has been pretty good.  Most snow bunnies I meet seem to think it's one of the best seasons in recent memory. 
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #958 on: August 16, 2015, 05:14:50 PM »
August Nino 34 from ECMWF.
Not one ensemble member below +2.3°C.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #959 on: August 16, 2015, 08:26:36 PM »
Southeast Australia doesn't seem to be feeling any El Nino effects just yet.  Winter rain and snowfall has been pretty good.  Most snow bunnies I meet seem to think it's one of the best seasons in recent memory.
I wonder if the southernmost portions of Australia could be vulnerable to colder moments due to the Antarctic freshwater release (like what's happening in the NATL). So as we warm, paradoxically, it may still get colder than it did previously during winter. Have there been unusually late seasonal snows in Victoria/NSW/Tasmania in recent years?

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #960 on: August 17, 2015, 11:47:39 AM »
Per the following data and attached plot, from the BoM, the 30-day moving average SOI has been below -19 for nine days and is now at -20.2:

20150709,20150807,-19.0
20150710,20150808,-19.8
20150711,20150809,-19.9
20150712,20150810,-19.5
20150713,20150811,-19.6
20150714,20150812,-19.8
20150715,20150813,-19.9
20150716,20150814,-19.4
20150717,20150815,-20.2
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #961 on: August 17, 2015, 04:17:50 PM »
Over the last week, the Niño 3.4 region warmed to 2.0 C, a sign of an inchoate "very strong" El Niño taking root, in my view. It's the first time since February 1998 that this key region has printed an SST anomaly of at least 2.0 C. While I wouldn't say there are serious material differences between last week's 1.9 C read–or even the prior week's 1.7 C–and this week, as El Niño strength is not a step function so to speak, it is symbolic of this event's earnest development into a creature that menaces about with the threat of major consequences. As it is, the 2015 El Niño is still tracking the 1997 event in terms of this rate of eastern-central Pacific warming. I think that we have not begun to see this thing truly flesh out in terms of global climate impacts.

                Nino1+2      Nino3        Nino34        Nino4
 Week          SST SSTA     SST SSTA     SST SSTA     SST SSTA
 08JUL2015     25.2 3.3     27.9 2.1     28.8 1.5     29.9 1.1
 15JUL2015     24.6 2.9     27.9 2.3     28.9 1.7     29.8 1.0
 22JUL2015     23.7 2.3     27.6 2.1     28.8 1.6     29.8 1.0
 29JUL2015     23.9 2.7     27.4 2.1     28.8 1.7     29.7 1.0
 05AUG2015     23.6 2.6     27.6 2.3     28.9 1.9     29.6 0.9
 12AUG2015     22.8 2.0     27.3 2.2     28.9 2.0     29.6 0.9

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #962 on: August 18, 2015, 03:56:55 AM »
Per the attached plot issued today by the BoM, the 30-day moving average SOI has drifted down to -20.3:
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #963 on: August 18, 2015, 04:45:42 AM »
Per Monday's NOAA el nino report, there's over a 90% chance of the el nino persisting through the FJM period.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #964 on: August 18, 2015, 04:02:47 PM »
Per the BoM on August 18 2015:

Extract: "Mature El Niño in the tropical Pacific region
Issued on 18 August 2015
The 2015 El Niño has continued to strengthen over the past fortnight. The ocean and atmosphere are reinforcing each other, with tropical Pacific Ocean temperatures well above El Niño thresholds, consistently weakened trade winds, and a strongly negative Southern Oscillation Index. Strong coupling of the tropical Pacific Ocean and atmosphere is typical of a mature El Niño, and suggests only a small chance of the event finishing before the end of the year.
All international climate models surveyed by the Bureau of Meteorology indicate the tropical Pacific is likely to warm further, peaking later in the year. Typically, El Niño peaks during the late austral spring or early summer, and weakens during late summer to autumn."

Also, the first three images were issued by the BoM today.  The first plot of the BoM's ENSO dial, shows that in their opinion conditions could not be better to support El Nino conditions than now.  The second & third plots show the Nino 3.4 and the IOD though the week ending August 16 2015, respectively, indicating that the Nino 3.4 has moved up to +1.78, while the IOD remains neutral.

The fourth image issued by NOAA today shows that the Eq. Pac. Upper Ocean Heat Anom is once again increasing, after a brief plateau period.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #965 on: August 18, 2015, 04:07:00 PM »
The attached BoM plots for the Nino 1, 2, 3 and 4 indices, respectively, are all for the week ending August 16 2015 and indicate to me that: (a) the current EKW pulse has not yet surfaced off the coast of Ecuador; and (b) another EKW pulse is developing in the Western Pacific ready to move eastward in order to strengthen our currently strong to very strong El Nino event.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #966 on: August 18, 2015, 08:48:18 PM »
A Very Early Yet Highly Accurate Guide to This Coming Winter [in the U.S.]
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There’s a silver lining to all this talk of a super mega record-breaking Godzilla El Niño: The seasonal weather outlooks for this fall and winter will be some of the most accurate ever issued.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/08/18/winter_weather_preview_thanks_to_el_nino_we_know_what_s_coming.html
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #967 on: August 19, 2015, 12:17:12 AM »
Guess who's back? I've been thinking about this forum/thread a lot lately. It may sound funny, but I've missed this forum/thread. Especially, ASLR, Deep Octo, and LMV. I sort of just disappeared without explanation and I've kind of felt bad about that. I started tracking this El Nino in another forum and I've picked up few new tools that we haven't used or discussed here. At least that I can remember. So I wanted to share them. If they have been discussed then I guess this will be an update. ;-)

The 1st attachment shows the ESPI, which precipitation based measure of ENSO. The ESPI is calculated with precipitation anomalies from two areas in the Equatorial Pacific (red boxes) and quantifies the strength of ENSO, in terms of regional rainfall changes. The ESPI 30 day avg is currently at +2.42. The graph is bimonthly and typically runs a few months behind. The black line is one wants to focus on. It's good for determining how well the atmosphere is responding to changes is SSTs. As we know, during El Nino the Walker circulation breaks down or reverses. Enhanced rainfall shifts from the Maritime continent into Central and Eastern equatorial Pacific, and becomes especially abundant near and just east of the Dateline. Rainfall becomes suppressed over the Maritime Continent. This results in negative rainfall anomalies over the Maritime continent and positive rainfall anomalies over the Central and Eastern equatorial Pacific. The stronger this anomalous pattern becomes, the more positive the ESPI becomes. The more positive the ESPI becomes, the stronger the El Nino event.

ESPI: http://trmm.gsfc.nasa.gov/trmm_rain/Events/thirty_day.html

The 2nd attachment shows the show the ESPI overlaid with the Nino 3.4 index. Note that the ESPI can "sometimes" lead the Nino 3.4 index by up to a few months during stronger El Nino events once the ocean and atmosphere have become well coupled.
 
ESPI with Nino 3.4 index overlaid: http://eagle1.umd.edu/GPCP_ICDR/espi.htm

The 3rd attachment shows Carl Schreck's new CFS driven MJO and equatorial wave Hovmoller. It shows a 120 day history and 30 day forecast of 850 hPa zonal wind, the MJO, Equatorial Rossby  waves, Kelvin waves, and the low-frequency background/ENSO signal. It also identifies TC genesis during the last 120 days, which is an especially neat feature as it allows one to really visualize the role that the MJO and other modes of tropical variability play in TC activity. Solid contour lines identify enhanced convection/active phases, while dashed lines identify suppressed convection/inactive phases. Blue shading identifies easterly wind, while red shading identifies westerly wind. We currently have a convectively suppressed ER wave propagating through the Dateline region, which is destructively interfering with the low frequency background/ENSO signal. However, the El Nino base state is strong enough that it's only having a slight impact on enhanced convection and westerly wind/anomalies. A weak convectively active ER wave is projected to move in right behind, which should result in constructive interference and an amplification of westerly winds/anomalies over the Dateline. Note the suppressed convection and easterly wind over the Maritime continent (gray dashed contours and blue shading), and persistent enhanced convection and westerly wind over the Dateline region (solid gray contours and red shading). This is consistent with a strong El Nino and a reversed walker circulation.

Carl Shreck's CFS MJO and equatorial wave Hovmoller: http://monitor.cicsnc.org/mjo/v2/

The 4th attachment is a compassion of OLR during the 1982-83 and 1997-98 El Nino events, with the MJO and the low frequency background overlaid. I shared this analysis in another forum but I wanted to share it here as well. The blue colors show negative OLR/active convection, while the orange and yellows show positive OLR/suppressed convection. The solid red contours identify the active phases of the MJO, while the dotted red contours identify the inactive phases of the MJO. The solid black contours identify active convection associated with the low frequency background/ENSO, while the dotted black contours identify suppressed convection associated with the low frequency background/ENSO. I've also marked the and labeled the equatorial Pacific for easier viewing purposes. Images courtesy Kyle MacRitchie.

With that said... I wanted to point out how the MJO signal essentially disappeared once the ocean-atmosphere coupling became well established (or once the Bjerkins Feedback was well established). That can be seen as solid black contours over the Central-Eastern Pacific, while dotted black contours are over the Maritime Continent (NOTE: The solid black contours over the western Indian Ocean are associated with the Positive IOD, which only enhanced the El Nino state by further suppressing convection over the Maritime Continent). Notice the lack of a coherent MJO signal from Fall of the first year into mid-Spring of the second year for both events. This is common for very strong El Nino events (but not always true for weak to moderate El Nino events). Also, notice how MJO activity was much more enhanced/stronger prior to the 1997-98 event than the 1982-83 event (though at least moderate+ MJO activity was observed prior to the 1982-83 event). The 2015-16 event is more like the 1997-98 event in that aspect. However, the 2015-16 event seems to be evolving at slower pace like the 1982-83 event (at least per SST data which is not shown). Anyway, I suspect that we won't see the MJO again until next year (or at least any moderate-strong MJO activity). The Walker circulation is essentially reversed, thus persistent westerly wind/anomalies will likely continue for the next several months. Atmospheric equatorial waves and TCs close enough to the equatorial will like constructively interfere with the El Nino base state from time to time, resulting in future WWB activity (but I suppose it's certainly possible that weak MJO activity could also contribute). IF we are indeed moving toward a significant El Nino event, we should start to notice WWBs or at least westerly wind anomalies following/pushing the W PAC warm pool eastward across the equatorial Pacific. If all goes according to plan, the W PAC warm pool should enter the E PAC sometime in late Fall/early Winter (as it did in 1997 and presumably other very strong events). NOTE: Using historical W&H MJO index data, I was able to verify that the MJO was indeed weak or absent over the equatorial Pacific during the time-frames mentioned above.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #968 on: August 19, 2015, 03:51:06 AM »
bigB,

Welcome back and thanks for the fresh perspective & information, and as the first attached Albany 5S-5N 850hPa Wind Anom. forecast plot indicates the westerly winds near the International Dateline should remain consistent strong for the next week.

Furthermore, per the following data and the second attached plot issued today by the BoM, the 30-day moving average SOI has remained below -20 for three days now and has drifted down to -20.5:

BoM 30-day Moving Average SOI data:
20150717,20150815,-20.2
20150718,20150816,-20.3
20150719,20150817,-20.5

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #969 on: August 19, 2015, 02:57:43 PM »
bigB has noted that strong El Nino conditions shift the Walker Cell so as to cause drought in the Maritime Continent (e.g. Indonesia), and more rainfall on either side of the Equatorial International Dateline, as is shown in the first attached figure.

However, this is not the only typical shift in worldwide precipitation patterns as indicated by the second and third attached images, by NOAA, for the June-August months and the December to February months, respectively.  It should be remembered, however, that the second & third images only show typical rainfall patterns (note for example that Southeast Australia is current not experiencing a drought) so California is not guaranteed heavy rainfall in Dec to Feb this boreal winter.

Lastly, I note that the equatorial precipitation pattern noted by bigB is typically associated with deep atmospheric convection that increases the double ITCZ activity that can contribute to increases in the magnitude of the Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity, ECS, value as indicated by the middle panel of the fourth image from Andrews Ringberg 2015.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #970 on: August 19, 2015, 04:22:33 PM »
Welcome back bigB, we've missed your thorough analysis.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #971 on: August 19, 2015, 06:39:32 PM »
The BoM has updated some of its graphics today.

The first three attached images provide updates Nino 3.4 Summary Forecasts for September & November 2015 & for January 2016, respectively.  Note that the BoM model forecast is somewhat conservative, while the NASA forecast is extremely bullish (particularly for January 2016).

The fourth image shows the TAO subsurface temperature anom. (from August 17 2015) for the Equatorial Pacific; indicating that very warm water will soon be emerging from the depths offshore of Ecuador.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #972 on: August 19, 2015, 08:41:04 PM »
Welcome back BigB! :D

Does anyone have a map showing the similar situation for August 1997 in terms of SST anomalies? would be interesting to see if the anomalies across the whole Pacific are of similar strength even in the far western Pacific.

Another thing that is very interesting right now is the significant cooling in the far Eastern Pacific. If a very strong El Niño would come, should that be a normal behaviour then? Look at: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/wkxzteq.shtml

In addition, latest CFS/NOAA forecast calls for strong westerlies for the next four weeks. But the negative anomalies in the far Eastern Pacific seems to continue which I suppose should prevent the EKW from surfacing and should continue the drop of SST anomalies in the Niño 1+2 region. See more at: http://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/sweaver/cfs_fcst/

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #973 on: August 19, 2015, 10:13:46 PM »
The following link leads to a video of SSTA maps for the entire 97-98 event



Per James Lovejoy here is a link to a NASA article comparing the measured changes in ocean elevations for the two events through the end of July.

http://climate.nasa.gov/news/2319/
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #974 on: August 19, 2015, 10:14:33 PM »
LMV, here are attached images from OSPO comparing August 16, 1997 with August 17, 2015. Lots of similarities, although 1997 featured far hotter conditions in the far eastern Pacific. Looks as though the cool western Pacific is a standard signal for El Niño, and now we have a much flatter gradient in terms of absolute temperatures across the basin (thus, very weak trade winds.)

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #975 on: August 20, 2015, 12:28:36 AM »
LMV, here are attached images from OSPO comparing August 16, 1997 with August 17, 2015. Lots of similarities, although 1997 featured far hotter conditions in the far eastern Pacific. Looks as though the cool western Pacific is a standard signal for El Niño, and now we have a much flatter gradient in terms of absolute temperatures across the basin (thus, very weak trade winds.)

I think that the current EKW pulse has not yet surfaced off the coast of Ecuador, so I think that August 17 2015 SSTA is not representative of our true condition; I suggest that we wait at least two to three weeks to give the EKW time to surface.

Edit: The attached NASA sea surface elevation maps from July 31 1997 & July 30 2015 show that our current EKW has plenty of energy underwater, it just hasn't surfaced yet.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #976 on: August 20, 2015, 03:32:42 AM »
Per the following data and attached plot issued today by the BoM, the 30-day moving average SOI has been below -20 for four days and is now -20.3:

20150717,20150815,-20.2
20150718,20150816,-20.3
20150719,20150817,-20.5
20150720,20150818,-21.3
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #977 on: August 20, 2015, 06:59:04 AM »

Another thing that is very interesting right now is the significant cooling in the far Eastern Pacific. If a very strong El Niño would come, should that be a normal behaviour then? Look at: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_update/wkxzteq.shtml

In addition, latest CFS/NOAA forecast calls for strong westerlies for the next four weeks. But the negative anomalies in the far Eastern Pacific seems to continue which I suppose should prevent the EKW from surfacing and should continue the drop of SST anomalies in the Niño 1+2 region. See more at: http://origin.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/people/sweaver/cfs_fcst/

//LMV

I suspect the cooling in the far east is partly due to the cooling portion of the Kelvin wave preceeding the current significant warm Kelvin wave in the central Pacific.  And possibly also influenced by a reflected Rossby wave from the strong Kelvin Wave arriving at the American coast in May.  While el ninos typically cause warm water in the far east, and stronger el nino's more so, I think that this warmth is typically a consequence of an el nino, and not an important part of the feedbacks or other processes that maintain an el nino.  A modoki el ninos still acts largely as an el nino despite having cooler water in this region.  Generally in a mature el nino the westerly anomalies are strongest near the dateline with only infrequent development of westerly anomalies in the eatern Pacific (say east of 120W)

If the far east does remain cooler I'd expect it could have implications for impact on the American side of the Pacific, although being an Australian I have less understanding of these.  I think the hoped for rain response in California would rely more on the central Pacific rather than the far east.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #978 on: August 20, 2015, 04:21:04 PM »
I am re-posting (from last year's El Nino thread) the three attached images related to the impact of the 1997-1998 Super El Nino event on the sea temperature and sea level data collected at the tide-station at Fort Point, San Francisco, and temperature reading taken from the Davenport Mooring in Monterey Bay (see the second image for locations).  The first figure clearly shows the impact (including flooding in February 1998) at San Francisco occurred in a series of Kelvin waves (and associated temperature effects) beginning as early as May 1997.  The three attached USGS image of the sea level record at Fort Point, San Francisco from before 1900; which shows the past recorded Super El Nino events of 1915-16, 1940-41, 1957-58, 1982-83, and 1997-98.  The first figure indicates how a series of Kelvin waves can build up a normal El Nino in May into a Super El Nino by January to February of the following year (roughly speaking).  Therefore, I suggest that such pulses of EKWs is characteristic (diagnostic) of a Super El Nino event, and that when the current EKW pulse shown in the fourth image displaces the pool of relatively cool water next to the coast of Ecuador, we will see the Nino 1 & 2 indices surge upwards again, without any need for discussions of Modoki events.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #979 on: August 20, 2015, 07:45:43 PM »
Dec 30, 1997 near the peak of the 97/98 el nino

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #980 on: August 20, 2015, 09:37:52 PM »
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@ggweather: Comparison of #El Nino plume fcst.  Each successive run has gotten stronger and now peaking at an ONI of 2.5. http://t.co/qEIEr7lhCa
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #981 on: August 21, 2015, 03:52:31 AM »
Per the attached plot issued today by the BoM, the 30-day moving average SOI has dropped down to -22.7:
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #982 on: August 21, 2015, 01:20:43 PM »
Comparison of mid May/June/July/August El Nino Dynamic Mean Chart........


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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #983 on: August 22, 2015, 01:10:05 AM »
The first attachment shows the NCEP CFSR global SSTA for August 20th, 1982 and Jan 1st, 1983.

The Second attachment shows the NCEP CFSR global SSTA for August 20th, 1997, and November 26th, 1997.

Just a view of what the 1982-83 and 1997-98 El Nino events looked like at this time, and what they looked like around the time they peaked (at least per this dataset). I suspect that this event will ultimately peak somewhere in between the two. Unfortunately, these maps generally run about a month behind so I wasn't able to provide an image of August 20th, 2015 for comparison.

Here's a link to these SSTA maps (and others), which are daily and go all the way back to Janurary 1st, 1979:

http://cci-reanalyzer.org/Reanalysis_daily/

EDIT: The third attachment shows the mid-August IRI ENSO predictions plume.

IRI ENSO forecast: http://iri.columbia.edu/our-expertise/climate/forecasts/enso/current/
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #984 on: August 22, 2015, 03:32:30 AM »
Per the following data & plot, issued today by the BoM indicates that the 30-day moving average SOI has moved up to -22.2:

20150722,20150820,-22.2
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #985 on: August 22, 2015, 08:28:55 AM »
CFSv2 from yesterday attached, no member below +2.5-2.6°C. The longer averages of the SOI has been stable for a while now, the equatorial SOI showed a drop in July though.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/data/indices/reqsoi.for
There's more heat in the oceans compared to the earlier large events, so I think I'll hold on to my wild ass guess from March for a while. +2.6°C.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #986 on: August 23, 2015, 03:14:04 AM »
The attached image shows tables of monthly values for equatorial Pacific upper ocean heat content anomalies, the 4 Nino indices (per monthly OISST.v2 data), the ESPI, and the SOI for Jan-Jul 1982, 1997, and 2015. This is a simple (but admittedly not foolproof) way to compare the strength of these El Nino events. The only index (of these four) that suggests this event is stronger than the 1997-98 event, is the ESPI (which can sometimes lead the Nino 3.4 index and SOI by a few months or more). Upper ocean heat content anomalies suggest that this event is somewhere in between the 1997-98 and 1982-82 events (like the MEI). The 4 Nino indices (per monthly OISST.v2 data) suggests that this event is currently stronger than 1982-83 El Nino, but not quite as strong as the 1997-98 event. Lastly, the monthly SOI indicates to me that this event is close, but not quite as strong as the 1997-98 or 1982-83 events (this could change in the next month or two). Of course there are other data to consider, and it's still early on. Nonetheless, I strongly believe that the 2015-16 El Nino WILL be one of the strongest on record.

Also, the following abstract comes from the linked paper by Scott Curtis and Robert Adler, which describes the ENSO Precipitation Index (ESPI) in great detail.

Curtis and Adler, 2000, ENSO Indices Based on Patterns of Satellite-Derived Precipitation:

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/249611233_ENSO_Indices_Based_on_Patterns_of_Satellite-Derived_Precipitation

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 In this study, gridded observed precipitation datasets are used to construct rainfall-based ENSO indices. The monthly El Nino and La Nina indices (EI and LI) measure the steepest zonal gradient of precipitation anomalies between the equatorial Pacific and the Maritime Continent. This is accomplished by spatially averaging precipitation anomalies using a spatial boxcar filter, finding the maximum and minimum averages within a Pacific and Maritime Continent domain for each month, and taking differences. The EI and LI can be examined separately or combined to produce one El Nino–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) precipitation index (ESPI). ESPI is well correlated with traditional sea surface temperature (e.g., Nino-3.4) and pressure indices [e.g., Southern Oscillation index (SOI)], leading Nino-3.4 by a month. ESPI has a tendency to produce stronger La Ninas than does Nino 3.4 and SOI. One advantage satellite-derived precipitation indices have over more conventional indices is describing the strength and position of the Walker circulation. Examples are given of tracking the impact of recent ENSO events on the tropical precipitation fields. The 1982/83 and 1997/98 events were unique in that, during the transition from the warm to the cold phase, precipitation patterns associated with El Nino and La Nina were simultaneously strong. According to EI and ESPI, the 1997/98 El Nino was the strongest event over the past 20 years.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #987 on: August 23, 2015, 03:32:35 AM »
Per the attached plot issued today by the BoM, the 30-day moving average SOI has drifted down to -22.3:
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #988 on: August 23, 2015, 05:52:49 AM »
If I haven't miscounted, that's one week with the SOI below -20 now.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #989 on: August 23, 2015, 05:50:25 PM »
If I haven't miscounted, that's one week with the SOI below -20 now.

You have not miscounted:

20150717,20150815,-20.2
20150718,20150816,-20.3
20150719,20150817,-20.5
20150720,20150818,-21.3
20150721,20150819,-22.7
20150722,20150820,-22.2
20150723,20150821,-22.3
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #990 on: August 23, 2015, 06:59:47 PM »
In this post I consider why NASA officials suspect that the 2015-16 El Nino may exceed a super category (in my mind events with maximal Nino 3.4 indices between 2.5 and 3.0) and move into the "Godzilla" category (in my mind event with maximal Nino 3.4 indices between 3.5 and 4.0), see the first image with NASA officially projecting that the Nino 3.4 index could be in the range of 3.8 by January 2016.

First, as others have previously mentioned, we should consider that most other international agencies projections for the Nino 3.4 (again see the first image) are based on calibrations typical of the hiatus period, while now that we are in a period of strong global warming (circa RCP 8.5), positive PDO, negative AMO (which promotes strong El Nino events) and "the blob"/ridiculously resilient ridge in the Northeast Pacific; many other international agencies may need to recalibrate the ENSO model to show more skill in projecting a post-hiatus period with a greater frequency of strong El Nino events.

Second, the second attached image shows NOAA's modeled sea level anomaly for August 16 2015 showing an anomaly on the order of +15cm in the Central Equatorial Pacific; while the third attached image of satellite data processed by NOAA for both late July 1997 and 2015, show measured sea level anomaly values on the order of +27cm on July 30 2015.  Furthermore, the fourth NASA/JPL image of satellite data for sea level anomalies for both early August 1997 and 2015 show the sea level anomalies increasing as they move eastward in the Equatorial Pacific.

This brief review indicates that there are both conceptual and observational reasons to take NASA's warnings of a possible "Godzilla" El Nino in 2015-16 seriously.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #991 on: August 24, 2015, 03:35:57 AM »
Per the attached plot issued by the BoM today, the 30-day moving average SOI has drifted up to -21.9:
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #992 on: August 24, 2015, 03:38:57 PM »
Over the last week, the key Niño 3.4 region warmed to 2.1 C, the strongest since February 1998.

                Nino1+2      Nino3        Nino34        Nino4
 Week          SST SSTA     SST SSTA     SST SSTA     SST SSTA
 15JUL2015     24.6 2.9     27.9 2.3     28.9 1.7     29.8 1.0
 22JUL2015     23.7 2.3     27.6 2.1     28.8 1.6     29.8 1.0
 29JUL2015     23.9 2.7     27.4 2.1     28.8 1.7     29.7 1.0
 05AUG2015     23.6 2.6     27.6 2.3     28.9 1.9     29.6 0.9
 12AUG2015     22.8 2.0     27.3 2.2     28.9 2.0     29.6 0.9
 19AUG2015     22.4 1.7     27.2 2.2     28.9 2.1     29.7 1.1

Attached is the SST anomaly chart for August 24th by OSPO.

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #993 on: August 24, 2015, 05:14:12 PM »
I do not have much time today, so I am posting the four attached images showing that the ocean heat evolution has been different in the 2014 to 2015 than during the 82-83 and 97-98 El Nino events.

The first image from NOAA shows the Evolution of the Eq. Pac. Upper Ocean Heat Anom. through the week centered on August 19 2015.

The second thru the fourth images are from the TAO project (circa August 24 2015) and show different combinations of warm water volume, WWV and SSTA (Nino 3.4), and Depth Averaged Temperature for the indicated parts of the Eq. Pac.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #994 on: August 24, 2015, 07:05:08 PM »
What concerns me is the recent cooling in the Niño 1+2 area which is clearly visible now. The negative anomalies, though small, are close to the surface and, I suppose, prevent the EKW from surfacing completely. We really need a new WWB if there should be any chance to have a "Super el Niño" I think..

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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #995 on: August 24, 2015, 07:33:58 PM »
What concerns me is the recent cooling in the Niño 1+2 area which is clearly visible now. The negative anomalies, though small, are close to the surface and, I suppose, prevent the EKW from surfacing completely. We really need a new WWB if there should be any chance to have a "Super el Niño" I think..

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While not definitive, the attached Tropical Tidbits plot for Nino 1+2 may indicate that the EKW is now surfacing.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #996 on: August 25, 2015, 03:42:43 AM »
Per the attached plot issued today by the BoM indicates that the 30-day moving average SOI has drifted down to -22.0:
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #997 on: August 25, 2015, 04:22:26 PM »
The four attached plots were all issued today by the BoM for the week ending August 23 2015, showing, respectively, the Nino 1, 2, 3 & 4 indices.  This data shows that the trend of the recent decline in the Nino 1 and 2 indices has leveled-off, while the Nino 3 & 4 indices remain relatively strong.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #998 on: August 25, 2015, 04:31:59 PM »
The first two images were issued today by the BoM with data through the week ending August 23 2015 and show the Nino 3.4 (which has moved up to +1.89)and the IOD indices, respectively.

The third & fourth images were issued today by NOAA showing data for August 21 2015 for the modeled Eq. Pac. Subsurface Temp Anoms, and for the modeled Sea Level Anoms, respectively.

Collectively this data indicates to me that conditions are setting-up well for a fourth EKW pulse (with the current third pulse beginning now to reflect off of South America) for our currently strong El Nino event, which (if it occurs) should strengthen this El Nino into the very strong category, particularly if the IOD move from neutral to be above the +0.5 threshold.
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Re: 2015 El Niño?
« Reply #999 on: August 25, 2015, 04:50:45 PM »
These update automatically, so having them near the top of the page may be convenient.




I note the mean peaks of both graphs are higher than they were about a month ago.
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